She Just the bottom one? Yeah. She, It was zeroed out because A 100 and Yeah. $41. A credit balance for here. So K. Alright. It's, 06:00. I'll ask everyone to stand and say the pledge of allegiance, please. I pledge allegiance to the flag of The United States Of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Alright. Let the minutes reflect. We do have a quorum tonight. We do have, three council members present along with Eric calling in,
making it four. Moving on to the citizens form. If there's any individuals from the community that would like to address the council, now would be the time to do so. And unless Burke has some wise wisdom or pat? No wisdom. No wisdom tonight? Nothing. No. I just didn't. Alright. Everyone else is on the agenda. So, moving on to the consent agenda, slight change in letter c under the accounts payable in the amount of $60,001.34 82. Again, 60 comma 134 period 82.
I need a motion to approve. So moved. Second. K. And a motion from Sean, a second from Scott. And all in favor? Aye. Aye. Motion passes. Onto the agenda, we're gonna leave more engineering on there. We're gonna switch them to letter b or c, whatever you guys wanna do, just in case Brandon does show up. He's not here yet. And then down under, the department head and committee updates, number four under letter b, we're gonna do twenty twenty five past due payables in amount of,
dollars 1,835 and 6¢. Again, one comma eight three five period o six, and then number five. That was a number I just wrote on my paper. That the total It's not the actual number. No. I don't I wrote that number. I don't know why I wrote it right there. It's my number. That is not the number. It have we have five separate ones. It's a little more than that. We'll talk about the number. So I'll just put down twenty twenty five past due payables. And then number five, Steve Home Land Purchase issuing a conditional use permit.
And then under new business, we're gonna swap letter G, we're gonna make that an H, and then letter G will be resolution twenty twenty five-ten-three, a cannabis resolution. Again, twenty twenty five-ten-three, a cannabis resolution. Are there any other additions or subtractions to the agenda? K. Hearing none, I need a motion to approve. So moved. K. And motion from Scott n. Second. Second from Sean. All in favor? Aye. K. Motion passes. Jason, you might as well start. How about that? Then you don't have to sit along very long.
Brian. Or Brian. Brian. Excuse me. I'm looking at two different things. Brian, why don't you, yeah, come up and sit here. Ashley's got me all confused up here. I know. I wrote I'm right sorry. Sorry. I've been called worse. I don't know. If I need I don't know if I have any wisdom either tonight, so we'll have to see how that goes. But Anybody wanna follow along? We have extras since the company got out of here. I guess the the idea tonight is to run through the auto report relatively quick, hit on some high notes, give you an opportunity to ask some questions or or ask for some more details.
If there's anything after tonight that you ask or think about, Ashley knows how to get a hold of me, so I'd be happy to try to help. Before I get going on the audit report, couple things that we discussed verbally now. You know, no no disagreements with management, no difficulties performing the audit. There is one new, accounting standard technically with the compensated absence standard. In the past for like proprietary funds or business type activities, we'd set up a a liability for vacation or sick leave that was that would be paid out if you left. The new standard basically requires us to go through and say,
okay, what about the stuff that doesn't get paid out? Is there any of that that's expected to be used? And so did a little analysis there, and it's really just an accounting exercise. I don't think there's anything material that got set up. So that's the only thing new. The other soapbox item that I have just because we've had it happen a few times now, and I probably mentioned this last year, but if you have any payments that you're paying electronically, whether that be to staff, like direct deposits or, contractors, landlords, anything like that, if they ever request to re change your account numbers, like the the direct direct deposit or,
bank routing numbers, to make sure you follow that up with a phone call. Couple instances now where the internal forms that get used have been stolen or or compromised, and so they've they're legit forms or the email gets hacked. And and so it looks like it's going for the right person. Just getting more and more. And I'm sure I'm sure they'll catch on to something else too with AI, dealing with the voice recognition. Who knows? But for right now, I think the phone call would still work, obviously, not from the email that you got but from your internal records. Then we'll hop into the audit report, starting on page two.
We've issued an regulatory basis of counting. Kinda discussed this in years past. But due to the size of the city, you're allowed a different basis of accounting from the state of Minnesota. And, it it does help, with some of the reporting requirements. And so it's unmodified, which is considered a good or a clean opinion, that it's fairly stated in accordance with the regulatory basis of accounting. I'll get to a little bit of how what the difference is between that and and forward flow financials. In a nutshell, it is management's responsibility for all these financial statements and footnotes within here and then
our responsibility to ensure that they're reasonably safe. And that's what our opinion is stating is that we believe that they are. Then we get into the first audited financial statement, which starts on page five. This is the balance sheet for general or for governmental funds. And so, the general fund, if you look two lines to the bottom, you're gonna see fund balances. The fund balance would be, you know, your retained earnings or equity within each one of those funds. The general fund has a fund balance of $1,468,249. The line that you see above that is the unassigned portion,
$1,247,522. That those would be the dollars that are not restricted for any purpose. Those would be available for spending and kind of the the number that we looked at or looked at for financial health, etcetera. So, no issues as far as the fund balance and the general fund is concerned. You can see all of the different fund balances are positive as well for these governmental funds. We'll get to those non major. You can see there is a a little bit of deficit, when we get to the back of the financial statements. That gets broken out a little bit, and I'll go through that at that point. If you flip the page then, page six,
you can see three lines to the bottom. You have the net change in fund balances. Overall, on the right, you can see a positive change of $756,971, of which, five the general fund was up $582,652. This is, of course, after transfers, so there are some budgeted transfers that get made. But that's when all things were said and done, where the where the general fund was up. After that, and you can see within that section, one of the differences between full accrual and this regular fair basis is we don't
show you anything like on your capital assets that you'd have for the general fund or some of these funds. So that's really the difference. We don't show that or the related debt. We have some of that activity in the back of the financials, but that'd be one of the differences. Then we get into page seven, which starts with the proprietary funds. These are what we call full accrual financial statements. So this includes your capital assets and related debt, as well as some pension liabilities, compensated absences like I mentioned earlier, etcetera. At the bottom of this page is the overall net position within each one of these funds.
You can see overall $4,524,807 The line that you see above that, dollars 1,304,518 in total, those would be the unrestricted portion. So it's not basically tied into your capital assets. It it's it'd be available for spending. The liquor fund does have a deficit of $19,141. Keep in mind that that deficit's primarily being caused by that net pension liability. I don't know if we went through this in years past, but you're involved in the PERA.
