Uh good afternoon everyone. Today is uh January 16th and this is a meeting of the elementary school building committee. Seeing that we have a quorum, I I'm calling the meeting to order at whatever time it is 12:33
and I will make sure all the committee members can hear and we can hear them. And for those of who just joined, we're also it's still time to say happy new year. So I'm also saying happy new year to everyone. And Cassen's got the happy
new year graphics up for us. So uh Jonathan >> here, >> should we are we recording? >> Yeah, I I hit record. Paul, it should have said recording. >> I'm sorry. Sorry to interrupt. >> Is it? >> No. I I am so well trained by Angela. I
must say it's like don't start until you do this. So, uh, so Jonathan is here, Simone >> here, >> Paul >> present, >> Bruce >> here, >> Deb, >> happy new year,
>> and Alicia >> here. I'm and as um I as always these days I'm turning the meeting over to Kashena um for construction update and then we have
the uh invoices then public comment and I ah Mike welcome >> and just can and you thank for joining us and can you just let us know whether you can hear us easily? >> I can. Yeah. >> Okay. Thank you. So we are definitely at
a quorum. So, I'm turning the meeting over and just um when we get to we don't have scheduling on, but everyone should have holds on their calendar at this point for all the months for the rest of the year. Connor sent them out and I will type that out and put it in a
packet in case any or I'll have Accenture next meeting which is the 13th of February right now. I'm pretty sure I'm in a train on a train so I can join but I need someone else to chair. And Jonathan, you've been willing to chair
in the past. So I don't know whether you'd be willing to chair because it >> I'd be willing to chair. Great. >> Yes. >> So that's >> that was that was the February that's >> it's the February 13th and it's that day because the school vacation is the next week. Um and
>> so we are good to go and as I said I I'll get all those dates out. They should be in your calendars, but just so to the extent the public is looking at when we're meeting, they're all set up. Cassenya, you're you and it's your meeting at this point. >> Great. Thank you so much. So, we're
going to start. Let me just put the agenda up briefly. Um, present. >> I don't have the ability to share yet. And you might need to request the same thing. Thank you.
I just allowed you to. >> Thank you, ma'am. All right. So, our agenda today is as follows. Um, one, call to order. Done. Two is a variety of updates on the construction progress, on the furniture,
fixtures, and equipment procurement, on the playground surfacing uh procurement. Um, next, we'll move to invoice review and approval. um items not anticipated within 48 hours in advance public comment and we'll adjourn. So fairly
straightforward today. Um I'm going to take this down um and let Connor share and I'll uh turn it over to Connor and Tim to walk through the construction update. And I'll just say that the construction is progressing well um at a
very rapid clip. Um, we you all got to see some finished well, those of you who were able to come to the last building tour were able to see some building spaces that were just about finished, paint on the walls and all um and then
some other spaces that were um much earlier in the process. Right? So now as we are moving for construction, more and more spaces are being further finished out and converted to something that looks like a space you'd want to live in
uh or be in school in. So go ahead Connor and Tim. Thank you. >> Just before we go into we changed the format a little bit this month. So the first two slides are going to be sidebyside comparison of last month versus this month. uh just so we know what we're looking at and then the rest
of the way it'll just be this month pictures. So um but yeah, start scrolling through. Tim, if you wanna >> Oh my god. >> Um we're looking at the curtain wall at the media center above the cafeteria. You can see that the curtain wall is all
in place there. And the last remaining section of curtain wall in the gym as of Tuesday was on site and ready to be installed. So by the time we have the next update other than the doors uh the building should be completely enclosed uh which is a milestone for sure uh and
very exciting. Um it's really only thing left to be done on the facades now is the metal panel which will go over the white areas that you see here which is the vapor barrier behind the metal panel and then there's various trim and sealant and stuff like that but the
exterior mostly done. Uh the next slide is the gym. Uh so they have completed uh the sheathing interior gypsson behind the masonry that will go up to the essentially the yellow uh in this image and then there will be acoustic panels below but uh you can see that that's is
also progressing uh rapidly. Here's a photo of the lobby looking toward the main entrance. Uh the administration would be on the left and the platform for the cafeteria on your right. Um, as of Tuesday, a lot of this was framed and they are beginning to put
board up. So, um, the next time there's a walk through the building, um, from the front door all the way through the building, it will, uh, all the spaces will be defined, um, >> and you'll be able to see um, they are painting on the second
floor now and putting the grid in. So, this is a second floor classroom. the mill work uh the sinks and stuff like that is not installed obviously but uh they are progressing nicely through the building here on the third floor classroom where they started to cut the tile and then
the final step in this classroom for the ceiling after they do the necessary above ceiling inspections will be to white out the rest of the ceiling so every day looks a little bit more complete tile is going in on the third floor and they're starting on the second floor. These are the multifixure bathrooms in
between the classrooms. But uh so far the application of the tile installation has uh gone very well. Uh really like that sub playground partially installed. Um swings there. Some of the equipment to
the north. The blank space that you're seeing between the camera and the swings is where the main equipment will go. Um, and that, uh, crew is going to be out there next week continuing this work. Uh, here you see some of the foundations for the solar canopies that will be
installed in the parking lot west of the building. So, the footings are in, they have to pour the concrete around these peers, and then the steel structure will be placed on top of those peers. All of the major roof equipment uh as you can see here is in place. Um on the
entrance side of the site uh the framework will have a mechanical screen that will be in front of this equipment. But uh in terms of what has to be left on the roof, these pieces of equipment have to be connected to duck port will eventually get air into the building.
