[Music] good evening and welcome to the historical commission meeting for February 11th uh 6:30 or a little late
6:35 may have a motion to open the meeting over second all in favor okay uh we don't have a flag all right we'll have to sketch the uh leave this one um okay uh we do have
a copy of the minutes from the November meeting yeah okay so we'll go over these you want to read it all Richard sure okay uh let's see seems like a million years ago
okay meeting held on 11224 meeting call to Auto 636 last minute gone over an approved situation with the old library still in limbo it has been decided that the secretary will write a letter which I
have done and we'll go over that tonight uh to the selectman on where we are on the sale of the building uh there are nine old school houses in cusher during colonial times none were preserved the commissioner is looking into Old maps to find out where they
were located so we may be able to put plaques on the property they pretty well know where they are right yeah we do we know where they are but now they're on private property so you'd have to get permission from the the owner of the property to do it okay research now being done to find
grave of John Cook may be located across from the Quarry he was the last surviving man to cross over on the Mayflower oh for goodness sake oh yeah we did a nice big write up on John Cook all signs point to the Old Mill on Hamlin Street will be torn down hope Le
it'll be torn down before someone gets hurt I'm surprised there's enough left of it to tear out well uh before the summer was over I took a ride down here on my bicycle oh and I went checked it out you know I got off you know I checked out the bridges too them guys are taking forever down there but I
understand they're all done pardon me I understand they're all done oh really when they going to open the road they say going to do a dedication AED I don't want a dedication I want an open Bridge next spring you not this spring next spring okay and the meeting was
adjourned at 7:30 well the reason that I say that is cuz I went there and what's happening is you know how the Big Blocks are yeah well they're starting to Cave fall in on themselves it's only a matter of time now and the building is way as far as I'm concerned my personal opinion
it's way too far going to to uh yeah of course it is re of course it is okay um okay uh I'd like to I'm going to read the letter I wrote all right let's let's take a
motion on this okay all right may have a motion to accept the minutes as read I'll make a motion to accept second okay all in favor yes okay the last man to cross over on the
M I should bring you the file that I collected on that John Cook yeah very interesting very interesting very interesting okay so Richard you've got the letter I got the letter let me just put here
concerning the library yeah they shut the heat on it's cold okay here we go yes now I'm going to read through the letter and what I would figure we would do is everybody can give me input and what they think and I'll take notes and we'll
rewrite the letter the next meeting uh I hopefully will be able to mail it before then yeah sure no town meeting cuz town meeting will be coming up in May yeah well I'd like to find out what's going on if we can and to me this seems to be
the only way we can get an answer from the select is to send them a letter and see what happens and even then they may not have an answer then cuz I don't see no activity over there at all I know that nothing okay here we go did Ser as the secretary of the historical
Commission of Christi I have been assigned to write this letter to our selectman on the future of the old library on Main Street as this building will be 100 years old soon it is the commissions believe everything should be done to avoid it being torn down these
are the questions we would like to have answered is the building up for sale now or will it be in the near future who will be handling the sale will it be a real estate agent or a town official will stipulations be put in the sale
agreement that will preserve the exterior of the building when and where will the monument and Time Capsule be moved how much will funding be put how much wait how much will building be put up for
sale for let this historical commission know we have we may know a buyer in other words we'd like to find out how much they're going to ask for the building the answers to these questions can be followed to the historical commission or to its president I'm I'm
going to give them my name and address as secretary and Paulin as president okay is there any other uh what is the assess valuation of the prop does somebody have a value now we don't know don't we don't know I don't think it has an assessed value because it's a town
build Town building theoretically won't ever be up for sale well it might have an assessed value it may because I just looked up the town hall and I found that under the assessor yeah so there could be
something in the assessor's office on you know the age the value whatever yeah so does anybody want have anything other comments you'd like me to put in the letter or this this satisfactory been so long since I've been in that building I can barely even remember what it's like inside no because well I been since I
