[Music] evening everyone today is Tuesday February 11th 2025 is 600 p.m. this is a joint meeting between the board of Selectmen the golf management committee
and the golf facilities exploratory committee is there a motion to call the board of selecting meeting to order so second all those in favor hi uh Mr Flynn if you could call the golf management committee to order a motion to open the golf management committee I'll make the
motion second faor Rose can you please call the exploratory comme yes sir is there a motion to open the golf facilities exploratory committee motion all in favor right we now in
Open Session uh please rise for the pledge of I pledge flag unit States stand right everyone um this should be a brief meeting but we do have some decent stuff to get through here um what I'd
like to do first is just do some simple introduction questions for everybody I'm sure we've all talked in the past but not all of us have met face to face uh we'll start with this when we get to the um golf facilities exploratory committee if you could each talk a little bit about yourself and uh what interest
you're in being on the committee and then we'll move through the agenda uh so we have Mr Kelly here the Town Administrator I'm Bob hinley chairman of the board selectman selectman Kevin Gas David board select John Ro facilities committee uh
school teacher in aush almost 30 years taught Technology and Engineering and have done various uh the energy committee and we also I sat on the uh School renovation project for three years that was an interesting
two three years of my life I look forward to being on this committee it seems like this is going to be a not a a lot of fun and interesting that pull this all together and do something good for the town uh Dave D Ro I live in the North End of kushed by
Ash's peaches U commercial photographer by trade architectural photographer Boston also on our South Coast Community homes which is an over 55 U manufactor home community in the vetan uh served on the
board for one term got experience there working directly with involed committee for numerous projects that we had over those years and I really look forward to putting some together to expand the course and uh bring it up to the next
level Jeff fan uh my love off n Lane right over there uh owner operator of a cush construction uh lifelong cushion resident uh Le long golfer always at uh River Valley and looking forward to uh
doing something good for the town I'm ad Maris um I've lived in my whole life uh I uh worked at a golf course uh throughout college for um and even before College uh so I know I kind of bring some knowledge of just like Pro
Shop uh you know facilities uh type stuff through that um and uh I play golf so you know I'm at the course a lot that's primar where I play is uh chrush River Valley so uh just excited to kind of try to see what we can do uh to improve the
course Doug Corgan a local electrician here in town um parttime wiring inspector here and involved with many building projects throughout the area and uh we're going to get a clubh house pills I'm Dave Glen I'm the chairman of
the golf management committee and I'm just happy that everybody is showing this interest in this project that I've wanted for a while now on the committee myself so GL everyone's here I'm Adam Pei this is actually I was appointed to the golf Committee just a couple of weeks ago so this is my first meeting but uh I was the head golf
professional Christ River Valley from 2007 through 2013 2013 so uh I was in that double wi trailer for uh six seasons and I'm happy that uh we're making the right steps to get a
clubhouse Neil Downing uh newly appointed to the golf committee live on up Green Drive right next to the course always at the course um my son plays there we I help coach PJ Junior leag um
public addressor by trade it used to be a building way Lasser long time resident Kush I was a former uh building contractor in town built several houses in town I currently uh do insurance
claims uh mainly property claims property damage things like that I also uh two years ago was the project manager for Dana Farms when they did their their uh total rebuilding sighting and like
that uh Aid goer played day one in the Christ when had the residence day really looking forward for them to get hopefully get a nice profile some so there John ABY I'm on the golf committee
uh I was a coach at Old Colony for golf for 28 years so uh been out on that course for a long time a couple state championships under your right here and there uh but yeah it's about time this comes upon my name is Rich depra um I've been in
the golf industry for nearly 35 years I've been working at a cusher company since 1995 and a variety of uh spaces started a manufacturing and then I've uh matriculated through the research and development group I managed the test
facility here in aush on Manchester Lane I have experienced managing golf courses I was the president of reservation golf for four years and I was on the greens committee for 2 years prior to that um I'm reading through some of these notes and I see the talk about the pandemic
and navigating our time through the pandemic was a very difficult chore for us and I'm pretty proud of the team that I had that reservation and I think learning from those those experiences I think I can help with this team and I'm looking forward to any opportunity I can provide my experience
with all right uh gentlemen I am going to take this SL slly out of order just so I can bring your attention to anybody that's not familiar with the Massachusetts opening meeting laws um everybody that had just got a packet has
a mass open meeting law guideline uh essentially there's a lot of rules and regulations when it comes to discussing Town business outside of an open meeting so if you're ever in a situation where in this particular case the golf facilities
