Good afternoon. Today is Friday, March 6th at noon. It is a meeting of the accrushna board of selectment. Is there a motion to call the meeting to order? >> So move. >> Second. >> All those in favor? I. Motion carries. As a reminder, this meeting will be audio and video recorded. Please rise for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge
algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> All right. First order of business. There's a mo uh there's a hearing on 619
Main Street. It's a class 2 auto sales. Is there a motion to call to open the hearing? >> So move second. >> All those in favor? >> I. Motion passes. Uh this is a petition by Mr. Eli D. Ro. Uh he was here before
the board a few weeks ago. Um and he's looking to convert the what was known as the doll store to a um used car dealership, a car dealership, but I guess in past iterations it actually was right a dealership at one point.
Correct. I know you gentlemen have done a lot of due diligence and discovery on this and um it still has to go before the ZBA. Um but is it the pleasure of the board to offer to approve the license with contingencies?
Um John and the only the only thing I don't see here is a name of the business. I don't know if you guys see a name. It just gives the individual's name. That's not the name of where the license would be.
I don't see that. Okay. They're calling it Adriano Vicente used cars. That's what was listed in the hearing. So, I'm assuming that's what it'll be called. If we can we can always amend that, I guess.
Yep. If it's not the case, I'm sure we can do a friendly. >> The name would have to correspond to the CB the name that the CBA approved. >> Okay. All right. Um, gentlemen, are there any thoughts or concerns?
>> Mr. Chairman, um, I kind of dove into this a little bit yesterday just to verify some things and all my initial concerns were kind of put to ease. Um, also going through an email chain, um, PDF FD all said that they don't have any
issues with this. Um, I agree that there needs to be some updated language on this, including the business name. Um, but I have no problem issuing a license as long as it's got some contingencies. Okay. Let's see here.
I agree, Mr. Chairman. I I spoke with the property owner about the number of cars cuz we always have to do that with a number of vehicles. And I told him, you know, I know with the parking lot being somewhat snowed in still, you know, I'm guessing that 12 would be
good, but he's he's requesting 15 because he said inside the building, he would like to have a small showroom. I haven't been inside the building, but he said he can get up to three cars inside the showroom um if that's going to be the case. So,
I'm sure that we can make a motion to approve the used car license up to 15 cars, 12 outdoors, three indoor. >> Okay. >> Um, no auto repairs on the at the facility. Yep.
>> He needs to put on his application as well. He give us an updated um application as well of where the auto repairs would be on the Mass General Law. Okay. >> That needs to be stated as well. So, as long as he can conform to that, I'm okay with the contingency issuing um approval
of the used car license for 619 Main Street. >> Okay. >> 12 cars outside, three cars inside, so a maximum 15 cars, used cars. >> Um no repairs at the facility. >> All right. There's a motion to that effect. Is there a second? >> Uh just to clarify that motion, uh this
would be contingent upon ZBA approval. Correct. Correct to the motion. Uh there's a motion. Is there a second? >> I'll second. All those in favor? Motion carries. Great. Great work. >> Motion to close the public hearing. >> Second. All those in favor. Right. Motion carries. Very nice. All right.
Next item is uh a solar proposed solar pilot for Clem's Way. Uh we have Zack. Is it Farcus? >> Yep. >> All right. Zach um has a uh representing a solar farm in town.
