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Heat. Heat. It's now 4:00 or 1,600 hours. The meeting of the Atlantic County Board of Commissioners is called to order. In compliance with the Open Public Meetings Act of the State of New Jersey, adequate notice of this meeting of the Atlantic

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County Board of Commissioners was provided in the following manner. posted on the Atlantic County website, published in the press of Atlantic City, and mailed to the Hamilton Gazette, and has been posted on the bulletin boards in the county office building in

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Atlantic City, the Stillwater Building in Northfield, and the county clerk's office in Maze Landing. This time, we'll have our our prayer. Dear Lord, help us to work together in a

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spirit of respect, cooperation, and purpose, keeping the well-being of all we serve at the forefront. Strengthen us with integrity, humility, and compassion, so that our actions reflect peace and the common good. >> Amen. >> Amen.

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>> Amen. >> Please rise for the flag salute. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and

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justice for all. >> Madam clerk, would you please call the role? >> Chairman, Commissioner Bertino and Commissioner Ruff are attending virtually today. Commissioner Daz will be a few moments late. >> Okay. >> Rino >> here. >> Burns

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>> here. Days >> here. >> Kerna here. Parker >> here. >> Ruffio >> here. >> Franker >> here. >> Grizzly >> here. First order of business is to review the

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minutes and approve them from the June 2nd meeting. So I will entertain a motion to adopt those meetings as presented. >> Moved. >> Second. >> Thank you. Any discussion on the minutes? Any corrections, deletions, etc.? >> Hearing none. Please call the role.

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>> Bertino, >> yes. >> Burns, >> yes. >> See, >> yes. >> Kern, yes. >> Parker, >> yes. >> Ruffio, >> yes. >> Anchor, >> abstain. >> Grizzly, >> yes. In accordance with the recently adopted

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ordinance updating the bylaws of the board of commissioners, there will be an early public comment period regarding agenda items only excluding items listed for a public hearing and an additional public comment period at the end of the

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meeting that will allow for public participation. If you would like the opportunity to address the board regarding any resolution listed on today's agenda prior to the board's discussion uh said resolution or the board of

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voting upon an agenda item, please do sir so early public comment period. Anyone attending in person who would like to speak regarding an agenda item or at public comment, please come to the podium. Speak into the microphone. State

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your name in the town in which you reside. You will be provided up to three minutes to speak during each public comment period. If you are attending virtually and would like to speak, please raise your hand during the agenda item or add a public comment at the end.

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I will call upon your name and a request to unmute will be sent. Please state your name and the town you reside in. You will provide be provided up to three three minutes to speak. At this time, is there anyone here in the public or

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online that would like to speak the public portion about any topic on the today's agenda? If not, I'll entertain a motion to close the public portion. >> Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to bring them up separately. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Second.

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Any discussion on closing the public comment? >> Hearing none. All in favor say I. I. >> Opposed. Motion. >> Motion carries. >> We also have as a little presentation today some folks Rutgers and at this

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time would you please come forward and thank you for being here. >> Thank you for having us. Um, and we apologize for the show short notice. We would like to be here more often, but you'll see from our presentation, we've been pretty busy. Um, so we'd like to

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give you a little report on what we've been up to. So, my name is Dana Ramage. Uh, if I didn't get the pleasure of meeting you in the fall, um, I'm the program associate with Atlantic County 4, which is part of, uh, Rucker Cooperative Extension of Atlantic County. Um, I'd like to tell you all a

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little bit about what we've been doing the past few months since we've been here. I think it was September last year. And like I said, we had all intentions of coming out a few times between then and now. But, um, what we've been up to, and I do have a um, a

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handout if any of you would like to have it at the end. I can hand it out to everybody. >> Certainly. >> Um, we've been doing lots of outreach. Uh, one of the things that I've been doing is uh, workshops for homeschoolers. Um, we started off in the fall of last year. We did the topic

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wonderful world of bugs, which was a big hit, and we did a continuation of that workshop in the spring um of 2026. We added on to that a separate workshop series on plant science, which the kids really loved. Um,

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we've been doing after school programs, which Kendra does quite a few as well. So, um, I branched out into the Buuna area, so I've been going to Clearary Middle School. Um, and I brought some of the similar topics. We're hoping to continue that collaboration into the fall of this year. Um, maybe calling

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them the Junior Boost Junior Scientists. Um, so we've been bringing more of our programs to different areas of the county. Um, Kendron did a really amazing model UN um that was a statewide program. So, he worked with folks across

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the state. Um we had 23 junior high participants and 10 high school participants that participated virtually starting in November and then that program culminated with a with a big onampus um program where they all got together and worked in teams to present

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their different topics in the model UN and it was nice because the high schoolers were sort of coaching and being role models for the the junior high members. Um, we had our C at the county level, we had our awards night in January. That

