Call the May 21st city council meeting in order. We'll read the decorum statement and states, "Welcome to the public meeting of the city council of the city of Apakka. Please turn off all cell phones or set them to silent. The city council permits and encourages input and comments by members of the
public on all matters which may come before the council for action. If you wish to address the council this afternoon or evening now, please make sure you have filled out a card with your contact information and presented it to the clerk. When called upon, please proceed to the podium and speak
clearly into the microphone, stating your name, address of record, organization, if any, and direct your comments to the city council and not to individual commissioners, staff, or members of the public. The council and the city staff encourages constructive criticism. However, personal attacks are
prohibited. Please observe general rules of decorum and civility. Speakers and members of the audience shall refrain from rude or derogatory remarks, shouting disruptions, reflections as to integrity, slander, abusive comments, profanity, vulgarities, and statements as to personalities. Any violations of
these provisions may result in the issuance of a verbal warning, including warnings for trespass. If violations persist after such warnings, violators may be removed from the council chambers. All right. Public comment. Susan, Dr. O.
I am supervisor Dr. O from the orange soils water soil water conservation district. I'm seat three and the address is 220 South Roseland Avenue. Um we
represent um the safety and purity of your water and soil and the intention is to protect the aquafer and to protect your health and to preserve agriculture in the area
as well as the environment. The whole idea is and it's been going on for a century protecting the area and the soil and the water. We want to make sure that what goes in the lakes, what goes in the streams, and what ends up in the aquifer is safe to come back up for you to
drink. So, we want you to remember this when you're working on um flooding issues, when you're working on drinking water issues. um what goes into and gets moved around on surface water and what's ends up in the storm water drains is
clean or it goes through a reclamation process before it ends up going down into the aquafer. Um we're meet on the second Friday of the month and um at
Rosalind Avenue um at the county um meeting hall and it's at 3:30 p.m. and you're welcome to come. It's also broadcast on Orange TV. Um you're allowed to come make public comment uh
contact us. Um, there are five of us and you're allowed to ask questions. You're allowed to bring issues to us that you want looked into. Um, citizens are allowed to, um, bring issues up. Uh, one thing is Border Lake has never been
tested for any chemicals. Um, it has been tested for height, elevation, but has never tested for chemicals. And so Orange D has been asked to be tested for chemicals. Um the state and the county both um have verified that no testing
has ever been done on that lake. And uh if if the mayor has said he's tested it, then um he hasn't relinquished it to the state because they have no record of it. So we'd like to see those copies. So, I'm formally asking you for those test
results and uh public record request is not needed from the commission. So, appreciate it and um love to have any questions from you at any time. Um communicate with me freely. Thank you.
Leroy Bell M Helen. Uh just a couple of things. Uh up at Ma Helen in our community. Uh the we just paved the whole community. And if you remember, I
told you that we have grass growing up through the asphalt already. But the point I want to make tonight, the excess, I guess, tarp and where they broke up this the sidewalk and
stuff. Uh, they didn't take this stuff away. They either throw it up in the grass or they throw it in the drainage. And the drain is just not clogged up up there. And we're now what, a couple of
days out, a couple of weeks out from the rainy season. Maybe five or six days for the rainy season. And we're about two weeks out from the hurricane season. So we already ran across the street there at uh Clear Lake Estate. We
already got a flooding problem there. So I think if we need to get ahead of this or can we get somebody out there to take a look at it? And secondly, the city is the monitor of the
dumps. Now they were relinquished. The city had well the uh the chamber, not the chamber, but the Rotary Club had
them a part of the Rotary Club at one time. You know, the young lady, she's no longer with y'all now. It's someone else. She got a better job down in Miami. I think you know what I'm talking about. But what I'm saying is the
contamination that's down there. We need to know what the contamination is because it's a threat to the health of the people in South Akapka. Not only South
Aka to the aquifer all the way up into the uh Wikawa basin because you know the fl uh the aquifer don't flow south, it flows north. And uh we need to know what
contaminants contaminants is in these dump wells down there and we would like to know. Thank you Christine Gonzalez. Good evening everyone. Um, I'm Christine
Gonzalez. I'm Cara Rumplick. Mike Rump. We're the owners of the Naughty Lobster Restaurant located at 311 South Forest Avenue. We've owned our business for almost four years and the years have been blessed with many amazing loyal customers, wonderful recognition, and awards. We're proud to be a part of this
community and feel as though that we've contributed to making a popka destination, bringing guests from all across uh the state of Florida, other states, and even internationally. Sadly, tonight we're here yet again to bring attention to challenges that we continue to face and experience surrounding our business. We continue to clean all areas
around our restaurant on a daily basis to ensure our guests have a great arrival and departure at our at our restaurant. We retrieve items such as broken bottles, dirty clothing, shopping carts filled with trash, and someone's personal belongings. These are frequently found in front of our restaurant, on our patio, by our front
door, and every nook under and on the bridge. We have found fecal matter and urine under the bridge, on the bridge, and on our property. Video footage was provided to Apakka PD of a man defecating and urinating, witnessed by two of our female employees. Most days
we find people camping on the sidewalk, under the bridge, oftentimes with sleeping bags, cardboard boxes, etc. Records show that we've appealed to non-emergency Apaka police roughly four to five times per month, sometimes every other day. While APD does respond and moves folks along, we're repeatedly told
that there's nothing that can be done as the unhoused are free to sit, stand, and sleep wherever they wish as long as it's not on our property and that they're not breaking the law. This area is clear as a is in clear view of our patrons entering and exiting our business. On a
recent Saturday afternoon, the busiest day of the week for us, we had a gentleman on the corner of our restaurant screaming obscenities and demonstrating disgusting gestures toward our guests as they entered our our restaurant to dine. We were advised by a customer entering the restaurant about the situation. Unfortunately, they were
not deterred by this person. When police officers arrived, we were asked if we knew what freedom of speech was. Clearly not the response we wish to hear. We have a brief video of this. Um, and it's just a glimpse of what went on for almost an hour. After calling Chief McKinley, he sent his watch commander to
talk to us, Lieutenant Torres. He apologized for the response we were g given. He also told us that we could have had him trespassed. We were unaware of this option as we've always been told that they are if they're not on our property, we have no rights. We've had people sleeping on the benches right in front of our door of our restaurant. We
don't know what the outcome was for one particular woman, but she was back the next night and the next. We arrived at a restaurant one early morning to find our flower pots destroyed, tossed all over our p our patio. We've put locks on our exterior faucets and outlets as people have bathed themselves using our water
faucets and using the outlets to charge their power to to charge their phones, excuse me. At 5:00 a.m. one morning, we had a gentleman yank our American flag out of its pole, ignite it, and walk away, leaving it burning. Our restaurant is a 100-year-old wood structure landmark. This this action could have
been catastrophic had there been the slightest wind. On many occasions, our customers dining on our outside patio or getting in and out of their cars have been approached for food that they that they are eating or money. One of our owners, elderly mother elderly mother was approached for money and out of
fear, she gave it to them. One of the persons with was bothering a guest on the patio actually came into a restaurant one day and started talking to a table of ladies. As soon as we realized that it was not someone that our customers knew, we told them to leave, which he did, but not before shouting explives. During one of our calls to
APD, they arrived with a civilian officer. In conversation with him, he stated that his wife does not come to the restaurant as she is afraid. How many more potential customers feel this way? Across the street, corner of South Forest Avenue and Third Street, we have an apartment complex that is run down and housing questionable people. We have
a footage of a man coming from that complex to a restaurant and stealing our employees bicycle. We have a collection of victim's rights brochures from calls made to the police department. No one ever follows up. We were asked to write a letter to the government to a government official requesting funds for
more police officer patrol via bicycle. From what we've heard, the funds were approved. Yet, we have not seen one bicycle in our area. As owners, we're concerned about the safety of our customers and our staff, not to mention the success of the restaurant. As this is our livelihood and that of our staff for almost four years, we've repeatedly
asked for assistance. While the Apka Police Department responds to our calls, and we appreciate any support they give us, we're extremely frustrated. We have video footage and photos of many of the mentioned scenarios and they speak volumes about the ongoing issue in Apakka. We would be happy to share these with the city council members um and the
mayor. We have all sorts of plans to modernize and improve our restaurant and we've got great ideas for the building we own across the street from the restaurant. All which would continue to drive business to Apakka. Given the past four years and what we've experienced, we're extremely hesitant to consider doing anything to the current
restaurant, much less the building across the street. Thank you for your time. Clinton Stanley 2002 Lockwood Drive. Um I'm back again about again the recreational facility of Lonzo William
Park. Why is we don't have the recreational complex that they have in the north side of town which we know as pawn can and we don't have those same amount of dollars or even half of those dollars spent in the south side of
Alonzo at Lonzo Williams Park. We over and over we said the car my truck is it sticks in the road when I park there. We don't have no electric outlets. We don't have no water. And a big thing is we don't have access to a bathroom because
we have cheerleaders and football players out there or either kids out there and there's no access to the the bathrooms there. Like you have access to every bathroom at Pawn Can. Every bathroom up there closes at 9:00.
And there's no reason why the bathrooms here should shouldn't be open until at least 7 8:00 at night. And so that's an issue that we're facing and we're going to continue to bring this issue up until we start to see a recreational complex
that's able to house a youth organizations like they house a youth organization in the north side of town. Baseball, football, basketball, track. Basically what to sum it all up, we need an upgrade in the recreational complexes
that sits in north in the south side of Apakka. And I'm gonna keep coming. I'm going to keep coming if I have to fill this room up with kids and ask you a simple question. What about us? What about the kids of South Paka that feels
like I don't I I'm not good enough to have a recreational complex, but I have to drive way up there every day and I see what they have up here. It's a what about us? So, I'mma keep coming and I'm going to bring my kids and it's going to
continue to ask the city council, what about us? What about the kids and what about the elderlys of this community? What about us? We need a nice walking park for the elderly. We need more of what they have in the north side of
town. And ain't no more about, oh, it can't be done. We know it can be done. And we know the dollars are there. It's about when it's going to get done. And who cares about it getting done? Virginia Street, 2119 Palm Vista Drive, Popka.
