Morning. Morning. We'll call the November 5th, 2025 DRC meeting to order. We'll start with roll call. Community developments. Present. Uh, police. Andrew King. Public works. Dale Smith. Fire. Jeremyfield. Building John Hansen.
All right. We have one special event this morning. Lexi from recreation here is here. It's Tea Dogs Big Dreams Charity Incorporated. So, this event is an R&B Southern Soul Picnic Picnic Fest. It's a fellow celebration slash festival with DJs, R&B
music, and karaoke. It'll be at the Popka Amphitheater on Saturday, January 17th, um, 2026 from 400 p.m. to 10:00 p.m. There'll be about 2,000 people. They are planning to hire a private security company, but they have not told us which company that is yet. Um, they
will also be hiring off duty. There will be alcohol. Um their setup includes 10 by10 tents, food trucks, stage production, and vendors. And parking will be on barbecue row and the surrounding complex parking areas. And we'll have our um parking company
assisting with parking those cars. Um setup will begin the day before on January 16th at 9:00 a.m. and they will be utilizing two to three entry gates to get patrons in depending on their um attendance. Any questions in regards to this?
All right. Community development has nothing further. Police, no comments. Uh, public works, no comments. Fire, no comments. Thank you. And building? I don't have anything. Thank you. All right. Thank you, Lexi. Thank you. Next item is the Ridge Ridgebrook Plat
is the project man. Good morning, everyone. So this is a plat for the Ridgebrook subdivision uh which is um north of Leester and west of uh Plymouth Sarrento. It the plat consists of uh 86 lots all single family
homes. Uh zoning is RSF1B future land use residential low suburban. Um applicant is in seems like the applicant is not in attendance today. It does not appear the applicant is in attendance. And I'll just add that this is a plat um and it is the major development plan was approved by the
city council I believe back in the summer on this and it's platt uh new platting laws only requires an administrative level approval. Uh community development has nothing further. Police no comments. Public works. Yeah, I posted my comments about some
easements and some of the language on the plan. Okay. All right. Thank you. Fire. No comments. Thank you. And building? I don't have anything. Thank you. Thank you, Amir. Yep. All right. I was wondering why you're standing. Yeah. Yeah. The next one on the agenda.
I looked at the agenda. I'm like, the next one's mine, too. [laughter] I should have just made it awkward. Just let you stand there, right? All right. Logistics. All right. So this is a major development plan for submitt for the cold link logistics and for um it's a
new 1 147,624 square ft building to an existing uh it's to the existing coing logistics sites. They're um adding an additional building and uh zoning is light industrial future land uses industrial.
Um applicant is in attendance for and along with staff with further comments or questions. All right. And the applicant is here. If you wouldn't mind coming and addressing the DRC. I know you received comments. If you'd like to discuss those, now is your opportunity. Josh Enley
Horn South or 200 South Orange Avenue, Orlando, Florida. Um, yes. So, we did receive the the comments uh from engineering, planning, and fire. Uh, there are a few things we'd like to discuss on those. um mainly get clarification and kind of
talk through a few of them. U first I guess we'll start with the engineering. Uh so a couple of these all kind of tie together uh when it comes to Mayflower Drive. um on or on Mayflower.
Uh one of the big things is adding curb and gutter, extend the storm system all the way down to Lake View Drive, which would be down to the the bottom right hand corner of the screen here and then
also separate the storm water system. So Mayflower currently there's about like 16 feet of fall across that. So, in order to bring all that on on site, it's not possible because the Lake View Drive
is about 10 ft below our our bottom of pond. So, there's no way to really do that without running into the water table. Okay. If you can't bring it back to your pond, yeah, I understand that. But, you know, you're still going to have to catch the
water before it goes out onto Lake View Drive. So, how are you going to catch it, treat it, and then I guess put it across the street, right? So, so currently what we're we're doing is we're kind of we're trying to match existing conditions. Um, so
currently there's no curb and gutter on it. So, what we're doing is we're extending the shoulder and then creating some swailes to capture that and then use some check dams along the way to capture some of that treatment volume before it gets to Lake View Drive. So,
we won't be able to capture and store all of the runoff, but pre versus post will be less because we're putting these in swailes with those check dams. But we do want curb and gutter out there mainly to keep people from parking all over the rightway like they do now. Okay. So, maybe we can look at, you know, some
other ways of, you know, capturing that water. Okay. So, then, uh, with the limited amount of space, if we do curb and gutter, would we would you guys be open to flumes into swelles? We can we can talk about that. Okay. Okay. So, we can I don't think we need to design it here.
