Pursuant to chapter 20 of the acts of 2021 and extended again by chapter 2 of the acts of 2023, this meeting will be conducted via remote means. Members of the public who wish to access the meeting may do so in the following manner by clicking on the link on the uh
town website under the board of licensed commissioners page or giving Steve McCarthy a call. Um, no inerson attendance of members of the public will be permitted, but every effort will be made to ensure the public can adequately access the proceedings in real time by technological means. In the event we are
unable to do so for reasons of economic hardship and despite best efforts, we will post on the Ammerst website an audio or video recording, transcript, or other comprehensive record of proceedings as soon as possible after the meeting. And with that done, we'll do a roll call of order. George
>> here. >> Hi >> here. >> Amanda >> here. >> And I'm here. That is four here and one commissioner. Kurt Sundine is absent. All right. The next up is public comment. And this is public comment unrelated to anything on the agenda. If
you have general public comment, please raise your hand by pressing the raise hand button. And there's no one here to raise their hand. Correct. >> Correct. >> So, okay, we'll move on. to licenses and annual liquor license
renewal applications. So, we're just going to do this the way we did it last time and we'll ask Steve if there's anything outstanding on any of these. Uh we'll take them category by category and do a motion, a second, and then a vote. >> So, Steve, is there anything outstanding
on the annual liquor license renewal applications that we have here? The latter two I am still waiting on liquor liability insurance. Um and everything else the rest of the day is um is all set. >> So is that Spear Point or and Panda?
>> Yes, that's correct. >> Liquor liability. But that shouldn't doesn't necessarily mean we have to hold up the vote on them. Correct. >> Um yeah, it could it could be approved contingent on um on getting those things. >> Okay. So if that's fine with everyone um as long as everything else is in order.
is if there's a motion to approve uh these 1 2 3 4 five liquor license applications, the ones for Spear Point Enterprises and Panda Enterprises contingent on their um liquor license insurance. >> Motion to approve.
>> Thank you. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Uh we'll do George. Thank you, George. And if there's no further discussion, we'll take a vote. George. >> Uh, yes. I >> Hie >> I. >> Amanda >> I. >> And I vote I. That is four to zero with
one absent. And those liquor licenses are approved. Okay. The next up is common victer's license renewal applications. Uh, and here we have seven. And how are these doing, Steve? >> These are >> Oh, no. We've got more than seven. Hold on. Is that Doy 15?
>> 15. >> Yeah. Sorry, I didn't go down to the second page. >> So, these are all Okay. Yes, they are. >> Okay. So, nothing outstanding. No questions from anyone. If not, is there a motion to approve these common victual license
applications? >> Motion to approve. >> Um, George had his hand up. We're going to take that. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Thank you, Amanda. Um, we'll take a vote. George, >> I >> uh Amanda >> I.
>> And I vote I that is four to zero with one absent. those common fictionals license applications are approved. Next up is live entertainment license uh for Kaiju doing business as the archives. >> This one's all right, Steve. >> Yep. Nothing outstanding.
>> Okay, great. Is there a motion to approve the live um entertainment license for Kaiju? There are no >> motion to approve. Okay, [laughter] >> we'll do um Amanda this time and then is there a second? >> Second.
>> Uh thank you, George. Um All right. And we'll take a vote. George >> I >> Hie >> I. >> Amanda >> I >> and I vote I that is four to zero with one absent and that license is approved. All right, last one up is the auto
dealers license renewal application. Uh, Mhola doing business as Reliance Auto on Belttown Road and is nothing >> nothing outstanding with this one. >> Okay, great. And is there a motion to approve this one?
>> So moved. >> Okay, who was that? Amanda or Hi? >> Hi. >> Hi. All right. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Thank you, Amanda. We'll take a vote. George >> I. >> Hi. >> I. >> Amanda >> I. >> And I vote I. that is 4 to zero with one
absent and that license is approved. Okay, so that's the big business and then discussion topics is upcoming meetings and agendas and that is um are did we say January 8th was in person?
