[Music] public hearing is now called to order this hearing is being held as required by the provisions of chapter 131 section 40 of the general laws of the Commonwealth and act relative to the
protection of the wetlands as most recently amended notice the time in place of this hearing was published in the faen neighborhood news on February 6 2025 it was also posted in the town Clark clerk's office this meeting is being audio and video
persons wishing to be heard will be called in the following order I'd like to entertain a motion to open the public meeting motion to open the public meeting second all those in favor okay so before I start with this I just want to give a little notice here
our next meeting which would be on March 12th is at the police department the cushion Police Department it'll be there all the way until June um just so here and I will mention it again at the end of me end of the meeting just to remind everybody but this is just for that
short period of time and then we'll be back here again okay notice here I given that the aush cons commission will be held at a public heing uh public hearing on Wednesday February 12th beginning at 600 p.m. in the town meeting all located at 122 Main
Street of kushion at Massachusetts uh first thing is minute for approval there's nothing there um meeting mail nothing there old business Mark any old business okay the list yep all right
continue public hearing noi Lake Street New Beford reservoirs Lakes one 2 and four map three lot 13 map 4 lot 49 and map 19 lot 32- SE e001
0595 a notice of intent was filed by James Kelly town of for the property located at the reservoir Lakes one two and four the applicant proposes the removal of the uh removal at the root of invasive Leeds from areas in the Nea
Reservoir Lakes 1 2 and four located in a cushion it using an ecoa the applicant is represented by Scott daget um Lake Street Improvement committee um this meeting has been continued to March 12 2025 a review of a matters presented
vote may be taken due to the Mullen R um Rebecca and Nelson will not be eligible to vote so I'd like to do as entertain a motion um to open continue public hearing I make a motion second second
all those in favor all okay um one other thing guys is that I won't be be voting I'm only going to be using my vote when it's necessary either to break a tie or it's needed otherwise I will not be voting okay
next uh contined public hearing noi storm a white Farm uh Incorporated 211 Middle Road Maps 23 lck 29 29a 29b um SE number is 001
0596 a notice of intent of in stor mod application was filed by Zachary Zachary par Middle Road cushion Sola LLC for property located at 211 Middle Road Maps 23 Lot 29 29a and 29b the applicant
proposes to construct a ground mounted solar array on a portion of the Open Fields within the property located at 211 Middle Road in aush work is limited to the 100 buffer zone to the bordering uh vegetated Wetland and Bank the
applicant is represented by Sarah therns of bals and Thomas incorporate plan name is Middle Road um PV solar development uh date September 10th 2024 reviews of matters presented votes
will be taken due to the Mullen rule Rebecca and Nelson will not be eligible to vote I'd like to entertain a motion to do a continuation motion to continue everybody knows that except for us excuse me no I'm sorry let's talk about
and do I get a second uh till the next meeting till March 12th you want yeah and that's for peer review comments uh still back and forth correct Mr chairman so um I Heard till
next meeting and then I heard March 12th March 12th is the next meeting is anything being discussed tonight orus excuse me is anything being discussed is everything being pushed or is it um no we do have a couple that'll be
coming up in the new business that is not continued okay um next one continue public hearing noi Matthew Bell map Ro wait wait wait did I get a motion to continue that yeah and you have to put the date you date so motion to Conn to
March 12th meeting U I made the motion to continue that ent ent I entertained it first okay so there was the second by Heidi and then it was eyes across the board
okay okay next continue public hearing noi Matthew Batello road map 10 lot 144a 144a SE number is 001 0599 a notice of attempt was filed for
the property located at map pois road map 10 lot 14.14 a the applicant proposes to construct a single family house with a septic system roof area infil infiltration system well Associated grading and a small portion
of the pave driveway within the 100 foot buffer zone to a bordering vegetated Wetland the applicant applicant is represented by alons Koka of kbm Design Group LLC plan name is proposed single
family dwelling site plan dated December 16 2024 the meeting has been continued to March 12th 2025 review of a matters presented votes may be taken once again Rebecca andelson is not allowed to vote
um members Rebecca and have viewed of the January 15th meeting video and signed an affida regarding the mulling rule look at that you're right up there now okay I would like to entertain a motion to continue the hearing to March
12th 2025 motion to continue to March 12 2025 I'll second that all those in favor I okay now we'll be starting on the new business public hearing RDA cushion IT
company 115 Manchester Lane map 11 lot 25c 34 a request for determination was filed by a cushion company for property located at 115 Manchester Lane M 11 Lot 2 5
c34 the applicant proposes uh Twee trimming and selective tree removal with stumps to remain the applicant is presented by William Madam Madden of GF engineering plan name is plan to a company request for determination of
abil app ability dated January 14 2025 reviews of the matters presented votes may be taken I would like to entertain a motion to open the public hearing second up all those in favor bill it's all yours and I'm going
to recuse myself of this okay thank you Mark mad GF also with me Kev Kelly from the kusher company I'm here to represent them for the request for determination of applicability we filed a month or so ago for some tree clearing they're
looking to do at the short game course that's out at me and Chester Lane um as you recall those of us that were out there we had the site the site inspection on um on Saturday morning went through a couple of the matters that the commissioner was interested in
and the number of trees that we were looking to cut was of some of some concerned um this plan that I have in in front of you indicates the area of the short game course that's what it's called it's a it's a little golf hole they do pitching and putting and things
like that out there it's continuation extension of the um the performance center down there at Manchester Lane as it's now called so what we did is we shaded the areas that the overhanging limbs um occur on and where some of the
some of the trees are um to be cut on this Southern what we this is it the southern we fa in yeah let's call the East right yeah more or less that's what a sunrises yep um so there's a stone wall that
parallels the cart path or that's not truly a cart path but the the access way that goes to the back of the short game course that area is where most of the trees are are are shading some of the uh some of the golf of course and when they
have shading they have growth issues with the with the turf turf management becomes a little bit more difficult um the trees also serve as a host to various kind of pests and insects and things like that that can U they can get blown out of the trees get on the turf
um they can lay eggs they can be they can be there they can eat the turf they can do a lot of things and really what it does is it costs the company um some resources financial and Manpower wise to maintain those things and you know if we eliminate the source of the host we're
able to better control what goes on as far as the growing conditions on on the uh on the short game course but predominantly like I say the easterly um Sunrise was yielding a pretty good shading of the of the short game we were
able to witness that um at the at the site inspection some there's a stone wall along this along this boundary and some of the trees do lean over the stone wall into the into the uh short game course so the overhanging limbs are
going to be cut in a few instances the entire tree will have to come down because the vast majority of the tree is overhanging that wall um so in total there's about 15 or 20 trees that are going to need to be cut I spoke to DJ
he's the turf management superintendent down there who's in charge of the facility and he went out there after the site meeting and flagged up the trees that he's looking to looking to trim down and predominantly the ones on what side are we over there this is really
East over east east over here Southeast and um that's the area that's a little closer to the BBW you have the BBW border here there's a chain link fence that separates the short game from the wooded area and there was a discussion in the field that was um along the lines
that we wanted to make sure that you know we didn't cut unnecessarily remove trees that didn't need to be cut so there's about 15 to 20 trees he didn't have an exact count um for me yesterday when we spoke but that's what he flagged
up there and his intention is to keep the trees that he can keep similar to what we've done at other locations on the uh at the facility so there's like 15 or so 15 or 20 trees that would need to be cut on this side the Northerly
side of call it really not intending to do too much there other than some trimming of the branches so of a few trees it's not anywhere near as um as thick and overhanging in in extending
into the uh into the area as as this um southeasterly side and um we flag those up they're they're ready to be viewed in the event the commission wants to issue us a a negative determin on this and um you know certainly will work with the
commission prior to cutting any trees perhaps um Mark commission members whoever desires to go out there can check and see exactly what's intended to be removed it's not like it's going to take a a lot of time to do you know DJ
will be supervising the world they're likely to hire an outside contractor to do that bucket truck type of deal and a tree cutting service so that's what the uh that's what our request is that's what it looks like we're going to be doing out there so with any questions
I'm happy to answer anything from the board yeah I'll take uh so when you're saying let's I'm just trying to get terminologies right here so you said 15 to 20 cutting is this what you are you grouping in the pruning in removal or
just the removal is it 15 to 20 removals and what's the the trimming are you talking pruning so just like a normal prune uh I would say that it look to me to be fairly substantial pruning particularly along this edge here where
