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Part 1 (Video ID: 95wUBWDYk0s):
- 00:00:03: Meeting Call to Order, Pledge, and Roll Call
- 00:01:44: Public Hearing: 58 Mid Avenue, Schlick Application
- 00:03:10: Applicant Details Revised Plans & Variance Reductions
- 00:15:42: Applicant Details Variance: Elevation and Design
- 00:17:41: Questions to Applicant Regarding Chimney and Siding
- 00:18:51: Planner Airdt Sworn In to Provide Testimony
- 00:19:43: Planner Details Pre-Existing House Nonconformities
- 00:25:36: Planner presents aerial map, building mass, and improvements
- 00:28:42: Board Questions Chimney Again, and Pool Area Ratio
- 00:30:36: Board Opens Testimony to Public for Feedback
- 00:33:04: Public Comment 1: Neighbor, Rauf Zang, Supports Application
- 00:35:21: Public Comment 2: Neighbor, Rona, Supports Application
- 00:36:24: Board Discusses and Approves the Application
- 00:39:56: Approval of Meeting Minutes and Board Member Oath
- 00:43:30: Discussion of Board Communication Preferences with Joanne
- 00:46:49: Agenda Items and Motion to Adjourn


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Good evening everybody. Thanks for coming out. This is a regular meeting of the Allenale Language Board under which formal action will be taken on the items listed on the agenda and upon any other matters may properly come before the language board. Requirements of the open public meetings act have been satisfied with posting on the public bulletin

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board in the municipal building and on the borrow websites by publication in the record on December 9th 25. Copies being sent to the Bridgewood News and the Herald News. Certain agenda items will be open to the public for comment and their testimony. The board will advise the public that such matters are

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open for their comments and or testimony. >> Okay. Uh before we start, can everybody join me for a couple of the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God,

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indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. >> Right. Welcome to the first official meeting. >> Yes. Thank you. >> May I have a roll call, please? >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Vice Chairman Deo >> here.

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>> Board member Wazala >> here. >> Board member Patrino >> here. >> Board member Laro >> present. >> Board member Ki >> here. >> Chairman Crico >> here. >> Board member Butler >> here.

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>> Alternate Ensula. That's enough. >> That's enough. Alternate Johnson. >> We're gonna do the and approval of minutes at the end of our meeting. I'd like to move this up right to public hearing for application

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file number 2026-03. Roger Schlick. Apologies again. Sorry if I mispronounced it. It's good. Okay. 50 Avenue, Alville, New Jersey 07401, block 205, lot 9. The application is to construct a second floor addition on top

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of existing first floor with the new portico pursuant to 270-14A, 270-57B, 270-57D, 270-5731, 270-57F,

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270- 64 C. 2 270-63 A1 270-63B 270-57 C 270-63-1 270-64C2

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and 270-57 C and this is carried from the public meeting of last month March 18th um where we all reviewed the plans that were presented to us and we asked for some changes agreed to some change, made

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some modifications. So, you're back before us now with said modifications. We all have the plans and thank you once again for coming. >> But you are still on and your license still standing. >> Yes, it is. and proceed.

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>> I just want to hand out a three-page exhibit surrendering the revised front of the house photographs of my home and the house to the west and then photographs of

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the rear. >> These are all new. Yeah. >> And these are no. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, these are now >> Thank you. Thank you. So, the drawings that we're referring to are David April

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10th, 206 to shoot their variance. So, I want to u first walk through the changes um that we've made based on the board's comments and concerns. Um want you to know that every variance that was requested last month has been

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either eliminated, reduced in size or increased setback. So everything is basically either gone away for >> so that whole list that I read apart from the >> yes for the record I have a planner this

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evening he'll speak the um variances um some of the questions that came up last month was when the house was built. Um so we did some research. The house was built in 1949.

