Good evening and welcome to the historical commission for October 14th uh here at the uh town hall meeting room. Yep. >> Um, may I have a motion to open the meeting? >> So move.
>> Second. >> Second. All in favor? >> All pledge to the flag. >> Come on, boys. Sorry. >> I pledge algiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Okay. >> These chairs are not comfortable
tonight, are they? can't get comfortable in them. >> I think we're too shy. >> Okay. Um All right. We need to approve the minutes from the meeting and it was when?
>> August 12th. >> Wow. >> All right. Uh the last meeting was held August 12th. September's meeting was cancelled. Meeting was called to order at 6:30 6:43 p.m. Minutes reading of the last meeting approved.
Church needs new steps. Scout will volunteer to help out. How's that going? >> I've asked Matt Chip. They're waiting for the uh scouts, the council to give approval. >> Mhm. >> Okay. Church looking to go on national register.
>> Yeah, we're still working on that. I haven't gotten an answer. >> Okay. monument at the library was moved to the new location at the fire station. >> Mhm. >> I don't know why they had to cut down two trees to do it, but they did. >> Yeah. >> Okay.
Slab was moved and set in place. Also, uh hopefully building will be put up for sale soon. Grant money paid for improvements to hallway at museum. Correct. >> Mhm. >> Okay. Meeting house trees need to be trimmed and removed. Has that been done?
I have not got an answer back from the tree warden. >> Okay. >> Whether he's got funds or not. >> Okay. We'll skip the next one. Uh meeting house picture will be put into museum. Pauline passed out paper and rules and
regulations for state properties for tearing down or preserving. Selectman have control over sale of old library. Hopefully there'll be stipulation to keep the from changing the outside of the building. The historic commission needs more
members. How to get them? That's a good question. >> Yep. They're going to send in their letter to the swordsman. The only thing I can see that's holding back sometimes of people that would like to get on the committees is the
thing you got to go through with the sort of um the conflict of interest. >> That's the law. >> You know, you know what I mean? I mean that and then you got to take it every two years. >> I have to take it for this. I have to
take it for the kum clone. Both of them. >> Yeah. Not fun. up. >> Okay. >> What you got to do? Okay. May I have a motion to accept the meeting uh minutes of the last meeting in August? >> I'll make the motion.
>> Okay. >> Second. >> Second. All in favor? >> I >> I Okay. Okay. This aside. Okay. Uh, under new business, the veterans monument has been
moved to the front of the fire station. Next is the stone with a centennial box to the new library. The DPW is going to move it. >> The what? >> DPW. >> What is it? You're moving the the stone in the front. >> The stone.
>> They're going to put that in the new library. >> Uh-huh. Mhm. Mhm. >> Um, we had the front hall at the museum painted ceilings, walls, and floor. The kids that worked for the town in the summer painted all the floors in the
meeting house. You should see how nice that looks. >> It looks really, really good. >> That's nice. >> Yep. Um, they did a terrific job. Mr. Kelly told me to look for other jobs that the kids can do next summer. He
wants to keep them busy every year. >> They do they paint? >> They painted the floor at the meeting house. Oh, >> they did. >> And that was a project. I bet >> because there's pews. >> They taped all around the bottom near the floor so they wouldn't get paint on
the legs. Oh my god, they did such a good job. >> Yeah. And I'm going to be able to use the meeting house next year if we want to do a car show. >> Wow. I'm going to be able to do it.
>> Uh the two things that they're very concerned about is I would have to talk to the police department. >> Mhm. >> To see if we need uh someone to direct traffic, which usually we use our own people, our own members. Yeah. >> But I got to ask them anyways.
>> And the other thing is the fire department >> where it's old cars and that many of them. He suggested that I should ask them because they may want to have a fire truck out there or EMT truck, something out there.
>> Is there enough room to have a garage over there? >> Oh, of course. You've done it before. >> Okay. >> Did for many years until I got stopped. >> I got to get in touch with him, too, to see if he's still doing it. Um,
okay. So, we have a guest from uh the Acushia Faven Land Trust to speak about waste factory, Kora Pierce. Welcome to our meeting. >> Um, good evening and thank you for having me. Um, my name is Cora Pur. I'm
the president of the Vhaven Accush Land Preservation Trust. Um, my family is been in the East Ver Haven and Aushna area since it was incorporated. I'm buried in every I have ancestors in
every burial ground um around and um even even the tiny one that's next to the gas station. Okay. >> There's even some there. So, wow. >> Um I'm very familiar with the area. And one of our properties which is known to
everyone as Whites far factory on Hamlin Street. Um we've had tremendous issues with for the last several years of vandalism. We've put up signs. We've even put up signs not only danger do not
climb um but poison ivy. We figured that might help you know to keep people away from it. It didn't. They just flung the signs. Um, and last year, you know, I spent over $200 on these, you know, danger, don't don't climb signs, and
they didn't even last a week. Um, and we found them scattered throughout the property. >> Um, and that was with it being closed, you know, cuz the Hamlin Street was closed most of last year and they were using our parking lot as a a staging area.