haven't been in there since I was a kid I was in there several times you know same here but back in the' 60s yeah oh yeah no it looks like a a fascinating building but I suspect there's very oh there's a lot of deterioration I figur
there had to be some drawbacks after all this time you know the the bu isn't bad the roof yeah the inside though uh from what I've heard is the second floor has collapsed onto the first in in sections MH and nobody did a thing about it no
they just sat on their hands whole time well now the selectman have only been in charge of this building for the last what year it was transferred over to the selectman because the I think it's always been under their control no I
heard it was a committee that oh well they the library committee which they mov to the new library anyway how many years now has the new library been an operation I was just trying to remember that I have no idea I've only been back 4 years I know
the buiness loves that new library she thinks it's a marvelous Place she's GL oh I like the new liary I go there all the time in fact you can buy High cover books there for a buck mhm I bet you can't because most people I know got too many hard cover books at home as it is and they're glad to unload a few if they
the library what they do is when the book gets older yep then they left for sale mhm I must I bet you I bought 50 books out of there already sure and you got them all at home I read them and then I deposit them and there's a box down on bille Avenue for books and
that's where I put them so other people can enjoy it you can also take them to the Council on Aging in their Library they I'm noticing everybody's put on these little libraries on their lawn now with the little houses in the front I men a few there was a list of certain
books that you might have personally that you really don't need any longer they probably would jump at the chance to get certain books if they 2015 whoever it is the new library oh that's what the library was built 10 years
already 2015 yeah I go there like I say I go there all the time you can read newspapers People magazine they got all sure sure you can get on the computer I mean the place is great you know I mean if they've got old editions of certain books that are about ready to fall apart
and they discovered GE W you got practically a brand new one of these you know most of us would love to unload some books I know we got far to make books in our house all right so does anybody have any objections to me typing up this
letter no I think it sounds pretty good I mean it sounded good want to add something it seems to say it should say you know yeah well they made they may call you and I to come to the something's meeting that's fine I'll go you know we got to find out what's going
on with that building and we seem to be running into a dead end all the time so I figured writing them a letter we'll see what happens nothing happens this way then we'll try another uh approach that's all they can I don't know what else to do you to see what the
inside of the police station looks like the inside of the police station is really nice I bet it is it looks like a great place for the outside good all right so you're going to go ahead and type it up yeah I'll type up the letter and uh go through
make sure all the corrections whatever and then uh I'll I'll even mail it oh you could hand deliver it right into the selman's office and give it to the girls and they'll put it uh make copies of it for
the St yeah can I can do that I'll do that next week I should it done by then okay um all right so you're all set with that now y okay I wanted to let everybody know that uh they have hired a
new uh Master planner for the town of KET yep and uh apparently she did have one meeting already which I wasn't even aware of um but there's a meeting coming up this Thursday night Y at the police
station in that large room the the big room that they have there Y and what she's asking is for all the different departments to show up with ideas I guess whatever they're going to talk about and give ideas and they've
requested the historical commission to be there so it's Thursday night at the new police station at 6:00 okay so this is what's the the meeting is for what the future of a
master plan meeting master plan yes and I gave you uh all one of these which um you know explain some of their ideas if you go on CLE whatever I can there
you can there's a whole web page dedicated to yeah in fact I printed it out tonight because sent me the whole page I think it's a big oh my goodness so in fact Mr Kelly already requested that I meet with
her to go over different things uh as far as the historical commission I haven't have time I don't have time for this all these meetings that are going on they driving me crazy but who's Mr Kelly Mr Kelly is
that Town Administrator oh w okay so all right so yeah so she's got different meetings coming up um February 13th Thursday which will be the transportation and services and
Facilities I don't know what the Deep dive has got to do with that but anyways that's part of it on uh Thursday night yep there's different dates different meetings that are coming up but this one she's requested that all the Committees be