and proposed, you know, wanted to discuss the board's appetite for a a pilot uh project. And so, you know, I know we've talked about this in the past. And since this is the first real one that's come before us, thought it'd
be best to come in, have Zach introduce himself to us, get have the board know what he's uh proposing, and then see if there's an interest in I would say putting together a small working group of maybe a member of the board of selectmen, the assessors, town council,
work with Copeland and Page just to see what a proposal would look like. >> Um so with that, turn it over to you, uh Zack. >> Thank you, chairman. Uh, for record, Zachary Farcus. I'm with a company called Rew Wild Renewables. We're a solar energy development company, which is akin to almost any real estate
developer, except instead of building residential subdivisions or commercial lots, we do solar projects. So, I've done a fair amount of work in Aushnet over over the years. I've been doing this for about 15 years now. Um, but the the project I'm coming before you guys
is the most recent project. Um, it's located just off Main Street at the intersection of Clem's Way, if you guys know it. There's a mobile home park right there. There's two hayfields and then there's kind of a back lot that's grown that's grown up. Um, been working with the planning board and the
conservation commission for the better part of the past 6 months and we got our approvals from both those boards um in December, I believe it was. We took a couple months to close our financing to do our final design and um we're actually having our pre-construction
meeting on Monday. So, this project's going to going to get going um very shortly. Um I reached out to David in January after an introduction to just see what the town's appetite was to enter into or consider a pilot agreement. Um in my experience over the
years, a Cushnet has been a town not interested in pilots. So, the projects I've developed and built have simply been assessed on a year-by-year basis by the assessor, and we pay our taxes just like every um personal property or all the other personal property in town. Um, we always look for a pilot. Um, a pilot
to me s simplifies things. my uh revenues and costs for my operating power plant are just big spreadsheet and anytime I think of you guys know risk or unknown cells or rows in a spreadsheet are always kind of add um add a little bit of concern for kind of financing
parties and entities. So what we do is generally ask a town to agree to the payments that we're going to make every year for the 20-year operating period of the project. Um usually it's a pretty simple negotiating process where you just kind of work. There's lots of comps out there. There's tons of solar
projects in the Commonwealth. It's not that hard to come to a number. And um the agreement, the pilot agreement itself is basically a boilerplate form. Now, hundreds have been signed throughout the Commonwealth. Copman and Paige probably negotiating the vast majority of those. So, I've worked with
Copman on probably a a dozen to two dozen deals over the years um on these pilots and kind of have it down have it down. The the trade-off is simply certainty versus kind of the unknowns. and um you work through that in a kind of a a polite negotiating process where
you come up with the number um and then you move forward. >> Yeah. I think you know in the in the past the hesitancy on the pilots wasn't necessarily because we were opposed to solar and that it was more from a budgeting standpoint and Mr.
Gasper um led the way we put in special legislation that any money that we get in from solar on taxes doesn't go to the general fund. It goes to a separate account that used for uh capital projects. You just we're concerned about
the depreciating asset and building a budget on all of that stuff. That said, um I think now we're at a point with where we are with our budget and, you know, certain projects in town, we've had a, you know, a little bit more open
mind to that because if you were able to self- select one or two and you can then count on that revenue from a budget standpoint or other types of projects that we can earmark it towards um I think that could be really helpful, you know. So anyway, that's just my opinion.
>> No, it's a great benefit of the pilot. There's complete flexibility. Basically, what what my side would look at is simply the net present value of those 20 years of payments. And so, depending on capital capital projects that the town has in front of them, all that money could be pulled up into a year one
substantial payment or spread out like there's a ton of flexibility there, escalators, yearly escalators, etc. So, you balance it all out. But that's exactly it. I think we >> How big is this project roughly? It's 5.5 megawws approximately, but it's still kind of in that final design. It's
three different um three separate arrays. There's two hay fields on the site and then a third kind of older hayfield in the back, but each one is approximately 5 acres. So, it's about a 15 acre site. Um I know there's a lot of projects just going into construction now that's being driven by uh the
