and then I'm GNA pull in Andre really quickly Andre you with us I am great now let's see who I can uh get all the video and stuff going go shall I start you you may start at
any time all right uh well good evening everybody it's uh February 12th 2025 and this is a meeting of the full uh Conservation Commission um we'll start out with
uh with a uh chair's report which I uh have nothing to say other than uh we've had some uh we've got some uh materials from the subcommittee and uh uh
the regular chair um Michelle La is out and as Vice chair I will be chairing today I see a hand up to start off with uh Bruce go ahead just Ting the drought declaration and Martin Freeman coming
next meeting we want to say those up for the audience for the public that's great we have uh uh in the next uh meeting uh which will be two weeks from
now um on the 26th uh we'll have uh stage dear biologist Martin freem Freeman uh come and talk to uh the commission and uh the public about um uh deer hunting in the state and um uh
about and what yeah about deer hunting in the state um and you said uh Bruce well there's a I'll just read what's on the sheet there is a drought Declaration of as of February 7th we are in a
significant level two drought um many parts of the state got less water in January than they got in December so we're okay and the Eastern Parts have gone up to critical so we need to remain
Vigilant all right um so I don't see Dave uh here he's not in so uh Aon uh this will go uh go to you for now we're going to go straight to the uh Land Management sub
committee okay um yeah so I don't have any um any updates as far as um information from Dave or from Michelle so let's go into the um uh subcommittee update from Alex and then we can talk
about um the land use applications okay Alex so in the folder for the subcommittee are two documents and we're giving to the commission our near final draft on land use
applications and that is not um there is an issue that remains open and unresolved and so the um there are two documents the issue has to do with limited liability when a fee is
charged and the law governing that which is state law is provided in the subcommittee folder so the rule is I I should preface this by saying the draft being given to you
would charge a fee for weddings and film making and require a donation for other uses of land of the land so the law reads that if a landowner
permits access to the property without charging a fee or or any other charge they have limited liability for injury and personal property damage while on their
property that changes if you charge a fee or some other charge and once you charge then that limited liability goes away and you
have exposure you the landowner has exposure to liability for injury including a minor and loss of or damage to personal property so the issue which I wrote to
Dave about is um and I should preface also that we would require um those being charged a fee to carry insurance
suitable for the town to cover the town the town also has its own liability insurance my question to to Dave was as Commissioners and employees of the town are we ourselves
exposed to uh liability for injury and loss of pro personal property if we charge a fee and this is not uh a light issue so on some boards people have been
sued and some people on boards carry liability insurance I don't know if a normal umbrella policy for your house or something covers that but anyways this is an open issue and there is a comment in the
document from me speaking for the subcommittee about explaining what I just told you so if you would when you review the document and you write comments we're specifically asking you should we charge
fees or should we just ask for a donation or just let people use the land free of charge um and I'll just recap by saying if we ask for a donation the law
says so long as the donation is voluntary the LI the limited liability still hence that's why people ask for donations I think nonprofits and whatnot so I just want to point out that what we're giving you is not settled
everything but this issue is settled any questions I have a quick question what was the answer that Dave gave you he would rather not go to his attorney right now and and accumulate a bill he would
rather wait I asked him to seek counsel on the issue and he say he would rather wait until the whole document goes to the town attorney and and ask for Clarity on that issue as part of the entire review makes
sense okay thanks Aaron um just to clarify as well um the town does uh provide liability coverage for Conservation Commission members so um that was you know I just
want to make that clear um as far as reviewing individual sections I think you know we've before this document came to the concom the entire document had been reviewed by Council but now that it's been edited by concom we'll have to have you know the town attorney review
it again um before it goes to public hearing so we're thinking let's once all the sections that the commission is approving that we're going to be taking to public hearing um already we would have the the town attorney review those
in one pass and then um and before they come to a hearing with us so that those issues were settled before it goes to a hearing yeah it makes a whole lot of sense to not not pay a whole lot of money that for things that we're going to be
changing as we move along Jason what is the what was the impetus behind talking about charging fees I mean we currently don't charge fees so what was the good question can I answer
that yeah I don't know where it came from it was in the document forever um when we started to look at it I don't know who put it in there it doesn't really matter but it's not something that the subcommittee put in there uh uh
since June yeah it was was inserted um the suggestion for fees was inserted quite a while ago um and you know I think it was something that was suggested but never really vetted it was just a comment and
one of the reasons why we created the subcommittee was to vet some of these comments so that we could sort of review them and determine the best um path forward you know we do get a lot certain years we do get a lot of wedding um applications and so that was one reason
could this be something to generate Revenue um and then there was also the situation with the filming of the the movie on Mount pox which was another um major issue that came up that kind of disrupted public use of the property and
so that was another reason why fees had been suggested um but I think again it's it was an idea that needed to be sort of vetted and I think we've been doing that um and trying to figure out the best way to deal with it so do we all think
that these that there should be fees to use the land is that something that everybody on the board feels I I can I can respond to that yeah hang on one sec I think that's what we're what we're discussing right now there Jason I
frankly if it's going to uh yeah I don't I don't see a whole lot of uh reason for it but Alex please yeah my hand keeps coming down when after I put it up I don't know why anyways Jason there was a lively
discussion around fees not just liability but so I want to come back to that but first there's never been a discussion that I know of about what the town covers for liability and would it be sufficient to protect you uh we've
never been told that there's never been a discussion I brought it up to Dave I had write to him three times to even get an acknowledgement and a reply so um and I know he's been asked uh that same question Cinda Jones
brought it up I think in terms when Trails go across her property if she's liable and so it's it's an active question uh with regard to discussion um the discussion has
been um all around um where does the money go what account does it go to Dave told us it goes to the general fund we asked Can there go to a a a special fund where the money comes back for conservation land they have a gift fund
so there's a whole question about the utility of the and the use of the of the money as far as film making is concerned they would be asked if we had that again they would be asked for
a um uh what's the word um um a a chunk of money to be put down which they would forfeit if they didn't comply with the
terms of the permit and um some people suggested that we needed the money in Cas there's cleanup require after an event um it got banded about it was it
was it was not it it was not taken lightly my personal feeling is I thought we could do away with a lot of issues if we did not charge and um the commit the subcommittee didn't answer that question
and so it comes to you so we have uh we have have several options right we have uh the uh a deposit like what uh you like what Alex was just mentioning is that what you
were referring referring to Alex deposit yeah deposit uh I've forgotten exactly what word is in the is in the rule okay call it a deposit where we have a deposit and we have
um uh straight fees and we've got uh uh requested donations is there something else that I'm missing so the choice of the the first
choice is should we charge a fee or just let people use the land for free and um if you charge then somebody's got to handle the money somebody's you know there's cost to that
um somebody suggested that we cover administrative costs but the full administrative costs um are high they're not $10 or $50 it's much more than somebody's salary so it's to
me I go back to Jason's original question why are we charging a fee why was it suggested and I don't want to lead the witness but personally I I I think it creates more headaches than than it resolves
Alex I agree with you um what about the rest of us Rachel Bruce and Jason uh I think Jason asked the question I'm not sure he gave an opinion Bruce well I'm in favor of having a
deposit so that we can recoup costs if they don't behave themselves but I the value of the fees and the the donations and stuff like that does seem kind of not pointless but it just causes more