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was amazing. We had our uh ambassador team presenting everybody with their awards. Uh, we saw Commissioner Wrizley there, which was amazing to see you there. Um, we did a public presentation workshop and officer training. So, you

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may know that um, 4, we really push public speaking. We really like that our our members can leave with that skill at least um and many other skills that they acquire along the way, but we really like them to feel comfortable in the public speaking realm. Um so we did the

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public presentations workshop and we also did a club officer training. So that's all of our traditional clubs have officer boards. So they elect their own presidents, vice president, secretary, um, treasurers and they have to run for those positions and then they have

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different roles and responsibilities within those um, roles. We also offered a leaders workshop. Um, it seemed to be pretty well attended um, compared to past year. So we have a lot of new club leaders which I'll touch on

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towards the end of our presentation. Um, so it's we had people in the room that were 50year uh volunteers who have been doing this for decades and we had people that it was their first year volunteering. So it was a really great

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um opportunity for them to all talk and learn from each other. Um, and we had three or four different presentations that evening as well. We continued, I had already mentioned we continued the spring homeschooler workshops.

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Then we launched into uh February and March, we did our public presentations contest. So all of our kids that went to the public presentation workshop. Um and in fact all of our junior and senior members to be in good standing are required to do a public presentation at

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the county level. So, we offered a video submission option um where some some of our kids if they were unable to make the dates they uh they were able to submit a video which was nice because they offered that at the state level as well.

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So, we had over 50 entries in our video submissions and we had over 30 members present in person at our two co public presentation dates. Um, which was a vast amount more than we've had in in past

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years. And in fact, we had 12 of our um 12 of our seniors actually got qualifying scores to move on to the state level competition. And out of those 12, six of them actually took us up on the offer and and and and gave a try at the state level. So, we know they

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represented us well there. Um, we did several other clinics. I'll start to wrap that part up because I'll let you guys review all this, too. Um, we did a model horse clinic. We did a hog showmanship clinic. Um, this year at

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fair we're going to have our our hogs on display and the kids will be showing off all the skills that they've learned and there is going to be an auction for two of the hogs. So, if you're in the market for some pork, come on out. Um, and just a couple little highlights

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from 24 to 25 um, to the current project year, 25 to 26, we've grown our member enrollment by over 33%. From last year to this year, um, our volunteer enrollment has grown almost 50%.

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>> Um, we have four new clubs, three of them are horse clubs, and we have a new hiking club. We have two clubs that are looking to start after the fair this year. We have several camps. I'm going to let Kendron tell you a little bit more about his camps that he's running

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um over the summer. We have our big highlight of the year is fair. I hope to see many of you there. um August 7th and 8th this year um we're celebrating America's 250th and as as every year um

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our members compete and they enter the yearbook cover design contest. So our winner this year made a big birthday cake. It's all red, white, and blue. So that will be the highlight and the theme for this year. Um, and with that, I'm going to wrap up

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my portion because I'd love you to hear more from our youth ambassadors today. Um, we have with us Joel, Brooklyn, Cheyenne, and Chloe. I asked them to speak a little bit on different topics, giving you some of their personal anecdotes. Um, so we kind

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of went with a past, present, and future theme. So, you'll see that carried through as they as they tell you some of their personal stories. And thank you again for your time. Hello. Hello. Okay. Uh, hi. My name is Phil Shard. Uh, I'm talking about the past couple of for experience that I've

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done. Um, so a couple of for experience that I've done done that have been like really impactful. I've taken a lot out of was my first one was a shark program that I did uh where I had to do a couple of interviews, couple of uh a lot of

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Zooms, a lot of driving out to North Jersey to go meet people just so they can get to know me. But uh after I did that, I got to go to uh Miami, Florida to go either to go tag sharks, uh do a lot of research on them. So we did

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tagging, we did fin clipping, we did um parasite checks. We checked for parasites. And another program I did was I went to Atlanta, Georgia to go to a national for congress. And what that was was me and a

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thousand other kids from 4. So I met kids from like Alaska, Hawaii, um Texas, all over the country. There's I think there was 43 states there. Um, and that was pretty impactful because I got to meet a whole bunch of other people. I got to see what they what the difference is in

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4. Like there was kids who didn't even know what livestock club was. They didn't know what like they didn't show horses at their New Jersey at their not the Jersey at their 4 club. They didn't do all sorts of different agriculture programs. Um, what I'd like to carry forward based on

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these experiences is that 4 isn't just public speaking and it's not just a whole bunch of different clubs. Is that there's a lot of different programs you can do because I know when I was younger, I always thought for age was just, oh, it's just public speaking. I get to go show my chicken every year. I get to go do this boring stuff. But then

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as soon as I got into like my 15 16s, I was like, damn, there's some cool stuff I can do. And as I want some other younger kids to know is that it might when you're younger there's not that much you can do because you can't really go out and when you're 10 you don't want to throw your kid in Atlanta Georgia.