That's >> it for the construction update. So, next door, February 24th, 3:30, same time as last time. Of course, email me uh if you plan on attending. Paul, >> um I'd like to invite our state
legislators and new members especially, but any member of the new count the town council that I know we have it uh capacity, but I think the um I talked with Mindy this morning and she's eager to take a look at it. >> We would be very happy to have them. Um
and if anything doesn't work, uh I know their schedules are very difficult. So if the 24th doesn't work for them, we can um add another date as well. >> Okay, >> which may help multiple people. >> And I'm usually a regular poll and I
won't be able to make that date. So there's at least one extra slot. >> Okay, >> we could also change this date if it helps multiple people. >> Um we have two uh new elementary school committee members. Um,
what is the capacity limit? Because I can give up my spot, too. It'd be great if they could get a >> peak. >> Last time we were able to get up as high as 25 people, I think, and we did okay. >> So, followup would be would it be okay
to invite them? >> Yes, [laughter] certainly. I have I have a couple questions. Um, one is the um sign for the new school. Um, I know that it the
the name has now been voted and so we way back when looked at possible designs for the not just the where it go ah Allison um glad you've joined us. This is a good moment. Well, can can you just indicate
that you can hear us fine? Okay. So, design I remember we looked at a a design for the sign out by the driveway that would tell you where the school the name of the school and we also then looked at the likely location of the
name. So, I just wonder uh the design team will we get a chance to see the sign by the driveway again? And I don't remember whether we decided on the sign by the driveby whether it would say the emmesis Brook Elementary School all of
those words or just Amemesis Brookke. That's my first observation. The other is essential on these. We can start calling the school by its new name if you want to on the slides. So that it's a question on the sign design and the
how much of the name would be shown. So I I can just say that the construction project um includes lighting for the sign, but it doesn't include the sign itself because that was undecided at the time. So um it will be in addition to the project, however, uh
method we choose to do that. And so that being said, the design is whatever needs to be. So um and then there is also signage on the building that in all of the renderings you've seen since the beginning have said for River, which will obviously be changed to Amethyst Brook. So,
>> so, so Tim that you'd come back to us then what what the physical sign the what might look some choices on that. >> Yes, absolutely. We can do that. Um, we started to discuss that in the project meeting last week. Um, and we can set up
a process for that. >> Okay. And and I don't know whether you ever use colors, but amethyst is purple. So, you know, in terms of a background. So, anyway, so that was my question. to add. We'll have to Kathy once the committee decides on a sign, we'll have
to present it to the planning board because we said we said there will be a sign, but we don't have it yet. >> Okay. Uh Allison, and I I think Paul's hand went up. Did it go up and down? Anyway, Allison.
