[Music] Good evening everyone. Today is October 16th, 2025. The time is 6:00 p.m. and this is the
Aushna Planning Board. This meeting is being recorded for future viewing on the town's YouTube page uh local cable channel and we are not on time. Um we have a oh can I get a motion to open
the playable meeting? >> I make a motion to open the public meeting. Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> We do have a quorum tonight. Can we introduce ourselves please? Um, Victoria Albaro, Tom Planner, >> Steve Buché, member. >> Mark Francois, chairman. >> Brian Deamps, member.
>> Um, we have minutes from September 4th that was sent out to us. Um, unfortunately, Steve, you weren't there. So, uh, I
would prefer to have a quorum to vote on the minutes. So, we'll just push these off, uh, until the next meeting and vote on them. Moving along. Discussion. Approval not required. Three Hay Street, Map 15, lot
374. Applicant Michael Plant, owner of Three Hay Street Realy LLC, representative is Strongtree Engineering. Is there anybody here? >> Michael Plant. >> Well, Mr. Plant, if you would please go
to the podium, introduce yourselves, and give us a rundown of what you are looking to do, please. >> Yes. So, I'm Michael Plant. I purchased 164 Main Street, the building. I'm looking to purchase the land behind it
from French Knox of Three Hings Realy uh for pocket. Okay, I literally just drove by there on my way here so I could kind of take a look at this. I pulled into this parking lot and
there's a chain link fence right directly in front of me. Is that chain link fence this property line right here? >> Yes. That building has needed parking forever. >> I'm sorry. >> I said that building has needed parking forever.
>> It has. Yes. >> So, you already purchased the building. Now you're looking Now you're purchasing this from Frank and they're going to make it a parking lot. >> Yes. It is 50 ft wide
by approximately 70 ft long. 70. >> Yep. >> There was a separate lot. >> I think it was part of law that he's cutting out. >> He has a separate lawn on the other side of the building.
>> Yeah. Where his where his big building is. Yeah. >> And then he's got this parking lot that's behind this residential home that's right beside. >> So, he's cutting out this piece right here. He does have a notation here on
the plan saying that this is all upland and it is a nonbuildable lot, which is >> good. Questions? and straightforward >> questions >> question I got and just my own peace of
mind we are taking a non-conforming lot making it more non-conforming is this in our purview >> are you referring to the lot with the bu with the building on it >> yeah in the back right here right
just right now this is >> that conforms >> well That's Well, that's true, too, because we're inside of the >> district. Okay. All right. Clarify that.
>> That's why I was asking, but there [Music] >> What are we going to make there? >> Breakfast. >> I like that. >> Yeah. >> In a partial lunch, but nothing too extravagant on the lunch.
>> Oh, awesome. Awesome. Very good, gentlemen. Uh, I'll entertain a motion. >> You make a motion to accept the plan as presented. >> We got a motion. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> I. Fabulous.
We have a mile out of sign. Do we have to sign at least one of these? Just one. Steve, you want to start it off? This is exactly what we as a board want. We want small businesses to come in. We want, you know, to make it as easy as
possible. That building has needed parking. Unfortunately, the the residents before didn't have it and it failed. So, um, yes, this is I'm very pleased to be signing this for you. >> Oh, good. I'm glad.
[Music] >> It's getting the tip is a little >> Oh, okay. That one. [Applause] You see? [Music] Okay. So, can just get this recorded at the registry of deeds within 30 days and
just come out of my office for the recording. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Thank you so much. Have a good night. >> Good luck to you. >> Thank you. >> Appreciate it. >> Have a good night. >> You too. >> Okay. Moving along. Next is a request
for a partial color release. Deep Brook Estates Park Drive. Uh applicant and owner of Deep Brook Estates LLC. Representative Zenith Consulting Engineers LLC. The scope of the work
requesting to release lots 11 and 12. Is there anybody here representing? Please state your name. owner. I live in this town, live in Kushnet, and I uh like to request the board to approve a release of these two
lots, 11, lot 11 and lot 12. Uh I have over $2 million investment this property. It's been 4 years in the making, very challenging between storm water and and uh turtles and everything else that goes with it. Uh it's been a
very delayed project and uh I would like very much to uh get this job completed. We finally get approval to to do the testing on the road approval. I'm sorry. We get the approval. We get we submit the test the material for the testing. Hopefully we'll have the the the testing
report tomorrow and hopefully next week they'll do the the the testing that's necessary uh in order to move forward. So, I'm hoping for with this release and your help, we be able to get the the pavement before the winter time. That's
the goal. >> You are planning on putting pavement down before the winter. >> That's the goal. You're trying very hard to do that. >> Well, yes. >> Have we released any lots in there before? >> No. >> No. >> No. >> There's total 15 lots. This if you release these two lots, you still have
30 lots left. >> Yep. Um I actually drove down there today. Uh, it's the first time I've been down here. I haven't been down there before, so I wanted to take a quick look. Uh, you have one house that's pretty much framed up and ready to go. So, you have one building permit or do you have two building permit?
>> One building permit. >> You have one building permit for law 11. >> Yes. >> Um, which is already, like I said, uh, >> to my ignorance, I didn't I didn't realize I had to request the lot release before I applied for the building permit. >> It's not your ignorance, sir. Um, it it
it should have been told to you. it it's not up to you. It should have been told to you and it wasn't. Uh so that's on on the town. Uh but with that being said, that's fine. I mean, things happen. Like you said, I know that this project
started with you many years ago. Um your plans haven't actually been in front of this board. Well, you might have been here when uh I I haven't seen your plans. They're they're at the office, but I haven't seen them yet. So, I know that this has been a long process. Uh, and I know you've had um um some hurdles
to jump through um which is which is you know unfortunate. Uh I do see you've got a list at the back uh of more or less an estimate of uh a cost for completion. So
um 13 lots is you know in my opinion fair to hold to make sure that this gets completed. We think so. >> But I just do request before you go for any more building permits to just come back to us uh to release the lots.
