Okay. Um so, um I'm calling the town services and outreach committee meeting to order um at 10:33 and uh we noticed a meeting for 10:30.
This is the uh town services and outreach committee meeting of October 23rd, 2025. And uh I guess that the uh first thing that I need to do is to remind everybody
that this meeting is being conducted while you're above means. Members of the public have access to the meeting by Zoom and by telephone. Uh there's no in-person attendance at this meeting either by the committee or by the
public, but we've made every effort to make sure that uh people have access in real time on technological means. Um what I um and I want to remind everybody that the meeting is being recorded. And
so that said, let me check in to make sure that the members of the committee are for now. Uh we don't know if Hollis being able to join us or not. Um but uh you might be able to check with her. Um
council Ryan, can you hear? >> Yes, I can. >> And Jennifer, >> yes. >> And Bob Edgar. >> Yes, present. >> Okay, so we have four members present. and that constitutes a quorum and uh we
can proceed. So I think that the next thing I need to do is um it's a matter of uh how the council rules work is to check and see if there's any request for public comment. I know
that there's one member of the um public in somebody is in attendance. Um if there's an interest in making public comment um please raise your hand um
this is um totally um regarding one agenda item which is the town polic town council policy regarding control and regulation
of the public ways And uh if there is uh any questions the members of the public have of uh me about other issues, just um send me an email. Uh Council Lord has joined us. Uh Council Lord, can you
hear? >> Yes. Can you hear me? >> Yes. So the way that we're um going to proceed is um in just a moment um I'm going to do a share screen with a
revised draft of the policy that is the sole subject of today's discussion and I'll have it on the screen and then be able to actually work with the um so that at that point when I do that I may
not be able to see who has hands raised and um so I'm asking councelor Ryan who's the vice chair of the committee um at that point to take over um that particular u role of uh making sure that
people who want to be recognized are recognized. Um what happened yesterday um is that councelor Ryan and I met along with Paul Bachelman with uh Lauren
Goldberg from KP Law and we reviewed the policy draft that um was sent to the committee yesterday and should be added to the packet for today's meeting since it is being discussed at today's
meeting. And then um the version that um I'll be putting on the screen is also available. Um I leave it to Athena to decide what should go in the packet. Um
the uh policy um I did send to uh uh the version that we're going to be looking at. I'm I did already send it to councelor Ryan and to town manager Bachleman so that um they can uh Paul
can provide a copy if you needed Athena. Um what happened in the discussion was that we talked about a series of issues that had been concerning to the committee that had been kind of hanging us up in a
little bit had been hanging TS uh G up also and uh it was a very um uh worthwhile discussion and uh I think that there were two major points that I
that we covered in particular. Um, and then we went over the policy again to make sure that it was in conformity with what we wanted, which is why I do not think that it needs further legal review
because what we're going to be what I'm going to be showing on the screen in a minute is the version that was that we um developed yesterday um with the meeting um with uh
Attorney Goldberg. So, um, Attorney Goldberg has obviously already re knows what we put in it and has approved it and directed us. Um, the one issue that we talked about was the board of license
commissioners. And for the most part, we dropped the board of license commissioners from most of the policy other than the delegation of authority. Uh the board of licensed commissioners
has its own um regulations on uh the lunch cart issue which is what we referred to them. And it has um policies regarding uh public hearings um
that are held in regard to lunch carts. And uh that um is sufficient to cover the the subject. And um I pointed out that um the uh lunch card has been
assigned to them for the last seven years since we're six years since we adopted this policy. And um in no time have they reported to the council and nobody from the council see has has
asked um for reports and therefore regular reports um we did not think were necessary and she was fine with that. Uh the other thing we talked about a lot was the subject of public hearings. And um the
uh um I think what the major point was that she was making is that um public hearings do not require any notice or publication
um unless it's required by statute. And so in the zoning public hearing, there are very specific u rules regarding public hearings that apply, but she pointed out that um
public hearings are held all the time and they're just noticed as a part of the agenda for and as long as they're for announced in the agenda which is posted 48 hours in advance that um there's no need to do any uh
notification and uh that we should just if we if it's easier to call something a public hearing um just because that's what people think of as an opportunity to be
heard um that we should just go ahead and do so. And uh the uh there's in sort of in the discussion that followed I pointed out that we have public hearings that are required by the charter for uh
that the finance for an example is the finance committee is required to hold a public hearing on the budget and we just notice it in the agenda for the meeting and um that uh we don't otherwise treat
is anything um exceptional. And uh the other example that came in yesterday's email after we met was we all got um a notice uh that uh the board of health is holding a public hearing about tobacco
issues. So, um, we felt comfortable with those, uh, with making changes regarding public hearings and, um, including it dropping all requirements of notice because, uh, that
is where the burden that we were concerned about is whether would be a a cost or in direct cost or cost in staff time. And uh if it's just posted, it's not uh doesn't fit into that category.