And because of that, one of the standards for full accrual financial statements is this the plan is unfunded at the state level at this point in time. And so you basically put your piece of the pie on your financial statements as an accounting exercise. There's really no extra payment due or anything, but that it does make your financials look a little worse than they probably really are, because of that requirement. Overall, though, the the funds the linker fund is still positive, a $100,537. Then flipping the page, you can see, three lines to the bottom. Overall change in net position in total was a positive $121,101.
A big chunk of that is from the light fund of positive 132 or $123,370. Once again, this is after transfers are are made as well. Then we get into cash flows on page nine. About halfway down the page, you're gonna see a line for increasedease in cash and cash equivalents. Overall, the proprietary funds, had a positive cash change of a $109,025. You know, this is always subject to some timing differences between your payables at your end and receipts at your end, but it does pull out some of the effects of your depreciation expense that's on
your income statement that's really a non cash item. So this is a pretty good idea of where you're at cash wise, about $1,100,000 in your proprietary funds. The next several pages, pages 10 through 28, are the footnotes to the financial statements. Don't plan to go through much detail here, but we can circle back if there's questions. This would be accounting policies, if you're looking for, capital asset activity, long term debt, lots of information on that pension liability. So we can circle back in there if you want, but for right now, let's go to pages twenty nine and thirty. This is the, budgetary comparison schedule for the general fund.
It goes into a little bit more detail too, so it's a little bit kinda easier to see, which line or where the areas you were over or under budget. Starting on page 29, about a third of the way from the bottom, you could see your total revenues, about $321,000 over budget before transfers and and your long term debt proceeds. So a positive change there. A lot of that is just in miscellaneous receipts and some federal receipts that you received during the year. And then if you flip the page, you're gonna have the same thing for expenditures about a third of the way from bottom. Expenditures are about $845,000
more than budget. A lot of that was in culture and record. It's capital outlayered activity. So if you look at the bottom, anticipated to be up, $148,777, and you're actually up $582,652. So overall, a positive change, from what you expected. And once again, a lot of that was, due to some transfers. And we got the we did the bond for the echo we didn't originally put it in for that for the echo center. Yeah. Or we didn't originally have that in the budget when we planned for 2024.
Then we start on page 33 getting into some detailed fund statements. So this kind of breaks out some of the things that I was mentioning on the front. And so if we look on page let's go to page 35. Five. And, basically, what what we look for here on some of these other funds is two lines from the bottom. We were looking at your fund balance numbers. And if there's anything that looks like it's in a deficit, just making sure that, a, you're you're aware of that, and, b, if there's a plan in place to get that fund whole. Sometimes it's a transfer that's needed. Sometimes there's something that's gonna happen in future,
like, you know, maybe you take on some new debt or whatever. But so page 35, there's just, the tax abatement district is deficit of about a thousand dollars, so nothing too crazy there. And if you flip the page 36, the event center, have a tested deficit of $166,000. So, once again, I mean, the event center Which we've been doing a transfer. Well yeah. And this is before we got reimbursed from insurance too. Yeah. And we didn't get reimbursed from insurance until 2025. Okay. And But we would not set up a reschedule.
You wouldn't you wouldn't just do that yet. So we started doing when the event center roof caved in, we started paying out, but we didn't get reimbursed until the project was done. Didn't get reimbursed. The whole project was reimbursed. Okay. So Where do you think that number's at? It was what was it? 80? It was $2.50 for the contracts. $2.99 for the contractors. And then when then we had the water damage. Off the top of my head, I don't know. $3,400,000. Yeah. But I but we had a deficit of a $100 in here before. It should be around 80 though or 90.
That's what I was asking. But you transferred $20. $20 last year. Yeah. And we budgeted again $20 for this coming year. We'll have a better idea now after 2025 what that is just Yeah. Because of the when we were paying contractors and when we were getting reimbursed from insurance. It should be between 80 90 now. After the first of the year, it should be 60 to 70. Okay. And that was the goal is and I think you mentioned that last year, Brian. Well, it went way out of it. We gotta start getting down on it and Yeah. I mean, leaving it in deficit,
you're borrowing it from somewhere already. Yeah. So unless there's a plan in place to get that hole with raising rates or something like that Yeah. You almost have to do that. It gives you a better picture of where you're really at in the other funds that you're transferring from. So so, yeah, that sounds good. And and page 39 is a a nice little snapshot. This obviously doesn't have all the detail, but it it lists out all the different funds that you have, your ins, your outs, and then the balance at the end of the year. So, once again, I I pulled out the the couple deficits that you had.
There was one capital project. Looks like the the rage second edition. This could just be a a timing difference too as far as when you're receiving proceeds or We just decided not to do it. Do it. That was that was the problem we just That was the engineering fees for all the city. And it just the the cost to the city was just astronomical, so we decided not to move forward to it. Okay. So it was yep. So, yeah, I don't know if you're gonna just close that out then against the the long term designation or pay for it out of the general fund or whatever you're planning on. Just just have to take a peek at for next year.
We'll have to do it down on trade too. Yeah. It's good at deciding where we're gonna pay for it. Next page, page 40 shows your, schedule of indebtedness. So all the different debt issues is that that you have, as well as, you know, payments that are due for 2025 just to help with cash flow decisions, etcetera. Nothing necessarily to add on there. There was that one new payment bond that was issued in 2024. I would mention this real quick. Just for council reference. This is a good page for you guys just to Yeah. Bring with every meeting because it seems like we're always talking about our revolving
debt and when our bonds are coming due and what we can afford and what we can't afford. I mean, it's broken down pretty good on this page just to kind of give you guys an idea of what we got coming up here. Maturity dates in the '27 well, '25, '27, and '28, which we knew of, but it also gives you the amounts and whatnot. It's this would be a good page for for reference, for counsel, for future meetings. Mhmm. Yeah. Most of the debt on this page, I mean, is pretty cheap for cheap debt. I mean, even the 4% is not Yeah. Anything too crazy. So yeah. Then the rest of the report is really where we get into the compliance section.
And a few more things here in this section to to talk about tonight. But, really, as we go through, starting on page forty one and forty two, this is our Minnesota legal compliance letter. And so the state of Minnesota provides us with a guide where we basically go through and kinda check the box saying, yes, you did this or no, you didn't. And based off of, you know, things that were that that happened during the year. And so, on page 41, we do have, three findings that we'll go through in a second, related specifically to the Minnesota legal compliance guide.