>> Yes, in the town room. Not >> in the town room. Right. Okay. So, this is the one this is the flammable uh liquids license application, right? >> Yes. And there will also be a new liquor license application for >> and a new liquor for who is that for?
>> Uh Tilted Orbit Arcade at um the former provisions location up in square. >> Okay, great. Um so have you gotten do you have the as soon as you get the paperwork for that flammable liquids license, could you send that around? >> Yes. >> As soon as uh just so that we have a
little background on it. And do you have you heard any indication of how many people might be interested in attending that hearing? >> I don't know that. I do know it's located in a um co-op complex, I guess you'd call it, um >> Okay.
>> with um at least a couple dozen units. So, there may be some um some some of those residents in attendance. It's their um homeowners association that's that's >> approved the application and requested the work to be done. Okay. >> Um, and it's a pretty rural area
otherwise. So, >> so you don't know happen to know how many of Butters notices were sent out to you. >> Um, well, it did go to all the residents, right? >> It's condo wise. And then, um, I don't believe there were that many of direct to Butters, maybe five or six or something like that.
>> Okay. All right. So, we might ac be expect a few people. Okay. Um, so I don't know if there's anything we want to talk about how the hear the last hearing went and how we'd like to conduct this hearing. So we'll be in the
town room again. We'll have people there for the liquor license application. We'll also have maybe some people for the flammable flu liquids license. And um it's a little bit of an I found it a little awkward last time because there seemed to be some person who was having
trouble hearing and um I almost wanted to ask them to come forward and sit a little bit closer. Everyone seemed to be towards the back. So I don't know if it's if that's appropriate, Steve, if we can like say those of you who are interested in the hearing for the flam liquids license if you could move
forward a little bit. Um, >> are we allowed to do Can we >> We could offer we could say if anyone has a hearing or sight impediment or need need feel free to move closer. >> Okay. Yeah. >> Do you know how can they hear us without
those microphones because we kept you know you have to push the button and turn them on and then >> I think um >> can they if I just >> generally a person with normal hearing probably could but somebody um with impaired hearing might not be able to probably be good to use them and I think
it would also probably be good to um be a little bit more um formal about where the applicants and those speaking sit so they can use those microphones as well cuz people are kind of standing and Right. >> Last meeting. >> And so where do the That's right. Um which I hadn't been in the town room in
so long. And then uh so there are microphones at that front table right in front of the kind of the circular dis right. >> Yes. And I can try to configure it better. There was kind of almost two tiers of seats at the front that were kind of confusing. So I can try to configure the room better to be less uh
confusing. >> Great. And then we should also I should also ask them for um their name and their address. Correct. so that you could enter it into the record. >> Yes, that'd be great. >> Yes. Okay. And um is there anything else? Does anyone else have any concerns about the hearing?
>> Would it be easier to have a piece of paper for them to sign as they do comments? Like write things down for Steve. >> How would that work, Steve? >> We could have a um a sheet like that. Yeah. I mean, people wouldn't be obligated to fill it, but they're not
really obligated to give their name either. So, >> okay. comments, you know, if for the note, you know, for the record >> in the minutes, maybe they'd be willing to >> helps with spelling. Definitely. >> Yeah. >> Okay. And then the guy who is the the the contractor will be there, correct?
>> Yes. >> Department as well. >> And the fire department. And um so we can ask the contractor to come up, kind of give his testimony about what's going on. You know, we can ask him questions about his experience. Um, that kind of
thing. >> Any questions that anyone has about uh and this is a a submerged, correct? This is under the ground. >> Underground. Yeah. >> Propane. Large propane tank. Okay. And then we'll have the fire department representatives come up and they can
also answer any questions. And um you don't I guess we can ask them. I don't know if there are any of these other tanks in around town. Like I don't know how common they are. I mean obviously that there are oil tanks at gas stations but >> is this George propane that's doing this?