>> Yeah. Um I haven't seen any um renderings or pictures of the playground, and I see that things are being put in. So, um I'm not sure what document I'm missing and I'd love to be able to see that. >> Uh we can provide that. Um I have been
sending you a few things. Um and I can just do it the same way if that works. >> All right. >> I know the kids will love to see what it's supposed to look like. >> You know, and there's there was one meeting, Allison, that had lots of views. So, that's probably the one that Tim would send you. You know, it's from
multiple angles and from up high. So you got a really good sense of everything that was on it. And for anyone who wasn't here when that was designed, Tim, maybe if you send it to me since this was just asked, I'll
just plop it back in the packet, too. Um, >> I I can do that. I'll do that after this meeting. >> Okay. >> Any other comments or questions on the building? >> No. All right. Okay, then the other Deb,
>> sorry, a quick one. Um, just making sure the project is on target because apparently there's a rumor circulating that it won't be ready until the fall. I don't know where the rumor came from, but
>> I first time hearing of it >> until January. you know, it's a small town and people start stuff, but I'm just making sure that everything's they they said the person told me that the rumor was that it won't be ready until
January. I I said the fall, but I misspoke. Thank you. No. And and >> for those of you who uh joined just after just before the meeting, Angela who works with Paul said they're working on a plan for ribbon cutting that would
happen before school starts so it can be a full community. You all come and take a look at the building, you know. So, it's it's definitely on target, but it's also going to be a a larger celebration rather than just, you know, a ribbon cutting is is the current, you know,
working with the superintendent. So, there's that's a discussion the town staff is working on. So, I see both Allison and Paul have their hands up. Alison, >> there have been rumors that this was not going to be on target for ever. So, I
just want you all to know it's not because you're not doing enough to let people know you're on target. It's just I think the incredulous nature of people to think, "Oh, that's not going to open." Um, I I've heard this at every month of the project and I say every time, "Nope, we are meeting our
deadlines." So, just something to be aware of. Oh, >> but it does, you know, if this is persistent, maybe it does make sense for us to put out a statement that we are on budget, on target. I mean, just because if it's a persistent m rumor, we should
proactively address it. >> And if you I think we can work on something like that just to sort of update on the elementary school. We haven't done that for a while. So, I can talk to our communications manager about pulling something like that together in the next couple weeks. >> And I I could potentially draft something, Paul, for the gazette. just
early on we were drafting on what's coming next and just you know even with a picture we've never shown how terrific the playground is and the gazette once featured another school's accessible playground. So anyway, it's a way of making sure people know it.
>> So yeah, maybe maybe on that we should sit down about a sort of communication strategy featuring different parts of the building over time as we get closer to the ribbon cutting. That's a great idea. Deb, it'd be great to loop in the schools because um Oh, yeah. It's always
good to have >> positive uh news go out there through the school portal or whatever venue they need. >> Okay. So, we had two other updates. One was on furniture and one was on
playground. These are just be this is just purely what's the status. So the furniture uh procurement had been out there for pricing has come back. The
pricing news is pretty good. Um there's a process ongoing between the consultants and the town to crosscheck everything cuz it's a lot of vendors for different pieces of furniture and get through awarding purchase orders or
contracts to each. Um, so that's happening now and over the next couple of weeks. Um, we'll report back in the February meeting on the specific outcomes, but it looks good. Um, no, no,
no problematic news to report there. And on the playground surfacing, I'll let Bob speak because he's heading up for effort. >> Certainly. Thank you. Yes, the um playground surfacing, the installation of the Corken playground um is out to
bid right now. Uh bids are due on the 30th of this month. We did have a mandatory pre-bid meeting this last Wednesday. Um I wanted to make certain that anybody that was responsible for installing the core material um on the school site understood what the site
looked like and saw the site in advance of uh submitting a bid on the project. We had three attendees. Uh only one of those attendees has any experience installing the Corken product. Um what
our bid documents do require is that anybody submitting a bid on the project has to demonstrate that experience. They have to provide us references. They also have to provide us a letter from the Corken manufacturer certifying that they are or confirming they're a certified
installer on behalf of Corken. So, you know, we have three potential biders. Um, but at the moment, I only know of one of those three firms that would meet those requirements. Uh, but we should be seeing results on the 30th. >> Great.
Any questions on either of those? I mean, I take them both as good news. It's nice to know there is there are biders. Uh, Mike, I think I saw your hand up, Mike. And you're muted if you're talking. >> Got it. Got it.
>> So, the one bidder with experience, that was the one from Texas. Is that right? >> That is correct. That was the one that we expected. >> Okay. >> Bruce, same question.
>> Okay. Asked and answered. Uh I'm looking I don't see anyone else's hand up. Uh so the next uh piece on the agenda is invoices. >> Right.