So uh Council Ryan, did is there anything else that you want to report from the meeting? >> No, Andy, I think you've captured it. That's that's fine. >> Is there any questions uh now before I go into share screen?
Seeing none. Um, let's see if I can find I believe that this is the correct one. So, um, actually I can see on the side of the screen I can see hands. I can see all of you.
So, if you raise your hands. So the first thing as we go through this and u what I'm hoping we can do is agree on this and um or make changes as we go and
that we can conclude this meeting fairly quickly with the complete policy. Um because while you looks like there are a lot of changes, they're really all in the very beginning. Um and then a few as
we move along. Um the one thing that attorney Goldberg suggested was that we take this sentence that is uh you see with my cursor and uh about um complying
with state laws and regulations and move it to u section A for purpose and authority. And um since uh um it was attorney Goldberg who suggested that we
do that, we went ahead and made that change. Um councelor Ryan wanted to explain the rationale behind it or did you want to go ahead and do that? >> Um what her thinking was >> you can go ahead
just uh I don't want to keep it moving but go ahead and explain. So >> I just want committee members to understand why she did what she did. Um it's a small matter but um this particular section A applies to everyone that is delegated authority under this
policy whereas where it was originally placed it only applied to TPC and to uh BLC and then we took the BLC out. So um she felt that it made more sense to put it at the very top so it applies to everyone who uh is a delegate. Uh so
that includes obviously the board of license commissioners along with the transportation parking commission. It includes the uh uh superintendent of public works. It includes Paul, the police chief, fire chief, etc. Um it's just it's just covering our uh you know just covering the bases. So that's why
it was moved um out of section C into section A. >> So if there's agreement of that, I will make that change. Does anybody and I'll just leave it. If anybody is an objection, please raise your hand
seeing none, I'm going to go ahead and make that and uh because so I'm saying accept move. Okay. Then the next thing u that we came up with u was uh
that we uh wanted to change um this to remove the board of license commissioners. So that we uh um it changes the title recommendations and other actions of TPC
and um we removed board of license commissioners from that sentence. Any if there are any objections please raise your hand. Council Ryan, >> again, Annie, just to explain, um, and maybe it's obvious to everybody, so I
apologize, but, um, it turns out that in section C, everything refers to TPC. Um, so it made sense to just, uh, remove BLC. Um, and make it clear that section C applies only to the transportation and parking commission. Um, and that's also
why that uh, that sentence got moved up to section A. So that was the thinking here that um C is about only TPC. So let's just say that >> yeah which is why it changes from actions of delegates to actions of TPC
and removes board of license commissioners. >> Mhm. >> Uh so any objections? Seeing no hands. I'm going to see if I can go ahead and just accept the changes.
Sorry to do it this way, but it's actually going to give us a complete document at the end. Uh so then we get to u the next section
and um the notice um she'll be um provisions don't apply because um the kind of hearing that we're talking about and I think that the other thing that obvious uh should be obvious is that I
reported um to um our attorney attorney that um the committee had voted at its last meeting that we were not going to do what we commonly refer to as poll
hearings, but leave the hearings with the U council and that um she is not aware of any other um hearings that are required to be held by
law. though we do have a provision in there should there any ever be enacted or discovered that it isn't some way covered. Um I see that Bob Hegner has his hand up.
