Okay. This public hearing is now called called to order at 6 p.m. This hearing hearing is being held as a requirement by the provisions of chapter 131 section 40 of the general laws of the Commonwealth and act relative to the protection of the wetlands as most
recently amended. Notice of time and place of this hearing was published in the Faven neighborhood news on November 13, 2025. It was also posted in the clerk's office. This meeting is being audioed and videotaped. Persons wishing
to be heard will be called in the following order. U motion to open the public hearing. I'd like to entertain a motion to open a public hearing. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Okay. Um, please approach your podium to address the commission. Speak clearly
and loudly. Um, we are not having the sign-in sheet tonight. Or are we, Joanne? >> I can. >> All right. Joanne's going to put the signin sheet. She don't know your name. She is going to ask it. And it's all because of the um minutes of the meeting that get recorded.
>> Yep. So now, first thing we're going to start is minutes for approval. Um, November 12th, 2025. Review of Matter presented votes may be taken. I did get a chance to review them. Did anyone else? >> I did.
>> Yeah, I didn't see any issue. >> No, they look good. With that being said, I'd like to entertain a motion that we accept the November 12th, 20 >> second. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I uh meeting mail letters from Eversource
regarding activities located at ROWS 140 and 141. utility maintenance, vegetation management. Letters to 35 Hathaway Road regarding possible wetland violation. Letters to two Tilly Way regarding possible wetland
violation. Letters to 7 Tilly Way regarding possible wetland violation. These are all letters that our agent sent out. Old business continue public hearing request for an amended order of condition. Applicants in Kapa Park Drive LLC owner Whites Farm
Incorporated Pop Park Drive SC 001-0553 a request for an amended to an existing order of conditions of file by Sappa Park Drive LLC for property located off Park Drive map 17 lot 22B.13. The applicant proposes to install a
solar photobolic array consisting of 4,999 KW battery storage project within the 100 foot buffer zone to a bordering vegetated wetland. Revisions include wetland crossing areas and wetland flagging. The applicant is presented by
Wesson and Samson Engine in plan name is Park Drive solar PV development dated December 10, 2020. Revised September 16, 2025. Review of Mas presented votes may be taken. The applicant has requested a continuence to the December 10th, 2025
meeting. With that, I'd like to entertain a motion that we continue this to the December 10th, 2025 meeting. >> Motion to continue for December 10th, 2025. So, I got a second. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I continue public hearing. NOI Cleansway
Solar LLC Co Rewild Renewables LLC 1094 Main Street, Map 7, Lot 15, SE00001-0607. A notice of attempt was filed by Zachary Fat Fars for property located at 1094 Main Street, map 7, lot 15. The
applicant proposes to construct ground mounted solar arrays and open fields and forested land. The work proposes within bordering vegetated wetland bank land underwater bodies and waterways and bordering land subject to flooding as well as the 100 foot buffer zone to the bordering vegetated wetland and bank.
The the applicant is represented by Sarah Sterns of Bales and Thomas Incorporated. Plan name is Clemens Way Solar Project 1094 Main Street, Massachusetts. Dated June 11, 2025. Revised September 11th, 2025. Review of
matters presented. Votes may be taken. The applicant has requested a continuence to the December 10th, 2025. I would like to entertain a motion that we continue this to December 10th. >> Motion to continue for December 10th. >> Second.
>> All those in favor? >> I Okay. Continue public hearing. NOI Darren and Samantha. >> Can we take it out of order? >> Um I'd like to enter a motion that we take this out of order. We have um an
engineer that has to get to another meeting. Um with that being said, I'd like to entertain a motion that we put it out of order. >> I'll make that motion. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I I >> Okay, we're going to go right to the new business. That's 49, right? >> Yes. Okay.