exploratory committee happen to have four people in the same room and you're talking about golf technically that's a violation of Mass open meeting law unless you declare a meeting it's pretty important to pay attention to you get used to it really quick uh but
definitely take care of it and also if you haven't make sure you see the Town Clerk and know you've all been sworn in but make sure you talk to her about any ethics tests that are required for any appointed or elected officials um P super helpful any questions you have
involving Mass open meeting ethics or any of the above Pam we'll have the answer on the spot or at least get you the answer as soon as possible uh for charge of Duties I'm actually going to pass this off to S Warner uh because he had a big hand in putting this together if you don't mind
sure um thanks Bob and thank you all for being here and doing this I think you know to to take on a project of this magnitude that's going to get a lot of scrutiny from the taxpayer and people at town meeting um to have you and step up
and provide your level of expertise to our golf management committee and to the board of Selectmen I think is just incredible just hearing the backgrounds of all of you I mean we're really fortunate to have this uh you know breath of experience you I you know between Dave sitting on the board of
selectman understanding those Dynamics in the the constituents you know Jeff fan yes he's a contractor but his family puts on one of the biggest tournaments at a Christian River Valley so he's got that perspective you know which just you I think he was being humble oversaw the
construction of a uh multi-million dollar project on Mansfield U on Manchester Lane right so every one of you will have something to offer U which I think is really exciting could the three of us have done this probably could the golf management committee have
done it probably but to have this level of brain power in the room and ultimately go to town meeting to be the Evangelist for this project I think it's going to be something special that this town probably hasn't seen on a project like this so hats off to you um I know
Mr Gasper will get into the finances but just again it's to work in conjunction with the golf management committee they're here to support um to help you uh you know I think we talked about maybe John abere serving as the ex officio chair and just so you understand
the reason why and I think you know those of you who served on Town boards to have three levels of being vetted before we get to town meeting is really important right so if we have this exploratory committee made up of multiple members of the golf
management committee they're essentially voting on something twice that they've already been part of right so we want the exploratory committee to come up with recommendations that make its way back to the the golf management committee who ultimately make a recommendation to the board of Selectmen
and then we go to town meeting with a project our role really is not to get into like What size windows or doors or any of that kind of stuff we're the fiduciary you know we have the fiduciary responsibility of making sure that the project is something that we can afford
it's something that fits with the overall budget and so on and so forth so that's the role of the board of Selectmen um you know we want to make we want to be mindful of that the project fits the character of the golf course
and it's inviting um you know there been different theories oh jeez we should have something we should have a wedding at or it's just a place to go and you know check in and make sure it's a basic facility had great ideas about maximizing the outside space with the
Pavilion along those lines I think you guys will come up with some good recommendations there um and that we ask that you work quickly and diligently we've got a town meeting in June so ideally we'd love to go to to town meeting for there to get funding but if
it does we don't want to rush it but we also um if we can make that deadline great if not we'll go to November you know we'll go to a fall town meeting but as you know the sooner we can get shovels in the ground and and get this thing moving um it's it's it's for our
benefit um I think that's pretty much it I Mr Gasper has some things he wants to talk about regarding the budget as well I don't know if it's thinkk you selecting one I don't know if it's so much about the budget I mean we know what we have for the golf management committee the board of Selectmen the we
know what we have in reserves we know that we don't want to overextend ourselves we've uh the town of aush board of selectman fincom golf management um um committee most importantly golf management committee we've always made a commitment to the taxpayers at this golf course would
never cause the taxpayers a die we we're on the brink of fulfilling that obligation longterm 27 years of bonding for that we extended it back before extended it back somewhere in the 201 15 16 error to lower the principal and
interest because golf was on the decline and we were paying roughly $550,000 in then principal and interest so we rebounded and we extended that out for another seven years dropping that by almost a quarter of a million dollars to make sure we kept that charge in place and we never put that back on the
taxpayers then we are literally within a 2-year time frame or less of paying that Bond off so kudos to the golf management committee The Bard of selectman finc all the boorder of Selectmen that have been throughout that term of the 23 25 years that have gone by um kudos to all of us
folks right we've always said you know when the golf course is paid off we can buy a cruiser for a police department in which building we sit in today when the golf course is paid off maybe we can buy an ambulance for the town's people right for the firing Ms um we we don't want to lose sight of being able to do something
nice like that to give back to the community so we would we just ask that we keep it within the budget within a certain amount of money we don't I don't think we're here to tell you what that amount of money is I think the golf management committee has a pretty good site on what that needs to be but you