>> Yeah, I just wanted to go back to um the first the first sentence. It's just not grammatically correct. um need to put a period at the end of that sentence and take out the period. Shall after
shall control and regulate the public ways. I put the comma in there. Um typically comma should go inside the quotes, but I I can live with anything else. But but there you've got the the
period and then you just making it the keeper of the public way is just hanging there. So you what would you do? >> I would I would first of all you need a period at the end of that first sentence making it the keeper of the public way
and then I would remove the period that's shall control and regulate the public ways. I would remove that period there because that's not the end of the sentence. Let me see if I can uh
>> Yeah, the period inside the quote, >> right? >> Yeah. Okay. Um I just want to take track changes off or so getting back up to here. Um
deeper the public ways. So we'll just make that a period. You know what was the next thing you wanted me to do? >> Remove the the period earlier in the sentence be um next to the
>> right. Okay. So, um, >> so, so I do have a question on two as well on C2. Um, but I, but because you said you wanted to have this done, I just pointed that out. >> I appreciate it. >> It's good. Thank you.
>> So, the I think the next question is u whether we can uh remove the notice section. Uh again this was uh the part of the discussion yesterday at the meeting I described
uh that um we don't want any notice requirement that is other than uh being posted as a part of an agenda is a usual matter because it's not required. Uh Bob, >> yeah, that's what I was going to
suggest. Um that we we need to we don't want to put a oneweek thing for all, you know, all public hearings if it's if 48 hours is sufficient
>> and that and and that was uh the advice of attorney Goldberg. So, I'm going to >> The recommendation is to remove all the darkened text. That's what we're suggesting to do one second.
>> Yeah. So this actually should be deleted and then uh that takes care of the uh change in numbering. But um the suggestion was that we recommend for
deletion everything that is uh after essentially um after the part that's in yellow. So that it would the entire section for matters requiring a public hearing. the
TPC shall hold a public hearing if required by law, regulation or contract and may do and if it's uh votes made uh to do so that would be the entire
section. Yeah. So any questions or objections? And uh sorry, just trying to see if we can move this. >> Bob has his hand up. >> Yeah. Andy, the the only question I have
is um does the the the the language um that follows that notice shall be provided sentence, does that is that obvious to
um the TPC that they need to do that as part of a public hearing or I mean is that within I mean does the does the original council policy require that the council
to do this >> to do uh the notice >> shall record any public hearing. It shall formally open the required public hearing on any pending matter blah blah blah. Um, does that is that part of the
original town council requirements or policy requirements or did we add this Athena's uh knowledge of something that I'm missing? I think the answer is no. Um that kind of notice and reporting
requirement um applies to hearings like zoning hearings where there's some statutory requirement that it be held. But you know we were continuously grow as we
were going through the document. The um goal was to um bring it down to something equivalent to how we handle most hearings at the council level which
is uh just notice um and uh it's recorded in the minutes and uh most of the meetings are held and actually I think we there is I think later in the in docu doument something to the effect
of if available. Uh that um the the the not the the meetings are mostly recorded and retained
and uh but that's uh you know how we do most of our meetings. >> That's fine. I just I just wanted to make sure that you know we're not we're not diluting this down so that there isn't any
requirements for a public hearing. Um >> well if the law if there's a law change I mean the whole thing with the TPC shield public hearing a propri
regulation or contract we um we don't know of any uh attorney Goldberg doesn't know of any um if any comes to light then they can do so and they're we're going to have to make changes in the pot might have to make changes in the policy
at the time it's discovered but um otherwise uh I think that it would the thought was that it was not necessary. Uh, councelor Ryan. >> Yeah, I think that as we go through the
document, Bob, you'll see that um, provisions are made in other parts of it. Um, making it clear what we expect TPC to do when they're dealing with some of these issues. Um this seems to be more this seems to have been driven by the whole
idea of a public hearing which was introduced by the attorney and the thought was to just leave it in. Um if at some point um there it turns out that they actually are required under some unforeseen provision or if uh the the
laws change or if they decide on their own that they want to conduct a public hearing. Um this allows this simply gives them the authority to do that. But it also leaves it up to them how they're going to conduct it unless in fact the public hearing that they are required to
do has certain statutory requirements and of course then they'd have to follow those. So I think that's the the reasoning here. >> Okay, I'm I'm okay with that. I just some clarity that's all. >> Yeah, I think that's why it's there. >> So everything in gray I'm going to
delete. So then we get to the next section. This was something that was uh came out of the G meeting. Uh go had introduced a comment that uh
recommendation did not need a capital R which was in the original. Um so that that was a minor point. uh in the deletion section. You want to explain it, George, or
>> um the feeling was that this was this way beyond what we would expect them to do. In other words, requiring them to reference the location at which the uh meeting occurred. um and
and and could be viewed um with access to testimony and documentary evidence. This seemed to be beyond um what we would expect. Um so that's why it was taken out. So is there any objection?