>> Oh, definitely. >> Prior to we learned by mistakes. >> Yeah. Yep. No, that's fine. That's understand. >> That will not happen again. >> We're working on just so you and everybody else knows the town is working on a checklist uh so to speak. So whether you're doing a subdivision,
whether you're doing uh good idea, >> a house lot or anything, you just go to the town hall. We'd like to hand somebody a checklist so they know exactly step by step by step as they check it off um the process. We're in the process of doing that to make things
like this not happen again. Um >> that's that's great to do. >> Yeah. Unfortunately, things have been I live in this stuff for 51 years and unfortunately things have been very loose. you know, there's not really Absolutely right. There's not guidelines there. They make their sometimes they
make their own rules. It makes it harder for us to to comply. You know, sometimes we don't know which direction we're going to go. >> You're absolutely right. You're absolutely right. And one of my goals when I came onto this board was at least this board was to tighten things up. Uh but I agree with you. They were there
was it was way too loose for a long time. So, uh we're working on it and it's baby steps, but we're making progress. Um, gentlemen, any questions? >> I don't
still plenty. Still 13 more lots. >> Still 13 more lots. And they are planning on uh asphalting as soon as possible. Um, I'm confident they're not going to get a occupancy on the house until there is asphalt. Exactly. >> Uh, so I'm not uh too worried about
that. >> I'll entertain a motion to release lots 11 and 12. I make a motion to release lots 11 and 12. >> Second that. All in favor? >> I I >> Thank you. Uh, do I want to receive, Mr.
Chairman, I want to receive some type of a notice so I can give it to the building department? >> Yes. So, I have to notoriize the document next week and then I'll let you know. You can come pick it up and it has to get recorded at the registry of deeds. >> Okay. >> Then I can bring a copy to you. Record it. >> Um, yep. Yep. So, you can provide a copy
to me and the building department as well. In the meantime, I will notify the building department tomorrow so they'd be at ease that >> practice board approves. >> Okay. >> Thank you very much for your cooperation. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Have a good night. >> Have a good night. Thank you. >> Okay.
>> Moving right along. >> We're just This is a continued discussion uh on amending the business village district. Um, Victoria was kind enough to um write up um all the bullet points
that we've been discussing. Uh, this is the sixth meeting that we've had regarding the business village district. Um just to kind of um uh reference back to what we spoke about
back in uh August uh 21. Uh it was just it was notified that uh 85% of the tax burden is on the residents. Uh we haven't had any major commercial developments
uh since from 19 from 2019 to 2023. We've only had two. Uh 95% of a cushioning is zoned residential. Uh I think we should have a little bit more than just 5% as commercial. Uh
we let's see uh potential focus areas of the business village district, expanding the business industrial district, uh amending the res residential district and other various zoning clarifications.
Uh we've discussed the um location of the water and sewer lines, which we'll get into in a second. Uh the goal is to make it easier to encourage small businesses just like the one that we just had here. Um
back uh October 2nd, we talked about uh allowing mixed use by right for smallcale commercial which means a business on the first floor and res in apartments or residential on the second. Uh we discussed uh parking. Uh we I feel
that having the parking if if if possible having parking in the rear of the building uh promotes walkability especially down here in the village district. Uh we are we also discussed potentially extending the dis the district all the
way to Lake Street. Um as far as our you know our first um goal is to go from Main Street all the way to lake from the center of town here and we just also discussed whether to go the
the setback of 300 ft uh for the split zone lots. Um I feel that if the law is deeper than 300 ft I feel we should be able to go further than 300 ft. Uh and a new uh idea is uh also renaming
the business village district. uh if we are expanding the uh business village district, I think there are people that would like the business the the village district to stay named as the village district and
maybe you know having a separate name for the business the village district and a separate name for the rest of the commercial main street so it's not all the village district. So, um, Victoria was good enough to have a couple of
suggestions, which we could call it the central mixeduse district or greater village mixeduse district. There's different um, wording that we can use to rename that.
Um, and also we're going to, Victoria and I spoke about this earlier today. Uh we're going to start trying to get public engagement uh with like polls, maybe social media or events to get, you know, people's ideas on what they feel.
I know that Victoria and Steve here have been working on the master plan. Uh, a lot of that has been getting public um interaction and a lot of what's on the master plan regarding zoning and all that is is very similar to what we're
trying to do here. Um, so I would just like to continue the ideas if anything new. Uh, gentlemen, >> the 95% is startling, >> isn't it? Yeah. I mean, we have We know
why business is in town because it we're not zoned for it in any way, shape, or form. >> No, we're not. And um again, like Victoria had mentioned in the past, for us to be able to go to the state and ask for grants, uh let's just say
hypothetically a sewer grant. If the odds of them giving us a sewer grant, a grant for to extend our sewer lines when we're not zoned for commercial to begin with, we'll get shut down before we even ask. So, the first step is to let's get zoned for
commercial. So, then when grants do come up in the future, we're already, you know, set up for it. >> Mhm. Oh, I totally agree. um some of the big maps that we have in front of us here. This Let's go to
Victoria was good enough to um copy some of these. This is the big This one is the sewer system. So everything that is
in green is an 8 in line. Everything in like the purplish color is >> Can't go up on the screen. Huh. >> 10 inch main. >> I can't today. No. >> And blue is a 12. And then there's 18 in. >> Oh, I thought it went further than this.
It doesn't even go basketball. >> No, you know, it only goes back. It only ties in a warm set. Just a couple doses. >> Yeah, >> that was done separately. >> Was done after the fact. >> And this one's the water. >> Manchester shoots right here.
>> Go that far. >> See, we got somewhere around here. I'm not sure. >> Yeah, we don't have that many. >> Yeah, you have more water. >> Yeah. >> Comes down middle just a little bit.
>> And anything that is there's coming out of the bathroom. >> Yeah. >> Wow. We got a whole lot of nothing. >> Yeah. But we don't have much of >> Yeah, we don't. Um but again uh our goal
here is to maybe look into possibly expanding the sewer by you know grants in the future and the the state won't even consider it if if we don't have it at least zoned for commercial to begin with. So, um I think
that's step one of, you know, a lot of steps that we would got to take, but at least if you know, if we start taking baby steps, we'll we'll eventually get there. And, uh, zoning this all the way to Lake Street, um, is, I think, a good step to start with.
>> Yeah, I think. Yeah, absolutely. Um, another map that we have here I can pull it out. >> The other map we have is that one which
is the water. The water is quite a bit warm. Yes. So again, all the different colors go from 1 in 2 4 6 in main, 8, 12, 10, 16, all the
different colors, but most of it looks to be like an 8 in man. All this blue here, but where are we here? I mean some of this got built because of this. We had to bring a loop in to make the water pressure come up over there
>> over here. We over here down this area. This is was this was all dead and we extended all of this stuff down through here public works. >> So it goes up as far as say repel give or take. This is rep weld right here. Right.
>> So just before repell it stops goes down Perry Hill down Gams. >> Oh no no >> Mando >> Men doesn't even go down. >> No it doesn't register. It goes to Mando.