the stone wall is so it will be trimming pruning and removal of of trees in their entirety it's all of the all each of all of the three that you described okay so you group them but we're but we're only talking about taking down the 15 to 20
trees in their entirety so you so the REM removal is going to be 15 to 20 yes okay and no stumps to be removed everything cut flush with great I I just um I had another conern at prior
meetings didn't we already go over this and say that if you guys wanted to do more removals that needless to say you said you were going to go do you weren't going to do come back to us with more removals now you're coming back to us with more removals and I think we stated in in
that meeting that if you were planning on doing more removals to come at it with us the whole thing not just keep peac mailing the project so we've already done two separate times correct it's been correct the only thing is we've haven't allowed they've never come
with us for the shot game the shot field so still the same it kind of is you're right it's the same property it's just in a different area now yeah so I thought originally we said we wanted that all together correct we did okay so
we did mention that you did there's no we're not disputing that was that was exactly what was said my confusion is just Why is what's the reason for coming back again if we already went and I thought we already took care of the problem of the trimming and the removals um I know it's a different area but it's
still the same property and it's still the same project in my eyes it's just a different section of it correct I don't I can't really speak directly to that um other than you know the the observations that were made since the time we cut the
other trees along the test facility the that this has come that this has come to light um granted the trees didn't just grow in in a two or threee period and the overhanging branches didn't just recently appear last year yeah but I
think that um you know there's so much to do out there I don't know if it was recognized that they needed to do that at the time there's no other there's also other have you guys gone through any other options other than straight removals have you
gone through the options of different pesticides for the trees themselves like there's different um things to repel the bugs and all that stuff before you go straight to the removal I understand that you're bringing towards us that now
you have a problem with shading on a Turf but I can't really see in my personal opinion it's not going to hurt the growth of a Turf like a regular Is it artificial turf or no it's it's real Turf but you know when it becomes overly shaded there's a lot of uh Moss that can
grow in the field there's herbicide that's required you know it's true that they might be able to true to to use different insecticides and what have you to kill any any pests but you know as far as improving air circulation
sunlight on the course really the the offender is the growth of the trees and really the the thing that has to happen is is a routine maintenance of those trees um to prevent the growth from
getting where it is today on on the other aspect is there any what do you got other than the grass not growing how you would like it is there and we're talking regular grass right well no special teer well yeah
when I think of turf I think of a Turf like a football field or something not grass um do is there uh is there any other objects in the area that Beast trees could you know you
said that they were leaning is there any hazards in the way where they could be deemed a hazard tree because of a building is there any buildings over there anything that there's no buildings but there is that cart path that runs along the stone wall and that's the path
that most people will walk that's the path that the maintenance workers will use the overhanging trees do interfere with some of that to to to a limited degree I'm not going to say that it's no no no no you're yeah so after me being
on site Saturday um took along the stone wall I'm very comfortable what's going on there um there's no Wetlands on the other side of it immediate um they do have a lot of branches there's a couple trees that would be more than 50% if they just trimmed it so those trees are going to have to be stumped there was
only a cup cut flush there was only a few on that stone wall side the other side is where my concern was is cuz you got one spot where 10 ft the the literally 10 ft from the wetlands that's right a little bit further up to Bild
right there is where it's 10 I believe but neither handle there that was my biggest concern um to me that it's not a big shading issue um because the shade ain't there um so it's up to you guys so on so the whole north side then if
there's no Wetlands involved that's not even in our juristiction or is it just land under because that they're putting it in the hole so when you come across the bottom that's the stone wall we call it right so that there I think is just a legit trim up a couple trees are going to be
taking too much from the trees so they're going to have to be stumped or cut to the ground level then when you come up the other side that's the one that has a a spot that's within 10 ft of the bordering vegetation right at the top there um Bill where's the closest I think the closest is is right here yep
which is 10 ft um so that one there I was a little concerned about and I don't think a lot of those trees should come down because it's not a shading issue it'd be more of a bug issue because the sun just ain't hitting that and shading it on them and that's like the other
side that goes across the top that one there same thing that's going to that's not going to give any shad issues and the trees are pretty much trimmed on on this side satisfactorily and I think that the end
result my question is that the north is out of the buffer zone right um it's actually in the 100 foot buffer zone I think the 100 foot line having a tough time reading it right here okay yeah and then on the bottom so that other line is
what this one here no the next one over this one here yeah yeah Riverfront okay there's a there's a stream um out over here that we didn't well we ran into a situation
where we we had been monitoring it and we had no flow conditions for the proper um number of days four days in in a calendar year um then you know we're attempting to uh to make a make a notice
on that um then we had some weather and rain in the fall and it kind of put a kibos on that whole thought so we just left it the way it is we didn't want to make a determination as to the the riverfront area and we would just respect it in the manner that it shows
up on the USGS quad sheet as a perennial stream so we just left those resource areas on the plant I think my biggest concern is that you guys said you w going to do no more you're coming in front of us well well I think what we said like I
was at that meeting was that we would keep that in mind but we can't anticipate the future and there may be more trees in removing removal and pral removal and pruning of two different subject things I believe I was the one
that specifically said the removals um that's why it gets complicated when we use trimming and cutting and nonprofessional terms um I can't can't really like even on the pruning I we just dead pruning I we we just shade pruning so are you just planning on
cutting half this tree apart um which would Mally hurt a lot of them like you were stay that's I saying I actually talked to Bill about it on Saturday I was like a lot of these you're going to cut so much out cu if they go to the stone wall and went straight up which is kind of what they want to do um you're
going to be losing some of them are over 50% of the tree so those trees have to be cut to the ground there wasn't a lot of them that had to be cut to the ground on the stone wall area um I'm going to probably say a good probably six or seven on the back side of the stone wall that going to have to be cut that other
wall coming back along the uh the chain link fence that's the one where there was quite a few that they were looking to remove everything pretty much on to on the the uh Co side of the steel uh
the chain link fence yeah which I thought there was a lot more than 15 and 20 in though but so you're looking to leave some of them yes unfortunately apologize I could to me but the 50% rule does uh it's usually
30% but it does obtain on species too like Maples are known to be very Hardy you can get away with cutting a little more than 50 um you go down into like cherries and um Birch uh stuff like that
kind of goes the opposite way yep they it look like most of their pin is what's going to have to come down and so the only thing I'd like to do is either have Mark or myself go out there or any commission member and see what the trees that are flaged um maybe
even do a you know a phone call and say Hey you know is there any way you can lead this one or everything looks good um if that ain't a problem um that's my own opinion um we could even meet you out there with our tur
manager I'd like to do that absolutely so what I can do I can entertain a motion for a negative determination with the conditions that we meet up and make sure we kind of like it so we don't have to bring it back to another meeting and
um go that way just deal with the you know either the agent or give him a call to go there and see if any commission members are available to go and uh take a look at it I mean I I definitely saw what you guys want to do um I'm glad you're leaving some on that other side
because you know like I said I don't think that's a shading issue um so if we're working together and things look pretty good I think we can go with that so like again once one more time I'd like to entertain a motion that we give a negative determination with those speculations that we go see it before
they start the work get a second all those in favor all right two Budi you got to vote on this one we need four do you need four give me a minute here you got you
got got Heidi Jimmy it's only one I'll vote a yes okay so now you got three that yeah that's fine majority of
the cor present yeah all right sounds good now do I have to close the Jo in or we leave it open no you can close all right I like go ah oh you didn't do you didn't do I know plus do you want to
pick a date now or just let that just you want to do on site visit again do you want to do it on Saturday when mat can get out there I I heard the agent and anybody that wants to go out yeah I don't think we'll pick a Saturday we'll just go with
it okay the other thing I didn't do is ask the audience um if anyone has any concerns or want to speak about this project okay so motion close so so my my comment was just that when uh we can coordinate
when you're ready um I'm happy to try to Saturday visit this coming Saturday we could do a Satur I'd rather I'd like to go with it too but we can do a week during the week U meet your Turf manager too I'd like to meet him so if you guys
