We'll call the October 29th uh DRC meeting to order. We'll start with roll call. Community development is present. Police Andrew King, public works, Dale Smith. Fired. Jeremy Holderfield. And building is not present. So, we have a skeleton crew in time for Halloween.
All right. First item on the agenda is a special exception for 85 and 135 Hermit Smith Road. Uh the applicant is here in attendance and uh if you'd like to address the DRC now be your opportunity
to do so. Good morning. Jonathan Hules with the Loun Law Firm, 215 North Yola Drive, Orlando. Uh what's before you today is a special exception request for indoor I'm sorry industrial outdoor storage. Uh the
property is currently zoned industrial. Uh but this specific use would require a special exception. Right now the the property is currently developed as a truck storage and maintenance facility
uh which is a non-conforming use and that can continue for so long as that use isn't un not expanded or interrupted for more than 180 days. Uh idea here is the the new owner would come in and
bring the property up to code requirements both for um uh parking services as well as storm water and every other applicable code provision and then convert it to a very like use of industrial outdoor storage. So, uh,
we've had a preapp on this this, um, request and we have a conceptual site plan and just looking to move it to the planning commission for consideration. Happy to answer any questions. Any questions for Mr. Hules and I'll just add that the outdoor
storage as a use as a principal use requires a special exception from the planning commission and then that use is either approved approved with conditions or denied by the planning commission. If it's denied, they have a right to appeal to the city council. Uh, with that, uh, community development has nothing
further. Police, no comments. Public works. I will get our comments when they submit a site plan. Okay. Thank you. And, uh, fire. Um, far as water goes, you guys will be running water from my understanding from the fire side.
Uh TJ Moore, 1820 engineering. Um they're proposing to have a small module modular building on site that we'll we will be running water to and we're getting the hydro flow test scheduled for that when we submit for our site plan. Perfect. Thank you. Yep.
All right. Thank you, gentlemen. Next item is Invitation Cove construction site plan second submittal. I'm sitting in for a mirror today for as the project manager on this. Uh the applicant is here in attendance and
would you like to address the BRC? I believe planning had minimal comments on this one. Yes, I do. Just for Jeremy, I didn't need it today. Right, Jeremy? Um good morning. I only have a couple of
quick questions. Ready? Um, you're on the planning side. Number five and six. I don't know what they are. What was the comment? Yes. So, basically what he's saying is is that the comprehensive plan says that
in the transportation element if you have T turnarounds, you can't do that. So, you have to figure out basically a continuous loop road. That's what the comp plan says. And the following is stated within areas designated for misuse development. On street parking shall be encouraged. On street parking
is required in private rideways adjacent to the town homes. Uh doesn't appear that you've got on street parking. No. Nor have we ever planned it. So, like how do we get to the point we're at now where you're basically saying what
we are proposing and what's been approved by council is now not allowed. Right. Let us take a look at that offline. Okay. I'll be back with you. Sure. Thank you. Um and then Dale and I see Vlad back there. I think
we need to have another meeting, but just going over some of these. I'm going to hit the highlights. Um are you may not remember but are have you read our response to comments? Yes I did. Okay. Um so what calculations are
missing? So we've submitted all the lift station calculations and you've got the lift station calculations but you've got fire hydrants. So we need the water flow calculations. So okay if I didn't see any lift station. I mean, I
saw the plans on the lift station. Yeah. No, there's lift station calculations on there. And you're also saying that you want it to be public. This is already been discussed that it's to be private. Are is the is the roadway going to be public? No, the roadway is required to be private also.