know I've talked about being creative and how we can probably pay off a pretty good chunk of this in roughly three years and then start turning a profit um from this new clubhouse that we're going to build and that's that's really my objective is to make sure that the town can turn over that principle and
interest in a short period of time and start turnning a profit to generate more profits out of that golf club house so that we can start doing things nice for the community I buying a police cruises a fire engine maybe an ambulance whatever it may be at the time of need right um we can do that
with a pretty decent budget in place because we have a decent Reserve what we would call the golf Enterprise stabilization of c um so we we got a good Surplus there that we could put good down payment on um and then with the profits that we make in currently of long as golf stays on the directory
we're on um there's no reason why we can't pay this off and I would I don't know if it's going to be three years but 5 years by certain 5 years we can definitely turn this around and pay it off and start turning profits real profits um I I gave a speech I think it was the golf
committee got back in 2012 or 13 with just a food and beverage line item we were generating call a buck 35 whatever it was for food andage and I kind of joke that that's not even a bottle of water per round of golf and that's when we were only doing roughly 29,000 rounds of golf right and I said if we get that
up to $10 per round of golf we could generate an additional $200,000 a year that was well over a decade ago think about that number that's $2 million just on food and beverage line item right so we can do this we really can but we all just need to be mindful of what we're actually here set off to do build
something that fits in as SEL woman says into the traditional the Ral character of our town not doing something too big we know right now we're currently running 14500 ft in that double wide trailer thing that we have there that's lasted
20 some odd years is Let's Not Be fold that should have been replaced a minimum 5 years ago okay that's why we're all here in this room now you have a commitment from the board of Selectmen the full Board of this of the selectman to get this project done and get it off the ground and get something built so we
can have something nice to give back to the people of this town and that's the main objective so keeping in mind we don't want a mcmansion but we need something bigger than what we have today right and that's roughly 14,500 ft I think it's somewhere 60 by 24 25
I think by 24 yeah right somewhere around here so that put is just just over, 1400 ft if that if that worked for 20 years right we've outgrown it no no doubt about it does it fit what we really need no but back then we did what we needed to do to build the golf course and give the people a place to go and
golf we're in a different era now so let's build something that's accomodative and that'll last another 25 50 years right um a decent place for everybody to go relax and enjoy and socialize not just golfers but people like myself I've said said before on camera I'll say it again to everybody
right I might not be a golfer but I do go out and I I have my share of going out to eat to have a few drinks with family and friends what better place to do it than our golf club house right we can instead of going somewhere else once in a while on a nice summer night we can go out there meet up our family and friends that are out there golfing after
they're done hey what time you getting on 5:30 6:00 all right we'll all meet up there right that's more money in the kitty from people that aren't golfing so it there ways to make a lot of money for the town and I I think that's what all you have as a vision is to get this done and have something really nice that we
can all appreciate and enjoy for years to come decades to come quite honestly and pass it on to our next Generation so absolutely I will say this I will talk with the Building Commissioner but under our current bylaws I got to see what the ins and outs are but under the current bylaws I think the commercial building
in in that residential zoning the maximum can be is 3,000 square ft so just keep that in mind as well we I will have a conversation with Bill and inspected if anything changes that I might not be aware of that we can get away with but I do know when the New England Farms was being built in the
center of town they had three lots they put together and the maximum was 3,000 they went to zoning board of appeals and got an additional 600 which is a 20% variance I was instrumental in getting New England Farms done I hope that I can be along with everybody else's help here we can all be instrumental in getting
this club house built and and do it at a reasonable price thank you Mr chairman Mr War um just to jump back into the third item on this agenda uh new committee you have to set up your structure you have to pick a
chair Vice chair um what I would suggest is anybody with board experience start at least sitting down with Mr Kelly and setting up your first meeting um once you get that done you can have a meeting vote on who's chair who's Vice chair and
you can start really putting some agenda items um but just remember if you're not in the quum you can go around you can ask questions you can talk to Residents you can find out what people were really looking for keep that all in the back of your mind as you go through and Mr
Gasper he's going to speak to the building in inspector so once we find out what our Max is and how far we can push it um you can really hunker down stay in constant communication with the golf committee and really focus on making sure everybody's on the same page
and if you have any questions as always most people know how to reach me in this room along with anybody else on the board and Mr Kelly is usually always available so just put the pedal down and we'll come up with a plan and make it happen I would just you know maybe
