[Music] This public hearing is now called to order at 6:00 p.m. This hearing is being held as a requirement of the provisions of chapter 131 section 40 of the general laws of the commonwealth and act
relative to protect to the protection of the wetlands as most recently amended. Notice the time and place of this hearing was published in the haven neighborhood news on July 17, 2025. It was also posted in the town's clerk's office. This meeting is being held uh is
being audioed and videotaped. Person wishing to be held will be called in the following order. Motion to open public meeting. Motion second. Second. All those in favor? I. All right. Minutes for approval.
No meeting now. Do we have any? Nope. And old business. So with that being said, continue public hearing request for an amended order of condition. Applicants SA Park Drive LLC owner Whites Farm
Incorporated Fox Drive SE00001-0553 a request for an amendment to an existing order of condition was filed by Copper Park Drive LLC for property located off Pock Drive Map 17 lot 22B13. The applicant proposes to install a
solar photovol array consisting of 4,999 kWS and battery storage project within 100t buffer zone water wetland revisions include wetland crossing areas and land flagging. The applicant is represented
by Wesson and Samson engineers. Planning is park drive solar PV development dated December 10th 2020. Revised plan is dated March 20, 2025. Review matters presented. Vote may be taken. Applicant requested in
continuance to the August 27th, 2025 meeting. I'd like to entertain a motion to open the continued public hearing. Motion have a second. Second. All those in favor I. I. And now I would like to entertain a motion to continue it to the set date unless the
someone has a question. No. Motion to continue. Second. Do you have some? No. No. No. I'm good. Okay. No. All right. August. Do I have a second? Second. 27th. Yes. No. That's right. No. 27. All right. So, I can entertain a motion to continue. Do I have a second?
Second. All those in favor? I Okay. Republic and Nanoi Clemway Solar LLC co wild renewable uh LLC 1094 Main Street, map 715 SE00001-607.
A notice of intent was filed by Zachary Fax for property located at 1094 Main Street, map 71 15. The applicant proposes to construct a ground mounted solar array and open fields and forested land. The work proposes within bordering vegetative wetland bank land underwater
bodies and waterways and bordering land subject to flooding as well as the 100 foot puffer zone to bordering vegetative wetlands campaign. The applicator is represented by Syra and Thomas Incorporated name is Clear Project 1094
Main Street Christian Mass dated June 11th 2025. Review M presented. I'd like to entertain a motion to open up the public hearing. Motion to open public hearing. Second. All those in favor I
commission for record on behalf of um introducing the project formally. Um know it's been before this board and tech board committee meetings in the town many times. Um, we're considering a solar project development on the 58
approximately acre parcel located just off Main Street, approximately 1094 Main Street, a little bit north of the private way known as Clems Way. Um, the parcel currently hosts some landscaping contracting days at the Main Street side of property. And then just across a
small intermittent stream, uh you'll find two hay fields as well as a young growth pot at the rear of the parcel. Also hosted on the parcel is a gear park. Can you speak up just a little bit for us, please? Along the parcel is a
mobile home park with approximately 40 pads plus or minus um that are along either side of Clem's Way on the southern side of the parcel. Um the solar project development is in total about 15 acres with about 5 acres at
each site. Kind of three arrays on the property, one on each hay field and then one in the back lot. Um so to date we have been in front of this board in March of 2024 presenting an ANRAD um which is a delineation and location of
the weapons on site. this board issued its ORAD um just a couple months later in June of 2024 which locked in the wetlands allowed us to set our setbacks from those wetlands and start working on our development area. Um in October of 24 we had a question about the stream.
Um we came in and we had the the stream confirmed as intermittent by this board through a determination of applicability. And then um we had our TRC meeting uh technical review committee meeting with members of this board, planning board, police, fire,
board of health, etc. um to discuss kind of the initial plan set. And then finally formally um submitted applications for a site plan review and special permit to the planning board and for a notice of intent and storm water permit to this board. Um so here we are
opening up the hearing. Uh we're also fortunate enough to have received the peerreview letter today from Bill Madden and company at GAF Engineering. Um I won't speak for Bill. Um the the peerreview letter just came in this afternoon. So I don't expect everyone's fully digested it. But the basic summary
is there's a fair amount of technical comments that he'd like to see us revise on the plan set. But in general from my perspective, there's nothing materially that's concerning Bill. And my expectation is prior to the next meeting, um I believe it's the 13th of August, we should get through a full
plan set and storm water plan iteration with Bill. And my hope is that we can resolve his comments uh prior to the next conservation commission meeting. If you recall, we were uh worked extensively with Bill on the Middle Road project. Um really really focusing on storm water for that project. So, a lot
of the lessons learned um have carried over to this plan set and we've seen a much lighter uh much lighter pattern from GF engineering on this one this far. So, my goals tonight beyond introducing this project are simply to answer any questions from the public and
um continue until peer review is complete. With that being said, um I just want to know I did end up reading those today. Yep. I don't see anything major. I see some things they have to do with
the plans and get everything up to speed that they want. Um I didn't see anything like really like that was thrown a stone at us. Um it actually looked pretty good. Um I know that we've walked this site many many times. We've been there for the A-B. We've been there for wells.
We've been there for a lot of different things. So, we know the site pretty well. Um, with that being said, if you guys have any questions, um, go right ahead and ask away. Anyone from the public, go right ahead. Come right up, please.