trouble than it fixes thanks Bruce we got a deposit on one hand and and fee or no fee on the other hand Rachel yeah I'm in favor of public spaces being free to members of the public um but I do I could see the
argument if it became an issue of needing to re have a deposit if if people are not being responsible I don't know if there's another mechanism after the fact to recoup that would be like tickets and stuff or fines or whatever that's always hard to
do yeah Jason yeah I would be more in favor of a deposit I I do lean more towards fines just because if we're saying that the like a fee would be something of a headache and not worth
the administrative costs than a deposit also like it then it's like double the cost and you don't even actually get to keep the money right so like somebody has to collect it and then somebody's got to give it back somebody's got to go out there perform some sort of inspection to make sure they can get it
back right I I'd be more in favor of like you fill out the land use application and it says on there you know if you damage or something like this you're going to be responsible for some sort of fine to recoup those costs of the queen
uph and then that you know it's the person who fills out the application that's responsible for that as opposed to you know having to give back and then I agree you know I agree with Rachel I think everybody here pays taxes and the
taxes go towards this land and everything and I think it should remain free yeah and in addition to the uh principles of it there's also the administrative issues and frankly once
it's uh once something like that if it were to get to um the conservation or for be put toward conservation it's not going to be much yeah um I would wonder about the mechanism for the deposit and maybe eron's gonna help answer that go
ahead ER yeah so in other towns I've worked for we've um had them write a check to the town of amst and I've just held the check and and not done anything with it just kept it locked in a drawer
during the event and then after the event if everything and again the the the shorty or Bond would only be held in I would say you know if it was a large event like a filming or like you know some sub substantive situation not in
you know a 20 person wedding situation um but that is one solution where there's no real administrative process you just hold the check and then once the event is over you return it to the person um and then if there is a problem then you put it into you know at that point
it would be deposited to deal with whatever the issue is I think that's a little less administratively burdensome than having a fine because in my experience with fines you issue the fine and if somebody doesn't pay it then you're chasing them down and
and then there's really no like sort of legal teeth behind it um it can just be dismissed in in Superior Court so um I don't know I I think that that I I like the idea of the bond or the shorty in a in a situation
where it was like a substantial event um but I think for for a normal event like a wedding or a small um uh you know like a a nature walk or something I don't think that that's necessary thanks Erin um Jason you had
something else yeah um I just wanted to bring up that uh we get land use applications but we also never get land use applications and people still go out and use use the
land for whatever photos weddings right so if we're going to look at charging fees I think we also have to look at like what do we do if somebody doesn't actually fill out a land use application pay the fee and
then still use the land for one an event like this or something you know I mean I've because just went up to mount poock and there's always people up there taking photos and you know family photos and things like that I'm like H I don't
remember seeing any land use applications for this you know come through so it gets a lot of areas get used with Outland use applications so if we're going to charge fees then I also feel like we should be much more on top
of that for people who are not filling out land use application then and paying a fee because it's not fair yeah I I think that we're what I'm seeing is that we're all
mostly uh tending toward no fee I'll raise my hand as being one of those what about you guys all right so I think we're you know and we are missing uh uh Alex I think he disappeared on us
yeah he sent me a message his he his computer froze so he had to restart okay um and then then but but then we have uh so we can uh uh make a vote on that a little later uh once Alex is here but we
also have then the question of uh of a deposit type of thing if it's something simple like uh what aon's mentioning I think it's worth doing that for um events where there could be a a
significant um cleanup type thing and that would be up to us um so I think if it uh were if we were to have something that say says that we may charge uh some or we may require a
deposit for uh certain uses um and leaving it up to the uh Commission on the application uh process I I think that would be uh that would be good Alex we just did a little
quick uh hand pull on um you know uh who might who would be who would favor not having um fees and uh I think uh and we got the four of us uh uh other than you Alex
were favoring no fees and now we're talking about uh whether or not a deposit uh you know we should require deposit for some uh events depending on the application itself and I believe we should keep
something if it's a simple straightforward type thing that Aaron mentioned um that's not burdensome I think a deposit would be a good idea um but uh so that's that's where we are
um here where do we stand on deposits I know Jason you weren't too keen on it [Music] um I would be for a deposit anyone else yeah Jason yeah I'm
fine with it if it doesn't cause if it's just what Aaron mentioned I'm fine with that as long as it doesn't cause an additional administrative burden yeah I agree totally with uh that uh anyone else Bruce no I'm agreeing with you okay
all right shall we uh so let's uh shall we vote then on on that portion of on a deposit and fee or Alex where do you want to take this um a vote would be handy but I
would appreciate if it would come to Erin in comments because there may be other things that people want to comment on in the document but we could decide that issue right now but we're still don't want to bypass the opportunity for the commission to
provide the subcommittee comments on the entire document okay all right so those are yeah so then what you were looking for was comments so that you can incorporate them into uh into the final uh draft is that what it is Alex yeah but if you want to vote on this
particular issue right now fees deposit then it's decided and we know what we do with that subject in the draft and then we'll look at comments on on there may be other things that people feel strongly about yeah all right well
um it doesn't matter to me but I'm going to leave that up to you Alex make your decision um and we'll we'll go with that vote versus no vote on this Erin what would you uh what would you advise here um I would recommend a
vote on um I would recommend a vote to um confirm that the commission is not going to be asking for fees for land use applications and um that the commission on a Case by case basis would consider
deposit based on the size of the event and um and then we can do a motion to that effect and then we'll wait for comment on the remainder of the document yeah just so Commissioners are aware there is a a provision in there that um
a an applicant's prior behavior in compliance will be taken into consideration so there's you'll see the entire document when you read it if Aon thinks we should have a vote then let's do that all right we're looking for a
motion then I'll try to spell it out and and we'll do the best we can with it so I move that the um document not include the use of fees
and that it should on a Case by casee basis the commission can require a deposit and I'm not sure we may need to clean up the language but that's the S as I understand great uh Bruce on a motion anyone on a second a second Alex
on a second Bruce hi Alex hi Rachel hi Jason hi and I'm and I great um so comments are due
on the 21st it's a week for Friday um if you look over the remainder of the document and let us know if you have anything thought it's a short document it's not very long but um there'll be a lot of changes right based on this vote you'll see
stuff in there about how a donation is um is configured so and just for clarity I'm not sure that Bruce's motion deals with
donations so I don't it did not deal with donations so when you comment look at what we required for donations for nonprofit organizations and comment on
that sure and I I'm the one to me the big benefit of not charging a fee is we have limited liability yeah and you know I uh I I think we've uh we've kind of touched on this in the past but
uh for us to actually require a donation is basically charging a fee no it has to be voluntary right so there I see no issues with uh you know having some kind of wording where you know voluntary fees
for use you know on applications would be uh welcome or something like that but anyway we we'll leave that yeah look comments you know there's kind of a crazy way to figure out what the donation would be and it's I think of
what's proposed is 20% of the anticipated take yeah can I can I stop before say we're just not going to do that uh I meaning I don't I don't think that we should do that I it's and so if we don't have a donation fee
or a fee schedule for use a use fee schedule I think it um it simplifies things quite a bit sure does I think I've heard all right so Erin looks kind of glum yeah so uh do we have any other uh
land use updates Alex no that's it I'm sorry it took so long no well thank you for that eron for uh we have three land use applications yes so the first um is a um
