Uh this is a regular meeting of the Allenville landing board at which formal action will be taken on the items listed in the agenda and upon any other matters may properly come before the land board. The requirements of the open public meeting act have been satisfied for posting on the public bulletin board in
the municipal building and in the burough website and by publication in the record on January 13, 2025 with copies being sent to Richard news and burrow. Certain agenda items will be open to the public for comment andor testimony. The board will advise the
public as to when such matters are open for their comment andor testimony. Uh first before we get into the roll call, if everybody would join me, please to the flag. I pledge allegiance to the flag, the
United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Okay, Linda, may we have roll call? Vice Chairwoman Bergen here.
Board member Wala here. Board member Patrino here. Board member Guggliero and Councilman Yakarino are both absent. Board member Dallow here. Chairman Sir here. Mayor Wasinski here. Board member Butler here.
Alternate Ki is absent. Next on our agenda is the approval of the minutes from the June 16th, 2025 land use forward meeting. Um, Linda passed them out for uh review. Does anybody have any comments on them?
Okay. Motion to accept the uh minutes, please. Make a motion. Thank you. Do I have a second? Thank you, sir. Vice Chairwoman Bergen, yes. Board member Wala, yes. Board member Petrino, yes.
Board member Dallow, yes. Chairman Crico, yes. Board member Butler, yes. Okay. Um, going right into the public meetings. So, the public hearings part of our meeting. Um, we have two
applications that are on the agenda for tonight. However, one of them is, uh, being delayed. I'm going to read that in there and then, uh, Larry, I'm going to ask you to just make some comments if you don't mind. Sure. Okay. So the the one that is being moved
is applicant file number 2025-09 Keith and Jennifer Bachetti 414 Canterbury Avenue Allenale07401 block 411 lot 2. It was an addition to
the house and deck expansion pursuant to 270-64B parenthesis 2, 270-63A for 3, 270-54D, and 270-B. Okay, Michael, I know that you put out a
note on this thing. Okay. Yes. Um I act as it doesn't bring it but sir so on this application we had an occasion to speak with the applicants council who intends to prosecute the case but not this evening. They asked to carry to the next meeting as of right
now. It looks like some se September 17th will be available potentially present and be on that agenda. So any of that application, this is your notice of that wait that I go to further notice in the event that
thank you [Music] for now. Uh so moving on to the second uh application is applicant file number 2025-10
Dan Osponti 101 Arlington Avenue 401 block 506 lot one and the application is for a construction one story please. Okay. Whoever is going to present whatever.
Okay. Sir, yes. You don't testify to please raise your right hand. Okay. Swear the testimony survival of the truth. Truth. The truth. For the record to spell your last name. Dan spont.
Sir, why don't you explain what I just want to if you're good? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I'm sorry. No, no, no. Two things. To sit down, please sit down. Okay. It's up to you. Sure. And Linda, are we okay? I think so. Um, is there a button on the
bottom of there? Okay, good. Yeah. So, Okay. So, please, sir, tell those while you're here, would you want to do the whole for you. Um well, so my father passed away last September. Um so my mother's at their
house like to our house. Um the original possibly going up. Uh but we have a three-year-old at home. So property that
okay um you all have you know information here um so I don't know fair take us through with maybe a little bit
more detail that's uh to the ignorance. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, after, you know, talking with architect and builder just made the most sense, you know, keep the house together, not stir too much to
go out from where it's um, you know, it's lines up with where our garage is on the side of the house already and then comes over to the kitchen. All right, Michael. I guess I'm gonna turn over to you.
So, the properties in code requires the front that street employees here tonight because The exhibition
goes quieting side street and the proposed addition is going but also into that front yard that was Dr. there needs to set that board where
considered municipal land or a situation situation or the other situation which is C2 that benefits that's benefits the general public.
So I think it's probably to get some from the problems. I discussed it with our neighbors where mostly younger neighborhood. A lot of
people age very friendly with everybody pretty nobody had anything. I imagine your house is configuration the way it is now a lot of young children back was not really design option to decide it's a better design
alternative. Um well I I mean you know basically if know facing me if this is the corner there's the house it's a ranch you want to come up why are Hey, why was mine all together?
Copies weren't sure, but the same. All right, here I'll let you refer to them so we can All right. So,
so, you know, ba based on just the layout of the house right now, um, you know, in addition to moving my mother in, you know, we we do have a 2-year-old and a three-year-old. So, we wanted her to be able to have her own space as well and have to, you know, deal with the chaos that our house at the whole time.