Can you please come up? Hi. Hi. So, I know you've seen me before. You still going to say your name and everything? I'm Deborah Perry. Um, we own the property that of us this project um at
1122 Main Street. I do have a lot of questions. Um, so one question I have has to do with the connectivity issue. There has been major flooding over there when we've had main major rain before. I have a picture of
the flooding that has gone through that whole area. So, one of the questions I have is if this does go forward, which I guess is already decided, then how is that going to be handled in terms of the of the flooding that happens in that field
there because I have a video of it on my phone? And I did send a picture to the committee. So, I'm wondering how that's going to be called in terms of the solar. Um I know that there's a lot of um
a lot of safety issues in place for that when the solar farms go in. And my main concern I guess about that is that you know since this project has been going on um and you know the plans have
been being made about this um I want some kind of of reassurance of accountability because I know a lot of things have gone forward without permits. Um, so I'm wondering um what the
conservation is committee is going to do to be certain that there is going to be accountability for safety and protection and and that things are going to be followed through properly because land has been cleared. Uh things have been
done without any permits. Um I'm wondering what's going to happen in terms of keeping that running properly so that it is um done the proper way and protocols are
met if the project does go through to keep it safe. Um that's one concern that I have. So you want me to address each concern because here's the truth, right? No one on this board right here is an engineer at all. And that's why we took
that project and say, "Okay, here we go. We want to send this out for peer review." So we're doing we're having some of the best engineers look at this. They're making their recommendations. They're doing all the calculations and it's by the plan is what they have to go by. So as long as our peer review said
that those plans are good, the construction is good, everything should be exactly what is presented. I don't feel that our peer review or our engineer that we told them that they had to hire is going to let this happen
where it gets flooded or the cops weren't done right. Um I know that the the engineer firm that we did is also the ones that was on peer review for Navison which was nothing but a major headache. And um this guy is also doing 211 uh main uh middle road. Um he is not
holding back. He 100% is looking out for the interests of the residents and the towns on this project. So I feel very confident that he is going to do his best to make sure that is nothing is altered from what is being said or being
done. Oh, Mr. Chairman, go ahead. Um, Mr. Fox, could you address that at at all her concerns with storm water uh as far as how you're going to handle and and treat that? Absolutely. So, to what the chairman
said, I I echo that we are not asking for any waiverss or any um exceptions to the storm water control standards of the state of Massachusetts or the storm water bylaw requirements of the town of Aushnet. Um Mr. Madden from GAF Engineering is holding us to a high
standard and we're going to continue to iterate those plans until they meet or exceed his requirements. Um, further, we're required to build exactly to the plan set. We will not receive an order of completion until that plan set has been stamped by a licensed engineer and
surveyor confirming that we built the project properly. I'm not really concerned about how you build it. I'm concerned about the maintenance of it, I guess, is is what my point was. And my other my other concern is um there's a species of
special concern that lives in that in that wetland. There's a box turtle or there were box turtles that lived in there um or live in there. Um there's a there was a herring going through there
which I thought meant that that was not an intermittent um stream. Um we had sent a letter at one point to the the fisheries about that um before the pandemic. Um there's also a river otter
that lives in there. So I thought that the um you know the whole point of having that buffer zone was to protect all those creatures that live in there. And and so the fact that all these places keep
pushing that buffer zone further and further and further, I don't really understand, I guess, and I I hope somebody will help me to understand this, the point of having that buffer zone and having that wetland protection act if
we're going to keep moving it further and further to make it easier and easier for people to put solar farms and whatever else in there. What is the What is the point? I guess I don't really understand. Help me understand. Well, I'd like to say one thing on that.
Okay. They went and they gave us um a wetland a delineation light with that. We hired Bill to do an aircraft. Bill went over there and actually shrunk that site. He said that this flag is not right. We want it further in the field. This here we want further in the field.
So, they didn't exceed the wetlands. If anything, Bill narrowed it up. GF the the company that we said to go there and do an as do the in red for us he went there and actually shrunk that site he said no I don't believe in this flag I want it closer I don't believe in this
flag so it was all red delineated by the peer review we did now we all agree on it right so now that we agree on it it's actually tighter standards than what it was in the beginning am I correct by saying that we started off at approximately 20 acres of total
development area now we're closer to And so just to to compound what was said, we're not changing any of the wetland lines or the areas. We're just operating within the buffer area for some of the project. And that area, that jurisdictional area and the wetlands
protection act and this board is just being studied and being reviewed to a higher standard than the upland areas. We're not changing any buffer areas. We're not pushing any buffer areas. I thought we already moved the part of that part of that waterway was already
moved. That was my understanding at the last meeting that we went to. Was that not correct? That part of the waterway was already moved. Mr. Soua, I know I'm not being said. I have notes in here that says part of the waterway was already rerouted. Is that when the mosquitoes run through?
Cuz I know that the state went in there, I believe. Am I right about saying that? Is that the state? They dig they dig a new trench. Over the past 2 or 3 years, it was it's probably a little bit before before that working on this project. There's been a fair amount of activity
on the site. Some, as you accurately say, was was done by our our land owner who was what he would say preparing for the project to come in. He spoke with chairman Rosendi and other man uh members of this board and stopped all work. any work that's happened has there
was one incident where county mosquito came in and did a little bit of adjustment but I don't think it was material so that when the county came in for the mosquito thing everything I was like I didn't believe it 100% I didn't believe it I called and I talked to them directly we had an issue as a board we
had an issue with where they put a bunch of stumps and stuff it was right we thought was right through two wetland flags we were very upset as a board when we went to our site visit when I came back after that site I visit I started making phone calls. I got a hold of the state. That was the state that did it.
Um they have the right to do it. They don't have to come before the commission. They thought it was the best place where they stored all those stumps and everything. They pushed it there. They the ones who put it there. They wanted them to rot away. Um at that point, we like I said, we went for the site visit. We weren't comfortable. But
I did do my homework and research it and make sure that no one was saying a fifth, right? Um, I'm not saying anyone's going to lie to us, but we wanted to make sure what someone said is, "Well, we didn't do it. Someone else did it." So, I did the homework on that and it was 100% true. It was that uh I
call it the mosquito squad. I guess you can call it whatever you want, but they went in there and they cleared it. They pushed all the stumps in that spot that we thought was not cool. Um, they did a lot of work right along the river. They're the ones who cut some of the big pines down. Um, so there was a lot done
by that state that went in there. uh going forward just so you know for now on they're not just going to do that for now on they're going to get a hold of us so we know what's going on right so I don't have to do the homework we're going to go to the site meet with them um it's something that I think we're
really going to learn more on but it's also something that we now look at something a lot easier so instead of us getting mad we go on the site we can say hey listen they were here this is why they did that just like the turtle thing we don't regulate that that's all state it's not in our jurisdiction iction. Um,
I know Christian and I have been on a couple site visits for the turtle things. So, we're learning about it, but it's not in our jurisdiction. Um, that's something that's totally state, but we are learning about it so we know going forward. All right. So, if there's any turtle issue or anything, I think that's
them have applying for the permit to the state. Yep. Just while you're talking about state and federal listed species, we've already completed our coordination with United States Fish and Wildlife at the federal level as well as natural heritage at the state level and mass historical society. So those are kind of
the three major checks we do for species, animal and plant as well as historical features. So that's part of our initial site discovery and diligence on the site along with wetlands along with setting the lines so we can understand and define what the
developable area is and that as chairman Souza said shrunk considerably from our initial expectations for what we're going to do on the site because of them being there. Is that what you No, the it was actually negative determinations from historical and both
federal and state species. Well, I have pictures of them in the water there. So, yep. I'm just I'm letting you know that we've gone through that process. The major um setback changes were due to updates based on local bylaws, local storm water as well as the final delineated weapons that
were more or less in the end, excuse me. So, how is it negative if they if they are existing there? I mean, you can come in my yard and see them. So, how is it negative that they're not there? I'm imagining them to be there or there are
the the state natural heritage program has a criteria by which they protect land or they add additional take requirements to land. It's not required for this person. So Deb if they go through all the right steps and that's what it is they have to
go through steps right so it's up to the state to say well yes we have to look into this or we don't or we feel this is comfortable. It's not up to the engineer. the engineer can only go for the permits, right? They can only apply. They can let them know what they're
doing. Um I know that, you know, it's it's a lot of people ain't into the solar fields. Um it's property that we can't regulate. Um and it's the owner's property, right? They have the right to do what they want. We just have to make sure they try to comply and do the best possible. When we went out there, we
didn't believe exactly 100% the wetlands. We had an ANRAD done. So we've taken as a members of this board, we've taken our steps to make sure that they are doing everything correctly and right down to the storm water. We didn't sit here and review their storm water. We
don't want to. We want to give it to a professional to an engineer that is going to go through it with a fine tooth comb and tell us, hey, it looks good. It don't look good. And they're going to let him know what he has to do to make it look good. So, we're doing as much as we can and we're covering it as much as
we can to make sure that when this goes forward, it's going to be done 100% correctly. Well, I appreciate you letting me speak. It's very frustrating from a from a in a point of view. I have contacted, by the way, all those agencies and said, you
know, these animals are here, these creatures are here. I have photos of them. I'm not making it up in my head. Obviously, I took pictures of them. We've seen you. Yeah. And you know, all I can think of is that song like, "Bless the beast and their children in
this world. They have no choice. They have no voice. We're their voice. I feel like I'm their voice." And you know, further along, it's frustrating to see people I was the one that called police when they were there chopping down the trees with no
permit right on the land abing me. So, I don't have a lot of confidence that they're going to do things the proper way. I understand that you're all trying to do what you need to do, but I have zero confidence that you're going to do things the right way. Zero. That's how I feel. And I'm entitled to feel the way I
do. I feel like once you get out there and you start the project, all the rails are off and you're going to do whatever you want. Maybe not you personally, but the project itself, I don't feel like they're going to maintain it, right? I feel like my property is going to be flooded. The
value of my property is going to go down. That's my whole investment for my retirement. I feel like all those little creatures are going to be at risk. And I feel like it's just a commentary on everything that's happening in in humanity.