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that was originally constructed in 1949 and the Allenale zoning origin was adopted July 24th, 1958. So the home was built before it's only existed in

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so it's a pre-dated structure to the I'll go through the changes and the variances as I said either eliminated increased setbacks or reduced coverages. The first the front yard set back previously was requested 34 feet to a

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front step that has been eliminated. I reduced the porch to just a landing covered landing to the front steps. So it it it reduced in size and depth went from 7'8 and 1/2 to 6'2 and 1/2 went

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from 109 ft to 50 ft. So reduced by more than 50%. So now we have a compliance setback to the first step of 35.5 and we've always had a compliant setback to the front of the second floor but increased a little bit. So that's at

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36.7. So we have enhanced front yard setback. So we have no setbacks to the front. Sideyard setback was uh previously placed on this side the right side. And the sideyard set back is based on the gross building area.

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By reducing the size of the house, the breast building area reduced and the setback um calculation resulted in a 15t side door setback compartment. That is where the first floor is and we want to stack it straight up. So, it's

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compliant setback which it wasn't before because the house was bigger. Um and it lines up now. It's compliant. So, that set back to the house is eliminated. No variance there. It's compliant. The chimney which is 6 feet wide by 18

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in previously would uh have 13 foot set back request well 15 ft of wire. We pushed the chimney in and uh 6 in so comes into the house somewhat and sticks out somewhat. So now

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the set back is 13.5. So we pushed it in 6 in. So it's a 1.5 foot encroachment versus the 15 ft. Um so it's a very small um encroachment. It's 9 square

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feet. Um so I find it fairly if you look at uh second page this is the property my property and the adjacent properties I spoke about

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the green property line the chimney go back I think the chairman asked for distance It's 30 ft 5 in. That's shown on drawing V1 that was measured. So, they each each

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have compliant set up. So, there's plenty of space. And you can see uh that wall of that house is pretty dead. There's no windows. There's no activity over there. Pretty much the back not getting too close to part of the house

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is very active. So, there's great distances, open space. I have the providing property and really I don't think anything based on what the neighbors property looks like.

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Um so that is a variance of 1.5 ft. The hardship there would be the C bar with a narrow lot. Um, the lot is supposed to be 115 and it's 75. So, we're only asking for a foot and a half, but the deficiency was quite quite

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large. I did, if the board doesn't want the chimney, I did an alternate on V6 that you have. I took the chimney off. Board doesn't like the chimney and they want to see what it looked like tonight. They felt

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it was something they want to approve. That's an alternate. The chimney the board feels the chimney. Can >> I ask a question? I think I guess um the chimney in V3 looks like it's

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actually in the window. Well, that's the case. >> It's a pretty fab fireplace, >> right? >> So, you can't leave the first floor out. It's like a box metal box with the brick. >> Okay. And you build 2x4s around it. Then

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the chimney is 2x4s that has what we're proposing inside. So the first floor would be ground. There's a window well and a window below. It's not a masonry chimney where you have to go down to the ground. So there's no

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face down. All right. Uh the next variance was the rear yard setback. Uh previous previously requested at 46.9 ft off the feet that's

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been revised to 48.4 ft and that's the set of steps in the back of the house in the heart of the house really. Um so it goes over the setback line by 1.6 ft. If you go to the third page

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of this handout, you can see the set of steps that they're talking about and the openness street stone slab threads branches where it's required. So that first step that's too close to

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the rear set. So it's 8 in tall 6t wide. So it's in my mind it's very indominous. Again it would be a C variance due to the lack of depth going front to back.

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The other variance that we requested was a distance from the house to the existing garage and porch. Um previously we requested 5.75 ft distance while 10 is required and that was due to that we

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had the second floor can leave two feet. over the first floor. We brought the back of the house to run up the rear of the house. So now the setback would be the continuation of the back wall which would be 7.75 ft. So it's a continuation

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of that pre-existing non distance of 7.75 ft. Um again if you look at you look at the photographs the third page this is an open porch used to be

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street I don't think up last year and the roof slopes back pretty fast gave so you can see a lot of trees there and so it's not like two walls that created alleyway it's open beneath and there's a gutter and then the roof

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starts shooting back to the backyard so I feel it's rather open station. So I'm just the dimension is not 10 ft but it's not exactly out of the law. The garage part is towards the east.