I'll let you know which which findings those are here in a second. Then we get to pages forty three and forty four. And this is the government auditing standards report. And so this is, really a high level overview of an of your internal control structure. So as we go through things, typically, we have a couple findings in this section related to separation of duties. You know, you just have a small staff, so that's very common. The auditor preparation of financial statements is also very common and no repeats. And then we get to a couple other ones that we have.
So if we look let's turn on page 47. As we went through the audit, there was a few discrepancies that required some journal entries. The main one being, the cash reconciliation. And so we did have some discussions, because we had to make an adjustment of about $33,000 to help reconcile that. I believe or, you know, based on discussions with Ashley and and an email from Doug that it got figured out something with the system. You know, that's not audited at this point in time, but hopefully then for 2025 that this one gets cleared.
If that is the case, you know, I guess the the main thing that we look at is is the bank should be reconciled in a timely manner every month. And so assuming that gets reconciled and and tied out, you know, it should be tied out to the dollar really or to the penny. Mhmm. You know, having a second set of eyes review that, taking that reconciliation that gets prepared, making sure that the the information on there looks reasonable, looks normal, so to speak, meaning outstanding checks are listed, outstanding deposits aren't from the month before,
or something like that because outstanding deposits usually are just the last couple days of the month, which should be all that's not in the bank. And then making sure that the general ledger, if you printed it out today, still ties to what's on that bank rec. Because there's lots of things that happen. For example, once the bank rec's done, it might reconcile that day, and then all of a sudden a journal entry happens previous, and then all of a sudden, the bank rec doesn't work anymore. I don't really know what happened or transpired, but if it's something within, the system that happened, you know, we would have just expected that to have been caught the next month then.
You know? Mhmm. Because anytime that you're off, you should be able to find that issue, and it's gonna be easier on a monthly basis versus trying to do that on a yearly basis, which we we attempted to try to find something. But, I mean, it's it's kind of a needle in the haystack with cash, because there's so many transactions. So, like I said, we did talk about that. I think controls are being put in place. I think as bank recs are being done, at least for the short term, they're gonna be sent to us so we can also take a look at them. And once again, assuming that that ties and nothing changes after the fact, we should be good going forward. So just wanna make sure we discuss that one.
Wayne, without going in too much information, I saw you look at me. Ashley sent out an email this afternoon Yep. Play right. You did? Okay. In regards to that. So I think we're without going into too much information, we're all on the same page with that. Okay. Awesome. Yep. And then the last three are just, like I said, the, legal compliance docs. So the first one on page 48, there's just some outstanding checks that were getting old. There's a requirement once they get so so old to make sure that those are either reissued if they're still legit, or if you can't find the person, you have to send it to the state for unclean property.
So, making sure that that gets cleaned up. Once again, I think if the bank record is being done timely and and reviewed, that those should kinda take care of itself because those outstanding checks usually shouldn't be more than a couple months. Otherwise, you know, they'd just be reissued or or voided if you have to send another one. Page 49, there was a Adecco Center project that was about $300,000. Just there's a requirement that you have to advertise at that level. Not sure if this was a emergency type thing or something that happened.
But, Yeah. This is so when we originally got the bids for the Deco Center for the brickwork, which great construction, they came in at $1.46. And then when we had to do the change orders, all those change orders because of once they took the bricks out Sure. And they were already working on it. So, that's why it ended up being over double the amount that we initially thought it was gonna be because of the beams inside the of the brickwork. Yeah. Beams had to be done without them. Yeah. Yeah. That's kind of a tough one. Yeah. I mean, you went to do it,
thinking one thing, and something else happened. So Yeah. And then the last one is, pledge collateral, making sure that that somebody is reviewing your collateral at the bank, especially if you're expecting to get larger deposits. You know, this happens a lot of times when you get debt proceeds or, you know, some big grant that gets deposited to the bank, and the bank doesn't know about it right away until the next month. And so we especially look at year end in or, December. And so I I don't know how many days are over, but just making sure that that gets monitored.
So that is the footnote version of the audit report. Be happy to answer any questions. We can circle back or everybody's down the phone. Brian, going back to that last one, that collateral. You know, what what could we use for that instead? So I mean, are we are you talking just cash? Or What happens is the the bank has FDIC coverage up to $250,000 And there's a couple different buckets of how that works. But once you exceed that amount, the bank then to collateralize any excess deposits to help prevent your loss if they
were to go under. Sure. So then they pledge the collateral to another bank and then you use the market value. So they do have the option instead of a pledged collateral of a letter of credit, which I've seen too. The letter of credit doesn't have to to be the 110%. It can just be 100%. But, you know, that's just something that the bank needs to do on on there. We have to monitor. What's that number though? Mid Minnesota Credit Union didn't have it when we put the 775. Okay. And so we did get that resolved with them. K. So that's where the k.
Good. Yeah. I was gonna say, depending on the bank that you're using, if it's a smaller bank or a credit union, oftentimes they maybe don't work with governments as much to know that, and sometimes that happens. K. Any other questions from the council, from Ashley? No. Anything else from you, Brian? Anything else we should be made aware of? Or No. I I don't think so. I mean, I really do believe that that that cash gets figured out. The audit's gonna be done much more timely because Yeah. You know, it's it's a tough time of year, I think, because, you know,
Doug's got the tax stuff too. So there's a a little bit of a delay between when that is over and then if there's investigation work that needs to happen, trying to figure out when he's got time to do that. Yeah. And so that kinda just just drug it out a little bit. So, but if if this was if it was all ready to go and the the cash was reconciled, the AR was reconciled, I mean, it just it just be a lot more timely. So Yeah. Well, I think again, if you guys read the email today, Ashley's implemented some new stuff, and we have some, new systems moving forward that hopefully,
you know, this isn't an issue whatsoever. So Is is there a different system system, I mean, when you're tech I Versus the I mean, there could always be issues with but like Brian said, if we're reconciling, we would have caught it a month later. When you get a year out, like, the amount of transactions that go through that office on a daily, you don't know where you're starting. The reports are huge. And so if you're reconciling because even just reconciling one month is big if you're off a number and trying to go back and whatever that deposit is.