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That's pretty scary. But when they get older is there's a lot more cooler experiences and it's definitely worth the wait because I've had some very very cool opportunities. >> Thank you. Thank you.

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Um hello, my name is Brooklyn Village, um from Atlantic County, just like them. Um I'm the current ambassador along with Joel who just spoke. Um so in the present, uh something I have to say is within my club, I am the secretary of

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the rabbit club, the whistles, whiskers, and wabbits club. And the um I am the vice president of my livestock club. My main area of interest is poultry. I really like to show poultry. I breed poultry. Um, Salmon Fables is like they're my breed. I really like them.

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And I'm the president of the youth council and as well as one of the main ambassadors for um, Atlanta County. Um, as an ambassador, I help manage for fair and I recruit members to 4. I have done a variety of different interviews and

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talking speakings like this and I help recruit um, people into 4. It's it's really it's as Joel said, it's really it's really like um very helpful for youth to learn more about like life beyond high school, beyond middle school, beyond wherever. And like they learn to be themselves and they learn a

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lot about kind of niche topics that like they probably wouldn't know in school or anywhere else. Like I I wouldn't know how to breed standard poultry outside of 4. Doesn't make any sense, you know? So, you know, it's it's really I'm really like passionate about this, you know. So

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um and I'll carry this forward with me. So acquired traits such as leadership, public presentation and all my knowledge on poultry all carry on with me throughout the rest of my life. So when I first started for I really wasn't comfortable talking in front of people. I was kind of shy really. I didn't know much about a whole lot about other than

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just school middle school when I started it was kind of my life was a little limited. So I mean yeah that's kind of what I'm doing in my present and also I'm preparing for fair right now. So there will be new there's there'll be another ambassador that replaces me and Joel this year in fair. So I have to

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kind of prep them and make sure that they know how to take the next steps forward and that's really my present moment. Um I also have um poultry shows coming up in the summer and I can't wait to can't wait to do them. I really like poultry shows and I also have leadership

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things like I have the state teen conference that I hope to attend and so yeah it's pretty much what I'm doing in the present with 4 and I really encourage you guys to look into it if you have anybody. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. >> Hello. My name is Cheyenne Bilch. I'm

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her sister. Um I'm going to talk a little bit about future plans I guess for 4. Um, I can tell you a little bit about my personal future plans. I would like to attend college, probably Rutgers because it's a good school. Um, um, a little bit about my present moment, I

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guess, background in 4. I'm an ambassador as well. Um, just on the team. I won a couple years ago. I'm president of livestock and poultry club. Um, I'm vice president of the whiskers, whisks, and wabbits club. And I'm also secretary of youth council. Um and yeah,

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I'm also on the stain state teen council board um for New Jersey. Um I I participate in three major like um project areas. I participate mostly in poultry because I also breed chickens. Um I do KV and also leadership with

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youth council. Um and in the near future, I have a couple goals I would like to kind of attain with these future with these main project areas. Um I'm going to Kentucky this year again for nationals. Um, I went last year for aven bull. We placed third, my sister and I.

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Um, and then this year we're going for poultry judging. So, I'm learning about how to more about judging because I mostly breed, but I haven't really done much in judging. So, I hope to attend a lot of things there. Um, I'm going to Texas to learn about it this year. Um, and um, I feel like for has really

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helped me kind of expand on my opportunities with that. Um, I'll touch a little bit about that later. Um I'm also going to um it's kind of also expanded my um kind of realm I guess because I started out in just regular poultry shows for 4 shanks shows and then I learned more about kind of like

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the next step forward. I now attend um nationals in Ohio every year. Um my sister and I we placed in showmanship last year which was quite fun. Um and overall I just kind of kind of allowed for to allowed me to like graduate I guess from like certain areas. I now I'm

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like at a higher advanced level than I ever kind of dreamed I would ever be. Um and a couple of my future plans I guess um that I feel like for has also benefited me. Um it kind of like gives you like the opportunity to do things instead of just like telling you that

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it's there. Like it kind of it gives you the opportunity to grow I feel like and a lot of people don't really understand that. It's not just like a something a club that you go you learn you listen to someone talk to you at at you about something and then you're just like okay go find something you have to do for has

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literally given me the opportunity to expand upon my horizons and I feel like that's something that that's really important like you want to get better at public presentations okay we're going to give you state and county level presentations so you can practice it um if you want to go do show poultry we'll

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give you 4 sanctioned poultry shows you can learn and then you can go to Ohio every year for APA nationals or if you want to go go to I don't know learn about some specific project area like I know every project area has their own sort of meetings and stuff they'll go

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okay we'll give you an opportunity to learn and I feel like that's very helpful for pursuing people's like futures which is really important um I feel like for youth to be able to learn about and I feel like for does a really good job at doing that. Thank you.