Yeah, we can set up a meeting and discuss that. Perfect. And then, you know, then the two inlets that you've got there. Yeah. I really don't, you know, because we're going to have to have an easement over that and into the pond because it is Yeah. You know, it's public water. And the reason why I want a separate
system is because you've got a 48 inch pipe going into the pond. I don't want to have to be responsible for maintaining a 48 inch pipe. Gotcha. So would it be okay if when we if we separate it it have a separate inflow into our pond and you just
maintain that 24 inch or whatever that go going into the pond. Correct. Okay. So we don't need a separate a separate pond or anything. No, you don't need a separate because you're going to you'll give us an easement into the pond. Right. You'll still maintain it. We'll have access and we'll have emergency rights over that pond which 16 feet of fall. I
don't think anything will be flooding up at the top of the hill. Right. Exactly. Okay. Perfect. Um, so I think that covers far as uh want [clears throat] to Mayflower subjects. Yes, I know we might have discussed this in the past. I got to refresh my memory on it. I apologize if we've talked about it, but um my my
my concerns are always the the snacking of your of your trucks coming in there. It's a big problem that we've had in the past. I've received multiple multiple calls regarding it. I mean, the residents there on the other side of Mayflower, trucks are parking, are listening to trucks pull up early in the morning while they're sleeping and
everything else and stacking outside of your Mayflower Road area. What are your goals and plans to correct that? So, so currently what we're doing is we're the Mayflower drives only 18 feet wide. So, we're changing that to be 34
feet, allow higher a wider area to kind of allow stacking not to necessarily occur on along Mayflower. Um, but your concerns are more for the the noise. Is that what you're saying? I mean, it's noise. It's it's trucks stacking outside there. It's um, you
know, people coming out of their house and seeing road trucks parked in front of their houses across the street from Mayflower trying to, you know, getting up in the morning and having semiis parked up front of their house. So, I don't think I'd be a big fan of that either. No. Um, that's just it's just not working. And if you're going to stack them, you know, my concerns also is where we
getting how we getting fire equipment in there. You know, is there going to be access for us to get in there? Because as it is right now, we have a fire in there. We're dealing with stacking of trucks and the timing of it. Yeah. It might be bad, but I mean, we have trucks stock stacking up blocking a roadway. We can't make access to. Could you imagine us trying to get semis out of the way
for a fire to get in? Right. Exactly. Something that we have to address. Do we need no parking signs on Lake View? I would probably probably wouldn't hurt. Would you rather what? Sorry. No parking signs. You know, I've asked you to put no parking signs on Mayflower.
They might have them though. I'm not sure. Go visit that it becomes an enforcement issue, I guess. Yes. I guess operation. Yeah. How does it say? Yeah. Jackson Ghobe. I'm with Tipman Construction in partnership with Cold Link. I think it's also important to note the additional staging that we're
adding into the project. As you can see on the south side of the page here, kind of by the fire tank, then also the south side of that car parking lot that during peak hours will allow the trucks to get in through the gate and actually stage on site.
So you guys are you guys essentially are going to correct your gate issue where that they line up at the gate and can't get through because that's to me this is just an outsers's view. My view is that they line up at the gate and can't get past that point until they're checked in and that's what's becoming issue. Yes, Kevin, that's correct. So the plan
is to now by wind and lake view we can have up to six trucks stage there before they go all the way out to where any property would see them and then we're going to have a system to where they can check in come inside the property and stage. So we should never have a line back up there. I mean there's going to
be maybe a case here and there but ideally that's going to be accessible for more trucks or for case of an emergency or anything like that. Okay. Thank you. Okay. So, yeah, we'll take that into account for the Mayflower. Um, next question.
All the rest are very straightforward. Um, one of the other ones on here though that can't extend like a resubmitt uh was the basically asking it's almost like what you're asking for like a lift station report on this um uh
for the lift station. Uh currently we don't have any tie-in pressures for that the forcement that we want to tie into. You can request them. Correct. There's a process for doing that. Yes. Yeah. And so we'll we'll request those. With this being an MDP,
um we want to basically move this along as quickly as possible. So that's why we provided a ton of detail up front. Um, but would we be able to kind of defer that to the CSP process while we're requesting those now and going through that that process?
That'll be fine. All right. Perfect. Okay. So, I think engineering wise that covers what we what we needed to or areas that we had questions on. Next, as did you see how I'm limiting your
discharge out of the site? So it's number seven, the proposed spider swell. So in other words, you've got a 700 foot long path that your pre-development discharge is going into. Mhm. Correct.
We've been getting a lot of complaints about these spreader swailes because they actually become point discharges and when you get a point discharge, you lose your right to discharge onto the downstream property. Correct. So what I'm saying is you take that I think it's 94 cfs you divide it
by you know the 700 and then you take the width of your spreader swale and that's the most I'm going to allow you to come out of it at that point. So you either need to extend that spreader swale quite a bit more or maybe we need to talk about total retention. And so
you're talking about the width of the um it's kind of like east on the plan east west that width. Yeah. I'm talking it's the north south. In other words, I measured you know from 441 you down to the street and that's a little over 700 ft. Correct.