So, our bedrooms are on the opposite side of the house, and we figured it make more sense to put her over there and that way, you know, she can have her own have our own space too. We want to be together sometimes.
You know, we don't always like Thank you. So, what is um you know, I know what Mike was only to was just the you know, the surrounding adjacent properties and the orientation they are in relation to yours and to
understand how your addition you know, will fit into the context of the rest of the neighborhood. Sure. So, we're trying um I mean, I'm just kind of right now. It's hard to tell, but um how so hard place is a
um it's kind of a secondary street, right? This is the main street and that whole development that we did, right? Yeah. Yeah. Um and then there's a So, what what's your neighborhood across
and at a lot of other corners. So, across from us are DJ who um kids our age, but how's the like looking kind of more about the orientation of the homes?
How close is their home to perhaps like what is their sideyard versus yours? No, no, no. Their house is also on. So, both of our houses across from Harding are both facing to Hal. Yeah. Yeah.
But yeah, so so their house is facing the same direction as ours. Um and then going further down the block, then the houses start facing in towards each other. So that the next set of houses behind ours facing there's a number I believe there's a
number of ranches in the Yeah. seems to be a common architectural feature that part of the street. This is the only ranch and in your proposal you said you're going back versus going up. So the ranch
we'd be keeping it as a ranch remain and the roof pipes remain in the same house. Yes. Yeah. Very important to us in in planning it. That's not going to really work like an addition. You know, they want that to flow from inside and outside.
Make sure the house stays. Does the existing garage footprint stay the same? Yes. So, will that as that secondary asphalt driveway that's coming off of Harding, that will stay? That will stay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. We're
building behind behind that, right? Great. Currently, you have two driveways. Yes. You're going to continue to have two driveways. Yes. And you're modifying the existing deco or no?
Yes, you're modifying the existing expansion, right? Why don't Michael, why don't you go through the points right now? Okay.
All right. And then maybe we'll stop as we go through, but why don't you go through the points? So, some of the technical review comments we had suggested that we should hear some testimony regarding, you know, the public use of the
looking at the architectural plans. [Music] zone kind of living extended living space but we assume that you know that not going
to be isolated individual department still going to be integrated and basically operated at the one building it's not going to be yes oh yeah um and as far as the finishes and the
color and the materials of of the addition assuming that that's going to match the rest of the house testing finishing it so it looks seamless and it's cohesive. That is what
and uh any exterior plated [Music] just nothing. So there so we can assume that there won't be any lighting that's going to be issued. Yeah, there is any lighting that's
required entry doors and exactly. I mean I you know you're you're building a an entry just here off the garage. So with what appears to be with three or four stairs. So there'll be some there'll be some whatever. Right. Yeah.
So whatever doorway lighting you need but nothing but nothing spilling lights or Okay. And what about I mean will there be a new AC put in hope not right
um side of the yard that right I say it's on the other side right now. I just want to make sure that you know a new one's not going to be put you know right on within that. Yeah that was what we had. Perfect. Or or if for some
reason you do need to add inions meet the yard set requirement screen it's going to be within the Yes. So if that does come out to be needed as you're building through this
thing, that's something that would then be addressed with the building department in a building and when they file for building [Music] you're willing to absolutely work with us.
I can't I can't tell, but um the height of the trees that are lining the street on Harding. Um if you were to build back, is the height of the addition still below that tree line so that no one can still see it? So that will still be blocked from the street view.
Yes. What was the answer? I don't think I heard people asked question about how close the other property was on the other side. I didn't get the answer. It's um they're so across horning from
us. They're unaling so it's forward facing but it's not I mean it's across the street. It's not very close at all. I I mean I don't I don't have a measurement or anything now.
This 15 ft is significant. Sure. I mean the layout of their houses, their house faces Alton, their driveway comes out onto [Music] um
the Michael, I'm not here as I told you. We're going to go through your point, but I didn't want to ask any question, please. along the property line, what I will call northern property is knowing the area.
Um, what's what's across the back of this? Is there is there is there fence? Is there there's bushes? Are there trees? Are there? So, it's Yeah, it's like my kids call it the woods. There's like a there's a buffer. There's there's a buffer with trees, you
know, it's mostly evergreens and then there's a Okay. So, I guess where I'm trying to get to is that when I look at the Z1 map that's that your neighbor to the north has a shed.