something that's actually already taken place this was a um a request um from a a researcher at UMass to do GPR on puffer's Pond um this was a couple weeks ago and the request came in between
meetings when we had such a thick um ice on puffer's pond and they're basically looking at at the ice um and they're not they weren't taking any samples they were just running um GPR on the pond to I think looking at the depth of the ice
um and they've this is something that they've done before so this was this was handled as a as an administrative approval it was a you know them just going out and doing GPR on the ice surface um it was came in between meetings so this would be a good example of those situations where something
comes in between meetings and staff said it would be okay because we didn't think that there was any sort of impact that was associated with the request um so just wanted to share that with the commission that there was a just a verbal approval granted for them to do
that um and then we did get two additional um land use applications and I'm I'm a little so um unfortunately I wasn't able to get guidance from Dave on these and I know that um these are
events that are already lined up um their their collaboration between the um recreation department and the the Hitchcock Center I believe for some nature walks and some um Winterfest related activities so my recommendation
on these is for the commission to approve them subject to Dave ZX review and approval because there was some um questions that Dave had about one of the events and whether it was appropriate to take place on the
conservation land um and he wanted to discuss that with the director or with the organizer of the event um so that would be my recommendation Dave's not here um and I don't really feel
confident telling the commission to just outright approve it without Dave having some say but I know that the events are planned for between now and the next meeting so I don't want to also um prevent the events from happening um
if that makes sense okay um can you just give us a quick rundown on the Wentworth one and then a quick run down on the Plum Springs yeah so the
Wentworth one um I believe they doing a um archery um program and that is the one that I you know really wanted to um talk to to Dave you know have Dave have a little input on I think we needed a
little more information relative to like what exactly the archery um equipment was where it was being set up I think the concern is like if there's archery instruction happening and you know offleash dogs are running through it or you know we just want to
make sure that what they're doing is going to be safe in the location of where they're proposing it um so but we don't have enough information because we haven't had a chance to meet with the applicant yet um to make that determination and there was some suggestion that there might be some
other more appropriate Recreation areas where it could happen um with with less potential user conflicts so those are the details that I'd like to sort of leave open-ended for Dave to kind of work with the applicant to to settle out
um the other are um I believe and and there's we also got another series of so that um The Plum Springs I believe was a walk um just like a nature walk if I'm correctly um we we also got another
series of um nature walk ones which are these little bear walks which are um a winter Fest event these ones are not in your packet because they came in really last minute before the meeting tonight but they're a series of Hitchcock Center
nature walks that are being done in conjunction with the recreation department um and those may happen in between now and the next meeting and be one of those sort of administrative situations where we we're just talking it through with the applicant to um you
know again bathroom accessibility these are some of the questions that come up there's you know groups of kids out there and we just want make sure that there's um you know if there's any little issues that need to be ironed out before they're just given a green light I guess
okay great thanks um Alex you had your hand up yeah I had a question about Wentworth Farm they say they need 13 cars by the way I only saw three land use applications right there was several
additional ones but they didn't make it in the packet because they came in okay so I'll cover that I'll cover that second if I can but I had a question about parking um in one of the events for I forgotten where that was um
they want 12 cars I don't know but on Wentworth Farm there's two places where they can park one in the entrance to Amis woods and the other is um where the jump off bridge is and I is there on
on Stanley Street there's adequate parking yeah there's there's two parking lots there yeah but on the on the other one what is that farm Farm Road or Farm Old Farm Old Farm Road there's there isn't room for 13 or 12 cars yeah I think they'd have to park on
the Stanley Street side and then the other thing I was going to say is in the uh land Us application rule that you're going to review there's a provision that Dave wanted where these things have to come in 30 days prior to
the event right to prevent this what just happened with Aaron right where people you know hander something hours before this meeting and Dave and Aaron had email dialogue about that and she
wanted the provision she wanted the ability to okay some things and Dave said no I I want them to come in 30 days ahead of time to manage staff time and so there is a provision in there that under rare
circumstances um the 30-day thing will be waved but from if once we codify that fee structure I mean that um land use application rule they'll have to come in 30 days
before the event that's a good uh that I'm looking forward to that Alex Bruce oh I was just sort of reiterating what Alex said except just to voice my I'm in in favor of what Aaron proposed to approve these things and let the staff
figure it out but I want to voice my irritation that the recreation department of the Town can't even come to us a few days ahead of time to give our staff uh the time they need to figure things out and Winterfest has
been scheduled for quite a long time so it's not like they didn't know about this stuff my I have voiced my application too yeah and I think a lot of it is just education you know I think a lot of a lot of entities don't realize
that there's a land use application process and so and a lot of towns don't require that a lot of town like many towns don't have this process so in other towns you can just organize a walk and go and there's no restrictions to it
whereas in ammer we ask that people do this and part of the reason for that is because they're so the the conservation lands are so heavily used so it gives us a sense like if we've got three um weddings proposed at at Mount Pollock the same day at the same time we can
kind of let people know hey you might have some conflicts here um so that's kind of the reason why we do it just to keep track of what's going on and how the frequency of use all right Alex yeah two things ones in
just Bruce I missed the meaning of what you said how do you really feel about that second if we allow hunting including archery which means the release of arrows on conservation land and we don't restrict where that
happens uh I think Dave would have a hard time telling somebody they can't have archery on on land use as a land use all right thanks Alex um all right so I think we need to uh
vote on these eron do we vote on them one by one or do we vote on yeah right each one um so one of them's already occurred so there's nothing the the um clu 25-1 you don't have to take any action on that um the the two that were
submitted by the recreation department so clu 252 and clu 253 those are the ones that I would recommend that the commission um approve subject to Dave's review and
approval so moved yeah all right both at the both in one motion is that uh good yeah yep all right so we have a motion I did I mooved what she just said and we're looking for uh a second for a
second Bruce with a motion Jason with a second uh for approval of these uh clu 252 and clu 253 with the condition that uh they uh discuss things with Dave uh subject to
Dave's approval as well uh Jason hi Bruce hi Alex hi Rachel hi and M and I great we move now to uh to the public
hearings um our first uh I I can't see what time it is uh 7:43 all right thank you uh first uh is a notice of intent um tetr on behalf of ASD shooty Mass
solar LLC for the construction of I don't want to keep reading uh reading the rest of it but uh this has been withdrawn is that uh uh yes the the first notice of intent for the notice of intent for shb road
was withdrawn okay so um shall I let me read uh about the uh the hearings before we go too far into this I'm sorry I got a little bit ahead of myself here uh we're going to have some hearings uh the general procedures for
uh fairness uh to all the applicants in these hearings uh are following um the meetings are dedicated uh 20 minutes a piece 5 minutes uh from the staff five
minutes uh as a presentation by the applicants um five minutes for public comment and or two minutes per person and then um five minutes for the uh commission
um any uh materials that are submitted for applications need to be uh submitted by the Wednesday prior to uh the meeting uh and by close a business on that day for that matter
um just be sure that all presenters State clearly their uh your name and address of the project um as well as uh preferred pronouns um same for the public and then and I
think we're uh I think that's about it you you see the rest of the Roberts Rules of Order if we need to um remind folks we'll do that but uh I think we're going to do fine all right so that was the first hearing that we had was
[Music] um withdrawn uh second not notice of intent uh by Gard Consulting on behalf of uh U Drive Amity LLC for the demolition of two existing structures and Associated infrastructure and const construction of
