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MEETING SECTIONS:

Part 1 (Video ID: 82mBBAuXkSs):
- 00:00:07: Meeting Opens: Board Reorganization and New Chairman
- 00:01:17: Circular Driveway Proposal: Walker's Septic System Concerns
- 00:05:31: Proposed Grades, Engineered Plan, Schedule 80 Pipe Discussed
- 00:09:05: Protecting Leach Field: Rocks, Boulders, and Engineer Input
- 00:13:02: Two-Phase Driveway Plan: Regulations, Insurance, and Family Concerns
- 00:16:34: Engineering Solution: Board Approves Driveway with Conditions
- 00:17:06: Executive Session: Non-Union Personnel Negotiations Strategy


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[music] [music] uh President Tom Foron, Dave Dingan, Wanda and myself. Meeting is going to be uh audio and videotaped. Motion to open a meeting. >> Motion. Second. Motion. >> All in favor? >> I. Motion passes.

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Uh we're going to reorganize the board of health. Uh make a motion that Dave Devon be u chairman of the board this for next

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three years. >> I'll second the motion. >> All in favor? >> I motion passes. Make a motion that Mr. Mader is from chairman to member. I'll second a motion. >> All in favor? >> I >> I

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>> motion passes and motion for Mr. Foron to be vice chairman. >> I'll second the motion. >> All in favor? >> I Okay, everything's up to you now, Dave. >> I

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s. >> We have two other things on the agenda. An appointment with Mr. Chad [clears throat] Walker, owner of 661 Main Street. would like to put in a circular driveway over a septic pipe and water line. Review of matters presented.

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Votes may be taken. Presume you're Mr. Walker. >> Yes. >> All right. So, I reviewed this last week. Uh David. >> Yep. Go ahead. >> Um basically, uh

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I see that you want to plant trees in the septic system. That's a no no. Definitely not the least feed, >> okay? Because the roots are going to go into your your your septic system and going to ruin it in no time. Uh the pipe coming through the house into your

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septic, you want to put a drywall over. Uh I don't think that that's really feasible for you to do. Uh the pipe is not deep enough and it's not a schedule 80 pipe and for you to change everything over, I think it'd be foolish on your

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part. And um I just and it's and you're going to be really close to the edge of the septic system according to this plan here. Um I'm not really in favor of it, sir.

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Um it's up to the board. You got two other board members. If they want to let it go, let it go. But you're going to have to change your plumbing around. You're going to have to go sketch your lady a cast iron pipe if you're going to run over the driveway because you never know who's going to

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run over a truck or something or and crush it and then you'll be liable. [snorts] >> Tom, you have your input next. >> No, go ahead. >> Um, he may have two feet of cover, but I'm

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not positive. cuz the pipe >> since you got schedule 40 in here. >> Yeah. Let me start with the copper first. Um I mean it looks like copper pipe out of the the end of the

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pump chamber is 113 give or take. >> We've never allowed a date unless they put a heavy pipe underneath schedule radio. Well, we've allowed it with if you went with schedule 80. >> Yeah. >> While you you uh >> he's going to have to change his plumbing and all >> in case the schedule in concrete

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>> but then that's that's rather going to a schedule 80. I don't like the encasing of a pipe like that because there's an issue, you know. >> Yeah. Schedule 80 stone bing, >> right? You're going to have to take have

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to rip the whole thing out. I mean, wouldn't it better off with the with the stone bedding and the >> I mean, he's got a big He's got a big enough driveway here to go in and out. I I I can't see why he really needs a circular driveway. >> Not that he needs it. He probably would

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prefer it. That's That's a tough corner over there. >> Yeah. Street parking, >> you know. It's a >> Is it talking about the corner from coming in and out >> or in the back near the closest to Main Street? I noticed that it's a little bit from

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that diagram. Um, whereas the house and the the leech field, there's not a lot of space there. >> There's no room in there. >> Trying to figure out >> you're going to be >> I don't know. I I don't think it would be feasible for you to do it. You're going to have problems later on. I'm telling you. >> I've been here long enough to see the

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problems that happens. And Tom has been here a long time, too. And Dave is an engineer and he knows that, you know, I hate to say no, but that's my opinion. Everybody has their opinion. >> Yeah. I'm trying to make the best decision to see how much of this is.