>> This the loop that we added in back in mid 2000s. We tied that in with >> trying to build up the pressure. had a fa we had they had the failed system and they took the the balance of the money and they we tied this loop in >> which did a lot which did a few things
basically um >> obviously brought the pressure up. The pressure was terrible down this end over here >> right >> um which also um we brought the pressure up. It actually improved the um uh I forget what the actual term but basically our insurance rating with fire
um on the town by tying this and bringing pressure up and tying that loop in together. There was a couple of benefits to doing that when we did it at time. >> And then this got really extended too for the school. >> Yeah. I think that the water's been there for a while, but the sewer
definitely school. Yeah. >> That sewer line went in for the school. >> Yeah. And that's pumped up Peekom, right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But that line's too small to do anything. >> It's just basically for the schools. Nobody else. Unfortunately, nobody had any foresight back when they tried to
promote the money to get it done. Everybody went, "Oh, no, no, we're not spending any more money." >> Um, and that's basically kind of a again, >> uh, ladies and gentlemen, I know out there you can't see these maps. Unfortunately, we don't have a Zoom link
tonight to be putting it up on the screen, but if anybody out there is interested, these maps are at the planning board's office. You're more than welcome to come over and and take a look at them. DPW also uh obviously has all of our, you know, water and sewer
lines. So, if this is something you're interested in, you're more than welcome to come to the town hall, take a look at it. I basically wanted cuz I didn't just go a big thing. I know we didn't have much of it.
So, I know we've, like I said, we've spoken about different things. What are you, what are your thoughts regarding um renaming the V the business village district if we expand it past the actual village district.
Um, I've been told that there are people that are, you know, kind of partial to just, you know, the village district being the village district and then maybe we can name past the village district all the way down Main Street to Lake Street a
different name. Um, what are your thoughts? >> I just I I guess I I could go either way. I I don't see the significance of of throwing out especially a tongue twistered name like mixed use. I mean,
we reszone it for mixed uses. Reszone for mixed use. You know what I mean? I don't know if it really needs a uh a you know, it's it's an extension basically of the uh the business district itself. Um because it was pretty much, you know, my I guess my uh my thoughts are it's
going to be pretty much the same thing. not the residential village, but um it is going to be um well, we got to call it the business village district, but I mean out there will be called the greater village. >> Yeah. >> Well, that's that's a good point right
there. We can rename. So, this is a village district here and then anything past the village district could be called the greater village district. Um >> commercial area. >> Yeah. >> U like I said, I'm I'm kind of with you, Steve. I can go either way. Yeah.
>> Uh but like I said, >> benefit of significance to doing it, but I mean it just sounds like a I just don't know if it makes it more confusing or not. Um other than I do know that the village right currently the the lot sizes are different. So >> that's part that's a good part of >> that's probably the bigger point of the
whole thing is because the lot sizes will change are different currently different >> right >> and it will probably remain different because of >> right you know going from uh 10,000 to whatever we decide that it at the end of the day right now it's 60,000 so
>> correct >> um until something else gets changed but um that would be I guess the only reason to identify it a little bit differently you know >> I agree because of the law size. Other than that, >> I I um
>> don't have any other >> okay >> really say about say about that. I don't think other NASDAQ could really be a benefit. Nobody's really going to identify it like that. It's going to be more if somebody comes and tries to develop, they got an idea. Okay. Right from this point on this over here, lot sizes are different. We all got mixed
use. I mean, I think it's really what our intent is to go with going down the line is pretty much going to be it's going to be mixed use. >> Correct. Yeah. >> Mixed use commercial by right uh is what I'm shooting for. I mean, I would like
somebody to be able to come in in front of us or or not have to come up, you know, not have to go to ZBA uh and say, "Hey, I want to open up." Again, I keep throwing out, you know, hair salon or a dog. you know, whatever small. I want them to just come up and say yes and we can just
say, you know, you meet lot requirement, you meet this, you meet that. Um I obviously if it needs sewer, then it's something that someone's not even going to even think about because there's might there's probably no sewer there. So why would
you even why would you even ask to build something that is required for sewer, right? >> It's going to be asked to build something that maybe a septic system can uh handle. And as long as the lot's big enough to handle a septic system, then it should be by right. Um,
unfortunately, you know, there's a lot of people with a lot of opinions, and sometimes those people's opinions sway the ZBA's um, judgment or whether it's ZBA or ours or whoever's, um, I would prefer it to be by right where it's not
a, you know, a a group of people saying, "No, not in my backyard kind of situation." >> Right. you know, and when we do it, I think still I think we just identify um what's acceptable. Absolutely. When it when it's as part of that bylaw, what is acceptable? >> Absolutely.
>> As commercial in that it's Yeah. >> Yeah. I don't want somebody having >> What is White Dairy? Is that I know part of that was like an industrial array. >> That's a commercial business district. >> It is the whole thing right there. That's the only one. That little bit we got one. And then there's
>> so he doesn't have to come in front of us for every time he puts something. I mean, you know, we had that extra old building there last year, year before, um, where the old paintball placed in front over there to put that building up. There's a barber shop in there now. >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. Right. So, I didn't, you know,
>> if it's meeting the threshold for site plan review, which is by, you know, gross floor area, parking space, if parking spaces, if it's meeting that criteria, then they would have to come in front, not for the use, but for site plan review. >> And I think they did come in front of
us. I want to say that >> that was before me if it did. >> I think that did come in front of us >> before. Yeah, before >> but I think it did come in front of us. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I know some things that change, you know, that changed a number of years back. You know, obviously when they started putting, you know, like where
Roujo and the JNR plastics are in the back over there. So, I know things have changed over there, you know, and it makes sense. I mean, it's good use of the property. >> Absolutely. You know. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Back there. But just like what was built there, that little storefront where he's got, you know, what is it? Three or four
little, you know, um, >> yeah, >> businesses in there, whatever they are. >> I think that's great. I think we should be able to put that up main, you know, anybody should be able to be able to do that up main street, not just where it's zoned, you know, blue or, you know,
>> commercial business. I think it should, if somebody wants to do that and they have the property size to do it up main street, they should be able to. and that it'll help helps the town. So, uh, one of the things I encourage Victoria is that we should start, like I said, this is our sixth meeting regarding this. I
think we've pretty much gotten down to what we're looking to do. Um, I think now we should, we're going to have public hearings. We'll probably start that in the beginning of the year in January. But before then, if there's anything that we can do, we know Victoria and I will go over it. if
there's any kind of public, you know, whether it's a, you know, two question survey or um whatever we can do as far as getting public input, you know, via social media or the town's web page. Uh we're going to start doing that just to
get input, you know, I think that's >> just to get ideas. I don't want I don't want to go to spring meeting and people are like, "What? I What do they I've never heard about this. I don't know what's going on." So, if we can just start throwing it out there that this is what
we're trying to do and get people's ideas and we can start vetting those ideas when we have the public hearings, we've already got a list of what people's ideas are and we can, you know, go that route. >> Mhm. Okay. Doria,
>> I have one question. >> Shoot. So I don't with the name thing just before we start, you know, doing that public outreach, we're going to want to just either keep the name or pick a different one just so we're not changing it in the middle. >> What was that? What did you just said?