there there going to be a lot of people there then well there should be if they all come but that's a very large room I'm on two so I'm going to the bicycle bike and pedestrian Safety Committee all right you're you going to be there that night yeah I got to go for that that
committee too you get the meeting I'm the chairperson of that committee is it that night the meeting it's 20th Thursday oh this Thursday the 13th it's the 13th it is the 13th the same one you're going [Music]
to it doesn't matter I'll be there so you'll be there at the police station yeah okay I wasn't sure is that where you usually have your meeting no no they're only moving it there because it's bigger the library it wasn't a meeting that you missed the first one
they had yeah it wasn't a meeting it was for anybody to walk in all they did they had boards set up on easels all around and you could go in and look at it and give your give ideas and opinions and put stickies on stuff and it wasn't like
an official meeting official oh okay yeah that's why I wasn't even aware of it but yeah her name is Victoria the the master planner I mean there's a lot of elements were you on the one I was on the last one I was too
with Henry young yeah yeah I used to go to all of the meetings that were at the Council on Aging so I mean it is very interesting but who has the time you that's the problem you know it's getting to be tomorrow is Council and aging meeting
and this is Thursday night and you know it's hard it's hard y but if you can please try to make it Thursday night and we'll see what it's all about and take it from there you know that's all
we can do sure right let me see yeah that's the one okay they got Zoom too they got the meeting by Zoom but yeah I'm not crazy about that Zoom stuff no
you know no so I would rather do it this way yep okay so all right anything else to be brought up as far as uh well we haven't had a meeting for a while but there's really nothing else to I think
discuss you know I mean uh we still got the uh situation where the build the houses at 100 years old but that seems to be I've been going through all my files and I'm getting all my files all lined up by the address when
this is done what we going to do approach that approaching people about the pl yeah if I can have some help I can't do it all I've got quite a few files all put together all along Main Street all the way up towards long plain yep well maybe
we we should just take it a section or a building at a time that's all we can do U in fact we may stop right down here at the bridge because I know there's a couple of houses that do have plaques handmade plaques you know um the others
don't so I've already got the files all put together uh the other thing too is some of them houses are multifamilies the owner doesn't live there no I know that that's another tricky one but it doesn't make it doesn't mean that they
wouldn't want to PL put on the building but you can't you got to contact the owner well I understand and then you got to make sure the information you got goes back to the original owner way back when yeah cuz that name and date is got to be on the plaque and you say they're
50 bucks they're $50 but they're made out of a good material I know that but I think that might deter a lot of people at this stff so far it hasn't I mean I've put a lot of plaques on houses already in fact I've even got some pictures home
where the plaques we did put up we took pictures of it to show them we're going to put our plaque back up the only reason it hasn't been up all this time on our house is because we put up an entirely different siding oh it really desperately needed siding and it's got a very nice yellow siding now on it that's
been there for couple of years and I keep saying it's soon time to put the plaque back up so we we've got a you said yeah we you know it adds value it doesn't take away the value of the property you know I know there's a house right over here on Main stre
um the one that said dark gray I a blackish color a young couple bought it but that house had a plaque on it already from before when I started looking up the history on that property it goes back to like foron
Dairy you remember that way back when foron Dairy see I don't my time yeah but yeah that when you start digging in the files and go back and go back on my God M [Music]
so we've got a few um in fact I found some more tonight before I left the house I had another container of files that we've been going through too do we have a list of the uh um places that the one uh room School houses were're
at a list of the addresses now where they used to be don't don't we have a one of these Maps someplace that actually shows the museum they are no no it shows the school
houses the school houses school hous not the one room ones though the one room ones it does it shows them on their map but some of them were on private property or now they're on private property time they weren't you know it
was it was a school house but they got torn down years ago and the land must have get sold now they're privately owned well yeah we could have a a lot we've got our work cut out for us if we want