Okay. Do you see the shed from your property? Um, I mean, it's behind the trees, so not you know, not clear. Not clear, right? Yeah. So, therefore, if somebody staying in the shed with the existing trees, what you're proposing to build.
They're going to basically see what they already see in your house right now. Right. Or and vice versa what you're seeing in Galaxy. Yes. And you're not going to be disturbing any trees. No. Yeah. We don't want to keep that. But
where we're the area, there's no trees there. Okay. That's just one. All right. Again, um Mike, one quick question. Z1, that measurement that's on their plat plan, that measurement is taken from the
um 10 ft off the face of the curb. It looks like roughly. So like it's it's taken taken to the property, which is which is behind about 10 ft. I guess because what I'm looking at is
as well I guess the house on 67 which is the house that we're talking about. It looks like their um their that sideyard as well just in keeping with the characteristic of that
neighborhood. It looks like it's probably and again I'm just I didn't measure it other than looking at it on Google Maps but it looks like it's only about roughly 30 to 32 feet. So, it's almost
it's almost a very similar situation at the corner lot that has looks like at some point it had a little possibly a little bump out of sorts. So I guess the distance to go back to what we were talking about is is very
similar to what exists or what exists when you measure from I guess their property line to the edge of a garage. I think you're probably it's almost the same being out there but being out there and looking at it
seemed to be pretty consistent. So yeah and that's what I was just looking at. So if I guess if this actually that these this proposed addition is kind of set in a little bit more so that there's not a straight line of wall and it gives it some architectural
appearance that would be that would benefit the that I think there unique things here you pointed out obviously that property
right so I doesn't set Yeah, it does have the benefit of some green space between the property and the curb. It is it is a corner lot. There is a little bit of a potential hardship and you have to meet the front yard set two
streets those existing nonforming condition. Yeah, they're not going to be proper than that. And I think the other thing They'll decide whether or not traffic
stop if there is any negative effect. [Music] branch closice. And when he's out, good condition. I know ago exact additional
struggle. message. I think that right here, especially surround Good%. [Music] Amen. Yes. That's the recommended garage exclus.
[Music] um essentially the grand proposal I don't know the need for it but I feel like since you have it
you know that access system you could essentially slide this footprint of addition over kitchen and then walk
it bring it in further. Bring it into the lock. I just didn't know the significance to the door. So, so right now we we have a door where my roommate um so we do want to you know that that
option come out on both sides but also the way kitchen set up there's at that corner where the this is built on. There's two windows there. So, we're going to use the one window
still keeps the other window in there. So, you have windows on the inside. Yes. Losing one. We're not No, I wouldn't lose both. That's what they're saying. So my point
is that new floor right and again I was trying to understand essentially that whole new kitchen and then whatever that dimension 5
whole look over you up to a third. I guess I I I kind of I think they're trying I think
this whole thing like this is your chunk. Yes, you are re eliminate this. Take this whole thing and go that way. You're going to have to you relocate and move this over to here.
But if you don't need this door because this is this is probably John, what are you estimating about five feet there? Door three plus sides. Plus, how how much are you going to smash into a corner?
I mean three feet is probably max. [Music] You either go to the corner or you go to the corner this run this down but everything goes up like this is right here and this is right here and then this pulls you off. This gets
more integrated into over here. Okay. Where these steps are almost large. Okay. And then whatever this dimension is and John John and Frank are much smarter than I at this.
But I mean I'm seeing again right there's just a lot of space it seems that you can move this over to make the condition better. Right. We have Okay.
Affirmative test and we have the address. Yeah. 101. Um the reason we have that door there is for the dogs to be able to go in and out onto the deck. Currently we don't have the dogs to walk
up to this house. into too much detail, but we had the dogs first before we had kids and our son is highly allergic to dogs, but we keep dogs, so we have to keep them separated. So that door, that mud room
area in my office is primarily dogs now. They don't go into the house. So in order to be able to get them to be able to come in and out of onto the deck and yard, that's why we put that. So
I guess the option of going into K's area and then going out that way. But then like our dog through our kind of space. Did you ever think of having a door? Yeah.
to our house. They don't come in my sense because one of the other reasons why I was why I was saying pull that door out of there is because you have sliders. It looks like right counter well you have to understand
the purpose of the door. Yeah. I just didn't want to unless we're trying to That's why that mud room they're calling it like a front mud room now. So it would be more space for the dogs. Well, this exists.