utilities kind of long-term upgrades that were required to turn these things on. Basically, when the projects were approved from an interconnection standpoint, uh the Department of Public Utilities gave Eversource four years to complete their upgrades. So, a lot of the projects that came before the
planning board in the CONSCOM 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, etc., have all been just sitting on the shelf. And now that Eversource is basically 3 years into that 4-year window, solar companies like me and others are just starting construction now. takes about six months
to build and then there's two or three months of kind of um QC checks um testing all that type of stuff. So, we want our projects ready when the utility is ready. >> So, you're saying within the next year or so we're going to see a you know the stuff that's been in the queue kind of a
a rush on the not a rush but >> it depends on what you I'd say the stuff that the planning board in the Comics Con is already approved. Got it. >> I think we have like six or seven. >> Yeah, I know that uh projects a couple projects. Exactly. Yeah. So, I I personally have developed four projects
in the town over the last six years. None of them have started construction because we've all been waiting for the utility, but this project here will start first and then the others are constru. >> So, the building department will see kind of a a queue a Q break where all the projects will move into construction
so that they can start operation in 2027. >> But that's kind of the background. So big way of saying, you know, depending on the strategy of a cushion, there there are four or five or six projects out there that would probably be interested in having these conversations as well to the extent of putting
together kind of a working group. Um, if you wanted to bring in some of those other companies, we could take care of it all at once. >> That's great. Gentlemen, what your thoughts? Um, you know, I'm as you know, I'm retiring and so I want to make sure that we've got something in place. Uh,
so I leave it up to you gentlemen who if anybody wants to volunteer. I don't know how you feel about a working group if that makes sense, but I do think we have to bring the assessors into the conversation and >> you're definitely the assessor town council. So I'll leave it up to >> Jim. I I would >> we did pass something at town meeting to
allow us to enter into agreements. Great >> um with these pilot programs and subject to the board's approval. >> I would look at I would like to see what the project would be in regular taxation over 20 years. I know that the town doesn't make a significant amount of money off these kind of developments and
the depreciation drops off a cliff relatively quick. >> I've done a study on two past developments, some of the oldest ones that are in town and I was actually shocked how how little the town makes on solar projects being a development in
this town. There's two people that make money, the solar company and the land owner on a lease agreement. The town really doesn't get peanuts out of it. Yeah, >> what I will offer up is the suggestion that we look at what that project, we'll just call it Clem's Way project. Give us
an example through assessors. We'd have to work with them and that working group and say what would it be, you know, over 20 years, total collected revenue and look at the years and how it scales down and the depreciation kicks off so hard after like year seven and eight. It just kind of just drops right off a cliff. Yep.
>> And see what that's all about and then see what the 20-year plan looks like. Right. >> Exactly. Right. That's that's one of the challenges to not having a pilot is for us, we're motivated to depreciate this asset as fast as possible, right? To remove the tax payment risk that we have
going forward. Um, but what a pilot does it is it flattens out that payment over the 20-year period gives the town certainty. It gives us certainty. Um, but yeah, when you're depending on these payments for part of the budget, I mean, there's only so many projects that can be be built. There's a there's a capacity factor. the available
electrical infrastructure can only handle so much generation. That means if you're pro- solar or against solar, eventually it's going to stop and it's going to stop very soon. So these projects will be built, then they'll operate, depreciate, and then there'll be no more taxes to the town. So
obviously a bump of money is nice, but then falling off a cliff for a town budget is is not healthy. >> Well, that's why we didn't do it that way. And as the chairman alluded to, we created special legislation. >> Perfect. >> Um, for that revenue to be used, a 5year capital plan,
>> it's got to have at least a 5year shelf life. But >> I mean, you want to try to put something together, you want we want to create a working group. I mean, I'm open to everything, but you know how much it's going to help us with budget. I mean, if it's 40 grand all in for a project over
20 years, you're only talking about $2,000 a year, right? >> Probably more than that. >> No, it's it's it's about like a project of Clem's waist size would is going to end up around $50,000 per year, every year for 20 years. >> That's what that's what we need to say.
