Thursday, May 8th. Is there a motion to open? I'll make a motion. Second that favor. I don't have any mean minutes. Uh this month, no mail, no
appointments. Let's do a quick FY26 budget update. I know you guys I was there with you at the finance committee meeting. I just wasn't sure if there was anything else heard from the town yet. It was just kind of a Well, I if you look in there, I gave you a copy of basically what was the final as we know
it. At least that's what was discussed at the uh finance committee meeting. The only things that really stuck out stuck out that had somewhat of a conversation on them was the salaries for an accountant,
which we didn't have in the past. Now, we're we're paying $8,625 for an accountant. And then if you go down to the indirect cost section,
um all those items listed there, workers comp, unemployment, health, liability, pension, Medicare, those were all um health insurance and Medicare and unemployment were
in aspects of the budget that are no longer existing. For instance, fringe benefits was 42,500 for FY25 and Medicare was 11,325. So now the health insurance is
39,508. And if you add the employment unemployment, that's kind of what um the uh fringe benefits was. Um workers comp I believe is new. Maybe not. I don't know. Liability insurance, I don't
really know. it it didn't we couldn't find a way to equate that to the insurance number that had been taken out in the past. Um so those are now indirect costs that everybody can see everybody knows are part of the budget
and so on. And the only other thing that stuck out was capital projects where we have an $84,000 request as opposed to last year's 37,00080. So the bottom line is you have a budget that's basically
4.73% higher than last year's. And if you look at the budget breakdown at the bottom of the second page, you can see the comparison between salaries or what they refer to as I know they got some fancy name for
it there. Personal services. Um then the expense total then the indirect cost total the debt service and the reserve. So I did speak with Jamie Velasquez last
week and I asked her um for an update and she basically said what you guys did at the at the meeting was what's standing as of now. So I guess that's where we're at. Hopefully they corrected the debt service. They put some money back in the capital. My big thing was if they were
adding something, I just didn't want it being taken from you guys down the line. So, as long as we do it for the rest of the budget, this is kind of what it is. Yeah. I mean, it's nice to have those things separated out. Um, I just didn't know, you know, there's a couple of them that you knew came out before. Um, I
don't know if workers compensation was hidden in some other line item, but now nothing's hidden. You can see that. Okay, here's workers comp. So this year will be a good measuring stick because you can see how much you paid in workers comp, what you paid in unemployment,
health insurance, liability, pension, and Medicare. That way you can budget better for FY27 because you have something to compare to. The only thing that's missing that I'm not that I don't know where it went is the actual I mean
where's the line item for insurance of everything that's in this building and everything that's up in the right we had previously we had an insurance line item I believe that falls under liability yeah but that liability number that's only that's
13,48 including liquor it says yeah including liquor but that 13 I don't think that 13,498 is covering $1.6 million worth of equipment you got sitting in this building. Not to mention the pesticide building across the way
which has got $70,000 worth of stuff in it. So that was be my only question. I don't know where that what what line item or how that's covered in insurance because we used to have an insurance line item that was it had a
substantial down payment. We had 32,500 indirect costs last year, which I was told last year was was insurance, but that's where the budget numbers are. Should we ask about
that? Figure that one out. Well, we'll have to ask. I just want to make I mean, obviously it's covered somewhere previously. We just want to make sure we just make want to make sure it's covered because the the existing insurance folks um had requested um I gave them a uh a
purchase value and a current value um was it last year, the year before of all the equipment. I've updated in my notes um over time, but no one's really asked for an update from the town. I'm aware of that particular I see on
Dana you sent out last week whatever you know the town has like a master policy that covers everything within the town. So is this really how much do they parse out to any other requirement within it so I'm wouldn't be concerned that we also don't maybe it's just the way they're accounting for breaking
everything out differently this year than in the past. So then my question would be um now that this is finalized and we have that final budget number of 2.132 with a 100,000 in reserve my I'm
anticipating on forecasting out monthly our budget based on 2,32,000 and leaving the 100,000 reserve out. So I'll have that ready for the next meeting. So you'll I see what you're
saying. Yeah. Yes, we have forecast. I'll prep next next year's forecast with the 2,32,000 and break it down. My I have stated to um some concerns with and we've discussed this
kind of off camera, but off and on. Um in the history of this uh operation, our our the key to our success has always been the flexibility, right? on bad years. Quick
maneuverability cut back on costs. So my only concern is as those indirect costs increase that then limits your maneuverability on inclement weather and recessions and uh allows you less um mobility to make management decisions.
Um but we'll we'll cross that bridge when we get to it. So, I mean, when you have x amount of dollars that'll be tied up in indirect costs, that disallows you from saying, "All right, well, we got to cut this because you're not going to be able to cut it once it's been assigned to a line item to do something." Yeah.
