Good morning. We will call the April 15th DRC meeting to order. The meeting's been called to order, sir. Sir, the meeting's been called to order. All right, we'll start with roll call on this tax day edition of DRC planning is
here. Public works >> fire >> Jeremy and building >> John Hansen >> and police is not present. All right, we have six special events. Lexi with recreation is here. The first one is the women's club Popka Art and Foliage Festival.
Right. So, the Apaka Women's Club is bringing the Apakka Art and Foliage Festival back to Kitland Nelson Park on Saturday, April 25th from 9:00 a.m. to 5:00 p. p.m. and then Sunday, April 26 from 10:00 a.m. to 400 p.m. Um, it's a fine art and creative craft vendor um
type event and they're going to offer um different crafts and plants for sale along with food and drink vendors. It's a free event. Um they're expecting about 3,000 people. They will be hiring um private security I believe for overnight and um they're going to have 10 by 12
tents 10 x 20 and 20 x 40s and then um production for entertainment. There'll be no alcohol grass parking will be on Edwards Field and um they did mention some roads that would be congested but they're not requesting them to be shut down. And those are Park Avenue between
First Street and Orange Street. And then Orange Street First and First Street between Park Avenue and Fourth Street. And then loaden will begin on April 24th around 3 p.m. >> Any questions for this? Planning has nothing. Public works, >> no comments.
>> Fire, >> no comments. Thank you. >> Building, >> I don't have anything. Thank you. >> All right. Next event is the Apakka Florest. A Pakka Florist is having their grand opening at their new location off of East Simon Boulevard on um Sunday, May
3rd from 10:00 a.m. to 400 pm. This is a grand opening and a ribbon cutting event with music, food, and drinks. It is a free event. It is not on city property. It's located at their retail space in the Wakiva Riverwalk um shopping center. And they have received permission from the property owner to host the event and
there's a letter attached in the packet. Um they're expecting about 100 people. They're going to be setting up a 20 by30 tent. Um and they're working on obtaining the permit. The tent will be located in the parking spaces directly in front of their business. Um there's a map um showing where that location is.
There'll be no alcohol and then attendee parking will be um in the larger lot next to their retail space. >> Any questions? >> All right. Planning has nothing. Public works. >> No comments. >> Fire. >> No comments. Thank you. building. >> Nothing. Thanks.
>> Okay. The next one is Papka Police Department personal safety day. >> All right. The Apka Police Department is um looking to do an APD personal safety day in the park at Kitland Nelson on Saturday, May 9th from 9:00 a.m. to
11:00 a.m. Um Apakka PD will be directing a personal safety to teach self-defense to members of the community. It is a free event. They're expecting about 35 people and parking will be on Edwards Field and their setup includes just one single 10 by 10 tent. >> Any questions?
All right. Planning is nothing. Public works, >> no comments. >> Fire, >> no comments. Thank you. >> Building, >> nothing. Thanks. >> Next item on the agenda is the Paka Police Department shred event. >> This is another police department event. They are doing a shred event on Edwards
Field on Saturday, June 6th from 9:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m. It's a shred and recycle event for the citizens of Apakka. It is a free event. Um they're expecting about 250 people and they will also have a 10 by 10 x 10 tent. >> Any questions and planning has nothing
additional public works? >> No comments. >> Fire. >> No comments. Thank you. >> Building. >> All right. Thank you. Next item is not item is tailgate and tunes. Right. >> Sundown Presents is looking to bring a tailgate and tunes to the Popka
Amphitheater on Saturday, June 6 from 5:30 p.m. to 10 p.m. This is a community event including live music, uh food and beverage, cornhole competition, tailgate games, raffle, and prizes. It is a ticketed event. They're expecting about a thousand people. They'll be hiring uh
gator guards for private security for bag checks and security. They will be setting up a 10x10 tent vendors, food trucks, and stage production. There will be alcohol and they will be requesting offduty officers. The parking will be located on
barbecue row in the grassy area and then additional parking will be in the surrounding complex parking area spaces. Uh they will be setting up on the day of the event and loading out at the end of the night. >> Any questions? Planning has nothing further. Public
works. No comments. >> Fire. >> Any crowd projection numbers yet or any ideas? >> A thousand. >> A thousand. Cool. Thank you. >> Building. >> Nothing. Thanks. >> All right. The next one is team Gina 5K. The Gina Mcrenolds Foundation is
bringing their Team Gina 5K back to North the Northwest Recreation Complex on Saturday, October 31st from 5:00 a.m. to 10:00 a.m. This is an organized runw walk around the path um the sidewalk path at Northwest. They're expecting
about 300 people, 300 people. Uh the there is registration, so there's a fee to be able to participate. Um they're going to be setting up merchandise tenses no larger than 10 by 10. They'll have an inflatable for their finish line. Um, no alcohol. And then guest
parking will be located um through the through gates one and two at Northwest and they'll be staying on the sidewalk so they won't be crossing any um streets. >> Any questions? All right. Pling has nothing further. Public works. >> No comments. >> Fired. >> No comments. Thank you.