>> Yeah. I I mean you guys your assessor can run his or her numbers and we compare them to mine, but from my kind of ability to kind of comp these projects from town to town to town. You know, the general expectation you guys should have is somewhere in the range just under $10,000 a megawatt DC is kind
of the units that we'd use. So some of the bigger projects, the 7 89 megawatt projects can get you that 70 80 90,000 a year. This one's a little bit of a smaller project for a a commercial project in Massachusetts at five five and a half. But um but yeah, I mean that
that would be the the general zip code, right? The expectation is it worth your time to even work on this? I would expect somewhere in the range of $50,000 a year. That'll increase a little bit. So that's 20 years, $1.2 million um paid to the town. And then depending on you
guys know what the town's trying to do. build a new high school or roads, buy a new snow plot, whatever it is that can be flexed, right? It it doesn't have to be flat or it can be flat. It's it's just a net present value. >> You just want to know, you just want stability, right? Certainty,
>> whether it's 1 million upfront and whatever or, you know, you just want to be able to >> Yeah. Copen and Paige's template pilot is, you know, a lot of legal ease. And then there's an exhibit and the exhibit has a chart. It says year one all the way down to year 20. And next to that is
how much we're going to pay every year. It could be $50,000 every year. It could be $700,000 and then $5,000 every year. Like it can be whatever you guys want to make it as long as that kind of net present value calc is neutral to me. And that will be kind of the first step. Maybe the first step in the working
group is kind of make sure that the town wants to pursue it as opposed to just continue doing it how you're doing it. Um but if the decisions made to like yes, let's pursue this. Um, we could talk about whether you want me to kind of bring in some of the other solar companies just so you guys can hit it all at once or we could just focus on
this singular project. I'll work with the assessor and obviously whatever board member other parties are here to get to a number that we all agree on. If we agree, great. It sounds like you guys already have uh the approval in place via town meeting, which is great. Um, but Coleman and Paige will check in
check on all that. And if we can't agree to a number, you know, no harm, no foul, and we'll just get taxed like the other projects that are operating have been taxed. >> So the finance guy in me says it's a little scary with using pilots because if we're going to be using that money now for budgetary reasons, let's just
call it $50,000 a year with one. What happens in 20 years? Where's that money coming up from after that? >> No, there's I mean it's either 20 years or if we go the depreciation method, it could be eight. But I think the 20-year term is the longest legal term uh a
municipality can sign. Um the expectation would be in year 10 or 12, right? It would be up for kind of renegotiation if the project continues operating past the 20-year period. But I think 20 years is a long time. So that's that's a good >> It is. But it's a burden I'm going to
put on a future generation. >> Yeah. I mean the same thing for for any personal property, right? Eventually it's going to it's going to come out. Um, gentlemen, I would say this. I know I mentioned having a member of the board on there, but at a minimum, I would
think for we'd have you like a town administrator, principal assessor, assistant town accountant, and maybe Jen. I just think it's a great learning opportunity for all of our staff to have as much act, you know, to be part of
that process and have an institutional knowledge. Um and you know and if if a board member wants to participate in that process, great. Ultimately the selectman would have to approve it. So you'll have visibility in that process. So maybe it's best to let staff and cop
and page work on that and then ultimately come back to the board. This way the board has objectivity throughout the process. If one person's in there during the beginning then that might you know just the optics of that may not be great. So maybe it was probably best to
just have our finance team, town administrator and town council work with Zach for this first iteration. You know, if the board feels like, yeah, this makes sense in the assessor. This makes sense, then consider this one and and others, but I
think that's probably the best bet. This it'll be new for us, but I think >> there's enough horsepower to get to figure out if it's the right thing for the town. >> Totally. Sounds great. >> Awesome. And Mr. Chairman, if I may, just to to clarify too, I think still keeping the solar revenue fund active so
we can control where this money is spent is going to have to go somewhere, right? >> Yeah. And this way we don't have to worry so much about the aspect of using this for budget. If it works, it works. If it doesn't, it doesn't. But >> 100% separating it like we currently are >> so we don't possibly jeopardize a future
generation is is important. But I'm open to any new idea possibility. and some stability. It doesn't scare me having the idea of stability, but I I would agree that I would like to see numbers put out in front of us. And I think the team >> you suggested makes sense.