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>> Hi. Um I'm Chloe Cantona. Um I'm going to give you a little summary of what my fellow ambassadors had just talked about. Um when we look at the past, it's easy to see that 4 is a long-standing tradition of strengthening youth and communities and it's been serving the nation for over a hundred years.

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Specifically, I want to talk about our baton leader, Miss Joanie. She is a huge asset to the 4 and she manages so many other things besides Bassan and she's just come up on her 50th year of being involved in our 4 and we celebrated her

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at our past um awards ceremony and she is repeatedly expressing how much for means to her how much it's shaped her into the person she is today and how much it's impacted her and the way she wants to impact kids like us and future kids like us who are going to be taking

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our positions and everything. She's a 4H tour alumni. So, she's been twirling with us for a long, long time since she was probably younger than myself, maybe like eight or nine years old. So, a long long time. Um, today

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some of our 4 programs look a little different as project areas expand and continue to evolve to address emerging issues such as technology and environment stewardship. But along the way, we are currently uh currently provides opportunities in leadership,

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public speaking, STEM, agriculture, community, and service. One of the programs I'm currently involved in is the ROV habitat restoration. It's through Ruckers. It's a super cool thing. We've uh just started. We're just going to be working on it throughout the summer and throughout the year. We

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operate an ROV and we're going to hopefully soon take it out to look at the floor the floors of the sea and give feedback to scientists to help with um habitat restoration and different ways

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we can fix problems that are on the the bed floor. And we um we're hoping to keep continuing that throughout the summer. Um what hasn't changed is the fact that today's members and tomorrow's

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work for our tomorrow's workforces volunteers and elected officials supporting 4 is an investment in the county uh in the country's future success and your guys' continued support ensures future generations to have access to public positive youth development opportunities and build

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strong communities. Um my hope for 4 in the future is that we can continue to bring more people into the community because 4 is a prime um prime foundation for such growth in a person's life and such impact and personality and

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everything that makes me me is from 4. I wouldn't be the same person I am without 4. So I'd hope to get more people involved, help our youth become the great people that we're going to need for our future. so we can continue to um

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serve in so many different ways. Um thank you all for your ongoing support and dedication to the 4 community and uh thank you and >> good afternoon everyone. My name is Kendra Diet. I'm the county agent for 4.

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And first of all, I think they're being a little uh conservative with their uh glowing remarks. Uh Chloe uh the ROV is a underwater drone that she uses to go to uh study the the the habitat underwater. So she's been practicing uh

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and Joel been practicing at pools and different things to learn doing an amazing thing and the twins are more amazing than they'll let them off let they say that they are. They also go to our they go to our camp up in uh Stokes. They do a a they're always

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involved and that's the thing I want to talk about is Atlantic County. Uh we not only shine in Atlantic County, we shine at the state and we shine at the national level too. Our kids are uh our job here is make sure our kids get every

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resources that Ruckers have to offer. Um this summer we have several camps. So, I have a couple kids from Atlantic City area that's going to Ruckers for a week for a STEM uh a STEM uh ambassador uh camp. They learn how to they talk to professors. They learn different STEM

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pathways to learn their STEM identity and then they're supposed to train up there and come back and then teach when they come back here. They're supposed to uh they give like 50 hours of uh volunteer service. So, not only are they they're building their STEM identity, they're also learning about civic engagement and how important it is to

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give back to the community. Uh we have some programs here this summer too. We have two STEM camps on the on the campgrounds and I'll leave the flyer here for you guys. Uh one is rocketry and aviation and one is robotics and engineering. So those are backtoback weeks and then after that um we have

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another there's going to be a speaking engagement and ACCC where we're talking about how we hire college students local from Stockton or ACC. And then week after that it's going to be fair. A week after that, we're going to do another camp in Atlantic City when it comes to

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uh e-play live at the family uh center in Oceanside one and two. And then after that, we're doing a ACA environmental stewardship program. Then after that, we have our fishing program. So this whole summer, we have programs after programs after programs after programs to make

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sure our kids in Atlantic County get everything they deserve and need to be the best citizens they could possibly be. Um I came here to thank you guys for all your support. I want you to know uh your your investment in us is well uh well earned and well respected. We are

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working from Atlantic City to all the way to Buuna. We're trying to touch every aspect of this county. We want to make sure that we're I don't know if you know it's going to be hard, but we're going to make sure we're in every city or make sure that we have uh every kid has access to us. So, I just want to say

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thank you guys for your support and it it it um we want to make sure that you know what we're doing and you know uh hopefully I know some of you guys uh kids I think someone's kid came to our fishing program last year um hopefully they applied again if they could um so