Um I want to congratulate uh first uh halls on fifth for the opening of their facility. I see great growth um and momentum as we grow our downtown experience. However, I have a witness I have
witnessed on several occasion adult drinking um during market on Fifth and I thought we agreed that we weren't going to allow that. Uh the
beer, the cocktails, the wine. Um you I've seen it more than more than five times. myself, you know. So, although some people might be comfortable with it, I'm not comfortable with it. And I thought
we agreed that we weren't going to allow that. It is being sold at some of the of those establishments. Nobody's bringing it in. You don't see a a bottle. You see it in a glass, which means that they're buying it from one of those one of the
places, one of the businesses. and people are just boldly walking and drinking and if we haven't agreed on it, it shouldn't be happening, you know. So, that is my first comment. Uh my second comment
is that um we made a motion to uh move the public comments back to the front and I appreciate that. Uh however um three minutes uh backing it down to three minutes I don't think is fair
um on all fronts. Uh and I would ask uh respectfully ask that one of the commissioners um would at least make a motion to move
it back to four minutes. I'm respectfully asking that to at least bring it back to where we had it before it got moved back three minutes because just moving it from the end to
the beginning you you know it's like we created the problem on oursel and then you want to try to fix it but then you want to take something back. Um I I I'm I just that one minute just bothered me all since the last um meeting that we
had. Uh lastly, this uh Sunday um is the fourth Sunday of the month. We will be at Just Like Mama's Feeding the Unhoused and the Needy at 5:30. And I invite you uh to at least uh
volunteer or send your support. Thank you very much. Good evening. My name is Dr. Jim Moyer. I'm elected Orange soil and water district 2 supervisor representing
northwest Orange County. I simply have a question because I'm unfamiliar with it. Um, it's my intention to go to all the municipalities that I I'm elected to
represent and do a presentation because I strongly believe that after 80 years of uh voting for soil and water conservation district uh people that the public needs to
understand the history and the purpose of it. I made my first presentation last night and so I'm asking I'm not going to take up a lot of time. I'm just simply asking what is the process to get on the
agenda to make a presentation. Last night's uh presentation was 10 minutes. I I would have preferred 15, but it went okay. So,
um, if someone would please get back to me and consider that, I'd greatly appreciate it. And God bless you all. Are we able to get him on the next agenda to do a concise presentation? Well, we don't normally presentations are done by staff members unless there's
a a like a finance. That means elected official though, too. Okay. I did I did kind of see the presentation you made at a party. It was very informative. I happened to talk to them
to their meeting. All right. Um we do have your email um if you would just send an email asking for the presentation and I'll forward that to the what you can
actually send it to the chief the chief administrator. And if you can just CC us on that email too, just so we know that it was sent. Thank you. Good afternoon. City Council, Mayor, everyone in the rightful place. Nikki Magcguire, Naomi
Kids. I'm not going to be using my full three minutes. Just have a quick question. And first of all, thank you to everyone of you who have supported Naomi Kids over the years and the general public, everyone who has contributed. We
appreciate it. I just have one quick question. We do not feel entitled. We're not looking for any special treatment, but with this current fiscal year, we're already we approaching 9 months or eight months into the fiscal year. Any one of
you, do you have any updates on the $100,000 that was budgeted for nonprofit organizations? Um, check the website. There is no information on when it will be available, how can we apply, how
just throw us a a bone, please. That's it. Thank you. Um, hello everyone. I'm Valerie Sparkman, um, the owner of Just Like Mamas, but this has nothing to do with Just Like Mamas. Um, I'm
actually on the committee for Apaka Junth. And Komi Jones is our president and she talked to Randall. Bless you. And I have several questions. I
don't know if they're supposed to be answered now or just commenting. Um we're looking. We found out that there's 12,000 dollars um provided for Junth and she was told that unless we
partner with the city, that's the only way that we can get these funds. Um, I don't know if that's the whole gist of it, but I'm my my thing is I we wouldn't mind
partnering with you guys, but we don't want the city to take over because this is our seventh year. Um, and we've been doing it with just donations to transform outreach. Um, donations and sponsorships. That's
what we've been doing it with. But if we can partner with the city and we wanted to know how soon will these funds be um available and distri distributed because June 10th is right around the corner. Our event starts um our celebration is
June 14th um Saturday June 14th and I don't know are you answering or am I just commenting? Yes. So, we had a discussion and a meeting uh with Miss Kiomi. Uh the partnership opportunity is typically for
larger scale events uh historically proven events. Um so Junth being in the seventh or eighth year now we could look at that. And typically these partnerships are to pay for some of the infrastructure costs and some of the services. Yes. cuz um we were told that
um it's like $3,000 for um officers to help with the parade and different we're getting charged. Last year they weren't we didn't get charged for it but this year we are. And so, um, and I know right here the farmers market, they get
free, um, free police. And, um, everything here on Fifth Street, um, when we have the, well, when they have the farmers market every Friday, um, that blocks off the street and all of this is for free. So,
um I'm asking that if we're going to have to pay now for a parade for a national event um June 10th, um I think that we should have the police for free and we should also be able to tap into
these funds that the city that the government gave to the city for this event Junth. So, I am I am concerned about that. What other items other than police? Uh how else can we partner with you other than police? Um the the cost
of the building. Um the insurance and that's for the the Billy Dean Center. Yep. The Billy Dean Center because we discussed it rightly in my that was one of the things I did bring up because that was one thing that was important making sure that we have that money and entertainment for this this the um entertainment cuz we can bring in
artists cuz that brings more you know um recognition to the the holiday because it is a national holiday now. So that I mean if we bring in like we can bring in different artists with if we had more money to work with. We've really been working with what what we've been given and I know one of the things that was
discussed in the agenda review meeting was that they it was really clear that we did not want the city did not want to come in and take over something that you guys are doing but the partnership would kind of help utilize those funds. Yes. And I I mean we we're ready to go because like right now it's it's May
21st and June 14th is around the corner and we want to you know and we just found out about this $12,000 that was um you know allocated for Junth. So we just found out about this. What did we provide last year? What did you guys provide? Yes sir. Or
how I guess how did we partner? Did we do did we do anything last year? Mm- you guys each one um donated I mean sponsored um you know a portion of that a portion I guess out of your own pockets. Okay city. Yeah I think you
were the highest you and Mr. Alexander. Okay. So so Rley I know we talked about it. What were some of the things that you came up with? So typically these things uh if you want to look at the Martin Luther King Jr. day parade that the city also uh has a special net license agreement with. Uh the city provides in that agreement or in that s
scenario uh police for the parade uh some infrastructure as in barricades, stage generator, some of the event infrastructure thought would be that the provi the partner would provide the entertainment,
the event planning, those type of operations. Yeah. Do we have a separate event planned? No. No, we don't. No. So, this is this is the event we didn't created. They started this plan back in and it's been going on for many years now. They
started this plan back in February. Um, so we didn't want to we did not want to get uh, you know, step on anyone. This is the event then and we've allocated the funds. Well, I think I don't think it's a matter of the city not wanting to I think they want to they're looking at a creative way because we we spoke about is that we want to make sure that we're not we want to make be part of what you
guys are doing. We don't want to do our own thing. We definitely want to be part of it because, you know, so I think it's more so just figuring out logistically what you guys need and the city supporting it. Okay. It's similar again very similar to what has been done for the Martin Luther King Day Junior Parade. Yep. And we um we sent the list in with everything that we needed. Um
last year we had a stage that cost $2,000 and we paid it with our own sponsorship, you know, funds that was donated to us. And this year we could we we cancelled that we cancelled the stage until um we found out about the $12,000 and then she talked to Randall and we
gave a whole another list and so now we booked the stage again. So So Rat is working with you all now to Rat working with him now. I don't know. We we met with Miss Komi uh yesterday I believe it was and so we did ask her to provide us some additional information
uh on the event uh to try and get that next step. We would have to come back to council obviously to finalize some things at this June 14th. And like when is that like because if we come back to the next meeting then it'll be after June 14th. Next meeting. Our next meeting is June
4th. But what you've already you've already sent a list or sent a list. She sent the list. I mean I already Are you for that to us, please? I Yeah, it's probably in our events division right now. So I can pull that and get it to you in the morning. Yeah. Okay. Cuz I I I was on the phone with her when I
walked in the door. So yeah, I think they're definitely okay because I mean that's we've allocated the funds and if this is the the event yes I think's definitely been working with her. I don't think it's a matter of just working out logistic yet. Well, it seems like they're not. I guess that's the sparkman and that's why I called her
because she said she wants to know when like she just not that he's not working with her. She just yesterday. Yeah, just yesterday. So it's not like he's not work I don't think he's not working with her. Yeah. So, I'll get that information that was sent in uh from Miss Komi and we'll send that to you in the morning.
Okay. So, I'm saying like So, you're saying June 4th is when you guys are meeting again? We'd have to bring it back as an agreement for final approval with council. But it it sounds like direction from council's to continue in that process to finalize that. Yes. To get the money. Uh so, but if we already
allocated $12,000, Yes. as long as you spend within the $12,000, you still need to bring it back. That's what I'm trying. No, this would be for the actual agreement to then go ahead and spend the money on that event. I mean, can can we agree? Do we have to bring it back? I What's the
procedurally? What can can we go ahead and allocate without coming back to us or how it would be the same special event license agreement that we've done with the Martin Luther King Day parade? Uh, marking off this street. Oh, yeah. The event. Yeah, that that it's that same agreement. Yeah.
Structured for this event, but then did the 12,000 do they have to then wait for that agreement to be approved for them to get the funding? So the city would pay for those items that we talked about, those infrastructure items. Yes. But we'd have to that agreement has to be approved
first. Ideally, yes, that agreement should be in place. So there could be an opportunity tonight to where we say matching the Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. parade agreements and all the other agreements that we have. Let's potentially approve it. If there's any tangible changes, then it comes back.
But at this point, let's approve it, get that funding going because then they have 10 10 days. Yeah. Okay. I believe that's up to your your pleasure. The uh special permit application, they did file all that. Um that's been actually in the packet for the road closure.
It's one of the most complete applications we've had. I will say that because we've been we've been under pressure for a long every year is something. So it was it's a tight application. So thank you for that. So So can we do that attorney? Are we allowed to do that? So we have the
application. Somebody said we can do it. The special permit application has been submitted because they were going through the permit process as a standalone. Um so we do have that. It's in the packet for the road closure. So, if you would like, it sounds like we can you can go ahead and uh instruct me to
finish the process with the special event license agreement that we've used in the past for the Martin Luther King Day parade and marking on fifth and we can go ahead and get that going. I say we should. Absolutely. Yes. Absolutely. And who who did we last year? What was the process for funding? How did that go
last year? Uh up to this point, it's been a standalone event. They've done they didn't have any funding. We we remember that was one of the line items that I advocate that I actually wanted to make sure that we separate so they can have the $12,000 because before it wasn't in the budget for it. Okay. Yeah. So, let's let's make sure that's taken care of and there's no delays. Thank
you. Thank you guys. Okay. All right. [Music] Albert 3603 Golden Gem Road. Just an observation. I come here and I often try to have dialogue with commissioners, but very rarely do you engage in dialogue
like you did with the last public speaker there. You know, if you're going to treat us equally, we should all be treated equally. I expect to get answers to questions. When I ask questions, I never get them. It goes from one week to another week. So, I'm going to piggyback
off of something our attorney mentioned tonight. I believe he spoke about an affidavit of completion and how the city would have to have one before it could pay for any work that was done by contractors. I see double standards here because on
numerous occasions I've asked the city clerk for a affidavit of completion or a certificate of competent completion uh for the pond at Golden Gem Road. The records request that I've had back have
said that documents do not exist and they were unable to supply me with them. So, can you explain to me why, and this is from memory because I don't have documentation here tonight, but in September of 2021, the city paid
2.1 million, I think it was 2,00 2,168,000 to a contractor for a pond liner in Golden Gem Road. That was on pond one. And I also requested information from through public records request for the cost of the liner on
pond two. We never got that. So my recollection is that we spend about $4 million in pond liners. So if we didn't have a certificate for the completion, why did we pay the money at the contractors? If we don't have a