a proposed mixed use development consisting of a building with Associated parking landscaping and storm water improvements at 25 through 35 University Drive and 422 Amity street
map 13B Lots 18 27 28 and 54 so Andre I did add the hearing call um because I realized when I sent the meeting packet that I didn't include that so you don't have to reread the description of the site but if you could just read the hearing call and then I'll
pull in the applicant thank you this hearing is hel is being held as required by the provisions of chapter 131 section 40 of the general laws of the Commonwealth an act relative to the protection of wetlands is as most
recently amended and article 3.31 Wetlands protection under the town of ammer General bylaws thank you and that's um we have two additional hearings that are um going to be opening tonight so I added those for the the other ones as well
I'll remind you when those come up um so I'm just pulling in Tom Barry um I don't know if you guys had a folks showing up tonight no
okay you're stuck with us um so I'll I'll give a quick update and then um go on from there if that's okay Andre yes please okay um so just to give a quick reminder to folks this um
application did come through um a couple months ago and we did a full review of the project back when it was originally submitted we reached the point of of closing the public hearing which we did um we kind of I think covered the bases
in terms of revisions and um mitigation and everything we closed the hearing and then shortly after the hearing was closed the applicant um uh became aware of the need for summer revisions on the on the proposal
so um at that time they basically requested that we not issue the order of conditions and reopen the hearing so that um the revised plan could be incorporated into the original order of conditions the um revised plan came in
I've had a chance to look it over I'm satisfied with the um the storm water um management and just general design um I have an order of conditions which has been drafted I think the last um issues
that we were sort of um ironing out today um were the just the mitigation planning and I did put correspondence in the folder that could shed shed some light on that I'm not going to go into a lot of depth on it but just to say that
um the the mitigation plan that that the applicant put together is pretty substantial so in the original application there was going to be the full mitigation package plus an additional um 21 and change ,000 going
into the inl Fe account with the revisions um there was a reduction in um the uh proposed alteration of buffer zone and also an increase in the proposed mitigation so when I ran the
calculations it basically put us at a point where um I wasn't comfortable recommending in Lu being um contributed to based on the application um I did speak with with both Michelle and Andre about this because um Michelle had
expressed some concern that um you know there some of the mitigation is proposed inside the stormat structures which is being counted towards mitigation and the storm water structures technically could be redeveloped they could um you know
they're going to need to be maintained over the years and so she felt like those numbers shouldn't have been included there and so my suggestion to sort of try to get this get this approved because I think we're at the point where I would recommend that um is
the areas other than storm water so so um excluding the storm water but basically bounding and signing the remainder of the mitigation areas on the site and also incorporating the balance
of wetlands and buffer zone on the site as part of the overall mitigation um and that if we include that as an overall package I would feel very comfortable um recommending that the commission approve that tonight and I did talk to Tom about that and he was
comfortable with that subject to there being some flexibility relative to the type of bounding that's installed so that it's you know not um you know ugly basically we want it to look kind
of nice on the landscape and also that the signage um that there's some flexibility with the signage so that they can basically create something that's again somewhat aesthetically pleasing um facing the development so that's my update and um
happy to answer questions on it thanks sarin so uh so as long as there's some kind of bounding uh on the in the mitigation areas and uh and also just kind of a re reset on
uh what's m what's what we're accepting as mitigation versus uh versus what the prop proposition was initially right and so just to clarify um the order of conditions that I drafted does not include those additional conditions
those were things that we were sort of discussing late uh late this afternoon but I do have language that I've I Incorporated some suggested language in the email that I put in your packets um and it's basically that the mitigate so
like the planting areas with the exception of the storm water would be bounded and signed to basically indicate that it's a mitigation area and not for future disturbance and then we would also do the same thing with the balance of the wetlands and the buffer zone on
the subject Parcels um so that that basically that entire piece is considered mitigation as part of part of this project and then that would be the mitigation package okay thanks um we'll have the uh we'll have
the applicants present here in a minute um if we have questions uh straight to Aaron we can uh we can attend to them Alex I have a question for
Aon um does bounding include not using the mitigation area for snow storage I know bounding means a fence or rocks or curbing or something but is there provision in there that they would not use the mitigation area for snow
storage yeah and remind me Tom um if it's okay Andre can you remind me where the snow storage was on this site were you guys proposing to put on the southern boundary is that proposed in the mitigation area yeah let me if I can
share my screen it's probably simple enough just to show you you en enable that all right let me by the way welcome Barry welcome Tom thanks thanks for having us um and I'll
give a higher level view after but let's answer the direct question first so snow storage here on this southernly side some snow storage here and then some snow storage in this area here you know when
you look at kind of take a step back when you look at the the square footage and the density of plantings in the mitigation area while this might I guess technically you know be in the mitigation area I don't know that it's a significant amount and I think Aaron
your condition the way I read it was and there's no development happening anywhere else and you know we're we're um bounding in the way that we thought of bounding Alex was and Barry and I have to talk about it you know I don't
know that it's a fence it might just be it'll be something aesthetically pleasing in certain areas whether it's like a a 4x4 with some sort of emazing on on top of it um but just something that I mean this is going to be an expensive project a new project it's going to be something
that I think complements uh the design so to answer the question directly yes snow storage in these areas here okay yeah I was not asking what the bounding will look like I was more
interested in that snow storage thanks thank you and Alex Bruce well I'm happy for the the applicant to go ahead with any further presentation and I'll ask my question at
the end thank you Bruce sure so if if it's okay okay I'll just go really high level show you what was show you what is then land on a landscape plan just to kind of tie it all together um what I'll do is I will show
you see if I just show you the desktop how that works so if you can see right now I've got a a plan up which show which should show right in this area here the two buildings I'll zoom in a little bit this is what was proposed if you recall we had this L-shaped
building in the corner and then and then another building in this area um Drive Isle all the way around and there was a certain level of disturbance approximate to the wetlands I'll go to this one first uh
this is an underlay plan if hopefully you're seeing it this shows what the proposed building will look like and if you can see in blue we have what was proposed so that was kind of like iteration one was in blue so you see we were closer to the 30ft buffer for Here
We extended further closer to the 50ft buffer and had more pavement over in this area Etc and then there was a building right here and then what we've gone to is just this single building and we extended it
a little bit uh here and then we essentially replaced the building with just parking and we were able to pull the site in from the south so we weren't disturbing as much of that southernly buffer area and we were able to straighten out because we didn't have
the um turning issues of trying to get vehicles into these two buildings because there was some parking on the first floor so we were able to pull in these compact spaces I'll just scroll down so you can see you know entire site
um we've got this Willow here called out to remain which is I know something we had talked about back on the site visit and then this was we've got uh these compact spaces are still proposed to be a porous pavement so this this gives you
a sense of the site parking tucked behind and then I will go to the landscape plan and what I had done in an email to Aaron and I don't have it here was I I showed side by side above and below what we had
proposed to what is proposed and there is there is a difference in the density the number of plantings that we have and really the the area where those plantings are going to exist and so you know based on the conversations we've we've had with uh Aaron especially as of
later this afternoon you know it's really just to keep this you know uh in its natural state right I mean we have some storm water maintenance to happen in certain areas to make sure that it's operating um functionally but you know