And you take that 700 ft and you take your 94 cfs and it'll give you a discharge per foot. Correct. Swale is I think 120. So you get that number times 120 and that's the most you're going to be able to discharge and pretend that you still have sheet flow
onto their property. Okay. Yeah, understood. And then with that too, we're also going to be providing like a curb for that level spreader along that whole length to to keep that point discharge from happening. But yes, we can extend that. We we
definitely have the space to do that. Um and we can show that calculation. Okay. Was there any other comments um that you wanted to clarify or additional comments? U yeah that's you know the major thing
you know. Okay. And then we'll we'll set up a a separate call to go over Mayflower and talk through how we're going to handle the the drainage curb and gutter all of that. Next I'd like to move over to the
planning comments. Um, one of just going down the list to the ones that we have questions on. Number eight, the Shepard Avenue. The qu there is essentially a question is Shepard Avenue right away being improved
with Mayflower Avenue. Um, but I believe Shepard Avenue was vacated a while back and so currently we're not seeking to improve Shepard Avenue. That's where we're putting the spreader swale and we have our our drive-in for the for the
employees on on this site. Um is to avoid like an additional comment is there when we say no, we're not going to improve it which Shepard Avenue would be this vacated right away here or are you talking about the
extension of the forest man? No, it was just the what was shown on the plan. I just wanted I couldn't tell then if you were improving it along the Mayflower or not, but just wanted to confirm that that you are or not. Okay. Then so if we're saying no, there's not going to be like an additional comment. No, no, it was just it was just uh
because you say you were going to do Mayflower, I couldn't tell if you were just doing both shepherd and Mayflower or just Mayflower as you stated. Got it. Okay, perfect. [snorts] Um, next one. It was a second entrance to
the development. So currently there's two entrances off of Mayflower for this portion of the site. One here for the for the employees and then one here for the the trucks. And then additionally on the the wider view there's this property
extends much further north. There's another entrance that fire or trucks could come through off of 441. Okay. Yeah. I could not tell if that was cuz here looked like there was no connection to the rest of the site. So yeah, there there isn't one here. Is
that the require for this to count? This would need to be connected. You would need to connect it to the rest of the site. Okay. And otherwise, we couldn't consider that as a the access on 441 you're speaking of as of right now. Is it just chain fence chain lock is?
It's I believe it it has a a gate currently. Is that on the north side next to the office? Yes, there's a gate currently. All right. Um I [clears throat] will ask for upgrades to where we can have access to get in there is it we can discuss that offline however you want to go
about it but my gate requirements are going to be the same either or so update access points which I think I put in there we're looking for like a click to enter type access point where we can make access click to enter y okay [snorts] and then so do we if we upgrade this or
we we're adding this gate upg grading this upgrade the one over here. Do we still need this connection here? I mean, is it going to connect to the rest of the site? All of the site? This one? No, but this one goes all the way through and then up. Is the 441 entrance going to connect to the rest of the site?
Yes. Um, would you be able to scroll? Can I scroll? Um, just go up two sheets. One more. So here, I guess we don't have like the building shown, but there's an entrance here that connects through here. There's
a drive that goes all the way up. Yeah, you would have to show that it connects to that. We have it on the plan that okay, you have to access either you connect this to the rest of site or you'd have to show that entrance connected to the proposed expansion.
Okay, perfect. Um here and then this one the next or I guess I skipped over one was the the loading births. Uh so if we could go back to the the other sheet um loading birth at least 15 ft wide. Oh, one more
down. Sorry. And for these you're you're essentially talking about the the dock doors here. The loading area. Okay. And is that mainly for striping? It needs to be 15 foot wide or do the
doors need to be 15 feet on center. Uh from what the code stated, let's see the loading area like the area of where the truck serving park. Okay. So, um
yeah. So for that one, um, right now we do stripe narrower. That's more of a to direct the truck in. So they're not offc centered on the actual door itself. But our center to center currently is on average 14T6
and that's pretty industry standard. Um, as far as what we build, you know, for cold link themselves and everybody else. Um our concern is if we go to 15 foot which would basically be a 15 foot center on center on those doors we are adding you know upwards of 15 foot to
this building by some 300 foot long. Um it's a major cost when industry standard from you know everything we typically build is in that 14 and a half foot range. I understand but like you know if the code states that it needs to be minimum 15 each of them it has to be 15 because
it's stated in the code. Is is there a variance that we can apply for? Uh you have to provide hardship that you can't meet the 15 ft. If you can meet the 15 ft then there's no the way we would have a variance. You have to provide hardship.
Yeah. I think this is the first project we've had where somebody has stated they can't meet it. Usually people can meet the 15t. Sounds like you only got six inches differential. Yeah. It's at 6 in, but it's 22 doors.
