we'll call the 16th of April development review committee meeting to order we'll start with roll call community development is present police Mike McKinn public works uh Vladimir Simonoski city engineer present fire
jeremyville and building John Hans two okay uh the first two items are future land use amendment and a resoning it's the same project it's the Summit Wolf Wolf Lake Ranch and Jean Sanchez's project good morning everyone this is a proposed
comprehensive plan amendment as well as a reasonzoning for the summit at Wolf Lake Ranch as you can see this is west of Bonan Pines Road um north of Bonan and this is essentially kind of a third phase of the Wolf Lake Ranch subdivision
um right now I think Wolf the Roseville phase 2 has um undergone all entitlements well almost all except for maybe construction site plan um and this one is going through essentially the same process um if you remember
um it's kind of almost planned to connect where um along Palamp and Pines Road there's an access planned on Wolf Lake Ranch phase 2 so it makes sense um to do this but we're not up to the site plan process yet this is just a future
land use amendment from mixed use which is um on a normal part of the city not north of Bonan and west of Rock Springs would permit up to 15 units per acre but we do have a policy that restricts it at two dwelling units per acre therefore
they just want to make it um compliant with our comp plan policy and go to residential very low suburban at two dwelling units per acre and uh zoning from mixeduse eastshore gateway
to residential single family i think it's 2B is that right which is a little bit of the larger lots um and matches uh the other two faces of Wolf Lake Ranch i didn't get any
um huge comments we did have um public a a constituent reach out to us and I'll let the applicant address that but also we did we did also get one comment from police um in regards to the impacts on
the intersection of Punk and Pines and Bonan Road um if there's any additional questions I'll try to answer them but I defer the rest of my time to the applicant um my name is Tina Damasy um 400 International Parkway sweet 470 um Lake
Mary Florida MI Homes of Orlando um we're the applicant um Bill Mackey good afternoon bill Mackey Design Group 913 North Pennsylvania i'm the applicant um one of the questions that came up at our community meeting was from the neighbors you can see it at the top the
I don't know if you can Can you point to it when you do it those three the three houses there um the Kenderly family um and I actually zoom back out just so you um they um as part of our plan kind of when we did our preapp um when we did
phase one we had to build um expand Pon Pines Road to be a 60oot rideway for the full length of our um site um when phase two came in all of the property for Pon Pines's road is actually part of Flet's property which is in the phase three so
we were only able to do the emergency access the um 20 foot within the easement that we had um because we didn't have the full rideway to build in a full road um now that we have phase three um um during our preapp it was indicated that we would have to construct Punk and Pines Road all the
way up to the north um with that we expect the city's going to want um a culde-sac a tea some kind of fire department turnaround um the neighbor the Kennerlys um they're the end of the road down there and they have a gate midway through um they kind of made it
their own property I guess because a lot of people are coming up and turn around up in their property so they've asked that we not construct the road for the full length um I said why don't and the city wants this right away can probably be dedicated regardless if it's where it's developed to um so we just wanted
to whether you guys want to have that conversation here if you guys want us to do a separate preop just to discuss the road we can do that but um we wanted to go ahead and open up that conversation now because we're moving into our MDP and we want to you know you know obviously address the concerns presented
by the neighborhood but we're going to do whatever the count city and the county everybody tells us to do so um but you know we there's options and we're just want to say that we're flexible depending on what you guys decide well I'll start i went out there yesterday and the gate across the road needs to be removed um second off if you
don't improve that road then we have limited access to the emergency exit from phase two for the fire department to get down there so the road's got to be improved because if it's not improved now then it's the city's responsibility in the future to pay for it and right
now it should be the developer's responsibility to pay for it not the city of Popka and our residents so I think we stick to the plan the road goes to where it's supposed to go to it gives the fire department a substantial base an adequate road to go to the emergency exit for phase two which is being
changed off a pond can yeah and that's only like 100 ft north so that that's that's easy but they can move their fence back to their property um they don't have I don't think they have a legal standing to gate a rideway where they've gated it at this particular
point in time i understand their concerns and it's something that you know as a police department we're going to have to deal with uh I'll let the fire department address how the road ends so that they can turn around if they have to go down there for some reason um but it's my position that that road needs to be extended to your