Those indirect costs, I think they're they're promote those are um proposed as one items which you don't have any control over, right? but two items that really aren't something you can cut
unless you cut something else. I mean, workers comp, you could release really really reduce somewhat, but you'd have to get rid of some workers, right? You know, and so on. So, it's I mean, right now we if we had to hold back on whatever reduce hours, reduce
advertising, reduce pro shop purchases or food purchases. If play's dying down, we have some things that naturally will diminish and we can kind of save money in those spots and Steve would go through his budget. Um, but once those numbers are assigned to something else, um, you own them. So, I mean, we'll see
how far it goes. That brings us to uh, anybody have any questions about next year? So, I put FY25 on this because I want to see how we did in April and that Yeah. All right. So, I handed out your uh plans and actuals for uh April. We
had uh forecasted 224717 and we came in at 235470. And if you look down to the previous April, uh we had a a stormy April the the previous season. Um and we
did some cop path work so we only did 198. So we were ahead of that and ahead of forecast uh leading us to be approximately up u 165 166 rounded up. Um so we're we're holding our own and
then you can see May is forecasted at 262 and uh last year's actual was 286. So, if weather cooperates and as you see from the parking lot today, the sunshine, they're coming. Um, these
other golf courses are making um not as good a decisions as we're making and the play is coming. So, as long as we keep making the right decision, Steve maintains the course conditions and we get good weather and um we keep moving
forward. Any questions of Dana on on that? Looks good. All right. Steve's these next operations up here. Keep going in order.
Yeah. Um I basically uh just actually Steve's probably going to go over it. Um, we got a a a refrigerator for the outdoor uh cafe that's installed and up and running. The grill is is uh um functioning on weekends now. And
um uh we have an outing coming up. Old colonies coming up. We have three couchs, three couchs that four cs that need repair. They're coming in on Friday. I called supposed to be tomorrow. Yeah. Co will be able to fix those. So everything will be up and running. And uh we have aation planned
for next Monday and Tuesday. So they there's there's enough carts, right? So once those are fixed, they don't come bing. Yeah. And there's enough cuts for that one extra or do we have to Well, do
they how many I mean how many people do they that's the thing. I mean 172. You take the number you take the number of carts you have, right? you know, and multiply that by two and you know the number of people you can get in the carts. Now, of course, you don't want to
give away I mean, they need a cart, you know, so you can't give away the utility cart because if something happens, you need an emergency, you have to send that out and you might need a ranger or two. So you either stick with that particular number which you know is
usually 144 and then if you want to have you know then I would suggest the next time around buying two additional carts that are a different color or something that are Ranger carts that don't go out in Audi and so on so you have them you know for emergencies and stuff but the
the people who book you know 160 people and you only have 144 worth of carts somebody. We got a good number of them real. We'll be a little bit tight on this, but I think we should be able to pull it through. Um, and I talked with you last week about that, right? I think
we got this dialed in finally. And and I I'll I'll make a motion that from here on in with no exceptions, we do 144, no more. Yeah. I don't care who the heck it is. Is that an actual motion,
John? I'll that I'll make that motion that all tournaments are capped off at 144. Anyone want to second that motion? I'll second that. That's it. So we we don't have people
coming in and saying, "Well, we're going to cut." Well, I have four extra guys. Well, that How often does that happen besides the He used to have them quite a bit. He used to have it a bit. He used to have quite a bit, but you know what? your only other alternative, you
know, and you have to you shouldn't have an alternative because over 144 people, it makes the round long. It it just it's just uncomfortable, especially when it's hot, you know. And the other thing is is the course is designed for 144 players.
Period. It's more of a headache for you, Tim, and everybody else. If you add four more people, eight more people. We're not making a lot of money off of four people. No, we're doing a lot better if we don't Yeah. Well, and and to to the
outliers, I've spoken to the the commissioners and shared with them that look, they're not they're out. I I know the outing you're the commissioner for, but they are our customers. So, the overall perception of the business, if you're putting out people out there and they're staying out there for 6 and 1/2 hours, that doesn't reflect well on us.
So, let's style this in so everybody enjoys themselves. Have a good day. Yeah. Guys, come back. they have an outing they can make. I mean, you just don't have to have golf people. You can have people who sponsor a sign. Maybe there's some people want to contribute who don't play golf. So, you have a
special category for them. But you get FOMO, fear of missing out. That's what ends up happening. Yeah. But then they get then they get they get out there and they get aggravation of of of moving nowhere. Well, they realize and then they start to drink more and the more
they drink, the more upset they get. $40. That's it. And I actually we have some outings that will cap at 128 cuz they don't even like 144. It's a nice It's a smoother round. I mean, it makes it a lot easier for everybody around those people that are running these
fundraisers. Like when I I I always did 144. I didn't go over 144. Hey, you're late. Too bad. I can't do nothing. You didn't have a problem doing that. No, I know. I know. People just too I know that. I know. I know. And I, you know, I talked to you about that. Is it official
now? It's official. 144 is I don't think cuz John made a motion. Adam seconded it. So all in favor I I Right. So 5. It's official now. We're not going to cut anybody off who's already booked. But going forward, yeah, you could
really smart. I think it's a good idea. Absolutely. I agree. Clarify that's for the players, not just extra people to help out players. And the other thing too, if they, you know, in some of these outings, they really need to tell us if they want if they need extra people to
help out because not so much us being extra people, but the extra people aren't walking out to the 15th hole carrying a table. So, they're going to need some way to get out there. They're going to need a cart. They're going to need if they run out of supplies, they're going to need something to get
back in. He usually takes care of that. you know, he'll he'll he'll or he'll pack up the carts and and just drive them out there and not leave a cart, but just leave all their stuff out there. And and and nobody had carts as far as I know.