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>> I'm only making a decision for your part. >> Nothing mine. >> I'm not the one that's going to spend the money. I mean, you're going to be probably in cover. >> They got at least 2 ft of cover on that. >> Yeah.

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>> I think if if I I could be convinced if if we were provided with a plan that showed existing grades and Mhm. >> And and the method with what to do with the pipe, you know, exchanging it out with schedule 80 stone, you know, does

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it have proper cover? I mean, it looks like the covers there, but this is a proposed plan. We don't have finished grades. The engineer can also, you know, show us a driveway that will function and not go over the leeching field. The one good thing, Bob, is if

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you have the excess parking, you won't have excess parking. Parking over the leashing field, not knowing they're doing it. That's, you know, because there's plenty of driveway spaces if you're going to have a function. Um, >> most people don't know and most people's

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septic or Yeah. >> I mean, how many people really have parking if you have a function, you know? >> Well, >> they usually park out in the road. >> They're not going to park out on the road over there. >> Whatever. That's right on the corner. >> That's scary out there. That's a >> exit. Just exiting that.

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>> They fly around that corner. >> Dangerous. >> Well, I gave my opinion. So, whatever it's worth, you guys or whatever go with it. I don't care. >> Probably should go back to engineering and have them >> give us some kind of a design that we need to have something,

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>> you know, establish on on a plan. >> Yes. >> To say state, okay. All right. Here's here's the schedule 80 pipe. It's embedded with this with the stone. It's 2 feet. You There's a lot that you're going to have to do to pretty much convince us to

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allow it. >> Yeah. What would be the estimated cost of replacing that pipe with a schedule 80? >> I have no idea. >> You should talk to your engineer about it. Our contractor. It's probably peanuts next to the driveway. >> Oh, okay. Well, I've already trapped it in the driveway. So,

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>> I mean, you know, it's you got to dig it out. You got to hire a contractor. >> Is this gonna be >> You got to take a permit. >> Is it going to be paved? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> And that defines it. You know, >> if you can come back with with a plan from an engineer, >> I think you should come Yeah.

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>> I don't have a problem if somebody's going to stamp it and say, "Okay, yeah, this is good." >> Yeah. >> I don't have an engineer put on paper. >> I mean, the thing is, if he goes with schedule 80, you're better. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. >> I have no problem. That's why we have if we have an engineered plan on record that we can look at and prove.

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>> I want it on record because if you take a truck in there to bring in a load of fill or loom or something, a six wheeler, it'll crush it. >> Oh, crush oil truck just anybody, >> you know, [snorts] the car won't. >> It's going to be done right. That's all. >> Yeah. >> If it's done right,

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>> I I don't I can Yeah, I can approve it if it's done right. Jonathan, what I would want them to do is mark the edge of the septic system. That way, it won't be running over. >> Yeah. >> Like a lolly column in the ground concrete >> design, not redesigned, but

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>> put a couple of boulders. [clears throat] >> Yeah. Whatever. Just that way nobody run over, you know, like if you were to, >> you know, put some Yeah. Put something around the edge. Just tell the engineer like look is when you come around this

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is going to be a tight corner, right? People are going to want to do this and come around, right? So you want to protect this corner and this corner from people not doing like that and >> they'll they'll crush these. >> We're only trying to protect. >> We're only trying to protect you.