can get a hold of M M will get a hold of me if I'm available or if any other commission members are available we'll take a ride out there talk to him take a look at what we want go from there sounds good Saturday's fine whatever it works you know we I'm flexible we'll
talk to DJ our turf manager and see what's good for everybody and give you guys a call and with any luck if the contractor that they're going to hire to do the work is available maybe it would be good for him to hear directly from the commission members in the agent what the what the thoughts are so there's no
misunderstanding on his part sounds good all right with that being said I'd like to ENT take a motion to close this public hearing close all those in favor you need me my vote to on that one or no
I all right than thank you okay next the C of a cushion the company 115 Manchester Lane don't go too far Bill map 11 laot 5 c34 SE number 01571 a certificate compliance was filed
by a cushion company for property located at 115 Manchester Lane map 11 Lot 25 c34 the op proposes work that consist the in installation of utility poles overhead wires tree Lim trimming and tree removal as necessary to BU to
provide three-phase Power service to the facility within the 100 foot buffer zone to border W vegetated Wetland a small access area to provide the means to install the overhead lines this area was not located in a resource area of buffer
zone test facility Visitor Center as built plan dated January 17 20125 uh review of matters presented votes may be taken I'd like toate a motion to accept the COC hold on one second just I'm going to
just for the record Doug is still recused I'm still recuse myself I'd like to entertain a motion to open up the COC motion second all those in favor okay go ahead Bill okay Bill Madden from GF here on behalf of the
inent company also with me is Kevin Kelly um Saturday we did a site inspection of the of the site and focused pretty much on the work that was done in the buffer zone to the BBW that's pretty and that was pretty much limited to the drainage base and that
was to the uh to the west of the of Manchester Lane or the site access Drive Might Recall we did walked down looked at the sedent four Bays looked at the drainage Bas in the turf establishment that's been going on in there and uh went to the end of the drainage basin
where the really the only point of discussion came up with the level of the level spreader so anyway it's kind it's kind of deceiving because I went back to the to the actual survey data that we took when we were in the field to look at it
and the and the shots that were on the bottom of the um level spreader were all within a tenth of a foot they were 369 to Elevation 37 so it was a little deceiving because a grade kind of Rises up behind it or looking at it to the to
the north and gives the little deception of uh of a not so level level spreader but it's truly level so we even on top of the stone what's that did you was that the bottom you shot it top top wow it is deceiving that that was really
deceiving then yeah yeah well we we said maybe just a little handwork I didn't think it was that far off but it's a lot closer than what I thought yeah well I mean it's you know it's literally the top of the BM around the basin's elevation 42 in that area we're at 37 so you know there's some footage that we're
really talking about there that can distort the way everything's perceived You Know It's Tricky Ian it can be but uh but that's what we looked at we feel like the sight's um fully stabilized and established we'd like to remove the sedimentation rosion control barriers
that that were in place during construction and uh you know wrap the job up um should the commission be willing to grant us the COC oh just so um I know that you three weren't at the thing um I thought it was one of the cleanest
neatest areas put in that I've seen the the grass is coming back really nice it was really really I was impressed very impressed with the way it looked um the only thing I looked at a spread of box and I said to Bill I don't think this is two levels and we all stood there and
said no it kind of isn't but maybe just a little hand rate well it's level than what we thought um so with that being said I'd like to entertain a motion to accept the c or grant them the C I'll make a motion the
C do I get a second second all right all those in favor you got it brother all right thank you very much for your time much appreciate it thank you very much we we'll call when we know a little bit more on the um on the trimming issue yep
give us a call we take a ride over take a quick glance at that I'm thank you thanks very much app oh yeah that all right you coming back with us you coming back on the commission yes come on over hey you guys have a great night
likewise next list public hearing noi Brookside realy trust 1094 Main Street map 7 lot 15 SE number 01-06 a notice of intent was filed by Brookside realy trust CEO John P Matthew
trustee for property located at 1094 Main Street map 7 lot 15 the applicant proposes to install a Title 5 septic system for a for the four family bedroom dwelling with the installation of two Wells and water pipes located towards
the rear of the property within the 100 foot buffer zone to a bordering vegetated Wetland the applicant is represented by David M Deion of Schneider Deion in Leon um Incorporated plan name is sewage disposable system
repair and well replacement plan dated January 2nd 2025 review of a matters presented votes may be taken I'd like to entertain a motion to open the public public hearing motion to open the public hearing I'll
second that all those in favor I okay Dave it's all yours oh thank you Mr chairman uh good evening members of the commission I'm Dave D from Schneider de Leon here representing the owners of 1094 Main Street um most of you know
this is a uh a mobile home park has 49 Mobile Homes uh located on it um as well as uh an additional uh four family dwelling located in the front of the property uh the mobile home park had a
septic system installed um some time ago uh for done by the prior owner um this building was never taken care of um so we're here this evening for actually two prong part of the project uh first being
AC septic upgrade of the system for the 4 family single family uh not single family four family home located uh towards the street if man I'm going to take a break and just get join the green price before I forget so sheet one of the set um
depicts the front detail of the site in 20 scale drawing the Blue Line represents uh an intermittent stream that intermittent stream was determined intermittent by the commission through uh an RDA uh several months back in the
fall there's a flag the green represents a flag top of Bank to that stream the top of Bank uh was approved as accurate uh through an anrad which was filed by believe BS and Thomas for a future Solar Development they didn't Andra for the
entire property highlight in yellow the proposed septic system the existing uh septic um consists of a uh septic tank and a beehive of some sort are located directly in the rear of the house and
the well is located about 25 ft away which is not the ideal situation to say the least minimum set back even for a repair is 50 ft we're proposing upgrade the septic which will be 50 ft from that well this circle that you see is a 50
foot radius we're also maintaining 50 ft um from uh the BBW on the top of the bank flag so we just kind of it in there it will be located uh with a septic tank and a PRP chamber within an existing parking area
so that's why we're proposing to relocate that parking area for the existing residents north of the system and doing so we're going to put Boulders around the uh the system protect it from cic traffic and and and so we don't have
anybody bumping into it this will be a raise system it'll look like a planter bed with a p Stone surface to it it's a bottomless sand filter uh which is the smaller system that you can put uh doesn't require a 5ot overd basically it looks like a flower bed a raised flower
bed we are proposing um to uh will be crushing and filling of the tank and the Beehive and then running a pipe south of the building uh to a septic tank which would be a denitrication septic tank so this will be a dite system call this the
Cadillac of all systems on the market and then it roll into a pump chamber and then it'll pump through a one in line so within the leing field um so uh basically all the work is being done within a lawn area or existing
gravel parking areas um and again we'll be expanding um the turn driveway that comes around to make it 20 ft wide um around the east side so that's part one of the project um the second part is has
more to do with the mobile home park the current owner purchased the property less than years ago the fire owner owned it for some time and basically did no maintenance to the site other than put it in the new septic the
wells the wellhouse and the wells need to be replaced they're located centrally um in the middle of the field and we're picking a spot to relocate the well so that there're between the upper field and the lower field um so that when they P radius around it there won't be any
impacts of the future Solar Development um so we are proposing a pump house located adjacent to this is a Woods Road it will take you all the way to the top half of the property pump house here and we have two stakes in the field uh for Well locations uh sort of
in the midpoint of the of the two uh wet Fields East and West so the the well R will be able to back right down this existing Woods Road install two Wells and then pull out erosion control is proposed on both sides of the road
basically everything will be contained within that Woods Road there will be trenching for water lines to bring it back to the pump house and then from the pump house we'll be connecting to the existing water lines that run parallel to uh cleans
way um I don't know Mr J is there any need to go into the mosquito control issue that we had on site well the only thing is I do want to tell the members okay okay so we had um when we walked it we found one spot Dave if you don't mind just pointing it out right there that point I believe it's kind there's
there's an old well that we actually located and we believe that um some time ago somebody had uh put this well in they cleared an area there's an there's an area that when you come around a Bend it's cleared when mosquito control came
in uh for the current owner I believe in 2021 was the first time they 2023 is when they did that one right they cut trees along the the stream and they opened up the stream in both directions and they they thought based on mass GIS