No, what I've done, I would allow the commissioner of an event, one cop, right, to go and manage and, you know, visit teams and kind of, you know what I mean? It's camaraderie. you're selling your your tournament to everybody. So, you want to make your presence known.
So, I allow them that opportunity to do that. But when they start asking for three, four, five, six, I go, "Listen, you get one. If you want a cut, it's a,000 bucks a cop." And then they go on it. Well, you have my problem. Team Noah
shows up here at 5:00 in the morning and the first thing the guy's doing is flagging me down asking for carts. And I said, "Well, you know, I don't have any." And you know, I'm not going to take carts out of their line, give them to you because then that'll, you know,
so I end up eventually taking them out initially or giving, you know, letting them use one of ours. But, you know, our carts are, you know, and then then you turn around and you've got two people in the seats and three people standing in the back and the person hanging off the the tailgate, you know, so that's why
the insurance is 32. Just say I handle grass. That's all you have to say. a joint way situation. Yeah. No, we don't need that. All right. Is a major repair that's needed on those parts? Um, no. I think
one of them smells like gas. One of them that needs a spring replacement, and I think the other one or two won't stop. So, it's There's one of them that's missing a drive belt. I don't know what happened to it, but it's not there. That's why when you step on the gas, it just spins, spins, spins. There's one
that's leak has a gas leak has to be found. There's one with a broken leaf spring in the back right side of the cart. And there's one other that they just bought down today that Wall-E said been sitting there for a while and
doesn't know what's the deal is with it. So, okay. Hopefully that guy will find out tomorrow. They should be able to have them all fixed. The only one I'd be somewhat concerned about is the leaf spring one because that's I don't know how somebody broke the leaf spring, but it's there hanging on the ground. So
that's I don't know if that's usually something they carry on the on the air. Are we offering draft beers going to be live? Um not this week. No, but I'm going to try and create a feature beer I think. Yeah. Nice. So we did that a
couple couple years ago. Um it worked out quite well. I just got to kind of retrain the crew how to pour tap beer cap it drafts. Clean clean the tray at night. You got you got that coming up? Yeah, we have the truck. We got a truck
with taps. So, uh like the Budweiser thing. Is that what it is? Mhm. Oh, okay. So, uh it's like an old Cisco trailer. Yes, that's exactly what it was. How does he know that? cuz the Nucket did it. I didn't even see that.
Look at that. He's observant. Very observant. Very observant. Yeah. So, yeah, we're going to run that. Check it out. Um, typically you guys won't order drafts while they're playing. They'll order all the canned and bottled stuff. Uh, it's easier to drink while you're playing, but usually that stuff
takes off when you have outings and people finishing up. They'll get a draft. What's the What's the price? Uh, I haven't come up with it yet, but it's probably going to be maybe five bucks for a draft beer cuz we're at six and seven for the other beers. So, a dollar off to get the draft, something like
that. About right. Yeah, we'll probably do we might do two beers. One one like a flavor and one like a featured beer, whether it be a summer or an IPA or something that's different. We got Steve. All right. Um, just a few things. Um
nothing new or significantly um different. Um we are in a good good growth phase now. We've got a little bit warmer temperatures and increase in rain and everything is uh starting to pop particularly the uh poa seed heads. So
if you look at the fairways they kind of look like they have a white cast on them at times. That's the seed heads popping up. Um those will probably take about another week, week and a half um before we uh dispense with those. Um that just
it it makes for a little bit more difficult cut and a and a raggedy appearance just because they just keep on pushing and pushing seed heads. So, um, did want to mention that this month and the month of June probably are the two most important
or busiest months of the spring and early summer in terms of us getting things back in shape, but also getting it in shape for the summer stress period. It's usually begins late June and runs through the first or second week of September. Um, it also
unfortunately for us in municipal circumstance coincides with the last two months of the year where we have We need to make money because our budget year is over July 1st. So, there's going to be, needless to say, from here forward to the end of June, there's going to be a
lot of running around trying to get caught up and so forth. Um, just an update on the fourth green. It's starting to uh recover. It's at a somewhat of a slow pace because we really haven't had overnight
temperatures to keep the soil very warm. um that's not as big a deal for existing turf, but for seedling turf, you need to have that that warmth to seed the soil contact in the uh and the moisture. Um so once we get a little bit more warmth,