suggest for the first couple meetings maybe with with Dave Flynn and John do a couple joint meetings of the golf management committee and the facilities Committee just to kind of get it up and real stand it up give the history the
background bring Dana and Steve and then eventually just break off and let them let them cook and do their work so that would be myice especially bringing the architect in the first time we can all meet together and deal with that and that's the thing too if you know if the facilities committee feels it you want to bring in the golf management
committee John that's you know that's why we wanted a representative if you feel that you're going to bring the the full group in at some point for some you know historical perspective uh that's fine too um but really that's the role of the ex official is to help guide and
be that bridge from the facilities committee to the management committee you mention that you wanted to go to the town meeting at June that's not a lot of time from now till then how often can we meet can meet us you can meet every day if you want okay you need 48 hours
notice to post a meeting so if you're meeting as a full board you need to the cler no 48 hours of Advance and we can you know initially you can work with the selectman's office with Sydney to do that so that's why I think it would be really good as Kevin and Bob said you
know like maybe get things moving you know David Ro was the chair of the board select me can do that or you figure out to help get that moving or whatever um if you look I mean if we so we were out there with closing the warrant Mr Kelly what are we closing the warrant so L
March or an article the board of Select and can kind of push that because we're the board of selected right we could push an article pretty pretty late June 2nd I think is town meeting so you're talking publish May yeah somewhere like the second week of May we got to go to
publish so we would have to have everything kind of done for like May 1st to give you a better deadline look if that can't be done we get November if that if that can't be done then we push we go to the fall Whatever Whatever It Takes I'm just thinking that you know there's a lot to do in this correctly
and that's not a lot of time to doing it right and you guys really want this done right I just think 5 6 months is going to be a tall order I agree with that there's other issues where you know to try to get all these guys together so many times in that short period of time but you're all you're all volunteers we
understand that right we're we're almost all volunteers right I mean we we we do get paid a small s and be bought a selectman but I can tell you right now that that ain't the reason why any of us three do that job right because I can tell you right now I do it for free right it doesn't really but we're all
volunteers so and we all have schedules we all have family lives and things like that vacations and anything else it was it was just something that we said if if the May 1st deadline doesn't work don't sweat it whatever it takes you know I think the biggest point is is what you
said Mr deado let's get this right right and that's that's what's more important is to demonstrate to the people of this community that these the folks that are in this room we got our act together and and we're going to sell you a great product and we're going to turn that product around and make it profitable for all the people of this community
right that's that's really what this is all about so so and and I think they mentioned Mr W mentioned something earlier on I think is important um I'm not going to get into what everything that we would want to see in a golf Clubhouse but he did make a comment that kind of resonates with me is an outdoor
space right is something with a deck and a covering an outdoor space would be nice so just keep that in mind when you're thinking about this building outdoor space matters right a nice deck area you know I'm not talking about something that accommodates 15 or 20 people you're talking about something a
deck area with seating and that might do I don't know 50 60 people whatever it may be that's comfortable right and we'll leave it to golf management because we got a as you all most of you know that I've golfed out there we got a tent that's out there that's pretty big size tent depending on
where they have thinking about placing that new Clubhouse and relationship to where this one is if we do things right and we have a big enough outdoor area maybe we don't need that tent maybe we doing it's a smaller tent but trying to incorporate that into your design features as well where you would walk
out that back door the decking would be on each side you come out and the tent can be right there so you're not going out into the pouring rain I've been out there with the leagues not leagues uh the tournaments the big groups 150 people and it kind of sucks when you walk in from the clubhous through the
clubhouse and you're walking at 15 20 ft to get underneath of the tent you can get pretty wet right on a real really bad saturated day so just keep all those little features in mind and try to incorporate all of that into your designs and hopefully we'll come up with something great a great product in the end I'm pretty sure we will based on the
faces that I'm looking at the experience level some of you folks have I have no doubt this is going to be a great absolutely Mr Flynn who is the architectural firm that was hired or have they been have they signed signed a contract with the firm
that the golf management committee unanimously selected first ranked first it's called a catalyst Catalyst architecture and Interiors of West B okay yor West cor as I was saying just briefly before the meeting know they've given me their