certificate of completion, was it legal to fill that pond with water? If it wasn't legal to fill that pond with water, we have a problem because we're in deep dudu with FD. And I looked at the contractual obligations of the contracts that I received through
public records and it says that we required to have that in place before we filled the bonds. So we're still back speaking about Golden Gem Road Bonds. I'm still willing to to meet with with the mayor, willing to meet with commissioners. I have solutions. I have
a great new idea for Golden Gem Road that would align with some of what the mayor wants to do. I think we have an opportunity with Golden Gem Road. We don't just have a problem. But that's something that if you as commissioners don't respond to my emails, we're never
going to get anywhere. I have solutions. I'm prepared to bring them to you, but if you don't listen, then I can't help you. Sylvester Hall 391 Rolling Hills Lane in a in a popka in the state of
Florida in the great US of Our country is in a crisis because too many good people standing by watching bad things happen and doing absolutely nothing about it. Remaining silent. It is time to stand up and say no more to
corruption, no more to hate, no more to racism. Those things are killing our country. When we normalize the atnormal, we desensitize the truth to the point the
truth doesn't matter. That's a problem in our country. to all residents. When we start electing our appointed officials, our elected
officials, when we start electing people that knows principles matter, that knows integrity matters, that knows honesty matters, that knows accountability matters, that knows responsibility
matters, that knows that morals matter, that knows that ethics matter. matter that knows that character matters that knows that procedures matters that knows that leadership
matters and knows that laws matter when we start electing our candidates on that you will see a different America you will see a different city of Apakka you will see a different state of Florida now we took the public comments down to
three minutes next year we have an election now. You telling the public, I don't want to hear from you, but I wonder what you're going to tell them next year when you re when you run for election. I wonder how you going to look at them and you're going to tell him, I
want to hear your opinion when I want to hear. This is going to be very interesting. And my heart goes out to the business owner that's sitting here talking about homeless. And we got a mayor that has all power and he does absolutely nothing
about homeless. Period. So in life there's a cause and then there's effect for just about everything. And most of the time we worry and we focus on the effects of it. What you see happening in this
administration, lack of staffing, unethch unethical things, corruption, those are effects. The cause of it is just bad leadership. You get rid of that, everything
changes. There's always that. Thank you. Okay. All right. Let's see. Commissioner Smith, you give us a prayer pledge and fact of the day, please sir. Our father God, we come once again grateful for this opportunity to serve
this city. We ask heaven father to keep us humble that all that we shall say and do be pleased and acceptive in your sight. bless those that in this chamber they shall feel your spirit that we be able to come to one agreement for the best interest of this city. This we pray
in thy son Jesus name. Amen. Amen. Amen. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Fact of the day. On May
21st, 1881 in Washington DC, humanitarians Clara Barton and a doctor Solomon's founded the American National Red Cross, an organization established to provide humanitarian aid to victims of wars and natural disaster. Martin had worked with the sick and wounded during
the American Civil War and became known as Angel of the Battlefield for her tireless dedication. She was in Europe in 1870 when Franco Prician war broke out and she went behind the general lines to work for the international red
cross. In 1873 she returned to the United States and four years later she organized an American branch of the international red cross. The American Red Cross received its first US federal charter in 1900. Barton head the organization at her
80th and died in 1912. Solomon served alongside her as vice president for 12 years. Fact of the day. All right, we got two sets of minutes. Any changes? Not look for any anybody from the public wish to speak. All
right. Uh look for a motion to approve the minutes. So got a motion by Commissioner Velasquez. Second. Second by Commissioner Anderson. All those in favor? All opposed? Motion carries unanimously. Bradley, anything on the agenda we need to
Yes, I do have one item. Let me pull that information up for you real quick. Um, we need to uh pull public hearing item number one, ordinance number 3101, the rewrite of the comprehensive plan to allow additional time for staff to
review the rewrite per the requirements of the Senate Bill 180. So when we get to that, we'll need to pull that. And I think the recommendation was July 2nd's meeting, right? So, anybody that was here just for that, you know, if you want to check out, that's fine. If you
want to stay, we'll uh we'll press forward. Okay. All right. Presentation. Blanch. This is South Py annexation. Blanch Sherman, finance director. Um, in the previous council meeting, um,
the council requested that we contact several other agencies or governmental entities that have perhaps um, perform an annexation study. Um, and we did. We contacted 10 um cities and municipalities and
counties and basically three of those have um perform one and the cost ranges from the 63,000 to the 155. The three in the green that you see on this
list, the ones in the yellow, we have not gotten all the information um yet. And the ones in the gray we research completed. They didn't provide any further information. So the objective of the survey was to determine the
estimated cost to see if it would exceed the 50,000. And based on what we're seeing here in the years that these studies were performed, not saying that they are necessarily the same scope, you know, that we are going to do, but it's likely that it will exceed the 50,000
and it could go as much as a 100,000. So, we would have to go through a formal solicitation process. We did talk in our briefings. I was looking into whether we could use some of the other contracts or piggyback on one of the state contracts that one of these um municipalities used
and that was determined that we cannot use those transportation um planning contracts and that state contract was not eligible as well. So we would have to go out through a formal solicitation. We'll work with Cliff of course to get the scope of work that is
needed and I would also need to secure the funding for this and that would be through coming back with a budget amendment you know probably after we award it or something at the award. Any questions for Blanch
Bobby? Do you remember how many residential properties that were in or or blanch paper? Do you remember how many residential properties were in the the annexation area? It was like 650. That was a question I asked in an agenda review meeting. I think he was
researching. 650. I I've got maybe a It's not a guaranteed solution, but a something to What if we got sent a a registered receipt mailed to everybody
in that in that area to get their in in the Orange County side and got their, you know, yes or no. And based on that results, then we could I mean because we could put that out pretty quickly, couldn't we? I mean, Bobby,
that wouldn't be a hard thing to do. So, so that was that was suggested back in the Orange counties. The Orange County. that was suggested back in 20 under when um the city attorney
Rodriguez that was suggested to send surveys to residents and homeowners of the south of regarding annex annexation that was done that was the suggestion and we never really followed through on that. I think that would be a great idea to see if they're
So, will we be sending like doing a survey or or what's Well, I would say yes or no. You know, I mean, now the question is, you know, how much information would you give them? If you do put information, do we put the information in the envelope that we send
to them or do we only give the information be on our website? I mean it's not a definitely not a foolproof way of getting us um you know you need a response accurate an accurate number but it would be
but that wasn't the goal of the feasibility study though that that was to take a comprehensive approach to what that looks like cost analysis resident count home ownership count all of those things we'd have a comprehensive look at the unincorporated area so just a just a
feedback survey is not going to get what we need. Well, I think just check the pulse to see if the physibility studies even need it before before we spend $100,000. But to make sure what I recommend is because a lot of people don't check their mail or sometimes things get lost in the mail, they don't respond. We actually hire someone to go
door to door and collect signatures. So that way we're explaining to them, okay, this is what we're doing and then check off homeowners. So that's what I recommend. It'll be a, you know, a way to save money, but also make sure that we're effective and empower someone to go out and go door to door survey and
Yeah. Do a survey door to door. Yeah. Because I I noticed one of them said that they did in-house um study with their staff. I just wondered if that's something we can do and save $100,000. I think the complexity of this this
study it is governed by statute. So it's not a oh let's just see what all this means. It's required and once we do it then we have to provide a minimum of 15 days notice to the county of the results of the study. Now in theory it is so we can
then as the municipality decide to act on the feasibility also informing the residents of the area to to be considered for annexation and have them have the opportunity to look at it and so forth. Um, so it is not, you know, some extra thing. It's required as like
exhibit A. But if you're asking, can we get an informal poll, if you want to call it that, a survey or whatever to gauge interest? Um, you know, like any poll, it depends on how you word the question, would it be are you interested in being annexed or do you support
annexation or, you know, whatever? Or if if you were having to pay city taxes, would you support annexation? I mean, how you word the question is going to affect how you go the response you get. Well, I think what you'd do is you'd have somebody that would write a a
support their one pager or two-pager and you'd have somebody write an opposition one or two page and you put that together with are with after you've read this, are you now in favor of of annexation or opposed to it? to the
extent we know some of the facts like what water rates would be or whatever that would it would apply to those people. Yeah, I I think that's probably okay because at the end of the day it's non-binding but it might give you an idea of whether you want to invest in the other stuff because then you got all the I mean that just that's just the
first step like you say of many to get us there and and but or or the question could just simply be would you be in favor of having that decision put on the ballot? Uh it's how again your question so you can word it however you want but that's
why I'm saying the how you word the question is going to influence the response. If you just say are you interest inhabiting on the ballot they say well what's the harm in having on the ballot because I'm voting against it. So it's all depends on what it is. People who do polls for a living know
that how the questions worded matters and what the responses are going to be. If you really want to know, do they support annexation? You could just ask them simply, but without any facts, do you support being annexed into the city of Apopka? If that option is provided to you, if I got that, knowing what I know,
which is absolutely nothing, I'd have to say I don't know because I had no facts about what's is it going to what's it going to be compared to what I get now? Is I have better services, lower rate? I I don't know. Um, but to your point, mayor, if you could come up with a fact sheet that's actual facts, if you say
this would be your water rate, that you would be served by the Apakka Fire Department, the PA PD, Paka util, or whatever. We know the things we can actually say that are doable that are factual. There's nothing wrong with giving anybody facts, but we can't push
an agenda one way or the other per statute for any candidate or issue. So going door todoor would almost it would be perceived that we're trying to push an issue if we go door to door. Will that if individually you can
do whatever you want as a city official? A city official not individually. Yeah. Yeah. Like if if you decided to go knock on doors informally, you can find out and provide whatever information you want. But if it comes out under the city, here's our survey from the city of Apop. It has to be apolitical and
factual only. So, I just want to kind of give you some numbers because I have all the workshops. I carry them all the time. Um the workshop that we had January 24th of 2023, it had here according to the
Orange County Planning Division within the area to be annexed, there are 2,185 built residential units and 387 resident vacant residential lots. Um, based on the numbers, the
proposed annexation would incorporate approximately 5,943 new residents into the city of Apaka. Now, this was done, these numbers came from Orange
County January 24th, 23. Is that is that the Because we did kind of two different um areas. One was Keen Road, which I thought was a lot less than that, but I I Does that does it show where the Well,
the first one was done November 29th, 2022. Yeah. See, I think that was the one that was and I'll tell you in a second cuz I I keep the
[Music] um the whole thing here. So this one had the proposed annex annexation boundary is 2,48 acres and at that time it had
2,340 parcels with a total of 1,182 acres. That was on 20. And then it had 1,036 homes were
homestead. And he said un undeveloped properties cannot be annexed. But that's the the amount of homes isn't the key. It's the voters, right? This only goes to voters. So it's not homeowners and it's not land owners, it's voters. So it can be tenants that can control what a
homeowner what happens to a homeowner's property or their their multif family property, whichever property it is. So So it's not just this this is very specific just to voters within the designated area.
Okay. So what's the pledge of council next step? and we were here March 28th is our last town hall about this 2023. I I don't I don't have a problem with
sending out a um a notice just asking them uh to get a pulse. Um but if if we have to do the the study have to do the physical then I think we need to go ahead and do the RFP uh and do the scope
and and get that get that going and get it moving forward so we can have the study done. A true cost. Yeah. Associated with it. That council. Okay. Let's um so then we'll I don't know I don't know who would be the one to
uh Radley maybe see what If there are any organizations out there, I'm sure there are ones that will do doortodoor just so we got maybe a number for in two weeks a door to door a door to door knocker survey. Okay.
Yeah. Okay. That everybody good on that? So you're still going to do a door the door knock? No, we're going we'll have a number. We'll at least have how much it would cost to do that. As we can do it simultaneous to the point where if if if
the if the door door knocking comes back and it's 70% against them and my suggest we we pull the plug now that would we'll see. Okay. Okay. So, just clarify proceed with preparing the scope for an
RFP and gather information on the doortodoor survey. Now, what's the timeline and goal of getting this on the ballot? Timeline and goal of putting it on the ballot. The timeline is report.