development u so that the city of Aka doesn't incur that cost in the future that's what we said at the community meeting but we said we would ask and he called the city and and and again I understand their concerns uh but it's it's got to be done so that we can reach the emergency access it's going to be
for phase two of your other subdivision and the city should not have to pay for your developments to do that road in the future because if it's not done now then it's incumbent upon us to pay for that in the future and we have enough things we need to pay for without having to pay
go back and pay for something else in the future uh I do know that I made a comment about the line of sight i went out there yesterday i'm okay with the line of sight i think it's it's fine it's better than what I thought it was i hadn't been out there in a little bit i think the um expansion of the rideway there and the that really kind of opened
things up in that area uh so I'm not concerned about the line of sight i am concerned about the um school zone sign uh it was my understanding I thought under phase one and then phase two that that was going to be a flashing light that worked when the school zone was
active because now you have all these people coming off of Ponam Pines onto Pon Road and they don't know when the school zone is active mhm so I think that sign needs to be changed to a flashing light consistent with the two flashing lights at the other ends of the
school zone on Ponan Road so that when your neighbor when your homeowners come off of Ponam Pines they understand that is an active school zone at that particular point in time so not just this little yellow sign there that you can miss when they right turn out onto
from Pon Pines onto Ponkin Road when they right turn out there that's where the flashing sign should be you know I want it on pond camps where the current there's a current little yellow one there that is very easy to see miss i want it there so when they're coming off pond campine whether they turn right or
left they know that that's an active school zone at this particular point in time until they get to the end of school zone signs as it is right now like T is saying I actually happen to live in Waka Run which is across the street from me as Waka Run comes down and camps on the
same direction the signage is on to my left i can't tell if I'm in a school zone or not any neighbor leaving there has no idea when they're in a school zone or not and you're going to have the same problem upon camp high coming out the same way so the signage while it's facing the opposite direction and they can't tell when it's actually school time okay i mean I think I don't think
you have to run power to them anymore they're all solar powered and timers and and everything else but I think it does need to be improved i don't think the current one is sufficient and we have our um our CSP coming in for phase two so we can look at that with that you know as part of this so we don't have to
wait till this one okay so that's all the comments I have thank you any other questions or comments for the applicant yes on Pumpkin Pine since that's going to be it's currently a public road yes sir it's going to be designated as a public road all the way
to the north end so there's no gate that can be placed in a public right now it's just an easement so he has an easement on private property so it's not from correct north of where our where the road ends today is um is just
easement yes correct okay but upon um phase three it will become public road and be constructed to the top okay while while we're speaking on the road what is the the end point for the fire department turn around are you guys doing roundabout what's the Have you guys looked into that yeah we're looking
at a roundabout the fire truck we I mean we have the fire truck we have the We have a fire truck um Cath Felter Kimley Horn 200 South Orange um we have here a fire
truck we put the fireart in there as well take a little bit out of this lot too big okay oversized um so we have itched so this would be phase three i got somebody over here correct this is the one that's on
the phase two so this is Yes so the points are and then one guy so access will continue to be here yeah so then this will be the little
what other access for us there's one to the south so for this phase three itself yes so um that was going to be a part of our discussion in the master plan okay we can bring
up just get with me offline probably best to discuss that because I just All right that's fine my only thought is obviously we'll discuss that later how many houses we're adding to that third phase along with the first and second phase that's a lot of
properties on Pon Pines with our only entrance into all three phases on Pon Pines there's no other way in there besides that road so it's always a worry for me with the amount of houses we're putting in that area yeah i think you have curbing gutter and
sidewalks all right that's what I questions okay anything else community development has no further questions or comments police i don't have anything else oh public works
public works vladimir vladimir vladimir do you have anything else uh no this fired no other comments all right in building I don't have anything thanks all right thank you very much next item on the agenda is the plat for
Orlando Popka Center First Middle and Amir is the project manager [Music] good morning everyone this is a plat application for a um warehouse um at um the um Orlando Popka Commerce Center
it's just south of US 441 west of 429 and the feature land use is industrial and zoning is PD uh the applicant was sent comments from both the legal and surveyor and uh staff and applicant are available for further comments and