>> So before I start going through the invoice presentation, I know Bob had a couple things he wanted to share with the committee. So Bob, I can leave off the presentation. I can take it down. uh whatever you prefer. >> The presentation is fine. Um I asked Connor just to give me a moment or two
um to touch on one subject that you'll see in the upcoming payment request that he'll be presenting to you. Um it's relative to change orders on the project. I want to say to date we've been doing extremely well with change orders on this project. If I strip out
the change orders we had related to the project bidding or contract award delays and strip out the water mane improvements that we added to the project post bid, we'd been looking at less than.1% of the contract value in terms of change
orders. And that's well well below any type of industry standard in terms of what you might expect for uh change orders on a project. Um, I did want to note we're going to see a little bit of a change to that today. Um, we're still well within the industry standard and we're still in great shape relative to
project contingency. Uh, but we there is one item that's come up. Um, it's an item I've been working with the design team on since July. I've talked it through with Paul and talked it with with through with Sean and we're all on board with it right now. And you'll see
that it's represented in the pay request that uh Connor is going to be presenting. little bit of detail and I'll try not to get into the weeds too much, but I'm certain certainly open to any questions that might come up. Um, it the change item relates to the uh canopies and the
canopy foundations for the PV system. Um the issue there is that when the project was designed as as is typical when you're doing a standalone uh PV canopy mounted PV project is you have one individual one firm responsible for
the totality of of that work which is the solar panels the steel canopies the concrete foundations in this case very deep concrete foundations in some cases and very costly concrete foundations due to the uh the the poor our soils that we
have on the site. That was the design approach that was taken by Daniscoco. Uh they worked with a designer to present effectively an overview of what that design would look like, what the steel would look like, what the foundations would look like, but the final design
responsibility remained with the contractor that was going to perform the work and provide those foundations and provide the the the the steel for the canopies. And that's something known as delegated design. And it's done um throughout building projects where you
require a special type of expertise to design certain components of the building so that the project designers don't design every bolt. They don't design every nut on the project. They then rely on a expert in those particular aspects to design those and
certify to those as part of the shop drawing and submitt process. When the project was put out to bid, uh, the totality of the PV system, again, the roof mounted can the roof mounted PV items, the canopy mounted PV items, the
steel, the concrete for the foundations was all the responsibility of a single entity, which is again pretty typical. And that was the responsibility of the electrical contractor. uh because the electrical contractor is typically the contractor that you know is most
involved with the the PV panels and the wiring and those types of things. We had the threat of a bid protest come up during bidding. Uh one of the electrical biders didn't think that was an appropriate strategy. We took a look at it and this is some of the minutiae
of working with Massachusetts public bidding as we learned with the bid protest that we went through and we ultimately decided to change that approach. We shifted the responsibility for the steel canopies and the foundations, the
concrete foundations for the canopies from the electrical contractor who doesn't customarily do that work to the general contractor um who some folks would argue would be in a better position to take on that responsibility. What that meant was uh we then had to
receive shop drawings and submittals through the general contractor for that work. Exactly how big the seal had to be, how thick the steel had to be, how deep the the foundations had to be, how some of these foundations are what are called drilled quesons. They're actually
wide steel tubes 60 in in diameter augured into the ground 20 plus feet into the ground to support the canopies. the uh contractor that was taking or designer that was taking responsibility and ultimately going to have to oversee the construction and put their uh
professional engineering stamp on those documents came back and said that what you showed on the design documents doesn't meet code. Disco worked with CTA's supplier and designer for several months going back
and forth trying to come to an agreement of yes, it does meet code, no, it doesn't meet code, what types of changes might need to be made to to bring what was shown up on the bidding documents up to code. it ultimately they they they
were looking at a potential half million dollar increase in cost just for additional steel without even looking at the additional foundation cost. Ultimately what was decided was that Daniscoco took that design responsibility back and retained a
designer to complete the full structural design of the steel canopy, the full structural design of the foundations to give them more control over that process. give us more control over that process. Um and ultimately as we learned to save some cost. Um when that happened
that designer retained by Daniscoco also agreed that what was shown on the bidding documents actually did not meet code and there was a requirement to beef up the concrete foundations to increase the steel canopy size and thickness and
things like that. We at one point were potentially being faced with a a requested change order value of over $700,000 to do that. Um, Daniscoco working with CTA was able to identify a different foundation