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we're going to bring more and more uh programs um nationally actually nationally we had a program in Atlantic City at the family center where we u strengthening families through STEM activities so we believe that you know, uh, science literacy is the wave of the

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future, workforce of the future. Let's also bring the parents in to, you know, help build those STEM habits, help build that STEM capacity. So, uh, not only can the kids get it, but the parents understand, they need to be science literate, too. In this day and age, everyone needs to understand STEM. So,

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we bringing the parents in. The program was so well accepted that we had a workshop in Detroit, one of our conferences. Um there's also we we not just focus on youth, we also f focus on family strengthening. We have a fact sheet that's coming out now about uh

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engaging fathers. So we're constantly growing. We're constantly trying to improve uh youth development and it couldn't be done without your help. So thank you guys. Thank you for being here today and uh looking forward of course to the fair

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coming up and uh I just wish that 4 was not the best kept secret you know in Atlantic County. I if I had a magic wand, I'd like to have a boatload of money to promote the uh 4H program

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because u there is so much opportunity there from uh from hogs to robotics and everything in between the vastness of the programs is uh quite shocking and um it's done with volunteer help and that's

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that's that's the key. It's done out of a a passion to provide these services to our kids here in Atlantic County. And like I say, I'm looking forward to the fair this year as always. Anyone else on the governing body like to speak?

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Not not I want to thank you all for coming and we'll see you at the fair. Right. Thanks again. And you don't have to stay for the meeting. Thank you. >> Thank you.

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>> Nice job. >> Please, please. >> Yeah. Okay. All right. Before we get into our resolutions to pass and so on so forth, is there any member of the governing body that needs to pull out one uh for

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individual discussion or everyone comfortable? Yes. 301 and 306. Okay, we'll consider them separately then. Okay, we have our grants

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up front here. Uh, resolutions 293 through 296. I'll entertain a motion to combine and adopt those resolutions. >> Second. >> Any discussion on those grants? >> 293.

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>> Yes. Uh the question is how will the 75956,100 in homeless grants be allocated among service providers and programs? >> I know it it covers certain utility bills for people. I know

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that there's a more extensive list. Steve, you want to comment on that? whole operations that county has that deals with what you said utility bills and uh pretty much homelessness

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cooling centers in the act cooling centers utilities. >> Okay. 287. >> That's part, right? Can we get to that one yet? >> Not yet. We're doing 293 to 296.

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>> Any other discussion? Hearing none, I call the roll. >> Martino, >> yes. >> Burns, >> yes. >> Daz, >> yes. >> Kerna, yes. Parker, >> yes. >> Ruffio, >> yes. Banker, >> yes.

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>> Grizzly, >> yes. Moving on with our professional service agreements, I'll entertain a motion to combine and adopt 297 and 298. >> Move. >> Second. >> Second to that. Thank you. Been moved

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and seconded. Any discussion? >> 297. >> Yes. What inmate healthcare improvements are anticipated through the $700,000 medical provider? >> Well, it's just to establish a pool of

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medical providers. >> Atlantic Care and Champion, I believe it's Champion Physical Therapy. >> Atlantic Care and Identify. >> What was the second one? I'm sorry. >> I think it's Champion Physical Therapy. Champion Physical Therapy. Thank you.

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>> Okay. Any other discussion clerk, please call the role. >> Yes. >> Burns, >> yes. Daz, >> yes. >> Karn, yes. Parker, >> yes. >> Rafio, >> yes. >> Spanker, >> yes. >> Grizzly, >> yes.

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Okay, moving on to competitive contracts. Um, since let's uh can we consider 299 and 300 together? Or I can do that, too. How about we do that? That says better idea, Mar. All

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right. All right. We will consider then 299 through 306 with the exception of 306 and 301. So it'd be 299, 300, 302, 303, 304, and 305.

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Chair will entertain a motion. >> Move. >> Second. >> Any discussion on those resolutions, which by the way, all of course at every meeting, the budget committee reviews all these items that has to do with money and recommends approval.

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Any other discussion? Hearing none. All in favor curall mart. >> Martino. >> Yes. >> Burns. >> Yes. >> Daz. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Parker. >> Yes. >> Ruffio. >> Yes. >> Shanker.