that'll start to kick in a little bit further. Um work on continue our uh fertility and top dressing. We've taken one old walk mower and set it up at a different height to cut that uh green with. You don't want to be cutting a green that you're overseeding and trying
to get seed to grow at the lower heights that we cut the other one because the seed just won't survive um once it germinates. So, um did want to point out as Dana mentioned, Greens Aation is Monday the 12th and Tuesday the 13th. They were
closed on Monday and we're opened at noon off the first tea on Tuesday. And then um in anticipation of trying to uh miss or work around these crummy
weather we had in April, we decided to to cancel the maintenance Monday on the 19th of May. Um basically again what that means is we're going to have to try and do more running around um than we normally do. and um is, you know,
especially this time of year. I mean, we don't get our summer staff um you know, our six other summer staff are in until um they're out of school the 13th of June. So, it would be the the following Monday, 13, 14, 15, and 16th. So, that
basically gives us what 30 days in June, 2 weeks um of them before we turn to July. Um, so far as equipment is concerned, everything is is up and running. Um, we
do have a list of proposed equipment um that we've been looking at for a while here to plug some dates into it. Um, for instance, we did discuss and put forth uh on the article for the upcoming town
meeting the two air raators. Um, and then hopefully we can look at the Ventrak rough mower in the fall. And then in July of 2026, we're going to have to look at utility vehicles and a
replacement tractor, probably up in the neighborhood of 50 horsepower. One thing I will mention is that the quote price quotes that you see there will need to be updated because they only give you price quotes now for 10 to 15 days and those came back in February.
So I I don't anticipate a significant increase. Um right now most of the equipment producer producers have caught up and now they're they don't have the large delay window. Uh, we'll see how long that lasts because everybody's
still buying. I did want to keep on everybody's mind the proposal for the additional storage space. As you can see, there's little to no space in this building. At the beginning of each uh at the end of each day, it's a task to get
everything in uh without people tripping over and busting ankles and what have you. And then in order to do any type of work in this shop, we have to move every piece of equipment outside. So it is something of importance um that I'm
going to continue to stress as we go along and I hope that we could combine something like that and the rough mower for an article proposal in the fall uh fall town meeting. Um and last item here
is cart path work. Um the uh all the car paths have been installed. All the BMS have been installed. Um we started uh back filling along the uh the BMS. Um the wet weather has made it kind of difficult because
it's kind of hard to spread mud, but we were able to finish the first the first T and um we'll be moving on to the 10th T and then the 183. Um, and I've in the past we had soldered those. Um, of late I haven't really been
uh that satisfied with the future or the uh long-term uh growth of some of the sod uh especially um the area to the left of the second green. So, we're going to seed these areas. Probably what
we'll do is we'll we have some uh some black uh construction mats. We'll probably put one or two mats out in areas where people to walk across. Um, and then once the seed comes up, we get it cut twice. Then we'll take the mats
out and people can walk on those areas and we'll have to seed the uh the areas that the mats were in. Um, we'll see. Uh, hopefully um the little bit of work that that Dan did as far as angling the car path and stuff on the first hole
will take care of the runoff. I don't expect to have too much, but we'll see what we end up with after tomorrow's rain. And like I said, um we'll be moving on to 10 and then to the 18th green. The 18th green is going to take a little bit more work because we're going
to try to repair that the left side of that embankment um just adjacent to the burm. And we're going to try to in doing that, we have to raise it up a little bit. We're going to try to direct the water in the swale so it runs down doesn't it doesn't pull
and puddle or run into the bunker. So it's going to take a little little work on that but not not nothing that we can't get done. So and other than that didn't have anything else. As you're coming back up to the clubhouse on 18 to the right side of the car path
you just going to try and leave that like it is. You know what I mean? They just I think what we may do with that is um I I talked to Dan. They have a uh they have a little contraption that they put on front of their uh um skid steer.
Um it's basically kind of like a rockound. I'd like to take that over top of that once or twice or just peel it back with the backhoe. Then we could take um you know we could we could loom it. Um we did uh last week Dan came in
and he um took the entire storage pile that we had on the back of the driving range from years and years of whether sod or whether it was soil or whether it was sand. Um he took it over and he screened it. Screened it.