>> No, I was just saying this would be the village district like it always has. And then out there would be the greater. >> So you guys would have two separate districts >> only for the the district. It's probably only for basically what probably what I explained was just because of lot size
changes. >> Right. So the village district is X and then the greater would be >> because we're at 10,000 we're at 10,000 square ft here in in the village district. Am I correct? >> Yes. >> Okay. Um but when you get past certain point it is not going to be 10,000t
lots. It's going to be where >> and you would want to keep that larger lot size. >> No, we're going to discuss that in a They're going to have to discuss >> the lot size and that's going to be moving on to the next >> resident a district >> for residential but I mean for the
business district that we're talking about. So if we say that's the greater village district and we're trying to say this is village that's greater village this is 10,000 this is >> 30,000 >> and commercial down main street >> mix use
>> mixed use mixed use >> right I I get what you're saying we're not going to say it's 60,000 square ft if this is what we're trying to do >> right yeah cuz >> right if we I think right 30,000 sounds sounds pretty good
>> but since that's a good segue into the next topic which is continuing discussion on amending residential district. So let's I want to clarify what we're just talking about. So if we're going to make Main Street from the business, you know, just let's
say from this stop sign all the way down Main Street to Lake >> mixed use. That's not all going to be 30,000 ft. Yeah, >> that's not going to be 30,000 ft² all the way down Main Street all the way, you know, then everything would be
30,000 square ft after that. It can't be. >> We can't do that. So, um, it could be great mixed use. I mean, but it's mixed use in the village district as well. So, it'd be
>> Yep. It's, you know, whatever. We're going to come up with a with a lot size out there. Um I mean, but it would have to At what point does that um where are we now? Where where does it stop now going up main street? You can't
say that's 30,000. >> Right now you got 10,000 square ft up. Well, no. You got the yellow. That's 10,000 ft. All this yellow is 10,000 ft. That's the That's >> what's this? This is this right here, right? Right. No, that's the main the street.
>> Okay. So, the 10,000 currently, even though we we've got a 10,000 square foot loss, this stretch of main street is >> not no,000 or is that what? >> Even this even from >> No, those are heating down is not
>> the village district if I'm not mistaken. Even though it's still red, even though this is still commercial, >> but that this is prim is residential. >> Correct. >> So, >> but as it's running through here, um I
don't know exactly what the zoning is, right? I'm assuming it's the same lot size zoning. Um >> it's >> in between in between here and here. um at that point right >> within within this >> current I'll call them borders for the business
district >> from here out even though it's still considered business village >> it's not 10,000 square feet anymore >> right >> no it is >> it is >> anything that lies within whatever we're
calling that is red orange >> within the business village district is 10,000 square ft is the dimensional standard is for the lot size >> and then it says village basically is what you're saying, right? Village district. >> Well, I'm talking >> I mean you got you got business village
and we >> I'm talking about the business village district. So, anything that's outlined >> right now, >> anything that's within this red in within the business village district, it doesn't matter if it crosses into where abuing residential a I should say.
Anything within that district is 10,000 ft minimum lot size. >> Do you know what I mean? >> Mhm. >> Okay. So, it does go out to >> uh All right. Without seeing the map, there's Hamlin Street. We are stopping
short at is Hamlin Purging Roger. So that is uh Wayne Street is where that stops. Am I right with that? >> Right now I think >> right now
it's near Olive Bara a >> Oh yeah, that would be actually you're right. I miss I miss Olivivera Avenue because this is Roger Avenue. You're correct. Okay. So, that's where it stopped right there after uh the package store. Jason's variety over there.
>> So, all the way up to Jason's variety is 10,000 square ft >> within the business village. Yep. >> So, you're more or less going to keep it to 60,000 ft. Just you're going to be able to use it for business. Well, the lot size would be different in that zone
>> in this particular zone right where it is right now. Yeah. Yeah. >> Correct. Yeah. >> Yeah. But the surrounding, you know, the abuing residential a district will would remain the same. You wouldn't be unless I mean the part that you're reszoning of course. But >> Right. >> Yeah.
>> That's going from here. of anything from here out other than existing lots would be I mean there's not a whole lot of 60,000 square foot lots from there to Hland Street either not on Main Street >> going back up through there
>> if there's any at that point those are all definitely similar lots to Oliver Avenue Roger Avenue which are probably 10,000 square foot lots or 15,000 square foot lots I'm not sure what's inside of Yeah. Um,
>> like I said, I was hoping to, you know, it's just turning out to be a little bit more complicated than I had first assumed, but um, >> I know it would be cuz you get the same thing here. I mean, it's I'm I'm just I'm just kind of curious why it didn't
this business district only covers one side of Main Street. once you get past um >> Yeah, that's kind of odd, too. >> Yeah. >> Which and I also like the red that whole red area is only 300 ft deep.
>> Yep. >> And this is something that I brought up before is you know if you have if you have I don't know what this lot is, but let's just say hypothetically it's all upland and building. Let's just say >> it's all Rose land by the way. I think that one right there. >> This is No, >> yeah. All the way in the back over
there. I think this is all Rose land. >> All right. So, let's just say it's Ros. >> Let's just say this lot was all buildable and it's all up. >> Why should they stop here? Why couldn't they, you know, throw a road in and put some businesses back here? Depending again on the who it butts and where it's
at. But why should it stop 300 ft in if if they're capable of going, you know, 500t or 600 ft, why why should we stop them at 300 ft? Same with this law here. Again, I don't know these laws, but I'm just looking at the size of this
lot. Why should we continue this at 300 feet? If this person was able to put in a road and then open this up and and and put in a business in here, again, I don't know what kind of property it is, but that's kind of the situation that I'm looking at with this red line. One of those laws, the one that bust that
rose on one, I think is the land trust. >> It goes down to the cushion down to the uh Cushian River. >> Mhm. >> Y >> off of uh what is it? Street. >> This is This is Morrison's Park, I believe, right here. That goes down all
the way in the back over here, which is on the bottom of the hill. This has Hamlin Street right here. We've got these and then there's there's a lot here. There's this deep in the back over here. That's uh Morrison's property in the back that goes from Main Street all
the way all the way in the back. >> Look at this piece right here. This is a really big piece of Again, I don't know if it's wet. I don't know if it's buildable. I don't know anything about it, but it's got a little bit of frontage on Maine. If this person owned this and we and they put in a road, >> this is this is land trust.