>> All right. So, I think that there may be, you know, another way to skin it, too, is using Zach's $50,000 number on this particular project. And we're just I know we're just arbitrarily using a figure and I like round numbers. So $50,000 if there would be a way for us
to figure out is do you need to if you were going to use if you were enter into a pilot program do you need to use the whole amount in that pilot program? Can it be split 50/50 7525 where you only use 25% of the number for budgetary and
put the other 75 into that capital um fund making sure that's legit and legal by do. >> Yeah. question for your accountant. Um, for sure, but in my experience, the one of the benefits to the towns of of these pilots is that there's a lot more flexibility with allocating the funds
than a typical tax account. >> Right? So, just a caveat, it's a statutory account, so it might be that all of the money has to go into it.
>> Yeah. Which is fine. It keeps it out of the budget. It's, you know, but there's other projects that >> I still think even if if that's the case, you can like Dave was I think the chairman's going to allude to is even if it can't be used for budgetary purposes, it still provides them stability, right?
And I get the stability that you're looking for financially. What the banks did to move and target, they don't usually like that for revenue um reasons, but it still gives us a trajectory of this is what it's going to be every year. you're going to put that into that capital account, right? Correct.
>> So, either way, I think it it kind of works out probably pretty good for the town >> and probably pretty well, I know it's going to work out pretty good for the solar company cuz >> they have proposed it. >> Well, it's it it just it just makes sense from a financial perspective that you whenever you're doing financials,
you want stability, right? You don't want girrations in your revenue and or expenses. >> We don't want to fight either, right? Like there's there's just the transactional aspect of it, right? I live in Milton. I've developed in Massachusetts for 15 years. I want to
make sure what when I'm talking in front of a planning board meeting, if I've got some abutters that are frustrated about a pro a property getting developed, we talk about some of the community benefits, you know, beyond the renewable energy, etc., etc., the economic benefit to the town is a big one. And so I have
the money in my budgeted forecast for the operations of the project, right? It's there. I haven't spent it yet because we're in year zero, but it's there. And eventually when we finance these projects, they move up to a large bank or whatnot. And there's just a different motivation there when you're just being assessed. You know,
attorneys, etc. can appeal the tax bill or push it or whatever they want to do. But once the pilot's signed, it's off the table. It's a contract. It's done. We're paying it every year. So, it just it it helps it helps me feel better about my project that I develop that,
you know, I'm not going to I'm not going to swipe $15 million on my MX card and build this thing, right? I'm going to pull in a loan. We're going to bring in a what's called an IP, which is independent power producer. These are the big companies that own power generating entities. These same guys own
nuclear, they own gas, they own they own uh coal plants, etc. They have their names on football stadiums. They're buying up all these solar projects because they want another alter alternative or renewable way for these to generate electricity because of the value of being in the electricity
business these days. But just you guys understand the motivation's a little different when it's 6 years from now. I'm completely gone out of the picture and you know who knows they're trying to drive up profit by saying all right let's push these tax payments down or >> let's depreciate this asset faster. So
like there is a certain amount of protection and kind of good faith for everybody because we're making this deal now, right? >> And then it goes good. >> But I would suggest gentlemen maybe a motion to assemble a solar pilot working group consisting of the town administrator, principal assessor,
assistant town accountant, treasurer, collector, and cop and page. Um, and then so with that, if you're good with that, gentlemen, >> the only thing the only thing that for right now I wouldn't want KP Law involved in I think for the working
session until we get to that point cuz that's a that's a cost factor that's going to eat up a lot of money if this and in all these sessions if there's five or six and >> their hourly rate. >> So Zach, I'm not saying I have to quick two
sessions. It's not a long conversation. I just Well, KP's KP's already done them, right? So, it's only what y'all going to bring to the table as far as your project goes, sitting with our staff and explaining to it and then getting the questions from our staff to you to answer those questions so that our staff can be comfortable with it.
>> Making sure you guys like the concept and then making sure you guys like the number and then you can bring in. >> Just want to make sure we know that Colton and Paige will be part of this process. Totally. So, there's a motion. Is there a second? All those in favor? >> Carries. Great. Fun fact, learned today that Zach played in the Red Sox organization.