>> Um >> public hearing IDA Edward Sylvia, 49 Hathway Road. A request for determination was filed by Edward Sylvia for property located at 49 Hathway Road, map 12, lot 9. The applicant proposes to re repair a four bedroomedroom septic
system with uh isolated land subject to flooding at the southwest corner and bordering vegetated wetland along the easterly and northerly sides of the lot. The applicant is represented by Rick Sharon of Sharon Associates Incorporated. Plan name is plan of sight and repair of subsurface sewage
disposable dated October 27th, 2025. Review of matters presented. Votes may be taken. I'd like to entertain a motion that we open the public hearing. >> Motion to open the public hearing. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I. It's all yours, sir. >> Thank you, Mr. Chairman, members of the commission. Thanks for taking me out of
order. Have to get the free time there. >> Um, >> Rick, introduce yourself, please. >> Uh, my name is Rick Sharon from Sharon Associates Engineers. >> Thank you. >> Uh, here on behalf of Ed Silva and Bethany Mato, uh, Mr. Silva is here this evening if you have any questions for
him. Uh, this was, uh, his mother's property. Uh it's up she's passed away unfortunately and house is up for sale. Uh we've got a a wetland which we delinated off in the right hand side of this. So we got BBW over in here. Uh we did have a also an isolated pocket ILSF
up in the front of the property up by the street but we didn't see any connection between the two of these. Uh this property basically is is pretty marginal. You can see the original uh well actually we didn't have it on here but original septic system was right in here very
close to that edge of wetlands. We've been able to get it over so we're 50 ft away from the flagged wetlands and we're able to give it a a twoft groundwater separation. This is uh the Elgen system that we're using on this which comes with the approval for 2T above groundwater. Uh so it allows us to get
something in here without too much of a mount but we've still got about a twoft mound coming up over here. Uh to get that done, we have to go into a new septic tank and then we're pumping with a uh pump chamber uh into that leeching field. It's uh for the four bedrooms in the existing house. Uh the old system
basically will be abandoned except for the tank which will be removed u and then backfilled. Um aside from that, it's a standard septic system repair, but we are in a buffer zone. Uh we're able to meet the 50ft minimum that's required by title 5. And uh aside from
that, uh that that's essentially what we're doing. We if we could get better, we would, but we can't. This is a tight site and uh a lot of restrictions in it. >> Um I mean, we walked it on not this past Saturday, Saturday, but two weeks ago.
Um I don't have any issues with what you're trying to do. I know I believe that's an old filledin site also way prior to probably any of us born. Well, maybe not you. But it is it's an old site that was
definitely was filled in from years ago. Uh they put the house on it that septic system. I don't have an issue. Uh does anyone else from the commission? >> No. >> Certainly seems to be an improvement over what the existing was. So >> exactly. Anyone from the public? >> I mean,
>> all right. With that being said, I'd like to entertain a motion for a negative determination on the RDA. >> Right. Can Can we close it for us? >> Excuse me. I'd like to close the public entertain a motion to close the public hearing. >> So moved. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I. >> Now I'd like to entertain a motion that
we um go with a negative determination for the RDA. >> I'll make a motion. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I. >> All set, sir. >> Thank you. >> Get to your next meeting. >> Okay. >> Now we're going back now. continue
public hearing and no Darren and Samantha Ryas Reyes. Sorry about that. 40 Qu1-40616. A notice of intent was filed by Darren and Samantha Reyes for a property located at 40 Qual Lane. The applicant proposes to add a one-bedroom addition
and to upgrade into a larger subsurface sewage disposal system. The entire addition septic pump chamber piping in a portion of the leeching field and associated gradient are located within the 100 foot buffer zone to a bordering vegetated wetland. The applicant is
represented by Gregory Drake of Outback Engineering Incorporated. Plan name is subsurface sewage disposal system design dated October 2nd, 2025. Revised November 17th, 2025. Review of matters presented.
Votes may be taken. I'd like to enter a motion that we continue the public hearing. Motion to continue the public hearing. >> Not not continue. >> Oh, >> yeah. To open the continued public hearing. >> Open. I thought you said
>> No, I said to open the continued public hearing. >> To just continue it. I Okay, I missed the word open. >> That's all right. Me. Me, too. >> Okay. >> Maybe I did. You did. >> Okay. So, I'll make the motion to open the continued public hearing. >> Second. >> All those in favor?
>> I go right ahead, sir. >> All right. I'm Jack Sergeant with Outback Engineering. Uh here representing uh Darren and Samantha Ray. They're here as well. Uh and what we're proposing is we're proposing a one-bedroom ADU and to expand the uh
existing septic system. Uh the existing septic system, it passed its last title 5 inspection. So, we're looking to expand deep system. Uh deep system had uh four
rows of uh legion um uh no sorry, three rows. Uh we're looking to expand those three rows and add two rows as well. Um the all the um the existing septic is 67.1
ft away from the um wetlands and the ADU the ADU building would be uh 63.5 ft away from the uh wetlands and we're proposing um a self fence all around the
uh ADU and the septic fair construction. ction. The only uh thing I was just wondering about on your NOI, it says uh for an addition, but it's clear in ADU, right? Is there a reason why we put an addition on the NOI?