um their estimated cost to do the project I wanted to make sure that it was with within the ballpark from work I've done at work I thought it was but I actually called the second ranked firm and just asked them to give me a ballpark price they were actually $2,000 higher than what C estimat so that tells that they are right in ballpack what job
should be you know just put it out there they're looking at probably 35 to $40,000 to get us completely through this first phase he did say some of services are optional as well depending on how much detail we may or may not want on some of the things that they propos they do a project like this so
it's kind of like all car when you get to the bottom of like do you want detailed 3D renderings at this point in time we don't you and things like that cost them time and money I mean we don't need 3D rendering maybe we do but either said those things we don't have to commit to in the beginning you can do that as we're going through it that's
very good than anything that Kevin you're right anything that requires expenditure of funds go through the management committee and then to the board of Select them I think I think it's important that maybe the exploratory committee before
we stop looking at signatures and putting signatures on the golf advisory committee is going to have their opinion on it I think maybe we need to share that information in your one of your first meetings you have is a joint meeting with the exploratory commit share that with them right because they might want to have input on that as well
I mean they're going to be just helping design and give input on what is what features are needed in this Clubhouse so we kind of need the exploratory commune to be looking that over and saying well we we will need this somebody like Mr DEA that has a deep knowledge on it he
might see things on it that other people might not see right he's been he's been it's not his first rodio right so it might be good to share that with the exploratory committee prior to a joint meeting saying here is some of the information this and let them come in get a joint meeting and say I think we
do need this and maybe our ideas are aligned and maybe they're not and the reasons why the exploratory committee members might be seeing even differently than the golf management committee get some rationale what is what's the explanation behind that why do we need that right if they can convince golf management committee put it in there and
that price will then come to the board of Select for us to review and approve ultimately I think we have a real opportunity here to do something extremely awesome and extremely right um with that being said does anybody have any questions on the charge of this
committee to the next meeting you guys we're out now we just did this kind of as a you know introduction thing and get everybody together and things but you guys kind of just go off we don't want to say too much where the board
select ultimately the decisions are but you guys just go do your thing come back with something that's reasonable that you know you can sell of water Selectmen and the town's people of this town and hopefully we can give it to Kumbaya and say let's let's do this let's go get it technically we can adjourn and if you
guys you guys are still in session you guys can ask questions of each other and you know talk that stuff through um I think right or um and then and just one more comment you cannot if four of you on the exploratory committee are
together you cannot just take Liberty and say we're going to declare this a meeting and start gossiping about golf stuff okay you have to post the meeting there's open meeting law requirements in CTI you have to post the meeting 48 hours is going to be posted on the town's website Town Clerk and all that
you can't four you can't get together having a Bea together and say let's just declare this as a meeting and let's start talking you know discussion about the what we think in the building and coming to conclusions because that is a violation of the open right you're not suppos if there's two
or three of you have at it if there's for you you're a quorum you cannot do that it's a violation of the open meaning law that is a quorum for out a seven right just keeping you guys all safe it's our job to watch over and make sure everybody's just doing things legit and we keep everybody out of trouble
just in case anybody doesn't know what a quorum is it's a majority body of the appointed committee read it very important and I also believe that we can't do a Serial conversation as they call it like John talks to me I talk to
Jeff talks to Adam talks to Doug about you can't have more than a chain of three people especially email I was just going to say if you all get your email addresses and you all see oh look it I got everybody's email address J D Ro
sends something out and says I think the stairs out of be purple three of you can't go I agree you've come to a conclusion that's a violation of the open meaning law so you're better off whoever's going to be the chairman Sydney knows the rules I tght her that very early on when you're sending out
memos email to the board always put please do not respond not to violate the open meaning law right if all of us going to be on it for an emergency right you just don't respond correct right you can email each other as individuals all you want Y how the he day if anybody
does have any process questions or any questions regarding how a committee Works come into the office Town Hall talk to Jamie if Jamie's not in Syd or Tanya will be at the desk they know it pretty well um back of their hands I
would say and if and if not then the Town Clerk and if not the town clerk or you can reach out to any of us simple as that you know we're here to help where here is support and we leave it to you leave it to you guys to come up with a beautiful
product should be easy all that for under $10,000 so let's get to work everybody everybody good everybody feel comfortable y oh is there a motion toour so move second all those in favor