So that's and and then we wonder why coyotes and everything else are coming into people's yards cuz there's no place for them to go. So that's how I feel about it. If I may, I appreciate letting us speak. I can relate to it's heartbreaking to
see the land use change. I can relate to what you're saying. But as the chairman said, our hands are tied to a degree where we can't dictate to the property owner what what he can do with his property.
But rest assured, we are going to review everything that's done. And we're going to minimize the impact on the wetlands and the habitat because the wetlands will still be in place once the project is complete. And it
shouldn't be a a huge impact on the habitat. And I and I can relate to what you I do what you say. Thank you. My name is Kevin Pat. I live on Robinson Road. And I guess my question is why do
we even need to let them work in the buffer zone? That land is so large. The project is so large. Why do you need to go there? It It doesn't make any sense. So, it's their right to work within the limits of the state regulations.
Isn't it your right to tell them no? We We have to abide by the state regulations. We just can't say, "Well, we don't feel like letting you work in the buffer zone. They have protected. They have state regulations they have to go by. Period. And they have to follow the state regulations." His blueprints
are going to show exactly how far from the wetlands, what they're disturbing, what they're not disturbing. His blueprint is like gold. So if we all we can do is make sure he follows it 100%. Whether we send the engineer there mid construction, whatever we do, the only
thing we can say is that their plan is being reviewed. With their plan being reviewed, that is the goal that we set. They have to follow those plans. As long as they follow those plans, everything should work that our engineer says, that their engineer says, that all the
buildings, construction guys that are building it, everything should work according to the plan. And if it does, I don't think we're going to have issues. That's that's great. However, it started out wrong by them putting their flags in the wrong spot. So already step one.
Yeah. Step one was already a falsehood for us that they were already cheating the system of the flags. Number two, the land owner went on there and redesigned the whole land before he went in there, moved stuff around, do what he wanted to do without any permits
or anything he was supposed to do. So it's only two strikes before the project even started. Now we're going to allow him to cross the wetlands and do other things in there. I I really have a lack of trust the same way my neighbor does that things will be
done properly and I think as soon as I you might show up and look and as soon as you turn your back and walk away they're going to say crank up the stuff and go they'll never get a CC you'll never be able to turn it on right they'll never be able to turn it on they've already done what they want it
doesn't matter if someone does what they want and it's not according to the plan and we have a place to go about it we can get our engineer there and say, "Okay, it wasn't built a plan. We want this taken out. We want this done right." And they have to hold to it. That's great. But I don't understand why
we need to let them cross the wetlands and work in the buffer zones and things like that. It was really difficult to hear what he was saying cuz he was kind of talking really slow so that only you could hear about a third of what he had to say and it sound like it work.
I don't understand why we need to let them do that cuz that's a protected area to actually serve a purpose. It has a purpose. We should let it serve its purpose and they can redesign their stuff so that they're not going into the buffer zone. Period.
And they're not crossing the wetlands. Period. Okay. So, if we took and and I'm just going to be right up with this. If we took and said no one could ever work in the buffer zone in the cushion, guess what? Nothing would get done in the cushion. There's state laws and state regulations that we go by and that's
just like any engineer can grab that book and say okay we have the legal right to do this. We have the legal right to do this and if they draw the plans and show it to us and it's all within the WPA act. We cannot say no it's what they can do. So it's all about
the state regulations. All we're doing is making sure it is done by the state regulations. The other thing you're saying is that they put the wetlands flags and on purpose in the wrong spot. I don't believe so. I really don't cuz there's some flags that were only 3 or 4 ft apart from our engineer. So that
everyone's was real close. There was one section that I know that Bill M said for sure. No, this is getting changed 100%. So it's every can be a little different too, right? But if we don't believe it, we're going to say we want it redated. And that's our job to say we don't
believe it. We're going to get redineated. So we did that. We said if we did an ANRAD, we've done so many visits on that site already. It's like crazy, right? And you're right. The first one was a complaint about someone clearing trees. Then we did other site visits for a well that's going in. We've
done site visits for the ANRAD. We've done sites for the original um wetland flags, right? So, we've been out there 100 times. Not 100, but we've been out there a lot. And what we said is we're not engineers. Here you go. Use this guy. Get him over there. and he's going to tell us what's
right and what's wrong. So, we're not sitting here guessing. We're using a peerreview engineer to tell us what is right, what is wrong, what the problems they see in their plans. And that's why the plan is so important because if they
deviate from the plan and our engineer sees that at the build, they don't have to go back and change it just like they did at Nison. Navson wasn't the blueprints that were wrong. It was the construction that was wrong. So that's all we can do is go by what we have the ability to do
and that's being left right out and say it like it is. It just doesn't seem right that there's rules in place and they're just negated. No, they're not being negated. They're being enforced however you want it to be. It's like the the the field over
here by country highway. Every time it rains it floods out all the property. Okay. going to happen. I will let you borrow this book. You can read it. You can see it. And then you'll be able to determine what to do. But we have state regulations. This book is what we go by.