>> None. We will go ahead and >> I mean I think it's it's just a question. And I think for us to think about for a second uh we're sitting on the council now imagine and TPC sending us a recommendation about some matter that we've given them authority to to uh
you know we we'd ask them for a recommendation um uh the language here is pretty sparse um but it simply says that uh you should submit a written recommendation to the council um and it should actually Andy I think that next sentence should stay in such
recommendations shall include the specific factual findings made in support thereof. Um and then from the recommendation shall also include that part was going to all that was going to be deleted. Um and the question for the
committee and for the council ultimately is that sufficient um instructions to them as to what we expect? Um and my feeling was the answer was yes. But that that's something we may want to think or talk some more about.
But what we're recommending is just the first two sentences stay and everything else goes. I don't think we care where it is um where it can be viewed. Um I don't know that we want copies or access to the testimony and documentary evidence. Um
right. I think we're talking about essentially a a conversation. Um well yeah so >> I think that the uh we're getting back to the question is
do we need more than what is um going to be available in the minutes um of the meeting u if there's interest in having it because it's equivalent to a hearing
such as um public hearing that that is held. I mean there there um in in like the the examples I gave earlier the finance committee
hearing that's held by the council uh we don't have do these additional things there is um later in the document um information about the recommendations
and what the recommendations should include. M >> and I think we need to remember the council's the final deciding body in these contexts and if we had further questions or we wanted a greater more clarification we could ask for it and we'd say well we're not going to vote until you know if we're not satisfied
with what they gave us we can ask them for more but I think trying to specify it here seems overkill greed. So this section that I So then that um this this next one is
fairly easy because we would be just eliminating the board of licensed commissioners um from the uh requirement um the problem of changing
So, we're just removing the board of license commissioners here. >> Andy, I do notice uh this is something I wish picked up on. Um this also has the same requirement that we just deleted up above about um uh well actually the
language is very similar in general. Following deliberation on the merits of a request, it shall make a record of its actions, which seems reasonable, supported by written factual findings and including reference to the location at which the meeting can be viewed if available and where documentary evidence
can be reviewed. Um, again, we had taken that lang similar language out of the previous section. Um, so in those matters where they have they have authority and they're not making a recommendation. Um, again, is this being
overly um controlling? Um, that's that's a question. Uh, we didn't discuss this with the attorney, and I don't think Andy and I have talked about it, but I just noticed the language is very similar to what's above.
So, why do we keep it here and not have it up above? That's Jennifer. >> Yeah, I don't know. Um, we must have standard language for other commissions and boards. I don't know why this would be more stringent
or more stringent isn't the word. More specific or detailed. >> Right. >> The photo is to take >> What does it say? I mean, isn't it? It says you have to have I mean the agenda for the meeting will say
where it's taking place and the Zoom link and >> be a recording of the meeting and the minutes of the meeting. >> So it's okay to take this piece out. >> That's what we're thinking.