Clearly we picked the wrong representative. left there but took the safe from that area should I mean yeah I mean the question is do you guys explore any other options to
push it further over the attack you want okay we have to swear you in it's okay we don't bite we don't bite right You swear from testimony about brought the Bible with truth. The whole truth of
the truth. Your name for the record, please. And is the address still the same? Same. It will be. It will be. But so we need your current address. 101 birch wood. So, um
did you Oh. Oh, yeah. I think um it was a matter of not taking up too much of the backyard, not like not going in. Like that's where the garage is anyway. So, it just seemed
like that's a good area to go back. Um, it gives some privacy to the deck to their deck area, our deck area, and it doesn't take up too much of the kids play space. If it was, you know, the
further it went over, then the more it would take up like their yard where that space is like that's where the garage is already. So, it just seems logical with the
architect to go there. If you look at the picture, you don't have a lot of bad [Music] maybe a non essential wish there was a little additional
information just the surrounding adjacent homes and you know relation to your addition. Um I see on your materials the checklist that are required. You guys listed that as NA,
right? I'm sure why it was not um provide that information. I didn't use that, but it would be helpful. So, typically um it would be you know a flat plan and you show dimensions. you
know, this my neighbor is this sparkling street just like you do on yours, you know, but more, you know, it's not as detailed with your claims, but you're just showing, you know, as we were mentioning the house street looks like it may be the same distance from the street. We're just looking, you know, at
it visually, but it would be nice just to confirm, oh, look, this is a precedent. This house is this parking street. We're not doing much different than that. Um, just get a better understanding
um you know surveys. No, you can measure yourself. One, one of the things I notic here is and maybe I'll miss I didn't have a packet, right? And photographs that be provided by homeowner.
Photographs to be provided by homeowner. Okay. And um Yeah. Yeah. And I mean we have you know we have applications come before us and I mean this the application what you want to do it's
it's it's it's good. Okay. But sometimes we need more information to understand even though we all live in town. We all you know drive down there. So we have an understanding as we're looking at this application on its merit. Okay. and how
it how it is with the rest of the neighborhood and and and what you're trying to do in there and and and again I'm seeing here it says photographs that provided by home yeah I apologize but we can definitely yeah I think if that information was
provided decision. Um, anybody else have any comments? Yeah. So, just so it's clear what the ask is. No, don't serve anybody else's land. You'd be trespassing. You'd be
spending tens of thousands and it would be useless information for you. Um, you can get you can glean a lot of this from aerials. You can sort of you can estimate, right? You don't know Mr. Reeland can get an absolute definitive setback with his software. You can estimate your setbacks of what the
abutters are. I think as you move up your block and I went down your street today, it's pretty flattering to your cause. You have a lot of properties that are similarly situated the between the photos and your estimation of their setbacks showing that they're relatively similar to you so that you're not the sore thumb of what you're asking to do
from your deviation. I think that will help potentially get the board members comfort level to vote affirmatively potentially by knowing that what you're asking for is not an undo or unwarranted deviation from the code. So anybody that looks like your property as you're
proposing it with a setback deviation in that side yard while throwing rent potentially. I don't know what photos and addresses this house looks like it's about this that about that. I think that's what the guidance you're getting from board tonight.
You can't just like see that on Google Maps or you can. So that that's what I was doing before, right? Just to kind of maybe think of it. Yeah. I mean ultimately we what we're asking for is because we have to look at each application, right? As you heard on their merits and and when
we come to a decision, um this is not where it ends, right? We make a decision on this property, but then we'll have others that come down the road. So we we have to base our decision on the information we have knowing the distance to the next house kind of proving you
talk about your hardship proving why this fits in the characteristic of the neighborhood you have a house next your neighbor who's actually their stats are very close to yours I can't prove it for you but they're
kind of steering you in the direction of you proving it so you don't have to hire an engineer or survey to do a you know a detail unfortunately unfortunately this unfortunately
you know I mean it's just because of the variance you're seeking right so if you were I think if you presented that information and give us the distances for the neighboring house you know just that what you're doing to everyone's point is not going to be the white
elephant and it's not going to everything's going to this was on the checklist too. So it's not you know something that we're just throwing out here. You know what everybody that comes before the board needs to do and you know us not asking for us I feel like is in president but
future applications. Oh they didn't come they didn't provide this and you know they got a variance. You know I just feel like there's a little Were you planning on starting? Yeah. yesterday as soon as we can.