>> Uh we might have just accidentally had addition instead of ADU. >> So, anyone got anything to say on this one? >> Going to be less impact, right? >> Yeah. And I think it's a better design than the first design truthfully. Um I
think that would have been a little crazy to try to do that. So I think this is a better design. My own personal opinion. >> Um so fence uh of course you got to give we got to give uh 5 days notice before uh any construction after the so fence is up. That's fine.
>> Um do you have Joanne the special order of conditions? >> I forgot them in my briefcase and I didn't bring them today. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. So, of course, we have all the um the standard
conditions. Um but I am going to read off the special conditions for this. We have a road to control inspection on-site meeting with contractor within 5 days prior to construction. No stockpiling materials, no equipment sold, no fueling, no portable tors or wash out from concrete in the buffer
zone. A certificate of compliance request shall be filed no later than 18 months after the issuance of the occupies permit. If the applicant fails to comply or contact the conservation a $250 fine for non-compliance will be issued. I know they already have an
occupied permit, so that won't be an issue on this one, but we've had problems in the past with people go 20 years without getting one. Um, so with that being said, I'd like to entertain a motion that the order of conditions get accepted.
>> First close, >> uh, first you want to ask anybody? >> Yeah. Public >> public first. Anyone in the public for this one? >> Then I understand a motion that we close the public hearing. I make a motion. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I.
>> Then I'd like to entertain a motion that we accept the order of conditions. >> With this standard order >> plus the standard orders and >> I'll second that. All those in favor?
>> I I'm abstain from that. >> Okay. I'll say >> thank you. >> Good luck. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. Have a good evening. Happy holidays. You too. >> Don't eat too much. >> Okay.
Next page. >> Yeah. Public hearing. NI Gary Nichols Thomas Road map 3 lot 7 lot 8.4 SE 0010617. A notice of attempt was filed by Gary
Nichols for property located at Thomas Road. Map 3, law 8.4. The applicant proposes construct a semi single family dwelling with associated septic system grading driveway and roof in infiltration chambers within the 100 foot buffer zone to a bordering
vegetative wetland. The applicant is represented by Chris Capone, wetlands consultant. Plan name and septic system design. Notes and date uh details dated September 19th, 2025. Review of measures presented. Votes may be take taken. I'd
like to entertain a motion to open the public hearing. >> Motion to open the public hearing. >> All those in favor? >> I I um we have no one here to represent. Chris did not come in. Um do we have anyone from the public on this one? >> I thought so. Uh you want to come to the
podium and I'll just give you quickly what we can do. State your name in. >> Frank Gonzalez, 30 Thomas Hill Road. >> Okay. So um unfortunately Chris Capone ain't here tonight so we will not be um bringing this to we won't bring it to a vote or nothing. We are going to go to a
continuence of the next public date uh the next meeting um which you'll hear about that in a second. I'm sorry for coming in. We found out last minute that he wasn't coming in but um I did want to bring you to the podium just so you knew what was going on. >> Okay. Thank you very much for that. uh
of their neighbors. Are we going to be notified again through our service? >> So, there will not be a um another abundance notification. >> They won't. No. >> So, the people who aren't here who maybe wanted to attend but couldn't may not know about the next meeting.
>> That's correct. And um they only have to publicize it once. Um which Joanne and I have actually been working on that. We're going to make them whether they continue or not to come in. But um I will let you know when the continue date is. It's a date set. >> I think it's unfair. I think the other
neighbors should also find out about it. >> Um it's out of >> It's going to be live right now. >> It's going to be live now. You can tell them to watch this meeting and you can pass it along to your neighbors to watch this meeting. >> We Yeah, we could do that, but >> it's supposed to be today.
>> They're the ones that cancelled, >> right? Correct. >> I think the neighbor should be notified again. Well, it's not an uh it's not something that I'm in control of if they go by the rules. Um I I think um I did tell Joanne I'm more than willing to give you a call when it is, but it's
going to be right now on the public on air. You can pass it around to your neighbors. You can tell them to watch this meeting. That's the best I can do for you, sir. >> Okay. >> All right. Joan, when is the meeting? >> December 10th. >> We're going to continue to December 10th. >> Are you taking any questions on it anyway?