So that'll be helpful if there is ever an issue with our IT Okay. Systems. Yeah. I mean, I can't say it's never gonna happen. Right. But what happens is when we budget plan in our Banyan system, you can only have three years in there. And so when we budget plan for the next year, we need to still use or utilize those numbers. So, like, when we budget plan now for 2026, we have to do a back like, a restore and pretty much push out whatever that previous year is. So if it's 2023,
it's out. And then when we're done doing the budget planning, then we restore it back to the original. Oh. And that's how you plan ahead. And so when you do that, it creates issues. The also thing is we're I mean, we've we've known this in the past past where we have to make sure all three of us are out of fund accounting. Because if one of us does something while that backup or restore is being done, all of that information is not in there or duplicated depending on what we're doing. So, yeah, there's always gonna when you're doing stuff in a system, you're always gonna potentially have an issue.
I think Banyan's a great system. I think we have great resources there that we've utilized. I don't think we need to switch our system. I think that we just things can get caught if they're being checked more frequently. K. Perfect. That makes sense. But Yeah. Yeah. Thank you, Ryan. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks for Awesome. Appreciate it. For coming, Ryan. Yeah. Sorry about the meeting change. No. That's fine. It's all about today. Yeah. Okay. We're gonna just assume that Brandon is not showing up. I would assume it's, six 06:30.
So, which, again, I don't think we Have much. I don't think we'd have much from more any anyway other than the fact that, they were in town. Was it last week, Brad? Last week, they were in town, and they shot a promotional video for more engineering. Yeah. Brian and I and Ashley were out there, and we did some interviews, and then they took some, some videos of our levee system along with some drone footage. So I think they were telling us it's gonna be this winter sometime. This is kinda his busy time to take some videos and pictures. He's the only one.
He's the only one. Yeah. He said Brian was the best interviewer he's ever had. I'm not sure about that. So, I believe that. There's the report on more. How about that? Head of department contract negotiations. I can start. I sent you guys out, a breakdown of what both Brianna and Brian are asking for separately. And then I also put together the numbers of so if you open that document, I just put together the numbers so you guys can see, what I don't know how you guys wanna start with this. Wanna go down the list?
Are we gonna do this here, or are we gonna do it? Well, I'll ask I'll ask I'll ask this one more time. Brad and Brad. I don't know if that's for here. Do you guys want this to be public instead of doing a negotiation like we always with the other ones then? We're gonna be talking Especially with these two gone or these you know? We're gonna be talking about salary and wages and compensation, and I just want everyone to be on the same page. I don't think this is the place to do it. I don't I don't think so. That's just my opinion, but I think it should be in negotiations committee. I don't think it should be here. Not on the Well,
you would you would go into a closed session with individual ones. Oh, shoot. Yeah. They don't have a union negotiation. Oh, they don't. That's that's correct. Okay. They don't have they don't have a they're not union. That's right. Yeah. I forget that right about that. You want do yeah. That would be the second option is then each individually go into a closed session Right. With the council because the council is there. The whole council is. Yes. K. So And, again, you're missing two of them. You know? I think that would also be a a better idea too just so that we can kinda have all the information too.
I mean, it's we have with with with with, but, I think there may be more to it than that also. What I'm hearing and seeing is that, the council would like to do it in a closed session. We can still do that tonight. Obviously, you guys both have taken time out of your nights and other, priorities. I also believe that's in the best interest of everybody involved. I think that allows the council to speak freely. I think that allows you guys to speak freely. And as maybe public as maybe some of these numbers are, I I don't want the entire community knowing what you guys make,
and I don't want them to know what I make, and vice versa. Or at least the discussion portion of this. Yeah. Correct. And I think as much as, you know, we don't care about that camera, we also we're friends, and we're we're all part of this community. And, I think it just makes it easier if we can maybe sit back and talk about it a little bit more open, especially one on one. Again, you you both are asking for similar things but different. And, you both have different, levels of expertise and time with the city.
I think it's just fair if we divide and conquer this a little bit better. Seeing both you guys shake your head, I'd like to move that to the end of the meeting if possible. If you don't mind wasting another half hour to an hour enjoying our conversation and our faces. I think the rest of it should go pretty fast. Okay. Let's do that. Let's just, let's move on then to, mayor's report. I had something. I forgot what it was, and it couldn't have been that important. So, moving on to administrative clerk treasurer support. Okay. I just wanna touch base on a couple of things. Police department,
as a reminder, on Thursday, they're doing their, their, emergency training out at the school, so they'll be there. So just a reminder on that. And then, liquor store, I just wanted to quickly review our numbers there. In the month of September, we were up $1,405 in sales, and we are up $503 in profit from the previous year. Jerry and I went to the MMBA meeting. Heard a lot from a lot of the small towns around us, municipalities. I think that we're sitting actually really well from a lot of small towns. And our t two sales is going going well,
and then just got some more ideas on how we can collaborate with other smaller communities to buy in bulk to help us keep our cost down. So Jerry will be exploring some of those ideas. A lot of them are moving to online and, creating websites where people can actually purchase online. I don't know if we're there yet or if there's a need yet for us to do that. But a lot of smaller municipalities are working together to create, so you can go on and, Jerry would have an inventory and actually people can purchase right online and then pick up at the store. I don't think we're there yet.
I was surprised to see a lot of municipalities doing that. So, but, anyways, we learned a lot and, again, talked a lot about THC. It seems to be kind of the main topic. And then the the other topic is how beer and wine sales have just plummeted throughout The United States. Basically, they're down. So, next, the Public Works Building I put on here. As you guys know, we're working with the engineers from Red Architect. We got a few plans sent to us a couple weeks ago. We really didn't care for any of those designs. One of the big hiccups in it was there was no, there was no way through.
So the police vehicles or the police garage was blocking Brian and I went and met with them in their office. We talked a lot about what was what we disliked. They did send us a new design this morning, that's a lot better. However, we're gonna go meet with them again tomorrow just to move around some rooms, things like that. And then once we get that done with them, they'll send us a plan that is actually to scale, and then we'll sit down with the, public works committee and then start having more discussions with more of us there.