Yeah. So, she'll be moving in with another family member until the construction is done. We don't have the spare bedroom. Um, so then we'll be moving her full of confection and stuff. So, that's just
why, you know, figure out time like the architects left working on construction documents, I would imagine, still, right? Yeah. Decent, right? I mean, what could happen is if you lose a month, and that that's unfortunate the way it is with with New
Jersey with the hearing process. Um, but if you come back and the board does vote favorably, at that point, you could start moving into your resolution compliance pretty immediately. You don't need to wait the month for the resolution to be adopted. The resolution is the document which captures your approval that will prepare which gets
adopted one month after the vote of approval or denial. The resolution is memorialization of that action. you can have things move in parallel at that time so you wouldn't lose time starting at the next meeting. It it helps buy you back a month in a sense.
Yeah. Our architects they shouldn't do that because if something changes then they have to do what they I'm not suggesting you start construction documents now but once you get an approval if you if you got a vote of approval most applicants wait another
month for that resolution to be memorialized before the town will look at anything if during that month period you are ready to move with further plan materials whether it's Mr. reviewing or the building department reviewing. Most towns will say we need a resolution
in hand to do that. Allenville will not do that to they'll let that be reviewed. So you wouldn't be lying and wait for that month for the resolution. So that's where you're not losing a month. And I'm not suggesting you start construction docs now. They do change a lot. Thanks.
How many [Music] whatever you think is going to be right. Sir, sorry, not to be sarcastic. Yeah. No, no, no. Yes. I didn't know if there was the board understands that this isn't something that right this is
coming but you know the way the process is set up by regular when you come and you ask for deviation a record has to be and the record has to be by
not become part of the bindings of facts and decision the board renders is based only on the information. The board is asking you to I think further bolster the record
so that they can make an informed decision bolster their benefit and protect sanity of the record protect everyone from challenge challenge sufficient
we have to show that we have And we make this for starters everything check. Yeah. Everything on a checklist and please the checklist wasn't you know this has been a long checklist is not something that's
um No, please go. No, I was just going to say I don't know again I don't know who filled out the checklist but it does say NA next to you know providing these dimensions. I don't know why some say that you know it should be
Yeah. Um, one two other two other things. Okay. I I don't want to see you have to um JMA architecture guys. They've been they've been before.
Okay. They've been before a few times. Um, I I would like to see, you know, we talked about the landscaping. Okay. Maybe just something that kind of
details X's where the trees are, things like that. Okay. Like as part maybe even just take this thing, another sheet as part of the drawing sheet. You tell that. Okay. The other thing that I want to raise and I know that we said and I
and I've been through there too they're relatively flat properties and it's a relatively flat area but Michael I I have to you know you know where I'm going right. Yeah. This would require them if they're slowing
and as part of that you're going to have to add that's tributary as a result of I mean there is a a note I think obviously
but there will be subsequent step up to Okay. [Music] We show them information. Yeah. Absolutely. So, this was an application that got
moved, right? You can come up and just so you take it. This is same. It's a public record. I just want you to see it so that you're you know you can see what what's presented. Right. So you guys gave us a survey which is which is fine. Right. But this
details what what the chairman is suggesting the location of the trees, the size of the trees. Um this actually shows a rechargeable chamber or the rain the water the runoff that's going to
recharge into the ground. And so this is like kind of standard, right? So that we that's what we look at. And then in addition, when you have a variance like you're seeking a lot of times and even if it's on a Google map, there's some architects who come before us a lot who
will legitimately just pull a line from like four or three points that reference the distance of the house in relation to what you're trying to do. So, um, again, you're ultimately you're going to end up here anyway.
So, it's that's why a lot of times it's presented, um, in the beginning. Okay. So, hopefully it helps you. Yeah. You know, it does definitely, you know, it's not a step that you're going to be able to forego anyway. So, we need to get a picture of the focus.
Well, you're gonna again is listed as NA on the You're going to get here anyway. I I don't know, Michael, if they need to do this for the next meeting or I mean eventually they're going to get to this point, but for the for us to
for the chamber. No, for us to vote on I guess the chairman's saying maybe locate the trees, see what's gonna I mean I think are you in agreement with I I think it's it would be good to have something that doesn't
exactly run into situations before where it was misunderstanding that all the trees were going to remain taken down. Yeah, it was quite a But but again by you by you putting by
you telling they're saying existing to remain. Okay. existing to remain. Existing to remain because again all of this go to somebody at that was the easiest photograph.