Yeah. 115 105. But again, what's the B? What? I think it was March. Yeah, it was March. March. March. It was March. November. Okay. your mic. Oh, excuse I didn't have a Mac. I apologize. Thank you. All right. Thank Thank you,
Blanch. All right. Um consent agenda. We've got 11 consent agenda items. Anybody need to have any of those pulled either from the dis or from the public? I like to pull number four. Number four.
that one. No, that's just a presentation. I would like to hear from the public that we're just talking about doing a survey to hear from the public and we're not going to hear from the public. I I think it would be very valuable to hear from the public. We've got we've got one. We're going to pull the right. So, you just don't want to hear from the
public at all. Document. You don't want to hear from the public at all. Pull number four. We have residents here that want to see. Need a motion to approve items 1 through 11. I just can't believe you don't want to hear from the residents, but you'd rather spend money to hear from them so you don't actually have to see them in person. Okay. Got a
motion. I just I this is I thought under the last on the last rules and guidelines after every agenda we had the opportunity presentations. No presentations are different than than business items. Always have been. That's
correct. That's no vote. It's a presentation. But didn't we just It ain't it ain't a vote. We're not asking. It's just about input. I agree. They can do whatever they want. But you're asking about the legal requirement for that presentation. That's why again it's valuable to have
and this isn't for you. It's valable to have public feedback to consent. So how much money you going to spend to not talk to residents then? Okay. Tens of thousands of dollars to not hear from residents. All right. continue to deal to to approve. Well, I I want to give a little history on
annexation. I would like to give history on annexation minus the four. And Commissioner Smith, you said you was 100% for it by any means necessary. Do you still stand there? I'm looking for a motion looking for a motion to approve. That's
all right. I just want it on record. That's all number four. So move got a motion by Commissioner Smith. Second by Commissioner Anderson. All those in favor. All motion carries. Now bring up number
four. That would be I don't know. I guess that's probably Cliff. That's the mineral rights. Yeah. Your mic again. That is the mineral rights for Taurus. Uh and for what it's worth, I can provide a brief presentation. We got a request. Uh, I don't know who it came
through, but it was ultimately rooted to me to review the document. It was request because Taurus is looking to sell one or more of the parcels that it controls. That's what the request said, and that the buyer uh has asked for as a condition to purchase the property, a
release of the claim that we have per the deed that we gave them, the special warranty deed, um, of the mineral rights. The mental rights were reserved in the first instance because it was a requirement of state statute, but we have the opportunity if we choose to to um release those rights, which is what
they've asked for. As far as I can understand, we do not have an obligation to do so. And which I clearly wanted to make sure I point out is I have no idea whether these rights have any particular value. I don't know if there's gold in them their hills or oil in the soil or
anything, but the document does what it seeks to do, which is release those rights. Everything else is discretionary. When you rewrote I think you rewrote the original when you came uh when you became mayor in 2018, did you renegotiate that contract? Not that part
of it. Not that part. It was always that was under Kil Shammer and Kyle Beck. So, no, I did not. Okay. So, but you had the opportunity to renegotiate it, right? I guess I did. Yeah, you did. Okay. So, you can blame others, but you had the
opportunity to fix it. So, what was that? A was it a contract or was it a deed? Is it a deed? Is it a deed restriction? Yeah, it's it's a in the warranty deed, what's called a special warranty deed that the city gave to Taurus when it purchased or received the
property. part of the restrictions in the deed like a deed restriction but in the deed itself as opposed to a separate document was the was that we were retaining these mineral rights and so they've asked as they sent a copy of the special warranty deed along with their request saying that they have a
purchaser I don't recall them identifying who the purchaser is but the purchaser has requested that the city release its claim for these mineral rights and and they sent a document to review that does that which I reviewed and made a few changes to that's the document But what I just want to be
clear is that there's no one on the council that can go and it was it was a deed already that was it was deeded over. So we can't go back and renegotiate a deed. No. No. This is this is a release like of any other claim we would have if we had easements and they said, "Hey, will you release your
negoti?" We could say yes. We could say no. And and they what's interesting is they sold all the other properties without that release. Right. Exactly. It is that there's their buyer appearing. I think it's from my understanding it's the lender. It's the lender that's requiring that that portion it's cleared
off. I know somebody cloud. So I mean back I guess in the day that mineral rights are were part of normal contracts. So and then they just need to have that release. So I I don't and my recommendation is that we keep them.
What's the value to us to keep them? What's the value give it to them? Well well it might not. So I think what happened so just because I did speak with because I had questions about it. So I did speak with um TARS development and from my understanding the person
that is trying to secure a loan cannot through SBA. SBA all lenders have different guidelines and that SBA is requiring that that particular pardon the deed be released because it could cloud uh the ability for the borrower the borrower or the seller to resell the
property later. So that's the reason why and years and years ago that was customary. Um right now people just aren't doing it anymore. I just think the government was doing it back then. But I don't I mean I don't think there's a pot of gold underneath it or anything
like that. I just it was requ there's a state statute that required the city to retain these rights when it sold the property. And that's what the deed does. They've now requested that we release those rights. And there's nothing that I can find that which would keep us
legally from doing so. That said, there's also nothing that would compel us to do so. You asked the question, uh, Mr. Smith, why would we do this? I can speculate and that's all it would be. One quick, it's Commissioner Smith. Sorry. I'm sorry. What? Commissioner Smith. Who did I say? Mr. I'm sorry. I
apologize. Commissioner Smith. Um, uh, okay. back to work. So the the reason that I can think of that that would be perhaps something you'd be interested in is if whoever is getting the property would then say now that I got it I'm
going to actually build the thing or whatever it is that was supposed to be built that hasn't been built there. But other than that I can't say that I can think of a reason. It's something already built there. It's the pre-exist the building is already there. It's been there for over hundred years. So, and to confirm too, so if a new
agreement, the the deed restrictions that were put in place were based off of an agreement. If that agreement had changed to where those deed restrictions didn't exist anymore, then this wouldn't come back in front of us, right? It would already be if they wanted to sell it, we would know they it could have been unilateral from our city
administrator or the mayor to say, uh, we're good. We don't need the agreement's already changed, so we can sign off on releasing those rights. you have the if I understand the question I don't think the answer is yes again when the property was sold under whatever administration I guess it was Kilamra I
just don't remember um there was a requirement by statute and it's cited I understand it has you have to include correct retain the middle to be that retainer so with a new agreement effectively what we're doing now yeah it's you have an option that they've asked you to do it you could say yes you
could say no sure so it could have been done previously could have been done Yeah. Well, no one ever asked us, but yes, I guess you could. Okay. But the state statute is still in place. Yes. Exactly. Wait, so the state does require that still? It didn't. So, it still require it now? The state statute? It did
require it when you deed the property. It doesn't say forever. Have other cities released? I This is the first time I've ever encountered it. I've never seen it. What's the state statute, please? Uh, let me let me pull that up and tell you real
quick. Special warranty deed view file. It's two70 and they were able to sell off other parcels without us releasing the le. Correct. It's only because of the the the particular person is purchasing the property. The lender is SBA is requiring it to they don't like that deed
restriction exceptions. Yep. Uh subject to automatic phosphate, metals, minerals, and petroleum reservations by virtue of section 270.11 sub one Florida statutes. That says exhibit B to the to the deed, the
special warranty deed. I just want to make sure that we're just not affecting a home someone's right to sell their property when we really don't have a benefit at all to the I mean if we don't we don't know what it's worth.
So to say that we're not going to do it and we don't know what it's worth and it's preventing someone from selling a property is and and not only that I mean if we're trying to grow the develop the area town center and we're buggering it up by not doing this then but I mean I
just we're trying to I understand your your point. Why give away something if you don't have to? But if if they've got obviously have a user for the property is if the if if the uh the lender wants them to give it away or for us to give it away then there's a use for it. I
don't know what it is but there's they've got a use that hopefully will will benefit the town center. That's but I that's my thought. But do we know the value of the mineral rights? Is there a value? Attorney I'm
sorry. Is there a value? Are you aware of any value of the mineral you to know the value you'd have to know whether there's something there such as coal oil natural gas or maybe a water supply underwater spring or something underground spring I don't know I know
that's the whole point the reason I made when I when I answered the question about reviewing the document said look I don't know whether there's any value if you're want to know whether this accomplishes a goal it does it gives up the rights there I have no idea whether there's any value and the only way you'd know is and have someone do some
exploration to find out, which we can't do because we don't own the property. So, so I'm looking at the special warranty deed. It was signed. Yeah. The 22nd of June, 2018. So, 2018
it was signed. But you signed, right? So, it wasn't Joe Kill Simon. It it was already the the It was already there, right? But then you signed I signed when we sold it. Yes. When they sold it. Yes. Oh, okay. Yeah. But it wasn't it was state stat it
was statutoily required. I'm not No, you said former mayor Joe Kilshammer and Kyle Becker. Yeah. Is who did it. The state statute did it. Yeah. Is a true mischaracterization of the reality of what happened.
Okay. Who's that? I don't Yeah, looking for some direction. Well, I just I just don't think there's no value to it. I I think that to have a any type of restrictions where a property owner cannot sell their
property and we can't articulate or we can't give value to why the city would retain those rights. I just don't think it's fair to the home to the property owner for us to restrict them. Attorney Shepard on so 27011 subsection
I guess 2B correct. Yeah. The local government, a water management district or an agency of the state may at its discretion sell a release reserved interest in any parcel of land except that such sale or release shall be made upon the petition of the owner which is
what we got uh of the uh of the parcel of land with a statement of the reasons justifying the sale or release. I got the release. So what a what a unique statute. It's required and then you can let it go. You can let it go because according to the statute, we can't let it go. You can't
make this stuff up. That's why I'm not smart enough to go to tell. So if the statute is allowing us to release the release it, what's the reason why we wouldn't release it if we there's no value to us that we can articulate? That's for the council. Okay. So there is a provision that
allows us to do this. Mhm. That's a It's a bizarre statute. Okay, got it. Tallahassee awaits you. All right. Anyway, so looking for a motion to release right the release of
rights document for Taurus Hopka City Center, Inc. Some a motion by Commissioner Vasquez, second by Commissioner Anderson. All those in favor? I oppose. Commissioner Smith. So four to one with Commissioner Smith in opposition. Okay. All right.
Next up, business item number one special event request. That was Miss Cindy Edwards. Come on down. Gosh, you got her hair curled and everything. Wow. Good evening, Mayor
Commissioners. I'm Cindy Edwards, interim parks and recreation director. I'm here tonight to request authorization for street closures for transform outreach for the Apakka Junth day
parade. My button. There we go. The street closures are requested in the special event permit applications for transform outreach Junth parade. The parade, as you can see from the map there, will begin at New Hope Missionary Baptist
Church located at 927 South Central Avenue. Staging will take place on the 10th Street side between New Hope and St. Paul. The parade route will proceed down 10th Street, then turn right onto Marvin Zanders Avenue. It will continue
along Marvin Zanders Avenue, crossing over Michael Gladen Boulevard, and then left onto Sixth Street. From there, it will continue to 10th Street and conclude at Alonzo Williams Park. The DRC recommended approval of the special event permit application along with the
provided street closures at their May 14th, 2025 meeting. The staff recommends the city council to approve the requested street closure as part of the special event permit application. Any questions for Cindy? Anybody from
the public wish to speak on this one? If not, we'll close the public hearing. Look for a motion to approve the special event request for the road closure for June the Junth parade. So move. Got a motion by Commissioner Anderson. Second. Second by Commissioner Velasquez. All those in favor? All opposed? Motion
carries unanimously. Next up, Bradley. Good evening again. Uh Radley Williams, interim city administrator. Uh tonight I'm here with a uh funding agreement uh for the Main Street Apka Inc. program. Uh during the FY25 budget development
process, a proposal from Main Street Aryka, Inc. was presented to city council for consideration of a funding agreement between the city of Apka and Main Street Apka, Inc. Uh funding in the amount of $50,000 was approved by city council in FY25 budget to be set aside for Main Street Apka pending the
creation of a funding agreement. City staff and the city attorney's office have worked with Main Street Apaka Inc. on the proposed funding agreement attached to the staff report. Uh Main Street Apka Inc. is agreeable with the terms outlined and is ready to move forward with the scope of the outlining agreement. Uh just some highlights from
the agreement. Uh term would be from July 1st of this year to June 30th of next year. The $50,000 funding paid in quarterly payments. uh a matching fund requirement of 50% uh in either cash or inind uh contributions to Main Street.
Uh 25% of the funding may be used for staffing salaries, wages, and benefits. And then we did ask for some reporting um from Main Street Apka in the form of bannual report to the Papka CRA to include work plan update, upcoming MSA
events, education highlights, packet and digital traffic statistics, property inventory database review, and a financial review. Uh I know Miss Caitlyn Cashetta is here from H Streetka and uh we're available for any questions. Any questions for uh I do I had one question
for you. I'm excited to see this come. I know that the everybody's excited about it. Did you speak with the attorney about my concerns about the the contract at all? Um, no. So, I think it'd be good time for you to So, in the contract, we asked for insurance to be provided after we
after payment is made. So, is there a reason why we're requiring 45 days? They have to show they have insurance 45 days after the execution of this contract. Where is that? Well, it's item it's item nine in the contract. And the funding is 30 days. The
discrepancy is uh we're requiring insurance 45 days after up to 45 days and the payment can start 30 days after signing. So we can issue payment prior to insurance. We shouldn't. Well, according to this contract, we can.