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So that's been improved. >> Pop out window is going to remain >> sorry that pop out window. Um the other distance uh was from the rear step to the column of the porch. Previously 2.9 ft. Uh presently we're

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showing 4.5 ft. It's uh in reviewing with the building inspector. I don't need a landing. They let me just do steps because it's a spider. So distance between the last step and the column is 4.5 ft. And again, if you look at that photo, you

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can see there's plenty of room. You come up the steps and go left, right, left. Um, the last two variances are building coverage. I'll just go over what we changed and then um the planner can talk

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to the variance or chip. Uh, previously we asked for building coverage of 20.8 that's been reduced to 19.2 2 and because that elimination of pay labor is back. Presently we're at 18.7 while 15

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ft is is allowed. So the house is already over. Um so our proposal only adds we're proposing to add 42 ft basically of a 6x6 square. Um so in my mind it's a fairly

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small request um and mainly due to the status what's affecting this number greatly is the size of the existing garage the L-shaped garage and the porch that was there since the 50s I guess um

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>> and as you proposed in the middle there's no change to the branch >> no >> no change to that whole No, I just opened it up. We were going to residite it, re- roof it. It's in dire need of renovation. Um,

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if you just look at the house, the footprint of the house, it's 12.8% versus 15. It's this garage. It's really tugging on that number. If you if the lot was a proper size and you added the garage, the porch and the house, you

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would be at 8.5%. How undersized the lot. So it shows how much this previous garage is affecting the building coverage. Last variance was F GBA. The F

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previously was 28.6. It's been reduced to 27.7% allowed. GBA was at 2574. That's been reduced to 24.94. We took two and a half feet off the depth front to back of the second floor.

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We took two feet off the back and 6 in off the front. That's what reduced square footage and GBA. Um reduce the F, reduce the GBA, also reduce the building coverage.

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a lot of compliant F would be 12.5% which is well% speaks to there in regards to the elevation I tried to do is last month's scheme I had just a skirt

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roof second floor roof flying with better lines up here. What I tried to do, bring your eye down with these low sweeping roofs, make it look more like a Lauren story house, which is basically when you walk around my block with, you know, throwing football, this is what

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you see. So, I'm kind of playing off of, you know, these roof lights that come down. It's a two-story house, but your eye comes down. Um, this a two-story house, twotory house, but your eye comes down here. Same with here. Same with here. These

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are all in that three street location. So, architecturally, I'm trying to make the house on the scale of it come down. Not only did it get smaller, it got lower in height. It's well below the allowed height, but with the design, I wanted to bring the roof lines down and

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the porch felt smaller. So, no longer the porch was still. So, like I said, every every variance that was previously requested was either eliminated, increased setbacks, and reduced

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percentages for all. Be glad to answer any questions. I mean I agree with the session that is compared to the initial lemonade in general proposal

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um or any questions. Please fire preab and wood burning or gas >> wood. >> Wood. Okay. I should need you need a enough flu

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diameter. Go. All right. >> And you're siding the outside there. Not stone enough. >> Yeah. I was going to just do the shake. >> This is that shake. >> Yeah, but the question will be shakes shingles as you show it.

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>> Okay, very good. Here we go. All right. Um, I open it up to the public on the testimony that you just heard. So, is there any questions about what you know right now?

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done. Okay, bring it back. Any further questions? Okay, please from your last name, please s >> I'm sorry.

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A I D R S T. >> No, I'm sorry. Your furnace? >> Oh, land at Oster Point. >> And your business address? >> 42 Central Park. >> Oh, nice. You will swear or tell the whole truth.

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The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. I do. Could you please put your experience on the record? Thank you. >> Uh that's fine tonight as a professional planner. I've had my license since 2013.