[Music] We're not necessarily going to have you guys spend extra money. That is not what we're doing. Yeah. We're just we are not doing that. Very clear. This board does not do that. Yeah. But the board also needs a certain level
of information and that's again if you refer back to the checklist but the board certain level of information to make an informed decision and then it becomes the packet of information relative to your address. Yeah. So we were not prepared. So thank
you for taking the time. Thank you for showing us the example and explaining this all to us and we just have to come back with the appropriate information now. and your architect. Again, I want to be I just just we did say it, but I just want to say one more time is that the architect that you
Yeah. J he's been forced. They've been forced. So, they know Walker. Okay. They know but please I just not negative. This is I understand.
And if you have any questions during the process, please feel free. Yeah, definitely reach out okay to to Anthony in the building department or you know build she could at least help guide you too. All right. Um so
we push to the next meeting. Yeah, I think all right. So, what we're going to what we're going to ask you to do is take everything that we just said, add to your application. Okay?
We have a DNA September 17th. 17. Okay. Uh, Wednesday night, we have another application, but we're going to put things first. Thank you. Hey, Linda. Mhm. Please. Yep.
Okay. We're going to put you first. Generally, get, you know, whatever information Yeah, put a package together. Well, there there are two ways you can resubmit it. There's the statuto legal requirement which is 10 days ahead of the meeting. Calendar days not counting
the hearing date itself. That's that submission requirement. What you're talking about bringing in is relatively loom. If you didn't make the 10day mark, build it to loa as soon as you can. This way it can be distributed to board members and staff, but we have to just mark it as an exhibit at the hearing.
It's a relatively compuncter exercise. We'll walk through it and we'll mark it as a little bit for you if we have to. But the goal would be any supplemental documents are in by you know September 7th. We'll say September that 10 days minus the 17th is not and we need and
that's what and the dimensioning to um just look at all the items that are said on that NAP. You should I mean you should have it. It's the tax map might help you. We'll get a copy of the tax map sheet. That's probably on your property. It's going to
show you every immediate surrounding property tax map and draw scale. Okay. You can get dimensions structure and structure from the tax map sheet. I would think that'd be that'd be probably a good onetop resource to in addition to, you know, Google image, whatever.
Tag usually is a good source. So, it gives you a description of it. The B tax office will have they'll have they'll have on file. Yeah, it should be on it's on our website too. And again, it's point,
you know, if they can, you know, they'll get help. Okay. The only thing is if they print it online, it probably won't be the scale. It won't be the scale though. Yeah. So you'll you'll you could use it, but then just use Google to measure the distance
from let's say the curb line to the house, curb line to the house, and you could just if you printed it, it's not going to be this. And as I said, I don't want you guys to spend more money, but also your architect should be able to help to you know, take this feedback.
Okay. All right. And you know, as I said, you like Yeah, it's been before us. Okay. Right. Um, but we will make sure that you first right.
No, no, seriously, because we have an application that multiple times, so we want to get you guys done so you don't have to sit through. Okay. And then um Larry, what you said to them before is in the meantime between now and the next meeting in September, they can start submitting
everything for review to the building department. Correct. Not before the vote. Not before the vote. Vote. But but after the vote, before resolution. Yes. Yeah. But not before vote. Right. Well, he won't release it until they have a resolution in hand anyway.
Right. Before the board takes action. really is not right for building to review something that's still sitting on zoning. Okay. For a vote, all right, the issue with that. Well, you could start putting it together at home at least, you know, all your applications. Pat, I can give Pat all the information
and at least start filling everything out and then if this does get approved, you're just ready to submit. Okay. Well, well, that's the next question. Good point. Um, Larry, two things. Okay, so
they're agreeing. They're agreeing to move forward. They're agreeing to move this into No, you you don't have to renotice. Um, we'll make the announcement tonight that could be encouraged to the September 17th meeting once we conclude. Um, and we're not beyond the time needed for an
extension. I wouldn't think on this application yet or we're still within the window to act. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Don't you won't have to renotice. Say, you know, USPS certified return seats. You're done with that. The announcement tonight will be the notice for anybody in the public for the next meeting for
your project. There's the announcement. Okay, that's the announcement. And then Dan, if you could just sign this and this is saying that you'll move to carry it this September. and I hope you're available again on the 17th.
And when you bring back everything the board asked for, we need 10 copies of everything because each member has to get a copy again, you know, the of this the pictures and measurements and all that. 10 sets of everything.