>> Any objection? None. >> No, I just don't know. You know, we must have >> Right. Exactly. >> Standard what we have for other multiple member bodies required to do. >> Yeah. >> Um >> I mean Athena has the most experience
with this in in since she's spent right a lot of time with these bodies. Um, I don't know that that there's need for us to be telling them how to run their business as long as there's some general understanding of what they're supposed
to do, which there must be. Does it need to be in here is the question. So the next thought of course was to remove board of license commissioners but leave the monthly reporting requirement in if the committee if it if
the commission doesn't do anything in the month and uh what it only takes a sentence to report that there was no action taken. Um but um the assumption is that uh
having some sort of uh report to the council because it is uh dealing with authority that is directed uh did not seem burdensome. Um
it would just be a matter of uh the chair or staff support for the committee uh doing some kind of regular report so that um it's kind of becomes equivalent
to some of the material that gets uh reported in the town manager report on a regular basis. L um when the town manager does any action um pursuant to this policy under the
current um procedure that gets reported to the council through the town manager's uh regular written reports that he provides the council. So I think that was what our thinking was on that one.
So if there's no objection, I'll do I'll I'll just make accept the changes. So that uh in the meantime, I'm just uh taking care of the numbering problem that existed.
Take out the uh board of license commissioners wherever it is. And uh that see this last sentence seems to be unnecessary. >> I agree.
>> And uh so we can delete that and uh delete that sentence. And this last um section was just the title heading and
that whole thing should be deleted. I'll uh take care of the spacing later because I don't want to. Yeah, that will take care of it. Um so that moving along then through and would take care of the pageionation at
some later point. Um then there no uh no changes further until this point in the reservation for the lunch cards because it is still referred to the um board of license
commissioner. Um and uh we asked whether u whether there are regular reports. Um apparently there are none. Paul has never asked for them. U
and so we were just going to leave it. Um I think that actually we need to do more. The period would have to come after lunch carts right here. >> Yeah, I agree. um
thoughts? >> Well, I guess the question is then how does anyone know what they're doing? Um if the town manager doesn't get a report and we don't get a report, uh I mean maybe Yeah, I thought we were going to leave town manager in um in other words
that but you what you're saying is that they don't do this anyway. So we're requiring something they don't do and apparently it's working fine. Um but the question does uh come up then how do we how do we learn about this? Um um
because I occasionally we do I mean I discovered that there's suddenly a lunch cart somewhere in town downtown that wasn't there before and obviously it's been approved by some board right it's been approved by the BLC um but I knew
nothing about it and apparently and sometimes I might actually have some concerns um when I think about certain downtown businesses and competition etc. I might have some thoughts about it. Um,
but so I just wonder I guess I guess Paul's not here, but I just wonder what Andy, maybe you can help me understand this. Um, he simply said he doesn't get reports from them. Or is it they rarely do it? Or maybe it's just doesn't happen very often. But
why are we taking the town manager out of here? I understand the council. That makes no sense because it's his business. But why are we taking him out? Okay, >> Andy, if I can just point out the um I'm
sorry, I was having audio problems before. The board of licensed commissioners um is required to submit an annual report to the town council. >> Okay. >> Say that again. >> Provide an annual report to
>> the charter requires the board of licensed commissioners provide an annual report. So you see those at the end of the year when the council receives the annual reports for from um those other bodies, the school committee. Yeah. It's around the time that we do the the state of the town. >> Oh, that's true.
