We're recording and we're live. >> The chair notes that the time is 6:08 p.m. I call the zoning board of appeals meeting of August 28th to order. My name is Everald Henry, chair of the Amherst Zoning Board of Appeals. I want to
welcome everyone to this meeting. We will begin with a roll call of the ZBA members. Mr. Slovder >> here. >> Miss Mr. Held >> here. >> Miss Greenbomb >> here.
>> And we are awaiting Mr. Meadows. Um the chair notes that a core is present. Also present tonight is um Miss Justinta Williams, planner for the town. Pursuant to chapter two of the acts of
2025 extended through June 30th of 2027, the ability of the public bodies to meet in in to meet in full remote or hybrid manner. This meeting will be conducted via remote means. Members of the public who wish to access the meeting may do so
via Zoom or via telephone. No inperson attendance of members of the public will be permitted, but every effort will be made to ensure that the public can adequately access the proceedings in real time via technological means. The zoning board of appeals is a quasi
judicial body that operates under the authority of chapter 48 of the general laws of the commonwealth for the purpose of promoting the health, safety, convenience, and the general welfare of the inhabitants of the town of Amherst. One of the most important elements of
the Ammerzonium bylaw is section 10.38. Special findings from this section must be made for all of our decisions. Statutoily for a special permit, the board has 90 days from the closing of the hearing to file a decision for a variance. The board has 100 days from
the date of filing to file its decision. No decision is final until the written decision is signed by the city board members and is filed in the town clerk's office. Once the decision is filed with the clerk, there is a 20-day appeal period for an agreved party to contest the
decision with the relevant judicial body in the superior court. After the appeal period, the permits must be recorded at the register of deeds to take effect. Tonight's agenda is a public meeting in accordance with condition six of the
special ZBA permit FY 2018-04 review of the updated management plan on behalf of the property owner of Rajie Jog and this is for 320 West
Street. Also on the agenda tonight is ZBA FY2026-02 585 Station Road. Request a special permit under section 9.22 22 to extend pre-existing non-conforming structure and increase a pre-existing
non-conforming lot coverage for the modification of the front of the home to build an open portico for property located on map parcel 24B-20 RO and ARP outline residence and
aquifier recharge protection zoning districts. will also approve review and approve the minutes from our last meeting of August 14, 2024 five. I had an opportunity to re and we should
start with approve of minutes. I had an opportunity to review the minutes and I saw Mr. Ael's comments and I believe those um corrections were updated. Um has the other members reviewed the minutes and are there any modifications
to be made? I have no modifications. >> Mr. Offel, you're satisfied? >> I am satisfied. Thank you. >> And I have no modifications. So to that end, I will entertain a motion to
approve the minutes from August 14, 2025. Is there such a motion? >> So move. >> It has been moved and second. >> Second. Um the vote occurs on the motion. Mr. Slovder
>> I. >> Mr. Offeld >> I. >> M greenbomb. >> Apologize. Sorry. >> That is okay. Mr. Meadows, thank you for being here. And the chair votes I. And
actually in in in deference to Mr. Meadows, um let me just ask this question just in case. Um, we are voting on the meeting minutes um from August 14th. Do you have any modifications to be made? >> No. >> Yeah. Thank you, Mr. Meadows. Um, M Mr.
Meadows votes I on approval of minutes from August 14, 2025. And the chair votes I. The motion is adopted. The minutes have been approved. We will now go to our second agenda item which is the public meeting um for ZBA
special permit FY208-04 for 320 West Street um where there's a request to review the updated management plan pursuant to condition six of the permit and the property now has a new owner Rajie Jog
I'm hoping I'm saying that right Mr. Jo and if we may have um the petitioner appear please. >> Hi I'm not sure if you're are you looking for me Jai Fuller or for Rajie Jog >> who represents 320 West Street for this
petition. >> I I did I filed the application and the management plan on his behalf >> as the property manager. >> Okay. you and Miss Fuller is your name. >> Yeah. Yes. >> Can can Miss Fuller, can you please just
identify yourself with your address for the record, please? >> Sure. Um, my address is 189 Long Plane Road, Leett, Massachusetts 01054. >> Thank you. And I read your letter and if
I'm understanding correctly, you're only here asking for approval of the management plan. Correct. >> Um what is the difference between this management plan and the prior management plans? >> Um there's a new landscaper. Um it's
grassroots landscaping. It used to be four seasons I believe. Um but the work that they do is the same. Um and the what else is different? I mean, it's really that I took over management
um from the previous management manager that was approved with the previous owner. >> So, the only difference is we have a new property manager and a new landscaping company. >> The there's also a um parking plan that
is different. It's still four cars, but the arrangement of the parking plan is different. And that was also already approved. >> The parking plan was approved by >> I'm sorry it it broke up a little bit.
Um, I was able to meet um with I'm blanking on his a very lovely gentleman from the town who does um the codes and he he came out and met me
after to just make sure that everything was fine about the way we were parking. >> Okay. And so that is so the parking um while you have a new parking plan that's not part of tonight's request because that was already approved by the town is what you're saying. >> Yes.
>> Okay. And in in the lighting section you also added um language in there. Are there changes to the lights? >> Well um I had to I did a little bit of work on the lights. I mean, there were
there was an old light that just needed a new fixture put in um with the lower unit and so we did that and but it's all downcasted lights that fall within the parameters and no I didn't other than
that I didn't install any new lights or change it. And the the I know you said you did some work on the light and just to make sure I understand correctly. I think you said fixtures. So fixtures mean different type. Is it a different type of light
versus a light bulb? Can you clarify? >> Well, the one that had been there was like recessed into this overhang above the pathway down to the the front door or it's actually the back door that that that the tenants use from the parking
area. So that fixture was not functioning well and so we just replaced it with the type that has the bulbs sort of on the outside so you can point them in the direction and the sort of coverage so that they're downcast. This
was another thing that he checked up on. He just kind of walked the property and made sure that everything was to code. And I I also see that it documented that some of these are motion censored. Um
were the motion censored um there prior to this petition? >> Yes. >> Okay. And I I I don't think I have any additional questions. I'll open up to the panel for their questions um or raise any concerns
that they may have. Are there any members of the panel who wish to ask any questions? >> Mr. Afeld? >> Yeah, I I'm looking at the conditions and this this application is responding to condition six of the original uh
special permit and it says new property ownership will be required to come with a new management plan at a public meeting. So, that's what we're reviewing. But there's also reference in the conditions to a complaint response plan. And I but I'm I'm so my question is is that handled in
the management plan. It says specifically contact Miss Fuller in case of complaint and then you know contact information is provided telephone email etc. So I I think we're all set on on that as
well. Is that is that a good read of this? >> Miss FL, that's a question for you. >> Oh, I'm sorry. Yes. Um, as far as I understand, that is what you know what I needed to submit. If if something more
is needed, I can do that. >> So, Mr. Mr. offloaded. Do you have more or you're >> I'm all set. >> Okay, >> that was my one thing. Yep. >> Miss Greenbomb, any questions? >> Yeah, my question is since we don't have
a copy of the lease, I would like to know what her policies are in the lease and have the tenants been informed about how many guests they can have and other party policies and what do you do about noise at one o'clock in the morning on
Sunday, etc. Yes. Um I believe a while back I did submit a copy of the lease. Um I can do
that again, but the the tenants are limited to to guests. They're also very limited with parking. And so, um, the lease indicates all of these things that after 1000 p.m. they
have to be quiet and so forth. It it it indicates all of these guidelines. Yes. >> And what are they for that property? >> I'm going to I'm pulling it up in my um files right now.
