WEBVTT METADATA Video-Count: 1 Video-1: youtube.com/watch?v=m88s6qjMkm4 NOTE MEETING SECTIONS: Part 1 (Video ID: m88s6qjMkm4): - 00:03:08: Meeting Convenes, Roll Call, Public Comment Introduction - 00:03:24: Public Comment Slot 1: No Speakers Present - 00:03:40: Carolina Textiles Special Exception Permit Discussion Begins - 00:05:19: Fire Department Concerns About Truck Access Dimensions - 00:06:17: Clarification on Materials Stored Outside: Semi-Trailers - 00:06:35: Denial Recommendation, Planning Comments, Process Explanation - 00:07:08: Lester Oaks Construction Site Plan, Subdivision Proposal - 00:07:39: Architectural Elevations Discussion, Culdesac Interconnectivity - 00:09:50: Outstanding Work, Comprehensive Plan Compliance, Resubmission - 00:10:24: Sheila Park Construction Site Plan, Unit Reduction - 00:11:35: Karst Concerns Discussion, Infrastructure Ownership - 00:13:11: MSBU for Street Lighting, Stormwater Pond Easement - 00:14:31: Easement Dedication, Inlet Types, Street Tree Placement - 00:16:51: Jogging Trail Placement on Maintenance Berm Discussed - 00:17:59: Project Approval Contingent, No Further Discussion, Adjournment Part: 1 1 00:03:08.400 --> 00:03:24.080 Good morning. We will call the May 20th DRC meeting to order and we'll start with roll call. Planning is present. Police >> Andrew King, >> public works, >> Dale Smith, >> fire, >> Jeremy Holderfield, >> and building >> John Hansen. >> All right. Uh we'll start out with our public comment period. If any member 2 00:03:24.080 --> 00:03:40.000 from the public wishes to speak on any item on the agenda, you have three minutes. Any members of the public wish to speak? Hearing none, we will move on. First item on the agenda is a special event. I'm sorry, not a special event, a special exception for Carolina Textiles 3 00:03:40.000 --> 00:03:55.920 and June Sa is project manager. >> Good morning. Um, so this is a special exception permit application uh required for the outdoor storage for overnight parking. Location is at 300 4 00:03:55.920 --> 00:04:13.680 South Bratio um Road. Future land industrial zoning is light industrial and outdoor storage as a principal use is permitted with a special exession permit. Uh planning has a uh one one comments regarding the 5 00:04:13.680 --> 00:04:29.440 screening of the outdoor search from the public streets. Um and um is applicant >> the applicant in attendance this morning. >> Okay. >> All right. If you have any questions for the DRC on the comments you received, 6 00:04:29.440 --> 00:04:45.840 now is your chance to address it? >> Okay. All right. >> Did any other departments have any comments on this other than planning? >> We have met with them one time to talk about uh getting a little bit of extra land because we need to redo the lift station that's on the corner of the 7 00:04:45.840 --> 00:05:03.280 property, but unfortunately we haven't had time to come up with exactly what we need. >> Okay. Would that impact the special exception at all? It should not. >> Okay. Yeah, because that's just permitting the use on the property. All right. Um, with that, it's 8 00:05:03.280 --> 00:05:19.440 >> I had a question regarding the parking like the the auto not really an auto turn, I guess, is what I was asking, but for firet truck access, are we able to access with the design of how you have it? Because right now it looks like it in the photo, but I don't have any numbers or measurements. >> That's an appropriate question for the applicant to answer. If you wouldn't 9 00:05:19.440 --> 00:05:45.360 mind coming on up and Can I repeat your question, sir? >> Um, so normally on a site like this, we're going to ask for an auto turn for the firet truck access, and that's what I was kind of looking for in your plans. I didn't see I do see you have a design for I guess the parking for your what appears to be like a semi-truck or 10 00:05:45.360 --> 00:06:01.360 whatever, but um I need some type of dimensions for firet truck access in case there is a fire. We got to make access to that driving area and what it looks like. So, >> no problem at all. Next next go around or next submission, we'll have all those dimensions there for you. And in your comment, you did provide the length of 11 00:06:01.360 --> 00:06:17.919 the truck, so we'll have that clearly noted. >> All right. Perfect. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> I do have a question for you, sir. What materials would be stored outside? >> Um, it's going to be prim primarily um semi trailers. Um, so they they they are 12 00:06:17.919 --> 00:06:35.520 a rag manufacturer. They recycle towels into rags and so they need significant storage for that and it's moving in and moving out. >> Okay. All right. >> Significantly. So no open drums or things like that. >> Okay. All right. Thank you. All right. Do any other members of the DRC have any 13 00:06:35.520 --> 00:06:51.919 questions for the applicant? >> All right. Uh sounds like there's still some outstanding comments from planning. So based on that, we recommend denial until the comments have been addressed. Once every comment has been addressed, then you go forward to your public hearing, which is the planning commission. Planning commission either 14 00:06:51.919 --> 00:07:08.560 approves it, denies it, or approves with conditions. If it's denied, you have the right to appeal to the city council. Uh, police, >> no comments. >> Okay. Public works, >> no comments. >> Okay. Fire, >> no other comments. Thank you. >> Okay. And building, >> I don't I don't have anything. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. 15 00:07:08.560 --> 00:07:24.160 >> Okay. Next item on the agenda is Lester Oaks construction site plan. First middle is the project manager. >> Good morning everyone. So this is a construction site plan for a proposal of a seven lot uh residential subdivision. 