So these state regulations that are in here is what they use. That's exactly what you am I right? This is exactly what this is what everybody uses. When you go for I don't care if it's a single president. You have to still go by what this rules are in this book. We enforce
these rules. We make sure the rules are being done correctly. We don't care if it's a solar, a development, a single resident, whatever it is. This is our right hand. We raise our right hand for this book right here. And that's what we're trying to do is do what we can to make sure things are done correctly.
Minimize the impact. Minimize the impact. You know, you didn't come home the other day to what we came home to with all our chickens slaughtered. They're working on this stuff. Never had it before they started out.
All the chickens. No eggs. Did that push down destroy all around? They have to go somewhere. It's still by the state regulations though. And I want to keep emphasizing that. I've got a solar field on one side
of me. Now we have a soul field on the other side of me. When is enough enough? Okay. On the edge of the soul field. Yes. Is your house in the buffer zone? No, not at all. None of your property. You're within 100 ft away from
everything. Entire 40 acres. Oh, yeah. Very good. So, all I'm saying is we have to make sure we were way outside of that for everything, but apparently sol within the buffer zone. Developments go within the buffer zone. There's
regulations they have to follow. I remember put a house in for his son two houses down. and he was stopped. Well, that's a totally different issue. Right now, we're dealing with uh the rules aren't the same for everyone is what I'm trying to rules are right here. These
are the rules. But I have no idea what happened to that neighbor's son or whatever. I it ain't before us right now. The only thing before us right now is this whole field on Clemway. And that's what we have to discuss right now. If you want to keep it on that, that's it. But not I think we've drug
this fat further down the road. What we've seen, what everyone's seen with the multiple meetings we've gone to is that the the trust is like that much that things will be done the way they should be because it started off bad and
it's just continuing. And I don't know that it will ever get to a point that we can actually feel like, oh, they did a good job and look, it doesn't flood and and everything is great. Well, the other thing is we can talk to uh we can talk to the engineer that's building this and say, "Hey, listen, we want to do a a
one-/3 um site visit with the engineer without peer review. Let him go make sure things are being built correctly." But we just can't sit back and say, "You can't do that because they have to go by this. They're using this for the state regulations." You know, I hear your frustrations,
frustration, and lack of trust. Well, hopefully this one turns on and I don't really feel that there's a trust that we do feel good about this. Well, all I can say is I'm hoping this one changes changes everything. I really don't. I hope it's going right once it's done.
It's too late. No, it isn't too late. And I want you to say it's not. That's not true. That's not true. But it's trying to not correct. It's not going to be, oh, you did it wrong. So, next week we're going to fix that. There's going to be years and years and years and we
have one on Main Street that had went through this. They didn't build it according to their plan and then the structures didn't work. So we sent our engine out there. They spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to put it back to the original plan because to rectify it because it was not working. So with that
being said, they spent hundreds of thousands of dollars willingly to put it according to the plan. Well, it probably wasn't willingly is because you told me you needed to. The reason for they will not willingly said we have to fix it but they had to do it because you told them
they had to fix it to cheat in the beginning why they were caught. So how many people are doing this and hoping I'm not going to get caught? But that's why we're here. We're making sure that things are done correctly. With that being said, sir, I I I really we don't
have a minute thing on our thing, but I think we've dragged this further enough and you have to realize that everybody is using this state book is what they go by. It's just just wanted to frustration as to what's going on.
Can we see exactly where they're going to be placing this? We don't really know. Do you have a plan with you? I do for the presentation that I can prepare. because anybody like my my land's right there and I have a septic system that's right right there that I had to build almost a mile down
because you're welcome to I don't want that to bother my sac information I know the conservation commission has all the available like I So, excuse me, ma'am. Could you come to
the podium? I'd like to talk to you anyways. If you don't mind, please say your name. I have to use what I have here. My name is Kathleen Bar. I live on 76 Road. Um, that's my brother. Okay.
And, um, we both have like 30 35 acres of land over there. Okay. So I was talking with peer review. Um one of the thing that peer review suggested before we go for our site visit is he wants stakes to see where the where the pension's going cuz
everything goes with inside the fencing. Right. So um this is another thing though I don't I don't put it on it exact but I think we should have it is if they put some stakes where the fencing is going to go right and then everything goes with inside the fences.
Right. So, if you're willing to give your email or whatever to Zach when that gets done, we can let you know exactly. You can take a look yourself and say, "Okay, there's the fencing. Everything's in inside of it." Just because you borrow it, it doesn't mean it's going
right up against the property. So, that's why I'm saying I don't even know if it's 100 ft from where my land is. I don't know if it's 6 in from Well, that's why I think if we do put some states out to just on the fence line and then if anyone gets a hold of
him and says I'd like to see it before construction sites, I don't think you have anything that has clean designed it so that because of the so it's literally
right up on that wall, that same wall that is on. So, I worry about that if that's going to fly, that's going to be a super for deal. So, I know that like I said, peer review has gone over this room. I think
if um if uh Zachary gets stage put out where the fences are, I know that you want to see the drones. Nobody wants to have anybody. You know, I think we have so many that's just a whole separate issue. I'm
going to take and have Zachary and myself and you go right to the party right now. Zack, I have a plan. If you just kind of maybe help her out a little bit and just show her where it is to her property. I know this is tough. It's not a big plan, but it might be something just to help the public here a little
bit. So, this is main three. This is main three right here. There's the all the park. This is the field right here. The solar project is within the field. This is the instrument stream that runs here. The setbacks from all
these little dots are the wetland flags that were so back here. Y. Oh, this way. Yeah, this way. This way. So, this way. back have the right hook up for this screen is hard.
I think it's more a concern probably going to be you know you know it's it's a solar farm you know and we have so many of them you know with the dispos
our um our investment our property. So this is why we bring these concerns, you know, and if we knew how far away from our property lines they were, meaning it's not going to be a point that we're upset.
Excuse me one second. We have the planning board here, the chairman of the planning board. They still have to come in front of us just to answer one of the questions that you just brought up. Before they complete, they have to put money in an account. So after the 20
years, whatever the amount of time, that money is used to put that entire solar field back to its original, it will not be a junkyard. It won't be left behind. They when they're done with their project and the project is complete,
they can they can change it out and put new panels and continue up to the land, the owner of the property. But to think that it's going to just expand it and it's going to be junk, it's not. And there's supervision, there's monies, there's accounts money
put aside to take care of that in in future cash growth. That's good. That's good that we know that it's just not going to be abandoned after the, you know, the life of this project and it has to be updated or discarded, which is great. But yeah,
still would like to know how far I am from where your plans are. And and my brother lives like right next door, so then he's going to be able to see that too, you know. But yeah, we you know, we have pretty concern, you know.