The um the unfortunate thing I apologize is that um I am on my my phone right now. I thought that Rajie was going to be here. I don't believe he made it to the meeting.
>> He is here. >> Oh, hi Rajie. >> Hi. And I can look it up for you if you want. Uh when uh give me a minute. I I can look it up for you. So I believe all that is in the lease. Uh
where would it be? Uh property management. Uh the tenant leases. No, that's not here. Um I know you emailed it to me but not very long ago. I can search in my email, but I think I saved all the leases as well.
Uh, give me a moment. Um, >> so in in in fairness to um Mr. Jog and Miss Fuller, um I I I don't think we ask you for at least and we do appreciate that if you have to look for it. We are however um
to satisfy um the board's concerns and answer the questions asked that you submit that to Miss Williams like a full a full version of the lease to Miss Williams. >> Okay. >> Do I still have the floor? >> Yes, you do, Miss Green. >> I'm not satisfied with that answer. I I
think we need to know what the party policies are >> for sure. Um >> I think that's part of the biggest part of management. I I was able to um let's see. Is this what I'm looking for?
Um yes. Okay. I just pulled it up and here we are. Just finding the clause. Um maintain not party regulations. It's number 16 on our
lease. Regulations are necessary out of respect for your neighbors and the property. In order to avoid liability for property damage and lives of others, wise management of alcoholic beverages is essential. Permitting any minor to consume an alcoholic beverage can be
traced to you and may lead to personal liability for grave injury to persons and property which is in any way connected with such negligence. Therefore, in interest of general welfare of residents and the management of the property, the following rules
must be um sorry, I had to change pages here. Um sorry. Okay. The following rules must be adhered to for any sort of gathering. Violations of the regulations
con constitutes personal liability, a violation of your lease, and possible violation of the law. The number of guests at any gathering must not exceed building code safe occupancy levels. The presence of individuals at the residence in excess of the safe occupancy levels
constitutes a violation of your lease. Kegs, there's another point in this lease that it specifies how many guests they are allowed to have and I will um find that in just a moment. Kegs of any size are are banned from the residences
and including the grounds. This is an ammersted bylaw of the property and if placed there will be confiscate they will be confiscated in addition to police action being taken. Music or entertainment shall be kept at reasonable levels at all times and if
audible outside of your residence after 1000 p.m. in the evening will constitute a nuisance or an offensive use of your premises and hence a violation of your lease regardless of any police action. If there is a gathering in any unit and
property damage occurs in the vicinity of the residence, the tenants of the residence will be build jointly and severally for all the damages I identifiable to that gathering in the event of such damages. Granters of all tenants under the terms of your lease
will be notified and legal action may be may include action against all granters. Um, management will keep a record of any gatherings and such information will be available to public authorities for the purpose of identifying sources should
any personal injury accidents arise as a result of such gatherings. Management will take legal steps to ensure that those illegally responsible are held accountable for all damages caused by their actions or
negligence. Um, and then I'm going to find you where we speak about actual like guests. Um, there's another little clause that says, uh, residents will not make noise that
can be heard in other rooms, in common areas, or outside the building between 1000 p.m. and 8:00 a.m. Um, and then the guests should be right here. Thanks for your patience.
Um, >> okay. I'm sorry. >> That's okay. That's okay. Miss Flur. Um, while while you look for your section, Miss Greenbomb, will you leave the yield the floor to Mrs. slow for a question. >> I Well, I would, but I I have while
she's looking, I would also like to know about overnight guests. How many and how often overnight guests are allowed? While she's searching that, she can search that also. >> Overnight guests for sure. Yes, I will. >> Thank you. All right. I see the floor.
>> Thank you, Mrs. Were were all of the conditions that are being read to us now part of a previously approved management plan, which I believe I think they were, and
are any modifications being made to that? I'm I'm the reason that they're before us, I believe, is because of a change in ownership of the property. But if if this was previously approved and
no changes are being made to it other than replacing the name of the property manager who would be called then is hasn't this already been accepted?
>> So to answer your question, Mr. Sier, I I'm inclined to agree with you because um that is my interpretation as well. Um what Miss Fuller is reading from is actually not conditions but um the lease I I think Miss Greenbomb's question was
what does the lease say about certain things because she believes that the lease should be part of the management plan. Um but we're not here on um quite frankly um it is if there's a change of
ownership the they're required to come before us with a new management plan and nothing to your point nothing is changing other than the owner of the property and the new um landscape snow removal company
>> and replacement of a few light fixtures which is probably part of routine maintenance anyway if you put in a new light fixture. Uh the only other question I had of the new owner or of somebody
is the new owner making any modifications at all to the property any improvements any replacement any additional bathrooms anything >> and Mr. Jog who's the owner is here with his hand up and Mr. Jog, you're allowed
to speak. >> Um, I agree with Mr. Slaughter. This whole uh process here today was because of the change of ownership. We we did have a previous meeting about this and the one thing that came up was the
parking plan which Miss Fuller has submitted and someone from the town came and verified that. And then to answer Mr. Lover's question. As of now, I have no plans on record or planned to make any changes to the property. I have
considered uh putting in uh solar um electric, you know, solar panels for electricity. So, that might be the only thing that I can think of that might come before you again. And I imagine I would have to I don't know if that it's
something for the special permit or whether that would just be a routine thing as part of the town um you know building permits. >> So that's a question I have. >> Okay. >> So thank you for that. But Mr. Silver's point was in your current situation with
this um plan before us nothing is changing. Um >> okay thank you. So, Miss Miss Greenbomb, um, in in the interest of making sure that you have what you need, that's why I asked Miss Flur to email Miss Williams the lease so
it can be disseminated to all the members. That way, you can see for yourself um on paper um as to what is on there. I understand that Miss Fuller is trying to answer your questions um to going through and looking for things. Um and I'll just yield the floor back to
you to continue with um Miss Fuller. >> No, I I was just wanting to know I guess if Miss Fuller managed it under the previous owner and whether um you know, Mr. Mr. jog his own property in or own
property in a town with the high probability of students being his tenants and if he's aware of those issues. That's basically what I wanted to know whether this is a continuation of the same management company and
um will it be managed the same way that that's behind my answers and and I don't know whether this is a problem property or not because there was no information to that of that. So, so basically I guess my question is
Miss Fuller, are you new to this property or have you been doing it for a while? >> I have been managing this property for a few years now. Um, since Rajie Jog took it over. It was shortly after since he purchased it that
he hired me. And I am aware of the regulations because there are so many students in the town of Ammerst and um it has not been a problem property. There has been no reports um and we we have some students. I tend
to be able to get a graduate students. I also have some, you know, it's right now it's 50/50 students to young adults that are, you know, fully
um employed full-time and stuff. So, >> thank you very much. I appreciate that answer. >> Sure. Um, we do. Yes. and the the clause um in the lease. I'm I'm happy to send the whole lease, which is more thorough than what I'm seeing right now on my
little phone screen, but there's um visitors or guests staying more than 14 days in a calendar year are considered unauthorized occupants. Anyone not included on this lease with the exception of afterborn or adopted children must submit a rental
application for approval to reside in the unit prior to residing in the unit. So we have that and then the the clause with the number of guests that could you know come for a gathering
or a party. The number in my mind is 10 and but I am not I need to find it and um I apologize I'm not seeing it right now. >> Thank you. I appreciate you're looking.