contractor who could come in and do these deep foundations that are done through this auguring process, the queson type foundations that was able to bring the cost of of that additional work down significantly, but it's still an additional cost. Um, we are still
looking at, you'll see that we've that the town has executed a change order for that work of $450,000 and $800, $45,800 to cover the additional steel canopy and concrete foundation work to go beyond
what was shown on the bidding documents. Um, one thing I do want to note here is it's interesting to note if we go back and take a look at the last construction cost estimate that was developed, I think was the 95% construction cost estimate, including this change order
cost, we're still well under a million dollars below what we estimated we would be spending on the PV system. So that sort of tells me that what we presented in the bidding documents may not, you know, really have presented the full story and that we're what we're ultimately paying for today um is more
than we expected, but still well less than what had been estimated for the cost of that work. Uh, and then last one little tidbit which is good news as well and and uh Kathy hasn't heard this yet but uh she and I have talked quite a bit in the past about complying or or
application for the federal tax credits and the federal direct payments under the original IRA program. we were going to have to only apply for credits for one part of the renewable, just the uh
ground source um geothermal portion of the project. One of the good things that ultimately came out of the change in the administration and what you might have referred or heard of as the big beautiful bill is that it actually allows us to separate the PV project
from the geothermal project. So, we can now apply for federal tax credits for both pieces of the project. And even more good news beyond that is that the Mass Green Communities Program has put out a grant that we're in the process of
applying for with applications due in February that is intended to backs stop that federal money that basically says you can apply for state money today with the anticipation of receiving the federal money if something happens along the way and anything can happen along
the way. We know that you know things change. um the town would be able to if we receive that funding to be able to retain the state funding in lie of the federal funding. If the federal funding is received, those funds would either need to be returned to the state or they
possibly could be reallocated to another renewable project on a school site in town. So that's all good news and it will more than defay the cost that I'm talking about of this change order value. But I I did want to put it out there because there may be questions and
it is reflected in the uh payment request that Connor is going to be presented presenting. >> Deb, you're you're muted. >> Sorry. So, that was a whole lot of things I didn't entirely understand.
>> Said a lot. is my interpretation. Then we're definitely going to get the um the IRA money one way or another and we might get more than we anticipated. [sighs] >> Um I would never use the word definitely
in most anything that I say. uh we appear to qualify for federal money for both PV and for geothermal as long as that money exists and there's no guarantee that that money continues to exist with changes that could happen in the future but we we do appear to
qualify for both now and we do appear to qualify for what is a competitive green communities program within the state I believe there's $19 million altogether that can be awarded to communities and they're looking for projects just like this that are basically not only already
teed up but are s effectively under construction to make certain that those monies can be spent on PV and geothermal projects. So um our chances are very good but I'll never say definitely. >> Thank you. You know, Deb, I just want to
when when he said the one change, if there was a kilowatt hour total, if the two were added together, that we would have had to have apprenticeship programs in to get the full credits by doing PV separate from the ground source. We what
Bob said, we can apply them for each of them because we were going to the town. The initial thought is we would just apply for geothermal because it was the big ticket item. So we can be and both of those um are still
FY all of calendar year 2026 is included. So it just has to be finished during that year. Geothermal continues to later but PV is going to go away under this big beautiful bill but we'll time timing wise it works.
Paul. >> Yeah, I just want to reinforce what uh Bob said about uh this is we're optimistic but there's no guarantees and also with the federal whatever's happening at the federal level and our status as a sanctuary community is also always um I don't think that should
apply but you never I can't I don't we can't I do not predict anything with the federal government at this point in time. >> Thank you. So, Connor, back to you with our invoices. >> All right, you guys can still see my screen.
>> Yes. >> Perfect. And as always, I can't see you guys, so if you have any questions, you can just shout out at any time um or raise your hand and Kathy can call on you. So starting off at the top as we always do with our road map ahead. Green is our
previous invoice, black current invoice package, yellow unbuild portion of contracts, and our white is our uncommitted uh which currently sits around $9 million still uncommitted. The current invoice package is 2.5% of the project
budget overall, $5,175,20. It's 58% invoice of the total budget. 42% of the total budget budget still uh not yet invoiced. Scrolling down to the cash flow, yellow is where we are in time. Green is
previous invoice packages and blue our remaining projections and contingency sitting over here on the right. last month it was down here and I said there was a graphical error. You can see it was indeed a graphical error. Uh
something wasn't distributing properly. So back up where it should be. That's good to see. Scrolling down to the invoice package summary. I can zoom back in if we need to.