>> Yes. >> Did I remember that? Yeah. >> Yeah. >> We have an underground tank that he put in our yard. >> Oh, okay. Great. >> And far it's been pretty safe, I think. >> Okay, wonderful. >> Um, but that's really all I know about
it. I mean, I have I don't have a lot of He inspects it. He comes once a year and inspects things and um you know, I guess he's on a schedule where he comes automatically maybe every couple of months to fill it. Um
so we we haven't had any problem at all. >> Okay. >> Right. >> Good. Okay. So, um, >> and, um, George, you may just to be on the air and the side of caution. I don't know if you've taken your conflict of interest training yet, but just, um,
disclose that at the beginning of the meeting, and if if you don't feel that that that would have a, um, >> and an effect on your ability to, um, to, uh, >> uh, be a fair adjudicator, then you could just state that. But, >> yeah. Yeah, sure. I don't I don't think
it would be, but, you know, sure, I'm happy to do that. I got finish that online course. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> Yeah. >> Um All right. Are there any other questions or concerns about that hearing >> or both? I guess maybe two hearings on the ETH.
>> So, is this other liquor license application for the pinball place? Is that like an open hearing or not? >> Yeah, that's open. >> That's an open. Okay. So, I do open the hearing, close the hearing, that kind of thing. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, do we know much about the age
the age of the kids that are going to be coming to this place? I mean, is it are there is there going to be a sign that says, you know, 21 and above, or is can anyone go in, but they only serve liquor to to people that are over 21?
>> I believe they're going for all ages as their as their audience. Kind of a familyfriendly all ages type of thing. >> Yeah. Got it. >> Okay. And then is this is a is this an all alcohol or is it >> I believe it is all alcohol.
>> Just wine and malt. Okay. All right. So, they're going to have some way of trying to control that. Um Okay. Are there any other questions about either of these hearings? So, we probably won't do a whole lot of
discussion that day, correct? Unless we have time to do Hal's um hearing procedures. Are you still >> planning on presenting on that? >> I'm going to do the following next time we're in person. >> Next time in person. Okay. All right. Um
>> so on this meeting coming up, we can we're not just asking for comments, but we can also ask questions or >> Yeah, absolutely. So, um, so how it'll go, just to give you it, is, uh, we'll be in that the big town room where you see the town council sit and we're going
to be at the kind of in that semi-ircular desk area and, um, I'll ask for a motion to open the hearing >> and we'll do our motion and second and a vote and then uh, the hearing will be open and at that point the I'll probably
call the representative from George Propane forward and ask about the project and he will do a presentation on the project and that's our opportunity to uh ask any questions of him and we can if there are people in the hear who
are attending the hearing who would also like to ask questions they can ask questions at that point too. Um and then we have the fire department come forward and we can ask him them questions. until they'll do a presentation and um it's really just sort of like a for a lot of discussion sort of like a public forum
for uh to figure out what's going on, what questions can be asked and then we close I'll uh ask for a motion to close the hearing. We'll vote to close the hearing and at that point then just the the commissioners talk and then the there's no more public comment. There's no more testimony from anyone and then
we can vote. >> Do they leave or do they stay there? >> Oh, they stay. >> They'll stay. Okay. Yeah, everybody stays. So, um, a lot of times it's just a forum like it's a way of getting information from the expert witnesses who are going
to be there and it's a way to have sort of a public forum on uh, something that's going in. >> Okay. >> Yeah. And then we'll do the same thing for the new liquor license. >> Okay. >> Okay. All right. Any other questions about this these things coming up?
If not, we can go on to uh topics not reasonably anticipated 48 hours prior to the meeting. Anything? >> I have nothing. >> Nope. All right. If nobody has anything else, is there a motion to adjurnn?
>> So moved. >> Thank you, Hie. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Uh, thank you, Amanda. >> And we'll take a vote. George, >> hi. >> Hi. >> I >> Amanda, >> hi. >> And I vote I that is four to zero with
one absent and we're adjourned at 5:45 p.m. Thank you everybody. See you. >> Happy New Year. >> Happy New Year. >> Happy New Year everybody. Thanks for coming in on uh this day right before New Year's. >> It's so nice that it was Zoom and not in person. So, [laughter]
thank >> you. Bye. Bye, >> guys.