Okay. And so the sanitary, the water, everything on site, the sanitary um the water will have to be public because it's water. We're not allowed to make that one private. Um the sanitary I guess that's up to you guys. We're going to have the lift station's going to be private and so that's up to
you guys if you want the mains to be private as well. I would think if we don't have the lift station we can keep the sanitary but let's have a conversation with lad after the meeting. Sure. And then and and I understand you may need the um to discuss some of this
offline, but some of the comments I didn't I don't know what you're actually looking for. Like um you're wanting us to move the Westerly entrance out of the drainage ement. I don't know what you're
Well, you've got the and if all that's going to be, you know, private drainage because I didn't know if this was going to be a public rataway or not. If it's not going to be a public rightway, then the drainage easements I really don't care about because it'll be owned you by
I would assume the property manager. But if it was going to be a public road and a public storm water system, some of those pipes are right next to what appear to be rightway lines and I want drainage easements for future maintenance because we will we whoever has to go in and do any repairs to the
pipe will have to put in a fairly wide trench, you know, slope it back depending upon, you know, the depth of the pipe. So we typically get easements. This one was talking about your our westerly. So I assumed it was our roadway that was heading towards the
west. So that was what and I was trying to get my It said move westerly entrance out of the drainage easement. So the only thing we could think is that you didn't want our connection to the west. I really that may have been my poor typing. The drainage easement is on the westerly
side of your easement. It's where the pipe goes out to the existing. Yeah, the the pipe's actually in our rightway. Yeah. So, but if it's private Yeah. Okay. Said all those comments can be ignored. Yeah. And then there was the one about the ADA ADA ramps can't be in the valley
curb. I don't know where you're you've got the sidewalk. You're going to be replacing the ADA ramps with your entrance. And yeah, all you show is a straight line for your sidewalks. They're going to be flares and all of that. I just want a detail to show me how those ADA ramps are going to work
with the valley curve that you have. Okay. So, you just want Yeah, because they're not really next to each other. Just want detail. Um, and then I mean again, we'll we'll try to do a meeting so we don't hang up hang up Mr. Pots over there because, you
know, he's got to go to breakfast or something. Um, let me just the um the geotech we have a five acre site with 17 borings. Do you really need another boring? And they're all the borings are
pretty similar. the well the borings where you uh basically propose the seasonal high groundwater are at opposite ends of the sites and the one in the norththeast corner is nowhere near the pond and that's the sort of the one that you relied upon for
the seasonal high groundwater. If you go to the one that's on the southwest corner it's closer to the ponds and the seasonal high groundwater is higher and wouldn't meet our standards. And your borings are from I guess your previous design when they were departments and you know the work is four years old. So,
I don't know if I, you know, truly I'd like for you to go back to your geotech and can you draw a straight line between, you know, the borings on the southeast and the northeast and tell us what the seasonal high groundwater is. And we also have a So, you're okay if we get a letter from the geotech. And we
also have a letter from previous about I know one of your other comments was with the separation with the season high, but we've got a letter from the geotech that was submitted previously from non on this one. So, are you okay with just a letter from
the geotech? A letter and as long as we get our 3 ft clearance. Okay. And then um and then like I said, we can go over into detail some of these these other ones with the way ICPR works and some of your comments towards that.
Is that okay? Yeah. Has everybody got available flag? Do you have availability in the near future to [laughter] You want to pay? I was just saying if you were going to buy donuts for later today. No. Do you have future um
availability in the near future to go over this project to have a meeting? Do you have time for a meeting in the near future? Okay. Okay. All right. Thank you. And Jeremy's all good. Yay. Uhuh. No, no, no. That wasn't an opportunity to speak. No,
we had a discussion yesterday regarding the [laughter] auto turn comments and as long as the auto turn confirms with realism on site, I'll be okay with Thank you. Thanks. That's all I got. All right. Thank you. All right. Absolutely.
Good morning, uh Shane Aso, the developer owner of the property. So, we as you know, we've had a previous design and then um town home owns more suitable for the site. So, we we proceeded about eight months ago to uh go through the whole process. Again, I don't know if
you know this site, but we have serious uh homeless camps that go out there. Um I mean, I get I get called all the time from uh police to remove them. I mean, trash. It just is constant constant dumping of furniture and we're
constantly having to maintain it. At one point we got a code violation for $80,000 out there after spending I mean $15,000 cleaning it up. That all got waved and everything, but it's just been a real hassle. Is there anything from this juncture we can do to get a
site clearing permit expedited? Um I just think it would benefit the shopping center, us, the city if we can get the site cleared. Um and it would stop a lot of the trespassing and and dumping of furniture. So, the site clearing permits issued through public works and it's
usually issued upon completion of the of the um reviews and approval of permits. Dale, if you want to is there anything we can do? Well, what I'd like to get is an erosion sediment control plan. There wasn't one in the package and that is one of my comments. I'm sorry.