This one was 15 times better than the last one. You know, I think when we were talking Didn't I see that? Yeah. I have lots of marks on it. I have lots of marks on it. Because they were thinking it So What was that? I was like, oh, you draw, like, diagram everything. Yeah. This is, like, my drawer door. We've just moved it from, so Well, and that's what you and I told them. Which one? We can go north. Or two. That little storage shed. Yeah. That was what was hindering because Brian said it's on-site so we can pick it up. Figured that because then it was the ideas were just ideas were just swollen and
Yeah. They're trying to cram the wheel. Cool. I'm glad there was an excuse. That was awful. Well, the first three were awful. Yeah. So Again, I can do the So Again, I can do the talking about moving some of these rooms, and they're sending in about another 15 feet because that's really tight space to do with all of the offices. It's a single eight to five. So But Yeah. Are you guys going down there again tomorrow? Yeah. Okay. Are they Steve? Steve is joining us this time too. Oh, okay. And then, so, yeah, they said they're once we kind of give them the layout of where we want the rooms, then they're going to actually go in, do the size or the dimensions,
put in doors, hallways, things like that, so we can see it a little bit better. And then I think we'll sit down with, yeah, the Public Works Building Committee, and everybody can give their thoughts and opinions, and we can make changes. And then once that public works committee is comfortable with whatever that design is, then we'll bring it back to a council meeting and discuss it as a whole. We don't obviously have any idea yet on what it's gonna cost us. Mhmm. So, at the meeting we initially had, they said, what, $250 per square foot for office and 150 for shop space
was kind of their estimated, and they were estimating high. He said high. He got high. High, but just to Just because the way the bidding process is. Yeah. So Perfect. Yeah. Perfect. But we're trying to keep it as tight, but also, you know, we still need to be able to function. But at least this one and, Brian, you would agree with this. I see that. This one actually allows for expansion too if we need it. And it's there is no blockage on any of the police department or the public works. It's passed through in every direction, and that's what that's what we asked for Yeah.
The the first day. So The response are pretty rough. Wait. Once we met with them, we understood. They thought we couldn't go to the North. Sean Sean liked them. Yeah. Sean loved them. It fired me up. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Event center grant. So I just wanted everyone to be aware. We'll find out October 31 here. I applied for a grant for the event center. It's actually through it's an elections grant, to update your election spaces or your polling places. And it's 20,000, and my main goal is to get new doors for that building.
And then, re pour the cement leading up to it because that is Rough. Rough. But the doors are the main thing. So we, Brian came measured the doors. We got some, bids back from Nelson Windows and Company, and we'll see if we get that grant on October 31. September 24, we did the anniversary kickoff meeting. It went really well. We had 19 people show up, so way more than I ever expected. Lots of ideas flew through. I think one of the main things we learned is that we're going to do a lot of partnering with the Elsco reunion.
Couple things that I think are going to happen or what everyone wanted to see. There'll be live music both Friday and Saturday night. Friday night, it sounds like more of the, you know, businesses in the city of Ada and all of us will plan. Saturday, the all school reunion is taken care of. I talked to Jake Bicker. They're gonna do some sort of race on Saturday night, then they'll have a dance out at the coliseum. Bed races was something that popped up over and over again. So I think that would be a great event for the city to sponsor. And you sign our money, and I will plan.
Lots of ideas for, you know, businesses to get involved, lots of people willing to help. So it was a good meeting. It was a kickoff meeting. Lots of notes. We I did work with I call, a designer. We're going to design t shirts to sell. A hundred and fiftieth City of Ada anniversary, I sent over a logo. And, once we get those, Jim, I'll probably work with you on looking at a t shirt order once we get a design. I talked to Brianna. You she has some money left over in her, beautification budget. We talked about maybe getting some banners to put up.
I mean, not the entire 209, but maybe at least on 9 on East And West Main would be nice. Just a hundred and fiftieth anniversary, get them up so that people see. And then January, February time frame, I'll start sending out letters to all the businesses and ask them to sponsor. And maybe we we can generate some funds and money through there. But, yeah, lots of good ideas. And if anybody else has ideas or wants to join in, because there's a lot of things I won't be able to get to either. Speaking of banners, did we replace the, American flag banners after the June? So that's what they're also gonna use the budget for.
K. Yeah. Because I was thinking even if you don't you don't have to purchase them all, you could you could alternate, you know, American flag, hundred and fiftieth, you know, so on and so on and so on every third or whatever it was. But I knew they most of them got wrecked. So Yeah. What happened this year just because we're talking about it. I'll hit on a little bit of beautification. I have to send out an email to the beautification committee. But because the public works from clash this summer, we could not do what we were going to do with the Westside Park project, which was tearing out all of the border around the park playground set and replacing
all that mulch in there. Mhmm. We didn't have the manpower, and it rains every other day in the summer. So Yeah. It was not full time. So we have $5,000 that we had not used yet, which when we first got the initial, display sale or display Lori Lundeen is the name of the person that we found banners know that, a quote to us, and it was for $5,200. Well, we thought that the price of the flags was a little bit high on that, but Blanked in full. That was blanked in full. Yeah. Yeah. Most of them poles were And we choking.
With coffee and we thought maybe the fiberglass would be better than the aluminum ones. They're they're more durable and and heavy to me the way it sounds. So we're looking at going with if the beautification committee agrees with it, using that funds to help because the insurance wouldn't cover the flags because we were in the Mhmm. So basically, we lost all of our flags for Labor Day, fourth of July, Memorial Day. Yeah. And we need to replace them. Absolutely. And that's a huge part of our city. So, we think we have the funds available, and then it it actually was,
I think we have about $900 left if we replaced with fiberglass poles from the one company and then with the flags from another company. Because we we actually got the flags down to $22 a piece, and the original estimate was for 36. We found just another company that we can go with that that would work and that's the same as that kind of like. So Perfect. Two by fives and they're, poly instead of being nylon. So they'll be a little bit vulnerable. And if it is an issue, we could potentially sew them to make them flexible instead of just having to throw
them away percent. K. Perfect. Alter me too if that's what you guys wanna do even after the fact. You can do a flag and then a 150 of whatever. I just know, like, when I drive through, like, other small towns, Fertile, for instance, and they have something on all their light poles, it's just Barnes Ville. It's just it's it's welcoming. It's just, you feel, like, you know, like, they want you to be there. Yeah. So, yeah, I like when everything's on our poles, whether it's fourth of July or Memorial Day. It's just it it looks I do. Yeah. Yeah. It looks good. So once we get some designs back,
I'll share them, and we'll pick something, and we'll get some stuff ordered for the hundred and fiftieth. Union negotiation results. So I sent you guys, both the, Ask Me and the Teamsters, and they're all red lines. You can see where the changes were. John and Sean and Wayne and I sent them. And if there's any questions on that or if you guys want me to go through each line item, or what would you guys like to do? Technically, you guys will make the final approval. I mean, you three of you already done it. But I was gonna say yeah. Let's say, you know, we don't need to go I guess I didn't see that email,
but Okay. Just a quick run through. A quick run through is we did a five, four, and 3% levy increase. And then that was sorry. Cola for cola. Cola increase. Cola increase and then, longevity, we increased as well. So, I can And the longevity was severely underpaid. Yeah. Let me pull it up so you can It it needed to be updated anyway, especially for the the individuals that have been here, you know, fifteen plus years. We had a long discussion. Well, it wasn't even long. I take that back. It was pretty straightforward. They asked for it, and we said,
yeah. You guys definitely deserve It could change a little bit. Yeah. So we upped it a little bit. So for example, five to nine years of service, it was a $170. Yeah. Upped it to a thousand. 10 to 14 years was $230. We upped it to 1,500. Twenty to twenty four years was $400. We upped it to 2,500. And then twenty five years and above, it's $3,000 per year. So, And with COLA's, is that that public works and PD? So but we we did remain the same with the PD and with Yep.