Thank you, M. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Anyone else in the public? Okay. With that being said, I'd like to entertain a motion that this gets continued to August 13th meeting. So, for the site visit August 9th, I believe
you're in. Am I right by saying that? Okay. So, it'll be a site visit August 9th. Um, and the meeting will be August 13th. Zack, if you could have those states up just so we can see where the fence is going to be, we'd appreciate that. Not one more time. Uh, the 9th of August is the site. 9th of August is the site visit.
I don't know what time, but you're going to let you know what's going on and we'll go with that. We're going to say all right. Thank you very much. Um, entertain a motion to continue to the August 13th. Second.
All those in favor? I type. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Certificate of compliance. My friends 301 road D file number SE000010567
and storm water. A certificate of compliance was filed by my friends for property located at 301 hill road map 8 blocks 2525D 25 and 25. applicate improved approximately 600 28
ft of existing gravel roadway and construct approximately 525 ft of new gravel roadway construction of storm water wheels detention pond in fill in gray within the underfoot zone of bordering vegetated wetland stamp plan of wrecking final site inspection photos
863 2325 submitted with a letter from David Deion P of Incorporated something to say. I'm just here to answer any questions that the board might have. Oh, sorry. My
friends over. Um, the board has been out there. Uh, we all did this, uh, site visit last week. Uh, I'm just here to answer any questions that you might have. Um, I I asked for continuance uh a year or
so back uh to to finish the replication area. That's all been complete. Um, and you have the engineers back in front. Anything to pass say? Anyone from the public?
Okay. With that being said, um, I'd like to entertain a motion to accept a certificate of compliance along with the stamp letter from the engineer for file number SE00001-0567 and storm water permit. Sold.
All those girls hearing NIS style electric company DBA energy map 12 lot 22B 23B 23F s001-0608 notice of intent was filed by and
electric company DBA eversource energy map 12 lux 22B 23B 23F. The applicant proposes in place on approximately one mile overhead transmission line with existing ever source rightway number 142
between the men road substation in the Mapo town line. The applicant is represented by Jack Faro Faro. All right. Yeah. Okay. Faro um of Epsilon Associates plan name is line 112 wetland
replication area grading plan date May 12th 2025 review of matters presented votes may be taken I'd like to entertain a motion to open the public hearing so move do I got a second all those in favor it is yours thank you
Mr. chairman and members of the board. Thanks for having us. My name is James Clancy. I'm an environmental specialist with Eversource Energy. Here with me is Jack Vicar from Epsilon Associates, our environmental consultant on the project, and Eric Vasquez from Burns McDonald, the engineer um on the project, also
managing project management, and also Stephen, our um member with project services deals with community members. Um so, I'm going to go through the presentation we went through two weeks ago. I'll try to do a little quick especially cuz we were out on site on Saturday. So you guys have seen the
rightway in its whole. Um but so the project is a existing circuit extension, a transmission line circuit, a 115 KV and an existing um utility rightway that we do maintain currently. Um the
rightways width is uh mostly fully trimmed out. Um so there's no major tree trimming involved. Um, there's going to be some tree trimming, like limming on the top. So that way we have when we install the new line, if there's any sway, we're not having any arcing or
fire or anything. Standard safety stuff for us. Um, so that's generic for the the project. Um, the the project is um to do a few different things. So the the biggest reason for the project is one to
help integrate distributed generation facilities. So that includes solar facilities, wind facilities, um roof mounted solar, um things like that to get those clean energies into the grid um as much as possible in the region. It also adds an additional transmission
backbone to the region. Um there's been um some call on the company and not just Eversource, but also National Grid in the region to help like build a more robust grid in the area to combat storms and outages. So, this is one of those types of projects that helps add a
secondary circuit um into this area. So, if for some reason the circuit that is currently powering this area goes down, there's a backup. Um notice the room not moving. Are you supposed to be on page three and
you haven't moved? It's not moving, Jack. Jack. Oh, it's moving now. Yes, that's what I was pressing. Oh, you are you getting paige or the arrow? Oh, all right. I think it's Yeah, that's the one I was on. I'll go
back. Um, so the members of the board, if you remember Saturday, we're out there Saturday morning. This is essentially the view you guys saw Saturday. It was taken around the same time of year uh last year. So very representative view. This is what the ex the current rightway looks like. Um and
then as proposed this is on Matapo side of the project as the board knows. This this line runs about 3 mi from uh the mental road area to um Crystal Spring and Matapo where we have an existing substation. Um so this is a view from
the Mapois side but the structure size color everything is identical for the entire line. So it's going to look exactly like that. Um, and I think now is where I'll hand it over to Jack to get through the specifics of all the map sets. All right. Thank you, Jack. Before you start, one thing I want
to do with the list. Are we certified? Certified. I haven't got them yet. No. No. I can pull it down tomorrow. Okay. So in appendix C of the notice of intent or attachment C I should say
rather is a good permanent map set you have uh there's a good graphic representation of the project across the uh uh across the town of Kushner the first two sheets of the of the maps are Kushner one mile of this project isn't
Kushner the other two are meta so I just want to walk you through that first uh the first couple of sheets to give you a sense of the impact the resources and the weather impacts uh along that segment. Here we have uh that first sheet which uh let me just take a moment
and explain the um the map symbology for anybody that might be watching it on screen. You see the two black lines that are parallel black lines that run left to right across the page that represents the both edges of the transmission
rightway. There's also a dashed line, pair of lines that run within the rightway. That's the existing access road. The green polygon is the um green polygon represents the areas that were delineated within the
right of way. And there's also uh buffer zones and uh river uh riverfront areas and bordering lands that flooded that are also represented by various line types on the plan. Uh but if you can focus on the on
the green areas, that's where the wetland impacts will occur. I'm going to zoom in now on uh the first uh two structures south of of uh of our first road crossing there. Uh that's structures two and I'm sorry,
three and four. The only two structures that are actually located within bordering vegetative wetland. And you can see that um the the red dots represent the structures. You look closely, you'll see There's a new numerical label that represents uh a
unique identifier for that structure. Here we have structures three and four. And also the um you'll see a yellow cross-hatched area. I can just leave the P to point this out to you on the screen here. um these yellow cross-hatched
areas around the structures and along the north side of the rightway, those represent areas that um where temporary construction mats will be placed. Uh the idea is to basically provide a stable work surface for the construction equipment that's working on the installations of these structures and
also good stable access where the equipment will have to cross the rightway along the north side in order to do that uh turning of the vegetation. So the plans also show areas of u temporary and permanent impact. The
permanent impacts are really limited to areas where the structures are going to be in wetlands. That's these two structures only. Um the next structure, structure 5 is located within riverfront area. Um but not within the wetland.