>> But this is lunch carts. Okay. And um maybe there there are so few and it happens so rarely it yearly is not a problem. But as I just said, um suddenly a lunch cart pops up and I, you know, just go, "Oh, that's interesting." Um,
and we don't hear about it and apparently the town manager doesn't hear about it until the end of the year. So, um, that's I guess my question. I understand a yearly report. >> Yeah. >> But yeah, go ahead. >> Um, if I may, I think the
the uh, not to be rude, but I think the solution might be paying more attention to what the board of licensed commissioners is doing. um because all their meetings and hearings and so on are posted. >> Well, not to be rude, but I got a lot of things on my plate. So, it have some uh
way of getting notified. Um >> so, you can subscribe to the >> once a year >> the you could subscribe to the town board and committees >> and add >> and and receive notifications for those. But I think um you know we would need to
ask uh probably Steve McCarthy to give us an idea of how often they act on those and how reasonable it is to request a monthly report from the board. I think as as Paul does in the um sections of the public ways policy that
are under his authority, I think he reports to the council when he takes action, when he makes approvals, >> right? Um, so you might consider something like that rather than a monthly report so that when the board does make an approval, it could be a quick notification to the council rather
than a report every month when there may or may not be um approvals every month. >> If that was if that was your if that's what what the committee would prefer, >> right? >> Well, I'm just speaking for myself on this particular issue and I'm just one
voice. I don't know what the agree with councelor Ryan that they that you would like a report when a new lunch cart is authorized. If you don't if there's no
we would need two me three members of the committee to say that they would want that for because we'd have to take it to a vote. >> Well, my thought is if I >> are you making a motion, George? >> Uh yeah, I I'm trying to forward it in
my head. What I'm thinking or like to move is that um the language read something to the effect of what Lena Athena was suggesting that um I'm thinking right act on request for parking lunch cards providing the town manager with a report um when such
actions are taken. Um, I agree with her that the manager is good about letting us know what's going on. Um, and he puts it in his his reports and I don't see that the council necessarily has to be notified of this. Um, but I'd like somebody to be notified when it happens
as opposed to at the end of the year. Um, that was my thinking. So, language would be something to the effect of um I can't well it's hard to read this now. Um, >> I think this is the language that is in
the section right now for the town manager and he puts it in his town manager report >> when they happen when they occur as opposed to Yeah. >> Well, right now we're not getting notification.
>> You're not getting ad notification from the board of license commissioners, right? >> Directly or indirectly. >> Yeah. which is I mean I is there anybody else who feels the notification
in some manner reaching the council should happen when action is taken on punch cards. >> George I think that you're not getting support. Yeah. >> So, I'm going to delete it because I need we need to move on. We were trying
to keep this as brief as possible. Um, and this was uh section council Chinese keeper. This authorities keeper of the public wish provided. cover the prior to council action,
the TPC shall hold the public hearing. Um that we would need to take all of that out because it's not required. Um or do we want to keep it in? I think here the thought Andy was to use
the word p the phrase public meeting um and delete uh hearing um just to avoid confusion with previous you know statements about public hearings um was a thought so would read provided however
that prior to council action TPC shall hold a public meeting um on each request. I think the idea is that we simply want to make it clear to them that we expect them to and I know they will to have some kind of public session or meeting whatever you want to call it
on each request that's made to them but we would strike the the rest of the language. Um so TPC shall hold a public meeting and then um then the rest would be stricken. we not requiring notice to
residents or property owners. That we agreed, Paul agreed, we all agreed that that was ownorous and and and not appropriate. So, right back in H. Nice. So, we would just leave it at that.
>> I'm good with that. So then we're moving along the next section that came up of a discussion as you see moving getting down to here is other requests.
Um, bound council retains authority to hold public hearings and authorize any changes involving placement of utility structures. Um, that being the sentence because
um we are eliminating the referral. This is uh where we're uh changing the policy as we voted in the last meeting. So that's pretty straightforward.
Again, people who is accepting these changes that had already been drafted yesterday. Um So as you look at it, make sure that it reads as you would think appropriate.
Um, council retains the authority to hold public hearings, review and authorize any changes involving the placement of utility structures. and uh placement of utility structures,
just so you know, is um the way it's worded in mass general laws. Uh poll hearings seems to be everybody's favorite term for it, but it in the state statute, it's not called that. So,
we were um just using the state statute language. When I talked to Alex Jarrett, they do the same thing. In Northampton, they call them poll hearings. Um, but
>> Andy, just a quick thought. Uh, had you mentioned to the committee that you had a a good communication with Alex and that he also um confirmed for you that at least in their experience, the only kind of public hearing um that they hold
and have held to date has been these utility structure hearings. So what we call pole hearing. >> Yes. But they also uh >> hold them at the council level. >> Right. But I'm saying that their
transportation parking commission um has never had any other kind of uh formal public hearing of any sort. It's it's uh um I mean we have this >> I think I reported that in an email >> beginning. Yeah. Sorry.