>> Nothing. Thank you. >> And Lexi, I think that's it, right? I think that's all. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> All right. The next item is a special exception for a telecom tower at Wild Oaks. Uh the project manager is uh Jean
Sanchez, but I'll pinch hit on this one. Um the current formbbased code requires a special exception for a cell tower uh within the formbbased code area of which this is. However, the Wild Oaks uh code second reading is going forward tonight
to to the city council. Uh if that is approved, a cell tower would become a permit in use and therefore there would be no need for a special exception. I don't believe the applicants in attendance. Uh are there any questions from the DRC members on this one? Okay. And if the code does not get approved,
then they would have to go through the special exception process. That'd be the planning commission approval. Planning has nothing additional. Um public works. >> Yeah. I've talked to the engineer. This is such a small site. The only thing I had a comment on is the driveway. is at a sort of a severe angle, but it's
because it's at the end of the road. >> If we ever extend the road under the expressway, we'll have to straighten the driveway out. >> Okay. All right. Fire stepped away building. Anything addition? >> I don't have anything. Thank you. >> Okay. The next item on the agenda is a
major development plan for the Ridge PD parcel 3 middle and Gene is the project manager. >> Good morning. This is a proposed MDP for um one of the parcels in the ridge. It's actually a portion of a parcel on the ridge. So you can see there it's on west
of um Aoya Papco Road and south of Boy Scout Road. This is just the western portion of parcel 3. Um the entitlement is there for multif family. However, I wanted to ensure um that on that eastern
portion, it's clear that if the entitlement here, I just wanted to because I think we've all I think the city has had a hard time keeping track of the units and density in places like the ridge, like a PD or a master plan
development that I needed kind of a count on um how many has been entitled in terms of development plans. So, I really have just some housekeeping items. I needed a clarification on the density um
and the timing or construction of the rest of Boy Scout Road. I think most of it is already there except it's supposed to punch through to Oko Papco Road. Um but yeah, that's really all I have.
>> Is the applicant in attendance? >> All right. Would you like to discuss the comments that you received? Good morning. Uh, it's George 8. Uh, 225 East Robinson Street. Um, so we did have some comments we needed a little bit of
clarification on. So um in regards to the density that's shown in here um the uh density or or the number of units that are shown on the approved PD are 374 units. What we're showing here is uh
363 I believe. So we have actually less units. um the the variation here as far as density from what's shown on the PD is really about the delineation of the portion of the site that's going to be
apartment. Uh but as far as total program uh for for entire parcel uh it's uh the program hasn't changed if anything so the number of units actually decreased. So um it's going to be the same
entitlements for uh office and and commercial and then we have the the units for uh uh the residential units there. Um so we can provide that clarification in the response and we can provide the the u the reference to the
to approve PD in there. Um, as far as the uh Bronson Lake Drive extension that is um will be constructed with this with this uh with the construction of of the apartment site. Keep looking back at
you. Um so um that that would be at the same time as a um as a construction for for the parcel 3 apartments. Um there were some other comments we wanted to get a little bit of
clarification on or provide some answers to. So there's a comment regarding the typical road section for the Bronson Lake extension that is actually provided in one of the sheets there C4. Um >> excuse me sir, could you speak into the mic? They're having a hard time hearing you.