Okay. Well, I I didn't the way I understood the contract and it was not only sent to me but some somewhat explained to me and it was my understanding that we we had appropriated money which had not yet been allocated to a specific agreement
back at the beginning of this budget season. um and that this is the first attempt at an agreement that allows the money to go from being or allocated in the budget to assign to a specific contract and that the work that is under this agreement would not happen for a
bit. But if that's correct, then certainly you would want to have proof of insurance before you start making payments. So I know Miss Cashette is here. I believe to to square that up, we could adjust it to have a 30-day on both. Well, I think we know I think it's important that we have insurance before we issue payment. Right. Well, we can
also include that language. I don't think she's disagreeable to that. So, we can make sure our contract we can update that language and then make sure they match 3030. 3030. No, no, no, no. Not match 3030 because we need to make sure that we have insurance prior to Right. but still give
a window or do you want to get rid of the window completely? Well, I think insurance needs to we need to make sure we have insurance before we issue payment. Why don't we make the payment date contingent upon the receipt of insurance certificate, right? We can do that and that would just eliminate. So once we get insurance certificate 30 days after that it's almost like closing
you get the deed when I get the cash. Correct. Absolutely. So we can remove the uh time window and we'll just put payments can are contingent on receiving and I just think moving forward all contracts we should make sure that we have insurance in place prior to issue any type of payment because that prevent us go you
know just all contracts important and reference to was that I don't want to jump in on you. No it's okay. Okay. Are were you done? Okay. So, sorry. On exhibit B, do we have all of those documents or are those forthcoming? Uh, they're forthcoming. Uh, Main Street APK
is ready to provide those at our request. Okay. Do we have where where where we at? I'm sorry. Exhibit B. Oh, okay. Can we see the exhibits before we vote on this contract? Do we have copies of Do we have the copies of this exhibit B? Uh, we can provide them. She has them
available. You have them available. Is there a reason why they wasn't included in this in this agreement? Uh, The way I understood it, these are going to be provided uh in the reporting function of the contract. So we can but she does have them available and we can so these can be if we can make this
contingent upon we won't approve this or more so it won't be I believe you want to put a contingency in just like the last one. If you'd like us to receive those documents before payment's processed we can certainly do that and I can certainly share that with the council if that's the wish.
Absolutely. as long as we get those and in and the uh the timeline for insurance. So, we can we will provide a couple of updates to the agreement uh specifying that exhibits in uh or the items in exhibit B will be provided prior to issuing of the payment. Yeah.
And just just also asking prior to any other contracts that we have all the exhibits to review of because even with it being provided to we still don't if we don't agree with something or have questions about something we've already executed this agreement and when we don't have any oversight after we already executed the agreement. Okay.
Yeah. Let me pull up let me just pull a list up again what those were. Oh, so uh Florida Department of Revenue Registration, uh IRS federal tax status, copy of the current bylaws, copy of current roster, board of directors, certificate of insurance, um department of agricultural solution, uh
solicitation, contribution certificate, and an air to report organizational activities over the course of fiscal year because for example, their current bylaws is is against some of our city policies. We've already executed this contract. Wait, say that again. If we have so there are current bylaws, right? We want
to copy the bylaws because we want to look at the bylaws and kind of see, you know, that's how the organization is governed. So if we don't see we are agreeing to exhibit B and we haven't seen any of these documents and we're executing a contract. Well, so that's what I'm saying. Make this contract contingent upon the receipt of those.
Those are sent to us and maybe a every commissioner sends an email back. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. So the because the exhibit does ask for annual reporting minimum requirements. So that was what those were to be intended to be included in annual report. Okay. I think that if we can
make it let's if this gets approved tonight make it contingent upon the receipt and approval from each board member u through an email or or call. Yeah we can like I said Main Street is agreeable to to doing that. They have
all the documents in order. So any any other questions rather I guess is there a reason they have the documents I'm just just just for questions. Is there a reason why there we didn't receive and they were uploaded so we can review them if they're all available now? Um again this was just for the annual reporting uh minimum
standards which annual report would be at at the end of the year. So like exhibit B that's the annual reports but the copy of your IRS federal taxes your copy of your bylaws that that's something that they have now right. So, and we should have these anyways.
Caitlyn, do you have those with you? Oh, I was going to say if you had them here, I go by somebody. No, it's okay. It's fine. This is just for all contracts. Is that because we are all we're agreeing upon stuff. We don't know. Understood. And that and this one falls on me because we did have discussion about this. Okay. Uh yeah.
And uh again, the intention of what I understood exhibit B was for an annual report. Annual report typically comes after the works, you know, it's like a recap report. Okay. Um, so definitely understand though. Some of this stuff is kind of definitely understand. Yeah, definitely understand that. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. That's it. And that's moving
forward all contracts. I'm just asking that. Okay. Okay. Any other questions for Rley? Caitlyn, you want to come up? Just give us a Well, thank you so much, Caitlyn Kasha, Main Street Aka. Uh thank you so much for your support all of these two years
now that we've been working and trying to put our program together and building it. Uh it's meant a lot to us as volunteers to have your support backing us. And you know we've been even though this is the first time the agreement's coming to you all. We've been working on
the verbiage of this for about a year a little over a year now between all of the department heads that have come and gone. And so it's really exciting for us and we're really thankful that it's landed on the agenda. So, thank you all so much. Uh like I said, you'll see all those documents in your email tonight as
soon as I get home uh for your review. And please, if you have feedback, I am totally open to it as always. So, please let me know. Um and then what was the other thing that they just said? Forget there was something else. Insurance. The insurance. Yes, we're prepared to purchase that as soon as this is agreed
upon. So again, you'll find everything in your email pretty much 24 hours after this is all agreed. Thank you so much. Thank you. All right. Anybody from the public? Leroy Bell Helen. You know, it's it's
pathetic. This been going on for two years. Bradley just stood up here and on exhibit A he came in and he was he was filling off a copy of the bylaw uh certificate for insurance for two
years. one main thing that we've asked for that go with this packet and it haven't never been produced and that's a copy of the IRS federal tax the
501c3 and it's just like she the young lady just come up oh you can have this in your mail by tonight this been going on for two years the same way you be amending budgets you asking for
$70,000 just in case you need it down the road. You're putting a horse the cart ahead of the horse. All these paper, all this paperwork should be turned in. Every last thing on this exhibit should be
checked before any money is dispensed to Main Street. a copy of the uh uh a copy of the reg uh roster and the board. That's important. Citizens want to know where
they money going to, who's on the board. And it's it's sickening that you guys are set up and will respond back to certain people. Sylvester just stood up here and asked a question to Commissioner Smith. You sat
up there and looked at him like, "Not on the law. It's pathetic." But I promise you, it ain't going to end like this. It's not going to end well that you're showing certain treatment to certain citizen, the other
one you're looking down your nose. Remember, March is coming up and all three of you. I do have her certificate. Rogers back at 7 West Main Street. I guess my my question is um who's going
to oversee this program? Um is it going to be under the CRA director? Is it under the community development director? Is it under the economic development director. Um then secondly, is this something that's going to be annually funded? And if so, is it other
entities that come and apply for this or is it like is it a set budget amount? Because I'm just trying to figure out I'm looking at this. It says it need to include a work plan and update, but what does that coincide with? Does it coincide with the community real development plan? and just how does it
it meshes to the goals and objective of what plan that it's pulling from if it's going to be applying to the CRA. So that's was my question or is this uh general fund money going to this particular program or is it coming from a pot of money from the CRA? Just for
clarification. It's general funds. Sylvester Hall, Rock Springs Ridge. It's It's very clear that we have a double standard. Main Street Par Main Street. I'm in support of it 100%. But there's procedures, rules,
guidelines that we abide by. And to see we so blatantly let things slide on some and some of them we got our foot on the neck saying you got to have all this, you got to have all that. And we're getting ready to give out if it had been brought
up by the public and others and by Commissioner Anderson there. We're getting ready to vote on some we don't even have all the the bylaws. We don't know. We don't have all the information. And like Mr. say it's been
two years working into this and so I do everything I can to promote growth in Apakka and if any business owner need help need
guideline if we're partnering with them trying to to help them out we do that so it don't make them look incompetent when they come here and then the public got to point out these things that you guys should already
know. How many times have we stopped back there and heard uh did you see this? No, I haven't seen this. Did we get it? Oh, no. For some reason, I it didn't make it to your inbox. Come on. You all professionals and that's basic oneonone
when you're sharing information. But then somehow it get left out. Oh, I I don't this it just keep happening and it shouldn't. So, please hold to a standard
that we all can uplift all business when they come in here and to be a cornerstone for improving downtown because it definitely needed. But this is not how you do it. This is how not how you work with
people. And then I said it before, you know, y treat us like dumb asses. like we sitting back there and we clueless and this is not right. This is not right. I expect better for the public. I expect better
for this administration. And mayor, you can shuffle all the books you want. Disrespect me when I'm up here talking cuz you ain't got time to listen to what this black guy is telling you. But all three of y'all are up for
reelection. And I'm gonna do everything in my power to make sure none of y'all get back in that seat. [Music] Can I just um add something to this? Um because I have the whole package here. on October 2nd,
2024 when uh she originally came in um Miss Cashetta came in, it was marketed on the fifth license and you did provide this book to each of us. Am I correct in that? It has
all the information and I still have that. And then um you did send an email to each of us when you received this which was you I received your email on
321 and it was sent to all of us and it is the 501c3 so we did get that but it was just not in today's package and I know that the book had your board of directors. It just doesn't have an updated one yet.