The AskMe. Both are 543. Yep. Yes. So everybody is the same on that. Mind you, that's not what they started at. This was this was heavily negotiated. Mhmm. I think I think you three that were sitting here with me would agree that, they were polite. We were polite. They came in asking high like anybody else should, and we found a common ground. That 543 is definitely not where they were starting. I think we all left comfortable after it was all said and done. Again, they weren't asking much more than they deserve anyway.
Yeah. So those are the big the big changes. A few small things, insurance, obviously, will revisit once we get those numbers. And then a few things for Public Works, like, the on call pay was increased by $2 a day and couple small things. So Okay. Yeah. I guess I'll probably just have you do, Yeah. I need a I need a motion. Yeah. Motion to approve. Yeah. Got a motion from Wayne. I'll second. Second from Sean. Well, being both of you guys were in there and agreed to it already. Any further discussion? Eric, do you got any questions?
I do not. Thanks. K. All in favor? I do not. Motion approved. K. Then moving on to, the 2020 I think I wrote down '25. It should be 2024 past due payables. No. It'll be 2025 because it'll get assessed on 2026. K. So, yeah, these are, like, unpaid utilities, mowing, things like that. We've got one, two, three, four, five, six of them. The reason why I had that number written first is because Seth forgot to to put this person on the list, the King property. Yeah. And we had that with the junk removal when we cleaned it up. So, you can pass it around.
So it's gonna be 848. 22. So these just get rid of roughly $6,500? These get, certified to the county, and now they'll get placed on their taxes for next year with the hopes of us getting it back. Getting it back. Yeah. Keeping in mind the top one, which is $6,610.5600 bucks. The top one is $405,700
dollars of that. So that property is going to go to auction here yet this year. Ashley and I had an email correspondence with the county today. They're basically just working out the eviction notice for the individual that's in there. Once that starts, the property is gonna go up for public auction for thirty days at market value. If it doesn't sell at market value after the thirty days, the adjacent property owners get first rate of purchase on it at the, back taxes, any fees, etcetera, that are owed on it. Exactly. Nope.
So this is why I wanna get it on there. Okay. And then after that, if the property owners don't buy it, which isn't gonna happen, then it would go to public auction, starting at that minimum bid. But, the reason it was brought up today is because one of the adjacent property owners does wanna purchase it and develop it. And, so unless someone wants to buy it for, the adjusted price, was it $56.04? I'd say 50 something. $56,400. So so You wanna take a look at that? Yeah. Yeah. So each year, we do this, Wayne,
around this time, and we send out whatever is unpaid. So I need a motion, in the amount of $6,610.06. I'll make that motion. Second. K. And a motion from Sean, second from Wayne. Any further discussion? And again, the Keene property is 5700 of it. So, I'll call the question. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Motion passes. K. Steve Thome land purchase conditional use permit. Yeah. So Steve Thome called me today, and he is looking at purchasing, that half acre lot over Scanbirds,
one over on the, east of town, like, across from Steph Knutson. There's a shop on there now. It's yeah. It's Katie's old place. It's like a Quonset. Yeah. Yeah. I guess it's not really a shop. But, anyways, he is looking to use it. He wants to, he's going to heat the the existing building that's there, and then he is going to put up another, 4,000 square foot storage building on the south side of it. So being that he's gonna do that, he is going to be taking up what it would be r one zoning. Too much. Too much, green space. Green space.
And he's also going to be using it for his business. Now he's not gonna be using it for, like, working out of there. It's gonna be a storage shop for his construction business. There'll be no manufacturing, no no things of that. But being that and it's owned residential, I need to get a conditional use permit. And in order to do that, we have to take a few different steps. So one is I have to have a public hearing, which is the next council meeting. At the first ten minutes of the meeting, we can, have that public hearing. I can get it in the paper. And then if, council approves it, then I'll just issue that conditional use permit and get it filed with the,
county recorder's office, and he's allowed to do it. So, basically, she's asking if they don't ever talk about it. If you have a problem with it before we move forward with all these steps. I know that there's a purchase agreement in place right now, and I know that Steve's, wanting to move forward with it. Obviously, we're not voting tonight, but I thought, like, if this is something that we actually don't wanna do, he should probably be notified tonight. Is that something that the neighbors will be notified? Is that one of them thing that they have to sign off on? Nobody has to sign off on it.
They don't. That's just what the public hearing is. Just like when we've done public hearing on the the bonds, and we put it out to the public to come in, voice their opinions. You know, normally, we don't have any. Sure. But they're allowed to come in and voice their opinions at that time. And then after the that public hearing, then we can issue the conditional use permit. I've never actually done it since I've been in this position, but I looked into the steps today to make sure I knew what it all entailed. Sure. I thought you had to send a letter to the adjoining land owners. So It was yeah.
I No. For a public hearing, I just need to post it in two different locations for two weeks. It needs to run for fourteen days. And that either constitutes Yeah. Radio, social media, or on print. And the only reason you have to do that is if you're gonna assess them. Then you have to send a specific letter to everybody that you're gonna potentially assess. And then you also have to meet with them kinda like what we did out on the, Northwest Industrial Park. Remember when we did the curb and gutter? Yeah. Second place. Since we're not assessing anybody Yeah. Steve just wants to make his business bigger and better and improve ADA. I don't see any issues with it.