>> Okay. How's that? >> Now I hear myself way too much. Okay. But >> there was a question regarding confirm whether the connection to Okoya popka is full access or right in right out. Um
wanted to confirm which access that is in reference to. Um, is that can can I point with this or no? >> Uh, yeah, it's on an iPad, so the pointer is not going to work. Okay.
>> Um, so I wanted to clarify which access that question is in reference to. Um I'm assuming from what I'm understanding there it's uh it's going to be that um connection we're showing here in the
east showing feature access with the double arrow. Is that correct? >> Uh it's under planning and zoning. I think it's comment number um eight.
Oh, cross access connections, right? >> No. Uh, >> hey, confirm. >> Oh, I'm sorry. I saw that today. Yes. Uh, you can disregard that. I saw that this morning. Um, and I talked to Pam yesterday. >> Okay.
>> Who, um, was integral in determining how that was. >> I'm really confused. >> Kind of supposed to be a line. So, >> I'll talk with her further to see if there's any other offsite improvements >> required along there.
>> Um, >> yeah, >> yeah, you can disregard that for now. >> Okay. >> Um, >> so with comment number nine, the next one, uh, show cross connections between the proposed apartment and and the
feature development. So, we have cross connection at at two at two points. So, we have off the uh um on the south off the main access the the access off of Bronson Lake Drive there. Um >> is that a full access there? >> Where's the Can you show I did not I
didn't see that >> the access off Bronson Lake. Is that full access right there? >> Full access. >> Full access. Okay. >> So, right here on the south. So you have this access there and it that road right
there that um internal road will will be you know that will provide access to the future uh >> okay >> uh commercial and access to the apartment site. So, so that is >> that's one.
>> Is there something on the north? >> There's something on the north. >> Um, so on the north we have um a future access here, a stub out or or a a you know a curb cut for a driveway that will
extend into the the apartment site as well. >> Okay. So that curb cut's already gonna be there with this, right? With >> Yeah, we'll we'll provide the the the curbs um to to the driveway. >> Yeah, if you could just label those for me. >> It's the one on the north.
>> Yeah, absolutely. Uh also number 10, internal access uh pedestrian connection. Um so we have inter u you know sidewalk along the apartments and the clubhouse shown in
there. was also showing uh a sidewalk on the west there between the uh two northern buildings um that would uh punch out to the u the future uh
community amenity area on there. So that is also provided and then we have the the cross the the pedestrian access on uh you know the entry road on the south there. Um
there's a pedestrian connection there too. >> Okay. So there would be like a continuous sidewalk or pathway from this to open space area right to parcel A which is meant to be the entire community's amenity.
>> Yeah. Yeah. So, this guy right there kind of um is a sidewalk that is punching out to where >> it wasn't clear to me. >> If you can something Yeah, >> we can certainly make sure we call it out. Yeah, absolutely.
>> Um comment 12 regarding the parking spaces using um u wheel stops. So in lay of that what we're showing there is 7 foot sidewalks up against the building um
where you can have you know still five foot clear even with a with a car overhang there. Um the 7 foot sidewalk is more labeled on the uh on the typical sections. Um we can also show you know
add some more labels on the site to clarify that. It's required. >> They're required and um they were really essential to at the time fire and police when when this code was adopted.