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It is longwand um keeps up with my credentials. I have been in front of this board before. It was a couple years ago. It was with engineering and designing. Um I've worked in the area. have been a lot of written down

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and >> perfect. Thank you. I can see everybody. >> My seven minutes start. >> Yes. You're down to five. >> Now we're down to five. Um, thank you for the applicants for the

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testimony that you can see with a lot of the everything about the project. Um, it got brought in, I understand, with with the way that the house was presented and a lot of the variances that had gotten brought down in size and reduced overall. So, a couple of the initial

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ones that we're talking about with 58 Midwood AB is the the first three that we labeled as pre-existing nonconformities for lot area and lot with um it was mentioned, but we did were able to confirm the house was built prior to the ordinance being in that

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it's a pre-existing nonconformity. I know it had to get listed as a variance, but that the lot size is 9,000 square foot and this house exists and we have that hardship that we're working with. with respect to some of we don't have any front yards that got eliminated um

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with the changes that were happening and our main thing is we have us well we have a lot of main things. So, our sideyard variance that we're requesting that was mentioned, just adding on to the previous testimony, that 13 1/2 ft, that foot and a half variance. When you look at the overall depth of the

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property of 128 ft, that little bit of um fireplace that we're talking about is 5% of the whole lot. It's very dimminimous in nature overall looking at it. Same with the rear yard. The six foot scoop in the back is about 8% of

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your lot width. So overall those two are very diminish when we speak to our C variances that are working for the property. The main thing here now we've got the building coverage and our F. We have those building to principal, but

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again working with existing, he was able to reduce off of the back that everything is staying exactly as it was with that step back for that um detached garage. The detached garage exists. It's a very nice garage and a covered area that we have there, but that is playing

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a lot into the numbers that we're working with that was previously mentioned for F GBA and our building coverage on all of those under it. You know, we're working with this existing non-conforming lot. The intention of the ordinance and the thought whenever it

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was made was you would have these 20,000 square foot lots in this beautiful neighborhood of the hood that you have in these blocks that you have. you have undersized lots, you have nine 10,000 square foot lots. It's not an intent to be building a 5,000 square foot home

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that you could build on a conforming lot. The purpose is, and I'm going to be playing into both in my testimony is both my C variances and my D variances with respect to the D, is can the lot accommodate the house? And the house in

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general is not overbuilt. It's not oversized. He's taking an existing footprint and he's going up to build out so he doesn't hit his head when he gets out of bed or take a shower. Like we're just we're trying to figure out the framing. And as it was spoken to, and I wanted to show back the picture of what

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this looks like versus the lots in the neighborhood of trying to bring a house into general conformance that any regular person or family is an extent of a comfortable and normal

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living situation, whether it's specifically I know when the variance is granted, it's for the lot. It's not necessarily for the homeowner, but whether it was this homeowner or another homeowner, you're allowing a house to be built to a comfortable standard within the neighborhood and not overbuilding

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the property. So his intent is for his daughter to eventually be part of, you know, buy this property and then when she eventually sells it, you have a decent size house that can accommodate a nice the two and a half family, whatever

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you call it, of two and a half kid family, whatever that normal standard is of a house that can accommodate that size that fits within it. It's upgrading the housing to fit within the neighborhood as it could be seen through all of that. It doesn't necessarily look

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like a complete. It brings your eye attention down, but it is a nice two family a two-story house and allows for a normal living situation. That's part of this. Ultimately, the square footage that we're working with

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with our 9,000t lot, we have 2,494 square ft where 2250 is allowed. that was brought down previously and our F is at 27.7% where 25% is allowed. Similarly, with our building coverage, 19.2% is what we're proposing where

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15%'s allowed. But when I look at the property as a whole, a lot of it has to do with the detached garage that we're working with and just upgrading a very simple house to a beautiful home that fits in with the neighborhood. I have

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one exhibit I want to show. I have a tax map, but I don't feel like showing that one. This is just an aerial map, which will be called a something. >> What's the date on that? >> Probably today. Could be yesterday. What's

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>> the 22nd? >> Okay. Thank you. Um, I could have with the mapping programs that we have to make are aerials. I could have picked aerials that showed no trees if I went back in time, but I wanted to show the trees part of this.

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This is our home right here. A lot of the point of this is with the way that the um house is shown with it going out the back. You can see I could walk it around if you can't see it, but there's a lot of trees behind the house.