Lu guys thank you thank you the other two committees make sure when you are leaving you do officially have a vote to adour see you sorry is it necessary to
my persp I feel I'll be honest with you a quarter of it I left in theide took a b us looked at techology that's not a big Club of when Club comes
see get we [Music] our other thing is [Music] that's right I just think lot building the other thing is like you talk about
something manyc I think with everybody's woman I think everybody what they want the chairman have a question um should we make set a time
for our next meeting I know we have a lot of small conversations going on right now but uh you know are we or do we want to open up the meeting and and start talking about some specifics or some general ideas I'm sure we got 12
General ideas here in the room so I believe I don't have on this calendar the golf committee I believe already has a meeting y 20th so we could always post both groups
together if people wanted to come join on the 20th at 4:30 get everybody's everybody's emails and everything right then and there Sydney has all our emails because she sent that broadcast out everybody's
email when I go to send something back to her it gets thrown back to me so I just went there yesterday hopefully it works because you were on the list I don't know if your email was there yeah it should be if it's
not when i s up to her get thrown right back to me yeah I talked to her yest I if it is this many people it might make more sense to see if we could use this space instead of town hall well more comfortable I can talk to sydne about that as well weedu this all right
even our golf meetings well if we're having a joint together all right so the next meeting the 20th everybody shows up will be here yes I think that'd be better provida especially looking at a little bit early find the police chief and then we at 4:30 I unless they using
it hopefully it's available so I'll check with them on that okay I'll get everybody's and has everybody send it to me grp things so I have everybody David do we want for the next meeting to have an idea like like a brainstorming session of like what you
guys looking for what the to I mean I know I've heard a lot of generalities but my thought is take the generalities of stuff that's like get them into some cohesive sort of idea or Vision that's sound a good idea John
because you have an idea a pro right food and eating what does that mean and you know how much how we going to scale it out I think what we collectively think is a couple of options TI with the AR potentially
help us on the estimated cost side right so we don't get too great of an idea like oh yeah that's 5 million thr that out there know so we don't want to be so Grand either so you're right we want to be kind of focused as to the size and
scope of what we all think would be the right solution for us and then you know this this brainstorm un break together a little bit back everybody prepared for that fall Thursday as their ideas as to what they think the core
components need to be in this building and this we can start to come to consensus on that because again we don't want to be spending time and money you know with an architect without him having a some semi Clear Vision right their job is to take people's visions and put it into reality but we want to
be kind of focus so he not all over the place so other people who run the facilities do they have a list of what they're looking for as far as their priorities I mean I know we s talking about Kevin talking about outside Pao
and stuff like that like what are they looking for you know knowing exactly what the priorities are and kind of knowing what the budget's going to be is going to be very helpful not knowing what the budget is in some ways it's kind of like kind of like going car shop and they say what do you want to spend
you go I have no idea so you're all over the place I think we're going through that process now okay with this architect firm and with everyone else that's going to be here you know there's a there there is a a limit that I think we kind of discussed but not you know
and then there's the selectman limit and then there's the architect limit so I don't know it's all going to be somehow combined and figure out where we got to go from there but we don't have like anything in concrete saying we're going to spend like he said $5 million it's not there
yeah and I think you a SWAT on about the timing that trying to bring it to Jun time meeting there lead times on on stuff that we can't even get information on like just a project I just finished doing I couldn't get I couldn't get
quotes in time for like electrical components I was like what is taking these guys and they're like I'm just so busy right so it's tough to get information in in it's five it's five months at this point right we're already halfway through February right exactly so did bring up something that maybe
everyone should think about is taking these road trips to look at some different clubhouses especially like uh he just mentioned we we should go look at the lower end ones the higher end and then the middle end and he's got some
polls that you could we can hopefully get in there with I've got some and um you know some of the ones that I have in mind they just built or just added on within the last four or five years is so you get some kind of an
idea and see where we go I don't think we all if you all want to go we can all go you know it's just a matter who wants to go when and that kind of stuff or you know we split it up you guys go to this one we go to that one something like that didn't you guys do that years ago
John when like what's that maybe n 10 years ago you guys went to s's Marsh and yeah was less than that like yeah you still I was still working there so it was yeah we went but since then they they've added on right they
they they come up with their swing garage and their heated driving range and they uh they extended the restaurant a little but they also do a lot of functions huh we're getting a heated driving r j do I need one