one of the street drains that they now have goes right to where our sign is, which is making it even wetter. >> Um, so we we've talked to a number of different people. I've offered to return it to a cushion it. I have offered it to
the coalition and the liability is just too great. It's every Mason that has looked at it, there's no way to to to to keep it from falling >> um at this point. So, um although I have
bids out at the moment, um for folks to have different masons, um we're I'm asking I wanted to come to you first um to to let you know that we do want to take it down. Um I know that people have had um especially when we had Mark
Fannif being our, you know, a Kushnet's man of the year for a number of years. He was our one of our loyalist volunteers when he was maintaining the site. Um, but he was there pretty much a couple of tight days a week and so the
vandalism wasn't as as apparent as it is today. Um, he was able to keep people off or or just pose them, so to speak, for their photo shoots before prom or weddings. Um, but that's no longer
really an option. Um, I know that when we do knock it down, we do have a lot of really nice long pieces of granite that we'd be more than willing to share with the town if they need a stone for a bench somewhere. Um, you know, we're definitely going to try and use some of
them on the property. Um, the Coalition for Buzzards Bay owns the property across the river. Um, so we can definitely set some stones so that people can uh have places to sit. We do have a picnic table that's down closer
to the water. Um, but I just really wanted to, you know, answer any questions that you have. And >> is there any timeline on this? >> No, I mean, I would like it to to happen in the next 6 months, but I'd like to to own Keith's farm in 6
months, and and I've given up trying to put a time frame on anything. M >> do you have someone that will tear it down? >> Um I've spoken to a few. Um I talked to Chris Means who's a local Mason. Um and he was talking to a few of his friends also. They had gone out there. Everybody
would love to restore it, but there's no way, you know, it's just it's too impractical. And even we we obtained it in 1998. um and everything that we were doing back and forth with the town of trying
to stabilize it. Um there there's really no way to maintain that structure because of the >> too far gone. >> It's too far gone, you know, and it's the same. We own Welden's um Welden's Mill as well down at the end of Welden's Lane and >> there's nothing.
>> Nothing. That's just a pile of rocks. >> Really gone. Yeah. >> Yeah. You know, so >> Yeah. Although there's a tremendous history that goes with the site and it helped to um you know to to feed many a family and a cushion it um it's no longer a a safe
location for for families to be >> you can just put a sign up. This was >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? And because on your first page here >> it says that >> that's not hers. That's mine. Okay.
>> I couldn't find that out. the deepest page, >> one of the first cotton mills in this in the nation provided most of the jobs in a Kushner. >> Yeah. >> And I think that that would welcome a sign to let people know that that's the site.
>> Well, we have a big sign now on it. Um but it, you know, it says it with the the land trust and it says Whites Factory. Um, it doesn't tell the history of it. And I mean, we'd be more than willing to put up a a little kiosk sign of a once upon a time.
>> Probably put it on our picnic table. Kind of. That might be safer. I don't know. >> If that's still there, I too. I'm not sure. >> But you're still going to come before the selectman on November 4th? >> Yeah. >> Cuz they would definitely like to talk
to you. Uh, the meeting's at 4:00. >> Oh, okay. >> Okay. All right. I'm going to try to get myself here, too. It'll probably be in this room. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, if you guys want to come to >> When is this? >> Sleman's meeting November 4th here at
4:00. And Cora is going to be a guest there at the Sleman's meeting. She's already on the agenda >> at 4:00 to discuss >> discuss waste factory. And they're also interested in Keith's farm,
>> right? Which, you know, I mean, we don't own yet. >> No, not yet. And it's it's it's going to be a process. We're trying to, you know, make the the property secure and safe. >> And uh there were a number of underground tanks that had never been registered with the state. So, we're
trying to bring everything up to code and removing everything. >> And that's easier said than done. >> Oh, yeah. >> You know, so every time I go, "Oh, it it'll be, you know, it'll be ours soon." you know, every time I put a month on it, it it gets >> it doesn't happen. >> No, it doesn't happen,
>> you know. But, um, one of the other things I did see on your agenda was the need for shingles. We have shingles. We'll be more than willing to donate them from Keith that you needed them for the museum. >> Oh, for the m Oh,
>> I've got bundles. So, I'll give you our bundles. >> Yeah, but shingles. What's on the museum is clapboard. >> Well, we might I'll see what we have. I'll see what we have. >> Clapboard, but what we're having a problem with is uh behind the gutters,
the facial boards. They're all rotten. >> Well, we probably have bad. >> And some of the clapboards are rotted. So, I've been getting working on getting prices for it. >> Okay. Well, I might have some wood for you. >> Okay. That would be good. >> All right.