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So, for the purposes of who gets to see this addition from the rear that impacts it the most is not visible with a lot of these trees. as it was shown also from the applicant with the row

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side, we have a lot of green that's happening that it's saying we're not changing that and we're literally just going up. And when you look in the neighborhood of a lot of the other houses that you can see a lot more roof areas happening, you can't really see ours right now because of the greenery

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and that is staying and that is just going up. And when we speak to the when I think about the definitions of a floor area ratio of math, you know, it is a comprehensive metric

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building mass in it's a it it you put a floor ratio and it's it's speaking to your building mass. But for the purposes of this, your building mass isn't quantitative to the normal eye of someone walking by. and what was shown

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in the plans that that were here of what can be seen and then the neighbors to the left and to the right and to the rear of what they quantitatively see is really not that much and we have to speak to that that's just numbers and that was the purpose of the ordinance

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but at the end of the day I think the intent of the ordinance was for larger size lots we're working with a very undersized lot and I believe that this building and what is being proposed fits. It's not massive. It's not overbuilt on the property. And we can

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speak back to a lot of the positive and negatives of we're not exacerbating any setbacks. We're not making it worse for the neighbors on that side. From the positive side, we are creating a home that can be used for this homeowner and anywhere else and is fitting the intent

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as it speaks to to the neighborhood. So overall, respectfully with granting all of these variants, I asked for positive. I think I was overstepping. I don't really have one, but I can just keep talking in circles. So I think I

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got to meet just with everything. >> Again, I I know the footprint doesn't change. Just one question. You have the chimney currently on the outside of the house for the new chimney. >> Yes. >> Um your heating system for your building

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near the home water boiler or hot water. >> It's going to be direct vent hot water. It's a boiler. But >> you won't need a flu side piping. >> Yeah. Both the hot water heater will be direct high efficiency and the boiler.

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The boiler is now hot. >> My concern was that for some reason we we don't allow chimney bed in the boiler. Yeah, this chimney is purely for else. >> Yes, we did.

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>> Yesterday for all of that. >> Yes. >> I don't have to add as you heard the you know the real thing to consider when you're looking at a pool area ratio. It's a D variant for

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the condition that's established and the test is you know not meeting that condition still a lot of information regarding that I think there's a lot that's still on the

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box I think it's apparent to me that there's a lot of revisions, materials, architecture, renditions, other homes in the area.

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>> I don't I don't see anything other than any other questions, comments. Okay. Once again, I open up the testimony and to the public for the testimony you just heard. Okay. Seeing that I bring it back to the board. Any other questions? How the area are there on either side?

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Are there three bedroom or four bedrooms? Um your house is now three bedrooms. >> Yeah, there's two neighbors here, but they could speak to that. Um Dubai

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west it's a four bedroomedroom who lie east it's a three bedroom so obviously concern is is that you have undersized lots to begin with three bedroom there's a lot of technical aspect here but

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small bedrooms yeah the third the the third hall bedroom is very small it's like 9 ft these are very very very tight bedrooms I put furniture in see bed and I s dress

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these are not sting on top of those kind of predetermin have any other testimony you care to give or that's Yes, I think we are there. Any other questions for

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Board? Any questions? Okay. I now open it up to the public, please. Um for comments on the overall application, come up. Please state your name. Um say what you want to say.

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Okay. Thank you. Yeah, you mic. >> Are you making a comment or asking a question? >> I'm making a comment. >> Okay, raise your right hand, please. Your name,

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sir. It's so kind. Yes, we have to get your name down. Says yes. Ru F A last name is Zang Z A N 53. Would you please raise your right hand?