No problem. >> I'm sorry, Miss Greenbomb. I >> just Oh, okay. We got >> to respond to Miss Greenbomb. Uh, as far I've owned the property since 2022, and Miss Fuller has been my property manager
shortly after I I took possession. and uh she's been very careful in in making sure that uh she screens the tenants and to the best of my knowledge there have been no complaints at all during my ownership and then to the best of my
knowledge there have not been complaints prior to my ownership of uh this property. So I don't think it is in any way a problem property of any kind. >> Thank you sir. I don't know, Mr. Greenbomb, if we cut
you if you got cut off or you stopped speaking. >> I'm I'm I'm finished. >> Okay. Thank you. So, um Miss Fuller and and Mr. Jog, um I I
I I think it is appropriate that you still send us a copy of the lease um so we can attach it to um this management plan. Um on behalf of the board, I would also ask for a formal management plan. I saw what was submitted was the standard
town application management plan. So I would um I think it makes sense and we've done this in the past where we get something more formal with um you know your the address of the property information contact information of the
property manager um the things that you articulated as what's covered under the management plan and then of course um attach the lease to that as well. >> I see. Okay. Um are there any other questions from
any um members of the board? Miss. So to that end, um I I would entertain um I I I think before I do that, does the board feel comfortable as is
with the information that was presented to approve um the management plan that is submitted without even waiting for it to be converted. separated from what it is now, the standard town management
plan, or do you want to see a revised management plan? Mrs. Sloer, um my understanding normally is that
there is a time period from today until the plan is officially signed off on. if they get the formal management plan and the lease to to Miss Williams in a
timely manner prior to it going this going into effect, then we would have an opportunity to review it and in the event everything is in agreement with what has been represented, it could just
go through. If if there is a significant difference that causes us concern, then we could not sign off on it and ask them to come back. I haven't heard anything tonight that causes me concern
there. The changes in ownership. I have to wonder slightly if Mr. Jog has owned this for the last three years. Why are they just coming before us now? if a new owner has to submit a new management
plan. But I don't act I don't actually care that much. It's just I'm curious why it's taken that long. But if everything is fine with this property and the documents agree with what's been represented, I'm comfortable voting on
this tonight. >> Thank you, Mr. >> Offel. Thank you, Mr. Slo. Mr. Offeld, >> I concur with Mr. Slovener, I' I'd be comfortable uh voting tonight and um and and doing as Mr. Slover suggested,
checking the documents as they come in. >> Mr. Meadows, >> you're muted. You're muted. >> And if we could hear you, Mr. Meadows, have been brilliant. >> It would have been amazing. But I'm
sorry you couldn't hear me. So, I'll just have to say that I agree with what everything you said. >> Okay. >> And Miss and Miss Greenbomb, >> I I'm fine with approving it tonight. I just think the other documents should be put on the file so that it's a complete
file. >> Thank you. >> I'm happy with the town management plan, but the other information needs to be in the file. So, I I would put that as sort of a condition of the approval. So the the file will be complete.
>> Understood. Um, Miss Williams, I see your hand up. >> Yeah. I just wanted to recognize Mr. Joe's hand had his hand up for a minute. >> Oh, I did. I wanted to have the board members um way before I go to Mr. Jo just in case he could add to what was being asked or said.
>> Okay. Thank you. >> And Mr. Um, initially to answer the to address the question raised, uh, initially I had the previous owners, previous property manager continue as the manager and the
management plan was filed in October of 2022. And then that property manager indicated that he was moving out of the area. So that's when uh, Miss Fuller was brought on. And as far as I know there were we resubmitted the same management
plan again with really if there were changes there were probably clerical changes was submitted in I believe October of 2022 and the push back at that time was about the parking plan. So my I I'm you know obviously you you are
going to ask all these questions but my understanding was all that was already done and that only the parking and there was some issue about planting of roads which Miss Miller has done was the only real outstanding issue but we'll be that's number one. Number two if you
have a plan on the town format then that should be the format that we use. I I don't understand whether I mean I have to now guess as to what you need as another plan. So I'm using the format provided by the town.
I I I I don't understand what more you need if that's the format that is prescribed by the town. >> So Miss Greenbomb, go ahead. I think it's the complaint response form the people are seeking
that that's somehow or other Mr. the job paperwork got lost between all of the new employees and and the and the retirement of the old employees. Sometime I guess the paper is mishandled
or lost on the website. Who knows? But but it would I think if there is such a thing you could fill it out and refile it so that it can be in a place where the current employees know where it is.
It shouldn't be a big deal because it's all online to just fill out the complaint response form so that that official formal document is on the file with the lease. I think that's what people are asking for because it hasn't
been found even it may exist but nobody knows where. >> Well, I will refer you to the minutes of the 2022 November 10th ZBA meeting chaired by Mr. Steve Judge. Uh Mr. Judge
inquired if there were any changes to the management plan and the answer was no. Mr. Hang who was the current then manager was going to continue. All other conditions were unchanged. Motion was unanimously approved to transfer the special permit in the same manner as the
previous transfer to Mr. James Wong to the new owner Rajie Joe. Moren inquired whether the permit would continue to be named in the name of the trans. I don't know what that means. strands, but Rob Mora indicated. So, so what I'm saying
is uh it's not like I waited for three years. This this thing was approved on 1110 2022. >> I don't Oh, sorry. >> I don't understand why you're objecting
to just fill it out again because it's apparent we've had four planners at least in this position since 2022 and stuff gets lost under the rug, I guess. I don't know why why we don't have a
copy of it, but I I don't think it's a big deal to fill out the name and the phone number of of the party, you know, of the complaint response form that everybody else has to fill out. It's not a big deal. And, you know, we should have it.