the only moan Turf is really on the Eastern side a little bit here and a little bit around here and then a little bit over here everything else is really like native natural plantings of of grasses and we've got you know I won't
go through them all but you know 28 red Maples nine River Birches uh five eastern uh Red Buds Seven Elms 10 flowering dog Woods nine swamp Oaks 13 s gums 14 lyen we've got you know sweet
Fern sumac Etc it's a it's a if you look at it it's a pretty intensive list we're still having that box cul here that we proposed before we're still doing native rounded Stones here on the bottom nothing of that has changed if anything
we've added more planting in these areas and then we were able to add another internal parking Island that we didn't have before so this is really like you know high level as eron said reducing impact increasing m ation area adding
plants densifying the plants reducing uh the building area um we think frankly it's a better project we did this because of the cost of Steel and this was even before the 25% tariffs went into place so it's uh a little bit fortuitous that we started down this
process before it's going to be a wood building it's going to be passive house uh which has it'll be one of the first in ammer it has a lot of um neat um design techniques to it to
make it um sustainable so pretty exciting project uh happy to answer any questions hoping to get approval this evening we then have planning board next week and then zba uh in a couple of weeks after and we'd like to get started shortly thereafter thanks
Tom um I think uh Bruce if you want to ask your question now you you can my question is for Aaron um for the um orders of condition the long many faceted aspect of the
orders of condition are there any points in this that are different than the the orders of conditions from the first round yes so the first round we never even got to the point of really drafting
ERS of conditions Tom and I had had some back and forth about special conditions so I was moving toward drafting one um and what I did this time around was incorporate all of the conditions that Tom and I had originally discussed but I
also Incorporated some additional um conditions as well so it's it's a pretty comprehensive order it certainly is reading through it is if every project had to do even half of these things it would be wonderful and this is from my
point of view without I mean Jason and others can comment more on the storm water Parts but it felt like this is very comprehensive thank you thanks did we have um any members of the
public were looking to uh speak on this I I don't have access to since I uh had an issue with um getting in I can't see who's in the uh yeah I'm not seeing anyone raise their hand but if if a hand goes up I'll
let you know right away okay all right so rest of the Commissioners feel free if you have any questions I mean what I'm seeing is uh that the area um the affected area was reduced there's
more mitigation than there was uh before um and uh you're looking to B uh bound the uh the mitigation areas so I think that's pretty good I see a question uh from Alex go ahead Alex yeah this is
there sort of tangential but still connected to what we do for a living here um either Tom or Barry will there be any uh outdoor common area for people to use through the chair uh yeah let me I'll
I'll pull up this plan um as big of a site it is it's a little bit of a tighter site uh we will have in this doesn't have it totally updated um I can probably why don't I should stop sharing
I'll actually show the the most recent site plan the reason I asked is because of I was just curious if they might set up chairs in the mitigation area and picnic tables on their own and yeah it's a great it's a great
question um let me get the site plan up so you can see all right I'll show you here he's giving us his best blank ster hasn't moved it's actually a cardboard cutout of Barry uh
no so so here you know these couple of areas we've got benches uh we've got we're going to have some benches some programming over here um you know that's this is going to all grow up you know this it's the the type of
vegetation that's going to be there we're we're not going to maintain it um it is going to be natural right so it's I don't think it is conducive to having people set up any sort of chairs in there because of what is going
to be growing like in in those areas and know here that there's going to be a topographical difference because of of the basins that are being created in this area this area same thing there's quite a topographical uh difference between the upper and then the lower piece um if
people want to sit light right along the road I suppose they can but you know the the idea is to program these spaces and then there's going to be some really great internal interior um common amenity spaces fitness center like a cafe Lounge indoor
trash room indoor Bike Room uh really trying to utilize the area um pvta bus stop right here to allow folks to get on the bus and go other places so Tom you might mention that we do have
outside decks on these for people to get outside um both in common and some directly connected to their unit yeah that's a that's a great Point um let me if you'll
I always like the opportunity to show these off because I think they're horrific let me if you'll indulge me for a moment I will so here you should be able to see
what the proposed building is going to look like and so in this area here you've got your seating outdoor seating the back of that uh curved wall is going to have seating as well you can see some of the planting
areas um some of these will have like this one has an ex some exterior space top of uh some of these also have exterior spaces these are just other renderings of what you're going to see once the project is built with right so here's a good example of what that
vegetation is going to look like um same thing seating area out towards the front the new roundabout seating area and roundabout that back area with the seating and then this is what an interior unit's going to look like and
we've got floor plans that show essentially when we get to the top floor you'll see that there are outdoor spaces for some of the units outdoor spaces here outdoor spaces outdoor spaces we we avoided putting outdoor spaces at the four
bedrooms just assuming that they may be students um we we uh while we trust them I I don't think we wanted to give them too much outside space so that's like you know just to get into what are people going to have when they're here
that's a little bit of a um thank you view yeah and if I could I have a question for ber and or Tom um and it's not it's not as close to what we do but
at one point you said that your biggest limitation was parking and um I noticed there's a lot of parking maybe there's the same number of spaces there was before but um when you have
reduced your or changed your building do you have the same number of units no so we went from um 855 units 250 beds and I want to say 183 parking
spaces to 78 units 225 beds and 160 parking spaces so we've reduced the the number of parking spaces we have about the same ratio as we did before the way the parking will likely work is you know there's about 12,000 square feet of
commercial space on the first floor and so I think what we do is we dedicate one space per unit of residential for the studios ones and twos and then two spaces for the threes and fours that eats up 120 spaces we have about 40 spaces left for the commercial use
commercial we use those during the day you know 8 AM to 5:00 P PM 5:00 p.m to 8 am. those will open up for residential so it's like this is as we I think we found that balance of um a suitable amount of parking
suitable buildings unit Styles bedrooms Etc so like we really tried to strike that balance given the I mean pbta bus stop right there Bike Room bike storage Etc so that parking is all on the mitigation
side the building's on the street side and the parking is going to have a lot of runoff so you and Aaron have um she said she's comfortable with the storm water drainage but could you just quickly for
me perhaps others just go talk to us about where the runoff from the parking lot goes your I'll bring up the grading and drainage plan so you see it here and it it it really is you know proprietary um it's catch basins and
it's uh hydrodynamic separator before there's any discharge into any of these storm water features here right so you've got you can see the piping like so rooftop clean uh comes from
here uh manhole does a 90 discharges and to this Basin so that's all clean same thing from this side from this part of the roof drains into this uh I'll call it just a basin it's a bio retention
area and then you've got the um piping system from the parking lot so you've got catch basins in uh here here I want to say I thought maybe there's another one that's a drainage
manhole here and then we've got some perfor pipe here for for um a bior retention area and then we've got a uh discharge into this storm water basin
we've got another catch Basin from these pervious and then they ultimately make their way into this um storm water basin here so everything's collected treated and then ultimately discharged yeah so I'm going to rely on
Aaron and Jason on this so if we get a three hour 3inch rainstorm uh we'll be okay I assume yeah I think we we model up to the 100e storm to make sure that that happens every four years
now so the fouryear storm I'm done thank you thanks Alex and Tom Aon I just wanted to Iggy back on Alex's comment to say I did check the the TSS worksheets
and um I would say everything met or exceeded the the current storm water standard with the exception of um there was one that was like 88% TSS um removal so it was like off by 2% but for a
Redevelopment site um I am pretty happy with with the overall design um I think every single suggestion that I made was incorporated so um I'm