to start really going at these plaques I know I would like to tackle the one on perill road uh the one that was um I can't think on the name um used to at the top of where the golf course is we moved half Way's house half the
Way's house oh and they moved it down on Perry Hill Road and they put an addition on who who's going to put the plaques on the houses if they approve my was doing it okay maybe we might want to wait till
the weather breaks a little more before ain't going to be much fun trumpet through the snow no no no no fun at all or at 12 breze you know oh yeah no better enough I got to go to work I don't want to do anything else
but okay so all right y we'll chew up some ideas here um uh I've been waiting to get a couple of estimates on some work that needs to be done on the museum and inside the
church uh the front corner of the building the floor is going through and brought it through is that the church on Perry Hill what's I going to say is any of the money allowed to the historical commission been spent
yet there's money in a fund here at the Town father Perry Hill Church but when we got that money through town meeting it specified certain things that we could do with it
like I believe it's all indoor repairs I don't know if we can use some of this money on the floor so how do you find use it or not I I talked to Mr Kelly but then they would
have to find out through Finance they got to go back and look back when it was uh approved at town meeting what the exact wording was yeah yeah that's right otherwise I won't be able to use it and also the preservationist the
woman that's working on it trying to get that on the natural register she is still working on it and she had a uh I was supposed to get the package Before Christmas she had a death in the family y she had one thing after another going
wrong yep okay so I haven't receiv received it yet and when I do get it the first one it'll be for us to go over to approve what's there and then she gets a partt of the check for her time yeah you know
sure it could take like she said right now it could take a year or two before we could get it on the national register that's how backed up there wow okay so I'm going to I might text her and see uh how she's coming on it she was almost
done with it and then something else happened and set her back who can we approach to find out SL Street rebuilding was approved for 1.8 million at the last town meeting does anybody
know when they're going to start sopm Street why I asked that because it's going to make one heck of a mess mhm traffic is going to be a nightmare especially right here yeah it's a nightmare here now exactly now they're going to build 150 homes out near you
out there on across from ly Street right now I noticed they just built two buildings on Garfield there's eight apartment going in those two buildings wow each have a garage just regular Apartments
y well each building has four apartments and there's two brand new buildings there they're not done yet they're putting them up now so there's eight eight more residents there two cars per residents y right so that's another 16
cars if they put a 100 houses out across the Lin Street that's going to be what are 200 Cars across from lindry what is that the the there a sign there's a big sign right out there that was the how come I'm
not that's near that farm that what's that farm silver Brook silver way is it I think a b silver Brook I noticed either I didn't read any anything or hear anything about this no they've had
a sign up there for quite a while and it says houses they said 100 150 I know they're going to build a lot of houses on is that the one that they put that D over way up in the back yeah that's what they going to work off I thought that was a
solar farm yeah there's a solar farm I was going to ask you if that's what that was I think it is before your house if you're coming in in this way well the houses are going to be up too with the farm yeah but how can they build that many houses up there if they're putting
a solar farm in well there used to be a farm years ago they probably got a lot of acreage they don't need much room there going to be a couple hundred acres that they can use anyway I was just saying that yeah
unless something's done maybe we should br not the historical commission I guess that has nothing to do with it but it's going to be like I say a nightmare for the rest of the residents in this town yeah if they build that many houses you you're looking at 3 or 400 cars more
cars in the in the town is this going to be under 55 ride a bike these houses I agree they going to build these houses are they going to under 55 I I would say is it going to not going to be any
restrictions you know so that means they got families going in there and who knows how many all I'm saying is but the building that's going to be going on from here on in in a chrishna is just going to add more congestion it's already getting out of hand but that's a
planning boards commit yeah nothing to do with us I know that but I'm just saying maybe we if we're going to this meeting maybe this should be brought up maybe we this should be brought up well I I don't anything you want what's