mapping the wetlands weren't as as Extreme as they are flagged and approved and so they they picked this area it is a looks like a Pine Grove in there they picked the spot and they put they put loads of they put all the tree debris and branches and sumps and everything
that and a pile right there and when we did the onsite we didn't know right so what I did is I called today just so you guys know I talked right with the Bristol County um asked them about it I got their superintendent guy who did the up he called me right back and U just so you guys know he kind of told me exactly
what he did and then he said don't forget we're exempt so they did let me know that they're exempt they are going to get a hold of us now in the future directly they were sending things to the town hall um now it'll go directly right to the Conservation Commission as well as the town hall so now we're going to
have more warning to know that okay this property is being D we can go there before they do any work take looks take a look after they do the work and then this way if it of comes up again Dave was scrambling a little bit figuring out why that was pushed there I was kind of upset because I thought the owner did it
but after making the phone calls and everything and it's all legit and um there ain't much we can do about it except for for now one they're going to give us notice so with that being said everything is going to be put into the road then and go back to the existing grade all the pipes are the well everything is right down the road no
grade changes rest just open it up put the pipes in close it up that's correct all right anyone else how far below David these pipes intended to go in the road water lines are 4T minimum so typically four to
five I I I guess my concern on this project by being here on this site um you guys know it was a skating rank that entire Road out there there's a hydraulic connection from the left side to the right side are we going to
address this um in any way shape or form um from the disruption of running these lines it'll have to be done in the dry there's no off buts about it the well is going to be installed as long as the
road is dry uh but as far as the water lies this is an August September October lowest water table to to trench now now previous when we were on location um a year ago for this similar
walk out that roadway in fact was wet and there was some 3in stone that was dropped out there as a bedding um in that hydraulic
connection I guess on the other side of airing um some caution here has have we done any kind of a um study as far as the wildlife uh that could possibly be there salamanders Turtles any any type of habitat that we
would disturb by tearing this up and and laying these water pipes in this connection of this massive wet area which we all witnessed those are my concerns and I'd like to see a study
done out there um to see what there is uh if there a box turtle or salamander or any type of um species that you know we could be you know disrupting um what goes on out
there as their habits at well I believe with the noi correct me if I'm wrong but with the noi natural habitat is already looked at through the N okay yes yes the other thing is is my own personal opinion I think digging down the road like that they're not
touching one side or the other everything's going back to the existing grade no changes have made that water is still going to flow across like it did like we saw on Saturday um I don't think that should ever change I don't think they should build a road up I don't think they should go down any further uh
keep it the way it is so with that being said I don't think that we have an issue with the habitat because the noi is looking at that typically as far as habitat studies you look at whether na fin natural heritage and the endanger
research program we have to include that um as an exhibit within the noi which is which is included and um uh it's not mapped if it was mapped we were required send it those to attent to natural heritage okay um and then they would
possibly put conditions in it was in a turtle habitat they put ER they put a they call it a a turtle plan yeah U Turtle protection plan in place um but since it's not mapped it's not required to to have a habitat study okay I that's
the last question here Dave um the size of the trench uh proposed to do these lines how how wide is is this the of a bucket okay so we're not going to be putting anything out of the roadway as as far as materials when they dig the
trench they'll put the material immediately adjacent to the trench okay they'll do sections as they put in a water line um 30 40 ft they'll back fill and they'll keep so it'll be done incrementally okay they won't open up the whole trench okay you'll just keep
moving it along and it's so so wet there they're they going to throw it to the side of the road no they'll be contained with Sil erosion controls on both sides so they're working in a corridor okay a narrow 10t wide Corridor enough you know to to have a a mini excavated trench and
for the guys to be on the side and then work in the trench okay okay I I feel better about this knowing that you know we've crossed these Bridges and I'm I'm more content we'll say
good um anyone from the public back so so uh I want site uh Saturday as well um and this might be reveal my ignorance a little bit but the pump house is going to be right off the not far from the C
side I yes I'm not sure um the wet ones right there is there any chance for any kind of spillage I don't I don't I don't know what's running the the the pump and it may not be that big it's a contained
structure slab Foundation a wood structure um very similar to what's further down it's actually just look like a little shed but but the roof is not very tall all right I I just that was one of the things just was had I
wanted to ask you about and and and this might be Beyond um this project I think it is but as you walk up the road there's an area cleared a bunch of um Timber down still that's part of a solar farm so that's not really my question is
what's what's going to be the disposition of that material ultimately and that will that will be explained by I would imagine Beals and Thomas I think they're handling the solar project um um I don't think that's that's not going anywhere until they actually do
something with the solar project and I'm told they're close to filing um one thing they were looking for is is the relocation of the wells in order for them to finalize their plan and uh I believe it's the same
company that uh one you have early on your agenda same company put you on the spot there I assumed it wasn't your your issue but my walking back there with you was the first time I've seen it yeah yeah thank
you so one of my concerns Dave is that um the drw RS when they go in to put the well that these guys have spill containments emergency spill containment just like we do in avisaurus everyone else they got the diapers they got everything they need that's one of my big concerns that they have it in
possession I know a lot of guys says oh yeah it's in the pickup truck that so you know a th000 ft away um can we condition the project as such uh I would like to put that into the noi and absolutely make sure that they do have this pill kit is there anything else that someone wants or everyone feels
comfortable what we're doing yeah but we got to be doing any type of refueling on that site for any of the equipment to forego this project got to be a fueling station of
anything the well rig um probably I meanless be real his equipment it's probably going to be some fueling um the other thing is we pull it off the road to fuel pull it back to like almost to the uh get it off
that want to take it's in that already no refueling oh it's in the order already all right so there's no refueling there so we got that made that easy no equipment stor no refuel no portable toilet are wash off and concrete in the buffer zone
Mr chair you want to add something to it oh I'm sorry we could finish that I had another question but that might be so the only thing I'd like to add to that is the um emergency spill kits okay
oh yeah what about them I want them on site yeah you said you want them in the truck drill or something yeah right up close to the work and you can put that right up close to the work how many feet 20 with 20 ft of the work no I'm just
saying to be within the the erosion control yeah yeah we can be 20 ft up the road right from where they're working you know so as long as everything stays right there all right with that being said I have one more go ahead M so Dave I'm
sorry um I just remembered two so on the U septic down below you're moving it um and maybe and maybe already mentioned there are dresses but there's a there's some pine trees I think they going to take down right along the edge of the
the yeah these large pine trees they they want to take them down they're they're actually currently um this is a business and trucks come through here and the branches are already a problem we're going to now move we're going to shift the gravel driveway over it's going to
be more of a nuisance okay so the tra the vehicle traffic and I didn't know the roots into the septic or yeah I um no there far enough away for for concern of roots all right but uh the owner just they're
overgrown and and they were never maintained and even like to just take them get so so that's intermittent so you can go right out all right thank you you're welc all right with that being said I'd like to entertain a motion to give the
noi to this project excuse me any any audience to issue an order of conditions with the order of conditions with the stipulation of a SP kit site yeah okay I'm going to do it
one more time I'd like ENT D motion to give the noi with the specific order of condition we added to it this evening I'll make the motion all those in favor all you got that one thank you you're welcome Jo I gave you
[Music] the the one that's Comm driveway that's the Comm driveway okay that's next okay addition spill kit within 20 foot right yep M can help me it tomorrow I'm just
doing Dave one last question when's the proposed time to start this project do we have a date uh I would say the the wells an aseptic would be in the dry so as we get to drier
season I would say June July I believe when in the they have to um submit something Mark anyway that will come all up later on after we get
the as far as the wells uh there is some permitting that the owner has to do with the D um because it's considered a public so there's additional permitting um that you may be copied on I'm not
sure how they handle that okay and he has some sort of Water Resource expert to do that yeah if not if we could just be kept in Lo should be great absolutely all right moving forward public hearing noi Frankin Karen
knots mle road map 9 lot 24a and portion of 18h SC number is 001-01 a notice of intent was filed by Frank and Karen not for property located at meno road map 99 24 in portion of 188