questions any questions of Amir or the applicant or the applicant these are all existing industrial buildings located north of the Bobby one question that I have is u uh the Apabco Logistics Parkway it's now
private correct uh it's private because the dedication is not clear it says dedicated to and then it needs to be maybe the language needs to be refined a little bit there okay is the applicant in attendance yes okay if you wouldn't mind coming and addressing the comments
from the DRC good morning everyone sam Sabali with Florida Engineering Group and I have with me Kurt Ardan he is the attorney for the project and Joe Thompson who is the owner's representative um and we have a couple of
clarifications but you know we'll start i think you had a question for me maybe i'm glad you had a question about the road yes so uh I again I'm coming late i know this is already built we're just at a plot point right uh just
wanted to make sure that the road because it wasn't clear in the in the legal description is it private or public and it seems to be private right so we need to make sure that the language is included there all the roadways or you know they're
mainly driveways inside of the development all of them are private and we do have note number five on the face of the plat which uh states you know they're all easements so there is no dedication to the public and we have
included with the submittal um the restrictive covenants which you know set forth you know all the uh maintenance requirements and obligations for the lot owners so nothing within this plat is dedicated to the public
including including Wesley Road correct uh that's correct okay because Wesley is internal only to the site correct correct correct correct correct correct correct and the and the project of butts of Popka Logistics Parkway but it is not inclusive of that road it just fronts it
yes yes thank you and uh I think we had a question two questions one of them was about the dedication which I think was comment number eight uh so just wanted to clarify that one it had uh you know question about the dedication and I
think there was a question about the legal authority of uh Mr honesty to sign and Mr arman can address that yes thank you all very much kurt Ardan with the Fishback Dominic uh law firm 1947 Lee Road Winter Park Florida 32789 um with
with respect to the uh dedication that's that's on the PL there there's not going to be u any dedication to any public agency because it is the responsibility of the four lot owners to maintain repair replace everything internal to
the property and all of the internal roadways the walls uh all the water the portable waters storm water so there's no burden on the public with respect to that with resp so so that's a good question so there will not be a dedication to to the public or to the
city or anybody else with respect to that it's all internal with respect to who signs the document as you can see on the first page of the plat the owner of the property is West Exit Wesley Land LLC but then it is signed by uh three
entities below that it's a typical corporate tiered process uh we have the authority for the man listed on here Jason Honesty as the person that can bind the property owner exit Wesley Land
LLC if that's sufficient we're happy to do that we're happy to discuss that with your city attorney or if need be we could get a separate document for each one of those entities saying each one has the right to bind the one above it it's really a choice for you all i would suspect that your city attorney will pro
probably be the one that will ask uh or be able to answer that question for us yeah definitely we can consult with him typically it will be whoever at the point of recording is owning the property and then it will go to the assignees after okay yes great thank you
any other questions for the applicant just have one observation it says preliminary plat we don't do preliminarily plat preliminary plats here if you just remove that note from there we will do that um are we expecting any additional comments from
the city surveyor or are these all the comments we are all the comments currently from both the legal and the surveyor okay great yes we'll go ahead and address them and we will remove the preliminary i think the preliminary was meant from the surveyor to us that he
didn't finalize it but I understand thank you okay we'll go around community development has nothing further police i don't have anything thanks uh public works uh no other questions fired no comments building i don't have anything thanks all right thank you gentlemen
next item 1770 Sheila Road major development plan first middle is the project manager this is a um major development plan for 18 single family homes and 24 duplexes um future land use is residential low and uh zoning is
residential two family and the staff and applicant are here for further questions and comments just add this is the one that's next to the police department's gun range i know uh there have been meetings on site between the police department planning um and I believe the
former city engineer about the design of the project applicant is here as well so with that we'll turn it over to the applicant joshy not 200 South Orange Avenue with Kevin Horn here to answer any questions anybody
have any questions for the applicant no I don't have anything i know that he wants to discuss with us the BM design and Vladimir and I will try to stay as long as we can afterwards to look at what your proposal is and make sure it's going to be sufficient for the city as it moves forward all right