already been approved well I agree with that 100% but why why they're going to have to put a light here now I I heard that they tried to put a light at one time but the previous owner at the at the pting way station told them no because he was denied putting a coffee
shop on the end of the building by the town so when the town wanted to put traffic lights in and wanted to put one of the light poles on his property over there he said no did he have the right to say no me could they make him go along with it
and I don't I it they can't be put in traffic remember property by inter light is on the corner it's not going to intrude no and I also heard I also looked into it and found out that
the average the average intersection traffic light installation is $300,000 Oh that's oh my God that's frightening that kind of money for something supposedly State because that's the
state Richard wouldn't that be the state could be respons put down on your master plan the state I agree that should have been done years ago you how far do they own up to the intersection they own South B
Street right but beyond that I don't think they own anything there private property all around it what's that sou Main Street here is owned by
the the state the state road yeah the state road 105 well this this road here is yeah yeah but the other one isn't no no so they going have to put a they got to put a pole on each Corner then they got that huge thing that controls the lights where they going to stick that on
a church property what I mean what I it was my understanding that the state would fix up South Main Street sidewalks and everything yeah then turn it over to the town MH and it's still under same
jurisdiction how long ago was that when when they fixed South Bain Street they sidewalks in all out well all I'm saying it's already on their list the if we're going to this town meeting that
plan they're going to be planning the future of a chrisan I think that one of us or somebody should bring it up as far as this intersection here I'm I'm I'm amazed that nobody's gone through that guard rail again they enough times you
think it's bad now yeah weit a little rail completed that's the property values are going to go up and people are going to be moving into this area there's going to be multif family dwellings and traffic congestion we're just going to
be another suburb of Boston I agree but there's not not much we can do about that I mean they've been waiting for years to run that train so I can't see how said we want to come back we want to reattach March 25th is the uh is the day they're going to start that's but
okay so March 25th I've heard that before yeah we have well they I they're testing the trains now I've SE them going in everything's been tested andov right and have you seen the trains oh they're beautiful the
cars they're they're L huge you can go to Boston for six bucks no it's 12252 really six bucks one way how do they Define senior how old over 55 over 95 to this thing
yeah oh well anyway it's going to be interesting when that station opens up yeah sure well you're going to see BR Valle go through the roof well look they've gone through the roof look I bought my house bad now wion Street four years ago it's
already it's already gone up $100,000 prop in in assessment value uh what I'm think it's nuts yeah you know H my mother and father bought the house behind the post office in 1952 for five
grand yeah yeah now you're looking at 4 the medium price now is about $400,000 scary which is nuts who we all can afford that I bought my house in uh 19 1969 it
was 10 years old yep paid 19,900 MH right now they said it's worth 400 yeah well at the same I built a house on Elaine way when I married uh got married the first time and reliable
homes in fact built it for mine's are reliable homes too and it was five grand no kiding for the house I remember I had counted the money out of their office anyway it's just uh yeah
things are you know getting out of hand well you know something Richard if you're concerned with things like that I think what maybe we should do is plan on going to a planning board meeting well we're going to a planning board meeting
right Thursday no that's the master plan well it's got to be no it's different it'll be different all right but they have the regular planning board meetings yeah I know that we you know maybe could go and ask questions sure well we should be able to find out something because
like I said it's going to concern all of us when I lived in Florida I lived in Palm Beach County Y and Palm Beach County at the time I left there and I left there in 2015 had 2 million people I couldn't not leave my
condominium and go to the grocery store unless I planned a day ahead was the time I could get out on the road really it was gridlock and that's going to and that in other words what I'm saying is I've seen
it firsthand yeah what happens CRA you can't go out you can't do anything you can't drive around you can't do a damn thing and it's going to get like that here too unless uh I guess there really not much they can do about it I mean probably not
that's life exactly you know it's a shame but you're right that's life that's progress I wish they'd hurry up and open that bridge up though I'm getting tired of going the long way around is there anywh to find out about that yeah I'm going to check with Mr Kelly but I never