>> Okay. Well, >> any other questions or >> I really hate to see >> I guess it all comes down to when they're going to do it. You know, >> again, that I was down there on my bicycle and um I checked it off pretty thoroughly and >> it's just not worth saving. I mean, like
you said, it would just take phenomenal amounts of money. >> Oh my gosh. And you'd have to rebuild the whole thing, you know, and then for what purpose? And not only that, once you did restore the whole thing, wants to prevent the kids from going in there and destroying. >> Well, that was the problem before.
>> Exactly. because I mean we'd really like to um you know actually even line our property because one of the problems it's been for the neighbors is that people will go out you know like four-wheeling doing donuts in the back field that we don't even own you know or they'll snowmobile through it or ride
their ATVs >> you know and uh at least if we put up stones you know maybe it would prohibit a few of them from destroying as much as they they sometimes do. >> That's a good idea. Yeah. But uh >> and the town did uh the town the state
when they put the bridge in, they did away with that waterway that went through the uh >> Yeah. It it's so bizarre. It's so bizarre. And especially their drainage that they that literally is coming out off the road, you know, directly onto
the ground. So >> the worst thing they did was open up the street cuz I live there >> and let me tell you, it is like 195. Yeah, they race through there. >> Oh my god. And I've got school buses,
trailer trucks, dump trucks. >> Yeah. >> Everything going down that street where they never could go before. >> No, they couldn't go for the weight on the bridge. >> No, they see the sign. They see the bridge. They're open. >> They're raising cane over there. >> Well, they did a nice job on the bridge.
>> They did a super job. They did too good of a job. They put it over much faster now than used. >> Much faster. Put it to the floor. >> Yeah. >> Oh yeah. >> Yeah. >> Although I tell you one thing about Hlet Street, it's a very dangerous street for a bicycle,
>> especially when you get past the bridge to main street. >> That could be tricky. Yeah. >> Very tricky. >> It's too narrow. >> Big time. >> They're supposed to widen it and black it. And I don't know when that's going to happen. >> Hold our breath. >> It's a disaster. But I've been there
what? 56 years. >> Yeah. So I remember moist factory when it looked a lot better than it does now >> when we when I was a kid and like you saying going back to you know 60 years ago. Yeah it was and that's when they
should have done something with it. >> Well Matt was trying to you know do it and the other kid Matt was helping him but then Matt I don't know what happened there but they didn't work together anymore >> and Mark couldn't do it. Mark ended up
having hip replacement and everything. >> Yeah. >> So, you know, he did all he could. >> Yeah. He's definitely a gift to a cushion. But >> all right. Well, I'll see you all in November. >> I'll see you. Thank you for coming.
>> Thank you for coming. >> Okay. Yeah. So, all right. Um under old business. Yeah. Apple picture was good on Saturday but not on Sunday with the rain. Uh we were overwhelmed with people at the museum.
It was a constant flow. Even on the Sunday it was raining outside and all all these people wanted to go through the museum and I was having a affair because I just had that hallway all painted >> floor and everything look beautiful
>> and these people are trapping mud through there. Oh my god. I I was going to have a heart attack. It's too much. Too much. Um yeah, so I am getting prices on the museum. Uh we got to replace some uh
rotten wood. The the facial boards are pretty bad most of the building, but there's clapboards, especially on the back of the building. There's clapboards that are rotted. So those are going to be replaced, too. And then I'm going to get a separate price for painting the
building cuz I don't know about the sheriff's department anymore. Since the new sheriff's been there, they haven't had the work groups. So if I can't get the work groups, then we'll see what I can get through a contractor on prices.
So anything else under old or new business? >> Did you say that we had to get reworn today? Not unless you >> Oh, two years. Okay. >> Yeah. >> I know. I just went through it not too long ago.