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Solomon, swear to tell the truth, the whole truth but the truth. >> Good evening. Um I'm I'm coming on behalf of um I know you guys are more of the expert in terms of what the law

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accommodates in terms of the addition that he's requesting. So I'm going to leave that up to you, but I could speak on behalf of him as a neighbor and as him as a friend. Um he's been in the neighborhood for roughly a year, a year and a half. And um he's taking really

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good care of his property. Um I think given from the drawings I shared with my wife, she probably like more than our house. We really approve what he's looking to do and knowing that he has two brothers that he will eventually want to come

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more often to visit. Uh we are neighborhood, small community. We have a lot of kids in the community. I have two myself. My neighbor Joe also has two kids. And all around us are basically young families with little kids. So, I think this addition will allow to

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accommodate additional kids in the neighborhood, which would be a great addition for us. Um, I think I don't have any other comments. I know you guys are more professional like I said earlier, so I'll defer to you in terms of what is compliant, but to me it looks like it's compliant. Just going up. He's

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not creating a bigger house that doesn't fit the lot. So, last remarks. >> Just just for clarification, you live across the street. >> I live across the street um to the west. >> Anybody? >> All right. Thank you. Thank you for your

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time. Greatly appreciate it. >> Yeah. Same same thing. R O N A 63. Perfect. Thank you. Raise your hand. You sell the square from the electric.

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Um so I live across the street. Um I also have my house is also my bedroom house. Um basically everything that Mike said I agree with 100%. Um I my husband and I have both been a huge husband's house and we are excited and thrilled that we're making this update

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to the house. So it does fit the neighborhood and it's um we're just excited for it because I think it will be a great work for the neighborhood and to update this house. So but basically everything very much. Thank you. Thank you.

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All right. Anybody else? Seeing none, I bring it back to the board. Questions, comments on the application as presented. Right. Um, you know, thank you for thank you for cutting this all the variances down. So,

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I'm happy with this with this presentation. I think I think it's a great addition to the neighbors if your neighbors are all on board with this. Um I don't really see anything any comments here.

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I can't really make any comments on this as presented the set of plans by if there was anything. I agree. So if uh if there's no comments I can >> uh if you would please I'm sorry >> I think just for the reference there's a

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couple board members that >> we have signed to that also >> I wanted to also go through the conditions quickly um first comply with all of section four of Mr. Great lens of tour which is stated January 13. Um

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another condition include development of seafage pits to ensure zero net increased runoff and control of site runs. And the final condition I have is all existing landscaping should remain. >> Okay. >> All right. So having said that

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>> also whoever was not here at the last meeting minutes >> and all the paperwork that's been >> and I have it signed. >> Okay. >> Correct. >> Just like all of that paperwork as part

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of the record. Okay. All right. results. A motion um to approve or not approve this application. Either way, >> I'll make a motion to approve. >> Thank you, sir. I'll second. I have a second, please. I'll second. Thank you.

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>> Thanks. I guess. >> Yep. >> Vote. >> Please. >> Vice Chair Mandel. >> Yes. >> Board member Wisella. >> Yes. >> Board member Patrino. >> Yes. >> Board member Aguilero.

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>> Yes. >> Board member Ki. >> Yes. >> Chairman Sako. >> With pleasure. >> Board member Butler. >> Yes. >> Alternate Enelot. >> Yes. >> Alternate Johnson. >> Yes. >> Unanimous. Thank you for Thank you for coming.

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next month. >> Thank you. Thank you for coming for us. Members of the Republic, thank you for your time. Well, 8:00. >> All right. So, >> yay. >> Um, all right. Let's go back to those regular districts. Um approval of

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minutes 118 public modification uh distributed to the board. Any comments on the meeting minutes as distributed? Okay. Seeing none, can I have a motion to accept, please? Make a motion. Thank you, sir. Can I have a second?

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>> I'll second it. >> Thank you. >> Vice Chairman Delo, >> yes. >> Board member Wazala, >> yes. Board member Patrino. >> Yes. >> Board member Aguilera. >> Yeah. >> Board member Kanti.

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>> Chairman Zarco. >> Board member Butler. >> Alternate Enslap. >> Yes. >> Alternate Johnson. >> We have two other things on the agenda. The first thing is the office for Mr.

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Aero. So >> as big as >> look it up on your phone. >> Oh, look at that. Look at that. Better than you. All right, we have one. We have one. >> Look at that.