>> So, m Mr. Mr. J, I'm sorry. I I don't want to get into the weeds here. Um I I think just from prior conversation um you potentially have the board's yes vote on this. So um we do understand um what you're saying. So let's just not
get into the weeds of things. Um >> we'll be happy to submit the the plan and the complete response form back to you. >> Yeah. Um Mr. Meadows, you had your hand up. >> It was only to say let's have a motion and go forward, please.
>> Okay. So um I would entertain a motion to approve the new management plan on ZBA FY208-04. Is there such a motion? >> So moved. >> Is there is there a second?
>> Second. >> The motion has >> he'll debate me to it. Go ahead. >> Okay. The motion has been moved and second. Um the vote occurs on the motion. Mr. Sader >> I >> Miss Greenbomb >> I
>> Mr. Meadows >> I >> Mr. Offeld >> I >> and the chair votes I. The motion is approved. The new management plan um for special permit ZBA FY208-04
has been um approved. Did I see a hand raised just now? It was mine, but don't worry about it. It's fine. >> Okay. Um, I would also enter in a motion
to close this public meeting on ZBA FY 2018-04. Um, is there such a motion? >> So moved. >> A second. >> Second. >> And the vote occurs on the motion. The
chair votes I. Mr. Meadows >> I. >> Mr. So >> I >> Mr. Offeld >> hi. >> And Miss Greenbomb. >> Hi. >> This public meeting on ZBA FY 2018-04
has been closed. Um Miss Fuller and Mr. Jog, you do have your approval. Um thank you for coming tonight. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Next on the agenda is a public hearing
ZBA FY2026-02 585 Station Road request a special permit under section 9.22 22 to extend a pre-existing non-conforming structure and increase a pre-existing non-conforming lot coverage for the modification of the front of the home to
build an open portico for property located on map parcel 24B/20 R and ARP outline residents and aquifier region protection zoning districts
um who represents 585 Station Road. >> Hello. Good evening. This is Maralina Defta. I'm the owner of the property. >> Good evening, ma'am. Um, can you pronounce your last name once more? >> It's Maralina Defta.
>> Miss Da. Malina Defta. And of course, I I know what your address is, but can you just stay for the record, please? >> 585 Station Road, Ammerst uh 010002. >> Thank you. And
Just bear with me one second and while I look for what I'm looking for, there was a site visit and Mrs. Slovener, if you'd be so kind as to just recap our site visit for us. >> Oh, fine. I'll be happy to. Uh, the chair and I visited the site and toured
the area where the proposed addition will go on. It does not go any closer to the existing property line. It is built on the front of the house
and is a non-encclosed portico, I suppose, front porch to protect the entry door from the elements. It It is entirely on the front of the house.
uh extending towards the street. So, it's not approaching any neighbor. And from what was explained to me and from reading all of the documents, this is before us because the existing
footprint of the house is nonconforming uh in terms of the distance from the side property line. But the the proposed addition does not further encroach. It
just goes on the front and it uh I think Mr. the chair and I both thought that this was a a very reasonable and uh clean and not invasive addition to the house.
>> And I thank you, Mrs. Silver. And I concur with everything um you just said. And what I was trying to find just for the record are the submissions for this application. And I see the application was submitted um August 1st um 2025. And
then of course there were images of the portico submitted as well with this on um July 31st. Um Miss Williams, am I missing any submissions or is that the submissions that we have? Those are the
submissions that we have. >> Okay. Um so um having visited 585 Station Road um thank you Miss Maline for being there with us and understanding what um you're asking of
us. I don't have any questions because um I fully understand the request the need for the request um what would be done. So, I would open it to um existing members who may have questions for the applicant.
>> Mr. Offeld, >> uh I think I saw somewhere that the when the house was originally built, it was in compliance with um setbacks, but the setbacks changed as zoning changed. Is that correct?
I I I think that is correct. I I think if um if if it wasn't the update in the zoning laws, we would not be here. Um it's that's literally why um the applicant
has to be here today. Yeah. >> If I could just add an observation, I I just I did a driveby some days later. I couldn't make it to the site visit. And I just note that the property uh as you're facing the house, the property to the right, which would be
um the property that would be uh where the where the setback uh is being uh is non-conforming at this point. The the house on that property on the adjoining property is set way back from the road. So, uh it's hard to imagine
any concern uh from that property, from that house anyway. >> And and thank you for that. And I would make note that there were no um public comments or submissions from Abutters um in this regard either. Yeah. Um I I will
go to Miss Milina. I see that you have your hand up, but um I will go to Mr. Greenbomb in the event that she has questions for you. Um Miss Greenbomb. You know, I have two questions. One, I I gather because I've seen this before on other properties um that have come
before the board that the problem is the rain. Is it is it from the size of the eaves? The eaves being too narrow. Okay. So, then why is it only a problem on the north side that you'd have to address the issue?
It's because of the way the house is positioned and the way the the the wind blows. We had a wooden a brand new wooden door installed two years ago when we moved and you should see it now. It looks like a 50-year-old door. It's just
how how how the wind is uh is facing. I I wouldn't be able to tell you why that is. um is just that when you look from the front of the house, the overhang of the roof is very short. So basically in
the winter or whenever it rains and you open our door, half the rain goes inside. So it's destroyed the front of our uh floor, it's destroyed our door, it's it's really destroying the house pretty much. So my second question is then the
porticole that's over the door um which is the the pediment I guess the triangular pediment is is that part of a a a water rooting system or is that just duck ripped to >> it's it's really primarily to protect
our packages to protect our entrance door. I did have the option to just put an overhang in front of our current door. Um, which wouldn't require a special permit. Um, but just for aesthetic purposes at that point, it
made more sense to uh have the porch extend throughout the entire front of the house uh pretty much align with the length of the house. So, um, if you look in the picture currently that Miss Williams is sharing, it's only the yellow part, um, of the porch
construction that's driven by nonconformity. So, normally you need 25 ft zoning setback. Whereas, if I were to build a porch over the entire length of the house, that would drive a nonconformity of about 6 ft. So, that's
really the the part in question. If I had to do it strictly for functional reasons, I would just do it around the door, which would be well within the regular permitting. >> My question, I'm sorry. My question is the triangular pediment that's that's on
on the roof line. The old >> Oh, that is that is purely for aesthetic reasons. >> Okay. I didn't know whether it was diverting the water. Okay. >> No, it's it's aesthetics. >> Thank you. Mrs. Slover.
>> Yes. Now that I'm not reporting on the site visit and I can actually say something about the project itself, I think that this the port the proposed portico is aesthetically absolutely appropriate.
It means that there are 39 square feet of violation at the one end of this portico, but it is in line with the existing violation or nonconformity. I don't mean not violation.
