Good morning. It's time to start the meeting. Uh May 14th, 2025. Call the DRC meeting to order. Uh we will start with roll call. Community development is present. Police. Mike McKinley. public
works present fire department Jeremy Holderfield and building John Hans here too and I'll just remind everybody the meeting is being live streamed so anything you say uh is recorded and streamed live all right we have a walk-on special event this morning and
recreation is Here. Lexi, they need you to turn your mic on. Um, and then the parade will proceed down 10th Street. It'll turn on to Marvin Z. Xanders Avenue, continue along um, Marvin C. Xanders crossing over Michael Gladen Boulevard, and then turn
left onto Sixth Street. And then from there it'll continue to 10th Street and end at Alonzo Williams. Any questions for Lexi? Have they been informed that they are going to have to pay for offduty police
officers to block streets and intersections? Well, I just don't want to wait until I want to make sure they're notified as soon as we can because um sometimes we don't notify the vendor or get them hooked up with roll call until like a week or so before the event. Yeah. uh this is going to be
extremely costly to them and I want to make sure they're weighing the pros and cons of this event especially if they're only expecting a hundred people. We need to make sure that they understand that I think it's 10 to 15 police officers to do a rolling roadblock for their parade
and we want them to be successful, don't get me wrong, but I want to make sure that you know they know now what they're facing in cost uh to incur to to do this parade. Yeah, I know they are aware that they have to pay off duty. I just don't know if they are aware of the amount.
Can you work with them to make sure they're have some kind of idea what this amount's going to be for us to be able to uh assist them with the parade? Mhm. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions? Community development has nothing further, please. Anything
additional? I don't have anything else. Thank you. Uh public works, fire, no comments. Thank you. Building, nothing. Thanks. All right. Thank you, Lexi. Thank you. Okay. Uh, first item under construction
site plan, mid Florida Logistics Park, construction site plan, First Net Amirus, project manager. Good morning, everyone. So, uh, this is a just a modification to the storm drainage pipe system. This is already an approved uh CSP for the warehouses. So, it's just a
modification to the stream storm drainage pipes. So, planning and zoning has no further comments or questions. Okay. Any questions? Uh, the applicant, is the applicant in attendance this morning? They they told me that they can't attend this morning. Okay. Any
questions in regards to this? Well, I guess the applicant is not here. Little confusing. Turn your mic on. Yes. Uh, I guess the applicant is not here. Um I can't address any question directly to the applicant. Uh it wasn't
clear. I the narrative says that it's only construction modification to the stormwater system that everything has been previously approved but the submittal contains all the pages and it's really counterintuitive to kind of
dissect what is new, what is wrong. So maybe we need to talk to them and see if they can re-upload what are the actual changes to it. Okay. Yeah, we could we can relate that. Yeah. At one point, weren't they supposed to like whatever you call
balloon whatever the changes were so that we could identify them in all these changes when they need to be clouded. So basically, you know, if it's cloud whatever he wants. But I think that I see that more and more. you know, there's changes, but we can't find the changes because they're not being
clouded or whatever you want to call it, and we need to get back to that practice so that we can find out what the changes are, right? Yeah. And it's not really explained in narrative. It's just We will let them know. We'll let them know. Any other questions or comments?
All right. Community development has nothing further other than asking for clouds or blooms or whatever you want to call it. Well, we need to make sure it's from everybody that submits changes because it's just too complicated to try to figure out. If he can't find it, you darn sure know I can't find it. Yeah.
And I've got an applicant because it includes everything, utilities and transportation features and all that, but most of them it looks like it's not applicable. So, yeah. No, to be quite frank, when I we first got this in, I thought this was an actual CSP review until the applicant let me know that,
oh, this is just the artist is already approved. This is just a modification. So, I I get that. Yeah, I'll we'll let Okay. And I've got an applicant who's fighting with me about providing requested changes to an annexation agreement. Um like need information
before we can move forward. So it's not fair to the DRC if we have to guess on things also. So uh fire. No comments. Thank you. All right. Building. I don't have anything. Thank you. All right. Amir, you're up again. 451 Commerce Park
Security Fence. So, this is a security fence that is 6 feet tall, aluminum, and uh it's in an already existing industrial complex at 650 Marshall Lake Road. Feature land use is industrial, zoning is industrialized. Staff and applicant are available for further
comments or questions. All right. Is the applicant in attendance? Right. Would you like to address the DRC? Good morning. Uh Kate Bader with Kimley Horn. Um I think most of these are pretty straightforward. we need to add a cover sheet and provide
you guys a little bit more detail on the mechanical actual function and what the fence is going to look like. So, we can definitely do that. Um, and then I think we got some comments this morning about making sure we're protecting any underground utilities. So, we'll we'll
make sure that um that's noted on the site plans for the contractor. I think really two questions. um one for the site data table since this is existing what specifically are you guys looking for? Uh basically um the the whatever is
you know the the setbacks and then you know the zoning future basically what was original what would originally would have been put for the CSB if this was if it was the warehouses that were going in. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Property, you know, it's everything. Yeah. Okay. That's fine. We just don't want to give
you more information than you needed for an existing facility. But we can recreate that. That's definitely that's easy. Um and then I think really the last thing was just um for fire access. So the I guess the plan west side of the truck
court will be secured, but we'll provide a NOX box um for fire department access if that checks that box or if you're looking for something more specific. Yeah, I just need to know that we have access to your building. I I just see a gate. I don't I mean I go out and travel