>> Um so >> yeah, it's kind of if the wheel starts or the parking space is adjacent to a sidewalk. >> Um question. >> Yeah, they're they're kind of adjacent to so parking sidewalk like pathway in
front of the building and then building. >> Yes. So the reason that the wheel stops are required because then you have vehicle overhang on sidewalks and it flows with the pedestrian ability to walk through and with ADA somebody's, you know, disabled or something like that and they're trying to go through
there, there might not be enough space. That's the reason for the wheel stops in the code. >> Yeah. So ADA would require you to have like four feet of of clear wind. So, you know, with with having a seven foot sidewalk, the car overhang is not going to be more than two feet. Still be
providing five feet of >> What is the justification for not providing the wheel stops? >> Uh to us, wheel stops have have been proven as more of a trip hazard. Uh we've kind of as much as we can, we've tried to avoid those.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Jean was saying we've done diapered ballards before. We've allowed them to have like police wouldn't mind. They need something though that makes sure >> I mean decorative ballers won't look very decorative when you have it all
over the site. Uh >> you can they can they're really pretty minimalist ones out there with light. Actually, you can use it as part of your photos too of your lighting plan. But I don't know if we've ever done a wheel
stop. >> Not that I know of. Yeah, >> we did have on the apartment on parcel six where we did an extra wide sidewalk in lay this of the wheel stop. >> Is it because of the code like is there something on the Let me look at the code
a little bit more if it gives you any other kind of relief. >> Okay. >> Uh we'll look into that and we'll see what we can provide. um 13 and 14 for the phototrics and irrigation. Uh we typically would provide those with the construction site
plan >> irrigation plan. Yes, photometric plans we can defer it to CSV. Okay. >> Kind of what we've had we've had been doing. So okay.
>> All right. That is kind of for the planning and zoning comments on the uh p uh the public works and engineering. Um so a few comments on there. Uh the first com is regarding right turn lanes.
So it's showing uh right turn lane on Okoya Popka at Bronson Lake extension and another on Boy Scout at the entrance. Um the second one in particular, Boy Scout
at the entrance. Is that kind of wanted to clarify? Are we looking at over there on the north side at the northern entrance to the to the property there? I didn't hear you, Dale. I'm sorry.
>> I'm sorry. I've got to press the red button. I said it should have been required when Boy Scout was first improved, you know, for the ridge development, but it was missed. I mean, by code, the road is 35 miles an hour, which says you must have a right-hand turn lane. So, it got missed on the
original submitt. Can we correct it now? >> I think the city attorney just said that. Yeah, you can. When situations like this happen, I probably go back and revisit it. >> Is that So, there's a code requirement for any um
>> if you're over 35 miles an hour, a right turn lane is required >> at every every driveway. >> Well, at every in other words, the other entrance that you have, the future entrance that you're showing, you'll have to have a right-hand turn lane for
that. also when they develop the you know the office commercial um okay I'll if I'll I'll look at the code requirement there um >> at the entrance we're showing as part of
this there really isn't any rightway uh available to put in that turn lane Okay, we can we can have a meeting off, you know, offline and discuss it. >> Okay. >> And then the other entrance, other right
turn lane on the Okoya Popka Road uh at Bronson Lake Drive. So that's down there on the south southeast corner. Um we do show a a rightaway taking for a future right >> turn lane
>> uh which kind of which is consistent with the corridor study that was published published in 2023. >> Um on the PD we didn't show that right turn lane as being part of of the you know >> it's it's part of the code so you'll
need to construct it. >> Okay. Um, all right. So, we'll I think we'll we'll proceed with that and then we'll we'll kind of put something on the you know to discuss the the other channel.
>> Um, comment number two, uh, separate water man for the for the fire line, >> right? Are we looking at two services into the building off of the same main? >> What we're looking at is right now you
have one water line through which is providing fire service and portable pull the way the meter is set up, >> you know, and I realize it's something we won't have to worry about in the near future. But I cannot shut the water off because there's one a fear that I shut
the fire line off with the bypass there. Even if I shut the meter off, you're still going to get, you know, flow through a small bypass. So, I'll never really be able to shut the water off. And he'll never really have this fire service because the bypass was only, you
know, put in there for me replacement. >> So, and I've talked to everybody that I can. This standard popped into our standards back in 2016 and nobody can understand why. And it's something that we're desperately trying to do away with. So, we want, you know, a fire line
with a fire meter and then a smaller portable water line for your buildings. >> Okay. Um, yeah, I mean, I understand that. Um, you know, the reasoning behind that is is there currently any, you know, is
that currently a code requirement? Um, >> it's it's our requirement. We're not going to approve, you know, a single line anymore. We've been we've been stuck with a few of them and I've got one we didn't catch it up. I've been here for nine months now. We didn't catch it because it was approved, you
know, almost a year ago and they're under construction and my inspectors, you know, had a fit when they saw it and this developer said, "Well, I've done it three other times in the city of Apopka and that's what got us looking into it." There is a detail that says you can have this fire line, but it doesn't say it's
a fire line, you know, with a portable. So, you know, we're just we're going to make sure we're not going to build any other systems like this. >> All right. Um the next comment about engineering
calculations, >> that'll all be when you do your CSP. I just wanted to put it in there. >> Okay. All right. Uh last comment there, update the TIA. >> It's f it's five years old and yeah, traffic has changed a lot in this area.