And let's see, just getting back to this story again. Here we have the area where the project crosses Tinkham Brook at near structure 5. As I just said, in fact, this blue dash represents
the riverfront area. You can see structure 5 is within that riverfront area, but just outside of the the flood plane. So, we're not in borderlands to flooding with the structures. Um, but we are certainly within the buffer zone of
the wetland there. Moving on to the the next page. Um yeah, this is where we get to the uh town line, the county line in fact between uh Bristol and Plymouth counties. Right. So we have uh all of these structures on this sheet are
located within the buffer zone of wetlands. Uh but none of them are located within any of the uh wetlands or resource areas. This is just a a handy reference to summarize or quantify the the various impacts both temporary and permanent
along the rightway. The left hand column is just the different types of resource areas that we encounter along the rightway. Those include bordering vegetative wetland, riverfront area and land subjects the bordering land subject to flooding. The next column over is the
temporary impacts. uh they're itemized by both construction matting and vegetation management. And then finally the last column on the right is the permanent impact. So you can see there's actually very little permanent impact uh 120 ft of total impact in vegetative
wetland and uh 180 square ft in the uh riverfront area. Sorry. So, a lot of mitigation has been proposed here. We've um um it's been built into the project design. It
includes uh use of construction mats to minimize impacts to wetlands related to construction access and uh operational equipment around each of those structures. Uh maintaining the root structure of trees and shrubs removed from the north side of the rightway. As James said, mostly that most of that
vegetation management is going to be uh mopping off limbs of trees that are extending into the ride ofway to maintain the required separation from the suspended lines. Um there will be specialized installation for the structures at three
and four. The directing method that uh allows for um the structures to be installed without a concrete foundation, meaning there'll be less disturbance to the wetland area at those two locations. Of course, southern erosion controls will be installed at all wetland crossings.
And uh also we have uh environmental compliance monitor. Very important consideration. Uh there will be a qualified environmental inspector assigned to the project who will whose responsibility will be to go out there and uh make sure that uh all of the conditions of of your of this order
conditions we hope to get from this commission are honored as well as all of the other environmental permits that uh the project is subject to. those inspections will be held minimally once once a week. Um, and then of course we have the the wetland replication areas which I'm
going to talk a little bit about for those two areas where I can move a hammer. You can fix any computer. Wow. Well, if you have your notice of intent,
you can refer to attachment F. And those are the site planes that show the replication areas for the project. Uh those are uh pretty detailed. They show exactly where the replication areas are in relation to where the structures are going. Um they're uh they give you the
information on the the quantity and species of plants are going to be planted and also the topography that'll be created to um provide for these replication areas. The two structures, three and four, will occupy a total of 120 ft of wetland. It's about 60 ft of
uh permanent impact at each location. And there's going to be over 400 square ft of replication provided in total. I wish I could show you on the screen, but u misbehave. Um just a brief word about the projects
um uh the project status, right? So under the protection act that they are there are provisions for certain projects um uh that that are given uh some some new way let's say in terms of
what's allowed for welllet impact right uh cross country line is is one of those projects um it's understood that you know these projects go several miles um it's likely that they cannot satisfy all the performance standards for the various wetland resource areas so the
The protection act regulations give the local conservation commissions the discretion to approve a project under the limited project statute. Um that said, it is important to point out
that this project does in fact meet all of those performance standards. Now I can go through each of those performance standards for all of the resource areas if you if you'd like. I've got them I've got them all listed in the in the presentation and I can spend the next 10 minutes explaining to you why the
project satisfies needs of those performance standards. So in terms of in terms of respecting your time this evening I'll just turn I'd like to turn it back to the commission if you have any questions to ask me specifically about those performance standards. So before I even let them ask you a
question, I want to tell my board something. I took and I went and made a phone call to the DP and I actually talked to the uh guy who handled this, right? You're not exempt. Well, he says it's special conditions, right? So it's something a little different. It's not that okay, you guys are exempt. You do
what you want. He says you still have to follow the guys as tight as we can get them, right? And I believe you guys are trying to do that, right? He even said it. He reviewed it. He said everything looked real good with that. That's what I wanted to tell my board that I did talk to the guy who reviewed it, so it was even better than just talking to
somebody else, right? And then I said, "Well, they're exempt anyway." He said, "Jimmy, I don't like that word." He said, "It's a special condition they have the right to go through and it's listed in this book." Right? So, with that being said, guys, if you got any questions, now would be the time to ask
them. Ask him. All right. Anyone from the public? any uh thing on this? Come right up to the podium, please. So, I live at 16 Holly Avenue in a Kushnet. Yeah. Could you just read your name?
I'm sorry. Apologizing. 16 Holly Avenue in a Kushnet. So, I got one of these notices that says that we are within 100 ft of this. So, that means we are going to have new wire within 100 ft of our home. Is that
correct? I don't believe so. I believe actually it's going to be on the other side of the That's why I'm wondering why we got one of these registered mail letters. They have to go within 100 ft of the You can bring it right on. The rules that you were notified is
because we're required to notify anyone within 100 ft of the right of way project. Yeah. It says I'm going to the right of way 100 ft. Okay. So, we're This is not going to be on Holly Avenue, though. No, you're not going to have no wires on
Holly Avenue. Nothing's going over your house. You're okay. I just am trying to clarify the letter Wolf did not say anything except we're concerned is that you came here to ask instead of sitting home and throwing it on Facebook
or whatever. So, I'm so glad that you did come here and you got the answer you wanted. Okay. No, that's fine. And I will spread the word to the neighbors. Um, that's what everybody wanted to know is, you know, what did it mean to be in
a butter and make a clarification? It's it's them replacing the an existing line on an existing run would help the public. So, they're adding a whole new run to. So,
what's up now is 114 and they're going to put up 112. if you want to bring it back up. Yeah, I can try to get I don't know if that's going to work for us, but I know the board saw it. I think I explained it in person. They realize it's So, there's a there's a a current
rightway that's built out for two circuits. There's only one circuit there currently. So, this project is to build the second circuit on the other side of the rideway. It's currently clear. So, if you look down the rightway, you'll see half of it's empty. So, this project is to fill that out the circuit.
Thank you. All right. Anyone else from the public? I guess we'll stay up there. Okay. Julian, um without the certified, we can still put this to a vote and continue. That's up to you. I think you're supposed to walk in with
I I would do a contingency with the buyers notification. Is it going to make it? Yeah, that's what I guess I I will say just I think I mentioned it last time we were here that the WPA does require that
we produce proof of mailing out of delivery. So I I believe we have complied with proof of of mailing. Did you did they did the Okay. So you did correct and then we all we also followed the policy that was given to us two weeks ago. They require
the proof that they mailed it like that which they did provide and then the green card just to make sure those people did receive the notification. Right. And I know that the that's the department didn't do their job correctly. That is not against you guys.