to look at it if I needed to to see where our FDC locations, our hydrant locations and everything's at. I can't get cornered in where we can't get to that stuff. So the gate location needs to be more descriptive to what I can where the stuff's at. I can see. Um I can drive out and take a peek at what you're trying to accomplish, but like I
just had a lot of questions. We're going to put a gate up and I was kind of Yeah, I kind of made the same comment because it seemed seems like you have still significant distance from the gate to the end of the building. I wasn't sure that's going to And this gate's not powered either. Is it just It will be
our understanding is it will be powered, but we can provide or we can get additional like specifications from the owner and provide those to you guys so you know exactly what will be out there. Okay. Yeah. All right. Um and we can note on the site plan like where the
existing hydrants FDC and all that stuff are so you guys can clearly see where that is in relation to the gate. And then we'll also note um the Knox box to be added to make sure there's fire department access and that sort of stuff as well. Perfect. Thank
you. Um anything else we ask? Okay. Okay. I think that's it. All right. Any additional questions for the applicant? Hearing none. Community development has nothing further. Police. I don't have anything. Thank you. Public works. No additional comments. Fire. No
comments. No comments. Thank you. Building any I don't have anything. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Last item 357 West 4th Street. Amir. So this is a resubmitt for a uh 20,250 square ft warehouse office.
Future land use is industrial and zoning is industrial light and uh staff and applicant are available for further questions and comments. Okay. Mr. Cooper. Um, seems like I guess there was a disconnect between what we've got with
the red lines on it and what you had uh thought was submitted. So, I guess there's some changes between what you submitted and what we have in the red lines. Do you want to resubmit the clean copy or how do you want to proceed? I
just need you to come up here. I have the clean copy right here. What copy did you get? Did you get the one familiar with with all those red marks on it? Uh, I'd have to double check and see. It was a resubmitt. I'd have to double check and see, but I reviewed uh, you know, cuz that's got a lot of red
marks on it. Yes, it seems like the files were uploaded on the March 25th, I believe. So, that was probably the original. That could be the original. Yes. But there are no new submitts there. New There was a
resubmitt file, I think, in April, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that that's the one I reviewed. Yeah, but not all the files are re-uploaded. There's Well, if it was if it was submitted in April, then he's got to have it. Yeah, it was included
everything from what I remember. It was all under one file, one set should have been April. April. Yeah. Yeah. April, April 24th and April 28th was the D stormwater self
selfcertification. Now these are only the comments. It doesn't say unset. Let's see cuz it it was the resubmitt that I reviewed but and how come he didn't receive it? No, I mean this is what's in
the maybe they're improperly named. what was submitted. It says science seal development plan said March 24th cuz I know I wouldn't re submit anything with a bunch of red marks on it. I've been dropped too many times.
Uh Bobby, do we have a certain nomenclature? What's the project number? Uh it's called I mean if you look it up 357 West 4th Street that's uh uh C CSP 2510. I have it written. Okay. Yeah. 357
Westport. Yeah, that one. CSP. See an annexation. Oh, no. It was on the It was on the search bar if you went 357 West for Street. When you And it's it would show CSP when you type it in. Uh yeah, CSP. The third one. Yeah,
that one. CSP25-10. And then if you do attachments, if you go attachments, go under. It's like in the bottom. That was the first submitt. So if you go down down down, it's the it's it's that one. The
the second last one there is. Okay. So appears that it's there. It just wasn't titled properly. Yeah, but it can open it. When you when you try to open it, it has some extension URL. That might be an IT issue then if if you
can't open it on your computer. I was able to open it just fine on my iPad. Yeah. Yeah, I opened it as well. Yeah. And this ain't been in here for a month. It's ridiculous. Okay. So, why don't we do this then? So,
we establish the fact that the plan is here. Um, it looks like the nomenclature is just a PDF, so it wasn't there. So, what we can do is go back and retitle it. Yeah. Construction site
plan. Second, submittal. Okay. And then if you're okay with it, Mr. Cooper, let the reviewers have like a couple days to take a look at it if that works for you. Well, what I don't have a choice, do I? I mean, I need to get this job approved. You know, it's we've been dragging this
thing out now for for almost four months now. Additional comments. We made your comments. We made the change and you approved them and he's cool. Bobby, just a suggestion. A lot of times when they upload new new things, it'll
just they probably don't really understand how to rename stuff. I think what we need to do is look at the dates. That's what I do of when stuff is when if there's a new submitt or five. There might only be one item. Yeah. But just look at the latest date this middle and
Yeah. Yeah. Well, we can't keep searching for everything. It goes the same with the plan chief. It's not searching for everything. There's like four or five items he uploaded in April. I mean, how hard is that to look at? Well, and then you got you got this. The revision file is not open. He has the
wrong extension. Can, and you know more about this, John, than I do, but can we create a folder that just says site plans and then they're labeled by date of when they were submitted so we can look at the latest one there because to scroll all the way down here after you've gone because I would have gone to
the first one like apparently Vladimir has to see the set plans. That's the one I'm looking for. I would have never looked at what we could do is if you do a new submitt, you could delete the the other one. You can take the You know what I'm saying? If you did a revised
plan you guys delete the first one you don't want it because we'll have this discussion at another time I think offline that's a good where we can come up with a system um but right now let's just solve Mr. Cooper's problem for him and um I mean
we've got the plans here we can retitle it construction site plan second metal and then Vlad if you and Jeremy can take a look at it. Yes definitely. Yeah. And we'll get you the comments in an expeditious manner if that works for you.