Uh, as the applicant noted, if they chopped 6 and 1/2 ft off of the end of the portico, she wouldn't even have to be here, except she would then have a less attractive portico. So, this is as
non-invasive as I can possibly imagine, and I see no reason to uh to not build the full the full-size proposed portico at all. I think this makes a lot of
sense. Thank you. Thank you, Mrs. Sloer. Are there any more questions or any comments from the board? And Miss Maline, do you have anything
you want to add or? >> Um, no. I believe Mr. Slaver captured everything. >> Thank you. So with that, I would entertain a motion to move the public hearing into a public
meeting while keeping the public hearing open. >> Um is there? >> It has been moved. Is there a second? >> Second. >> It has been moved and second. The vote occurs on the motion. Mr. Greenbomb. >> Oh.
Oh. Okay. I >> and Mr. Sloder. >> I. >> Mr. Arfeld. >> I. >> Mr. Meadows >> I >> and the chair votes I. And h having gone to the site visit and
reading the application as well as reviewing um the plan that was submitted, I am in complete agreement with um Mrs. Soer that it does make sense to have it um align with the current non-conforming
um portion that is there. Um, I also would agree that doing it that way makes it more aesthetically pleasing um to the neighborhood and to gather their butters which and I would suggest that from not having any negative feedback from anyone
from their butters would suggest that you know there's no opposition. They're in line with that and I see no issues with supporting this and I would support it. >> Good. Does Mr. Alfeld
>> um I would I would also support this. Um I'm particularly persuaded by the fact that the house was built when it was built it was in compliance with the setbacks and um so we're it's I shall say
grandfathered in. Um, so I think this is a and and it's for for for reasons that have been already stated a very appropriate u modification. >> Thank you, Mr. Offeld. >> Any comments from Mr. Meadows or Miss
Greenbomb? >> No. >> No. Um, for the record, um, the town departments have until Friday, September 5th to submit comments. However, the chair will note that there have been comments made from the fire department
and the fire department has no comments or concerns regarding the portico addition to the front of 585 station road. The town engineer, the applicants will need to use caution installing the foundations, peers for the deck, their water service appears to enter through
the front of the building. A sketch was provided and shared with the applicant. Conservation based on a desktop analysis. This project appears to be outside of their jurisdiction. Um, health inspection. Um, health inspectors compared the proposed plan with the 422
2022 title 5 inspection report and found the new construction will not be located over or otherwise impact components of the on-site subsurface sewage disposal system as there is no well on the property. To that end, I will um
entertain a motion to I to make findings. Um I I will go through some findings rather and at which point once we go through the findings, I will entertain a motion that we approve the special permit tonight.
um in lie of waiting to that September 5th given that we already have comments and does not anticipate any additional comments from town staff. So we do have to make findings on this special permit and we have to start with
um >> of order. Shouldn't we talk about conditions before you make findings? I I I usually do the findings and then the conditions um as the findings dictate if it's within the bylaws and
then the conditions on approval after the >> you're defining findings different from me. Okay. >> Yes. Okay. Um so 3.250 Aquafer Recharge Protection District the property is in that district. Um 3.251
251 um and 3.252. The purpose of this district is to protect the public health by preventing contamination of the ground and source water flowing into the aquifier of the Lawrence swamp basin which is the major
water supply for the town and I do not believe there's any concerns about that. Section 3.255 drainage. The addition of the portico increased the total proposed building coverage to 9.1%.
While the total lot coverage with addition is now 17.8%. While this is permitted, the board may wish inquire how the applicant plans to address the recharge of precipitation to ground water. And I believe um one of
the conditions recommended was that there will be um gutters. And so I I think that should um answer that and we can talk about that
once we get to the conditions. Um >> you really should be doing conditions first. >> Again, Mr. Green bomb. Once we make a finding that this is within the bylaws, I think we talk about the conditions of
what we want to before we approve it. Section 3.2570 lot coverage. Um, and this requirement is not applicable. Building coverage 3.2571.
The total building coverage for this property including the proposed portico is 9.1%. Um subsection um maximum building coverage for PRP zone land less than 25%. This requirement is not applicable.
Um 3.2580 and for all uses which require either special permit or site plan review in accordance with section 3.3. The following shall be required as part of the application submission. Staff have recommended conditions to
ensure compliance with these requirements that has been met. 3.2585 staff finds that the proposal is in harmony with the purposes and intent of the section of the following reasons. The addition will provide the front
facade with relief from the elements with the proper drainage off of the portico roof and portical landing. Adequate recharge of precipitation to grounder should not be a problem. The propo section 2 of 3.285 the proposal does not negatively affect the
adequacy of the exist sewage disposal and water service systems. Section three. The proposal will not have an adverse environmental impact on any watershed, water course or water body in the ARP district during construction. Um, the
town engineer recommends the use of caution when installing the foundation peers for the deck since their water service appears to enter through the front of the building. Section 4 of 3.2585.
The proposal will not adversely affect the quality and the quantity of the water in the Lawrence Swamp Basin. Article 9, non-conforming uses and structures. 9.20. Based on the definition above, staff finds a proposal constitutes a
structural alteration increasing the nonconformity of the building. 9.20 2000 staff finds that this section does not apply. 9.201 also does not apply.
9.22 staff finds application to add the open porticle to the pre-existing nonconforming structure to be in keeping with the character of the pre-existing nonconforming structure. staff does not find that such an alteration is not substantially more detrimental to the
neighborhood than the existing non-conforming building. Specific findings under 10.38 10.380 and 381 staff finds that the proposal to be suitable located in the neighborhood and
is compatible with existing and other uses permitted by right in the same district at this time. 10.382, 83, 85, and 87. Staff finds the proposal does not
constitute a hazard to butters protecting against detrimental offensive uses, including air, water, pollution, flood, and noise. The staff finds a proposal and precautions taken during construction, will protect against detrimental uses on the site.
Provides a convenient and safe vehicular pedestrian movement within the site. This is not applicable. Additional additionally, an operations and maintenance plan dated January 31st, 2025 was provided with the application.
Section 10.384 is also not applicable. 10.386 also not applicable. 10.387 not applicable to the proposal. 10.388
not applicable to the proposal. 10.389 The proposal provides adequate methods of disposal and or storage for sewage, refuge, recyclables, and other waste resulting from the uses permitted or permissible on the site and methods of drainage for surface water. Staff finds
installation of a gutter and downspout and the temporary erosion controls during construction are adequate methods of drainage for surface water. 10.390 is not applicable. 10.391
is not applicable. 10.392 is not applicable. 10.393 has to do with lighting and therefore not applicable to this proposal as there is no additional lighting proposed for the site. 10.394
The proposal avoids to the extent feasible impact on steep slopes, flood planes, scenic views, grade changes in wetlands. This project is not found within a designated flood zone. All development will be located outside of the wetlands.