A sediment and erosion control plan for the site. That was not in the submitt. Well, there's a fence on the planet. Well, I didn't see where the silk fence was around the site, your construction entrance or anything else on the plan.
But we keep getting random comments when we submit. It's just holding him up because this was like well and and I missed it last time. But this is something that is standard on every set of plans that we get because when
you go to your precon, we tell you you can't do anything until you set up erosion sediment control and it's inspected by our inspector until Yeah. Yeah. But he has to, you know, we want a set of plans, you know, to look at. So if we set if we get that to you, can
we can we have can we get some type of exception here to get clearing going? Vlad, can you can you come up on the record? So if you do a clearing of the site, you will have to probably provide at least
one of the retention ponds so somehow the water can be captured because everything slopes to the south. And I was just driving there just checking on some other sides and it seems like you already have a sealed fence along the south side and the some of the sealed fence is already down.
Yeah, that's from So if you clear I know if you clear the side you're probably going to need a double sealed fence on that side on the south side. Absolutely. Because we just few days ago we had multiple sides that actually with a single seal fence it went completely
down and went to the other propert. We'll we'll do whatever whatever needs to be done. If we can just start clearing this allows us to move through these comments where we're at right now and it would be very helpful for it's been it's just been an ongoing thing with the illegal dumping and then
he's got to pay money to go out there comes after him and he's got to go and it's a homeless camps. I mean any have been arrested? Yeah. Yeah. I I know there's some history to Bobby. We we approved some grading before that. I believe when Richard was here some had
been approved. Okay. So may maybe prepare like a mass grading plan and we can get going with that while we're finishing up all the comments. Right. Send it to you guys. Uh yeah, you can
submit it to open gov and then Well, why don't we do this just and I know it's not right away, but you're going to be putting your construction entrance out in the rightway. So, why don't we just started doing rightway permits online. Why don't we just do it as a rightaway permit? Yeah, just you
know, for the site clearing, but I think it's going to have to be documented as a mass grading. They could just submit a construction site plan and just and it would be a mass grading plan. Construction site plan. Yeah. Yeah. So we can start with the project. I think that's going to be
better. Have you put no trespassing sign? I mean yes clearing allows us to put cameras up now and be a little more. I think historically that All right. So hopefully that solution
works. Okay. Thank you very much. Absolutely. Thank you very much. Yeah. All right. Community development has nothing further. We'll look out for the middle of the mass grading plan. Uh police, anything additional? No comments. Uh public works. Anything additional?
No additional comments. Fired. No comments. Thank you. All right. Thank you. I won't see you for a while, Jeremy. So, you brought the helmet for nothing, right? It was your Halloween costume, correct?
Yeah. Chief McKenley's last day is Take care, Kim. All right. Next item is Keen Road retail construction site plan um submit resubmitt construction site plan amendment for submitt uh I'm the project
manager on this. The request is to eliminate a sidewalk on Keen Road. There had been a compromised reach with the public works department on that. Uh the applicant is here in attendance. Uh if you have anything to add uh Mr. pots. Feel free to come up and address that
before the DRC. From the comments I saw, the only one I wanted to ask about, Dale, was there was the one about the easement, and we could provide the easement, but I'd request that it doesn't hold up this revision approval. Make it a condition of uh COC.
I'm good with that. Perfect. All right. Community Development has nothing further. Police, no comments. Public works, no comments. Fire, no comments. All right. Thank you, Brian. Thank you very much. All right. The next three I am pinch
hitting for Jean who is out of the office and uh it is Wingspan ABC Kelly Park Village revision construction site plan second submitt does not appear that the applicant is here. There were no comments from planning and zoning. Did
any DRC members have any questions or comments on items three, four, and five? It's pretty much the same project. U I submitted my comments a little bit late. One of them was, you know, one of the out parcels was fine. The other had
a couple of comments and the, you know, the main, you know, parcel, you know, wasn't much of a change either. Okay. I submitted them. All right. After you closed it down. All right. We will uh go back in and reissue those to the applicant. Um community development has nothing
further. Police, anything? public works. No other comments. Fire. No comments. All right. So, that takes care of those. Any items for discussion. All right. We're return.