no you got one in your kids got one in that's something we should think about though is making it to be able to be built on to right for an addition in the future maybe the the folks at SS Marsh told me that they
sold every tea time in that outdoor area they have which has technology built into it in a bar and they have tea times I forget the Cadence of the tea times but they sold out from 8:00 a.m. to 400 p.m. till they Till die all win alone imagine that and I'm not suggesting we
should do that now as part of the clubhous build cuz that's all but thinking about the future how to generate revenue and CU you know think you going to Souther Marsh to see what they have would probably be valuable they they do a good business at that
that's a very good idea that's that's an ideal spot there's a few of you know there's icoy Brook just added on uh redid their whole Clubhouse um we can go to a back nine which is not a bad eating
area it's a smaller Clubhouse um some of the problem is uh like at um at West Bridgewater what's it name Scotland Lake they have a facility that's beautiful but their CS are like
from here to the corner to get to that kind of thing so I think we're going to stay away from that kind of stuff like they were saying with the tent going from the outside inside to outside and getting soaked you know trying to stay away from stuff like that I
think I think there's value and understanding what the user experience is the golfers experience so I was I was talking to John earlier and I said do we know who our golfers are are there are their email addresses can we solicit ideas from them what does the you're not going to please everybody in a situation
like this when I was at resi we would we were doing Capital project we'd say like hey some of these things we have to do I even asked John what is the what is the septic system built for at do you to start thinking about that stuff it's part of this build and can
can it tolerate 55 people one time I don't know what are I think bringing an architect is important they know those things I just work big projects at work where if we didn't have an architect we wouldn't have known capacities and law parking you
have ambulance erress fire e stuff like that you have to understand that stuff absolutely and a septic system could be a problem because a big one can be yeah I don't know how big the one we have there is I just built one that is big enough for 100 people at one meeting
and it was expensive to build oh yeah yeah and it's above grade too and the laws have changed since we built this golf course in town right so we had to build this huge we ended up turning it into a t box because that's how high it was just spit wall on ideas yeah we
should think about David doesn't Dana have all the emails from the people that play out there he did at one point in time they were maybe that's something we can access to do it we could ask we could have data to do it right send out a
survey to your constituents and say things like Hey we're doing an exploratory project right what what kind of amenities would would our golfers and and you're saying we got people from the cape we got people from up North plan more people than Bridgewater get to come in here to play our course let's see if
we can get some intelligence off of them this value in that stuff I'm on the team Titleist committee at work right we got millions of golfers and they tell us what they want out of new products right and that's a lot of data to help Define future products you
know and thinking 5 years out what we're going to sell to to Consumers and it's all click of the keyboard I think that's a great idea take the database hoping he still has somewhere right created he does if you make a t time they send an email back they would grab all those back from
you know for reserv whatever the software is Right create Google survey so it all dumps it into a you know spreadsheet for you kind of my mind cap the amount of opening to questions you want to form so you can get easily to read data so we want just rambling on
sentences and see be a quick and easy way to get the interest of the players you beyond this grp and Google give you the analytics it'll it'll spell it out for you it'll tell you what the trends are where where you can focus your ideas you're you're going to get the person
that doesn't want a bar doesn't want to have any food I just want to play bball you're going to get those guys but that's on the tale of the service so you kind of you don't make your you don't put your ideas in that direction definitely incorporate that so we have to decide on a
chair I be a chair for a day I mean we can and nominate other people I mean that's what mention somebody with experience my meeting and what not well I know how to get in touch with Jamie and I know how to get in touch with
Sydney and T yeah get into the town of Hall know Robert's Rules too yeah Robert's Rules right okay so but that's up to the the committee to decide um you know we have a meeting we
can have a meeting next Thursday you know that's fine we going a post uh 48 hours before the meeting so the agenda you know i' been talk to Dave and just come up with one to you know at some
point during the meeting because you're going to have your own agenda um at some point during the meeting just should we have a quick meeting of our committee and and choose who's going to run the committee and all that stuff and that meet with the that would be a good idea I think we should
do that so we're prepared to meet with the the folks that manage yeah right you missing anybody yeah we're not we're not in that yeah people yeah who's on
exploratory 1 2 3 four five six so we need oh seven all seven are here yeah they're all here what positions do you have to have you have chair obviously chair Vice chair to take over the chair right there to make up the agenda for the week and