Yeah. Okay. Thank you, Commissioner. Okay. All right. I um I'm 100% in support of Main Street Apaka. Caitlyn, I've been to every event you've
had. I support it. However, I think it's time that the city So, this is not against Main Street Apaka. This is general. Can we please have something either in writing that any organization
could review on what are your policies, what are the steps to get because it it's embarrassing that this is publicly made to hear someone now coming up and now going to does not have insurance
going to purchase because that was not requested in advance When some organizations come before you guys and are requested certain documents before you guys will even
speak to the organization or we go back and forth provide everything and then get denied but then some so it's not against Main Street. This is talking in general when some do not have everything
presented but they get moved to the next um level. So can you guys it will be nice where instead of because I'm sure if someone comes to one commissioner and ask a question they get one answer come to the next one as at a different time
as the same question gets a different answer. Can we have something where it's a standard policy for everyone so no one feels like well they're entitled while another group feels they're less than or
they don't meet them. We're all trying every organization in Apakka is trying to do something for the people of Apakka to make Apakka one of the best cities in Florida. So, can we just have something standard
for everyone? And just to respond to that, um that has been and I did speak to that regarding having a policy uh for our nonprofit
organizations. I did ask with the s previous uh uh chief administrator and I recently did ask our interim regarding a policy. I think it's important and
tonight proves why we need a policy. I'm Clinton Stanley and like I said I hear earlier we have $100,000 in the city budget for nonprofit organization. Are we going to are we going to put
together a committee a committee based for the people? The people be the committee. The nonprofit organization or the citizens of Apaka create a committee with the citizens of Apaka. How that money is going to be dispersed and who is it get allocated to because it's set
aside and we don't have no clear understanding on how to get it. I know it's in the city budget if I'm not mistaken. Is it in the city budget? And we coming back up on another budget year and that money hasn't been used yet. Right. Correct. So, how in the world you
have money sitting there and we have no idea how to get it? It was sat there and it was put to the side for what reason? So, you can have certain people or a certain committee put together to get it. Who's gonna be who's gonna be in
charge of sitting down and giving the information to the people on how to tap into that money and t how to get that funding? Where is it going to get allocated to? Can anybody explain that to me? Can nobody explain that to me? You have $100,000 there for nonprofit
organization. I am a nonprofit organization. We in need of some funding. We are one organization I know for a fact that's in need of funding. Even if it's crime prevention, something because what we're doing, we're preventing crime because we're giving
kids somewhere to go. We're giving them somewhere to do. And you're telling me you have a $100,000 sitting there and it can't nobody tell me how we can get it. Can't nobody tell me how we can get it. Mayor, can we can we work on something? Because I know that's one of the things. So, I think that if you can kind of work with staffing to outline so we can
figure because I know a lot of nonprofits have definitely been reaching out about it. So, cuz I'm saying cuz you you you're going to figure out how cuz I'm looking at you saying you got $50,000. So, you you're telling me how is is it going to come out of that $100,000? No, that's different. So, and
you got money sitting there. How can we get it? Cuz I'm being honest, we in need of it. Can you allocate some of that to South Park youth sports? Can you allocate some of that funding to us because we need it for field rentals. We
need it for a lot of different things to help prevent crime in the area because we need we are a safe haven for the youth to go. We are a safe haven and we need to be funded. And if you got money there to help
us, why can't you help us? That's I mean I'm I'm I'm just I'm I'm I'm being humble as I can. And I know y'all not used to me being this humble, but we have the funding there. Let's figure it out just how you figure out everything
else. Let's figure out how can we spend this money. How can we allocate some of this funding to nonprofit organization? And I ain't talking about next year because the the next budget year is up in July, June and July. Mayor, can you It ends in September before the next
city council meeting. Can you kind of put something together to present to the council? Okay. Policy policy in place. So we we need something in place. get that funding because we actually need it next city council meeting. He's going to have something right. Okay. You had you had Yeah, I have Yeah, I already
have the outline already. You had um recommended the $100,000 and since then there's been no movement. Yeah. So, I'll get with um because I know we talked about it before. Anybody else want to speak on? So, I'll get Okay.
Um All right. Uh let's see here. What's the uh looking for a motion to approve the funding agreement? Well, no, that's going to be contingent on um when she presents the insurance policy. Okay. So, motion to approve the funding
agreement Main Street contingent on proof of insurance. Proof of insurance and exhibit B and exhibit B and exhibit B. But she I have to say this that she did send each of us the 501c3. 501c3.
Because the letter said, "Dear uh to all the council members and I have it here." I saw that as well. Mhm. Okay. All right. So, move. Got a motion by Commissioner Anderson. Second. Second by Commissioner Velasquez. All those in favor?
All opposed? I. So, four to one. Um, why do you oppose that? I just think that we've got CRA and we've got our Fifth Street merchants that can handle it. So, okay. Next up, um, what what is the CRA doing that's similar? Department
and school board of Orange County. What is the CRA doing that's similar? And why didn't you bring this up during the discussion? Yeah, your votes are always so secret. It makes no sense. This is You say transparency. Clearly, there's none in the fact that you won't answer my
questions right now. Chief, disrespectful. Mayor, commissioners, good evening. Um before you is the school resource officer contract with Orange County Public Schools for the 2526 school year and the 262 27 school year. It outlines the
funding for each year for each SR SRO. Uh the I outlined in the staff report the main changes in the agreement that has been accepted by Orange County Public Schools. And the primary one is that if they get any safe school funding from the state that that will be split
between the school board and the law enforcement agencies uh in the past years they've kept that money to themselves. Uh but now under the contract it'll be split under the terms of the agreement between the law enforcement agencies and uh the school board. So that's the major change. And
other than that, it's pretty much the same as it always is. Okay. Any questions for the chief? Anybody from the public wish to speak on this one? Not close public hearing for motion to approve the agreement between APD and OCPS for the assignment of school resource officers, SRO. So move. Got a motion by
Commissioner Smith. Second. Second by Commissioner Anderson. All those in favor? I. All oppose. Motion carries unanimously. Thank you. Next up, contract ITB 2024- A-34. Lynch Blanch Sherman, finance director.
Good evening, mayor, commissioners. Um the item before you is to award the contract ITB 2024 A34 um for the CDBG grant um for the rehab of home number five to RDC
development court. I've shared with you some information because of the questions that you had in regards to the cost of this rehab compared to a previous rehab. Um um I don't know if you've had time to look at those items,
but I do have David Fox here. He can share with you some of the details um behind, you know, what's included in that rehab compared to what's included in the other one. Um he what he briefly shared with me is that the the rehab
that was for 45K was more of accessibility, you know, and this one included a lot more like structural damage and everything such as that. David, do you mind? David Fox with Fox Enterprise. Good evening. David Fox with Trif Fox
Enterprise. The uh home at 47 East 8th Street has roof leak. It's been there for a while apparently. House was built in 70 I believe 77. Yeah, 1977. It's got the original electrical
original plumbing. Um that roof's been leaking for a while. You got structural damage on the roof framing. You've got bad sheathing. You've got sheetrock falling off from the ceiling. The interior needs new plumbing. Um the envelope itself is block and it's in
good shape, but the interior pretty much is besides the kitchen, the bathroom is going to be pretty much gutted. Interior, sheetrock, ceiling, insulation. The home that came in the original that you approved previously for um uh was more that was like I think it
was 45. It only included handicap accessibility and enlarging a couple of doors and painting the exterior. House is newer. Roof was maybe a year old. electrical plumbing. The house probably isn't 10 years old and it was in good shape. So that's why the price
difference. One is in the top end of the minor rehab and the one that's being proposed now is a whole is a a major rehab. So that's the difference. I mean
in my estimate compared to the ones in my estimate compared to this one. A lot more detailed work in this one. And under the program, we can't address just certain things. You got to address code violation, health and safety issues, um section 8 housing standards. You can't go in there like
with a ship program or another funding program and just fix the roof. You have to address everything environmental. So like got Yeah, it's got to be health and safety. You've got to have address all the um any code violations, any health issues. Got to make sure it's got a working kitchen,
bathroom, so it meets HUD section 8 standards. And those are guidelines community development blog grant program. Any questions for either David or Blanch on this? I just questions for you Blanch. I don't have any questions for him. You have
questions. Any any questions for D? Yeah, I just I do and thank you for for being here tonight. It expertise is valuable. So there's there's a lot more that we're allowed to do with the CDBG grant. Correct. Other than just renovating houses. Yeah, there's other
categories. You can only have one the usual cycle. You can either have a neighborhood, commercial, or housing. Um, and you can only apply for one and then once you've got one open, you can't apply for another one until it's done. So, this one's exclusively This is housing. This is a housing rehab grant.
Okay? So, we can't use long as you got a housing open and you're in a regular cycle, then you can't have a commercial or neighborhood. You can do an ED in account development every year, but having a housing commercial or neighborhood project, you can only do
one at a time and you can't do one of the three only one of the three categories until you finish that one out. I understand. So like if we wanted to do because I'm reading from um HUD's website, construction of public facilities and improvements such as water and sewer facilities, streets,
neighborhood centers, and conversion of school buildings. That's a is that under the neighborhood revitalization category? Okay. Have we ever do we apply for those? Um you haven't under with us. I'm sure you did previously. We've only worked with this through this one program. We worked with you through the
housing grant and you had um you had a program for you addressing sidewalk improvements through COVID relief. Okay. Those are the two we've worked with you with. Theoretically moving forward is it's fiscal years or is it calendar years? The way it works
is once you close one out, they never have the cycle is never on the it's a fiscal year, okay? You're filing for fiscal year funding, but the the applications sometime like this year they were due last week. Last year they were due in October. They're never the same time. So you can't say we're going to get you done by this date. They give
you 45 days of notice and then the application cycle opens. So, and thank you for that information. If we wanted to start some type of like septic to sewer program in this area, would a neighborhood grant program be a viable option for that? Yeah, you your maximum
right now, the maximum you can apply for is 750,000. Okay. Um under a cycle, unless you're doing economic development, you have to have a developer and that one's 1.5 million, but under the neighborhood. So, if we had an economic development director, we would have access potentially to $ 1.5 million. You could apply for up to 1.5
under that category alone. Yep. under economic development. Wow. And so because we don't we don't have access to those funds, you would have to have a developer on board. You actually when you applying for economic development funds, you've got a developer on board saying they're going to bring jobs into the city and you're going to provide
them infrastructure improvements to their property line in most cases to provide those jobs. Okay? So you could easily back into a plan with that. But because we don't have that, um, for every job they create, you can apply for $35,999. And at least 51% of the jobs say the people taking those jobs must
have been low to moderate income prior to getting that job. You don't keep them down in that job, but the job prior or the income prior to the previous year, they had to be low to moder at least 51%. Okay. So then next next fiscal year and I guess we can discuss this more and
as a board and and with staff of applying instead of for the residential renovation one, we could do the neighborhood one potentially to start a program to do septic to sewer because I know that that's uh something that we need to be focusing on as well as a city in the future long term. Yeah. What you
could do is once you close out this one, you could you'll have a public hearing. You'll go over the categories, the housing, uh, neighborhood and commercial, and the ED, economic development, and you'll get public input. From there, you'll decide if you want to move forward with an application and what category, and you'll develop or
whoever you hired will develop an application for you. They'll have to do to verify that that area is low to moderate income, at least 51%. Because you have to at least 51% low to moderate income benefit to meet the threshold requirement for applying. And but once you determine that, you can either do it by census data if it's in a full census
track or you can do it by a door-to-d dooror survey. But once you determine that your area is 51%, you've got a project that you want to utilize for the 750,000 and that can include uh you if you go in with plans and design, you get additional 50 points. It's a point competition. Sure. If you're shovel
ready, which I saying, you get 50 points. Um if you put in 50,000 in leverage, you get 25 points. So it's a bunch of different aspects to that. Okay. to how you get competitive. But okay, unders. Thank you for that. And I do think down the road in in our next round of applying, I really think we should consider that especially in this
area because there's no programs that are doing septic to sewer within our kind of CDBGC area. So I think that's very uh important that we initiate something longterm there. In reference to this specific property, would it would it make sense
to spend a little more money to completely redo the house to to have a new house versus really kind of Frankensteining a house? The only thing you're not doing in this house is kitchen cabinets. You're addressing the plumbing. You're addressing the flooring. You're addressing the
sheetrock, shingles, uh painting. The only thing you're not doing is she's going to have old will be the kitchen cabinets. We're repairing them, but we're not replace. We're already at such a price point that we didn't call to replace the kitchen cabinets, and that's because of our limitation of funds. That
and she was happy with her cabinet. She was she wanted to keep them. Oh, okay. All right. Any other questions for David or for Blanch? Okay. Oh, I mean, I've already discussed doing agenda review. Um, I'll still stand on I think these
numbers are inflated. I think this when I look over the scope of work, a lot of the cost was marked up more than 30% above what using contractors um place on scopes of work, but I I it's a no for me. I think we need to put a bit back out. We only had one bidder actually
bidded on this and I think that we probably can get more bang for our buck if we put it back out. I think $160,000 for renovations on the property to me is definitely obsessive. So I in looking at the scope of work there's a lot of duplicate things in the in the scope and um I think it's over bidded. Let let me
ask this blanks with our three general contractor I mean I I understand what commissioner Anderson's saying with the three contractors we have or four contractors we have on that are 10 or 11. Yeah. Well I mean but that that are
in the the residential sphere. Could we could we get bids from them now or we we're it's not city property. Huh. The you're talking about the GC's that we have that's it's for city facilities. These are not this is not city. I know. Okay. And now keep in mind we got to
follow the requirements of this grant which are which are ownorous at at best. Very much so. Yes. Federal governments you know as we've found on many the grants you know the strings they attach to your your funding are sometimes not even worth Yeah.