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>> Thank you, sir. >> I don't think so. >> And so affirm >> that I will support the Constitution of the United States >> and the Constitution of the States. that

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I will faith in >> I will bear true faith and allegiance to the sanctions >> in the government established in the United States and in the state >> under the authority of the people >> under the authority of the people >> that I will faithfully and partially and justly perform

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>> I will faithfully justly >> and partially perform >> all the duties of a land use board alternate alter land use board member >> all the duties of a land use board member >> according invest my abilities. >> Best of my abilities. >> Thank you.

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All right. Okay. Um, so is there anything open the ball for comment? Seeing that, I'll bring it back to the board. Anything I want to comment to Okay, I now am going to if there's no nothing else. I need Joanne,

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please. Joanne is is is now, you know, in Linda's place. There's a couple things that Joan and I have been discussing. She has some requests and and the like. So Joan, I'm gonna turn it over to you. >> Okay. If you don't, please. >> Okay. The only uh question I have is

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mostly about the packets and how to communicate with you. Now, most of all your communication will be through the land use board email. And um if you want me to comment on another email or your personal email

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that I sent something there, I will do so. I just need to know that so I can go forward. And also everyone gets the information on PD PDF. So if you wanted a print out, please let me know. I do

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have most people get both and um and just that they'll be left at the the burrow to pick up and so forth. So before before one of the problems one of the problems that I have is that we can't have >> I have my phone with me all the time like it's crazy >> right

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>> I can't have we can't have our emails on our phones we have them on our computers so we can't get them on the phones and there's been times Linda and Joanne have and even even Larry and Keith have emailed me Michael also have emailed me because it goes to the borrow email I'm

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not always looking at the borrow email because of the mail application I have on my phone I do everything throughout So if anybody needs to get in contact with me, Linda would send me a text and say it would just be one more email. Then I knew that I had to go somewhere and if I'm in New York at my job, I went

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somewhere, I'd read it or I read it and if I had to make a phone call, I would just get to a place. So that's why Joanne is asking these questions is that all of our email, everything burrowwise has to go to the burl email. But the

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question is, are you guys seeing it enough or do you need I'm going to call it a tickler for lack of better word. >> I could send it to your text or email. It's up to you. Whatever you prefer. >> Well, what I could Oprah? >> Yeah,

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>> I'll send a separate email saying I sent something to the barrel email. That's what I could do. like they could confiscate they could confiscate your phone. You know what it is is if I practice I don't log on to email. >> So I'll I'll either text you or email

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whatever you prefer. You tell me what your preference is and I can >> send >> Yes. >> So how about this? Maybe the best thing to do is maybe you have a I think you can do a group text but something comes out like that. Group text, check your email or just say

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email. you know it's coming from you and we all make sure that we have your cell phone number of course >> that we know it's coming from you >> okay >> would that work for everybody >> yes >> sure okay and then again ahead of course you know try and get try and get your packets ahead of you know the upcoming

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meeting so >> and just confirm with me if I have the proper information the phone numbers and emails public >> okay so you'll send you'll send that out to everybody >> perfect all right >> terrific >> anybody else have any pros >> next Oh,

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>> Joanne, what do we think? Three, >> I'm sorry. >> May 13th. >> No, I know. Three things on the agenda. >> Well, we don't have we think we should have two to three. Yes, we have two residents. There might be a business one

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on. And there's two other residents that haven't really they started the application, but we we'll see how they are fall. And we'll talk to Mike and see who gets it in first. >> Okay. But it looks like it looks like >> at least two >> definitely.

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>> So not going to guarantee that the next meeting will be as short as this. >> So and I think that's it. Listen everybody, thank you for coming out tonight. This is important. We we have brought this applicant back three times four times. Okay. And I wanted to make sure we needed you know we need a

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majority because all variances. So thank you for coming out. 8 o'clock guys. Thank you very much for your time. Can I have a motion to adjurnn? >> Motion. >> Motion. >> Second. >> Okay. All in favor? >> I. >> Thank you. All right, everybody. Thank

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you. Be safe.