So the the TIA was, you know, done with the PD u with with the developments that are shown on there and and the target year is 27 which is next year. So Bobby, can we make them updated?
>> I think if that's your discretion. Yeah, >> I would say at least provide us the traffic counts when you did the TIA and you can pick up the traffic counts in the area off the either the FDOT, you know, website or Orange County's website. Look at the difference.
>> Okay. Well, we'll we'll look at this. My my you know >> our hesitation there is that you know the TIA was associated with the PD it was part of the you know executed agreement and it you know it it was based on the developments that we're
developing right now. So from the PD perspective, nothing has changed there. Understand there's other developments around that you know um but that the assumption is that's what the TIA would have done is is provide projections for
these. Um, so we'll we'll kind of take a look at this and and provide response >> when we meet to talk about the turn lanes. If you'll you bring the you know the traffic counts was with the original TIA versus you know what's today's traffic counts and let's look at them.
>> Okay. Great. Uh other than that so I think that's the engineering for fire fire sprinkler fire alarm required. We'll we'll add that as a note. uh Nox Knox box will be required at the building. We'll add that. There
won't be any elevators uh there. Um there won't be any gates on the on the um on the apartment site. Um hydrants to be within 25 ft of the FDC. We'll make sure that's kind of shown in there. Last
comment is FDC are required to be remote from the building. We do show that. >> That's an Yeah. Is there a certain a certain distance from the building to the FDC that we need to be trying to meet?
>> Okay. Under 40T. >> Okay. Um I think I've kind of covered all the comments we need question uh clarification on. >> Okay. Any other questions for the applicant? >> Planning has nothing further police or
I'm sorry public works. >> No additional comments. >> Fired. >> No comments. Thank you. >> Building >> nothing. Thank you. >> All right. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Next item on the agenda is Wild Oak Sea store major development plan. Second
submitt. Jean's the project manager. Good morning. Um there's actually no additional comments for this from DRC. So it is tenatively um scheduled for public hearings uh planning commission in May and city
council or city commission in June. >> All right. Planning is nothing further. Public works. Yeah. All my comments have been previously addressed. >> All right. Fire. >> No comments. Thank you. >> Building >> nothing. Thank you. All right, next item
is logistics 429. >> So this is I think it's three or four buildings. Uh this is the southernmost um area of uh the
industrial portion of the ridge right there. Um, and this is actually it's the most southeastern portion rather, but um, I had some housekeeping comments and um,
as well as public works. I don't think I received any other comments from DRC members for this one. >> The applicant in attendance. >> Good morning. Mark Smiley, Smiley Associates here representing Mccrainy for this. Um, I did get the the comments
the engineering uh earlier. I see there was a comment relative to connecting to the 4 inch line. So, to your point about the fire line and the portable water line, that's how we're set up here. >> And I will double check to make sure, but the intent there was extending the
portable for the portable and then extending I'll double check that. Yeah, >> I'll double check that. Okay, then that makes sense. So, we're on the same page as far as a portable system and a fire fire line. They're both private. We're
past the meters, so everything's private. >> Correct. >> Okay. Um I did have one question relative to retaining walls. I know before segmental walls were only limited in height. Is it, you know, and then you'd
have to tear them. >> Is that still a city policy or can you go higher than I think the standard was 8 feet? >> I think the policy is six feet >> or six is it six feet? >> It's in the land development code, I believe. >> So, that hasn't changed. So, okay. So,
we're either limited to that or we can't use a segmental wall. We can use a different type. What I have seen with some of them, they'll go up six feet, jog over five or six feet, and then go up another six feet. >> Yeah. So, I don't think we're going to be able to do that here. We're kind of tight with space there. So, we'll
probably use the same wall system that we did um the graphics wall that we did that's around the perimeter of the the CFX area, which kind of goes a little bit higher. And we'll have the safety protocol in there for that. And because this is a private site, normally, you know, in a subdivision, I ask for
easements over the geog grid so people don't come in in the future and tear it up. So if you do, you go with the segmental walls, look and see what you're putting under it, like any utilities or anything that might have to be disturbed in the future because they never put back the geo grid when they take it up to do.