Exactly. funds that you're getting. And we have to go through Florida Commerce, follow their rules, which is what um Mr. Fox just shared with you. And and the estimate, what was the estimate of that was given through them for this repairs was 95,000. Well, that was the estimate
that um David had based on his inspection of the house. The Florida Commerce had um estimate of 60 60,000. Correct. And we hadund almost 160,000. That's 100,000 over explain that Dave once again David Fox Red Fox 60,000 you
have a housing assistance plan that you submitted with your application. Can you David get over to the mic please? I'm sorry David Fox Red Fox Enterprise. You had a housing assistance plan or have when you applied for your application for funding for the housing grant in your housing assistance plan. It said
that if you exceed 60,000 in a rehab, it's not a maximum, but you just have to council has to note it when they approve it that they understand they're exceed exceeding the 60,000 noted in the housing assistance plan. It's not to discourage you from going over 60. It's just to let you know that that's
included in your HAP and you're exceeding that amount. Oh, I know. I understand that. I just still think the prices are inflated. Yeah. the and the cost of the scope of work is just it just doesn't cost that to do what you're doing which I get it. I mean you probably I mean you only bid
so you don't have any competition. That's why I'm requesting that we put it back out for more competitive. Do we have deadlines associated with this? Do we have deadlines? Can we go back out to bid to have somebody do this or is it can we blanch? Do we have a deadline? Can we put it back out the bid
or the funds have we can go back out to bid and yes we do have deadlines but we've gotten extensions you know on these grants before. So would but that would then delay applying for other programs at that point. Correct. Or other as and because it won't be closed out, right? So what's 30 talking about
30-day extension to put this back out? How long will it take to put this back out? Forbid. Well, if I think we have the specs. So if we go back in the current market, you know, it shouldn't take long. 30 to 45 days. We're talking about 30 to 45 days to potentially, you know, be able to use these funds for
Yeah. And more residents. Correct. Now, does the the resident that's there with that resident that they would have to move out during this time? Correct. I don't think this person and as I understand it, this particular individual did not want to rebuild. Okay. And I don't know if she's going to
have to move out of her house for this rehab. I mean, if they're doing drywall and and all that, it's not something about this one. That'll be up to the contractor in most cases, but usually their liability they're going to have request they move out. And so is is
the feedback that we're getting from the resident she does not want to do that. She did not want to rebuild is what I have been told. Well, I don't think we're asking for a rebuild. We're asking that we put the quote back. I'm just saying for my sake. We're not asking for a rebuild though. I know, but I'm saying
I know you want to rebid. Rebid. Yes. But once when earlier when we were comparing the cost of this with a Okay. You know, rebuild. That's when that conversation came up. What was the how how big is her house? How many square
feet contractor? He's a contractor. No, he's the one that he's he's a grant man. Okay, we can rebid it. I'm just trying to get a a It's small. It's not that big. The home is not that big. The one we just did that that Lamar Hugley's doing was like what was that?
Two 240 Bradley. What was the It was I think it was around there. Um, now just remember, uh, Mr. Fox had said to indicate it's basically a rebuild. I think everything other than the block wall. No. And the kitchen are pretty
much going to have to be redone. So, but not the external, right? Not the external walls. Is there a budget in here though for her relocation tempor or temporary housing? I don't think we pay for that. The grant allows under the grant program
under your housing assistance plan. It will allow for you to put pay for a monthly storage unit on her site or she offsite if there's not enough room for it and it'll pay herund I think it's $150 a month to help with whoever she's staying with with utilities. But it's
not it does not pay rent. It does not pay temporary housing. Okay. Maybe that's the reason she have we have we echoed that to her that I mean this is an extensive extensive project and it was my understanding too that there's a
speestous remediation that has to occur. Let me make that correction. Yes, that was shared with you because that's what was shared with me but they were referring to the other houses. Okay. So that's not this one. That's not that's not that wasn't I didn't see it either but she it was referencing during my review. Okay.
Okay. But if we didn't get one be the first time. Yes. Is there a possibility we're going to get more than one this time? Anything is likely. Anything is likely. Well, they're seeing that we we're going to be paying $160,000. We probably get more
interest if they see we approve. We was about to prove 157. Yeah. Any and and let me share this with you. the the contractor RDC did say that they would hold that price, but they did put some contingencies out there that you know with the new tariffs and material cost
increase may be a factor. So, and so I mean I understand the purpose of rebidd. Exactly. Well, they've already put like a 50% markup anyway. So, I'm just one vote. So, it's a pleasure
to rest the board. I'm just I'm And I think staff shared with me today. I don't have the details, but I think it's one of the I don't know which one of them we're having some problems with and we may end up rebidding that one anyway.
What problems and what problem? I don't know. I don't have the details. I mean, I feel like you should expect me to. I know. I know, but I I I'm trying to be, you know, transparent, but I'm just sharing with you. I don't have I don't They're still And plus, we have to go through the process, you know, of
giving them, you know, The four that we've funded or approved, one of those is having a problem. One of them, one of them. I'll get you the details. I just don't have them right now. Okay. I just wanted
to be transparent because if we rebid and you see the rebid go out for both of them, that'll be why. But that may change our funding availability then too. Correct. It may. So then we can't make an educated decision on this current one then until
we figure out that variable. It it it can increase the funding and we can use that money for the markup to probably help offset the other one if it comes back with in a deed markup. All right. I'm looking for some direction here. How much have we
contributed as a city? because it's a $50,000 match, correct? $50,000 match. Um ARP funds in around about 205,000 and we're looking at another when based on the estimate that we had another 27,000.
All right. And this president has an actively leaking roof, correct? That's my understanding that her roof is leaking. That's what caused some of the water damage. I spoke to her last gone gone away.
So if they put it out to rebid she the resident is going to have to wait till we get the bids back. So that's what another it'll be another 45 to 60 days delay. Yes. So we would be inconveniencing her. But
right now if we were to start working on the house it would be immediate. Yeah. I got you. But the resident does not want to well we have to go through an environmental assessment as well. That's one of the statements that I plan to
read. So that that normally takes the 60 days is what D um David is saying. How is that funded the environmental so part of their contract? So we have to do environment study anyway. Yes. For 60 days. So
during that time we got a bid out. So it will not delay anything. Okay. Yeah. So, so David, could we could we do those simultaneously? I mean, yeah, because there's nothing stopping us to coming back to this contractor and
saying, well, unless he doesn't want to hold his price, I'm pretty sure you can find someone $160,000 renovate inside a house and put a roof on. Correct. All right. Okay. You want to make a motion to rebid it? Let's just get on with this. Yes. So, I hope
a motion to rebid. What is it? Let's see here. Which one? Wait, was that two ITB 2024-8-34? Got a motion by Commissioner Anderson? Second by Commissioner Velasquez. All those in favor? I I
Okay, make this so so easy. Thank you for those opposed. Okay. Sorry. Unanimous. All right, that was a pretty weak weak unanimous. Okay, next up, selection of Snowas Bank for solicitation RFP
2025-8-180. Thank you, mayor. Um, and commissioners. Um, as a part of the Emerson Park special assessment process, we did um Thank you, David. Thanks, David. Oh, God.
We did. Oh lord. Can we go back to that? Yeah, we we need to. All right. Come on. That was a Thank you, Mr. Hall, for bringing it to our attention. You know, Dave, you're fine. You can go,
Dave. Go. Okay. Sylvester Hall for the uh fourth the fourth location. What was the address again? 28 West 8th Street. I thought that's No, that's that's one of the original That's a fifth for the
fifth East Street. E East 8th Street. Yes. Yes. Okay. Now, on the other four that we have in progress, do we have an update on the status where we at?
Who's going out overseeing, overlooking the property, monitoring it? Who's doing the quality assurance? See all these things that we talk about how we don't want the city to get ripped off. But on other projects, we look the other way.
They follow the same when we talking about the residents. We don't want them to get ripped off. Now look at this going on. Who's overseeing it? We we always who's who's the QA? We do. So when we say, okay, what's the status? Somebody should be able to come up and give us a status
right now on every property on all four property. So when our representatives here once you're finished, I think he'll be able to. Yeah. So once when when our financial officer come up here and say, "I I I I got it." But you know,
when you come here, you supposed to be ready and equipped with these things. If you're going to mention it, you should have your documentation ready. That's just being professional. What it was? $190,000 to rebuild the gut. Now, you
know, call me boo boo the fool, but maybe I watch a little bit too too much TV on flip this house, rebuild this old house where you turn a egg into a golden goose. And I look at the the thing. So when we out shopping our dollars for
these contracts, we're trying to get the best for our residents and we're trying to get the best for the city of Apu. And thank you for recognized that that is too much money. Thank you, Commissioner Anderson, for recognizing that. And then we need to rebid
it because we want to get quality work at a great price. I don't expect to pay peanut price and want quality work. But at the same time, we must apply common sense. So if you have no expertise in the area of how much it cost to rebuild and remodel a home, then you're clueless
when you're making these decisions and you're not moving in the in the in the direction that best benefit the resident and the city of Apacco. So, I would I would like to just see, you know, some type of organization, some type of, you know, when you come to
these and you present, you put us present the whole product to us, let us know the status and let us know what's going on. And then two, well, I just leave it at that. If you can give me the update, I greatly appreciate it. Okay. Anybody else? Okay.
Come up. Let him come up and get I just said I asked if anybody else want to speak on this matter. Okay. David, once again, David Fox with Fred Fox Enterprise. I'll just give it to you by address. Um, 118 West 8 Street. The
house is under contract. Of course, permits have been received. They've moved out. Uh, the asbesus abatement was completed. The clearance inspector came in for the asbesus abatement yesterday. He's he's qu he's reviewing it and to get us a clearance so we can move forward with the demolition. Um, I do
weekly inspections of all the homes while they're under construction. I get with the homeowners. I work with them. We don't do any prepayment under this program. It's all works done and then release the leans and then paid. 708 South Washington Avenue. Um, that one
the house is up. The sheetrock was completed or mud and taped and sanded and it's getting textured later this week. So, it's going to be ready in for interior painting and it should be completed in the next 30 days hopefully. Um 1165 D to Cliva Drive is a rehab.
It's been completed. 28 West 8th Street. We had to rebid that one, but it has under contract and the permits have been submitted for the contractors working out additional items requested by Ding Department. Okay. And then of course that last one we're going to rebid,
right? All right. Thanks. All right. Now I guess we need to go back and motion to rebid that. Commissioner Anderson to deal with your motion. And the last Velasquez. Second. All those in favor? I. All oppose. Motion carries unanimously. All right. Senova Bank.