And on the sanitary sewer, you made a couple comments about in accordance to Orange County and stuff like that. Uh I can give you the state requirement. If you want me to do that, I can put that in the portal or I can submit it to you for sanitary sewer because that's what
we've been going by for years. And uh uh I don't know, you know, to go back and we got to go back. There's a lot of work to go back and reinvent all this stuff. Vlad, are you okay with like meeting with Mr. Cooper separately to talk about
his comments? That's what we kind of discussed. Okay. Yes. But then what I can do as far I can work with Vladimir, but we can get it since he's already approved everything and building and the chief and and basically Jeremy, we got a few things we got to do
for you, but uh you want to increase that potable water line from an 8 in to a 10 in. I don't even know if you got a a 10 inch out there or a 12 inch along Forest Street. It might be just a 12 I mean an eight and we can't tie a 10 into a an eight. No. Yeah, I understand that.
I think we need to go we need to look at the new submitt and see because some of these comments may be obsolete because they're they were made based on the on the other submitt. Okay. And I I'd like so we need to see what the differences are. I like to use what we're call I've been doing this for 25 30 years right
here in the city of PA and we have never had a problem and you know if if I put something on the drawings you know it I know it's going to be accord and I've always done that and so you know point of connection there was a
comment on here about the point revise the point of connection well the point of the connection to me is where we connect our system to your system that's a point of connection to me so Mr. Cooper, here's what we can do. We'll try to open. For some reason, that revision
file is not opening. Uh, we'll you couldn't open it, right? Okay. We need to see. We need to maybe re-upload that new submitt. Okay. Then we'll compare our comments. Hopefully by the end of the day, I'll get with my team and we'll eliminate what is not applicable and
we'll reach out to you probably sometime tomorrow and go over some of the comments. Will that work? Just do me a favor. be realistic about what we're after. If I'm at if I'm doing something that's actually incorrect, then that's one thing. But for me to have to go back
and revise everything like we're talking about here, we're talking to get val engineer val tailor engineering in on it and go through all the calculations that we have to do. That ain't going to be a five minute job. Now, I do have the survey. You
asked for a survey on the the north uh utilities. I do have that's no problem. Most of the things are somewhat can get pretty deep. Okay. We'll Yeah, we'll look at the new
submitt because some of these may have already been addressed in those. Okay. All right. Thank you very much. That way we can get with me and then we're going to when will we get the uh approval be the next meeting or can we do that with today and with based upon doing working
with Val on the meeting the pre-construction meeting? We'll have everything to him by the pre-construction meeting. Yeah. If everybody's okay with the comments if they're minimal, we I don't think he would need to come back for another DRC meeting. Would you? Well, yeah. I mean, if all our concerns
are satisfied, yeah, absolutely. Okay. We can just do the approvals through email. Or if there's only just a department that has comments outstanding, just like one department, is the DRC okay with him not having to come back and just handle that through that department? Place is fine with that. Okay. All right. Yeah, we're good
with that, too. Okay. Does that work for you? Yeah. Okay. All right. also CC me in the email as well. So that that way like when I know that all the departments are you know approved then we can start with the I think all the departments are approved with exception of public service right? Yeah yeah
that's why I'm saying CC correspond me with those emails and then I can like once I see that the the public service is done then we can start the process of signatures. Okay. When do you think I'll get your revised spark up? As long as this resubmitt is available,
I think we can probably by the end of the day we can go over the comments and clear up some of that. Can you make sure that he has the latest? Can you do that? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can I can even send it to email as well. Okay. Just just make sure he It may have to be renamed because it has an URL extension
and for some reason it's not open. I can download it's we also have it in our planning and zoning folder as well. So I can email it to you a PDF file if needed. Yeah. Okay. But we still need to make a correction in open gap so it's always
available. Yeah. Okay. Okay. All right. Anything else? Okay. I'm cool. Okay. All right. As soon as I get those, I'll mark them up and then you know you can we can work together and make sure Vimir's happy and
we're all happy with we can then you can do the side. Okay. All right. I didn't cause I didn't mean to cause any trouble, but you know, I'm glad nobody else is in here. Always a pleasure, Mr. Cooper. All
right, any items for discussion? We're adjourned.