>> No. Not until the >> We can't We can't until Yes. >> Okay. Uh, what set date are we going with? >> December 10th. >> December. >> We never We never closed it either, right? We still have to close it. What? >> Right. He has to We're just talking about the date you're going to close and
then >> the date. >> Well, it's going to be a continued public hearing. I'm >> sorry. Oh, yeah. You're not going to close. >> Yeah, we're not going to close this. >> Yeah. It's going to end up being a continued public hearing, >> right? So, we're going to take it move this to December 10th meeting. continue to December. >> So with that being said, I'd like to
entertain a motion that we continue this to the December 10th meeting. >> Motion to continue to December 10th. >> All those in favor? >> I Okay. Sorry about that, sir. And if you want to let your neighbors know and tell them to watch the meeting, that's the best we can do for you.
>> I'll do that. >> All right. Thank you. Okay. Discussion. 2026 filing deadline WPA and storm water review of matters presented votes may be taken. >> Um what is this regarding?
>> So I compiled the 2026 filing deadlines uh which I gave you all a copy of. Mhm. >> Um I had talked to Beth David about her scheduling and when she publishes she takes some time off in July and she takes some time off at different times
of the year. So that was more or less what I came up to. I have the disclaimer here that you know we may have to change things as you know time goes on. I know we will normally be meeting at the police station >> beginning of March, end of February
around like that. So, as soon as I get updates, I try to get the Boris Lechman uh uh assistant to uh place it on the uh conservation commission website. So, I would advise everybody to check the website all the time or feel free to call the office for information.
>> Yeah. So, Joanne kind of went over this with us and um we kind of like it. No Labor Day. Uh we are going to do the Apple Peach again. So, there's a couple things like she said though, there is subject to be changed. Um, and we also have to go by, like she said, the legal ads, too. So, with that, I'm fine with
this. Um, I don't think we need to vote on this. Do you win? >> Um, if you don't want to, that's fine. I just wanted to bring it to your attention so it can be accepted as is right now. And like I said, if I have to change anything, it'll be Julia and you
can discuss things and we'll >> I'll put it to a vote. I'd like to entertain a motion that we accept the filing deadlines in the WPA and storm water. I have a motion to accept. >> I'll second. All those in favor? >> I
>> I got a excuse myself on the next one. >> Excuse me. >> Next up, 185 Matapo Road update. Review of M presented. Votes may be taken. Um,
at this point, do we have anything further from town council or >> so? I haven't heard anything further yet. >> Anyone has anyone? >> No, but I would like to be able to get out there and see the site
>> as well though. So, if that's something we could set up so that way I can have more information about this one. >> Yeah. >> So, I I'm going to chime in on that. And then you said that you can you can make that attempt. >> I I know the last time there was an
attempt and we were refused entry to the property because of the litigation that's happening with this >> maybe discuss with um Alex town council. >> Yeah. I I would discuss this with Alex. >> I would suggest that
>> um and see if there is um >> well >> or what the probability is. I believe there's ongoing correspondence back and forth with them. So >> I don't think it's completely at a
stalemate at this point, >> but it would be a good idea if you could get eyes on what is going on there. >> I think so for sure. >> I think the first quite a few >> I think the first uh avenue is to speak with Alex.
>> All right. Yeah. >> Yeah. Right. That's just where we're at for the day. >> That's all That's all I can suggest. >> Um I mean, you could reach out to um the Tracy's, but I I don't know if they'd even respond. So,
>> okay. I'll definitely be in touch with Alex, and I think that's a good idea. >> Okay. >> All set. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. That being said, >> give me a little poison break, too. >> So, is this So, just we we're not putting it on the next agenda. We'll
just wait for an update. >> Yeah, I think. Okay. Agent update. Site visit, possible wetland violations. Um Julia um sent letters. It was in the beginning of the meeting. I said where
the letters were sent. She sent one to 35 Hathaway Road. Um Doug Lemieux. Doug Lemieux did call Julia back. Julia, if you want to go on. >> Yeah. So I spoke with Doug on the phone. Um when we were on 49 Hathaway Road, we
noticed a little trench kind of dug on 35 Hathaway Road in their wetlands. So, I spoke with Doug on the phone and we're going to do a site visit December 6th and he'll be at the December 10th meeting to speak about that. >> Six.