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>> Yes. >> Grizzly. >> Yes. Now we'll go back to consideration of resolution 301. Please read it by title. competitive contract with Jewish Family Services and Ideal Institute of Technology for the provision of the workforce in Innovation

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and Opportunity Act out of school youth program amount not to exceed $1,120,000. >> Second. >> Thank you. It's been moved and seconded discussion on 301. >> Yes, I have discussion. um being on the finance committee. First of all, I want

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you to know I'm enthusiastically in support of this, but I want to put on the record that when I first read it, I thought it was a collapse between Jewish family services and I found out that it wasn't that they're

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pewing out a percentage of this to Jewish family services which ideal had this contract for And so I asked the question then why did I ideal underperform if you pull part of

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the contract out and uh the answer that was given because they wanted more diversity in the program in this contract and I think it sets for me a good precedent that we are

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concerned about diversity in the contracts that we're And if you go back attorneys and listen to program or listen to the meeting that we're saying that we are concerned about diversity and that our

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contracts and our vendors should represent the diversity of the county citizens that we represent. I just want you to know that if we're pulling we're going to pull this contract out and say

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we want more diversity when I know that ideal as a minority owned business. I know their staff their staff is extremely diverse and I've been to some of their graduations that graduations are extremely diverse. So I'm not questioning how JFS is going to break

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more, but I wanted the record that if we can pull a contract for the soul of not a company or vendor underperforming, but for the reason of diversity, then if it's good for one, then it ought to be

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good for all. And so I just want to put it on record that that's the reason that they are having two different vendors on a contract that one vendor had on. And I just I think it's great. I think it's wonderful. But I know I just want to put

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on record that that's the reason and that's something that we ought to consider on all of our contracts. >> Back back to administration. Is that was that the sole reason or tell >> you the truth? There's three people. Fran can probably answer that better.

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>> Well, we could go back to the record. That was the sole reason that was given. >> Okay. Yeah. That's what we heard yesterday, right? But there's three people on the committees that identified that review the competitive contract. Three people. I trust you. I I was on

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the phone too. That's >> brand if you want to interject anything. Love to hear. >> Yeah. I I just wanted to add to what Commissioner Days said. The other the other issue which has come up recently in our government governance requirements and Commissioner Days I did

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not get into this explanation with you but the other requirement that we have in the competitive procurement process is to have documentation that it is truly a competitive process and that we have multiple responses.

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The recent comments from the Department of Labor in Trenton is that they want to see the diversity. They want to see multiple contracts to document the competitive process

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that that is coming from the Department of Labor. They don't want to see just one contract award. They want to see multiple contract awarded. So the diversity discussion was on the issue of having multiple contracts so

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that we could show from a procurement perspective under WEOA title one law that we are competitively procuring those contracts and it's not a single award.

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On that note, I'd have to say that I agree completely with Commissioner Days. And if that is the case, and it sounds like the Department of Labor is speaking towards our procurement process and holistically, not just in this particular case. So, if it's if if we're

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going to show it in this case, then it needs to show across the board in the rest of our contracts. And if and if I can do that and I get those kind of responses then then I would agree with you. In some cases if we only get one response and in the last

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contract we only had one response that was from ideal. >> In this goround for the three-year procurement process we did have multiple contracts. So we were able to make multiple awards. >> Nice.

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Well, on the competitive contract, we only see one on these at on the resolutions today. So, so out of out of all the other resolutions, there were only one that had all the others had uh just one person who could be in

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>> I'm sorry, I'm not following there. There were four of the >> I'm saying I'm saying there's only one one one resolution that has two people who've been awarded a portion of a contract. So I'm saying on the other ones there were no there was only one person that bid bid on these other

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resolutions. >> Those were contract the others are >> the others are contract renewals. They are not competitive procurements. So they are a continuing award of a contract a three-year contract. Usually

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a three-year contracts have a one-year award with two one-year renewals. And that is the responsibility of uh the representation from private sector of the workforce development board to review those contracts from prior year

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to determine whether or not they would receive a continuation of that contract award >> since we're talking. I'm sorry. for you. >> No, I just want to know that we're going to hold you accountable then to make sure that if there are multiple

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contracts, multiple bids that we like to see the diversity and see who those biders are as that you shown anymore. So, we >> I'm sorry I I'm having difficulty hearing what is being verbalized from at

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least from the laptop that I have. So, could you repeat that, please? I just said if that's the case then we'll be making sure that we hold you accountable to make sure that if you can award multiple contract multiple vendors a portion of contract that represents

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real true diversity for Atlantic County we want to make sure that you're held accountable for that >> and and we appreciate that commissioner DS the other thing is that this process goes through the contract uh director so purchasing director who

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is Paul McConnover does set up all of the processes relative to procurement. It goes through bid express and then those responses come to selected members of the workforce development board for review, approval and scoring

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as is stipulated to and required by regulation and statute from the workforce development board and workforce innovation and opportunity act. >> Okay, I understand that.