>> Again. >> All right. You You have one at the White Factory. >> Yeah. >> Oh, yes. >> You got it. Yeah. I put those together myself. >> Well, these are really good. >> That's nice. I did a nice job. >> Yeah. Very nice. >> I thought you had
one of for Richard. Yeah. I I put them together cuz I said, you know, I hate to see that place go even though I know it's bad and everything. >> Yep. >> You know, but we'll see what happens because uh
>> she will be coming before the sling cuz they do want to talk to her about what's going on with the uh Keith's farm. >> I wonder if there's any any way possible that that property could be sold. I mean, if there's not going to be a
mill there anymore, they're going to tear it down. Maybe somebody could buy it. You know what I'm saying? Cuz I mean, if the mill isn't there, just wasted land. >> I don't know what it would be, though. It's only that shop piece in the front.
>> I don't know. I'm just saying, you know, >> not much acreage, huh? >> Not there. Not where the waist factory is. >> Oh, >> that little parking lot next door. >> Yeah. But right behind the mill where they cut the field of uh for hay >> y >> doesn't belong to the factory.
>> No, that belongs to somebody here. >> Well, it's a she's a shame that when they tear it down, it's just going to sit there. >> It says 2 acres behind it protected by the land trust stretch behind Whit's factory. But my opinion, I
suggest make a nice little park bed. Well, it's something like, you know, once that's gone and just it's connected. It It's like it says it's connected on the other side of the river. What do >> you mean by park? You mean like picnic tables for people to use and stuff like that?
>> Well, I mean, just clear out. >> Well, you got to be careful of what you're going to put in there cuz it's going to get vandalized. >> Yeah. Whatever. You know, I'm not, you know, whatever. >> They've had a couple of picnic tables behind the mill. They've been there already for a few years and I think they're still there. Well, they don't
have to put any picnic tables. I just think it should be clear out, made safe, and um put a a better sign that has a picture of what the mill look like, explains all like you see downtown or anyway. I don't know if has any of those
anywhere, >> but that's it. >> Well, >> maybe keep some of the stones that you know, nice ones, put them here and there, whatever. There's got to be plenty of them. >> Yeah, there is.
It's to figure out where to put them and what to if we could lift them to move them. >> Yeah, they get to some degree heavy. >> Oh my god. >> You have to use a machine. >> Yeah. >> It's too bad it got to this point that
it had to >> I know. She told me it was a a total liability for them. Mhm. >> So I don't know. >> Oh yeah. >> Now this one here.
All right. Milk is found. All right. I found this a little bit interesting, too. This was in the South Coast paper. Um the par 20 acre farm field and 30 acres of woodland on the river mean the
protection of more than a half mile of riverfront officials said and augment more than 75 protected acres owned by the trust within the accushian river alley. Look, that was made in late December.
I wonder if this is updated. No, this ain't updated. No. No. The 20 acres of a mostly open field in Woods off North Main Street was on the headarters of the Kush River
and Burford Reservoir. I know that um there's been people after Keith's farm already to develop it into house lots. Why would they? >> And they're trying to prevent that. >> What do you want to do with it?
>> Well, if the favor of Kushet land trust gets it, what she told me they were planning to do is more or less keep it as Keith's farm. >> Mhm. >> With the strawberry patches and the blueberry bushes and fruits and vegetables and maybe have like people in
the city that have no room to garden. >> Yeah. they could have like a plot and you know have their own garden. >> Mhm. >> Some of those ideas she had told me about already. So I don't know.
See what she's saying. They don't own it yet. It's still in uh >> probate. >> Probate. Yep. God knows how it's going to be in probate, you know, because uh the both husband and wife were gone. So
It made it hard. So, okay. Anything else on the old business? New business? >> I don't have anything. >> Nothing. Huh? >> I know.
No, don't forget ch town meeting. They changed it to November 3rd. >> Where? At the school. >> At the uh Yeah, the middle school. So, Is there any word on when the uh library
will actually go up for sale? Do you know? >> I have been trying to get in to talk to the town administrator for the last two weeks and he's in meetings, meetings, meetings, meetings. All because of town meeting coming up. >> Oh yes.