>> All right. And then we have um two Tilly's way and five Tilly Way and seven Tilly Way. Um I believe five is out of this loop. Am I correct by saying that? >> Yeah, I think so. Yeah, >> it's two and seven. So, so let's start
out with two Tilly Way. Um, if you want to go right ahead, Julia. >> Yes. So, I received an email from Eversource saying um there was some unlicensed activity within their easement road. So me and Jim went out
there to take a look and we noticed um what appeared to be some like reads knocked down in the wetland, uh piles of dirt, trailers and machinery that weren't supposed to be there as well as a little bridge built. Um so that's what we noticed when we went out there and uh
it looked like there was some disturbance to the wetland vegetation. >> So we did the site visit on um Saturday. Uh you guys kind of saw the same thing we did, but not really. Um there was a lot of leaves put down. There was a lot
of uh straw put down. Um the the piles of dirt were covered with leaves. They're still there. The piles of dirt were covered with leaves. Today I had Julia call um James Clancy, the one that gave us the report, asking them if they left any dirt there. They said
absolutely not, did they? So, um, with that being said, we got to actually figure out how we want to handle this. Um, I'm not sure what to do for a restoration or or whatever. I think, um,
this should go to a a consultant to let us know what to do. Um, I don't know what was taken down. Uh, like I said, the evol said they did not leave any dirts there. I don't know if we can put this a vote on the agent updates. Can we? No, we cannot. So,
>> what did uh what did you go by to determine that it was a delineated wetland? >> We haven't. >> Okay. >> So, we're going by what we saw, what we feel. It's not a true feel. I mean, we're not botnist. We're not wetland.
So, um we can't put it to vote tonight, but um that's something we got to look at what to do. So, and you guys are too way, correct? >> I am. >> So, Saturday you told us that the dirt pile was there left by Eversource, which was incorrect. Ever.
>> We got to go by the first the podium. >> No, you want to come up to the podium, please. >> Yeah. >> Alo. >> So, that dirt wasn't that from >> Well, uh, Julia, please. >> Yeah. So today I spoke with James Clancy on the phone, which is the one who
alerted us of this activity. Okay. >> Um he told me that they don't leave dirt and that they wouldn't and that um they had inspections recently on that road and if there was dirt piles, Eversource would have left by them, they would have known and they would have removed it
immediately. So I it it wasn't from them either. So um that's all I can say. I mean, I guess it's my word against theirs, but there's dirt piles in there. There's also like a tree stump in there, too. I definitely didn't remove any trees. I also didn't do any machine work back there besides
remove those containers because Everest told me I had to remove the the containers and I registered as a farm and that was it. So, well, tonight we can't vote on nothing. We really can't discuss much
because of where we have it on the agenda. So, with that, um, we're going to I know that she gave you a verbal seasoned assist >> on that. We're going to continue that until we, uh, get this back on our agenda where we can discuss it, vote on it, and we are going to look for, um,
some kind of consultant or, um, going from there, which you would have to pay for our botness or whatever it takes to figure out what we got to do to correct what was done wrong. If a bartness goes in and says there's no wetlands, then we don't have any issues. But uh for us to look at it, I feel there is. But it's
only my own feeling. It's not what I did. >> So should I get a lawyer for this? Because I have all this USDA paperwork that I didn't clear any land there. You were saying I went in there with an excavator. I did not go in there with an excavator. Did you see any tracks?
>> So listen, I'm not an investigator. >> Yes, you are. >> No, I'm not. >> You went up there and investigated. You're saying, "Look, pigs can't run excavators." That's what you told me. >> Yeah, I did. Yeah. on the side of the whole road. There it was. But right now, we can't put it to vote. We can't put a discussion because it's found under that. >> Well, you can talk about it if we're
going to try to move it forward. >> So, we are going to move >> to hire a Yeah, but I'm trying to tell you about what I'm saying about my farm and everything. >> Your farm is not registered with the town. I already called Becky and asked her. She says you're not a 60. You're
not chaptered. But where does it say? >> Hold on. Hold on. Stop right there. I also made some phone calls and that >> do you about this property at all? I heard I know I do not I do not own any property at all and I think uh you're mistaking me from somebody else but I don't own any property.