I'm happy with the the outcome of the storm water management on it thank you eron um if I don't if we don't have any other questions uh I think we would be ready
for a motion is that uh yeah I Andre could I just ask for some clarification on where we are um huh yeah absolutely go ahead okay so I understand that Aaron drafted some conditions there was conversations
between Aaron and Tom this afternoon and some new conditions were drafted that we haven't I don't think had a chance to look at but they're in a hurry to um move this along with tariffs coming on steel and I I I can't believe there
isn't a place in the United States where you can't buy steel but um anyways um so are we being asked to approve this even though we haven't had a chance to look at all the conditions and just uh leave
it to staff to work it out so the order of conditions is drafted in the folder um it's I would say pretty comprehensive um there were two additional conditions which were added today based on um
conversations that I had with the applicant and and with Michelle and with Andre which were the incor Corporation of um I'm just grabbing those um and I did also post the conditions in the
meeting packets um that we Post online so that members of the public could view that that document as well um but I'm happy to pull it up if we want to take a quick look at it but the additional conditions that were discussed today which were sort of the last minute additions were
um that um all areas of mitigation planting associated with the order of conditions except for storm water features are bounded and signed and that there's an ongoing condition in the order of conditions that these designated mitigation areas will not be altered in perpetuity and shall be
maintained in their natural condition in perpetuity and then the second piece of that was um in the approved mitigation plan associated with the approval the balance of the wetlands and buffer zones on the parcel subject to this application will be included in the
overall mitigation package and that those areas will also be signs signed and bounded as part of the order of conditions um so that no future alteration occurs in those areas in perpetuity so those were in addition to the order that I had already previously
drafted thank you that's big any other questions uh no I'm ready to proceed okay uh we need a motion to close the public here in an order of conditions for 25 through
35 University Drive and 422 am Med Street D number 08907 44 approval includes a standard boiler plate conditions under the both the mass Wetland protection act and Wetland
protection town of ammer General bylaws article 3.31 and regulations as well as special conditions that would be the motion so move you I don't think you can pose a motion as
chair but so move so who's who's making the motion looking for someone to make it I'll move to close the public hearing and issue in order of conditions for 25 through 35 University Drive and 422
Amity Street D number 08907 44 approval includes the standard Boyer play conditions under both the mass Wetlands protection act and wetlands protection town of ammer General bylaws article 3.31 and
regulations as well as special conditions Second Jason Alex with a second I'm sorry some thank you I got it okay Alex second
got it hi hi Jason Hi Rachel Bruce hi and I'm an i and uh yeah I was not making that
motion I was reading it out so that you guys wouldn't have all right thank you very much and Tom thank you very much have a good night thank you you too Aon great job as always thanks you all for your time I'm sorry we don't have you up for
the for another one Tom we'll be back bye-bye all right um nice to see you Barry third hearing um is a amended uh notice of intent uh wda Design Group uh
uh do we need to uh make a call for for this yes yep I'll pull that up for you please Aon all right this hearing is being held as required by the provisions of CH chapter 131 section 40 of the general laws of the Commonwealth an act relative to the
protection of wetlands as mostly recently amended in article 3.31 Wetland protection under the town of amoris General bylaws um this is an amended notice of intent uh
for by wda Design Group Inc on behalf of Monie Road solar LLC for the maintenance of an existing wooden corduroy Bridge Crossing and the installation of a beaver deceiver device between two existing ponds at 285 Sunderland Road
map 2C lot three um eron would you like to uh introduce us sure um so just to give a little bit of background there was um a previous
order of conditions where there was a solar um facility which was installed um between monteu Road and Sunderland Road uh that was prior to me working for the town um then um I would say 2019 to 2020
um approximately we had um actually maybe it was issued in 2022 there was an application for um some additional uh battery um related infrastructure on the site and um some underground directional drilling for conduit which um the
commission previously approved um this site has had some issues with storm water um on the road and so I think this project is addressing that as well as um the the um existing Timber mats which go
over the between the two ponds is deteriorated and um there's been ongoing issues with beavers on the site um and so I think this application is trying to sort of address all of the outstanding issues in one shot um I have
an order of conditions drafted I've it's posted in the meeting packet it's posted online um I've reviewed it with the applicant the applicant gave some feedback which I have no problem with the applicant's edits which are also in your folder um and um I think this is a
relatively straightforward application um and I'm ready to move forward on this tonight if the commission is and I will bring Brian in um so that he can present as well let's just say where the fish and Wilding service wanted to put their
headquarters I don't know why Ryan I'm having trouble promoting you um it's kind of weird I'm gonna just click allow to talk and see if that oh there he goes okay can I get the last
name and address well welcome Brian can you hear us Brian um if you have a uh a way to hit the button on the bottom left of your screen for a video now you just uh muted
yourself if you can hit that uh audio back on again you'll unmute and then maybe we can hear you oh I could see you bottom bottom left there's a little uh uh a little there you go now you're
unmuted yep yeah I hit it a couple times and think's not not happy tonight oh all right well thanks for uh joining us Brian if you could state your name last name and who you work for please Brian wman from wda Design Group in Westboro
Massachusetts we're here on behalf of uh monu Road solar um for the as Aaron outline uh and correctly so Aaron that that was uh 22 when they did the Directional
Boring and the additional uh reclosers and the pad um and so that that order is valid through uh April 26 it would be but um of this year but I think under the permit extension act it's got another two years but um they would like
to form the uh maintenance on the timber mats which although we had our site work Monday it's kind of hard to see how beat up they are because of the snow and ice cover um uh repair some of the uh gravel
that's just you know over time has been worn uh with a more stable uh Crush Stone and as you outlined there's been an ongoing Beaver issue uh they had a license Trapper um go out and remove four to
five beavers uh during the trapping season this November December I guess it was and um but we'd like to during the course of repairing the portion of gravel drive and removing the Timbers would be to put
in a beaver deceiver pipe with a cage on the Northerly side and run that flex pipe connecting it down to uh the southern Pond and and keep the water levels at the record elevation which was uh I like
as Andre and I discussed the other uh Monday uh elevation 160 for the norly pond and the lower pond at 157 um and then that will allow for the not to have the over
topping and the extra wear and tear on the that portion of gravel drive as well as the timber mats um and then hopefully not have to worry about uh beaver intrud Rion or control with the cage and the
smge pipe it'll maintain that water level uh and it'll hopefully be the last time we have to do this kind of repair um except for maybe some just general ongoing maintenance that's typical for for any site like this but
um there's not a lot of vehicle traffic the farmer does use this pathway uh a couple times a year and then um the Solar Company uh uses it for if there's an emergency access that's
required um and it appears they are us utilizing a a company that's doing the uh the the Sheep Mo so they bring the sheep in and then they they go in and graze around the panels so um as Aaron said it's it's
we'd be doing new road control barriers along each side it'd be a fairly quick Pro process to get all this done it'll be done in a dryer period uh Aaron had ask for kind of a scope
on uh if we need to do a uh dewatering so we submitted uh what they would do for that which would be typically a uh a bucket with holes drilled in it you put a submersible pump in that put that in the North Pond so it's not sucking up sediment or
generating a lot of sediment pump that through a fire hose to a silt bag and and then we would outl it through the grass area on the side and let that trickle down to the pond so you have a
controlled Outlet that's filtered and uh can be controlled um we're hoping we don't need that it's fairly shallow where they need to reach in or someone will go waiters or a John vat to put the cage in and
then uh they would cut remove the old Timbers lay in the new pipe the new larger Stone and then back their way out so it's fairly fairly well regulated in
an area that's already you know historically been maintained so um that's kind of the general scope and I'll I'll turn it over to you guys if you'd like thank you Brian um thank you just if you can uh address uh or or clar