>> Yeah. That's that's land trust right there. >> Victoria, that's the stuff we need to try to get. You're >> absolutely right. >> We got to identify. We were talking about that this morning was Victoria's idea that we we have yellow shading, we
have blue shading, we have all different, you know, village district is orange. >> We need to find a color for uh >> open space. >> Open space and recreation. >> So when we're looking at a map of a cushion, we know that this is off
limits. This is this, this is that, this is, you know, um >> Buzzards Bay, this is P Park. This is Buzz's big coalition. Uh we need to be able to look at this map and say, "Well, these lots are all taken. We can't really do anything with this." Right now, we're looking at lots that I'm
looking at and saying, "Wow, these are potential y >> lots when they're not." So, yeah, that's definitely something that we're going to jump on as well. >> Yeah, this connects. This is this is one swath of Broadway that connect. Is that part of the master plan to get those lots recognized as
>> No, but I think it should go into the OSRP, the open space and recreation plan. I think that's a good good goal for that. >> Yeah. Right. >> The open space and recreation plan. >> That's so that's something we're doing um in conjunction with the master plan.
So basically that's a more specific um you know plan that talks about our open space and recreation goals like do we need another park? um you know is this particular par parcel good for trails that sort of thing um water access you know stuff like that
>> we need something that either overlays this showing what we already >> I'll call it basically it open space stuff that's already either land trust or protected yeah protected >> property it makes it easier to visualize
as well when we're having these >> and this will this will unfortunately will shrink quite a bit. >> Yeah. But then you can really get a true picture of what's available. >> That's the point. Yeah. You know what's available instead of looking at stuff say look at that piece of then you then you realize it's you know it's protected
property already. So >> yeah cuz I think if you're going anybody's going to start doing business down there. You're really going to take properties that are already there and you're going to convert them. >> Mhm. Yeah. >> You're going to buy property that's for sale and you're going to convert it for that business. It's not like you're going to go cut out a new one or you're going to
>> you're really going to be using an existing lot. because there really isn't nothing down here in Tuca. So with that being with all this being said taxation wise >> solar is another one that
that we don't see where the solar fields are on another thing that can't be touched you know so it's all these you know that >> yeah it's a big process big there's a lot of property like you said that's already >> tied up already with whatever reason or the other being solar field protected
property so I guess that my my question is is, you know, you come down here, you're going to convert all this stuff to um all the way up both sides of Main Street right now to uh mixuse.
What does that do for people's property taxes? Is it an automatic increase or is it is this is if they got a if they got a house on it, all of a sudden you change the zoning. >> Okay. Where does what's that taxation
rate? Is it is it what happens all of a sudden? I mean, I've been living in a house for 50 years and all of a sudden you just changed my zoning and threw my taxes through the roof because now I'm mixed use. >> That's a good question for um Kelly.
>> Yep. >> Um but I'm going to without exact clarification, I'm going to say it doesn't change. Even if you build a house in a commercial district, you're still being paid. You're going to pay
residential taxes. It's when you build a business in a commercial district that you're going to pay commercial taxes. >> Yeah. As long as I'm long as we're clear on that. And I'm that's kind of what I'm hoping it is. I'm thinking that's what it is, too. >> You're absolutely right. We should get
100% clarification on that if anybody comes up with that question. That's a That's a good point. >> Yeah, that's a great question. >> It's a good point. Yeah, >> absolutely. I'm going to throw it out there, but I mean, what year did we change to 60,000 square ft? Do you know >> guesstimate?
>> Was that 96? I want to say it was a It was mid '90s, I believe. >> Yeah, it probably is around the >> Yeah, >> in the '9s, I would have to say. >> I think 96 sticks in my head for some reason. I think
>> originally I was thinking about you know um like which we can't do which is spot zoning. So I was looking at these big purple areas and like I say okay if this is if all these lots are 15,000 ft then
we should make this zone as 15,000 ft. Let's just say all the purple blotches. That's how my brain was originally thinking of doing this, but I don't think that's a possibility to be honest with you. I think if we're going to do anything, it's going to be village stays
at 10,000 square ft and then the rest of the town changes from 60 to 40 or 60 to 30 or stays at 60. I just don't think we can do this area one size, this area
another size and then all of this >> too many different size. >> However, we still we still can say okay and I'm just drawing the frictition line across over here. We can say this from here up is 60,000 square ft >> and from here down
>> down and say 30,000 then we got a 10,000 square that we can do. But I think that to >> just carve out all these little areas >> it's just I I think it becomes a logistical nightmare. >> You can have multiple
residential districts with different lot sizes. I mean that's extremely common. Yes. When >> we when we refer to spot zoning, you don't want to just change one parcel. You know what I mean? you know, you you want to zone for an area, a
neighborhood. So, I think if done if done well, I think you can have those areas be different as long as it's a large enough cluster. You know what I mean? That it's not like I wouldn't I wouldn't sit there and say, you know, pardon me reach like like this, you
know, you'd want to kind of encompass a larger area, you know what I mean? M >> um you know like this I wouldn't do like five houses but something like this is a pretty substantial area. This is pretty substantial here. You know you do have some good chunks that you could do a separate zone for. And just like Steve
said it doesn't have to be, you know, one or the other. It doesn't have to be 60,000 or 30. Like you can have those different areas. If you wanted to kind of the further out you go have a larger lot size, you could do that. There's a there's a lot you could do with it. >> Yeah. Cuz you look at Night Lane right there. You got all these small lots and
then you have this little thing over here. So up in this here couldn't be chopped up so a little more. So it was more like this because it really isn't going to make Can we get something that I know it's a little bit of work, but I mean, you know, but you should be able
to get an average lot size like for over here and over here just that you know, you know, they might range >> specific areas. >> Yeah. Just the these things the the non-conforming areas. What is the average lot size in some of the these clusters is
>> kind of gives us an idea or what what's what's >> sit in with the assessor and basically just pick her brain for a while. >> I could try and ask Serped too. It might be easier for them since they have like the data. I don't I don't I don't have the mapping software so I can't run searches like that but I can see if it's
an easy ask maybe that >> they see what they say. Um that that's and I agree with you. I agree with you, uh, Brian. Uh, >> yeah. How detrimental is that really going to be to that area when you think about it's surrounded,