Okay. So I made some phone calls also and the phone calls I made specifically said if it's state certified then it's a certified farm under the state's supervision. The only thing difference from it being registered at the town is
that you get a tax benefit farm write off on all your taxes. That's the only thing that filing for a 61A or anything through town will do prior to that. But if he has the correct forms that it's a
farm, he has the right to farm it because it's a right to farm community. But he does not have the right to clear wetland. >> It's that's not relevant. The land according to him has not been cleared from what I seen. The pigs do eat brush
and stuff. Aaron has been more than willing to do anything he can. I actually had the pleasure of going out today with them. We took some soil samples of our own and everywhere upwind up on that area came up to be all upland
soils. very lonely soils from what's observant the dark coloration we went down what excuse me are you hold on hold on I have my right to speak down closer to the other side if you want to look at this picture it is clearly shown that ever source made it they didn't do it
but this is all the pad work and everything they're doing right there >> all the way >> Jim it's not an argument it's just to be observant and to take it into consideration >> they did have match the whole thing matted correct Okay. So, it has been is
being used as >> uh he did not personally destroy anything and I just don't see it having any grounds to be go any further. Period. Me personally. >> That's your personal opinion. >> Okay. So, we're going by your personal opinion and you're asking for it to go
further. >> You're saying that you had >> professional information given you today? >> Yes, I did. >> And what was the source of that information? I was asked not to talk about it, but I have had the information. >> I'm sorry. I can't accept that.
>> Um, you don't have to accept it. Okay. You can do your own research and find out for yourself. If you have an official and if you look at official mapping, if you look at I don't know why you guys are questioning me. All I'm doing is presenting what I have and I
feel about it. It doesn't I'm not asking you for your permission. I'm not asking you to tell me that I can or I cannot feel the way I feel. All I'm doing is to take into consideration the facts that were in front of me and that are in front of everybody else and we can all
make maybe a decision that has not go forward with spending money on a botist or having him spend money on anything. It was a simple misunderstanding. The gentleman has gone over and beyond to take his equipment out of there, put the
hay down on the road. He didn't destruct anything like Eversource has that's clearly in this paper taken today. I just don't feel there's any grounds to go any further. Maybe we should just tell him please do not go in there for a certain amount of time, but there's no
reason to go on further action than that. If he decides that he doesn't want to listen to us and he decides to go out there and start trenching and destroying wetland habitat, then I think it gives us grounds to move forward and to be going through that. But as of today with
all the work and everything that's been going on in there, I just don't really feel that he is responsible for it. And like he was saying, what are we going to have to go by? Eversource's work. Eversource didn't do the project. Eversource subbed all that work out to
other companies. So did you call five companies? >> They did the inspection. Eversource did the inspection. >> Okay. Like I'm saying, excuse me. Hold on a second. I am putting this to rest right now. I'm putting this to rest. We can work with the gentleman. Maybe we can work with the gentleman and we don't
have to go further into a deeper hole. >> Okay. We can't vote on that tonight, >> but we can't just say we going to bring him to the next meeting and do all kinds of things either. >> Ask what are your intentions in that in that area? >> My intentions my intentions were to farm. That's why I filed to the USDA. I
was going to have some animals, some livestock. That was it. >> I didn't go in there maliciously dig anything. I didn't even go I didn't leave the access road with my machine. That's a road there. I did not leave that with my machine. And Jim was saying I'm not a farm because I'm not chapter
61. Chapter 61 is just for taxes. I have all the paperwork right here. I was going to Can I show it to you to chance? >> Well, the whole problem is is way we have you on the agenda. We can't vote on nothing. >> So, you can show it to say it's not moving forward. >> Well, you're saying next time that I
have to go and you know hire a botist. >> We can't vote on a botist. We can't vote on it. We can't bring it up. My own personal opinion. I feel you should put a button in there. Okay, that's my opinion. >> But can I show you some stuff or no? >> But we can't vote on it. You can show it to me. We can't vote on it. That's all I'm saying.
>> So they don't have to come back. It makes no sense. >> Where do we go from here? So >> I can distribute that to all commission members at a later date. >> Show email it to all of us. Show email it to all of us. >> And then >> I mean unless I explain it, you're not really going to even know what it is.
So, I I I have I do have one qu question based upon um one of the photos that we did receive. Yeah. >> I noticed up in the back here looks to me like an 18-wheeler dumping something. >> 18. >> Yeah.