It's too much. This month we have five invoices. One from Esenture Answer, two from Deniscoco, one from CTA, one from Alli Testing. The one for Answer this month is 58,697.50, 2% of our contract overall, bringing us
up to 57% complete. There's two from Daniscoco this month. The first is that standard 65,000 for Denisco's construction services. And the second is a subconsultant invoice that we see a lot for geothermal consulting. $1,760.
It's 1% of their contract overall. Bring them up to 83% complete. CTA's invoice this month continuing around that uh $5 million mark. 5 million48,12682 7% of their contract overall bring them
up to 62% complete. And for Ally testing, just one invoice this month for $1,936. Scrolling down to the backup cover page for the $58,697.50 for the answer invoice. and scrolling through the backup.
Moving on down to Disco's first invoice for the 65,000 and their subconsultant invoice cover page and the backup for that CTA's requisition for the $5,48,12682 and the summary page for that
we're completed this period in column E store materials column F it's track 5% retainage it's total retainage over here on the And that gets you your 5 million and change for this month.
And then finally, the last invoice here for Alli testing for the $1,936. So, as always, we pre-reviewed these invoices and recommend them for your approval. That's it for the invoice presentation
this month. happy to take >> one more note before we move on. Um Connor, would you mind jumping to the front p to the first page again? Just a better graphic than the last page. Um so a another bit of progress that we've
made this month is that we were able to bring aboard the last uh testing partner that we need on the project which is going to be the envelope air tightness testing company. Um you will in the
future see start seeing some invoices. So I just wanted to preview who they are. Uh they're called BDH um also known as Salis O'Brien. I think there was a a purchase or a merger there and they are just now getting onboarded and coming up
with um the testing strategy that we will use uh come next summer and maybe a little in advance of that as well. So that just wanted to add that. So they are now part of the yellow portion of committed contracts. Um that's all
Connor that's thank you for the presentation. You can take it down. >> I move to approve the invoices as presented. >> Second. >> And I will now put that to a vote. Um Kathy is a yes. Jonathan
>> yes. >> Simone >> yes. Paul, >> yes. >> Bruce, >> yes. >> Allison, >> yes. >> Deb, >> yes. >> And Alicia, >> yes.
>> It is unanimous with several absent. Um, before I open it for public comments, are there any other comments or questions from the committee? Deb, >> would it be inappropriate to ask um the
name of the subcontractor for G geothermal? Um a colleague in Shootsbury wanted was interested in comparing their company for their library with ours. >> Bob can respond because he's been in
direct contact with them. Uh Deb, go on Bob. >> Thank you, Deb. Um, I've actually been in direct contact with I believe it's Anna. >> Yeah. >> Provided um it it appeared what she was really looking for was more input and
advice sort of regarding the totality of a geothermal project and not just the well contractor. >> Um, so I ultimately put her in touch with uh Daniscoco's subconsultant uh who we all thought was the best person to start with.
>> Thank you so much. So, I just I'm going to turn it over for public comment, but Angela, as we were waiting to start the meeting, said so that we've been reached out to um to acknowledge our website by another town
that's building an elementary school. So, um I've been the person working with Cassenia that has updated that. It's Cassenia. I know I'm behind, but um getting some more of the pictures, but they uh liked our design. So, I want to
thank Accenture for the effort that was made at the very beginning to pull that website together, the project website. >> Thank you, Kathy. And I'll pass that to Margaret because much of that credit goes to her. >> Right. So, if there are no other comments, I am opening it for the public
now. Um we have one attendee. If you would like to make a public comment, please raise your hand. Seeing no hand raised, um I think we are ready to adjourn the
meeting and I will just take a quick vote to make sure there are no last comments. Um I make a motion to adjourn. >> Second >> and I will go around the room. Kathy is a yes. Jonathan, >> yes. >> Simone, >> yes.
>> Paul, >> yes. >> Allison, >> yes. >> Mike, >> yes. >> Deb, >> yes. >> Elicia, >> yes. >> That's unanimous. And I Mike, I might not have called on you for the invoices
because I didn't see you in the middle. But we are adjourned and we will be back in session on February 13th. Thank you everyone. Bye.