>> Right. Right. So we'll probably to that point as well. Um the graphics wall, are you familiar with the graphics wall that we put out there before? So that's just has stems rather than the uh the other. So I suspect that we'll because of space have to run with that type of system. >> That'll be good.
>> So um and then I did see uh the and I don't know if this is is is uh I see this from planning relative to the connection of the sidewalk at the front. Um, I'll have to put that connection on the
left side there because it kind of drops off where the radius of of Bronson Road is. We'll have to just make that connection on the left side and there is a connection over at the existing um driveway on the right side. >> Um,
I think that's generally it. I did have one general question here also. The original approval included the two buildings on the bottom which are now labeled 200 and 300 and then in that
open space there was actually a cross stock that was approved on the original CSP that has not yet been constructed. So if we are going to start 300 and what will be that cross dock 500 from that
CSP that's still active and we just need to to uh call for a pre-construction meeting on that or >> I'll defer to Bobby. How long ago were the plans approved? I guess >> if it's still active. Yes. >> Okay. So just call Margaret for
preconstruction. >> Okay. Very good. I think that's all I have. You guys have anything for me? Um I'm not sure on the original plans when the site was first set up. Um the auto turn for the fire truck. I don't recall if we did it for all the buildings or we just did it for the first phase, but could we get updated on that?
>> Yeah, I can provide. Yeah, I can do the whole site at this point and give you that. That'd be good. >> Okay. Any other questions for the applicant? All right. Planning has nothing further. Public works. >> No other comments. >> Fire. >> No other comments. >> Building. >> Nothing. Thank you. >> All right. Thank you, sir.
>> Thank you. >> All right. Next item is the PUPA Northwest Recreation Complex Space Force Soccer Fields CSP second submitt. I'm the project manager on this. Um this
is a city project for the additional soccer fields out at the Northwest Complex. Uh the applicant is the city. They received comments from planning. Uh and I believe public works had some additional comments. Uh there any
questions you might have? Good morning, gentlemen. John Stockm with CPH Consulting LLC in Sanford representing Joshua Hughes, the PE on the project. And uh as Bobby said, this is our second submitt. So, we did do revised plans as well as a storm water
report to try to address the concern of the swelles and any possible overflow in the northeast corner. uh under the 10-year two-year storm, there wouldn't be any over topping of the burm in the northeast corner. And the um the this uh project is part of a grant schedule.
We're already into the third year of the grant and so we hope to get approval with conditions so that it can stay on schedule, get the fields constructed this summer uh for the soccer season in the fall. Uh the water management district did issue the permit for the project, but they are concerned about
the current state of the site because the site's experiencing erosion. Uh the Roundup's already been applied to kill back the weeds and it's a bare site with wind erosion, possible water erosion. So they'd like to see this pushed forward to get it constructed. Um with that,
I'll be happy to answer any questions or concerns. >> Any questions for the applicant? Planning has nothing other than the comments that were generated. Public works. >> You've addressed all my comments. >> Uh yes, sir. We did a response letter, the stormwater report that was signed by the
>> like I said, you've addressed them all, so I have no >> Oh, yes, sir. Thank you. >> All right. Fire. >> No comments. Thank you. >> Building. >> I don't have anything. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Okay. The next item on the agenda, if I
can get the agenda loaded. >> That's it. There is >> it's called discussion. Anything for discussion. >> All right. We are journ