10.395 is not applicable. 10.396 also not applicable. 10.397 also not applicable. And 10.398 the proposal is in harmony with the general
purpose and intent of this bylaw and the goals of the master plan. This proposal is keeping with the general purpose and the intent of the bylaw. So based on that review um we can make a finding that this
petition is within the guidelines of the bylaws and we do have the authority to make um such findings. Um I would entertain a motion to for a vote on the findings um for this petition. Is
there such a motion? >> So moved. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Mr. Greenbomb, you are muted, but I see that you're speaking. You're still muted, Miss Green Bomb. I'm not sure if you can hear me, Miss
Greenbomb, but but you are muted. >> I'm saying I'm calling a point of order. We cannot vote on anything until we have talked about it and and written the conditions. >> We're not we're not voting to approve the special department, Mr. Greenbomb.
we are voting that it is within the >> discussed it. How can we vote? We haven't you read a list of things. We haven't discussed it. Maybe there's something to discuss. >> But I think that we should you've you've read what staff has said. We we may or
may not agree with what staff has said until we discuss it. >> We're doing things backwards. That's what I'm saying. I've done this for 40 years. Go ahead, Miss Green. What is that you like to discuss? >> I think that the everything is staff
review. Now, sometimes having had four different staff over the at least the last four years, we may or may not agree with what the staff says until we discuss it. And I think that our discussion in in a
public meeting has to happen >> before we take any votes. Do you agree? because we haven't talked about it and there are several things that are dependent on that staff has suggested and staff has made possible conditions of approval but I think we need to have
a discussion before you call any votes. >> This is your opportunity ma'am to discuss it. So what is it specifically like to discuss? I think that we need to go through all of the things you just read and and and have staff has made
recommendations, but the recommendation should not come from staff. They should come from the board and it h I mean it has happened enough over the years that I've been involved in zoning that the board doesn't always
agree with what Steph says. I don't know whether that's the case here or not until we have a chance to discuss it. But all of the the things that you read from the staff review should be that the board f made that finding and the board may want to alter some of the findings
or may have something to say and I think we need to have that opportunity to have a discussion because before you call any votes not railroad stuff through >> you you have been heard Mr. Greenbomb if I I do have Mr. Ael's hand raised and
then Mr. Sloer. Um Mr. Offeld do you have a question or comment? >> The comment I understood the process here to be that you're you're asking for a motion uh to approve the language that that has been recommended by the staff
that that be used as our language for uh for each of these items. Um and once a motion is made, there's an opportunity for discussion of that motion. So is that not uh a possibility
to to make a motion and then discuss it? >> That that is correct, Mr. Offeld. There there is that is correct. There is a dis and there's a discussion on the motion and Mr. agree bomb. If you disagree with anything the staff um that I read that the staff has highlighted as in
compliance with the bylaws, I think that is the opportunity for you to say I disagree or not agree with that. Um >> I don't want to agree to anything until we've discussed it. That's all I'm saying. >> We're we're you are getting the opportunity to discuss it, Mr.
Greenbomb, but Mr. Slo has his hand up and then we can come back to you. I have read everything about this application. I agree with every staff recommendation. I think they are all reasonable.
We are not here to discuss anything that happened in the previous 40 years that may or may not have been appropriate, but we are here to review and pass judgment on this specific application.
So I would like if we could move ahead with the motion to um approve at which point all motions are made seconded and then discussed. So rather than debate
uh whether we are failing to discuss let's actually discuss and I would like to give the chair a vote of confidence. I have noticed no railroading of any sort and I don't think that the chair is
trying to curtail discussion or give uh this consideration anything other than the attention it it deserves. So I would like to proceed with the motion that Mr. Rafel just referred to and if there is
discussion and there is specific disagreement with any of the staff recommendations then we can discuss that. I for one have no disagreement with any of it. Thank you Mr. Chair. >> Thank you Mrs. Sloder. And so
again Mr. screen bomb. Just to clarify, we will take a vote on the findings, not a vote to approve the condition. And once the motion is made, there's discussion on the motion. If there's no discussion of the motion, then we vote
to approve. And at that point, if you have objections to any of that, then we will hear your objections. My only objection is that we usually don't do findings until the end. After
you have everything else in order after you've made the actual conditions, then you can make the finding. That's the way we've always done it. You want to change it, fine. I don't Bob
just have to be adaptable and do it your way I guess because I'm being all voted but to me I would rather go through and make all the conditions and then you can make a finding that that yeah it works.
>> Mr. Meadows >> I would like to agree with Mr. Sloveter and suggest that it's up to the chair as to what sequence we will do things in here. Here here
thank you Mr. Sloer. So um to that end I would enter a motion on to approve the findings. Is there such a motion? >> So moved. Is there a second?
>> So seconded. >> The motion has been moved and second. Is there discussion on the motion? >> Well, I I'll I'll be I'll go first. I'll be quick. I just would agree with Mr. Slovener. I think the language used by
the by the staff is is just right for all of these items and would be happy to approve it as our recommendation rather than the staff review. It becomes our recommendation or our finding rather our finding.
Mayor Bob, >> I think that we need to have some um a little bit of editing of the conditions as here before we can vote to approve them. I mean, in principle, I agree with the conditions, but I'm like looking at
number one. Um there should be a a prior sentence that that the protocol will be build according to the plans presented. And then the second sentence would be any changes etc. And then in number two
where it says the town engineer has advised that would not be part of the condition but but what is advising would be the condition that >> Mr. Greenbomb I'm I'm sorry we're not voting on the conditions. We will there
will be an opportunity for you to recommend your conditions for us to discuss the conditions and add or remove conditions. >> All right. While you're talking about the findings, there are several findings that relate to the conditions which we have not approved where she is suggesting
um the couple of things about the gutters etc. A couple of things that that she is suggesting we might want to put in there. I think that that we ought to approve what she is suggesting in formal language.
In other words, I'm nitpicking over over the the editing of this thing more than the content. And I can't it's it's it's above where um there were several that that we might want to consider this gutter thing.
Well, that should not be we might want to, but we ought to go back and and and do it. the couple of things that she's suggesting that we might want to put in there. And I'd start here. I can't read it on my I'm looking for it online and
it's above the above the screen. But there are a couple of things there where staff is advising and and that should be formalized be. So we we we will have you rather we will have the opportunity to go through the
conditions and make sure that if you think a condition is appropriate it gets added and or removed. >> No, but they're in the findings that you were asking. Do we have comment about the findings? And and there a couple of places where she said we might want to
do we ought to go back and do that. That's what I'm saying. I think her comment was we may want to add these as conditions and in the findings when where I read through the findings the comment are um
the ZBA may want to consider adding these as conditions and you know and I think it it and and this adds to my point that going through the findings um if there are comments in there about conditions
we go through the findings and then discuss the conditions as recommended, whether we agree with them or not, and then come up with our own conditions or adopt their recommended. >> Is that what we're about to do? Is that what we're am I just jumping the gun? Are we about to do that? >> Yes, ma'am. You are.
>> So, we're about we we are going to vote on these findings and then we're going to go to the conditions, discuss, add, modify, and remove. And then once everyone is in agreement, then we're going to have a vote in order to approve or deny the permit.