>> right? >> If if we kind of surrounded this and and, you know, made this one big circle or whatever, one big outline and everything in the middle here. >> Exactly. >> You know, if these are all if these lots are all 15,000 already or 10, whatever
they happen to be, then all these non purple lots should be as well. >> Mhm. should be allowable anyway. >> Should be allowable and then you can get a lot more lots >> to Yeah, that's kind of that was my whole focus. I just didn't know how to
go about it. But that was kind of my whole thought of the process, >> right? But then you're leaning more on the residential again. >> That's the thing. >> Well, I mean the business in you don't want business in the middle of the I know what you're saying. It gets
there. However, I mean it it is a matter of you know um controlled growth of you know what we >> it's controlled growth of the town. It's also we're always we might get we might get brownie points from the state when it comes to um increasing development
because housing is always an issue in this state. So, uh, you know, it would encourage beginners to build smaller houses on some of these smaller lots and we can have, you know, Yeah, it's like controlled growth. I
guess you >> managed growth is probably a better manage. It sounds better than controlled. >> Managed growth. >> Managed growth. So, you know, I I >> which we need to do. I mean, because we only have so many right now currently. I mean it it's I mean if we go too fast
it's okay. We've got fire, police, schools. >> You don't want to go too fast but if you grow at a you know a little bit of a slower rate and then you're increasing fire increasing the schools you're increasing everything as as the town is growing uh one more residential income
two hopefully more commercial income the town grows then our departments our schools everything can grow with it as well. I I mean that that's that's way beyond my my scope of what I want to do, but it's possible that's how it would work, you know. >> Yeah. I think just those are things that
we have to, you know, just keep in mind. It's just, you know, it's it is just that, you know, um our school current school capacity at the schools. Um you know, then obviously in life safety is always, you know, another
tax burden. not only necessarily burden, but you know, it's um life safety is everybody's on everybody's forefront, you know. >> Yeah. >> But again, like you said, if if it's if we're increasing the town size
>> incrementally slowly, then I think maybe we can increase the police, throw something out there. I mean is there any way to um so you reszone u you shrink some lot sizes.
Is there any mechanism to um put a limit on on the amount of units that getting put in on an annual basis? >> I think so. That's not really
>> how many houses could be built in the town annually. >> Annually? >> Yeah, I think you know what I mean. >> I think you can, but that's definitely like just for like if we are looking for grants and things like that, that's something
that they ask you if you have a cap or I forget what the term is. >> But but again, yeah, is it totally dimensional? We just don't want to say, "Okay, we just shrunk all lot sizes and we're going to have 200 homes just built in built in town next year." >> Even though that's a little, you know, a
far stretch, but it's a concern. >> You're going to have somebody that has a big lot over there and they're going to say, "Now I can sell this lot off and I can get five lots out of it." >> Yeah. >> So, >> yeah. >> Well, and that's it. I mean, when you got a piece of property, you got to
develop it. sustainably. That's that's part of the thing to just make it a little bit more affordable >> by not having to have >> larger lots. I mean, it it's, you know, it's if you cut them in half and you can put twice as many houses in a in a given
area, um, you know, with pretty much the same infrastructure. I mean, it's, you know, there, you know, it's definitely an encouragement for for building homes. Um, and >> I I think it's something where we can
put out there as a ask to the town and let people >> um, you know, give us their opinion on what they think they want for the town, you know what I mean? Um, if we tell them and if we have a map out and this is what's highlighted that this area is
x amount of square feet, this area is the same that you know all these areas that are highlighted are now you know let's just say 15,000 square ft for you know for conversation sake. >> Y >> let's see what the residents say. Yeah,
>> you know, if we get a huge uh negative uh you know, reaction to that idea and very little uh in favor, then we know to drop the idea. Um or go a different route like you said. Maybe, you know,
10,000, 30,000, 60,000, you know what I mean? Throw that idea out if if this if this other idea doesn't work. Uh, but we can put it out there to the town and and and see what they say. >> And, you know, I think, you know, part
of our, you know, I would hate to lose, you know, all of our rural aspect of this town by shrinking a, you know, across the board, shrinking. I agree with you. That's why I don't want I wouldn't want to see all the farmland all of a sudden at 10,000 square feet,
15,000 square feet. We'd be, you know, it would that would be a catastrophe, right? And that would we definitely lose the look of the town. But if we have neighborhoods already and only 1 2 3 4 5 6 seven lots are not part of this
neighborhood but are but the neighborhood. >> Mhm. >> Then what's wrong with those five or six lots being part of this neighborhood? You know what I mean? >> Oh, I I I don't I don't disagree with you on on that aspect for that. >> Where are those lines drawn? I guess at that point, but that's something I guess
we just got to >> Yeah, we'd have to work out, like you said, looking at the average lot size for those clusters, I think, is is important. >> This is a work in progress. This is the And I think this one may be more more complicated than the previous conversation we were having. Uh but yeah, we'll just keep chipping away at
it and getting public um feedback and >> and working on it. Try to try >> it's going to and it's going to be just that a work in progress. I mean, if you if you start to, you know, reduce, you know, take a section of town and reduce the lot sizes one step at a time and you
can go back and you can go back >> that's what I'm with you about. Let's, you know, one we'll pick a section and say, you know, this is what we're going to do for right here for right now. >> Yeah. See how it works before it gets far out because uh just um >> Yeah.
>> Uh because developers get they just it just natural. Everything's about money, right? So, they're going to come in if they can find a way to make money because we just shrank all these lot sizes in, >> right? >> Um, and you know, the um the amount of,
you know, you put a house up for sale in this town, as long as you're not asking crazy money, um, it's sold in very short order, you know. Um, it's a desirable town to be moving into because of its aspect. However, you know it gets um
>> so if you want to do it step by step or area by area then we should in my opinion concentrate on the areas closest to >> the center >> the center of town. >> I don't we don't we shouldn't concentrate on this area. we should maybe, you know, think about these areas
here that are the closest to the village district, you know, um and then we can maybe go out a little bit further uh in town if this works and if it's something that the residents agree and and approve,
>> but still do the mixed use. >> Definitely the mixed use. >> The mixed use, that's a whole different one. I still want to make mixed use commercial all the way to Lake. separate from the zone. >> That's separate from lock size. >> That's separate from lot size.