the applicant proposes the development of three residential house Lots together with construction of a common driveway three single family dwell dwellings and Associated driveways the installation of Wells septic system and underground utilities and filling in grading the
applicant is represented by David M Deion of Schneider Deion and Leon Incorporated plan name is common driveway and three three lot development plan dated January 24th 2025 review of matters presented votes may be tained
I'd like to entertain a motion to open up the public hearing to open the public hearing all those in favor Dave you again in case anybody just walk in the door I'm davean I represent Frank and Karen Knox um who
owned this property these three properties as well as the next NY uh public hearing which will occur right after this um so they uh little history they purchased three of the four Lots uh at one time from the prior owner which
is Russ D Bo and then this lot was uh the primary lot 24a was owned by another party they put in a a gravel driveway with the anted building house they were permitted uh through Port of health and
signed off by the conservation to build a house and uh they cleared some of the land and and then something happened within the family and they decided they didn't want to build so they sold and when the opportunity came the oox uh family purchased this lot as well so
they own four Lots which um have some of them have Frontage on Carill Road and they come all the way back to Mendo Road through this uh Retreat lot uh neck if you will um so when the noxes came to us uh they you
know they want access they want to be able to build four houses and they want they want permits in place for that um so there were really two ways to approach this um three lots can be serviced by a common driveway but you can't do
four uh so we could have come in from Perry Hill Road with the common driveway and service three lots but then we would have more Wetland impacts um so we decided to bring the common driveway through mendle road so mendle Road will now have three lots with three house
numbers off a Menda Road the fourth one which will be the next case will be a single family home with a single uh family driveway coming for that lot that that fourth house a lot of what um I filed a notice intent for the three lots
that are going to be um serviced by the common driveway as one whole and I did a separate one on the other because they really are separated this is a complex project in that it needs approval from uh not only this board it needs approval from the
stone waterer board which is the same board here it needs a permit from the planning board a special permit for a common driveway as required by the bylaws um and we've also uh filed an application with the uh zoning board
appeals for a couple of variances because of the difficult nature of the slope of the the land um so this is more or less step one and a multiple multi-step process um when I F the nose vent you might have noticed that checked
off the box that storm water management is exempt um it is under the Massachusetts storm water regulations uh because it's four Lots or less it's actually a three lot um noi um so four Lots or less does not
require storm water management under the massachus W protection act however it will require stor water permit from this board uh eventually uh in order for project to move forward uh under the ston waterer bylaw
that we have in town so the steps that I've taken are file a notice of intent take care of the Wetland aspect first then we'll come back to you for stone water permit and then we'll go to the planning board once we address the stone water and we intend to file a stor water
probably next month um so we'll be back before you there's really no need to tie them together because it's confusing as it is the the Noti submitted doesn't require Stone water but the town does so we'll come back in another step so I'll walk you through it's a four sheet set
for the plans um and again a lot of the work is outside of your jurisdiction but it's all part of the package it's the only way we can analyze the whole site um when we do the storm water uh analysis it will include all four Lots not just three
um so sheet one shows the beginning point at mle Road and for those who were there on Saturday we walked it uh we're proposing um under the bylaws you're required to have a 16t wide Gravel Road and that's what we're proposing right between the two stone
walls beginning at mle Road and running all the way until the uh the property ends and there's a dog left left and there's a a stone wall um all of what you see on sheet one is actually outside of the buffer zone I know there are
direct Butters here especially one to the north the design of the road driveway is to tilt it from the left side or the North side to the South Side into a grass whale along the South Side
between the gravel driveway and the stone wall and have a grass well run the entire length and it'll be check dams along the way to slow the water down and then eventually it'll spill into a a plunge pool uh which will act as a level spreader um I've highlighted on this
sheet this this is completely out of the buffer zone this is where the buffer zone Begins the green line uh the dark green line represents the limits of clearing you can see there's just a small Slither of work within the buffer zone so as you if you run down the sheet
here match line a is here and then we're going to get to here in turn and we'll see a lot more activity on the second [Applause] sheet have the sheet sideways but it's the only way I can function here with the board as you come down the road you
will will then turn and head in the Northerly Direction um along that stone wall in the ridge um because you can see there's a lot of Contours um so we're going to run the driveway along the ridge until we get to the other stone wall along the north side again and then
run it um that would be west to east um there are two proposed fire access turnarounds um there was a revision to the plan which is outside of your jurisdiction but it's all relevant um the fire chief asked for a secondary
turnout here um so we widen this and put put a radius in here this being the buffer zone this is outside but there was a a plan revision based upon his review the driveway as you can see is completely outside of this green line and outside of the buffer
zone the first house and again this was this plan was approved by the town several years back some of the clearing happened um is outside bu Zone septic system driveway for that house outside of the buffer zone there's roof run off
proposed for each Home Green Line representing the buffer zone the dark line representing limits clearing you can see again it's just a small Slither going across that lot um just to give them some uh some room for yard and whatnot uh we have a dimension here 56t
and 66 feet the closest points and then from there it pulls away or further away outside of the buffer zone the second house uh situated here is again outside the buffer zone same with the septic system the driveway roof R system and
just a small Slither within the buffer zone um basically for grading purposes closest point to their closest point 75 ft here the house being actually have a dimension okay we don't need that 75 75 ft there
so you have a good clearance there the 75 actually you can see it bows out here to greater than 100 as we come around the bin um like I said small Slither here so when the driveway turns this way we're going to tip it the other way and put it into a stone trench and then
there'll be a grass wheil running uh with the grades down here um there'll be a concrete pad here for a cul that will transfer the water to the other side of of the singular driveway the third one uh the third house will be built off a singular driveway from the common
driveway and that'll turn us into the next sheet so again so far work within the buffer zone two skinny Slither just on the outer limits of the buffer zone so this is a continuation of that plan basically there'll be a single uh
driveway for a single family home which will run along the Ridge and parallel to the existing Stone wall just requires a small area to be cleared until we get to the house site itself um you can see that the green represents what will remain as Woods we have a 43 Fort
Dimension through there and then it starts to narrow down we have a pinch point right here only because we're there were two ways to design this house one was do we go gravity in which the house be tucked up against the septic when I analyze that
the leing Capac be so high out of the ground and the grades are breaking against us we'd have to fill it just to put the Celler in that doesn't make any sense so it what made sense to me is to put a pump system in pull the house away from the mound uh for the leeching field
and just kind of build it into the land so that we have a a a walk out basement which the the uh sell will be kind of just slightly above grade on the on this side and a drive under garage take advantage of of what we have going on here so there's no fill proposal on
these two sides we have a a stone retaining wall here actually just going to fill the front of the house so it looks right and then there'll be basically a bump over here for the septic leing field again you can see the green of buffer on line um the leing
field pump Jam septic tank um and any grading associated with that outside of the buffer zone I'd say about 2/3 of the house is in the buffer zone but we have 50 looks like we have 55 ft from the wetlands at closest point we sort of
directed it so that we could uh work with the Contours to get that drive under garage and I basically you know gave them 30 ft on these two sides just to have you know this is about about an acre for them to use it's a 5 acre piece
4.91 and they're basically going to utilize one acre here excluding the strip to get the driveway in so at that pinch point we do propos Boulders um and we're setting them uh 10 ft on Center um so that this lack
there's a permanent barrier to that W resource area this pimple that kind of bumps out there and so the last sheet is essentially just a a construction uh sheet it shows the various cross-sections of of the driveway the
common driveway and there's a stor water operation maintenance plan put in play knowing we're going to be found for some more permanent in the future mind Dave I'd like to just back up a little bit to the cover you're putting in yeah okay so that's going to go
underneath is there going to be any catching for sand or anything I know you got a grass Swale So This Grass Swale there will be um three uh Trap Rock check check dams which will trap water bleed through trap
water bleed through same thing so we got three different um filtration systems and then there'll be a a a stone head wall built here with with the pipe and there'll be a depression at the entrance of the pipe um so the water will flow through the check dams gets to the pipe