>> Okay. So, now you're planning to go back through the conditions and we the uh the staff recommendations and we're going to talk about them each one. >> We we've never touched the conditions yet. We >> No, I'm I'm saying the staff review. We're going to go through that on the
findings. That your plan? >> No, ma'am. We're not. >> I don't All right. Do what you want to do. I don't understand, >> Mr. Slovenor. >> Um, Miss Greenbomb has even admitted
that she is nitpicking some of these conditions. Nitpicking might sometimes be useful. In the case of this application, I don't think it is. I agree with Mr. Afeld that we should
adopt the language of the staff in as our own. It all makes sense. This this proposed addition doesn't even have any new lighting,
electrical, plumbing. There's nothing on this. It's very straightforward. And I think we should streamline this discussion as much as possible. And I am um a little reluctant to say
this, but it the chair has a vote of confidence from me on how you're handling this entire meeting. So I encourage you to continue doing what you're doing. You're doing very well. Thank you.
>> Thank you, Mrs. Sloven. Mr. offel just going to add that I I think it's I I hope it's understood that as staff prepares the final documents for this and says that and and changes the staff review to the board finding on each of these items that if there's language in
the staff review that is specific to the board might consider doing XYZ that that's removed that is not part of the finding particularly that's a recommendation related to that finding but is later handled in the condition so I think we can trust that staff will uh
um figure that out. And I'll say I'm I'm the clerk of the board, so I'll help the staff do that if if if that's appropriate. >> And and and and I and I think it makes sense and and I appreciate what you're trying to say, Mr. Greenbomb, but if every petition that comes before this
board, we sit through um 8 to 10 pages of findings and go through point by point to say we agree, we disagree, we'll never approve any petitions. um at all and we're not and to Mr. Sylvia and
Mr. Al's point um you know the staff's responsibility is to go through the bylaws with us to verify that what we're doing conforms with the bylaws and the specific sections that they're in. And unless you can say to us right now that
that staff recommendation is not in compliance with 9.200 20 etc etc. I'm suggesting that we move on. >> I I am just suggesting that I don't have problems here except with the wording
the thing that have already been pointed out. I don't have a problem here but in the past sometime sometimes the staff is not necessarily correct. I don't have that problem here. But in the
past, it has been true that that they don't know things that we know or vice versa. >> But you're delaying us. I'm just saying now that that I don't want to go into it, but I I I I
just say that in this particular case, I don't have a problem with what the staff is suggesting, except that we ought to discuss discuss it and make sure that it's ours and not not staff because staff is not always 100% correct.
That's not the case here, but in the it could be. >> Thank you, Miss Williams. So, as a point of procedure in the past, if anyone has ever recommended, and I think we did this during the last
hearing, if there were changes or recommendations for changes to any of the findings, what usually happens is under the section that says staff review, I will generally implement a line that says the board approves or the board finds. And that is amended in real
time which is why I have this document open for everyone so that this becomes hold on this becomes the the the edit that goes into the decision. Um and it's not that we're making recommendations so much as we are going through we're
reviewing the bylaw and we're sharing what we have concluded our interpretation of the bylaw during our review. And if there is a different consensus with the board that is generally shared, usually shared and
then it's amended as they go through each of the sections, each of the findings. Um, it just so happens in this particular instance, no one has offered up any objections or modifications. Everybody is expressing that they're in
agreement. So, I just wanted to add that in for clarification because >> well, see, I I I didn't know how you operate. That's why I'm I'm being obnoxious because I didn't know how this operated because it's very different
than any of your predecessors have done it. So, I I appreciate that you've done a very thorough job and um it's just for me inside out, that's all. So, I I appreciate what you've done and
I I I don't have a problem with it. I just just would Anyway, I'm not going there. I've said it. >> Thank you. The the motion to approve the findings has been moved and second.
There has been a discussion. Um the vote occurs on the motion. Mr. Offeld >> I. >> Mr. Sloder, >> I. Mr. Meadows. >> Hi, >> Miss Williams.
>> I'm sorry, Miss Green. >> I don't understand what I Are we voting on the What are we voting on now? >> Is this a permit or is this just what what we've just been discussing? >> Just what we've just been discussing, not the permits, the findings. Just the
findings. >> And so, they will not be as edited. They will not be necessarily as written here. I'm going to abstain because I don't know what's going on. >> Understood. >> I want to see the finished document
before I vote. So, I'm abstaining. >> The chair votes I. The the motion passes. Now, we will discuss the conditions and then once we've gone through the conditions, I would entertain a motion to approve the
conditions um that the board has decided on. So um are there any proposed conditions that the board deems necessary? Um there are seven proposed conditions. Of course we can add all to
remove um any of these conditions as we deem necessary for this petition. Are there any proposed conditions or any issues with the proposed conditions? Well, the first one should begin with that it should be built according to the
plans presented. >> Miss Williams, can you share that with us in real time so we can see um so Mr. Greenbomb can see the modification? >> Sure. Do you want to propose specific language or is this going before condition number one? the very first
sentence the the the project should be constructed according to the plans that are approved. >> Okay. Is everyone comfortable with I'm sorry, Miss Williams. I don't know if you're typing or you're waiting for us.
>> I'm I'm finished typing. >> Okay. Is everyone comfortable with current condition number two? The town engineer has advised the applicant to use caution when installing the foundation pers to the deck and the sketch provided from the town engineer
shall be given to the contractor prior. Do we need the first sentence or should it just be the sketch or flip those two the sketch um must be provided pursuant to the town
engineers um recommendation. Well, I would put in there that regarding the um the the the I'd leave the part about the uh water service appears to enter through the
front door and um begin the sentence with the water system appears to enter through the front door and everything in front of that. Okay. >> Or just take out the town engineers advised and start where the applicant
should use caution. >> Hold on one second. Let's just see it the way that you suggested it the first time. >> Mr. Stair, >> that change is not substantive. Why don't we just leave it alone?
>> Well, because it's not a legal condition, I would say. Yeah, I I thought just give them the sketch was should be the condition, not the first sentence. >> Well, I've already given them the sketch. Um, and Miss Stafa can confirm
whether or not she's given their contractor the sketch, but I can just take that out. Hold on. >> Um, we we were provided the sketch indeed. And for clarification, the
water does not enter through the front door. It is the front of the building, but it's actually to the side um outside of the area we're actually going to be building. But that being said, Miss Williams did give me the sketch, and we are planning to share that with the
contractor prior to any work being done. >> Thank you for that. Mr. Ael, do you have your hand raised? >> I do. Um, I'm going to go back if we're done with number two. I'm happy with all the rest of them. I
just have one point on number one, and this is a topic that came up last time. I think it is substantive. Uh, and it says in the second paragraph of number one, any changes to the approved plans must be presented to the ZBA at a public meeting to to determine if the changes
are significant. And I wonder if that's good process and if we might instead um say that changes must be presented to the building commissioner to determine if they are significant and let the building commissioner decide
if they need to come back to the ZBA. >> So actually >> if it is significant enough >> I actually had a discussion with the building commissioner about this um okay >> after we met the last time. And so what's happening here is basically it's
already it's outlining a process that already happens. So we I think what's happening here people are getting confused by the language. So I can change it so that it just reads as though it's informing the applicant that they know any changes will be presented
to town staff and if town staff deems the changes to be significant then they have to appear before the ZVA to apply for a new special permit. Is that see okay I'm seeing a nod of approve? >> Yes that's I I thank you Mr. Ael because
yes we dealt with something similar in the last um here and and I think it's it wasn't very clear >> right Are there any other conditions, concerns about existing conditions? Anything
needs to be added and or removed? I see no responses. So I would entertain a motion that we approve the conditions as edited by this board. Um is there such a motion? >> So moved.