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Okay. Any other discussion? Mr. Sure. If I can, since we're kind of on the topic already, um I know a few meetings a while back we had some discussion about we're going back a while maybe over a year. We had some discussion about our contracts. I believe it was

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brought up by Commissioner Ballas at the time about um when it goes to procurement having some sort of I don't know some sort of uh I know we couldn't say preference. I can't remember the right word so excuse me I'm

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using the wrong word. uh given local contractors here in Atlantic County, try to look for local contractors first in some shape or form. >> We always do. >> We haven't really heard back anything. So, we could hear something from administration to update us on what that what that looks like if that's taking

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place. >> Are we considering >> Sure. I'll leave you. I'm not even sure you're allowed to do that. >> Well, there was it was a gray area. We know it for sure. That's why I said I'm not sure if I'm using the correct word by saying >> I mean I know you can give you know there's certain provisions that allow minority preferences, women preferences,

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but I don't think you're allowed to say Atlanta County is going to have preference regardless of cost and regardless of qualifications. Mr. Could we circle back and just to see what's go what we're doing with that and then >> you know if we can't then we then we'll

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know and if if we're doing something then we'll know you know just to be updated. >> Thank you. >> Well the bottom line on this program is I understand it's you know it benefits uh kids that are 16 to 24 and a minimum

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of 80 will be served. So that's a good >> in each program. Yes, >> that's a good thing. >> That's a very good thing. >> Okay. Uh, any other discussion on resolution 301? >> If not, Madame Clerk, please call the

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role. >> Martino, >> yes. >> Burns, yes. Days, >> yes. >> Kern, >> yes. >> Parker, >> yes. >> Ruff, >> yes. >> Shanker, >> yes. >> Grizzly, >> yes. Madame clerk, please read resolution 306,

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>> renewal competitive contract with DB Grant Associates Incorporated for the provision of career services amount not to exceed $1,113,3 have a motion to adopt 306. >> Second move and second discussion. >> Yes,

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BB DR Associates have been underperforming for years and and that's been noted and stated and I don't think the administration is satisfied with EB associates

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and yet we're granting them an extension of another year contract. I don't if if we looked at all the other competitive contracts outside of social services it was roads and bridges >> if they underperformed you wouldn't use

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them. But when it comes to social services, we wink and we continue to award vendors that are not performing. So I think that's something to really be concerned about because these social

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services are roads and bridges to a better life for a lot of people. and to not make sure that we hold them to deliverables. I think that's that's that's poor judgment on our side and so on 306

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that's going to be a no vote for me >> the administration >> I'm not aware I'm sorry Mr. This is the first I've been heard of any kind of underperformance. >> Okay. Well, you that was that we had

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yesterday we had that discussion in budget and finance committee. >> I thought you thought you were family. Now, you you spoke about Jewish Family Services as well that and and and since you brought it up because we were asking asked the question, >> why would you give Jewish family

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services a portion of this when the last time they had a similar program, they underperformed? >> Yeah, I remember that part. I don't remember that global part. >> Okay. That's why that's why I'm glad that our our budget finance committee meetings are taped and you can go back

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and take a look at that. >> I'm sorry, Pat. I just this is the first time I don't remember hearing that yesterday about >> I don't recall >> underperforming I >> I don't recall that. >> I don't remember that. I'll look into it and get

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>> just just replay the tape. That's all >> Commissioner Days. I'm I'm sorry. I'm going to >> the the one thing that we did talk about was sending you the performance report for the current fiscal year from July 1

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to June 30th. And I do have that information and we'll be sending that to you so you can see the data associated with performance for Grant Associates. >> That's correct. >> Since since we're I know >> so I will I will forward that

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information to you. I believe that that would um contradict to some degree the the statement about underperformance. So >> no what's going to contradict it is what's on the what's on the recorded uh of the meeting.

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>> Okay. That and that may be too. >> Yeah. If you if if you because that's that's what we said. That's what we asked for. And uh and we had the discussion that the only reason and it came from from you. I think it was you

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that the only reason that you wanted to extend this because you didn't have anyone else at this time. It would be better to have someone underperforming than not have anybody at all providing the service. >> And that that statement is correct. And

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I did say that there was a staffing turnover issue in the prior year. That that was one of the things that we did have concerns about that had stabilized in the current year. And we were much more satisfied with that process. But I did also express concern about having to

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revoke a contract and the turmoil that that would create in service delivery for the interim time that it would take to create a new a new procurement process and establish a new contract. >> Yeah. But I think you have to weigh

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benefit and loss of having an underperform in something as important as career development. >> Agreed. and I will send you the data that is current for their performance. >> Very good.

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>> I have a question. >> Sure. >> Can we all have that information before we vote on it? >> Sure, sir. Apparently, of course, >> you want to motion to table this contract.

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Second >> discussional >> there's no discussion on motion >> impact any of the grant fund >> it shouldn't as long as the when is the next uh meeting for decision

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on the contract award >> July 7th July 7th >> that should not have an impact act at least not at that point because I don't think invoicing for grant associates would be until the end of the month. >> So as long as the grant money is not

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being jeopardized, it sounds like it's not. >> It's been moved and seconded to table resolution 306. Do >> we have to take it off? What do we do? We take it off. I mean, it's already on the table

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here. Madam clerk, please call the role. >> Certino, >> yes to table. >> Burns, yes. >> Haze, >> yes. >> Kerna, yes. >> Parker, >> yes. >> Ruff. Ruffio.

