good morning We'll call the April 9th 2025 development review committee meeting to order Uh we'll start with attendance Community development is present Police Mike McKinley public works will not be in attendance today Fire Jeremy Holderville and building John Hansen's here Okay So we have two
items on the agenda The first is uh special exception Joy Child Academy It's to allow a daycare center in a residential zoning district And June Song is the project manager Good morning The applicant has requested special accession permit for child care facility
on 4410 and 4420 Chandler Road The total size of the property is 5.12 acres um with the future land use of residential very low suburban and RSF1A zoning district The properties currently
used for residential and vacant and proposed to use for child care facility is permitted to use with a special exception The surrounding properties has has land use of residential with a single family houses and public school which is Kelly Park School is within 1.1
mile from the properties The the applicant is available for any questions All right Any questions of June or the applicant i do Um is this strictly going to be daycare or is it going to be a school slash daycare you're going to have to
come up to the mic I'm sorry Yeah if you could come up to the mic so we can get it all Yes Um hi my name is Camila Um we will be opening a daycare It'll be from infant to 12 year olds We will only give from
uh infant to fivey old uh care and then before and after for 5 year olds to 13 years old Okay So there's no intent for it ever to become a school No that's not my concern is is parking Um because we
already get complaints about the traffic because of the K through8 down the street and if you don't have the property or the parking means to ensure that people aren't going to be backed up onto Kell uh Jason Dwelli then that's going to create an issue but if you only
have daycare I don't think it's as much of an issue as start and stop times with a school It's only going to be a daycare Okay We've been um in the business for over 16 years here in Apopka So we're not planning to change it Are you moving
from another location or yes Apopka Child Academy It's our first location Okay And this will be our second one Okay Thank you You're welcome Any further questions for the applicant all right Hearing none Community Development has nothing further than
what June presented Please anything additional i don't have anything else Thank you Fire No comments building I don't have everything Thanks All right Thank you very much And June we'll be in contact with you about public hearing dates and scheduling to take it forward
Yes ma'am Painless huh have a good day All right The next item major development plan Spring Haven formerly known as Chandler Hills I'm the project manager This is a major development plan in the KPI The city council recently
approved a master plan and resoning to allow this as a KPI development This is the major development plan If I can get it to load on the screen which appears like it won't Um it's consistent with the master plan that was approved by the city council The applicants here in
attendance Did you have any questions or comments for the DRC okay Yeah I believe the public services or public works comments are still outstanding We'll get those for you Any questions or comments from the development review committee on this one
have we resolved Chandler Road the what i'm sorry I'm sorry Class A engineering Sorry What are we doing with Chandler Road or the alleged Chandler Road or no Chandler Road or we're dedicating the 50 foot of rideway that we have on the um west side of the
project the development to the um west of us Uh IMB Homes is doing a portion of it and they're saving the commercial to the north They would whenever the commercial comes in dedicate the rest from my understanding So is it gonna be a road is it not going
to be a road i mean we were asked to dedicate right away on our west side and so we we're doing that Yeah They dedicated a range I believe between 15 and 50 ft for Chandler Road So out of all these developments that are going to be up in that area who's going to be
responsible for making it a road is the city probably be the city eventually Yes Um one other question I think you and I have talked about this in the past Luke but when you do your traffic study is it taking into account all the subdivisions
that have been planned on Kelly Park Road prior to your approval because those are impacting the traffic It shouldn't be a traffic study that's done on the current traffic conditions because the subdivisions that are are under construction or been approved
before your project's been approved are impacting those numbers My understanding so uh the traffic consultants that we use typically couple different ones My understanding is they submit what's called a methodology report to the city and the city will respond and say not only here's the exact because they'll
have the background data they call it So they'll go and get trips currently So that gives them like the current snapshot today trips being generated And then they go to the city and say "Okay what other projects have been entitled or are under construction or are about
to come align within the one mile and two mile radius?" And then they take those into account as well That's my understanding of how methodology works But I don't get too deep into the traffic uh I do the design for the turn lanes once a traffic engineer does the report and tells me what turn lane improvements have required But that's my
understanding is yes they do Do you know if that's what's happened Bobby that's my understanding But I am not a a traffic planner Um that's not my realm of expertise So I'm a land use planner but traffic is a specialized thing that usually like he was saying a
transportation planner or transportation engineer will conduct the research and then it's reviewed by someone here It's my understanding that's been reviewed by our public works staff Like for instance for this one they did take into account the INB development um to the west even
though that's not even under construction They're about where we're at I think they're moving forth their construction plans right now So they're maybe a couple months ahead of us but they took them into account as the proposed to add them to the background trips And then they assumed a the IMDb
development assumed a standard commercial because you don't know what is going to come on the north side adjacent park they assumed a standard commercial like trip generation because it's a big difference if you do a Starbucks versus a dry cleaner you know what I mean um and so they they just
assumed some kind of value for trips generating commercial and our traffic engineer took those trips as well So they they included those trips as background data or as existing quote unquote Yeah You don't know who on our who in the city reviews that it's my