>> Should be it. My thought is if we're going to do it, >> you're going to go you're going to make a loop. >> See, Victoria and I actually discussed that this morning. And um I'm of the mindset that
baby steps. Let's just go to here and then if this gets approved, okay, the next town meeting, let's do this one. You just want to jump off the roof. >> Well, there is a lot of commercial. >> It's not that I want to go to the roof. >> Middle road doesn't have a lot of commercial property. All I'm saying is
that Main Street has already got these blips of commercial property all the way to Lake Street. But if you go on Middle Road, once you pass Derry, >> it Well, you got that you've got up to Lake Street up to that point, right? So, what do you got? You got the trucking
company, which would used to be um uh London's place. when the welding welding shop, right? Um you've got whites, >> your DW DW White down that way. Um what else you got down coming down off of there? >> Um you
>> So not to not not just to kind of move this along a little bit. So you Let me ask both of you. I already know your idea. What's your thought? Do we do Main Street first? >> I thought we just do Main Street first and uh maybe jump over, you know, see how that goes. And I mean I think that's
going to be a big hurdle all in itself. So >> I think main street I think that's going to be a major hurdle. Uh and I think we have a better argument with just Main Street right now. >> Right. >> Uh just because of the fact like you just said there's a lot more >> there is a lot of sporadic commercial.
>> I think if we encompass middle on that there's a lot more residential area that with less business on there and I think we'll get a lot more opposition uh for that. But um I I do think that that
could be something that I mean we can wait until we have a full board to vote on that if if you'd like. I'm fine with that. Um but >> this is just conversation. >> Yeah, I we thought about that. We we did discuss that today and I >> you do or do you do you take it up to
nice lane in this case? >> That's what I said. >> N lane and all that's going to do is just enrich what what's already there, >> right? >> Okay. Because you cut your casual whatever it is now there. I don't know. >> It It's there. Um
>> I don't see that to be a bad thing. At least up to N's Lane. I mean, you you've already got White's He's got his >> um commercial district there, commercial business. So, that's already already part of that aspect. I don't think it's
I don't think it's a terrible thing. Then you, like you said, you come down a little bit further, you got country casuals um over here. Um what else was there? There used to be a floor shop on the other side which is >> now all those things are now nonexistent. >> Yep. >> I'm I'm I'm I mean if you want to do
that we can go N lane >> essentially make the whole >> Yeah. From here to N lane and then from you know from stop sign to Lake >> we can always see too through the public engagement and the feedback we get if residents are are open to it then why
not you know kind of add that in. But if we're seeing, you know, maybe a little weariness or start, you know, maybe we should start off small. If we're getting those cues, then maybe that's what we should pivot. >> So, I think, you know, part of the whole conversation is what are we going to allow when we call it commercial mixed
use? What are we what type of businesses are going to be by right, so to speak. I mean, but it it's not going to be um you know, um depending on you know, we got to kind of define commercial use because you just don't want manufacturing popping up
anywhere on that commercial use. We got to def we got to kind of define what those you know the limits of what can go there >> like a light business. It's >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I mean commercial is basically um when I looked it up I got a perfect example commercial commerce something
that that that you're selling. Okay. services that that that you're selling. You know, business district um in itself in a lot of cases means office buildings and things of that nature. >> Well, you can specify that's something that will definitely >> because because we have something
there's some partial language in a bylaw now of what we can do what is not permitted um along the along here. So, I mean, if those guidelines are the same, other than we there is some things about parking that we'd like to kind of
flip-flop or just allow it in the front and the back, you know, is really what the what it should be. Not necessarily pushing it all to the back because again, you put a put a restaurant out there, you know, it's people want want to see who's who's eating there, so to speak. Put all the parking in the back
and you go, "Well, nobody's at that restaurant. Nobody knows that they parked in the back." I I think if it's I think if it's an existing building, the building's already existing and there's parking in the front, then fine, they'll keep parking in the front. But if it's something that somebody's going to tear down and build new, if you got uh
storefronts all along the road, then all of a sudden you're going to notch in and put a building back here, >> I would say to keep it all storefronts and put the parking in the back is just so if if it's something new, which we don't have anything really any room for new
unless like I said, unless you tear it down. If it's a redevelopment of some sort, but if it's existing and there's a parking in the front, then fine. You know, I'm not going to >> tell the captain's place to move their parking. If there's parking in the front, then there's parking in the front. If there's if if it's existing,
we'll leave it as is. It's if something new gets built, I would I would think it would look better with the building in the front instead of in the back. But that's again that's a conversation that we can have with the board, with the public, with with a lot of people to to
nail that those things down. >> Okay, good. We're moving along. We made some progress. Like I said, we're going to do baby steps. Uh and we'll keep working on the things that we discussed here today. All right.
other business. Uh any business or any other things that came up within the last 42 hours? Uh Robinson Road. Um >> Oh, my favorite. >> Your favorite. >> Mhm. >> Victoria, talk to me. >> Okay. So, they reached out um and they
do want to replace the plantings that are dead. Um but they want to replace it with a couple different things. They said northern bay berry, ink berry, and a dwarf white pine. Um, so I believe
only one or two of those are evergreen. So only one of them stays green all year round. I didn't want to I wanted the board's opinion to see if that was acceptable. Um, if the board wanted something that stayed green all year round. Um, but they think this will do a
better job of surviving than the other species that they have planted. Well, the evergreens actually out there are the ones that are doing better than the roodendrums that they put in the ground out there. Those things are all dead, fallen over. Uh >> I'm more on the evergreens, but
>> evergreens, green giants, anything that's deer resistant, they stay, you know, they keep their >> I don't that's my opinion. >> No, I agree. I want I want something that grows 10 ft tall that stays green year round and >> gets wider, you know,
>> gets wider as it grows. gets taller, gets wider, and as deer resistant as possible. I mean, I know very little is deer resistant, but as deer, >> there are a lot of deer there. >> As deer resistant as possible, and something that grows big and tall and
green and full, and >> that's what we're looking for. >> Okay. >> And um I would recommend not planting now. I'd recommend planting uh in the spring. >> Okay, sounds good. Thank you. Next uh little note that we wanted to
discuss real quick is um 1050 Main. Uh there's a solar project that we have at 1050 Main Street. Um they've they've been stopped um because
they have conservation issues. Um, we we approved the road going in, but then we stopped them because we had some flooding issues on 1050 main. Um,
just to kind of u fill in what what was said back then. We had an area in front of the house. There's a house here and there's a dirt road that was a gravel road that was put to the back where the solar field is.