then it'll discharge to this side and then it's just going to flow continue into a grass sale and then a depression real fill up and then Cascade out right so everything that goes through that cover is going to be clean that's yeah that's that's that's check four all
right anyone else yeah Dave could we go to the um the last drawing for the third house [Applause] please so obviously this is the furthest
point this the proposal of this house are we still maintaining the 16t driveway the length into no it changes the 16t driveway ends right here okay what's the L what's the the length of that
driveway um back to the main that main point there yes I have to break out the scale for that one yeah don't look at us you got thumbs going with
this 550 so we got a guess on the table day 550 see how close you come that's 240 that's about 300 350
550 so I I guess number one uh is the fire department okay with this without a proposed turnaround for that length I sent this full set of PL the fire chief and he replied that the only thing he's
requesting and he did look at it is the way these driveways are designed he thought it was adequate enough um he actually mentioned in the email and he requested the on the first the additional turnout for that first home so there was no concern reaching his
house without a turnaround in his eyes according to the email I received no sure the only thing he did was like Dave was saying he did ask for the turn uh a number one turn around so now there's two turnarounds right servicing those those homes that are out here in in East Cy as far as I'm
concern y i I just I have a little bit of a concern because of the the distance you know what I'm saying between point a and point B without a a serviceable turnaround well that would be the fire
department I did ask him for um something on letterhead knowing in the future I will need that for a planning board okay so it's it's risen then so yeah I I I'm hopeful to get a letter from him so okay that would be the
only um eyebrow I I would raise it at this project at at this point in time my biggest concern is the 15 foot you're putting the boulders there I understand what you're kind of doing so it ain't like they're going to be Beyond
it um that was the only concern I had um anyone from the public are any concerns on this or want to ask a question no anyone else from the board questions and this is probably planning I don't know since Doug asked the question is it's gravel now the uh
single drive is it yes I mean it's planning board question I guess but it's kind of storm water a little not but is it going to remain gravel or okay yep so I I I had a couple um questions and more
my information so on the uh Road in there's a storm water right away there I don't I don't know the significance of it I understand it was I don't know the history of it but I I understand it was put in at some point
for yeah very and uh is and I couldn't see is there any Culvert does it P because it gets it gets wet on the south side of that road it's basically a wet Meadow it looks like but I don't think they're jurisdictional wet ones um
there's no I mean the easement in place we show it yeah we don't think they ever exercised anything for it um they didn't break the wall so the water has to it's ping it's going to hit the wall and run through the the way the the design is
we're going to mash graes on the left side and build it down and carve out the sale to the right side so that we won't impede any flow coming off the hill everything will just run right across the the driveway so I just that was just one question I know walking it's cold
but uh some of that's some of that's wet Meadow but I don't think it's jurisdictional I don't you know it's not a but that's where the sale would go um so I wanted to ask that question um I was looking at at um a mass map or wh
whichever one I was on and again I don't you know a good lawyer never ask a question they don't have an answer to so I'm not a lawyer and if I wasn't I wouldn't be a good at lawyer but it the um Mass mapper there's somewhere down down below there's a I
think there's a um verified Vernal pool not U not Vernal pool there's a pond there's a pond but on this side um and I just saw it a little while ago like this afternoon I was looking at it and I don't even know if it's on the knox's
property not but it's it's pretty close in there I don't know if that it come up there are multiple pawns to the east of the site actually yeah it's and I don't know I right here in the Locust you can see there's a pond right here and this is
actually I think it's connected to then pounded Pond U that was for the cranberry bugs to the further east um that was on D it's on D Bo property okay um I don't know of any ma we we don't know of any mapped theral pools in the
area okay and I could share that I mean again it was last minute so and I don't have the answer and I don't even know the I don't even know if it's on the property we're talking about but it's it's close um and I the the one other
this is again more of a bad lawyer question tinam Brook I don't that's tinam Brook coming down through there right and some point a couple of there and I not here but further yes yeah but
there is a stream um right here okay that drains into this pond it's on the east side of the noox property okay that was determined to be in a mitten years ago when they built on the other side okay I
think tum is South southeast of the site okay and that is BR okay yeah and and I I would that you would have caught it on the we're okay so it's far enough away that we're not going to impact this that's
correct resource area quite that's actually behind the fields Howland Fields okay well and we and we walked the site but I didn't feel like getting kney and mu try and wear you know cut up by thees no I know the area pretty good
and back there is there's the stream right behind all those fields that actually goes to gamon's road that way and heads that way so with that being said I'd like to entertain a motion that we accept the noi
anybody oh anyone from the public I thought I asked already I did all right all those in favor I I all that one [Music] Dave yeah it just you know lets everyone
know that hey this is it this is the limit you know the split rail fences right the split rail fences a little easier to say okay they're rotten let's throw them away right that's okay so next public hearing noi Franklin Karen
KN per Hill road map 9 Northerly portion of 188 SE number 00162 a notice of attempt was filed by Frank and Karen KNX property located at per Hill road map 9 norly portion of 188 the applicant propos it is construction
a single family dwelling in gravel driveway instulation of a well septic system and underground utilities and filling in grading the applicant is R presented by David M de vinion of Schneider the vinion and Leon Incorporated plan name is sewage
disposable system site plan dated January 24th 2025 review of matters presented votes may be taken I'd like to entertain a motion to open up the public hearing motion to open the public hearing second all those in favor I Dave
yours again thank you Mr chairman you want to tell us who you are so on the uh upper part of the plan we do show the Locust which actually shows all lots that I'm just talking about this one's highlighted this is a retreat lot which has Frontage off Perry Hill and we're proposing access off
Perry Hill um it does require a uh a wetland Crossing about this piece of the whole piece for reference uh there's a house to the uh West that uh we're we're going to be about double as distance from the road back from that house
so in order to draw this on the 20 scale we had to break up the plan we have match line back here is actually up one area along the front of per Hill Road probably enough to maybe squeeze in a house but you could put a septic um that Upland era will come in
handy in order to uh construct the driveway um so the driveway will run parallel to the existing stone wall which uh runs along the west side um it will require Crossing from this green line over this green line The Proposal
is to fill or alter permanently 4,700 squ ft of wetlands and then replicate it just past as we get past the wetlands adjacent to the Wetland Flags over here uh 5,150 ft of U
replication eror so as this area be utilized with showing erosion control to utilize this area um I anticipate will be cleared so they can use this as stockpile for the soils coming out coming out of the Wetland area so that
they can then be placed here once this is excavated the driveway would be built incrementally beginning at Perry Hill Road working our way in um and working again within a corridor of erosion control on both sides there's a c shown
at the low point for connectivity um from the West to the East and as we continue [Music] on second sheet pretty much shows [Applause] the project which is the construction of a
home highlighted in pink um this line represents the buffer zone you can see just uh the South West corner of the property is outside of the buffer zone that'll be the location of the leing field and basically majority of the fill
is for the leing field outside of the placement within the buffer zonea this area right here just to fill up to make the house look right there's a retanning wall on this side walk out basement uh towards the rear of the house and a driver in the garage just a mirror image
of the other one on the other side that house being right here um so we did show 30 foot no activities here um we got greater than 30 here does Pinch down a little bit over here because we're the bottom neck down between the wall and
the wetlands and over here we're at 15 ft and again we're putting Boulders around this this Bend here if you will uh of the weapon system um in front off is proposed of the house the last sheet essentially is the
setic details and whatnot so all right so this one here Dave was the only one that D sent us a letter back on um they wanted us to review the Tweet y yeah that's standard for them to put
that in I noticed in the last year or two few to review um the criteria for doing a we Crossing yep and I believe I covered that in 07 10
in so the minimum ratio is a 1: one so whatever you fill you got to be one to one minimum wor 5,150 versus 4700 um the finished grades of the replication area um are proposed to we
carving out that hill to match the grades uh so it'll be at or below the existing Wetland grades uh the same the replication area is at the same general area as the altered area it is it's immediately Downstream to the left um the replacement area will have
hydraulic connectivity we're proposing a c to make that connection um and and then they require 75% of the indigenous Wetland plant species to be reestablished within two growing Seasons um and this will be monitored once it's