understanding right now it's been Diana Aladovar Who diana Almadovar Oh yes Yeah All right I'll I'll check She reviewed this one I know for sure Well I just want to make sure that we're as a city looking at all these developments that we have under construction or planned as these new developments and requests for
developments come in that they're taking into consideration the traffic impact that the ones that are already approved or under construction are creating to that road and not just going by existing conditions And I think if if we're not we need to And if the code doesn't you
know stipulate that it probably should because we got a lot of things going on And for a subdivision of this size especially to come in and not take into account the other um subdivisions that already have been planned or approved that are going to impact the infrastructure of that road
then we're missing the ball I I want to say your code does state that in the methodology requirements and that is what has occurred on this project Um the only thing that's in question is what commercial goes in to the west northwest uh because you just don't know But they
assumed a generic commercial value of trips generator I don't think that piece of property is big enough for too much of an impact But I think the cell phone tower really restricts it But I don't I haven't I don't I'm not their engineer I don't know exactly what they've planned But uh I know that they're actively
marketing it right now for something Okay Thank you No problem I did also want to ask police There's on this property there's a total of like I forgot where it is 16 nurseries um three homes and a couple barns Would
the police or fire want to use them to have fun and blow them up or do hostage situations we may want it as a training opportunity You have you have Sergeant Harmon's phone number Can you reach out to him and just coordinate whether or not um we would like to do training or the SWAT team would like to do training
on that property the only thing I was worried about is because it's next to the school it we're directly adjacent but we're it's a big enough property where I think you can give good space from that and do whatever drills you want Well as long as we notify the school or we just don't use anything significant during it could still be a
training opportunity without you know loud noises Okay this developer is more than willing to give that to sign the hold harmless letter whereas I know the last one I tried to do that developer was not as willing to do that I appreciate that No problem for what
what's the time frame on this is the MDP We've already started the CSP We're probably six months give or take from approval assuming everything goes well Okay cool Yeah Um I'll email our training chief on that So probably six six to nine months before their
construction would start See around the six month mark works great for us Yeah they they should close around then Yeah And I know Chief mentioned Chandler Road What's going on with it we're still going to have access to rest of Chandler Road during construction It's not going
to cause us issues getting back on Chandler Road to any of the properties No we're not even we're not improving Chandler Road We're just dedic So right now it's kind of a weird situation Currently that 15oot strip is actually owned by Orchid Estates's HOA Doesn't make sense and I agree It
was a mess up back in the day We're trying to fix the problem Um so it's currently a private track It's not a road And a couple of the properties that access off there actually don't have easements They have historical right They've accessed it for years so we're not trying to deny them access but they
it's not currently set up correctly where they have legal rights to access the road We'll take the existing 15 foot that goes north south and the section that we have more property because there's a portion that's that's to the west of that existing nursery that's right there
on the southeast corner and that's not part of our project They're not willing to sell I forgot the name of the nursery but I can look it up for you But that's the only portion that's like not part of our block So we only have 15 feet there We're dedicating that as public right away And then right when our property starts and expands we're dedicating the
full 50 feet so that it's set up to become a road in the future but um timing of that I don't know I'll go and take a look I know we have an emergency access to Oak Hill correct yeah that's on the We're maintaining that There's there's an emergency access on the south
Uh and that's it's in the plan but I know we can't bring it up Um we're maintaining that access So we're not doing any improvements It's going to stay exactly as is You have the emergency access and then there's actually one resident down there that owns 10 acre It's either five or 10 acres He's staying and he does not want to sell All right At the very right past
the emergency access his that last parcel he's he's the one hold out Okay Thank you Your construction traffic is going to come off Kelly Park Correct Yeah We're not we're actually going to block off even when we do the construction We're not going to give our residents access to Chandler Road unless
um it gets expanded in the future But we're not because we're not improving it We're just going to build the that access point like a future stepout but then block it off But all our access is coming off Kelly Park And I want to make sure the road is not going to deteriorate by construction use or construction vehicles because there are going to be homes back there that we're
still going to have to be able to access Correct Especially the fire truck And we're also doing a p I know that the new reg rule that you'd like is we're doing a concrete paved access that connects to that Orchid Estates 20 foot uh emergency access strip We're doing our lift station up there and then we're building
a a concrete strip to connect to that I think theirs is not paved That was before um you asked it to be paved but up to our property line we'll pave ours with concrete is what what's currently planned Thank you So you'll have that access and then there's also a future step out at
the north west um north of the school for whatever goes in there I was actually thinking it' be make a lot of sense to a daycare but now I see the daycare's going to the south So um whatever goes there in the future you'll be able to connect to that as well Off Jason Valley no problem
Any other questions all right Hearing none community development has nothing for the police I don't have anything else Thank you Fire No comments Thank you Building I don't have anything Thanks All right Thank you Luke For the reason Okay Any other items for
discussion hearing none we're adjourned