uh contact the appropriate people you know it's not uh being a CH what you going to contact Pam well you got to come up with an agenda so you would determine that at the next at the uh the meeting that you
have yeah for a meeting you got week two weeks notice I mean two days notice 48 hours post that uh you get to communicate with Jamie if you need to
uh questions I'm going to go between okay all right so when you have a meeting I will go okay and bring the stuff back to our committee and then it just rolls from there our meeting need to be filmed
yes they have to law meetings yes really yeah well that's with all that open meeting information that we were given that we have to follow so that's part of what we talk to Sydney and whever at the town to schedule that or do we have to find the I think when you post the
meeting they cable people when they show up yeah ex it's got to be wage kept while we the meeting that's the other thing that's the other thing I don't know if we're going to be given second
secretary at the uh we we don't I tried to recoup one but she said she wasn't sure if she could do it okay do we have to take minutes yeah uh minutes need to be I don't know if how they treat the um the video if that's uh good enough for
us I I think that it's got to go to everybody you know what I mean I mean there got to be something in writing oh yeah we have to it's got to go to once the meeting's done so it goes around you that we go over the meeting that you
just had and say do you agree with the meeting that you guys all read last minute's meeting Y and then you go the minutes are being translated from the video correct I mean you guys be doing that I'm assuming wasn't Ed doing it no Ed Ed
was doing it Ed was doing it oh so you going to elect somebody for the one meeting we've had since I made notes myself but I'd rather not be to can we can we assign a secretary to take the minutes every meeting and then disseminate them to the to the team someone want to do you absolutely
can do that yeah someone's will to do it I don't see too many volunteers oh it's a time consuming I would say you know if you have an hour meeting you're going to spend spend an hour and a half two hours Deering so
maybe that's a question we need to bring to the board of SEL the that's a question yes they've done so that's a question that we need to get
answer so maybe next Wednesday we can meet to run the group meet THS I think we aot of time on wedn um I can send an email because they're probably going to be a manh I got a drop down there for uh Monday night Tuesday night shot
Wednesday so my first available day is Thursday so yeah you supposed to be here I guess well you got you got a meeting next Thursday yeah no it's in two weeks isn't it no so David are we going to have
a then have meeting with I think would be the better way to go so we have our 4:30 meeting so they don't have to sit through it unless they want yeah we can do it at say 4:30 and 5 that way we force to keep our our meeting to an hour
anyway okay yeah that's okay with everybody you guys someone's going to check to see if the room's open I think I'm going to email to tomorrow and ask her okay get out this space starting at 4:30 and just do them back to back next
Thursday can people attend the 4:30 meeting can I come to that just yeah sometimes we have I don't know you went the executive session a lot at my golf course they went into executive session every 15 minutes you
can't do that no very it's in the open meeting laws and people it [Music] contact tomorrow double check this we have our regular SCH being at 4:30 430 fac you guys at 5:30 I'll try to get
it here I'll get i'll get Gil address come C anyway that way if I get the back way and will you approach the architect are we going to be getting Dana's input on any of this or what's that what he
thinks he wants in a clubhouse or I know over the years just going there all the time and talking with Dan and it's you know he's got his thoughts on what he likes but he doesn't I think there value in it he he's the guy that runs he's the
director of alll right why would we not a Isaac and maybe anyone else that works here it doesn't hurt to ask questions bring him in because there's stuff that's going to be moved as far as uh turnover still I think the first few meetings we have have to be explor have
ask questions or area well that's to be determined we're going to explore that I mean another factor is we got the only driving range in town now since they put all do we have environmental drawings of the property where we could look at what we could do if there's wetlands things
like that would have the superintendent has all that he should cont Steve to ask for so I told him to reach out to Steve because I thought Steve had them can we find out how old the
drawings are because my experience that ones change over a 25 30 year period they have yes havea I just in case we wanted to kind of think outside the box a little about where we would plop a CLP house and
which direction it would be doesn't take much to be in a buffer zone there different kinds of buffer zones there 200t there 100t buffers there's a lot that is required before you before you get permission MH right you have to get through the
confound so and that can take months right there that's a lot all right so we as the exploratory committee us seven we're not going to meet before your meeting and we we're going to meet right
after this you meeting if you want take a seat and relax huh okay no we'll just go to that meeting that's F 5:30 one yeah yeah you're all invited to go to the at 430
it's it's open little post you got post 5:30 right think that sounds like a plan to get us going y do we need to make a motion to of the two I'll second that
motion oh I got make the motion why you make the two commit two committees I'll make yeah there's two I'll make the motion for the golf committee to adjourn second all in favor of the golf comme we are a on the golf facilities
Comm to adjin the facilities of the exploratory committee got a second [Music]