so I know this is an MDP now but as soon as we get into the construction revision plans we need to address the storm water yes the storm water my concern will be I see that what is proposed now is to put that
pond in the northeast section right of the property and then to build a retaining wall correct so the pond that is actually kind of shared between this property and the subdivision to the north so that's going to be critical to see what is the capacity there most likely you cannot combine them because
of the elevational difference but uh that we will we will have to take a closer look at that and I'm looking forward to see the stonewater report on that okay yeah and perhaps like a meeting offline for that specifically to understand the methodology you want us
to show with that would be would be good especially with that pond it's not a permitted pond by the any agency right now so um so so that's an old subdivision correct most likely it's not permitted by San Jones correct maybe you can you can look a little bit deeper
into maybe some old DP data mhm that they have on that it's uh my concern is it seems like it could be a landlock there it doesn't look like it goes anywhere just from just brief observation but that's something you're going to have to investigate and I'll take a closer look at it as well yeah
and when within our investigation it is a a landlocked lake um if anything that would stage up and then go toward towards the subdivision along the east side okay so north on on the what's on
the screen right here um so our current design is retaining the whole 100redyear storm okay um so but definitely with we'll set up a meeting to talk about storm water specifically and what you're
going to be looking for from from us there okay uh when we at storm water I had another question i see you put only two inlets on each of the roads i'm maybe on the wrong page let me see
you remember what sheet that's on uh I'm trying to open it let's see is this it six C6 this is going to be Well let let's start with the utility plans first while I'm there uh C7.0 uh you show the lift station but
you don't show the connection to the force man now the forceman is currently on the west side of the road but you're going to do widening there for the right turn lane correct and also for the left turn as well um northbound so that will
basically the forcemen and the waterman will remain under the future pavement it seems like uh correct that we need to make sure that we have enough clearance that we have um enough vertical separation for that the road or the load
is not going to impact in any way these two utilities if that becomes a question we may have to go into relocation slightly moving it further into the rightway uh that triggers another question here with the right turn lane southbound going into the first entrance
right to the north uh which you're going to have to deal this section of the road is still uh operated and maintained by Orange County so you will need to have a rightaway permit with Orange County my concern is the right turn lane it seems like you're showing it right at the
rightway line so I assume that they're going to require some additional rightway there correct for yeah to have some separation also the sidewalk will need to be put in frontage of the entire length of the project it's going to have to tie into the south sidewalk just on
the south where the church is they have it up to the property line so you're going to have to extend it all the way to the end of your north uh end of the property right okay so that's going to be an issue you may not have enough buffer for that little swivel of the
pond so you may have to work on that section of the pond maybe redesigning that to to have a proper buffer and burn for maintenance and um definitely to fit the sidewalk there and and and it may be a dedication for a for a sidewalk
may come to it i'm not sure what the county approach is going to be on that right right if it's going through the city I would probably suggest that as an option okay personally right but I don't know what the county is going to is going to ask at this point so yeah those are the few things on the
uh on the utility and the rightway issue uh the one the south entrance uh that you have it's riding right out but you only have striping there that section is very dangerous there because of the elevational differences the visibility
is pretty bad right so there are two options here we can look into and again the county is going to have the ultimate determination right I'm just suggesting you know the strip area can be a raised median concrete median that can make it safer and of course proper signage
there's going to be no left turn right only uh the other option will be if they want to keep it as it is then we're going to require inside at the main at the entrance on this uh particular access point uh like a pork chop another raised medium right so we make it safe
that way because the tendency will be it seems like you have enough clearance right and people will try to cut through and make a left turn there we just want to make sure that we protect that because it's very dangerous and there's been I don't know mike probably chief probably knows there's probably some
accident there over time to be honest with you I don't even remember this south exit what has it always been there yes or I thought it was internal loop at one point i think we're required to have two I believe right you were going to have to have an emergency exit or something but I don't remember this loop