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>> Yeah. But if you have somebody driving over the system, you're just destroying your system. You're not going to >> Yeah. These are plastic chambers. They'll just crush. Yeah. So if you I go back to the design engineer,

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>> have him submit >> and have him submit a plan. I think you know if he if he needs direction like what exactly am I doing and I'll just have him send an email to Wanda and I'll reply and we'll give him the direct specific

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direction that we're looking for. >> Okay. Design engineers contract as a partner. Okay. Yep. >> I'm sure you would know also. >> He's not He bought it after it was done. So he didn't hire the engineer, >> right? But he's got it all in his CAD and he can go out there and

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>> Yeah. No, I just met this guy. >> Yeah. Oh, >> yeah. You want to just take that? >> That's right. >> Oh, perfect. Thank you. Just take that. Okay. Yes, he has. It has the job number, I think, on the bottom. >> We're only trying to protect your interest and your propert >> and the trees. >> If they run over your septic and buster,

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well, that's going to be your headache or whoever run. You don't want You don't want to plant any trees within >> No trees >> 20 ft within 20 ft of that leaching field. There might be some spots >> away from away from the the field. A small shrub be okay. I mean I >> Yeah, shrubs on the peripheral, not over

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the top. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Nothing that has big roots that go down. >> Talk to me like you consult with the engineer. He'll he'll advise you and all that stuff. >> Okay. And then he can put it all on paper.

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Okay. Okay. And um you said that of course the driveway closest extending from the near where the front of the house where the porch is and then that way because it is that because that's going to be so much closer to the leech field that would cause some some issues with

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>> like we said put some rocks all along that that le >> some two and three foot stones and people aren't going to go >> and put a jersey barrier in there. Just put some stones maybe like that, you know. Yeah, you can [clears throat] put a little mulch island, make it look nice, but the stones people will see and

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they won't they won't be going over in that direction. >> Whoever puts the driveway and let them put a small asphalt around it. >> Yeah. Put a little row, you know, a hedge, >> put a little picket fence around picket fence >> around each corner and that way you >> if you [clears throat] talk to the

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engine, he'll know he'll know what we're selling, you know, tell trying to tell you, you know. >> Okay. Are there is there an exact amount of number of feet that the edge of the driveway has to be from the perimeter of the leech field as marked on this map? >> Not really.

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>> Okay. >> You just need to protect it. I mean, if you put boulders 2 feet outside the leeching field, then you know outside of that you can put your edge of pavement. >> You going to have the room if he puts it up two feet off the leech field. >> That's why >> you going to have the room between the house and >> that's why he wanted to draw them up

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because we don't we don't have the exact ads built. U you know we don't have it to scale and he has it >> but it's not showing what he wants to do either. So we need we need to see >> we need to see it. >> It's a crude sketch. So >> just have to touch base with that

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>> engineer and have him bring you bring it back to us and we'll we'll see if we can move forward. >> Do we know from this drawing just how big the least field actually is? Do you think this is probably accurate? And then there's the pipe. Yeah, he's got it in his computer, so he's got accurate

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information for you. >> Okay. So, this is kind of Yeah. So, we need a more accurate site plan for that. >> That's accurate. >> Okay. >> That's actually as it was built. >> Okay. >> And he'll have that information. So, >> and he'll let he'll he'll direct you on

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which the best way to go. >> Okay. >> You'll be able to draw something up for the driveway. Design design the driveway field with the protections out if I need it. >> Right. So, the engineer can also tell us exactly how the driveway would be designed. >> You should. Yeah.

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>> Um, if we need to, because I think this is going to take some time to plan, could we do like a two-phase project? Start with just a regular driveway from Main Street to the garage and then connect it later. >> Yeah, that's that was on paper originally. >> Okay, good. That's a That's my backup plan. >> Anyhow, >> yeah.