Posted on the website in case we want to review anything. What do you mean the minutes for the recording? I'll ask her to put it up tomorrow usually and then she takes a few days and then it goes goes on the the website. Okay. Thank you.
Yeah. You're welcome. All right. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. All right. Next on our agenda, open to the public. Seeing none, I bring it back to the board. Uh, any other business?
I don't think we have any Well, I'm waiting for our fair share housing um numbers to be approved. Everybody's deadline um expires August, the end of August. We are still in a back and forth with um Saddle River. The judge um
forced us to sign a TWWA to allow them to um use our sewer. So, I signed it under protest and we're appealing. So, that's kind of where we stand with that. I don't know what's going to happen, but fair share housing's involved and I have a lot of power. Um, and we'll see what
all mural muralong the mural the murals. They're painting it now and that should be done um in the next like four weeks probably. And we know Chestnut Street's going to be closed for a little while for the
train. Uh New Jersey Transit repairing Chestnut Street. We're actually um with New Jersey Transit as well. Um our municipal parking lot. A lot of people don't know it's there kind of behind Fino and downtown gets a little crowded with all the restaurants on the weekend. So we're really trying to I don't know if you
notice the new parking sign and hours. So we met with New Jersey Transit because we own some and they own some. there's some significant improvements that have to be done there that's outside of our agreement. So, they're in just terrible financial shape in Jersey
Transit. They're just a mess. And um but um we we actually are looking to um uh do uh have them develop the whole entire problem, right? All the way down, right? Because there's such extens
extensive repairs that have to be done, flooding stuff. So we will take care of those repairs if they will deed us the whole entire lot. Then we can um pave it, stripe it, and really make even though we have to sign there now and people go in, they still kind of are not sure where to park. And a lot of people
still think that it's just for transit. They don't realize it's municipal parking. So um but it's crazy how people just try to park, you know, on all the side streets and double park when it's so close. So all the restaurants that just have to go in there is, you know, are not used to doing that. of trying to
train everybody up to do that. Will the improvements fix that that paving or that road right by that diner that used to be the bill diner because that that thing is I don't think people just want to drive back there. Yeah, it's terrible. And yeah, there's massive potholes. We did actually just
recently fill a couple potholes. I want to go there. I'm not driving. Yeah. No, it's pretty bad the whole area. So, we we have kind of been, you know, waiting. So, we don't want to, you know, paving so expensive. Um, we actually just put a grant in for it. So we're hoping that's going to that whole area is going to be done in the next
year. Is that a town? Is that that part of town? So we own the front part of it. New Jersey Transit back road that comes in. Yeah, that's a burrow road, I believe. How old how old is the gas and that in
that area? be nice to know kind of nudge PS that you're going to do something and maybe if they put the gas they'll be um sometimes when you let them know like some of the plans are they'll they'll
upgrade the utilities and then that's how a lot of municipalities get paving at it. Yeah. I'm not really sure what our gas situation with their gas and water. Maybe they want to extend the main something.
It's not bad. You just All you got to do is ask. Doesn't hurt to explain yet. Yeah, everyone else is doing. So, yeah, it's a good way to get some black. A lot of um new a lot of transit lots are being converted. Um towns are giving them up for fair share housing. So, they
just did that in Lynhurst. So, luckily ours is narrow enough or else that problem would be happen as well. That's it. Also, also the uh the orchard thing that was done quick parking or no bridge that they fixed
the county that was done very quick. Yeah, I thought that was going to be at least a year. Yeah, that was the county and they they did the other side. The guy kind of they were only supposed to do the one side and kind of pushed it with his foot. He kind of tilt it. So,
we wind up getting both sides. is is um the is who's responsible for the the train station structures is that floods remarkably um the building yeah you can't get across one side to
the other you mean under the train yeah people are running running over the tracks to get to their cars the tunnel the tunnel floods you need to really I mean it's it's you can't walk through it's
high you can't walk through it. So people climb the fence and and go over the tracks. I honestly did not know that it flooded that I mean I knew it flooded when we had serious storms. Yeah. Like a couple weeks ago we we had that one. Yeah. I mean people were running across the tracks. Really
crazy. Yeah. I was shocked. That's not um so that would be your transit. Um when we met with them they they basically said they have no money for any infrastructure improvements. So, um
I'll have to talk to Yeah, I don't I don't know. Going on the tracks to get to their cars and stuff. They have to walk pretty far on either side because I actually they had to walk all the way down. Yeah, you know where it is. They had to walk all the way down
behind the AM acme or now and like they that's where they had to cross and then run all the way back up to the cars. People were people were just getting ordering Ubers to drive them around to bring them to their cars. Come on. Because you couldn't get through. But you can't sometimes get to because
then the undergressed. That's I'm talking about the under Oh. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry. The other one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. One of one of the things might be in our NJT is a little bit upset about two or three deaths that occurred in Hackinack over the last month or so
with people crossing the tracks. single track on the pass valve and this is double track. I don't even know how how they safety it's just a clog I mean it's a clog dra I mean the it's just overflow I mean the the the gra this big and it's filled with mulch and
leaves I mean the things that well that's something maybe look into even though we're not supposed to do it that's something maybe we could do if it's just a hanging up gota Yes. Yeah. As they charge more for the transit.