All righty. So, if we uh >> Andy uh G I you need a period at the end of that sentence just after the etc. Last, etc. You've got a you need a period there.
Sorry. >> Do that. I think we should for this two. I I one it should follow the same language that we had above should hold the public meeting
on each request. >> Yeah. Just need a you just need the word a public meeting. Yeah. Good. >> So, um
that was the uh changes that came out uh that we discussed yesterday in the meeting with Attorney Goldberg and uh that some George and I had uh I worked on and then George reviewed them.
uh but if this is acceptable what I um and it's going to be adopted by the committee then what I will do is uh you know after we vote on it because we do
need to vote on it um is I will uh send it to go with an explanation um that uh all of these changes were reviewed uh by the attorney and that further that
unless uh she feels otherwise and talks to town manager that um probably further legal review is not necessary. So, with that said, I'm going to make the motion that we adopt
um that we recommend the town services outreach committee recommends the changes to the town council policy regarding uh control and regulation of
the public way as reviewed at uh its meeting on October 23rd, 2025. >> Second. >> So, there's been motions made and
seconded. Uh, shall we, uh, proceed to a vote? Anybody want to say anything more? Not. Um, council Ryan >> I. >> Council Lord >> I. >> Uh, Bob.
>> Hi. >> Tob. >> Yes. Yes. So, it's unanimous. Um, and I don't think that we have anything else that we had planned for today. It was a to be a one item meeting.
>> And we meet next week. >> I see. >> And we do meet next week. I don't have a long agenda for next week. Um, we were u see if I could one one item
was to um see if we could get um and I did talk with uh Guilford Boring about this, come back and review where we are with Southeast Street. And this is a matter that is of strong interest
to uh Kathy Shane on behalf of the elementary school building committee. And the other uh section is the lighting policy. Um though I did talk with uh uh
Mandy Hani yesterday and uh um she does not feel strongly that about what we do at this point because she says that if reelected she intends to reintroduce um this is a bylaw.
And uh at that point, I think if she did that, I think that uh it being put forward as a policy will kind of go away on its own. But we probably will want to s at least acknowledge that it was in the carryover
memo from the last council to this council and no action was taken because we received no recommendation from u the town manager or the superintendent of public works. Council Ryan,
>> uh just some clarification according to my calendar, we don't meet next week. We meet November 6th. Is that correct? >> That's correct. >> Yeah, that's actually what I have on my calendar, too. I didn't >> Yeah, it's all right. But the second thing is that um just an agenda item to consider. Um I think uh Jennifer would
join me in this, I hope, but we would like to meet with and talk to the uh consultants that we have uh engaged with related to the waste hauler bylaw. And I I don't know if the 6th is a possible date, but um I know you had raised this
with Paul. Um, I would hope that at some point as sooner rather than later and certainly before the end of this term that we have an opportunity to meet with them and talk to them about what our thoughts are and what we've uh been working on. Um, I think they've already
requested that that happen. So, I don't know if the 6th is possible. Um but if not the 6th and the 20th um is is just a request that that we make that a priority uh that we uh have a chance to talk to them before our term is up.
>> I will communicate that to the town manager. I think he knows. We've talked about >> I thought we had discussed that at the last meeting that they were definitely coming. Well, >> well, he that was his plan. >> Okay. >> He had to consult with the uh the
consultant once they hire you have a contract. I'm not sure that they have a contract yet. So, is there a motion to adjurnn? >> I so move >> second. Motion's made and seconded to adjourn.
Council Ryan >> I. >> Council Lord >> I. Uh Bob Hegner >> I Tab. >> Yes. >> And I'm an I. So it's unanimous. So thank you very much for this extra meeting. >> Only an hour. Thank you.
>> Okay. >> Bye. >> Bye.