Thank you. Okay. Resolution number 2025A. U Senova Bank for solicitation RFP 2025A-180. Um the solicitation was
issued on April 17th. Um we had inquiries on April 30th. The submitt was May 8th. We had 1738 notified users. We emailed 153 banks. Um, it was viewed by 353 and
followed by 15. However, we only had one response and that was with Senovas. And I have Mr. Joel Tindell, our financial adviser, who give you an overview of the results of that RFP. Thank you, Blanch. Good
evening. My name is Joel Tindle with uh I'm managing director with Hilltop Securities. We serve as financial adviser to the city. Just to give you a brief overview, as Blanch mentioned, um as financial adviser, we s assisted the city uh with the RFP for a bank loan
proposal for the primary purpose of financing the improvements to the roadway um in the Emerson Park or benefiting the Emerson Park subdivision. The request asked for a loan not to exceed 2.8 8 million a term through uh
20 240 roughly 15 years and a non-bankqualified tax exempt fixed rate for the entire term of the loan. We also had uh requested the ability to prepay the loan without penalty as part of the request and the security uh and sourcing repayment for the loan is the special
assessments um levy within the uh Emerson Park assessment area. And as Blanch mentioned on May 8th, uh the responses were due and the city received one response from Senovas Bank. And so Snovas Bank uh is they're being
recommended for the proposed loan um primarily or for the purpose of providing fixed rate for the entire term of the loan 4.48% through 2040. Uh an interest rate that's held through the anticipated closing uh which is uh June
6th. no debt service reserve fund requirement. Um, no set aside of proceeds upfront or cash upfront for the debt service. And then the ability to prepay the loan at any time without penalty. So this slide gives you just a
summary overview of what the financing results look like. So in the top uh right hand uh quadrant you can see the estimated principal amount of the loan about 2.2 million. Net construction cost just over two million. Uh assessment
development costs about 150,000 and then closing costs of just under 70,000. Down on the bottom right hand side you can see uh interest rate of 4.48% as we discussed. Um all in TIC which is similar to let's say like an
APR on a mortgage um or APY but um that's factoring in the closing cost of roughly 70,000. the the effective borrowing rates about 493. So total interest over life is just under 900,000. Total debt service of 3.1
million. Uh max annual debt service of about 210,000. And you can see the amortization schedule in a graphic form on the bottom left there. So it's roughly um equal payments um over the next 15 fiscal years. In comparing that to what was
included in the uh assessment report prepared by Stantech uh dated March 11th, you can see the original estimates similar net construction cost um with the updated estimate no need for debt service reserve funds. So that was
eliminated. We don't have the requirement based on our closing payment schedule etc for capitalized interest. And then both the closing cost and the assessment development co related costs have uh come down um from those original estimates. What does that mean for the
assessments themselves? If you look down at the bottom, uh the original uh report that they included had an estimated rate of 5%. We're at 4.48% here. A total estimated annual cost uh is just under
226,000 now versus just under 296,000. So about 70,000 less annually when you factor in um some additional cost for the early payment discounts and tax collector fees etc. So for the individual dwelling unit that's a
reduction uh an estimated reduction of about $140,000 or $140 a year over that 15-year period from what was originally um estimated in that assessment report. And so the next steps um subject to your
uh approval of the selection of Senovas Bank to move forward the financing team bond council we'll start preparing the uh resolution to present to the uh to present to you all next uh meeting on June 4th and then pending that approval
we'd look to close and actually fund the financing that Friday on June 6th. So, with that, I'm happy to answer any questions that any of you all may have. Any questions? Okay. Anybody from the public wish to speak on this one? I I had a
couple quick questions. The When is the first payment due? It is. The first payment will be due January 1st of 2026. So, the assessments will begin being collected with the November tax
bill. And so you'll in general most taxes kind of come in on the earlier part of the u the the tax cycle because of the early payment discounts. So you'll it's structured with a small interest payment, an intereston payment January
1st and then a larger principal and interest payment July 1. So that comes after the tax process tax uh sale. Uh so there could be a scenario where we're fronting a little bit of this typic with this structure. Typically not. So, with
a January with a small January payment um and just to give you an idea, I know we included some some uh or the I believe the preliminary numbers were included in the packet, but just to give you an idea on January 1st
of 2026, the estimated interest is about 57,000. I see that. Yes. But the total annual payment is about 210,000. So, it's a it's a um roughly a quarter of the payment is
due on that January 1st. So, I don't know historically what the city's tax collection has traditionally been on the property tax side, but I would guess a large portion of it been collected prior to January 1st. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And
then, uh Mr. Sherman, do we I know we discussed I don't know I don't know if you have any additional information on the prepayment process if that is something that you're wanting as a department to move forward with and and we did reach out to the
bank to address what they shared with us in regards to that they will allow it and Joel has some details on that. Go ahead Joel. So the bank proposed um prepayment without penalty in whole or in part at
any point which is good um for a loan. Now the one complicating factor in terms of structuring a loan for special assessments and those small prepayments that an individual assessor uh assessment payer may pay is that it
depends how the bank might apply that prepayment. So if you think of like a mortgage, it's not exactly like a mortgage, but if you think about a mortgage, if you make an early principal pay payment, you might still be making the same annual payment, just shorten the life of it. That doesn't work as
well with a special assessment because all the other assessment payers are still going to be left paying and the annual amount that they pay may not be enough to cover the debt service payment. So essentially it doesn't um we did ask the bank about that specifically
to see if they would reamortize essentially the loan every time we you made a small partial prepayment. The initial response back did not seem like they were open to that. Um we haven't had a formal discussion with them. We're waiting
until tonight to do that. But the initial uh interpretation I guess of the response to it was that it may not work logistically to do that. But we're going to reconfirm that with them pending your um approval of the selection. Okay.
Because they they offered it in whole or in part. So I'd be interested to see kind of their feedback of what do they mean by in part? And that's that's exactly what we were we were trying to get at. We specifically asked them if the city received prepaid assessments from individual homeowners which you
might have on a sale of a home or something like that. Um can those be applied to prepay the loan in part but reamortize the loan? And the again their initial response was not changing the amortization. So all
effectively, and we'll again confirm that with them, but effectively what that means is you're paying off of the long end of the loan and you're just kind of shortening it, which depending on the type of financing, that might not be a problem. But when you talk when you
take an assessment financing, you essentially are slicing it off into all these pieces. So if you take away one of the slices because somebody prepaid um you need to make sure the remaining slices can still cover the annual payments. So if you're not like making
like a prat reduction across the board and you're just shortening the final uh payment a little bit, it may cause a problem covering the annual debt service u in the coming years. Yes, absolutely. And and and that's what I'm I'm just interested to see. They offered it. I
would love to know what their interpretation of that offer was. So, I appreciate you guys looking into it and I know that wasn't a make or break for the residents of Emerson Park either. So, it's it was just I like the option and and and just to give you um and maybe this will add a little bit more to it. So, as part of the request, we asked
for the ability to prepay and hold in part without penalty. That was one of the requests, but we separately asked for um the ability for what's called an extraordinary prepayment specific to prepaid assessments. So prepaid assessments came in, you would apply
them on a PR rata basis. They didn't and that was optional for them to propose. They didn't propose that specifically. So the question went back to them on your traditional prepayment, are you able to accommodate it? and it didn't appear that they were able to accommodate it exactly, but
we're going to confirm that tomorrow. Okay, I understand that. Thank you. Any other questions? Anybody from the public wish to speak on this one? Thanks for hanging in there, Dave. Dave Woods, Emerson Park. Um, just want
to thank you all. We're down to I think five steps out of the 42. Well, number 36 or 4. 42. Okay, we're on 36 and 42. So, um I guess I get to see you guys one more time on this the
fourth. Awesome. Thank you all. And Nick, once they get the prepayment done, we can start negotiating. Great. Okay. All right. Looking for a motion to approve selection of Snowas Bank regarding solicitation of RFP 2025-
A-180 related to the bank loan for Emerson Park. Got a motion by Commissioner Smith. Second. Second by Commissioner uh Neesa. All those in favor I. All oppose. Motion carries unanimously. Ordinance number 3000.
We pull that. Well, we're going we need to remove Ordinance number 3101. an ordinance of the city of Aapa, Florida, rewriting the comprehensive plan in its entirety with the exception
of the transportation element, providing for legislative findings, providing for conflicts, providing for separability, and providing for an effective date. For the record, Bobby, how uh this item has been pulled uh to a date of July 2nd as indicated by Mr. Williams in the agenda
review uh at the beginning of this council meeting to allow us additional time to look over the comprehensive plan as it relates to Senate Bill 180 which you all have received a copy of and an outline from me. So uh do we have a date certain or
July 2nd? Okay. Any questions for Bobby? Anybody from public speak on this one? Not we close public look for motion to um hold over ordinance number 3101 first reading to July 2nd to July July second.
Yeah. So we got a motion by Commissioner Vasquez second by Commissioner Smith. All those in favor. All opposed. Motion carries. Next up resolution 2025-20. Resolution 2025-20. A resolution of the city
council of the city of Aka, Florida, amending the budget for fiscal year beginning October 1, 2024 and ending September 30th, 2025. Providing for a budget amendment. Good evening, mayor, commissioners, Glance Sherman, finance director.
Uh oh, you got a long way to go. I know I'm waiting. Yeah, it's what I need to click. I don't know if it's Yeah, you got it's that. Oh my god. Oh yeah, it's it's a big one. There you go. Am I there? There you go.
Okay. Um budget amendment before you. Included in the budget amendment, of course, is the additional funding we were requesting for House number five in the amount of $27,09. Um, we can either move forward with that as we go out for the rebid or I can take
it off of this amendment and um bring it back based on what we get for the rebid. In addition to that is the 35,545 that we're taking from general fund to CRA fund for the wayfinding
signs. So the total budget amendment is in the amount of $125,18. Any questions for Blanch? Anybody from the public wish to speak on this one? Not close public hearing. Look for a motion to approve resolution 2025-20. So we're but we're approving but we're
re we're rebidding. Still rebidding it. Yeah. Yeah. It's still rebidding but it it Yeah. So we just want to put the money in place. Oh, okay. Okay. All right. Thank you. Got a motion by Commissioner Vasquez, second by Commissioner Smith. All those in favor? I oppose. Motion carries down. Thank you
very much. Thank you. All right, Mr. Velasquez, why don't you get us started? Um, it's a long night, so I am with you. I'm I'm going to pass and just uh say that it was a good week. We we attended,
you know, the Hall Speed, their opening, the doughnut shop that sold out by 9:30. Um, we've had a lot of different activities here. We went to the lanes um scholarship and
um we just had a lot of activities that we all participated in. Commissioner Anderson, that's a long night. I really don't have anything, but if there's anything that anyone need, please reach out to me via email or myself. Commissioner Smith, uh just want to say that I had a great
walking tour of the historic aposta that Main Street put on on last Saturday. All right. All right. And uh so very very very very well received and well done. Cool. All right, Commissioner Neesa. Yeah, just uh we attended the um
Emancipation Day celebration yesterday evening um at the Billine Center um in Alonzo Williams Park. It was um uh we had a decent amount of vendors there. I'm excited to start doing some uh some renovations to that park as well to make those even better. We do need to improve
that parking lot as well there. Um there were so many cars there that it's in the dirt and grass. And then we just need to kind of work on marketing those projects or those events a little bit better as well just to bring even more attendance out there to these um special occasions. And then uh final uh not final but my um
consistent reminder of office hours. It's every Thursday from 11 to 1 here at city hall um in 30 minute increments ready to talk about anything and everything that makes popco better. And I always reference ordinance 3081 that anybody that feels that they've been um
attacked or or that they just feel intimidated to come to city hall because of that ordinance, I'm happy to meet with you anywhere and everywhere to discuss any of your needs and concerns. Attack? What what do you mean by attack? It it just it just it's it's insulting to our our staff here at Apaka that you
would say attack, but whatever. All right, go ahead and brush it off. You're the one attacking that. How can I attack? See, right now you're getting so upset and trying to use intimidation on me and you do the same thing to our residents. So that's why right there is
what they is how this forms into an attack and intimidation to be able to engage their elected officials properly on city hall property in a building that is the people's building. So the girl out front who's I don't even know where she lives and not even from Papia is
been here for six months. I'm not sure how I could figure out who's sweetheart. But I don't know. How would you I didn't say her. I specifically said it's you. I've said that times very consistently. It's you. You're the problem. A problem with what exactly?
Intimidation. How do I intimidate? And inconsistent application of most ordinances and rules. How How do I intimidate them? There's residents that don't show up to city meetings anymore because of you. So So
like Wow. All right, Cliff. out of word. Okay. All right. How about you, Bradley? Just a quick update. Uh the Northwest Recreation Inclusive Playground project uh rolls on. The playground is uh pretty much complete now with the structures.
We've moved into the roadway uh relief drive and parking uh part of the project. So, if you go out to the park, you'll see a lot more construction happening to finish that uh project. So, we're excited uh at that and look forward to getting that project completed here soon. All right. All
right. Meeting adjourned.