>> And now they postponed it for another week. So now it's November 3rd. And then the substance meeting will be here November 4th. So >> I don't know. He's been so wrapped up in
town meetings. I can't get through to him to talk to him about anything. >> Well, maybe at the town meeting we can somebody can go up and ask questions. >> I know they're not too happy about that. >> Oh yeah. >> Yeah. Because it usually turns into a
big circus. Well, they always have somebody going up there to talk. >> You know, it wouldn't take much to go up there and just ask them. >> Oh, yeah. I'm sure you could probably say, you know, that >> if there's any decision made on selling
the library, when it's going to happen, >> and how much is it going to sell for? >> I don't know. It's in such poor condition inside that I don't think they're going to get what they thought they were going to get,
>> you know, because whoever purchases that building is going to start with the bottom up. >> Yeah. >> It's all destroyed. Well, then they're going to maybe they can sell it as is. And if they do that, then the building's going to come down. >> That building cannot come down though
because we have a D restriction. >> I understand that. But if it doesn't sell for 10 years because of the deed restriction. >> Yeah. Well, some people are not going to like it. But the deed restriction is basically not to touch >> the outside. I understand that. But
whoever's going to buy it, >> they're going to stand and look at this building going, >> it's got to go. Well, as long as uh the ultimate outside result of the building resembles what it is now, although it might be in better
shape, that's okay, right? >> Mhm. >> Just don't want a lot of changes being made. >> There's a lot of loopholes there. >> I'm sure there are. I'm sure there are. Yeah. Strange looking. >> It is, you know, but it would it make a
beautiful house. >> Yeah. >> Somebody, you know, >> if you got the money to do it. The thing is these uh guys are out there looking for properties and they scoop them up and they refurbish them and then they sell them.
>> Does the deed restriction have any limitation in terms of years and you know after a certain number of years you do something? I doubt it. >> I don't believe so. >> Probably at the >> the wheels move mighty slow. >> Yeah.
It's probably there for the rest of uh our life. >> Whatever happens after that, >> I would say >> there's no ifs, ends or buts, or they might uh you can somehow get around the dealers for sure.
>> I'm sure I'm sure if they sell the building, John. >> Yeah, >> I'm sure if they sell the building that then they'll >> Okay. >> There'll be a lot of questions. People have a lot of questions on what's going to happen to it. >> Yep.
>> Well, thank you. >> And those kind of questions may come up at town meeting as well, you know. >> Y got one. Okay, everybody got a pen. >> Thanks. >> Okay, we got extra. >> One question for you. >> Yeah, >> I've got only one criticism about the
calendar. They don't have any local pictures on here. tell you that next year. Let's do one with uh >> I mean that's going to be either Colorado or Wyoming, you know. So, >> I'm sure there's only a question. >> Canada. >> Canada. Canada's for January,
Oregon for February. >> I just ordered the ca the uh I just ordered the calendars. >> Yeah. >> Giving them my information. Whatever pictures are there coming through has nothing to do with me. >> No, no, no, no. It just seems to be pictures of nothing but
>> Oh, yeah. the western part of the country and Canada and maybe the the south a little bit. I don't think there's even New England at all, but you know, it's still a nice calendar. But wait, there is a New England picture. >> Is it?
>> A there is October. Yep. Yep. New England, it says. Yep. >> I'll wait until October. >> Then you got a Vermont picture. You got a New Hampshire picture in December. Oh, well see.
>> Yeah, but the others are all far far away. >> All right. >> Most calendars like >> Yeah, they're all like there. You can't help it. >> Yep. >> Okay. >> Have they ever discussed in here the origin of the name of Krishna? >> Where did it come from and why?
>> I what I heard >> in the book >> was that in in the Indian translation it means swimming place. >> Yeah, that would make some sense. I heard something else though. I heard that in 1860, you know, when the town
became >> the town >> a separate entity. They like the name of Kushnet because that was the name of the whailing vessel Herman Millville went to sea on as a young man around the Horn. He was only in his teens and 20s and
stayed down there for several years. And the boat was named the Kushnet. And that boat is discussed in probably his first successful book. I don't know how many have ever read Taipei. >> That the one about the cannibals.
>> Yes. >> Taipei was a tribe >> in some of the islands in the South Pacific. >> If a whailing vessel stopped there, as it often would, you know, >> there would always be some malcontents on the boat. They were tired of the
captain. Too tough, too nasty, and would stay on the island. And they, if nobody was looking, they would hide up in the hills. And if the captain didn't see them and catch them and punish them, >> they would just hide out until some
other vessel came by. They were always in need of men and they could hope to find a more reasonable. >> I can't see them naming the question after that, though. >> Uh, no. I thought I'm trying to remember exactly how the name came in, but I thought the boat was originally called
the Aushnet >> cuz there was two Kushnet uh uh Coast Guard. >> Yeah. >> And one of them, the bell is at the museum that was on one of the Coast Guard ships. >> Yeah. >> And they were both named a Krishna.