So um we have that available to use. Um it's good material and um I mean there must have been I don't know dozen and a half you know big trucks worth going out. So there's there's a decent amount of material there. Um and uh yeah
cleared the whole the whole hill. So we'll have we'll have that to use and uh probably what we'll you know we might try to put a little bit of grass there but you know in the I mean it's so rocky and bony and woody over there. Um,
if we could just smooth it out, you know, um, we'll seat it to a rough mix or a clover mix just so there's something there to hold everything together. Wood chips, maybe. Or is it too much? Well, I don't like to put wood chips that close to play because golfers don't like hitting balls out of wood
chips. So, try to try to keep the the wood chips in in areas where they're not going to be in in a close to play. We'll figure it out. It'll be, you know, we'll get it cleaned up. It's just a question of keeping up
with the other things prior to um prior to getting on that. I mean, we had we had to send both sprayers out today to get greens greens of cars and tea sprayed and then um you know, hopefully I mean, we missed our opportunity to spray fairways because of the rain. Uh some of the
materials that we had um scheduled to go out, they have to sit on the leaf blade. If they don't sit on the leaf blade, they don't get absorbed and then it's you're basically wasting about four or five gram. So, we hold that held off on that. Hopefully, we can get to that next week. Part of that was taking care of
the seed heads. So, they're a little bit heavier than than people might be accustomed to. Any other questions? I have a couple questions and comments uh on the equipment. Um I think for us as a committee it might be beneficial you know uh say for
fall 25 you mentioned a a vent track rough mower. Um, maybe it would be beneficial for us before we make a motion to uh make a purchase on equipments to
maybe get a little show and tell from you, Steve, as to kind of why we need the the the purchase and and wear and tear or whatever it may be on these. I um not to interrupt, but way back when when we first proposed that I did we did
that. Um so I can provide you with the information that everyone else was provided for uh provided with. But yeah, that's not that's not I just think it, you know, we should be they're decent purchases. I think we should have a little bit. Yeah, we went over the vent
track with the outfront deck mower plus the uh vertical mowing arm and also the uh the outfront um you know, for lack of a better word, native area mower. Um those are the three attachments. The other nice thing about the Ventra is it
it facilitates a significant number of other attachments. Right. Okay. Like why we need it, what it helps you with, right? Just a little run for Yeah. Um, okay. And then the proposal for the additional building. Um,
uh, I guess John, I guess a question for you cuz you have a little bit of experience with golf course you're employed at and and they're building. And I know they have only half a golf course, but kind of how does it compare? You know, how does their space compare to what we have here? And is it is it the same kind of situation? Just as bad,
if not worse. Okay. We got two containers that are just bought another one totally full. Um, and it is still, you know, you got to in order to get everything in there at the end of the
day or the carts, we we have to turn them off, put them in freaking neutral, and manually turn them so they fit and you can get everything else in there cuz there it's so tight. So, you know, here
what he's talking about. Yeah. It it's I I would think, you know, golf courses like this and where I'm at, it's a common problem. It's a major. It's a major problem. It's it's been a problem for years. I mean, you could, you know, you could look at reservation, then you
could jump in a car and drive over to TPC where you could eat your lunch off the shop floor. So, there's you really have to kind of equate it in the number of buildings. the separate building for the sprayer just to mix and load the sprayer in that one building. They don't
mix and load outside. They mix and load inside the building with catchment, drainage, all that stuff. Um, you really need to look at what your needs are and where you're going to go into the future. Um, and a lot of, you know, we have attachments. You have um slice
seeders, you have the roller that we spoke of earlier, you have air raators and so on that and other equipment that should be stored in that building. And so we could make this a true shop. This
is not a shop compared to what a modern repair facility for golf course equipment is. And if you're going to move into the future with all the changes in technology and everything else, I mean, threequarters of the courses now all employ an assistant mechanic because there's just not enough
time for one person to cover everything. And really, your main mechanic, your nuts and bolts guy, the guy who knows everything, he's not the guy you want changing oil and oil filters three or four times a week. He's not the guy, you know, you want him overseeing the grinding, but in order to
get the best cut that you want to you want time and time again, you have to have that type of equipment and you have to have that type of setup where you can get that done and you have to have a shop where you can move around. So all the equipment, just to kind of keep going on, all the equipment we have
here, we use. Yes. There is there isn't anything we don't use. It might not like an overseater don't get used every day. I understand. Yeah, they may get you. I mean it gets used once or twice a month or maybe more on the driving range T and then of course when that time comes time of the year when
you're actually doing more your overseating then you're going to use that significantly more but there isn't anything that's sitting here that that doesn't get used. The only thing that we didn't use last year one piece of equipment was the the bunker cleaner
because only Kevin and I know how to run it efficiently and we just couldn't get a chance to get it out there. what it does. Saves the sand, takes out little stones and and debris and other things that may get in there, but other than that, everything here is used. So, I I look at this, right? So, we we made the
motion for the the two air raators, right? And that that comes out to, you know, roughly 83 $84,000. And maybe we did this wrong. Maybe in before we get more toys, maybe we get the space to put the toys, which is really $80,000, right? So, well, the the the toy the the
the two toys you're referring to as air raators, they're going to be replacing the two other ones. So, the two other ones are going, one of which is this little green thing out here. So they're actually not adding to No, but I'm saying if we could have you, you know,