16 00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:39.520 The zoning is RSF-1B and the future land use is residential low suburban. It's between Rock Springs and uh Welch and uh staff and applicant are available for further comments and questions. >> Okay. Is the applicant in attendance? 17 00:07:39.520 --> 00:08:00.639 All right. Good morning, Tom Favoring. Um, just had a couple of comments I'd like to go over. Um, first one, uh, being the fourth comment, provide color, architectural elevation 18 00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:15.520 of proposed buildings. Um, it's a required document needed for the submitt. I just wanted to see if if there's a way that we could um push that off to the building permits because right now we don't have a a home builder on this. So, we don't know exactly what 19 00:08:15.520 --> 00:08:32.080 is going on these lots, but we will obviously comply with land development code. Okay. >> So, we do require that um for each subdivision that comes in. That way, we know what the the buildings are going to look like. So, whenever permits come through, we have to do a review per the 20 00:08:32.080 --> 00:08:47.360 development design guidelines for the architecture. >> Okay. So it's required. >> Yes. >> Um thank you. And then the only other one I had is just regarding the uh comment on the culdesac which is number eight. Um we know that the culacs aren't 21 00:08:47.360 --> 00:09:03.760 u preferred option here but with this site it's it's threeacre site. Um only seven lots and there's no uh the two subdivisions to our south and to our west are developed. There's no real way for us to provide interconnectivity from a roadway aspect. Um and and really to 22 00:09:03.760 --> 00:09:17.839 those subdivisions, there's no pedestrian uh connections available as well. Um we would be able to um you know provide potentially a second pedestrian bicycle access within the pond track out 23 00:09:17.839 --> 00:09:34.000 to Lester Road, but um otherwise, you know, there's no real way for us to interconnect. >> Was that a planning department comment? >> It is a planning department comment. >> All right. I think that's based on the transportation element. that comment is I think in the past we have allowed like 24 00:09:34.000 --> 00:09:50.800 an offshoot like a path leading from the culde-sac out to the main way. Um that's something we could take a look at and get back with you on though. >> Fantastic. Thank you. Any any questions for me? >> Do you have any questions for the applicant? Anybody? 25 00:09:50.800 --> 00:10:07.279 >> Okay. All right. We still got some outstanding work to do on this one. Uh with that planning recommended I do want to add that once all the comments are satisfied then you get your approval uh based on the cons comprehensive plan land development code this is under 25 26 00:10:07.279 --> 00:10:24.640 lots so it's only a DRC level approval please >> no comments >> how it works >> just you know the comments that I gave you address all of those >> yep we will >> okay fire >> no comments thank you >> building >> nothing thanks >> thank you we'll look for your re middle 27 00:10:24.640 --> 00:10:42.399 >> thank Thank you. >> Okay. Next item. Uh 1920 Sheila Park construction site plan first submitt June's project manager. >> So this is Schiller Park construction um Shilla Park subdivision CSP. Um just let 28 00:10:42.399 --> 00:10:59.040 you know that it MDP is currently scheduled for um tonight's um city commission meetings. Uh location is 1920 Sheller Avenue fuchsia land use residential low zoning is RTF. Um they 29 00:10:59.040 --> 00:11:16.959 originally proposed 115 units for MDP with the CSP they reduced their units to 109. Um and storm tract increased from six about 6 acre to 9 acre. These are 30 00:11:16.959 --> 00:11:35.120 major changes from MDP to CSP and public is available for any questions. >> All right, the applicants in attendance. Do you have any questions or comments for the DRC? >> Yes, good morning. Uh Mark Stey, Pave 31 00:11:35.120 --> 00:11:51.279 Dawson, 2602 East Livingston. Uh just a couple items I wanted to go through. Um, one of the main items we have to work through on the project is um, the carst matter. Um, and the condition that was 32 00:11:51.279 --> 00:12:06.959 set there um, or conditions were uh, depending upon what would would predicate whether the uh, infrastructure within the subdivision would be privately or publicly owned and maintained. So, we know we need to address that. Um, and uh, representatives from Universal are here 33 00:12:06.959 --> 00:12:23.760 today. um they will be reaching out um I'm not sure is a Vlad they should reach out to or should they reach out to you to discuss >> uh either one and did you see my last comment we've actually asked a geotech to look over yes the report and to make any recommendations for any other 34 00:12:23.760 --> 00:12:39.120 investigation >> yeah that's fine and it would make sense for them to be involved in the discussion in terms of the scope of that study so that when it's prepared and presented it's providing the documentation that you all are looking for um so with with respect to that then I I I wanted to touch a couple of the 35 00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:54.720 comments here. Um, number one was uh from the uh public services with respect to MSBU. Um, so obviously if if some of the if uh the infrastructure is deemed to be private, uh that would resolve some of these things, but if it was 36 00:12:54.720 --> 00:13:11.200 going public, I believe the um requirement for the MSPU came up during the uh MDP process. So would if if it was public infrastructure would the city not want >> we typically don't do an MSBU >> okay >> for uh for the storm water for the 37 00:13:11.200 --> 00:13:26.959 roadways the MSBU will be for the street lighting but you know >> so just for street lighting >> right so the HOA would be responsible to maintain the storm water and when we get into the platting process of we'll have an emergency easement over the storm 38 00:13:26.959 --> 00:13:42.000 water pond just in case something correct happens that we have to go in there and do something to prevent houses from flooding. >> Okay. So, we'll revise that note to reflect MSPU would just be for street lighting. Uh if the roads p public, I should say. Um 39 00:13:42.000 --> 00:13:58.720 uh number two um so again if the roadways are public where the storm sewer is going through a drainage easement and that storm sewer is conveying 40 00:13:58.720 --> 00:14:15.519 uh the drainage from the public roadway system. Would the city not want the ownership and be ability to maintain those storm pipes? Um, so if we had like a storm in the back of lots, I would consider that a private easement. The 41 00:14:15.519 --> 00:14:31.519 facilities private. Um, but once the storm starts collecting the roadway, and if the roadway is public and it's collecting and conveying the storm storm water from the uh public roadway, I would think the city would want the ability to maintain those pipes. >> And you're correct, but the notes on 42 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:49.199 there says that all the easements are dedicated to the HOA. >> Correct. >> Be dedicated to us and not to the HOA. >> Correct. that the one note I do need to address and I'll have a separate one for the private. I just wanted to confirm that one. >> Okay. >> Um number five you noted about um I 43 00:14:49.199 --> 00:15:05.680 guess number five and and number eight kind of play together. So um we number eight was with respect to the inlet types. Um and the comment being that this uh to use type one through four only. We had five and six proposed. Uh we proposed the five and six because 44 00:15:05.680 --> 00:15:23.040 that places the uh storm pipe under the curb line versus five feet off the back of curb. Um and the reason is because we do have the reclaim and force main running along as well as street trees um in the public right of way. 45 00:15:23.040 --> 00:15:39.360 >> Okay. Have you ever tried to get into those inlets and do any maintenance? It's almost impossible >> which is fine. >> So that's why we want to four. And I and one of the other comments I told you to put the force man in the 10-ft easement behind the right of way. >> Correct. And so I just wanted to make sure that that that was the reason. So 46 00:15:39.360 --> 00:15:54.720 if we go to the the type one to two, uh the force man would would push into um the utility easement on the lot. >> Correct. >> Um is a with the street trees being in the grass strip between the curb and the 47 00:15:54.720 --> 00:16:11.279 sidewalk, it would put it over the storm pipe. Typically a lot of municipalities if the street trees are over that they want like a minimum cover uh on the pipe >> and your and your pipe's already too deep as it is which >> there are a couple and we'll we'll take a look at those. We like to get comments 48 00:16:11.279 --> 00:16:27.600 before we start value engineering the project. >> Let me ask Bobby. Can the street trees be moved to a landscape easement? >> I don't think there's anything that says that that can't happen. >> Okay. So >> if that's your preference, again, if it if it's if it ends up being the city's 49 00:16:27.600 --> 00:16:51.839 infrastructure, then I want to make sure that we're right >> putting in a situation best for you all. >> Yeah. I really don't want trees planted on top of the storm drain. >> Okay. So trees will move then. Um, and then he had a comment about uh the 50 00:16:51.839 --> 00:17:08.240 jogging trail should not be on the maintenance BM. And so I just wanted to touch base um what was driving that and what would preclude that >> maintenance equipment on the jogging burn. You're going to tear it up if you have to go in there and do anything to the pond >> which is a private privately owned. as 51 00:17:08.240 --> 00:17:24.959 long as you're aware of that, you know, you know, there's going to be an emergency easement if we have to get in there and we really don't want to repair a jogging path if we're fixing, you know, >> correct. And we can note that the HOA would be responsible for and and the reason I'm asking is obviously this is a 52 00:17:24.959 --> 00:17:41.520 a big depression. You see, we have a lot of topography that we're working through here and trying to get that jogging trail. We're already having uh slope issues getting down and so putting a dragon trail on the flat maintenance berm works for us. When we start moving it outside that we have to start building more walls and stuff and so 53 00:17:41.520 --> 00:18:00.080 it's more problematic for us. >> As long as you acknowledge that we're not going to have to repair it if we have to go in there. That's fine. >> Yep. >> That's uh that's all I had. I appreciate everyone's time. >> Any questions for the applicant? All right. planning has nothing further 54 00:18:00.080 --> 00:18:16.559 other than comments that you were given. Uh those have to be resolved prior to us uh recommending approval of the project construction site plan tonight. We got the major development plan at city council. Um so >> police anything comments? >> Public works. >> We've heard most of my comments. >> Okay. Fire. 55 00:18:16.559 --> 00:18:29.880 >> No comments. Thank you. >> Building. >> I don't have anything. Thank you. Thanks so much. >> All right. Um any items for discussion? Hearing none. We're return.