>> Second. >> Second. >> It has been moved. It has been moved and second. Is there any discussion on the motion? With no discussion, the vote occurs. The chair votes I. Mr. Slovder I. >> Mr. Meadows. >> I.
>> Mr. Offeld >> and Miss Greenbomb. >> Hi. >> The motion has been approved. I will now entertain a motion to approve ZBA
FY. I'm I'm missing the number. um um 585 Station Road um for approval on ZBA FY2026-2 and this is to approve the special um
permit with the findings and the conditions. Um is there such a motion? >> So moved. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> It has been it has been moved and second. Is there any discussion on the motion?
The vote occurs. Um, Mr. Slovder >> I, >> Mr. Meadows, >> I, >> Mr. Greenbomb, >> I, >> Mr. Offeld, >> I, >> and the chair votes I. ZBA FY2026-02585
Station Road special permit has been approved. Um, Miss Melina, congratulations and good luck on your portico. >> Thank you. So, I appreciate um the committees taking the time today to debate this. >> You're very welcome and thank you for your patience.
I will now entertain a motion to close the public um hearing and meeting for ZBA FY2026-2585 Station Road. >> Is there it has been moved. Is there a second? >> It has been moved and second. The vote
occurs on the motion. Mrs. Ser >> I >> Mr. Afeld >> I >> Mr. Greenbomb >> I >> Mr. Meadows >> I >> and the chair votes I that hearing has been closed.
As we do with each meeting are there any public comments on anything not before the ZBA tonight? Do we even have an audience? Miss Williams, >> we have an audience of one and I don't
see them raising their hand. >> So that's a no. >> A no. >> No comments. >> And then we can with no with no public comment. Then are there any other business not anticipated within the last
48 hours? I don't have anything. >> And with nothing, we shall look ahead onto our calendar. Miss Williams. >> Yes. One moment. Okay. Can everyone see that? >> Great.
>> Yes. >> So, coming up we have 65 High Street on the 11th of September and our panel for that is a full panel of the full members. Um so Slovador Meadows Alfeld
Henry and White and then for the 25th we do not have any petitions scheduled. Um anybody coming in now would have to wait until October because they've missed the deadline for legal ads and just for the application deadline itself. Um so I was
going to ask if the board wanted to vote to cancel that meeting on the 25th just because we wouldn't have any reason to meet. Um, but that is our schedule as it stands at the moment. >> Thank you, Miss Williams. I think that makes sense. If there's nothing I mean,
if we are without with if we're past the time standards, um, then it makes sense that we do not have that meeting since no one can put anything on 9:25. Um, so I would entertain a motion to cancel um the prior scheduled meeting of
9:25. Is there such a motion? So moved. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> It has been moved and seconded. Is there any discussion on the motion? >> I will just note that I'm unavailable for that meeting any for that date
anyway. So uh this is very convenient. >> So I vote I would approve this motion. >> Thank you Mr. Alpha. Um the vote on the motion. Miss Greenbomb. Um I
>> Mr. Sloer >> I >> Mr. Meadows >> I >> Mr. Offeld and the chair votes I. The schedule meeting for September 25th is officially cancelled with no
petitions pending and we are now outside the time standards for submission. To that end it is um 7:41. I would entertain. Um, Mrs. Slovir, >> I have one comment to make. Um, this is
on the on September 11th, we are scheduled to meet about High Street and there was a an email circulated from Miss Williams about another site visit and I believe that the chair
thought we should visit. I don't know what has changed, but I would just like to communicate since we're not supposed to communicate outside of meetings that I'm ambivalent about this, but Mr. Chair, if you think we should go back, I
will be happy to accompany you. >> I I I'm I'm still trying to understand what if any changes are there, and that's why I thought maybe if people had an opportunity to go and and I'm happy to go and >> there's a parking there's a parking change Okay.
>> From from the last time, that's the only thing I know of. >> So, you know, it's it's time. And if people don't need the time, um, and Mrs. Slover, if you have the time, I'm happy to go with you. I do want and see if there's something they want to add the
the applicant rather. Um, but if it's also inconvenient for the applicant, Miss Williams, I don't want to inconvenience them because again, this came before came to us before. I haven't brought it up with them just because
>> I just wanted to make sure don't wouldn't Mr. Alfield want to see the building since it was an issue before. >> Thank you, Miss Greenbell. Uh I uh was asked if I needed to see it and I felt
that the the uh plans that were available and and an outside visual inspection would be adequate. So, I didn't feel the need for a site visit myself. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> And I'm actually ambivalent about it. I'm just willing and I'm deferring to
the chair because I sort of sensed that he might be interested. That was the only reason. I don't there's no compelling reason that I'm aware of. >> There isn't. and I may just go the route of Mr. offel and just drive there and
see um if again if people are comfortable with the information that is already available then no we don't necessarily need to do something um that warrants everyone to coordinate schedules and with the applicant. Yeah.
>> Okay. Thank you. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> So just to confirm that's a no for the site visit. >> Yes. Okay. So, the P I'm going to actually send that to you all um this evening, I think, or no, I'm going to wait because
I need to talk to one more person within town staff to clarify their notes, but it will be sent to you. If not tomorrow, then on Monday, you'll have it at least like a week before the actual hearing. So, >> don't forget, you don't work on Monday,
so don't work on Monday. >> Oh, that's right. Yeah. Never mind. Thank you for that reminder. >> You're welcome. >> Right. The chair just gave you the day off. >> Yeah. >> So, um if there are no additional
topics, um I would entertain a motion to adjourn tonight's meeting and it is a non-debatable motion. Is there such a motion? >> So moved. >> Has been moved. Is there a second? Second.
>> It has been moved and second. The vote occurs on the motion. Mr. Offeld, >> yes. >> Mr. Green, Mr. Kbomb, >> I. >> Mr. Slovder, >> I. >> Mr. Meadows, >> hi.
>> And the chair votes I. Thank you all for being here. And we are adjourned. >> Thank you. >> Have a great weekend everyone. Be safe. Thank