ify the uh water bar type structures that you're going to be putting up top as well thank you Andre thank you um yes Aaron I can't call the plans up my computer is not sharing right now um I don't know if you have it but y uh to
the north side um as you come in the gravel drive uh there's a gated entry into the solar farm area and within the uh Gravel Drive historically we' had
some water bars to direct run off yeah I don't know if you can zoom in there but um my gosh yeah that's Central touchy yeah at least yours is functioning
um so the water bars are cut into the that looks gravel drive it's a very hard pack Gravel drive where Aaron is outlining right there um it's outside the buffer zone but it does direct storm water flows in the past when the wear
bars have gotten the water bars have gotten filled with sediment uh it's allowed some of the water to flow down the pathway so this is to we've added additional ones this would direct the
water from going down the path into the adjacent um Stone Channel which is now it's almost hard to see the stone because there's some vegetation so it's it's actually a good filtering
mechanism and the water bottles will take out velocity and putting them at those 50 foot intervals you know it breaks that that flow area into a much smaller amounts and as well as takes out the the velocity and the chancef for for
additional erosion um and then we put it into that norly channel and it goes down into the existing sediment Basin um so those that's the other scope that uh Andre pointed out so
um thanks Brian thank you for reminding me yeah you bet um how about uh the public are you are we seeing anyone uh any questions from the public um before we go back to the commissioners there's no hands raised right now yeah
okay Commissioners do you have any uh questions just as a little bit of a uh what I saw what I saw and Rachel was there too um the uh ties look uh pretty beat up which is kind of a surprise for the
amount of time they've been there um but uh they're uh they look to be 8 by eights um and then uh the gravel does seem to need a little
little retouch there as well um yeah that's the extent of my expertise and what I saw there I don't know if Rachel you can if you have anything else to add there go ahead Rachel yeah no it this
all makes sense I guess the only questions I had were um of the applicant just to describe a little bit more about um the interaction with the beavers and what time of year those actions took place and and what that procedure will look like going forward with the
commission I'm sorry Rachel were you asking when when the beaver trapping occurred yeah yeah yeah um it was during the trapping season this November and December is what I was was under the uh I might even have it in
face yes he's uh started the beginning of November um and the the permitted trapping season is November 1 2024 through April 15 of 2025 um and at the time of the writing
of the uh application he had trapped four I think he might have gotten one more in December but um there were at least four removed during the permitted trapping season uh the beaver Trapper was Tom grael a beaver specialist
LLC um and he would also be the person constructing the uh the steel cage that goes around the uh the bdge [Music] theer thanks Ryan anyone else I found it to be fairly
straightforward what I saw so if we don't have any other any further questions uh we are looking for a motion and I won't I'll just let Aaron put it up and whoever wants I see a question from Bruce I I'll I'll move it
um I move to close the public hearing and issue an amended order of conditions for 285 Sunderland Road 89- 0698 approval includes all the standard Bo boiler plate in special conditions under the Massachusetts Wetlands
protection act and wetlands protection town of Amis General bylaws article 3.31 and regulations from the original order of conditions plus additional special conditions under both the Massachusetts Wetlands protection act and the Wetland protection town of Amber General bylaws
article 3.31 and regulations second so we got Bruce uh with a motion and Alex with a second uh Alex hi r hi
Rachel hi Jason Hi and I'm an I so you're looks like you're all set Brian thank you very much thank you thank you all very much good night good night good night next we have the fourth hearing of
the night um shall I uh read the intro or the call um we don't need the call for the um Wendell Wetland Services all right this is W Wendell Wetland services on behalf of fam tow for the
construction of a single family home um driveway and septic system within the buffer zone uh to bordering vegetated Wetlands at old monteu road map 2A Lot 36 driveway and uh yeah Lot
36 um do uh Erin do you want to um yeah um so the applicant requested a continuance on this um I did ask some questions about the plan which um I think there's some plan revisions that are currently
underway mostly um it was unclear to me there was only one set of um Contours on the plan and so I was asking are these existing or proposed um trying to get a sense of whether there's a change in grades going on with the proposed work
and also the foundation was right up against the limit of work line on this one and so I asked them to clarify because typically you need 10 to 15 feet around a foundation for grading purposes um so they're working on some revisions to adjust the plan accordingly and also
right now with the with the snow cover we we really can't verify the Wetland delineation so this will be continued um if the commission um issues the motion to uh February 26th at 7 40 thanks Aaron so we do we have um are
we expecting the uh any further presentation No not tonight um should we check to see if there is any public comment on it if you are in the public and you have any questions on this or have have any comments please raise your
hand going once going twice okay uh we're looking for a motion to continue the public hearing to February 26 2024 at 7:40 p.m. it moves Rachel with a
motion Second Jason with a second Jason hi Rachel Rachel thumbs up and an ey and uh Bruce hi Alex I don't think Alex is there uh I'm an
I uh that's enough for a quarum the four of us thank you Bruce we move now [Music] to oh there are two hearings number four
so to hearing number five sorry about that okay I know you're busy uh do all right let's see um this hearing is being held as required by the provisions of chapter 1 31 section 40 of the general laws of the Commonwealth an act relative
to the protection of wild Wetlands as most recently amended in article 3.31 Wetlands protection under the town of ammer General bylaws we've got s swca here on on behalf of PV squared solar for a proposed solar canopy over an
existing parking lot with the electrical service upgrade and so on um and the uh electrification and mechanical systems in the existing building at 742 Main Street
um so [Music] um Erin did you want to uh begin this one yes um so this applicant um has been in touch with me for several months now um
they it's the um 742 Main Street it's the um uh Jewish um Center on Main Street they have an existing parking area in the rear of the property and they um are proposing to put solar panels and Associated um conduit and
Transformer um as well as utility poll um associated with the project um so I've worked with them to basically you know guide them through the permitting process and um I think this is what I
would describe as as a a a really great project I like to see um solar being put over parking areas so I'm you know I think it's a um really sustainable project they um uh I we met with them on
site definitely had a couple um suggested conditions so I did draft an order which is in your um packets and I'm uh in favor of the commission approving this tonight um I think the the big issues were number one snow storage needs to be re relocated to
another location right now it's being pushed into the Wetland buffer and um uh I suggested that they they put it on the um vegetated buffer to the north that's not directly in the wetlands and then um um let me think oh there was uh the
drip edge so the the panels are being placed basically right along the border of a paved driveway and a dirt uh a paved parking area and a dirt parking area and so um one of the conditions I am suggesting to the commission to add is
to add um some Stone armoring under um the remaining panels um to protect the drip edges from any scour or erosion or sedimentation happening um so that was an additional condition um there was also some so on this one because it's so
simple and the work is expected the duration is so short from start to finish I don't think that there's really any need for like an erosion control monitor to be out there um so what I did was in the order I Incorporated some additional conditions for um at the
kickoff um when I come out to do the erosion control inspection getting a um a timeline for completion and then when the project is completed I would come out and do a a post-work inspection just to um verify that that the site is
stable and then um when when everything is grown um during the growing season I could come out and um approve the erosion controls coming out um once everything is is been stabilization has been fully established so um I kind of
worked those conditions in as well as just some standard boilerplate conditions um associated with the project so it's it's a relatively simple project with a relatively simple order of conditions um and that's that's what I
have if so if it's okay I'll pull in the applicant and I believe it's Matt so I'm going to promote Matt to a panelist if there's anybody else um that oh Meredith got it okay Welcome Matt um and uh welcome
Meredith um when you speak if you don't mind uh starting out by uh stating your name and uh last name and who you work for yep Matt valer PB squared um in regards to 742 Main Street the Jewish community of ammer thanks mat you're welcome thank