18. >> Yeah. Do you see the name on it? >> No. >> It says Riley. Riley Brothers. >> That's the rose. >> I don't see anything real there. >> What's that? It says Riley Brothers. You can look at Why don't we give that to
him so he can look at it, too? It's a Riley truck. >> Oh, that's Riley in the very back. That's my truck. Put wood chips there to get the thing uh the container out. >> You got a piece of equipment in there. >> Is it Where is Where's the piece of equipment? >> It's on the road. >> It's on the road. It's on the road.
>> On the access road. Yeah. >> I I I just That's me pulling my fence out. the gate that I had in front of the containers with that machine. If you look at that machine, it's not in the wetlands. It's on the access truck along with that truck. I put wood chips down
so it didn't sink. And the only reason why I was pulling it out in this season was because Ever told me I had to get it out of there. >> Right. Cuz it's ement. >> What? >> It's their easement. That's why >> it's my property. >> I have in my deed right here
permission from Eversource to use the property. Do you want this one? >> Yeah. Give them >> anything you want. I got a whole bunch of stuff. You have the one that says >> So, my next question is why would the leaves Why would the leaves cover? >> Because I told Julia
>> when I said, "All right, I'm Eva. Let me get my stuff out. I'll get it out." And I'm going to put exactly how they had it. >> All I did was put leaves back where they were. >> I put the straw. When Evasource took all the swamp mats out, I took um straw and I put it the same way they did. They brought a truck in, they dumped it on
there, and that was it. That's how they left it. >> It was to develop. >> I I would say the the the reason we have this on this agenda this way was just to >> Yeah. Are you going to hire a guy for not? >> Well, we're going to put on the next agenda, then they can make the decision
then. >> Well, no, we can't because the the cease and desist letter that was already given out is already given a December 10th December 10th date. So technically it's not even on this agenda, is it? >> It just came up as agent updates is what
it was. >> The paperwork that I just gave her is the right to farm and nowhere on there does it say I need uh 61A. And if I look at my zoning, I have a copy of the zoning map right
here somewhere in there. So the two boxes were put in the wetlands, I believe. But we don't know, right? So let's do this. >> And now the only >> Can we just do this if you don't mind? We're going to take and review everything that you submitted tonight. Joanne will give it to us. We'll bring
you back on December 10th. We'll discuss what we're going to do and we'll be able to vote on it >> and then we'll handle it that evening. >> Okay. >> All right. I'll give her anything you have, give her cuz then she will send it out. I will read it. I know everyone else will. We'll review it all.
>> I wish I knew that before I made six copies of it. >> Oh, you you want to hand it out and we'll just take it. We won't review it tonight, but we won't take it. >> I only made six copies of a few things and the rest is just my notes and >> so does she have everything that you want us to review? >> No.
>> What else do you need? I mean, what else do you want to give us? >> Uh the zoning map. >> Do you want to email? What is that? >> You have the six You have the six copies, right? >> Not the zoning. I only have the one of the My friends are renting today. Why don't you do this up there? >> Erin, why don't you do this? You got
Joanne's email? >> I do not, but I'm sure I can buy. >> I can give it to you. >> Y and then what you do is email everything you want us to look at. >> Okay. >> We'll look at it. We'll bring you in in December 10th and we'll go from there. >> All right. >> I think that's fair. >> I'll give her whatever hot copies I have right now because like I said, some of
the stuff I highlighted to see like, you know, the right to farm one, they cite a mass general law that says you don't need any special permits for farming. >> Yeah. And my zoning map, this one says I am zoned uh 3.3.1
residents RA permitted uses agriculture and aquaculture. >> So >> So just so you know, even a farm can't upset wetlands. >> I know, but like you said, I admit to it. The only thing I did was if that is wetlands,
which I don't know if it is, the only thing I did was put two containers in there and that was it. I did not bring a machine in there. So, I'm going to tell you if we dig anything, >> just so you know, a botness ain't real expensive for what you got there. >> So, if we have to get a botist just to see what you own, we might do it. And then it's going to let you know what you
own also. What do you mean? >> We can't just make that decision. >> We're not making He's going to give you the option to hire a B. >> What do you mean to for what I own for the property? So, let's go. This, like I said, we'll review everything you have. We'll discuss this again December 10th and we can vote, decide what we want to
do. >> I appreciate that. I'm just asking what the last thing you said about me owning was. >> So, you own the property. Yeah. >> Right. So, if a bartness goes in there, they're going to tell you what's wet land and what's not. Then you're going to know plain and simple. >> Okay. >> All right. >> Well, I really don't.
