[Music] Good evening everyone. This is the meeting of the finance committee. It is Monday, uh, June 16th, 2025.
Do I have a motion to open? So move. Second. All in favor? Hi. Hi. And we don't have a a flag in here, so not going to do pledge of allegiance right now. Um, so what we have to cover today is a discussion of any un unfinished business
and outstanding items to take care of uh as well as uh ratification of the three different uh unions. So Jamie, is there any unfinished business or items that
that we have missed out on uh cover? I think I'm pretty much cuz I I wasn't at the last meeting when we took the last votes. Mr. St. Jean uh I shared that meeting. Everything was voted on correct. Yes. I think we didn't uh we
didn't do the uh didn't do the uh articles for the uh planning board. you and uh I as far as I I'm not prepared to do the
final board articles because I don't I don't do so good but those aren't well financially they're not financial you were referring to the planning
department just the the zoning article Oh yeah, I thought that we had to defer the school's article in regards to one of your contracting trains and we needed more information, right? Voting on that. I thought we deferred that one. Yep. We deferred it to to get more information.
We did. Mhm. We didn't have information on what the the costs were going to be because they didn't have it about entering into a a contract with them in order to have access to the plans that they paid for. Okay. And to my understanding, shortly
afterwards, wasn't it something like there was a a good chunk of change each year that we had to pay in order to continue to have access? Uh the as far as I know, first of all, the board put it on the warrant but didn't take a
position. It didn't. It's up to the schools and So to to convince everybody so we didn't take a position either. No,
there wasn't enough there wasn't enough information for us to take a position. We whether we said yes or no, we had no idea we said yes or no to. Okay. All right. That should be easy enough. So when they ask recommendation, we just uh sue. I will state it like that.
Depending who gets the the lucky draw of the I want even or odd. I got to go through that. Which one is Yeah. Which one is that? Because I want to know 30. Okay. You take an even I'll take the heat.
Now, as far as the collective bargaining uh we've settled two contracts and uh the ask me contract and uh we presented a deal to ask me
they voted no. So that article will be going forward. Okay. So we're not going to make recommendation on that. So when they make the motion on the town floor, it's only going to be for the Teamsters Police Union and the IAF.
Correct. Fire. Okay. And which one is that then? Fire. Which article is that? Uh 27 28 29. Take those. Which one's that? 27 28 29. It overlaps. So you take these.
So there I know that that that sounds like two odds you're trying to pawn off on them. I'm vice chair. Vice vice. I think she's going to be speaking more than she knows tonight. No, it's 26 27.
She said 27 28. Ask me it's 26. All right. So it be 27 28 is our place. So we're vote we're voting on those. So if it starts with an odd then you'd have to take that one. That's
fine. So 27 is is I AF and we're and that one is five. Okay. So we're voting on that one. Yes. And we're doing it now. I can tell you what's there and you can
uh vote on whether you recommend or not. It's a one-year contract. Okay. And it's a as far as the grid goes, it's a dollar across each step
increase. And uh then there's a second provision that they'll meet monthly to continue negotiations because there are a number of issues
that needed clarification. Okay. So they're just continuing discussions. This is a bandage. Yep. pages. Um, it's under it's behind which was this the train one pages that
was our 30. Yeah. And it's on it's 25 in this I just want to write down I mean that's page 25 page 25 yeah are so we missed you you're being very
positive I'm I'm being serious. He's trying to I'm not taking my page 25. I have article 17. Yeah, I know. I think we got to go to 30, right? It's article 30, right? It's article 30, which is the the train contract. Yes.
Energy saving performance contract with trained in accordance with Yeah. So, it's half 30. So, can we I just want to go back to uh trained. There was no vote because we needed additional clarification. Correct. Yes.
Deferring until we get further clarification on cost. There were no details on anything length time costs, what it entailed, ownership of the engineering. So,
but how did the how did the the motors look? They they put it on the warrant. Okay. So they're not recommending this. They didn't take a position. They're going to let take a position today. Okay. Deferring until further
information is available. They ask what information cost term 20. The term is 20 years. Um, but it says defined energy management services.
So, probably a a more specific term than just that's pretty broad here. Defined defined energy management service projects such as Yeah. Where does it entail? We we didn't want to give the school committee a blank card blunch to sign into a
contract for 20 years for whatever it happened to be just because we said yes to a something that didn't have details. Yeah. So, I guess you're saying Kristen, it's saying defined energy management service projects. Well, what are they defined?
Where is this defined? We need details and steps and costs associated with it. What do we get? What do we pay for? Okay. All right. So, now we have to uh
take take a vote on the uh contract. Two contracts the the team source police union and IAFF fire. Sorry. Which which article is that in here? 27 27 is the IAFF and 28
is the police. Well, Mr. Kelly just read through the IA FF. So, I'll make a motion as presented. Second. Got a motion in a second. Uh, any further discussion?
All in favor? I opposed. Motion passes unanimously. So now we have to do the team service police. Yeah. Okay. This is a three-year contract.
The cola is 222. There are provisions that mandate that the deputy chief's position is not a union position. There are provisions for
slightly increasing the town detail rate. And the town detail rate includes the tree warden. And for the outside detail rate, the
increase goes to 90 90 and 9750. Now the 9750 is what the company that has the flagmen are charging.
And uh if they were charging us for the fiber installation because there were so many uh details that weren't taken. So rather than have the flag win, we'd
rather have the public safety people. Mhm. There's provisions concerning grooming mustache beards. Uh there is also provisions on car time,
how it's approved and being able to take it in 4hour blocks. And uh those are the major points. probably the question over else you covered everything
I have a question about is there an accumulation in the contract for that uh I don't believe so but I don't know for sure I don't remember it jumping out of
that I don't know what the federal limit is, but I know it's in the fun. So, I believe it's already in the contract. So, maybe that's not necessarily going to change, but that's a significant unfunded liability.
Somebody wants to accumulate hundreds of thousands time paying them out 50 grand. Yeah. But what we really wanted to have people be able to do it in less than 8 hours.
Yeah. In the past they weren't able to Jamie is that outside detail is that limited to just certain surrounding communities like when they're doing they're hiring detail people do police officers do details anybody that's working in the
town all right so no other like they wouldn't utilize for haven or sharers vomit. It all depends if works in the clutch unit, he's going to get a W2 for
so get that right unless they directly do but the real issue here is uh there were so many nonpublic safety people that were end up doing detail work. Yeah,
they all the double PS and the fiber and everything. Okay. Is there a motion? I'll make a motion. I'll second it. Any further discussion? All in favor? Anyone opposed?
Opposed? The motion passes unanimously. All right. So, that covers all the contracts and um that's pretty much it for this meeting. Um, we don't have a a meeting uh upcoming meeting date as of yet. I will
keep everybody informed by email and end of the year. Right. Yeah, we usually do that. Yeah. So, I'll be on the lookout and uh and then I'll reach out to everyone uh to let everybody know. All in favor? be our turn.
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