and I'm concerned that you know I think it needs a raised median because to be honest with you the pork chops don't work uh they drive over them they drive around them and we have a significant amount of accidents at Cleveland and Sheieler just down the road uh and the traffic along Sheila Road is getting
worse and now we have another subdivision planned a little bit further south of our firearms range which is going to add more capacity to Sheiler Road and it's only going to become worse so um I think it needs to be a raised median there to prevent them and with
enough of a curb going to the north to stop them from wanting to slide that way too against the flow of traffic right otherwise it it's a significant safety hazard uh to come out of there the pork chops don't work they never have they
never will um they find their ways to start to go right and then just flip left and and cut across traffic and everything okay um and so the raised median we'll look into that and talk with Orange County on that i know they'll have the
ultimate say on what goes inside of the road um but we'll we'll definitely have those talks with Orange County yes uh going back to the grading plan I see that West End where you have the additional parking there for the amenity
i'm assuming that's going to be like a playground or a pool maybe there i don't know what is exactly the plan now it seems behind the parking lot and behind the amenities seems pretty steep uh slope going from the adjacent
properties into this property so somehow you will have to probably regrade that provide some swell because it's not clear how the runoff is going to be dispersed and moved into the overall system okay that will be one of my concerns now regarding that as well you
pro you show some landscaping i think if I recall on the landscaping plans you do show some landscaping there's some planting of trees that may be too steep so yeah you'll have to see maybe if you can maybe cascade that or I don't know what other options will be to mitigate
that or yeah even look maybe for for a different area just to be able to satisfy those conditions right mhm and finally I believe it was the drainage plan on C6.0 if I'm not mistaken let me go to it
yeah 6.0 uh you collecting over 500 ft it seems like on both runs uh directly into the inlet there i know you're putting a 24 inch pipe but it will probably be better that I'm a little bit concerned
because everything goes in one direction you're going to have a lot of runoff over 500 feet going down that road and with this intense rains especially micro burst afternoon rains in the summer uh that I would prefer to have you know to
intercept that maybe 300 ft away from this and have additional pipe and additional collection okay yeah we can we can add in a few interceptor that that's all internal again but when you have so much runoff coming through it and you're very close to the
intersection some of that may not be captured and it can go on over SH road and can create hydroplaning issues there right okay so that would be my concern i think that's probably be all for my
comments from what I recall uh F last one thing i'm sorry uh at the roundabout at the end there i'm sorry not the roundabout the cool side where you have uh structure 11 it's hard to see structure 11 going into
28 I believe yes yeah you can't have that across the culdeac there you will have to route it around somehow probably another manhole or another curb inlet they can collect it maybe you just regrade it and put it on the on the east
side on the east end I think that will work better and then from there just go straight to the manhole number 10 I believe okay yeah we can reroute that yeah we we can discuss some of these issues separately i don't want to expand too much on it i just I think these are the most
important things we need to address all right thank you for that feedback any other questions for the applicant all right hearing done community development has nothing further police i don't have anything else thank you public works
anything additional uh yes no no additional questions or comments fired no comments thank you building nothing thanks all right thank you thank you all right next item invitation Cove and I'm inviting Amir to present this one
this is a uh the second submitt for Invitation Cove a major development plan and um it's a proposal for 43 town homes the u future land use is mixed use and zoning is mixed use uh downtown the applicant is in attendance and uh staff
and applicant are available for further questions and comments this was the former site of uh a proposed apartment complex that had gotten approvals through city council a couple years back there was a variance that was tied to a turn line I believe on Monroe Avenue um
I'm sorry folks at Monroe was the name of the project uh so this is a a different project it's a town home project on the property so the applicant is here and uh she's here to answer any questions you might have good morning kim Fischer on behalf of
the applicant um I don't have any questions for you but if you guys have any questions for me and then if we're able I know the comments were kind of minor if we're able to move to the next stage any questions or comments for the applicant i apologize i don't remember
seeing this come through the open gov um are these rear loaded products or correct okay so obviously with all of our consistency they need to be facing the name street correct and the alleyways need to be light lit with
street lighting not with building lighting with street lighting correct okay sorry I got to keep repeating that but you make those comments on the first metal i'm not going to quit until October so you're consistent i'm not going to quit till October 31st and then you all have