built by the W scientist reports will be submitted yearly um until certificate compliance is issued and we have to wait at least two growing Seasons um those are generally bullet points for wetland replication uh alteration
replication um so on the noi we don't get the list of what's going to be planted or the complete uh verification details yes so we already have that yes it's in the noi it's also on the plan um if I go down the last
sheet there a detail replication area this is the detail for the replication uh this is the list of plants and trees shrubs ground cover Wetland seed mix and this actually is uh
cotton paste from the noack and this is the uh construction methodology for the replication alteration replication area so all of this from the no is put on the plan so so
um so I and I'm not familiar with what's what would be uh Disturbed that would would be being replicated is it is it is it a forested area coming in or is
it yes it's forested it's a a tree area yeah so so there'll be trees cut down trees replaced okay and you said and you said that there's a a coat you'll use it covert to
maintain a hydrologic connection correct what's the and and I'm sorry I um what what what's the what's the diameter is it 12 in by 12 in by yeah and as as Jimmy said we got um
not notified by D about um this issue and just ensuring the replication um fell within the guideline so
um um and as you mentioned the reporting the two growing Seasons uh I definitely would want to be present notified when that going on I mean not
all the time but certain to come in in case there's anything not you can condition the project that way if you condition it that the Wellen scientist calls the office and schedule a meeting for his inspection yeah and and
preconstruction actually I think that's that's fairly standard standard have we done a study on this David where we're impeding the Wetland areas again Turtle uh program uh any anything that we should be concerned
about out there comping out there it is not mapped there's some to to the north on the other side of wrote I believe but not not there sure anyone
else okay well then I'd like to entertain a motion to uh for the noi with the conditions of um notifying the agent or the commission um preconstruction and construction dur
during the replication do I have a second second no I Mo second second they did all those in favor all right you got it thank you you're welcome make a
close last I okay uh I'd like attain a motion to close the public hearing motion to close the public hearing all those in favor do you want me toose the other one good sure I'd like to make entertain a
motion to close the other public hearings Number 601 motion second second all those in favor all right now discussions deep work state at se number 00 one-52 three Mr
joke Joe cell is requesting a waiver regarding the stor m security when the stor m p bmp's best management practices are complete review of matters presented votes may be taken Mr Costello yes how you
thank you how are you good evening just want to follow up on a couple weeks ago we were in discussing we're having an issue getting a shity company to give us a bond because the Bas is AR complete yet and you guys are going to take another advisement and give us upate saw on the agenda so
I okay so um what I was looking into is what about a shity on the construction project at the beginning then when the construction's done then we switch that over to your second security uh security for the Basin but I believe there's
already some security with the town for the road I don't believe we need any additional at the moment we're putting up the money for the project yeah I know but I don't like the assurity for the Basin to be after truthfully so how we can we about when
they're completed what's that what about when they're completed before any lots are released like just let the work be completed okay so then this is a verbal right so what you're telling me is you're going to say okay we're going to build this after it's built we're going to give you a shity that's what you're saying right that gives you nothing to stop from selling them oh you guys stop
us we can't everything has to be completed before we can even put a lot to sale we we [Music] can I don't know so it was advis for me to let you know that put a shity on the project
okay once that you get the basins in and them are completed then we can drop that shity and you we won't drop that one until you come up with the shity for the Basin but that first one will get dropped as soon as you produce the one for the second I just find that that's unprecedented from what I understand I
haven't seen that being done on any projects prior so I know that you should be able to get a charity then for the base and prior to building it we've had it done before other companies asked actually the town to produce some records of some past of past projects they have not given us any
updates so it leads me to believe we are the first ones right now no one's ever given us any stuff we even called today the town administrator's office no response how many days ago did he put in the uh um public records information jeez months ago what
was it think it's and I thought this was more of a discussion amongst yourselves I was just coming to listen I realize I was going to be up yeah uh Mr mitt uh what if we have Mr look into
that but if he have to put in for what he's asking I don't think that's that's to if it's put in the noi would he have to go for an amendment um to re just have the condition at the end added that he can get it at the end of before he
puts in any Lots we'd have to sit down and write out a correct can can I so just to clarify what the question is so I heard I heard basically what you heard I think Jim
that the town would like to see assurity for the build the the construction and postponing assurity for maintenance so that's kind of the
question right so your question the question but let me ask from that from that the question would be can we condition if the commission approves an noi tonight with this kind of hold on we're not asking for an noi to be
approved okay no no I'm sorry I misspoke this the listen I'm sorry EXC this question can you research and find out if we wanted to put in for a to redo a small thing like that would we have to
go in for would he have to come in for an amendment to have it added to the existing noi but isn't it storm this it added to the can we can we condition that that
before in of getting another shity that yeah so I don't it would condition a a situation where Lots were sold there was no rec Cann get sold speaking again he's he's just
asking he's asking to have it so at the end before any lots are released or sold that he has that put in place which I personally don't think that's out of the ball field of being reasonable and but do we have to and I what I was trying to
say long we get it secured so we know it is I agree something so do we have to would we have to put in how I don't know what we'll do Mark if you don't mind we're gonna have you research it see how we put this in writing so we know that we covered all bases that's it as soon
as MK resource says figure out how we're going to put it in writing I'll have him get a hold of you say this is what it is we'll email it to you make sure you're fine with everything that's said and then we shouldn't have a problem I have a meeting tomorrow morning so Town
Administrator I can start there and I I I know you have my contact call there's no rush know just wanted to get everything on the table maybe you could come maybe come back next meeting we should be able to have them answer for oh this was only a discussion put it on
discussion for next meeting yeah we can or we can just have M call him and go through it once M figures it out well I all right I think that's a great idea for his but I think it might be also a great idea for the public to be aware of that they could do that all right Joanne do we want to put that on the next
meeting for a discussion so we'll bring in up again M will get a hold of you um let's see if we can just make this all work together go from there appreciate your time all right have a good evening thank you all right next [Music]
okay next on the discussion yeah that was way before us another concern I don't know at end of project okay discussion 550 Main Street naison solar site update on drainage issues reviews of matters
presented votes may be taken Steve how are you guys hey Steve let us know who you are Steve and then we'll start uh coo naison um I'm back to give you an update we were coming back we've been working with Bill I asked Bill to stay when he was here earlier he was on his way out I just wanted him to be here to
hear this and interject as needed um Meridian and Bill are working on Final ass builds and and the design make sure everything's copesthetic he's asked for a couple things meridian's updating that so I said I wanted to get everything locked in where the asilt is where the
design is I've also told this board and I've done this so if anyone said otherwise I really would like to know cuz I don't think we have we've closed up all the basins again Basin 3 is all closed up we're not discharging towards Walsh we are pumping from three into two into one and we're using previously
approved methodology out of two there's a standpipe that we used there a long time ago and then one is just free flowing the way it is we're going to be ready for this weekend we're watching this I have cameras set up all over the place and we've been maintaining it we're working with Bill on getting
everything done we still once we get that set then I want to come back in March and say this is the plan like we're still working on a plan we still need the grass to grow about how we're going to get this out but we're starting to discuss some ideas that we're thinking so we still have some time and
I'm still not discharging any water until bill says I can so I think that's it's moving a little slower than anybody wanted but we have some time and I'm managing it I'm not discharging anym so if there's been any complaints about us discharging we haven't I still would
like to say that if anybody does just let me know um we're we're we have cameras set up all the time out there with their night vision we'll have guys out there this weekend so we're still standing up to anything so Bill anything to add on that um I don't have too much to add
other than what Steve has said is is accurate um Chris Ryan and I are working on going through a few of the things on the on the asilt plan um making sure that everything that needs to be there so that we can justify and check
everything sing Water Wise is is on that plan so there's a couple things he needs to do with that I took a ride out there on Saturday after our onsite and did note that the basins appeared that that no water was leaving we didn't do a detailed walk through but the water