>> Not very long, not very well, >> but still it's uh that's a good thing. So, good stuff. >> All right. And I guess you can um Jamie Kelly is our town administrator for now. We just hired a new >> town administrator. So, we'll get
through Margaret who your contact information is and we'll have somebody kind of lead it and kick it off and get it organized. >> Sounds great. >> All right. Thanks. >> Thanks, Jeff. Cheers. All right. Next item is MP Systems. Is
that uh Jamie V? Are we not doing the >> Oh, shoot. Sorry about that. Just >> Yeah. No, no. I'm glad you was looking at where is that? Sorry. >> Uh so, looks like Sered has a one-stop
grant. They're looking for a letter of request uh support that Victoria has put forward. Um and then thanks for reaching out. Person should be listed as an applicant and have a level of commitment working on this project if awarded. And
this is in regards to the uh is this sorry general, I'm catching up to lost time here. It's it's looking to put together stuff on floods and you know it's a a planning tool that we wouldn't have it sounds
like we wouldn't have to spend money on it but it's a grant just to give our planning department and planner some additional information you know give them additional resources. >> Uh Mr. Jim, if I may, a couple months back, uh, Victoria had reached out to us
asking and my only concern was as long as we're not obligated to provide partial grant funding or any, you know, additional matching funds, I'm always in support of applying for any grant or showing support letter. Um, and if I if
I'm correct, we actually already talked about this probably last year. Yeah. real briefly in regards to this um and going through this. This is it looks like it's just basically a letter of support so can get the grant >> to put together some really cool
topographic conditions and stuff like that. >> Yep. >> Okay. Is there a motion with support? >> Uh M. Uh I'll make that motion. >> Second. All those in favor? I >> All right. Now we can get to uh MP systems for water compliance.
So, as you guys know, we are in non-compliance with the D as we don't have a primary water operator for a water system. So, MP water systems has we, this is a quote from them. They came
out uh I've met with them a few times. they've met with um two of our water operators kind of kind of they'll be more of like an oversight assigne and you know they put their insurance on the line if there's anything that you know in their name on the line if
there's anything that comes up you know they would need to address you know but it's a requirement VP to have somebody and you know since ours was Drew we need to do something you know it could be in a month-to-month basis we could do until we get things
organized. >> Yep. >> You know, >> I mean, it's not um it's not insignificant the cost, but >> which we can do right now until we are able to iron it out with uh with the uh the past
>> uh the ones who who handled it in the past. and probably just given everything that's going on with the snow and probably not the best time to dive into that conversation. But um I don't know that we have any choice quite frankly at this juncture and if we can do it
monthto month you know um and then review you know revisit it >> we'll have to do >> revisit it enough you know say six months you know >> sometimes these arrangements are very good very simple >> yeah Mr. Jim, if I may, I mean, having
the terms and termination, as long as we give them 30 written date, 30 30 days notice, we can exit at any time. But I think for compliance sake, don't really have much of a choice. >> Yeah. >> Anybody have Mr. Gasper? Any questions?
No, sir. >> All right. I guess we need a motion to enter into contract uh to approve MP Water Systems Management Inc. So move. >> Second. All those in favor. Motion carries. Thank you. Thanks Jamie for working on this. You're welcome.
>> All right. We've got a little bit of unfinished business from last week. Um uh police con police chief contract as well as town administrator and uh town administrator Demeritus J. Kelly. So,
got two executive sessions and the board intends to go back into public session. And so, is there a motion for convening executive session mass general law chapter 38 section 21 subsection A subsection A to conduct strategy
sessions in preparation for negotiations with non-union personnel. police chief or to conduct conduct collective bargaining session or contract negotiations with non-union personnel and the intention to go come back into open session. Is there a motion?
>> So move second. >> So we'll call Mr. Gasper. >> Yes. >> Mr. Hinckley. >> Yes. >> I mean yes. Uh second one is motion for convening executive session mass general law chapter 38 section 21 subsection A to conduct strategy sessions in preparation for negotiations with
non-union personnel town administrator or to conduct collective bargaining sessions or contract negotiations with non-UN personnel. The board will return to public session at the conclusion of executive session. Is there a motion? >> Second. Roll call. Mr. Gasper.