And let us take a look at the code. Mirror and I will look at it and see what's in there also and we'll get back with you. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Uh and then the next one was the last comment on the
the environmental site assessment. I know we we had completed it for the the two properties that are being added to this property um or the phase one environmental assessment for wanting to include the entirety of the
of this whole property. Is that for the entire property or just the area of disturbance? I mean it it's currently operating as industrial. It's going to be industrial. It would be any part of the property where you're have your site plan is included for. So anywhere you're
constructing. So I can tell like the building itself takes over those two properties that were annexed and correct. But then you're also including parking into the existing parcel. So that parcel is like all one. So you're going to have to include that entire cooling logistics.
Okay. And so do we need to include all of these existing buildings? Yeah. Because they're all in one parcel. Okay. Not not just the limits of disturbance or not just it would have to be all because they're all in one parcel. Okay. Separate parcels then no but because they're all in one parcel.
Okay. And then last question, which I think is more of the the absence of a comments, but we we did provide a TIA um for this site that included offsites improvements for Mayflower and then
off-site improvements for 441. Um those are what's required by the TIA. But we want to make sure that we're I guess all on the same page because this was a big comment that came up at planning board, city council during the annexation process. Um are there any
additional offsites that are going to be required of us? Was there any comments on the TIA? Um we we really want to make sure we iron this out prior to moving forward. Make sure we have staff support when we're going to planning board and
city council. Hey, Bill. Would you like to address that? Okay. So, um, would we be able to follow up at a certain time? When when do you think you'd be able to have comments? By the end of the week. End of the week.
Okay, perfect. Okay. Yes. Um, in reference to the green building code comment, um, we were kind of flipping through that and out of curiosity, there was I think it's number five kind of listed under that section
there. Um, it was if the expansion is less than 50% of existing, you were exempt from it. Is that true? Uh, I'd have to take a look in the code and see it, but I I'll get back to you. Okay.
How large is the expansion? 140 140,000. How large is the existing building? Okay. All right. We'll get we'll look into it. Yeah, absolutely. But it's good to know those figures. All right. You guys have anything else?
covered everything on my list. Yeah, I think we're we're covered on it. So, okay. Any questions for the applicant? Any additional questions? You are addressing the fire comments with the auto turn and things I have put on there. Okay, cool.
Just Yeah, for the auto turn and the comments that you provided on the online portal. Yes, we'll be addressing those. All right. Thank you. All right. Community development has nothing further. We got a couple items to check on. Get back to you. Police. Anything else?
No comments. Public works. No additional comments. All right. Fire. No comments. Thank you. Building. All right. Thanks. All right. Thank you, gentlemen. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. The next item is item number two, the MDP for the Fidian Town Center Hotel.
The applicants requested this item be continued to the November 19th meeting. Uh they had some internal issues they wanted to look at. Uh the next item is the ridge [clears throat] con ridge PD parcel 6C revision construction site plan for
good morning. This is the revision to the CSB for the rich 6C. Um the main um instigator of this really is because um as you all know we have a half interchange ramp coming onto um Bignyan
uh Boy Scout and Bignyan Road and so we had to make or the ridge had to make some changes to to their turn lanes and some improvements on the Boy Scout ride ofway. Um, there are also a lot of utility obviously utility revisions that
they're proposing on here. Um, I didn't get any comments from DRC. Dale, did you have any comments on this? They were posted after you closed it. Okay, I will reissue them. Um, and I don't know if George George Oh, there
you are. So, George, I will reissue these comments Dale had. probably have seen it um on the portal and um by the uh co today. Yes. So we this George VHB 225 East
Robinson Street uh Orlando. Um we so we received the common letter. We didn't really see anything on public works. We saw that modifications been reviewed and accepted. So, yeah, we accepted. That's the only comment that I had. I had I like that comment. Okay. Yeah.
Well, actually, I had looked through all of it. I know y'all had wanted to start on the fire lines early and I had sent something actually directly on Friday for that. Absolutely. Because um they're they're eager to start going vertical otherwise it would come to a halt on their
construction. So, they need their fire hydrants to be live before they can do that. just kind of looking at the on-site contractor didn't realize he had a permit to do the work that he was doing and it was approved back in February. Lovely. Well, it's a good surprise. So, we got [clears throat] you don't get
many of those. We got that straightened out also. Awesome. Perfect. Um I didn't see any comments on on from any department. So, I don't know if there's any additional ones. Do you want any comments?
No. Absolutely not. Uh something else. You want a good surprise? I I'll get out of here before you guys. That's always a good idea. Yeah. All right. Anything? Any questions or comments? Any
surprises? All right. Community development has nothing further. Police? Nothing further. Public works, nothing further. Fire, no comments. Thank you. Building. All right. Thank you. Thank you, George. Thank you. All right. Any items for discussion? [clears throat]
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