But Can't see any I mean, my concern is the you know? As long as the neighbors don't hear it or whatever, and then No. So what would the conditions be, you know, on the revoking the conditional permit? Say it three years from now, it's a lot different than what he said, and then neighbors are upset, and it's loud or whatever. Well, and that's why we do a conditional use permit. That's then it'll be up to the council that you can revoke any time. And that's why we don't wanna reclassify it as commercial. Yeah. We wanna leave it r one, because then ultimately If he does do something not satisfactory to the council or the neighbors,
you guys do have that decision to revoke him. Sure. So And, normally, I wouldn't want to see something like that in the middle of town. I I already think that there's that concept standing there, and if he's gonna improve it and make it better and not an eyesore in town, I think that it's a positive thing. Well and I I think it goes back to he's not gonna be working out of it. It's gonna be storage and, you know, overflow for his equipment. And if you guys have noticed the stuff he's put up in Borop and all the other buildings he put up, he's not putting up an old, you know, scaffolding building. I mean, he's putting up, you know, nice pole barns and important style buildings.
So Yeah. But does anyone have a problem if Ashley puts it on our November council agenda? And if you guys wanna talk with Steve, I know he'd be more than happy to talk with you. Or if you wanna get public opinion, that would be your time to do so. But does anyone have a problem for putting it on the agenda at the very least? No. I don't. K. Hearing none, let's add it to the November agenda. Okay. Moving on to new business. There's only three of you. So Wayne and Sean? Yeah. I was gonna say, Wayne, you're you can make yours up.
I thought I told you much. You can make yours up in, like, March and April. Is it is it this is it this Thursday? Yeah. I'll be at that training for the flight department, though, at nine. You know what I mean? Couple of you might do it. Sounds good. K. Ashley and or John will do it. K. K. Technically, I don't think it starts until 09:30. But That's okay. We'll do it. It's fine. We're a week off. You get long winded sometimes, so you could talk more than that. I don't know. That one bit. Okay. Trap team donation request. This is for their event coming up here in November.
You guys got in your packets. Yeah. Ashley, we have home many dollars in our gambit fund. Breaking down, 1,800. K. So if you guys look on the second page of the request, they got different increments. Different increments. Right? Yeah. $5,102.50, and 500. I need a motion something. I would make motion 5 100. Are you not mistaken? K. I got a motion from Wayne and a second from Eric in the amount of 500. Any further discussion? Nope. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Motion passes. K. Norman County Child Safety and Drug Prevention Program donation request.
Do we have a sheet for that? Yeah. Send it. Send it. Did I not see Did I not scan it and send it? I don't have it if I was gonna say, I don't think I saw that. Oh. Trap team. Really? I'm sorry. No. I don't think I see it. I'm listening to email. Yeah. I see. I don't think I recognize that. Okay. I'm sorry. Mhmm. That team okay. With that being said, we don't have the next one either. Well, the next one yeah. We the okay. We don't have that one either? Alright. I'm sorry. Some of them. I'll go I can go I think they're on my desk.
We can get them. The Norman County one is the Norman County Sheriff's Department is putting this on. So they're raising funds to put on the this drug prevention program and child safety. I have it on my desk. I can send it out to you, and we we do have time so we can bring that back to the next council meeting. It's kind of a revolving What do they request? So $500. I would say you bring it back. Yeah. You don't you don't have it in front of us. The eight of Moore of West Schools, this was sent to the liquor store, and so they do a Cougar Pride Friday donation request. We did this last year. However, this year, I was suggesting, so last year, we gave them a monetary donation,
but they're they're kinda looking for, like, prizes. And so in order to keep it within the city, I would suggest that we would donate, like, you know, maybe 10 gift cards to the liquor store and 10 gift cards to the Deco Center with, like, ten, twenty dollars each or $15 each or whatever it is we wanna do. And then we're still giving to them, and they still have prizes to give their because it's for their staff. I was gonna say It's for their staff. Everyone else was thinking the same thing. Sent it to the liquor store asking for gifts. That's what they did. And so it made me think, like, instead of a monetary it's basically well,
it's not a monetary school. It's But I It sounded like it was coming from the kids. No. The kids. And I'm like, you're gonna give them liquor store? Do you have a few kids? No. Okay. And I'm sorry. I was working at the decal Friday I was all of my stuff was probably sitting on my desk and scanning it in. I think it's also Do you have a month, or do you, you know, that I think that's a rolling thing too. So we can do that. I can send it out to you. And, I mean, we're already halfway through October. So Right. I can send those out to you. I apologize. I don't know how much that for? Just for they did not put a monetary amount.
They just asked for any sort of donations for prizes. And so if we did, you know, a $100 to liquor store, a $100 to the Deco Center, what we would do is we would take it out of our donation funds, give it to them, and then in return, they would do I guess that we could do 10 Deco gift cards for $10 so they could use it towards swimming lessons, or day passes or birthday parties, and then $10 to liquor store. It was k. The idea. But Alright. So we'll move both c and d to November. Sorry. And, we'll move on to letter e, resolution twenty twenty five dash 10 dash o one declaring a council vacancy.
Casey's gonna come next month and collect his plaque. Do we wanna order things that he's asking. I don't think he's coming yet. I don't think he's gonna get But, I don't think he's gonna get But, I don't think he's gonna get But, we'll yeah. Again, I just need a motion to approve this. So moved. K. I got a motion from Sean. Second second from Scott and, one thing on this, this is just a it's a two year council vacancy. No. Yeah. It's a one year council vacancy. Month. Which is up, December 31 of next year. So this would be a good opportunity, and I'll talk with Burke a little bit on the radio about this too. It'd be a good opportunity from someone from the community,
get their feet wet if they want to, you know, see if this is something that they're interested in or not. You know, that's how Eric got on. That's how Wayne got on. It's a it's a good opportunity just to see if this is something that you're interested in. So I would encourage anyone from the community, reach out to, obviously, one of the council members, Ashley or myself, and we can go from there. But, I got a motion and a second, resolution, twenty twenty five dash 10 dash o one by roll call vote. Eric? Aye. Scott? Aye. Sean? Aye. Wayne? Aye. Resolution twenty twenty five dash 10 dash o one passes.
And then, resolution twenty twenty five dash 10 dash o two, the pair of retirement for the fire department. And this one was not sent out on the packet because Glenn sent it to me. We just did it last night. Yep. In our regular meeting. So I I knew it was coming, but I didn't have the actual resolution to but I can pass it around. So, essentially, our fire department is switching their retirement plans. Everything's the same. They're just moving to PERA. And the reason they're moving to PERA is they don't have to do an audit anymore. So they save that money every year being on It's $5.