can catch him all things of kushna it you'll see it all every day if somebody put a picture ask her when they going to open when they're going to open it yeah and I'm told that it's done and they're waiting to do a dedication I don't need a dedication just open the road up for me well they could they could open it up
and have a formal dedication anytime after I heard there was something else they've done that other places dedication after I forgot somebody's Palm had to be greased don't well they said the work is all done it's all done
yeah but the whole street is a mess oh hard old city right on H Street where where we're Street in a cushion that doesn't have a ble yeah you're right but my street is hard hard
it's never been so bad in front of my house would trucks drive by especially trucks bet trailers it it yeah it sounds like somebody sitting my St wall in front yeah yeah it's only going to get worse because the towns don't have any money
on the the town just got how much quite a little money from that uh healing from uh chapter 90 no was um for road yeah chapter 90 fund what it to fix
the roads yeah they they it was quite well that's why they were doing mle Road they did P of cry Hill Road they did this is just something recently yeah this is something she just approved just appr it wasek two weeks
ago longer than that because while the weather was good they would do there was just something on the news about that I'm not sure when it was well don't forget now Trump's cutting oh my God after he gets done cut cutting there'll be plenty of money for
everybody if you can afford to live yeah amen it'll be for him it'll be for him the guy is amazing he yeah okay undescribable so our next meeting will be March
11th okay and and um I tomorrow is what Wednesday yep I got some meal already so I'm going to have to come by tomorrow again oh my
God build's fine get some [Applause] oil she gave them back to me all the copies this was for 24
um they need copies of all the oil bills like for the town for the Year this was all 2024 I mean that building 722 oil delivery
611 589 552 miles that's over $2,000 is just oil after the museum who the good part of the time the museum isn't even open right what for a
good good part of the time the museum is certainly not open it's open from uh May to October pretty much on a daily basis no no we don't have somebody there every day I didn't think so and please I
can't be there too oh heck no then I wish we could find someone you know maybe someone retired that would like to be there for a few hours each day it would be great I mean the building is heated sure when I go we
don't have to open it each day maybe couple of days couple of times a week you would need it every day that's for sure well we can bring that up at the next meeting we had a great turnout this past summer opening up every other Sunday starting in May y oh my God were
we we were overwhelmed plus Apple Peach was a a success wasn't it it was a great success y except one of the others burnt out again I had to have that fixed now both of them have been fixed so I hope this year if they have apple Peach which I'm
sure they will oh they would not dare not to well I don't know Tom foron last year was getting very tired he was already talking about maybe this is it you know oh it scares me it seems when you see apple orchards and Peach
Orchards sitting idle in get old and deci I'm not talking about people that have worked hard hard hard and you know at last would say look we just can't do this anymore I'm just talking about um whatever the reason might be you just
see an off plac is just sitting fow than an operation probably won't be like for further up the road from me at 1461 uh they have you know they had a nice U apple and and Peach situation oh
ashes yes Ash they sold it and they subdivided their land yeah they got quite a quite a chunk of land and back there that's for sure yes well they had quite a bit of land that wasn't oped I guess they divided well I know um dug in
um from a Kush crey yep they bought one of the lot The Retreat lot and they built a beautiful home down there I haven't seen it yet she say it's a dream home y well well they built some million dooll homes down at the end of paway
Road just before you get to the curve y there's a side street you go in there there I don't know how many them there are now but there was about half a dozen in there and they're all going between $800 a million good and the taxes are somebody
[Music] got okay so will everybody try to make Thursday night at that meeting just so we can find out what's going on I'll quote Yoda from uh you know what you call it the Star Wars there's no such thing as try either you do something or
you don't do something she call me and she'll say are you going to be there I'll go I hope so I think it would be a good idea to go and find out I agree may we can find out some stuff that would be enough avable
yes sometimes you're pleasantly surprised by these things I agree yes are we ajour ajour I'll make the motion all right make the motion second all in
favor okay [Music]