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>> Yeah, I think that's how it was originally, right? Before they even uh redid the house. >> Yeah, before they put that in. >> Yeah, that's where the driveway went. >> Today. Would [clears throat] any additional parts uh of this of this proposed plan be okay without consulting

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the site engineer for a for a full plan? Um I know over the of the the pipe that's that's going to have to be an engineered crossing. The front of the house might be a challenge. What about a little bit of extension of the driveway along Main Street? Um I can show you

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what I mean by that. What about this part right here? Is that far enough away? Do you think it won't be an issue? Or should I also >> Yeah, if you wanted a pull out area over there to park. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> All right. So, okay. Good job. >> Keep it close to the wall. You're away from the wheeled field. >> As long as you get in touch with the

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engineer, he's going to know exactly where you they'll know what we're talking about. >> Yeah. >> We just want to protect the system. And of course, that pipe that crosses, >> right, >> that's going to have to be changed. That's basically what we what that's what we want to see on Baker. So it's

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pretty much cut and dry. >> Okay. >> I think you I think you'll be all right. >> All right. I mean this section so typically driveways are about 10 ft wide, right? So if I had to make it smaller than that, that could potentially be an issue with the edge of the leech field. Do you think there's any way that would work? >> You got to talk to the engineer. Okay.

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>> Yeah. You're asking us questions. >> You stop making the driveway smaller than 10 ft. Now you're going to be running over the edge all the time. >> 10 foot driveway trying to avoid. Yeah. see what the engineers do for a living. >> All right. >> Anything else like terms of regulations

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like title five that that I have to factor in with this? Um >> if somehow something did go wrong with the septic system, um of course that would that would be on me to fix, right? >> Correct. >> Um at what point would I notify insurance of the modifications? Only

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after when the permit is is given for the project or after it's completed? Well, >> it's a brand new system, so you shouldn't have any issues. >> Yeah. notify anybody. >> Okay. Um, and just as a question, not because I'm, you know, expecting this to happen, just because somebody else in my

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family asked this question. Uh, what happens if something goes wrong with, this is a totally unrelated question. What something goes wrong with the septic system? Um, and the homeowner doesn't do anything to fix it. Is there a town regulation with that? >> You you have to follow that.

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>> That's what I figured. It's a stupid question, but I want I need to answer this for somebody. Okay. Depends on what goes on. >> Is this your home? >> Yes. >> So, who's this? Somebody asking you these crazy questions. >> Oh, my wife's uh in-law. [laughter] >> Okay, that makes sense.

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>> That's not my idea. No, I'm not going to let >> I mean, if it's your home and there's a problem with the system, it's up to you to fix it. >> I just wanted to hear directly. >> Unless they want to your in-laws want to flip the >> I don't think you're going to have any issues for a long time. It's, you know, the system is brand new and that's pretty good area. If the system was put

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in properly, you should be good at many, many years. >> You'd be like me, Grace. >> Okay. So, confident as long as um I follow the what's the acceptable border around the lefield, have the schedule 80 pipe, um the full idea should potentially work.

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>> Yep. But you need to get that done through that engineering course. >> Okay. >> All right. >> All right. I think this answers my questions. >> Very good. Okay. >> Thanks for coming in. >> All right. Thanks. And if your in-laws are worried about it, write a thing up in your deed entitled that if the system

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goes bad, you pay for it. >> You see how fast they shut up. [laughter] >> Thank you very much. >> Okay. >> I'm already telling you the truth, my friend. >> Yeah. Cynthia. >> Okay. >> All right. >> You're all set. We're going to move on to

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>> All right. Not this way or that way. >> Executive session. We're going to go to executive session under master law chapter 3A section 21A2 to conduct strategy sessions in preparation for negotiations with non-union personnel or to conduct collective bargaining

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sessions or contract negotiations with non union personnel staffing and vacancies and the chair so declares and the board will not return to public session at the conclusion of the executive session. This will be a roll call vote. Can I get a motion? Make a

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motion to go to executive session. >> Second. >> Uh, roll call v call. Mr. Foron, >> yes. >> Mr. Maderas, >> yes. >> And I'm a yes. We are now in executive session. Not to return. [music] >> [music]