you um so I'm I'm happy to just show a couple quick exhibits of the project I think Aaron set it up well um so we're looking at adding a parking canopy over the existing parking lot um it's 110
kilowatts DC can you see my screen okay yes yes yep um so 110 Kow DC um this required um a new electrical service going in oh sorry it's a little wonky um so we um are including a new utility
poll required by eversource on Main Street trenching for underground conduit to a new Transformer location right here and then DC conduits from the parking canopy over to that new Transformer location um and then a little bit of extra conduit work to refeed some
electrical panels on the east side of the building um as Aaron said there's a transition from paved to gravel right along the center line of these two existing uh medians here um the the low
side the drip edge will drip onto the asphalt um but as as we discussed yesterday there's no roof deck under this system as opposed to some systems that have a continuous roof deck so that means we will see dripping between the rows of panels um so I think that's why
Aaron was recommending the you know stabilization underneath that area um and Erin I already reviewed the the snow storage with the client they really have no problem with that um we you know we haven't discuss the gravel area but that
that makes sense to me it seems like a a maintenance thing that the client would have to do at some point in the future anyways um and then I think I can turn it over to Meredith for more um you know Wetland flagging notice of intent filing type stuff Meredith if you have anything
to add do I have to stop or you know what I'll leave my screen share up if that's okay helpful hi everyone Meredith Warstein s swca environmental Consultants um we filed the notice of intent on behalf of PV squared and yeah
Aaron pretty much covered everything I mean it's really a buffer zone only project it's a developed parking lot and we're not changing anything the storm water is all going to be the same going to the same location and so it's really um yeah it's
a win-win project I don't know if folks have questions about Wetlands um we're not asking for the Wetland boundaries to be certified or anything during this this notice for this notice um yeah it's a pretty simple project for
once great thanks Meredith and Matt um it I think one of the uh one of the things that I'm not sure if it was clear or not um from when Aaron was speaking earlier
but uh one of the things that we're uh that we can't do during this is actually confirm the um the the boundaries so that'll be written into um any uh conditions or it'll essentially we're
not we're not going to be confirming them because it's just not the right timing do having a canopy uh with your solar I think is that's an ideal
situation but in terms of the wetlands protection act and the towns Wetlands uh regulations um was if you guys have any other questions it looks like Bruce has one um I don't see Ahad I
was just going to say I I went over to the site and looked at it and what's been described conforms with what I saw um and yes the the snow plowing issue should get addressed and my understanding is it will be um I did
wonder about the enclosed Wetland that where there's driving driveway around a wetland and uh just curious if that uh maintaining that in it's Wetland state is a problem
thanks Bruce Matt or uh or Meredith yeah I mean I can speak to that Matt if you want yeah that's great thank you thank you Mr chair um yeah so it's our understanding that that's actually a storm water basin and we did flag it because it really hasn't been maintained but it
is part of the constructed storm water system on the property um so it's one of those funny things in the conditions that it needs to be
maintained yes so I did incorporate um in the order of conditions uh a condition that the um storm water um system should be maintained per the de best management practice manual um so
yeah I mean I think that's that's another piece of this um I don't know when that Basin or system was constructed and the associated operation maintenance associated with it but I did try to roll that maintenance requirement
in um yeah I mean at this point um I think the the key pieces are functionality of the CTS and functionality of the catch basins and I did take a quick look inside and a couple of them had snow in them so it
was a little difficult to see what was going on but I didn't what I what I have seen at times inspecting catch BAS is like they're full of sediment like up to the top or like really really full they're clear that they've never been maintained these CTS were not looking
like that at all they were um the catch basins looked like a standard catch Basin that wasn't full of sediment so that tells me that um that you know either they've been maintained or they've been functioning in such a way that you know there's not an
accumulation of material in them so that's that's a good thing um and you know beyond that they're not changing the storm water management system or adding impervious surface um in association with the project so it's
a little difficult to um require any adjustments to the storm water management plan so I did just incorporate that condition as sort of a a fail safe thank you thanks any other questions well if uh we don't have any
other questions and the public doesn't uh have anything uh we're looking for a motion to close the public hearing and issue an order of conditions for 742 Main Street D number 089-099-6182 looking
for Bruce with a motion do we have a second I'll second Jason with a second um Jason hi Bruce hi Rachel I just want to confirm so we are noting in the order
of conditions that we are not confirming the delineation correct Okay I uh Alex hi and and I so um thank you Meredith and thank you Matt um it looks
like a wonderful project yeah thank you so much really appreciate your time thanks everyone have a good night thank you and with that we're looking at uh monitoring
reports public comment topics and there are some requests for a certificate of compliance is that correct yes yep um so we did receive this within the last 48 hours there was two requests for certificate of
compliance um this is another similar situation where um an order of conditions was recorded on individual condo units um and so I would say this is what I would describe as an administrative release the order of
conditions is is also recorded on the property parcel itself um which is really what it should be tied to um so there are two condominiums that are being sold within the um uh 664 Main
Street condos and um the applicant is just looking to release those two condos from the order of conditions which I have no problem with us doing tonight as an administrative action okay any
questions we're talking about um moving on the 664 Main Street right yes I make a motion yeah please I move to issue complete certific certificate of
compliance for 664 Main Street condo units 48 and 49 I second all right Alex with a motion and Rachel with a second uh Rachel hi Alex
hi Bruce hi Jason Hi and I'm an I so certificates of compliance will be issued uh anything on monitoring reports
or uh anything else anyone from the public with hands up nope Alex I have a question on one of the monitoring reports I think it's um I assume we're not going to go through this individually but I did have a
question I think it's um Hickory Ridge and there's a in the in the report it says that the gate is not been repaired and if it functions and closes securely will exclude Turtles and I
didn't quite understand that can you clarify eron what is meant by that um that's a good a good question Alex um so Hickory Ridge has um a turtle exclusion barrier around the entire
perimeter and um the the gate at the entrance um also you know it had it's like a um a metal metal um bar essentially that goes along the base of the of the
driveway and so um I know that it's in need of repair it got hit by a truck um and got damaged and so it is in need of repair I know that it can shut and lock um so it probably hasn't been repaired yet but um it should be repaired prior to the start
of the turtle season um so that's definitely something and um you know I've it's been an ongoing challenge with many applicants to get them to respond to these monitoring reports so it is a a
constant housekeeping item in my job every time I get these reports to read them to follow up the applicant have you done this you know and then I get a second report a week later or two weeks later it hasn't been done yet and then I've got to follow up with them again so these are examples of those and I'll
I'll follow up on the gate um that was one that I missed so the report does say that it's been pointed out before okay I think he does say still not fixed okay I will um and then highlight that um I I when I read it I realized it's not
Turtle season but it will be coming up yeah couple months yep and um should should should should should be fixed thank you
yep great Bruce um before we adjourn I want to thank Jenny cik who for her consistent attention to our work and she's in the public watching us and thinking carefully I would assume about
what we're doing every time we meet and I appreciate that sounds well with that if there are no other comments questions or anything um we would look to for a motion to adjourn
I I have a question before we adjourn or maybe everybody will go once we adjourn but I have a question uh about our next meeting I wasn't quite sure um when the guest speaker will speak I I assume it's
in the beginning and how long I thought a half an hour is mentioned is that right yes so that would follow director's report L 's report and prior to any hearings
correct uh correct yes okay that's all I wanted to know okay do we have a motion I'm move we adjourn I second Rachel with a second Rachel hi Bruce hi Jason Hi Alex
I I'm so glad Rachel didn't have have to abstain hey thanks folks thank you good couple of weeks and we'll see you on the right good night night good night night Rachel