No. Okay. Anybody else have anything? All right. Uh, everybody, thank you for um coming out tonight. September. Can everyone attend? Yes. September 17th. That's here besides mayor.
So can't hear it. Mayor can't hear it. and Tyler can't hear it, right? So, I need hand the uh this is the nursing home. We don't want to do this one on the 15. We don't want to do 15 and 17.
How many more apps are you looking at? Just um these this two from tonight, right? That and then Allenale senior. So, there's three, right? So, that's going to be a four hour
night. We're gonna do them. Yeah, that's a good idea. We did them on the do. This is gonna be quick. I think it's I can do Monday, Monday, Wednesday. If you guys want, I can do um Somebody else called and asked for the possibility to get on for Monday and
they said they'd call me back. 565 Hillside, but they never called back, but they were looking for the 15th. But um I'm not sure if they're going to go move forward or not like right now. Yeah.
Well, we just sold these we just sold them to 17, but we could always We'd have to make an announcement now. We can do it. We can do it here and now. Um, and you can do it with Bachetti and with this application. Yeah, we can make an announcement.
They're both on the 15th. Linda, you can speak to Rpante and say after the fact, Monday is better. If it doesn't work for them, we preserved it for both dates. And on the 15th, we could just make an announcement. Or if we're not here, you know, you post something saying it's going to be on the 17th. So, you could move the two residential ones to Monday
the 15th if you want. We announce them here and now. I may have And I can tell I'll tell Bruce Whitaker I was going to speak to him anyway on his application that we carried into Monday the 15th. He may want to punt anyway. I don't know. But we would need
seven members for that one on the 15th because he has D relief as of right now. Is there anything? If they don't file, it's not ours. No, we really open their hand helping them helping them tonight, you know, which was nice. It's fine, but
it's it's their obligation to bring it. If they don't file everything on time, I think maybe it's a phone call to them saying, "You still might be short hand. You might be wasting your time. Maybe come in October or you're still missing X, Y, and Z. Come in." My guess is they overkill it based upon what they heard. They probably said it more than they
need to at this point. But but even you know when we looked at I know there was some information. Yeah. So
we reserve judgment now or on the record it might be on. How many people do you need to hear that those? We need we need seven for Monday and seven for Wednesday. And we can't have a council, right?
So, it has to be everybody that's here because the other members I don't think they're going to listen to the whole meeting tonight to be able to vote. Well, that would just be Joe Kanti really and Andy.
There wasn't a whole lot that went on. You only had it was no touch. Nobody touched you other than No, they Yeah, they spoke for 10 minutes. Yeah. And that was us. I watch some of those like the bathroom. Yeah. Yeah.
Long. So, yeah. So, that's Do we think we're going to have everybody here? I mean, I know it's a month away. Well, can everybody be here on the 17th? On 17. Yes. Right. The Wednesday. Yes.
So, that's only six, though. That's because the mayor can't vote. So, we need to know we need to make sure, right? But then he also would have to listen to tonight's meeting to be able to vote and possibly Andy at this simple
simple majority. This one this one we don't. So that's okay. Yeah. Yeah. It's more it's more than and then if Canterbury if we listen to Canterbury then Canterbury we need Canterbury too. Okay. And and wait and Andy said
so. Okay. Um Linda, can you by Friday let um the mayor and Larry and I know see if you can reach out to them, get a
commitment for the 17. So Andy auntie because the rest of us are sitting here saying I'm gonna be Yes. Okay. Okay. Michael,
right? All right. Any other business? A motion to adjourn. Second. All right, everybody. Thank you.