elevation was much higher say in Basin 2 than what it had been previously and you know it's pretty apparent that were're just staging water in the basins as as intended and um just working through through the process as soon as Chris gets me the information we'll look at uh
where it all stands and do complete our review on the storm water I didn't go through it all because really prefer to have that updated information so that we can verify everything that's presented to us okay so by March 12th is he going
to have the complete as bu he will okay yeah and what I was just going to say was once we get that I have promised this town I've promised multiple boards that I will come back with a written plan of what we're going to do in the spring once it starts to thaw and free and so how we're going to get this going
so that we can finally just walk away and say yes we need vegetation growing out there bill and I are already talking about some amendments maybe to outlet control structures but that'll all be in writing we'll probably have to come back after the March 12th meeting again but my ultimate goal is to present to this
town a plan an interim plan to say what we're going to do until everybody signs off on it okay the other thing is like I said I think that U the as built was real important too so we know what was built out there yep we've gone out we've resurveyed everything cuz there were some questions on the on the on the uh
the level spreaders which I heard you discussing earlier so um we've checked we're checking everything so we've done all that and all the little dep and all that yep so sounds good okay thank you so if
anybody like I said if anyone calls or or says anything after Sunday let me know oh we got your number I know you do I thought it left with Ryan but you know actually that was that was passed he passed it right out I'm sure he did
so but uh and uh I have a a invoice that I'm trying to get money down for for you I'm going to get that wor the check's been requested so all right I'm going to in touch with the agent so all right so the as far as the build are you going to is he going to get it before March 12th so we discuss it March 12th yeah all
right good good good good we should have it in the next two weeks sounds good all right okay sounds good have a good evening thank you all um only to go as discussion on the Y no motion needed 12th March 12th
12 guys see you then okay next discussion 275 M the road discussion of relocating removing and replanted trees on the southern side of property chaining fence uh surrounds the backyard review of matters present presed votes
may be taken 275 men the road I actually got a phone call from Lauren the owner um they have uh they're going to be having wires put in their property with poles um they didn't realize that it was going to be right next to the house but it's going to be so urce and them are
working together about uh replacing the chain link fence because the chain link fence can't be underneath the wires um they're talking about removing all this Shrubbery that this has been like you walk on that property you'd swear that this property is there not no easements
no nothing but all the established trees that have been in there for 20 something years that's all coming out um it's all close to the uh Wetlands real close to the wetlands um so they are going to come back to it she has to have it not um she didn't want to be here this
evening she had too much going on with everu and er figuring out the final things they actually now wants them to put a delineation line I think urce is going to do it for him so they're really going back and forth with urce um my own personal opinion I think this is going
to be hey if there's a fence there and you got to pull this chaining fence out and put a vinyl fence back I think they should be able to do it um but it's something we'll discuss walk through and go from there once she finds out more from eversource but just kind of wanted to give you guys a head up they they're
dealing with that before big p okay agent update M what do we got anything uh so quick I spoke to um chance um new BET for agent uh shared a lot of stuff that Eric
had brought up but um he's in um um yeah so we communicated um um you know one of the things um that he he discussed and
um and I and I agree and this has come up a number of times the weed weed removal great project that were treating symptoms so he chance suggest it and this you know some type of Outreach
education to the public I don't think we can tie that into this NE necessarily this project but we could perhaps ask for signage there at the you know the boat ramp you know please you know make sure check your props check your paddles
you know we have this again that would be something to discuss with I think Scott dag already mentioned that um in one of the meetings if I'm correct he did mention saying that he did want to put signs at the boat ramp um regarding keeping your boats cleaned and everything else so I think that'll be
something um the other thing that I wanted to discuss as far as the agent updates was m and I um and we all discussed about um everyone getting an email um with that email you can take in put down your concerns of what we want on the noi for this Lake Street project
you send it back to Joanne Joanne can print them all for ma ma can review them all bundle them up and put that as an noi so it gives us a a spot to give M what we think M will put it all into one then it'll be on the noi um and and
before the next meeting I'm going to share with Scott but I'll share with the commission I have a draft set of of conditions that that got circulated quite a while ago but they're taken directly out of D's aquatic vegetation
management policy chance have anything else to say I we kind of jumped off that um about what about him and his commission being involved and that was supposed to be so so chance basically
said that he he he would run this by and keep his commission informed he said that he can't speak for his commission but you know that you know is he going is he going to uh present to us a written memo of he you
would like to have done so that it can be presented to the board here yeah he said and you had mentioned that three things and and I Eric my apologies off the top of my head I don't remember exactly those three things but I know they were over lapping the discussion
we've already had what the conditions so he's going to share that I might also going to send him he wants to see the noi so I'm going to share that with him um and in terms of you know New Bedford Conservation
Commission chance was very clear that I'm speaking for myself right now but you know I think you know there's not going to be a conflict when did uh let's see what this week uh it's all let's see
um Monday Monday Monday Monday yeah yeah so Monday so when we get those emails guys from Mark let's uh really just concentrate on putting your thoughts down getting them sent back like at a real quick time so this way Mark has
plenty of time to work on that also I think once he gets all our chance will get a copy of what we say we're going to get chances um I think it'll be really good for everyone to get involved with this and give as much thought as possible I think we're going to have a
lot of repetitive thoughts which is fine because then M can say Okay everyone's saying this that's definitely a good one right so if we just give our thoughts on the email send it back get it back in a timely manner and let's rock and roll with that and and yeah so the sooner I get them and my plan is to circulate the
draft orders of conditions and including sharing them with Scott so go for the next meeting so we can hopefully be all the same page with that um that's that's the main one I I I will add I know we've
reached out to a bunch of well everyone if you haven't registered yet for this Mac uh I think Eric Heidi Jim so I know there's some conflicts I know Nelson going yeah are you going
yeah yeah so we want to jump on yeah sign me up for what Joan same thing is what Heidi and I in oh Doug yep Doug uh what about you Rebecca you want to take a look at them talk with Joanne she's already
are no a't the fundamental fundamental yeah but the one coming up what is it March 1st March 1 Saturday you you get the emails right yeah yeah so just go through you see the agenda and just pick what you could cuz you already done some of them yeah I finished my fun yeah but
there's like so many other classes replication I'm like replication a forestry one um correct manner on
um uh what's it called U do enforcement enforcement this is like all on the same day yeah but you got to just be careful when you're doing it so you got to pay attention to the times at first I got mixed up I was starting to go this way
and I was like oh man I have to go this way and just pay attention to what the times are and make sure they line up and you don't I try don't have too much dead time in between each one you don't want to pick one and and and and it's posted on Mac's what P the schedule I get all their
emails okay but just get back to julan as soon as possible so we can just get this through yeah um to be there you don't want to take the bus to the lunchroom you want to run down because the buses get crazy we found out that last year remember oh yeah we were lucky we ran down let's put
it that way all right other businesses any other business that may properly come before the commission not readily anticipated when posting 48 hours prior to the meeting future business the next meeting of the Conservation Commission will be held on March 12
2025 meeting to be held at the ACC cushion it Police Department yeah see because that came after a cushion it Mass with that being said I'd like to entertain a motion oh go right ahead just so
everyone knows we've talked about this I know a few times we got a request from Board of Selectmen and it's not just comcom I think it's all the Departments it's townwide to review fees so uh their next meeting
is uh fees to make sure that we're compatible with other towns all right yeah so we're going to look see what the other towns are we're going to bring it before the uh selectman if we're lower than everyone else or we're not compatible with the other towns that
gives us right to bump up a little bit um we're just going to see it see what it looks like we mck and I are actually going to start looking at that we got 30 days to give all the information to the select man then we're going to see what they say and this has been this has been ongoing for a little while we with
within the office and other things done yeah yeah all right I so with that I'd like to entertain a motion to adjourn the meeting motion to adjourn I'll second that all those in favor have a good
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