the two airators that you have, you you push out one more season, you get you get a new building for the same price, and then now the next season now we can we got space to put them. Um, you know what I'm saying? I know what you're saying. Um, so you know, I look at I see
a vent track mower, I see a utility vehicle, and I see a utility tractor. um coming up in the future. I I think, you know, maybe we have to look at make sure we have the space for this stuff before we start to and and I'm not saying get a get toys and get a space. I
think maybe it's one or the other. I don't know. We have to talk about it. But that's that's how I look at it now. Well, you again, I mean, like I said, I'm not going to be here in 10 years. So, what I'm trying to do No, my wife my wife will shoot me if I'm here. So,
you're going to be at 9 and 3/4. uh she might shoot me for for that. But what I'm trying to do is is get you caught up. But just as a for instance um if you use now we don't have one on this side. The the 4500 which we use to cut rough
the new 4500 cost 85,000 bucks. That's almost more than you know depending on how cost change that would be more than the bloody building. Yeah. And you know again in order you know you can't stop using particular pieces of
equipment because you don't have a place to put them yet. I mean these I mean the guy even my guys get mad at me because I cram these two buildings full and I said well I want to have the flexibility so I can need to do what needs to be done and I want to be able to do it in a timely fashion. Right. But if you can't fit
anything else in it you can't get the two equip. I know exactly what Adam's trying to say. I understand what he's saying, but what I'm saying is the time to work on this is now because you know as well as I do that this might take another year to two years because no
matter what this group at this table says, there's three people down in town hall that you have to convince. And by the time you convince these three, possibly you're going to come up to an election and there might be another one that you have to convince on top of. I think it's better when all of us agree
first. If you told me if if Steve you said look we need six I'm not going to let me put it this way. I'm not going to sacrifice the capability to do proper aation for a building. That's why I put those two in in ahead of the building. Right. So yeah. So yeah, if if you're saying like what you just said, like if
you're saying utility, Adam, we need six utility vehicles or else we can't operate, you know, it's going to hurt revenue or hurt the the course maintenance, then that's something we can make a decision on, right? And then propose to the higherups, right? Yeah. I can swap out the ones that we have. So there's there's a net zero as far as
space is concerned. Right. So that was just I've been I was thinking about that the past couple of meetings. I just wanted to put my my two cents in there and just have a conversation. The last thing I had uh was on super hightraic
days like Father's Day being one of them. Uh the conversation I and I that's the one day of golf that I play every year was Father's Day in the morning. That's my one hall pass, right? Uh the the uh pin placement. So obviously
number one, one of the number one things should be pace of play on on high traffic days is what I would say is to try and get these 300 golfers in and out efficiently. And uh what can we do to make get these rounds of golf one 2 3 minutes shorter however we
can do it. And one of the things that I've seen in the past as a golfer is I see pin placements on nine uh pin uh nine is always comes into my head uh back uh where else I don't know some where you know uh a pin where if it's
tucked in the corner uh Timmy and his dad are out and they they play golf once a year and they and they're going to spend I mean they they just cannot get to that pin and yeah it's just going to it it adds it adds time. So my thought was, is there a way we can talk or have a conversation about putting those pins
in spots where let's get these guys on the greens, get them, get them out? Well, easy set up. You can put a pin anywhere. Getting somebody on a green, that's another story all together. I mean, I sat the other day. I was one of the first weeks out here. We had a guy
who called in sick and I was cutting fairways and I started on the first fairway at uh I think it was like 11:00 in the morning and the first three next three groups that came through. Now one of them hit the bloody ball in the fairway. So I'm cutting the bottom end
then I cut the top end. I'm cutting the top end and I'm watching their third shot. Not one of them hit the green. We see it. I mean I I make it a point to not you know be personally I mean there's only two people who change cups. myself and Kevin. And the only time that a a pin might be somewhat considered
pucked is if you look at ninth green, there is no place to put the ball. I mean, I I'm not going to put the pin on the side. He'll lie on the back of the ninth green. So, you know, when the hill comes down, you know, you got on it's been on the back. Well, you'll see. Well, it was on it was on
the back. It was on the back, but that's part of the that's part of the rotation. You can't continually put it in the same spot all the time or you're going to wear that spot. I mean, I can go out, you know, we will we will endeavor to make pin placements as easily as easy as
conditions permit during the days. Well, you know, gez, if you teach somebody how to I mean, you know, we need to get Isaac to teach people how to put guys out there, you know, he's not stroking, he's not practicing, you know, it's like, you know, the guy who took the dividend out of the 15th green on on
Friday, you know. So, we will endeavor to make the pin placements as easy as possible. Um, I did one year I put all the pin placements in the center of the green. Yeah, that sounds fun. No, it didn't have a significant No. Well, how do you know? Oh, how is there because I
could tell by the fact Well, there's no I mean, I didn't go out there and measure, but I could tell just by the way the people were moving around the course that they weren't going any quicker. I mean, I can tell. I mean, I can sit there and look, you got a 9-minute tea time. When you have when you have a group on the third green, you
have a group on the third T, you have someone waiting on the third TE, a group on the second T, a group in the middle of the second fairway, and a group on the second T. I don't care where your pin placement is. It ain't going to help everybody, but it'll help it. It'll help some people, but I really won't make it
worse. I don't really believe that pins have ever been stuck here. I mean, you may have one or two bad pins, but really I don't consider them bad pins. I consider them something that needs to be done for the better golfer to serious.