to put up with me i'm retiring so Oh on Halloween are you going to dress up on your last day maybe like a cop i've been dressing up as a cop for 42 years i'm just going to keep up with that maybe try to donate on a fire uniform or something but my predecessor already
knows that that's a requirement kim I have one quick question for you so buildings one and six they're going to front on Monroe which one's buildings right here one and then building Monroe which is the main street all right all
right any other questions okay so yes so nope no you had your opportunity i'm sorry so you're going to have access directly from Monroe for this one through eight right or you said one through six buildings one and six i think they'll be
accessed via the the alley alleyways right there so the front will be on Monroe Avenue the front okay yes should we look maybe into a street parking there street parking that's going to be
difficult to achieve here yeah i don't cuz you're going to have too many we love to have street parking there vlad I'm sorry i said we'd love to have on street parking to slow people down however I thought public services didn't want on street parking
well has that changed yeah well well I'm trying to to imagine how this going to look because you have six six units they all going to have individual driveways right there's no driveway she's proposing on Monroe the driveway no driveways on Monroe it's rear loaded so the driveways
internal back okay okay okay so the driveways will be in the back okay on all okay i wouldn't park on Monroe those people drive like crazy people okay is the intention are these going to be alleyways because it's all track A right but I see the main road is wider
than the they're alleyways so the garages are in the rear and they'll be accessed with the alleys okay so my only concern with this will be again turning the garbage track there picking up the garbage mhm it's kind of between one and
three will be critical and the other one like 37 and 38 we spoke to something with a J maybe and garbage and we're proposing a little concrete pad right by the ponds for those end
units for him is is there a way we can do potentially there maybe on that side on the west side like a hammerhead well there's kind of a hammerhead there now in the alley but that was that was the conversation I had was it Joshua
maybe josh Josh Robinson yeah yeah i had a conversation with him and him and I went back and forth and we we had the pads concrete pads right next to the pond behind lots nine and lot 36 okay is where we'll put the garbage cans for those end units
okay and track eight to the south this is for future connection for the correct property okay correct yeah that will help definitely now so your only access will be right now through Monroe at this point and at this point the other properties develop
correct hopefully it'll be all connected to the Wind Dixie Plaza there right okay hopefully have Have you looked into maybe getting a cross accessment to the Schiller Plaza right now at this point the one to the other side the one to the east yes we tried several times before
when we did apartments and they were no no and no i think the city actually tried tried also with them and Okay yeah yeah one one last thing so on the
left turn lane we're going to add that i I forgot Bobby said it and I forgot so it's going to be a little challenging there because on the east side there's intersection that is probably I think you have maybe 180 to 200 ft separation there we'll use the
same turn lane that was approved last time because it's in the exact same spot already approved with the previous question all right then i'm okay for now yes thanks um Bobby can you zoom into that firet truck really quick on that description
not over to the other side we actually show the side of the fire truck itself other way keep going keep going keep going to the side again over where the description is all right that's going to have to be adjusted i must have missed that on your distance on that um your
firetruck link you guys have used is the wrong That's the wrong dimensions of the fire truck we used okay so you're looking for 46 point 47.65 ft um 47.56 feet okay yeah 47.65 ft um and then Bobby back
back out please and go back over to buildings it looks like one and six and by the way we don't have any intentions of fire trucks going down the alleys just Yeah I understand um we still have to have access to these buildings so my question is zoom back out just a little
bit bobby buildings one and six you got dead ends right there and what it appears what is your distance from I guess the turn from be where four and the five are all the way to that end in in distance to where the one is about
60 60 to 80 ft 60 80 ft and that's on both sides I guess there about 40 feet on the other at building six all right this is our only way in this neighborhood and out is the entrance on
the road currently and then the future there will be the cross access to the left the west north okay all
right all right no other questions thank you thank you anything else any DRC member have any further questions all right hearing none community development has nothing further police i don't have anything else thank you she's
heard all my comments in the past she's going to be at your retirement party too [Laughter] i'm sure they all are everybody's going to dress up like police officers it's Halloween comments no additional comments or
questions fire no comments thank you and building i heard everything thanks all right thank you okay so there is nothing else on the agenda anybody have any items for discussion we are ajourned