>> Yes. >> Mr. Hankley. >> Yes. And I'm a yes. We'll be going to executive session. Gary, I think we're going to Chief, we're going to meet and then we'll call you in like we did last time. That's all right. >> Good afternoon. We are uh back from
executive session. Is there a motion to reconvene the meeting? >> So moved. Second. >> All those in favor? >> Motion carries. Uh it's with great excitement that uh we are able to announce that we have come to terms with uh now Chief Gary Copper. U G Gary if
you want to just um again I think to put a little um formality to this. Um, you know, as you know, we it's our fiduciary responsibility. As much as we, you know, have confidence in you, have
confidence in the police department, we are the vanguards of the taxpayer and we always try to be uh fair. Um, but the taxpayer is our northstar, right? And we every decision we make is on behalf of the resident. Um but in this case I feel with your understanding of that and I
think as a town resident you understand the pressure that we're under um that we're both able to give a little bit on each end um and come with come up with a package that we feel is um in everybody's best interest. So that uh
thank you chief uh for that. >> Um and so you know it went back and forth. we didn't get it done on the first day and you know that's what happens when you're in a negotiation. Um it's it's never that easy. So, um, with that said, gentlemen, I don't know if you have any thoughts, if you want to
initiate the motion and announce to the public the terms of that and we'll put it all together in the final document and then we plan to meet next Tuesday and then officially sign it and then, you know, we'll work to get your official sign swearing in. And this is a
momentous occasion, you know, and we want to make sure we do it right. So, >> thank you. U, Mr. gym if I just could really quickly. Um I feel like uh I say I'm a friendly guy, Gary, and I say Gary a lot and I just realized something that um something I've told my children. When
you see a man in uniform, it's officer, sergeant, chief, and it's not to lessen what you were as interim, but um I just convinced myself that it's going to be a very proud moment for me to call you Chief Gary Copper. Um, with that being
said, I would make a motion to appoint Gary Copper as a Kushnitz police chief with the base starting salary of $150,800. >> Second. Thank you. >> And uh, and I'm a >> Yes. All those in favor? >> I I have a yes. So, congratulations,
Gary. Thank you very much. Thank you. >> Just give me a minute. I I I want to say something that Mr. Hley, I said, you know, most of the time, even when you were provisional, you'd give me a call and I say, hey, chief, it's just human nature for me to do it. And I actually
through the snowstorm, I think I was like, "What's up, Gary?" And I even slipped up a couple I always try to have that level of respect as Mr. Hinckley was alluding to, but I did catch myself one or two times through that snowstorm fiasco that we went through. And, you know, I think we're all at that
mentality at that point. So, um, congratulations, Chief. Um, congratulations to the department, the men and women women of our department. They now have a permanent leader, um, at the helm. So, kudos to you and kudos to everybody at that department for keeping
that department moving forward the way they have and serving the public. So, I hope you do just as good of a job as all our past chiefs, and I'm confident you will. >> Thank you. We have a great team there, and I'm sure it will continue. It's an honor and a privilege to be appointed today. So, thank you.
>> Bravo. CONGRATULATIONS, J. CONGRATULATIONS. >> All right, so we've got I guess that's it, right? We just got to uh >> review a couple more reviews for it. >> Yep. Yep. And hopefully we can we are
going to meet on Tuesday. Um we want to get the police uh not police, the DPW trash and hauling and all that stuff. get that RFP out the door and then also do I think Mr. Kelly and assistant town accountant. We need to give you
direction and guidance on the big the big budget items of police, fire, DPW and all the other things that are under control. I mean, I understand, right, the some of the smaller items, level funded, those are already kind of been litigated, but the big three, I think
you need to get some guidance from us on really the direction of those departments and where we want those to go and how to uh to reflect uh the board. So, um continue with that on Tuesday. We'll do that Tuesday at 4:00. So, with that said, if there's no other
work to do um or any comments, there's a motion to adjurnn. So moved. Second. >> All those in favor? Motion carries. Thank you.