>> All right. And I'll I'll explain it to you at a later test. >> All right. >> It's not a big deal. >> I understand the whole part of that. It's just I don't want to, you know, the whole area that I can never even >> hopefully on December 10th, we can all come to a agreement and an understanding where we don't have to go any further.
is in my hopes and that we can get through this like gentlemen and just don't put no containers in there. >> That's the That's >> all right. That's cool. >> I was trying to do everything by the letter of the law. >> We'll talk on December 10th. >> Yeah. >> Thank you, Erin. And thank you to the board for reconsidering.
>> Have a good evening, guys. Very good. >> Yeah. So, just email Rick to me there. If you want to speak to Julia, that's her that's her email, too. You can you can cover both of us if you'd like. >> All right. >> And send us as much as you have. I mean, whatever's burning. Whatever is pertinent, just send it. Okay. >> Absolutely. And we'll go from there.
>> All six of these. >> No. If you take them back if you No. No. All right. No. No. I'm gonna send all this. I'm gonna scan and then I'll send this. Send me. What day do you want to have a date to send me the stuff so I know I can send it to them all at once? >> Can you do it like before Wednesday?
Hey, >> leave it Wednesday at 11:30. >> You want to try to keep cop? I would suggest you keep copies of everything. There you >> some stuff that like that right there. I did print six, but I'll see what I have that I can get. >> So, what I'll do, too, is once I scan it all in, I'll kind >> have everything I gave them. Is that
fair? >> Yeah. >> Okay, >> that works better. That way, I can >> Okay. So, try if you can try to get it to me cuz this week's a short week, so we're only there on Wednesday. >> Yeah, I already have all the stuff. >> Okay. So, just email it to me and I'll scan. I'll I don't even have to scan it. I can just forward the email to them and
I'll and I'll have a copy of you. >> Everything you have. Thank you. To make it work. >> All right. Five Tilly Way was not involved at all. Correct. >> Yes. >> Correct. Okay. 7 Tilly Way. Um >> Julia. >> So, um we went out there and saw what
looked like a possible wetland violation. Um I took a look at the plans for 7 Tilly Way. And what I noticed was different on the plans versus what we saw was that um there is a shed built there close to the wetlands that are not
on the plans um that I saw. And there is also a few trees cut down um that appear to be in the wetlands. There's a stone wall kind of blocking off the wetlands and the trees are beyond that. >> And I also didn't see that on the plan. So that's what I saw. >> Isn't this the one that Paul
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. Didn't Paul asked that we didn't I relayed the message to the both. Paul would asked that we wouldn't >> Yeah. She's still telling us as we can't vote on it. We can't discuss it. But she can tell us what she saw and that's all she's doing. You're right. But not no
let me continue. Paul asked that we do not conversate about the subject until that's why he wanted the continuance to have this continued for a month until he's out of surgery. >> Well, this is an agent update. It's not nothing except for her telling what she saw. We're not voting on nothing. We're
not saying nothing. So, she's just telling us what she saw. >> Okay. Okay. I'm just telling you what I was told and asked by >> that they were not put um did you give them a date certain on their letter >> um >> on there's a letter
>> yeah the letter is in there cuz I don't quite remember >> I haven't looked at the letters >> this is what >> Oh yes I told them um December 10th >> all right that's probably not going to work from what I understand.
>> No, he asked him for at least January. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Yeah. >> At least a month. >> I've got the communication that he um would like to come back. We're going to plan for January 14th. >> Okay. Sounds good. All right. Other businesses. Um any other business that may properly
come before the commission not reasonably anticipated when posting 48 hours prior to the meeting. Did >> you say 14th? >> January 14th, 2026. Yes. >> Did you email that to him? I can email to who? To Eric. >> No, to uh >> Mr. Mojo.
>> Yeah. >> Oh, okay. >> If you don't mind. >> Sure. >> Um, future business, the next meeting of the conservation commission will be on December 10th. Meeting will be held at the town hall meeting room located at 122 Main Street to Kush at Mass. With
that being said, I'd like to entertain a motion that we adjourn this meeting. Motion to adjourn the meeting. Second. >> All those in favor? I. Heat. Heat.