Listen, so I agree with that. Put them as easy as possible. Yeah. I mean, we'll find, you know, wherever comes in the rotation the best spots. And even some people who aren't that good of
golfers technically get kind of bummed when you consider making it so much easier for them. I mean really there's some people out there who you know anyone complain that that pig was too easy. I like to who lost the
whole sign especially at the level of volume that we're we're seeing at this point. I mean on that day definitely on the weekends they seem to be on the edges. This is just what I see. This is what my groups talk about. I would say during the week talk them wherever you
want. I don't know about weekend. It's not it's not I mean I don't I don't go out there to change a cup saying woo how much difficult can I make this shot. I go out there to have he does
three flat meters. Three flat sides. I do three flat sides and spreading out the wear, right? I totally understand. I don't look I don't look to stick a pin because like I said, I mean, yeah, if I was at the country club, then yeah, I might make some difficult ones. Even
though just because you're at a high-end club doesn't mean you're a decent golfer. No, you're right. But, you know, it's I understand what you're saying. Although I wish people would stop blaming conditions and equipment and start learning actually how to putt,
play the game. Yeah. Who goes first and the whole world furthest furthest from the ball. Where's your golf etiquette? You know, all that good stuff because I think that would probably speed things up. Hottest father day play is is people hitting in the woods searching for
balls. Yeah. And that's amazing because you got your kids with you, right? Let me go see if I can find my ball. Yeah. Okay. So that's 10 minutes. Well, Junior wants to find the ball in the woods. He want to play. But to your point, Steve, I mean, maybe McDana, maybe whoever's in the shop that day, maybe just kind of
give him a little boilerplate little sentence that says, "Hey guys, if you snowman, make sure the range is pushing." That guy that's buying two 18 packs of pinnacles, you know, for that one maybe, hey, hey, you know, by the way, ps of play, blah, blah, blah. You
know, there's a ranger out there. If you're in the if you're in the approach in the hole on a par4 and you're laying seven already, pick up that little stroke. It's just they just don't know. It's that's the thing. A lot of people don't get in your car. So in
answer to your question, yes, we will endeavor to make pin placements easier on high volume days. Cool. Thank you. There's guys out there that plumb bob going for eight. So uh I see it all the time and they they walk for three different angles. What What are you cutting for? That's TV, too.
TV. Pick it up. That's good. You're good. But I'm 40 yards out. That's good. Really? We got Alex Naja that putts from 20 yards off the from the fairway. He's good at it, though. Oh, isn't he so good at it, isn't he? It's insane. Oh, it's
crazy. You know, nobody ever does that. You know, take a bump bumping around. Alex takes his putt up. He He can't chip to save his life. So, he just putts everything. And he's he got to a point
now where he's pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. And he don't make divots with the putter. Depends on where you hit the ground. He doesn't. He doesn't. No. So, so that guy who left the one on 15, he was hitting with a wedge when he was 3 ft away from
the pin. The guy that was pissed off, huh? Yeah, I'm getting to the cups and the practice. Uh Dana, uh Sunday looks like nice weather. Y however, Sunday is Mother's
Day. Yes. Uh any any special deals or anything for play or we're actually uh we're almost booked. Yes. Awesome. Yeah, that uh that's crazy. Yeah, the dynamics have shifted. So that day is booked almost uh to 1:00. There's a couple of
tea times in through twilight to 2:00. I think everybody's tired of waiting on Sunday, so they do their Mother's Day thing the day before Friday or Friday because I thought it would be like Saturday. Saturday on Saturday and
Sunday, it's usually limited, you know, special menus and they don't go. I will not be here Sunday. I will. I'll see you. Any other questions right now?