This whole area would flood every year all the time. >> Right. And this was before they >> before they touched anything. >> They it that's been flooding >> for years forever as far as I can remember. So now what they did is instead of having an area this big
because now they put a gravel road on a portion of that property which that gravel road is about almost 3 ft high off the ground. They've made the area of the flooding area 3/4 a quarter smaller. So it's 3/4 the
size. So what was happening is that area was flooding. Couldn't get past the road. It was actually flooding over Main Street and going to the neighbor across the street. >> Mhm. >> When the solar company came in front of us, uh we basically told them they got
to put a pipe under the under the dirt road to have the water continue down Maine and then there's like an intermittent stream that is at the end of Lake Street >> at the end of let Yep. Yep. >> Yep. There's an inter. So that's what
but I guess the neighbor had filled in the swale and >> twice >> twice. So they're basically kind of >> stuck but um
what what have we've had they've had conversations with >> Yep. They've had um they had a meeting in the spring with DPW um and then I believe um the administration office um mentioned that
they should work it they should provide a settlement to the AB butter so they can hire an engineer and and kind of work out the flooding issue themselves. So since then I don't believe there's been a true resolution. Um and Nexamp
did reach out to ask if that is something the planning board would be amendable to is to doing a settlement with the budding property owner that way and not having town involvement. So,
I mean, obviously this is something that I wish the whole board was here and we can bring it back up at our next meeting, but my personal opinion is I don't think Nex Amp should be settling with anybody. Uh, I think Nex AMP has
the right to continue that swale down the road that was filled in. I think Nex amp should continue continue that swale and it's Nex amp's responsibility to
divert that water where it's supposed to go. I don't think it's the abund's responsibility. I don't think it's anybody else's responsibility but Nex AMP's responsibility to make sure that water isn't flooding out onto Main
Street and it's flowing in the direction that it's supposed to flow in. That's just my opinion. >> It just seems like if they never went there though, the problem would still be there and still be there forever. >> Yes. >> Right. But they just made the problem worse by putting a road in. >> Yeah, they did cut a little bit of the
area. I I just I don't know. Um I I guess the road layout is my is my question right now. I don't know where how far I mean there's a stone wall there if I remember correctly. >> Yeah, there's a stone wall maybe 30 ft off the right side of it if you're
looking down it. >> Yeah, that that so I'm I'm just wondering where that u you know they swell over that swell right alongside the edge of the road there, right? Main Street. >> Right along Main Street. So where I I get So my question is where is the road
layout there? Is that really I mean that guy filled it in. He shouldn't have filled it in. It wasn't even his property, >> right? He did it twice. It got put back and then they went and covered it up again. And I and I think it was incumbent on the town time to say, "Hey, hey, hey, stop." >> Yeah. >> And they didn't.
>> Why not? So if they're going to divert that, I mean that's again that's something that that needs to be um hashed out because if that is I mean if he's filling it if that was you know a formed swale obviously many
years ago right when that that goes through I mean he shouldn't be disturbing it and yeah they should be allowed to use it um because of what what it is because I mean it already was taken on that water unfortunately the road at this point is, you know, um,
trapped it from running down. >> It's trapped. They did put a pipe in underneath the road. There's a eight or 10 in pipe, but >> it's like a foot and a half. >> I was just going to say it has to go over the road for us and it still won't be up to that pipe. >> Yeah. >> Right. Yeah. >> It'll go over Main Street before it reaches the pipe.
>> So, um, this is just this is another one of those that we're going to continue to talk about. Um they I mean obviously they haven't come in front of us but they did reach out for whether we'd be amendable to to their I just don't think
going to the butter and saying yeah here's x amount of dollars fix the problem. They're going to just pocket the money and not fix the problem. I think it's up to next amp to fix the problem. Uh you put the road in now. You're right. It was flooding over before they got there. You're absolutely
right. But now they put a road in and they changed the area to where now that water is the capacity of water capacity water could be held is now flowing over into the neighbor across the street. And if I'm not mistaken, there was a bad storm. Water was flowing over a car
hydroplaned and hit the pole on Main Street. We cannot allow that to continue. So, in my opinion, and again, this is just my opinion. The board will discuss and vote on it later if we have present it to us, but in my opinion, you put a
road in, it is your responsibility now to divert that water so it doesn't go over Main Street into the neighbor's property, and you get it, you know, 230 ft down Maine to Leonard area so it goes naturally where it's supposed.
>> What's what's compensate? What's um >> conservation >> conservation >> conservation's got issues in the back with their storm water. I think they're still working on that. They might have to raise their uh detention pond because I think their detention basin was actually built below water table. It was
holding water year round. So, I think they're either raising that up or they're working with conservation back there. Um I don't know how far along they are, but I know they are in >> they got a storm water agent. That's basically that's that's the same issue in front. It's storm water. >> Exactly.
>> It's storm water. So I mean they got >> the last time we had talked to him it was left in their court that they were the ones responsible for putting the pipe in. >> Yep. >> Period. That's what we all and everybody agreed on that including them. They had agreed on seeing about putting the pipe in. >> They they agreed on seeing and putting
it in. They didn't agree on putting >> putting it in. Right. >> Yeah. >> So I just wanted to bring the board up to speed on that. I mean, until they come and present an idea to us, I'm going to stand firm on something has to be done and it can't stay the way it is.
Um, I'm going to stand firm on that. This board is going to stand firm on that until they come in front of us with an engineered set of plans on what they're going to do to fix the water issue on that property. You want to put a road in, change the water, now you got to fix the water problem. We can't have
it overflowing over Main Street every year when there's a big storm. >> Absolutely not. A bridge. >> Okay. >> A lot of new business. >> Yeah, it is. >> And last but not least, gentlemen, it's just a quick reminder. We do have a site
visit uh on 1094 Main Street, Clem Way >> uh tomorrow, excuse me, Saturday. uh tomorrow, Saturday, uh at 8:00 a.m. So, we can uh walk around and take a look at that project. Can we send out a
reminder on Friday night, please? >> We will send >> I sent a text Saturday morning. >> I'll send a reminder Friday night on Saturday morning. Say, "Hey, don't forget 8:00. >> It's here that this minute, but I don't know." You know,
>> I just sit down with my doctor's appointment. It was in my head all all morning. I got to go to my doctor's appointment. What do I do? I got to I looked at my got home and I went >> forgot my doctor appointment. >> Oh no. >> Our next meeting is Thursday, November
6th. Gentlemen, anything else? >> I get a motion. >> Motion to close the planning board meeting. >> I second that. >> Got a motion. We got a second. All in favor? All right. All right.
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