You guys did what you were supposed to do. I did say the the um we have the one off of me road that we're familiar with. We did Stephen actually did hand deliver a notice on was it Monday? We were we made sure everyone that you know could potentially be affected by
the project was notified. Okay. So, um with that, uh Joan, do we have the notice of intent with you? I do. Can I please get it? So, we have a few beyond the standards that we had to. So,
the notice of intent, you have to follow all the standard border conditions cut and dry. There are a couple that we always put on every and now I'm actually getting in the habit of reading it so everyone knows. There's also um a couple we're probably going to add and I think
it was like a quick discussion on Saturday about it. Um the spill kit has to that's going to be added to it. A spill kit has to be on the ground on the back of a pickup truck and I am probably going to do a visit right down the road. I don't want to add quarter of a mile
down the road. It's like um the other thing is there's no fueling in the wetlands. Um there's a couple but if I can just get that not we do kind of like ours um yeah but we have the order of condition
we had special conditions on our order control Mr. in here based upon the vis. I called it to you guys over here on the right hand side. I would like to see
that post. I did call that dumping on that property. Um so we encourage whoever is dumping on that property. It's the wrong thing to be doing out there. We have a town yard that you can bring your yard debris, etc. or to to
dispose of that yard debris. Um so we asked um they graciously accept it um that this debris that's over there uh would be cleaned out uh upon the construction that's going to take place
over there. Um it's just it it it frustrated me to see all that dumping over there. There's some wetlands over there and and I think that's what frustrates this board. uh you know, we we know there's a town yard to dispose of our yard debris, so let's use it to
our advantage and and protect those wetlands. So, there's a couple things I'm going to add here. Um this is one that we put on every single order of conditions is we call it our special. So, I'm just going to read this off. Erosion control inspection on-site meeting with
contractor within 5 days prior to construction. Site visit from agent at end of construction. No smart piling materials, no equipment stored, no refueling, no portable toilets, all wash outs from concrete in the buffer zones.
I don't think that's asking a lot. The only thing I'll say, this might be something you might want to specify. So, when we drill for a structure, our spoils for that will usually go on the side of the pad while they're setting the structure and then they'll back fill. So, I'm assuming you guys are okay
with us leaving it there while we're setting the structure. You kind of have no choice, right? And I know that the work has to take place, right? I just wanted to make sure you weren't expecting us to truck it off while we're waiting and then put it back in later on. No, I mean, if you're going to have it right there while while you're in the
work zone, but if if you have to bring in any other spot from outside, you can't dump it in the wetlands. Keep it in the road or whatever, right? Or in the border wetlands. Um, like I said, the other thing I am looking for is a spill kit on site 100% time right on the
ground by the drill rig. Um, as far as five days prior to construction, I would like to go out and visit and see the erosion control in, see the walls and whatever you're using. Um, and just to make sure everything looks great and then we give a thumbs up. Um, if you
give me, like I said, within 5 days, I can actually ask any of these commission members if they're willing to go out. If not, it's a solo trip I'll do. I'll meet you there. All right, that sounds great. Okay, so with that being said, you want to pass this back to her just so we don't get anything confused.
If you got something I think when you uh the way you address the uh spoilers is adequate. Okay. So, with that being said, we've added our special condition spill kit um at the rightway at the work. Um, also
make sure this is one of the thing that I I just put a little couple little notes is that the operators, the guys on site, they have numbers of emergency contacts. Um, I know that when I work construction, it was always right there posted. You had the ambulance or the hospital, uh, clean harbors. I worked in
marine construction. So, please make sure those numbers are visible to the guys that are working because the last thing you want if they blow a hydraulic line or something gets 911 that they don't know which direction to go. So just please emphasize that prior to construction and I think we'll be in
pretty good shape. With that being said, I'd like to entertain a motion that the order of conditions get accepted. Do I get a second? I would like to see the green cards be included in this. Right. Um so the agent
No contingency I don't feel cuz they did their proper due not they did their due diligence. They went to the post office. They gave it to Joanne. I know that we usually go with the green cards. I think you guys have done what you're supposed to do. So, with that, I think I think
they've done due diligence. Okay. So, with that being said, I'd like to entertain a motion that the order of conditions get accepted. I need a motion. I'll second it. All those in favor? I said, young man, thank you. Appreciate
your time. Thank you. You're welcome. [Music] Okay, next on this uh decision discussion 185 road presented may be taken. With that being said, I had to
recuse myself. Heat. Heat. Yeah. Yeah. Heat. Heat. That's something. Awesome. Get out. Well, regarding
the issues at 185, um, as I had mentioned at the previous meeting, I was going to confer with the town council, which I have done. Um
as of now um we seem to be at a stalemate with this issue and um for that reason we are going to I'm going to um look for a motion to send this out to
peer review for uh third party review and upon receiving the uh the notes from that review the final decision will be
made regarding this project. That that was the uh recommendation town council town council. Yeah, that's correct. So, um
I move that we, you know, agree that we will uh send this out to peer review uh for a third party to review this and like I said that at that point we will
determine what the outcome will be. Um that's where it stands. Uh let me let me ask a question if you don't mind. Um Jim Marsh um P you got to you got to have a vote. You
don't have a quorum so you can't Yeah, we do. You do? Yes, we do. The three of us you're seven member board. We don't come as you you are. You have seven seats. You don't. But anyways, I'm not secondly. Um who who's paying for the
peer review? Uh the commission the commission's going to score correctly. Um well, you know, I'd be happy to discuss this with my client and see if he's willing to have uh a third party come on his property, but you know, he may say I
understand I understand that's another roadblock. Um that's neither here nor there at this point. Um I again um this is the recommendation that was given to me from town council. I'll
speak to town. Possibly we should have already entertained this prior and you know been uh that much closer to a to the end to termination but um what is the scope of
work up here? I I'm not an engineer. I'm just, you know, I'm reling. Don't shoot the messenger. I'm not going to do that. I'm just wondering recommendation and and I'm sure you're aware of this. So, I mean, is he looking
for um or she? Well, basically, it's going to be uh an asbill is what we're going to hopefully obtain because we can't and haven't been able to do that. And so, it's hard to do. that's right to to to
make an educated decision on this whole issue and I'm comfortable with that. I mean, I think that's fair. Um, I was hoping that we could come to a resolve between the bodies and you know, well,
that's a possibility. Okay, I'm not saying it isn't either. I'm not. But, but again, this this is what was recommended. Um, you know, uh, I I don't have an issue with it.