This looks great. That's it. I just want to say it looks awesome out there right now. Yeah, I just put down the bottom the golf facilities exploratory communities. I went to the last meeting that they had. They're moving along. I mean, I think they actually made a little bit
more progress this last meeting than a couple leading up to it as far as keeping the the design within check and a budget that ultimately they come to us with. So, you know, it was a little over from what I heard in the early, but I think I think the architect is finally on board with a scaling it down to what
we want versus what he would envision for us in the beginning. So, that's why I think they're moving along pretty decently into a more realistic. There was some issues with actually where they want to put this. and and and that took a while. Yeah. Where do they want to put
it? We still don't know. Right. Well, it's still I think they're pushing back, you know. I mean, but my my thing with that whole committee, you know, if if you're going to that's the number one priority is where you going to put it and then you can go from there. But it's still kind of one here, one there, one
there. I don't know. What does the the architect want to do? cuz he says well the preference or the the other one is facing one and six oh over there. Yeah. When I watched the video it sound like he didn't want to
put it in the practice green like he didn't like it. I just it made sense putting it there long term. Yeah. I think I think well I think part from what I got on the very last meeting and talking to K was I think his dissuasion from potentially putting where the
practice screen was was the additional cost of them re having to rebuild the practice screen somewhere else a little bit more in the utilities I I doubt going to be that much extra 100 grand what the practice screen is is worth putting it there in the 10ear note or it
would be cuz we keep talking about what you think it would be is that Do you think I don't know I would have you know I I sure I tend to well I'm sure but I tend to keep my design ideas to myself because I don't want to complicate the issue but I mean just being
complicit of parking. Are you going to make people walk 200 yards to get into I thought about that. You know, so you have to think about that. And and you know, and you could with a uh you could with a little tree work and creativity have nice views from where the building
currently sits depending on or where the thing currently sits. Um which is right there to your hookup for your septic and all that stuff. And again, you know, you not only have the putting green, but you have the irrigation infrastructure underneath. But how much would a putting green be? just well you're going
depending on the the square footage you're going to be anywhere from 60 to 80 because the putting green's larger you know the other I mean you again you know you got to consider the basics who's your audience going to be what they're going to want make yourself something that can be expanded to in the
future and one other thing you consider that I haven't really heard anybody mention is uh is the um access or providing some space for these golf simulators That's what I want. The National Golf Foundation just sent out a thing last
week or last month in a discussion about that. And guess who the consultant is for the simulator setup and everything? Some guy named Richard Singer. So the same guy who did your report is the guy that they the the National Golf
Foundation refers to as far as these simulators. So, I mean, it's again, it's something to consider because there's a lot of people that aren't familiar with golf who can get introduced to golf through these things. And it also would be a great way to take care of people
during a frost. Just something else to consider. But as far as my, you know, my take, I would find a way to best suit the building where the current building is. And then I would have, you know, I would have a deck that you can see, obviously
you can see the 18th hole, you can see the first hole, you can see the sixth hole. Teach it. Either that or the only other thing you could do was be creative with the shape and not disrupt the putting green, but put it in the space between the 18th green and the putting green because you have ample space
there. But you'd have something that was shaped kind of like a horseshoe. But yeah, you know, the bottom line is there's still no decision on actually he's doing he he finished up with he's going to do
two plans to uh review. one at the where the putting green is with a a set uh location and positioned the way that we think would be best suited for the customer's perspective, which is the vision we should be taking in this cuz it doesn't really matter what we think
is who's coming, who's paying, who's staying, and the longevity of that. So, uh putting a building where we currently sit, it sits too low. You can't see over the planting green, you can't see 18. However, if you sit up on that hill,
it's a very uh different perspective. So, what we should do someday is go out there and stand, as most of you guys already know, on the ping green and take that viewpoint. I think that's the ultimate that's the ultimate and then you sit back in the hole of where we
currently sit and see how attractive that is. Well, you can always build the hole up. But, so that's what he's preparing. two different the thing you have to think about is is building the hole up worth $80,000 and besides that where you going
to put where you going to put a 10,000 square foot putting green where the trailer with visible access for for the golf pro and and so on. Yeah. Where the trailer towards where the trailer is now or the the tent or the tent. You got plenty of real estate to do all that stuff. So that was one of the things we
discussed real quick is I got I got that going. Yeah. All right. We'll address this when comes with the plan. You can continue. I have a week to go to so it's up to you. You want to continue? No. No. You can shut it down or fine with it. Continue without me. I don't know. When's this next meeting? So
we get that out of data. June. Oh, that's June 12. That's what I was looking for. 5 12 19 26. Five works for me. If you're looking at Thursdays, five and 12 work. Five doesn't work for me. 12's good for me. 12. 12 is good or
no? Yeah, that's 12 is four 12 is fine with me. Yep. Here. Sure. Maybe we even take some time and go outside. Great idea. Have a little field trip. Yeah, exactly. All right. So, bring the shoulder cam. June 12th. June
12th. 4:30 here. We'll put you on a cap with a stabilizer in gyro. Hope it's good weather and we'll do a little walking around. John, we'll get you one like they do like NFL football on a table. Get him strapped in.
All right. 4:30 again. Yeah. So without anything else is motion to adjurnn. Motion to adjurnn. Is there a second? Okay. Thank you very much. All right.