The relief association being on that. Yeah. So they save the $5 every year. Otherwise, everything is exactly the same. We're still doing the $1,900 or that they get in their retirement a year. That was approved earlier this summer. Remember, we increased it. But it's just approving that we accept that they're moving to PERA. K. Sending a motion. Any motion. Sean, I know you're abstaining. I don't know. Yeah. I'll make that motion. K. I got a motion from Scott. Second. Second from Wayne. Any further discussion? Eric, can you hear us alright still? I can. K. Resolution twenty twenty five dash 10 dash o two by roll call vote.
Eric? Aye. Scott? Aye. Wayne? Aye. Resolution twenty twenty five dash 10 dash o two passes with Sean abstaining. Department updates, public work. Resolution twenty twenty. Resolution 2025 dash 10 dash o three, the cannabis. So this is actually actually something we decided on maybe a year ago was to dodge, the Norman County and and just follow whatever they do. So the city itself doesn't have our own cannabis. Now this is not this is not THC. This is cannabis. So this is the, you know, retail distributors and growers of cannabis.
We had decided yeah. It was probably over a year ago. Sean and I sat in the in meetings, and we decided that we were just gonna follow the county, let the county be in control of it, and not adopt our own, which most cities are doing. I was called, well, Friday maybe, whatever day. And we're so that the county has it on record, they would like us to just sign this resolution that states that they're in charge of it or that we're following whatever they decide. So they do have a cannabis ordinance. They have put it together. It is out there. Essentially, the takeaways from it is they're allowing two Two.
Right? So yeah. In Norman County. For our county. Yep. For our county. So that means in Norman County as a whole and if we wanted to change that, we could come in and be like, well, we're we're allowing at least two in ADAS. So you can allow two out in the other con county, but two are gonna be in ADAS. So now there'll be four in the county. Well, we chose that We didn't want to extend that number. For the time being, let's just yeah. So Let it sit. If there's any disagreement in the future, we can change our policy? We can change our policy,
and we can create our ordinance at any time. And But at this point, no one's come to myself, Ashley, or as far as I know, any of the council members about having anything in the city of Ada. So I just know the other ones. In Shelley. And and, technically, we cannot have an ordinance that says we are not allowing it. We have to allow at least one in our county. So Yep. If the county approves one in Ada, we have zero choice of that. Right. We don't have any say. But also on the flip side,
if we had our own ordinance, we are required to have it allow at least one. So I don't think there would be two placed in ADA in the whole county, but yeah. K. So I need a motion. I'll make that motion. K. I got a motion from Scott. I'll second it. Second from Sean. Any further discussion? Nope. K. Resolution twenty twenty five dash 10 dash o three, by roll call vote. Eric? Aye. Scott? Aye. Sean? Aye. Queen? Aye. Resolution twenty twenty five dash 10 dash o three passes.
K. Now moving on to public works department updates. I was not there. What did you, come up with on that plow? Send it with text. Did you see that text there there? But anyways, we had a new plow, the one we had on our 02/2004, Sterling. It just it was shot. It blew well at it so many times last year. So we looked at a new one. It was $18,000 for a brand new one. Bruce Fisher said, I think I could find one online. He actually found one last Friday Yep. Last week. Yep. Thursday or Friday.
It came to we actually purchased it because it was auctioned. It was under 5,000. So $4,720. Neil went and got it at Crystal, Minnesota today. Oh. And it looks almost Brandon. Really? The guys said said they barely used it. We just gotta change the mounting on it. But that looks very simple. We were looking at it when he brought it back to me. So Can you take that off the other one? Yeah. The mount Okay. The other one and put on this phone. Looks like there's one big two inch bolt on there Mhmm. And then slide into,
like, a a little frame part there where it stops it from tipping back and forth. Sure. Looks really simple. So, you know, let's say 14,000 a dollar, 13,000, whatever. You're just gonna scrap yield on them? Yeah. Yeah. Well, that was a good idea you had then. It was. Yep. It's amazing. He had this pretty rough shape. I mean, it made a new cylinder with no hoses. It was rusty. We kept looking and found this one. And this one, pretty impressive. Perfect. It's amazing how many trucks and plows are on that site. It's it's constant too. K.
Anything else? Public works? K. Public safety? We didn't meet. We're meeting next week, I believe, for this month. K. The only thing I got down Yeah. We gotta approve the two new members. The fire department members. The fire department approved the two new members. So it's just I don't we don't approve them. Mhmm. It was just for you guys' awareness that there's two new members, and they passed the background check. So unless you wanna pack anything The member yeah. The members approve them. And then it just usually goes through the background check first. Yeah. EDA?
We didn't meet. We didn't meet? Beautification? Did not. But I'll be sending out that email about the flags. Or Did you not using the other funds? Yeah. Awesome. Back to the flags too, Brianna. I think, again, I wherever that money comes from, we'll make it work. I I think it's just it makes ADA very welcoming when they're Mhmm. When they're up. Well, and it just happened that we couldn't get that project done this summer. Yeah. So we have $5,000 there. Yeah. We might as well I mean, it's gonna beautify the city. So it makes sense. Absolutely. To be able to do that. Like I said, if the insurance did we were just waiting to hear and insurance said they wouldn't
cover it. So then Yeah. This is an option that we can use when the funds are already Perfect. Designated for What's the timeline for getting banners for the hundred and fiftieth? Well, I asked the gal to give me How soon can we get it? Well, I asked the gal if she could give me some designs by November. And then from there, I've got we gotta look. I wouldn't put up banners until next spring. I was gonna say, but winter anyways. You know? But we would try to purchase them before the December. So the goal would be to use that money this year. So she knows that by December 25,
I, you know, the if I can purchase it. But, so that would be the goal. And, I didn't know if everybody would wanna do a hundred and fiftieth anniversary banner, but we talked about t shirts at the at the, planning meetings. So I just thought it'd be nice to be a way to get people excited about or thinking about it. That maybe they won't hear by radio or Facebook or other places. So k. I think it'd be a good advertisement. Absolutely. Okay. Alright. I'm aware of my counsel. I expect you all to purchase one. You'll get them free. I didn't say it once.
I didn't play on it. Okay. I need a, motion to go into closed session, please. I'll make that motion. Okay. Motion from Sean in a second from Scott. All in favor? Alright. Alright. Alright. This meeting is moving to closed session. So You want to go first? You want to go first? Whoever wants to go first, whoever's in a hurry, and Pat and Burke, I don't have to question. Yeah. At the end of the full session, are you going to decide?