It It seems like the sensible thing to do at this point. This way, we're making an educated decision when we have all the information in front of us. That's that's where we that's where it stands. All right. So the the process in which
you're going to um seek peer review, you're going to send out requests to several different firms. Yes. Okay. Yeah. Will we get an opportunity to to see what firms are uh
I don't I don't I don't I don't see generally it's streaming we provide correct that's correct. So the part I want to see we're not we're trying to be as transparent as possible with this whole situation. Okay. I at least I am I
am totally and so I don't have any issue with any of the information being obtained by God. I'm not sure we have I understand. I know we did have uh you might have two really
we cross that road. I mean, we're trying to do the fair, you know, uh, amicable thing here to, uh, resolve this. Okay. Is this going to be on for the 13th and we'll
bump it up? I'm hoping. Yeah. I can't say, you know, I just It's not, you know, we can talk about you want it makes sense to come back. No, maybe not
because how quickly that's going to occur is beyond me. Okay. I mean, we're going to go forward with it after we, you know, make the um motion here. And I mean, if you if you're okay with that,
I mean, we could what what is the following meeting after the um the next 27th? 30 13th and meeting after that is the 27th, right? The 27th. I guess hopefully we all have the
information that we're looking for and we can I mean I would request both parties send everything again in the PDFs just to simplify it so I can be sending we don't have an agent here that I would be taken on just as the clerk
and I'm already understood there you know the commission can do what they want with respect to you working off the advice of of town counsel that's
how I left it there I you know my client has to I just felt more comfortable yeah know I get it because no one wants to go through any unnecessary litigation you know I mean that's what every you know we we're trying to avoid that so no I think
everybody is on the same page with that Um, again, you know, if if you've been advised to see peer review, I got to talk to my client about it first. Um, but you know, if you if you voted through, you got it through. I I still
think there's a question for, but um, you know, we can we can we can respond through your agent as to whether we're um in agreement. Okay. So I'll make a motion to send this back.
Yeah, I'll enterain I'll entertain a motion that we put this out to peer review a third party engineer to overlook. So move to second. All those in favor I I and then push it out to at least the
27th. Yeah. Is that 27 Joan? Would that be in? It's more so up to you guys if that's the case. I I think that sense for everyone this way. Yeah. I mean,
everyone's everyone has the information that that comes available and and can have time to review it prior to the to the 27th. Does that make sense? That makes sense. Yeah.
Um, just off the top of my head, he I think it was when my last prior agent was here, they did ask questions about the quorum and the attorney council did come back with saying that it's a five member
board now cuz they have two vacant positions and and and the town the town clerk, right? I see. I know what you're saying because she turned around and said it's a voted in seven member board. I mean appointed board.
Yeah. That that's what we got as a as a you know written statement was it's a five member board now. I have the paperwork somewhere here. I I remember him raising questions raised when we were back at the police
station. Yeah. I think gave you guys essentially. Yeah. I just Oh, you know what? I know I brought it somewhere. Oh, here it is. I did find it. Okay, I know I brought it. It's just another So, a quorum of the commissioner's fine
at 310 CMI 10.05 of the majority of the members then in office. It sounds like there are currently five members in office. Accordingly, three members are required as to a minimum to retain a quorum to take action on any application in order to grant a permanent application. And there must be an
affirmative vote by a majority of a quorum. So that's what we got as you know from our town council. Right. That was from the AP. And again the town clerk did bring out
the town charter or bylaw or whatever it was that she had which differs from this. So I think I'm not. Yeah. Exactly. town council telling you why we're going with what town council said, right? So, all I can tell you at this
point, okay, I will see you. So, make a motion for Yeah. 27. I mean, so make a motion continue for the 27th. Okay.
I think it should have been done a long time ago. All right. Look, I've already paid for a while. All right. On the 27th, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. But I'll follow up with you with any um anything that's
submitted or um Yeah, let's try to get to these engineers updates and the the last plans that we had, the original plan, then there was a modification and then another one. So, the final one just so they can see
everything. Yep. And I can figure out who we're going to use for peer review. Give you an opportunity. I think there's two. I think it's uh GAF and maybe Mel. I think that's the only ones that we have available to us. I can check with planning to see if she uses something
else that maybe they could take on for us too. I think she meant to mention the name, but I wasn't familiar with it. So again, when the last agent was here, he was trying to round up more peer reviewers, but it didn't seem like we could get a few on board easily. Okay.
So, I will try my best to see if she can help with doing some more recommendations and reaching out. Okay. And then we'll give you like three and send them out to those three and get some moves for you.
Thank you. Thank you. All right. Okay. Public hearing from Miami may be taken. So right now Joan's doing the public act. No longer it's going to be the applicant engineers whoever they
have to show. They have to do the boiler template according to Joanne. Um but it's going to release Joan some more work and that's what we're trying to do. So, let's get the engineers, let's get the applicants, let them do the um So, with that, should we put this to a vote
or discussion is fine? Sure. Let's vote. All right. So, what we're going to do is entertain a motion to vote that the applicant or engineers or whoever is presenting the documents, they're the ones that have to do the ad request. So, move
and all those in favor. That's off your list. How doing? Beautiful. Agent update. Um, we don't have any agent. So, we don't have any agent update. Mr. Jim, do we have um any consideration uh as far as filling that um seat? So, I
actually had a talk with Jamie Kelly. I um let's see if they can fill it quick. I said, you know, there are there was other applicants. Let's see if they're willing to go back. Um that's something I will discuss with Jamie again. And I'm also going to talk to the select guy. Are we running an ad? Um I don't know
what their plans are right now, but I will try to research it as soon as I can. Okay. So with that other business, any other business that may properly come before the commission not reasonably interface with posting 48 hours prior to the meeting future
have a question. I'm sorry. Other business if you don't mind. Um Zach Vargas now for middle road solar. Um my attorney has been in touch with Joanne. Um the mil road solar project was the first project that came through this
town where conservation commission had taken storm water from planning under the new storm water bylaw. Um and I don't think and I think this might have come on part my side part Mr. Minton was kind of on his way out in the middle as we were ending but um we need a
reference to a storm water permit or lack thereof. Um, essentially, um, my attorneys drafted a letter that basically just says this board needs to certify that the order of conditions issued
is in fact intent and storm water. She did. So, what I do, she has it all ready for us to sign everything. So, what happened was I must permit me I type of a permit but unless I'm told the type of a permit but that's
not my jurisdiction. So, so as of right now, I have to like that was too good, right? Thank you guys very much. Okay.
All right. So, other business, any other business that may properly come before the not reasonably anticipated when closing 48 hours prior to the meeting. Future business. The next meeting of the conservation commission will be hall on August 13, 2025. Meeting will be held at the town hall meeting room located at
122 Main Street in Kushnet, Mass. With that, I'd like to entertain a motion to adjourn the meeting. I'll make a motion. Do I have a second? Second. All those in favor? I. We are journey.
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