>> Yep. But they had a a list of about 30 10 20 Yeah. 30 names of a Krishna all spelled different ways. >> Yeah. Yeah. Kushina. Yeah. And then it said that it was a swimming place >> that was from the Indians that lived
here. >> Oh, it's an Indian name obviously. Yeah. >> Yeah. Mhm. >> I mean a Kushnet. I mean you know. >> Yeah. Oh yeah. >> Yeah. We ended up with a Kushnet but they were born different varieties of the names. >> Totally different. Totally. >> Exactly. But anyway, it doesn't really
>> Anyways, >> it's not a swing place anymore. Just a reminder, I do have two History of a Kushnet books available if anybody would want one. They're $49.95, but they're a big book. >> Okay, >> they're beautiful.
>> They priced me out a long time ago at $4.99.95. Once you've rent it, then what do you do? >> No. Well, you keep it. >> You use it. I just pulled mine out last day. >> I got my mine all the time. >> Imagine if the library hasn't got a
copy. You The library has a copy. >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. I've taken it out, actually. >> Yeah. >> You have from the library? >> Mhm. >> I know Cam's got one in her office, too. >> Um, >> what amazes me about a Christian is that
how early it was settled. >> Yeah. >> And how many people were here in around the middle of the 1800s. >> Yeah. >> The map the maps that you showed us, it's all names. says no. And I'm amazed
at how many people and businesses >> that were in this town back in >> back then >> early 1800s. >> Still part of part of a larger town. >> Yeah. Well, yes. But what I'm saying is >> from the pilgrims landing 1620. Yep. It
didn't take them long to get this far, you know. >> Certainly not. >> And there was a lot of names. And I was amazed that it must have been 15 20 businesses. >> Sure. you know, in a Christian at that time, you know, >> and funny thing, uh, our town administrator, Mr. Kelly, uh, when he
first started here way back when, >> um, he had mentioned to me that he was, uh, he had relatives from the, um, the ship there, you just mentioned it, out of Plymouth, >> you know, Mayflower. >> Yeah, Mayflower.
>> Oh, yeah. >> He had relatives on from the Mayflower down the line uh with him. So I had brought him in the book to read. >> Yep. >> And he read Oh my god. He was thrilled to death. >> Sure. >> It was like, oh, I couldn't believe he was so happy to get that book just to
read it. >> Cuz the only thing is if everybody who claims uh they had a relative on the bay floor, they >> Yeah. >> They would have had that quote from that movie, they're going to need a bigger boat. >> It would have been the size of the Titanic.
>> Sure. No, but they they did the right thing though to create a replica that is just nice. And they they every two or three years they fix it up to make sure it doesn't go downhill. >> And it's a draw. It brings a lot of people to the area just to get a look at
it. Sure. >> Yeah. It's very interesting. >> Oh, yeah. >> Is there anything else we got to do here? >> Will you put your nose in that history book and start reading that? Believe me, you don't put it down until you finish. Here's here's something you may not
know. Of course, um Plymouth was number one. I understand Wayimoth was number two, you know, founded. >> Gloucester, where I come from, was number three. >> But in the beginning, Gloucester was little more than a few fishing shacks.
And the guys couldn't get along with one another. They kept quarreling with each other about who was going to fish where up there. And finally, it looked like there was going to be violence. looked like there was going to be blows. And luckily, one of the fishermen was on
close terms with Miles Stish down in Plymouth. And he contacted him. He said, "Miles, you got to get up here and bang heads together or there is going to be trouble. They will listen to you. They won't fight with you, but you got to get up here before it's too late." He went
up there and he settled the whole thing. If you go to what is called stage four park in Gloucester, right down on the water, huge granite boulder there, massive boulder, you have a metal uh plate that's been put into the stone on the side. You know, you can see it from
a distance. And it tells all about Miles Stannis's visit up there to quell, you know, anybody that wanted to fight >> because they were they were scared of him because he was a very tough fighter against Indians and against people that
tried to challenge him. >> And he did not live to be an old man, but he uh he they were afraid of him. Yeah. >> And so if he went up there and he said, "I'm not banging heads together," they knew he was ready to do so. Well,
okay. So, if everything is all set, there's nothing else to bring before the uh board. >> Yep. >> Okay. May I have a motion to adjourn? >> So, move second. >> 706. >> Yep. >> Okay. Our next meeting November 11th