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>> Banker. >> Yes. >> Grizzly. >> Yes. >> Resolution 306 has been successfully tabled. Yep. >> Okay. Moving on. >> Mr. Chair, if we could before we move on too quickly, we're asking for outcomes

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and measurables. I think that's what u commissioner de is is talking about. I think that applies to 301 as well. So, if we're getting the measurables and outcomes for 306, I'd like to have a 301 as well.

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>> There are no outcomes for 301. Those are new contracts. Gotcha. Okay. Thank you. >> Okay. Final year of this contract for these people >> year like said contracts per year with the

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options. >> I I understand how they work. I'm asking what year are we in second? Third >> 306. >> 306. fix. I believe it's effective. >> It is a second renewal of the first contract term was a 2-year term. Then

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there was a one-year renewal. And this is the second one-year renewal on a four-year contract. Four-year proposal, four-year contract here. >> Okay. >> Okay. We good? All right.

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Let's look at uh two change orders 307 through 30 308 here. We entertain a motion to combine and adopt these. >> Second. >> Move and second. Any discussion? Hearing none. Madam clerk, please call the role. >> Martino,

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>> yes. >> Burns, yes. Stays, >> yes. >> Kern, yes. >> Parker, >> yes. >> Ruffio, >> yes. >> Shanker, >> yes. >> Grizzly, >> yes. Okay, moving on. >> Under miscellaneous, uh, chair will

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entertain a motion to adopt 309 through 316. >> Move. >> Second. >> Been moved and seconded. Any discussion on resolutions 309 through 316? >> Mr. Chair on 315.

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Um, what employees and fiscal impacts result from limiting state health benefits program options? >> Well, as it was explained, the budget meeting is to lower the premiums and of course it's a means a higher out-ofpocket cost.

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Any other discussion? If not, Madam Clerk, please call the role. >> Rino. Yes. >> Burns. >> Yes. >> Daz. >> Yes. >> Karn. >> Yes. >> Parker. >> Yes. >> Ruffio. >> Yes. >> Shanker. >> Yes. >> Grizzly.

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>> Yes. Okay. Madam clerk, please read 317 by title. memorandum of agreement with the Atlantic County Prosecutor's Office and the PBA local 77 SOA and authorizing the necessary steps to implement the terms and conditions of the MOA included in

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the successor contract covering the time frame commencing January 1, 2026 through and including December 31st, 2028. >> Okay. >> Chair will entertain a motion move >> second discussion. We did have a discussion on

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this in the budget committee and I understand the the average uh increase was a 3.67% I recall. Mr. Ferguson, would you like to comment? >> Uh the the resolution would would

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approve the memorandum of agreement. Uh this was the uh superior officers association which uh is comprised of lieutenants and captains who work at the prosecutor's office. Uh it's the last of uh three matters. Uh the other two

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groups, the uh detective rank and file and the sergeant groups, those were settled at the mediation phase of uh interest arbitration. uh this group did not settle uh at mediation and a full-blown hearing was

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held and the arbitrator um entered his decision on uh May 26th and um as a result of that the bottom line is the big uh the big item in this was the retention of the two-tiered salary

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structure uh which was first adopted uh two prior contracts ago. So, the two-tiered structure has been in existence for the last 10 years. The union was seeking to eliminate the two tiers. Uh, and based on the testimony

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and the evidence presented, the arbitrator uh ruled that the union had not um overcome the presumption that the status quo should prevail and therefore he affirmed the uh the two-tiered structure. the overall savings the the

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union's proposal would have been uh when you combine the difference between what lieutenants would get under a two-tiered structure and what captains would get the total is a a difference of the S SOA proposal would have been about $30,000

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more than the two county proposal. So it it uh uh has the efficacy of uh saving money uh or potentially saving money for the county going forward. And uh it's a it's a good result for the county. Uh

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and uh you know we we ask the board uh to uh approve the resolution and allow this uh contract uh the contract language changes to be made and u uh you know then that resolves all of the uh

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issues regarding the detective bureau out at the Atlantic County prosecutor's office. >> So Mr. Ferguson the Mr. Chair through you to Mr. Ferguson. So the agreement is within uh budget projections.

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>> Yes. >> Very good. And any other discussion on 317 hearing? None. Madam clerk, please call the role. >> Martino, >> yes. >> Burns, >> yes. Stays, >> abstain. >> Fern, >> yes. >> Parker, >> yes. >> Ruffio,

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>> abstain. Shanker, >> yes. >> Grizzly, >> yes. >> We have two chapter 159s. Entertain a motion to combine and adopt 318 through 319. >> Second and move and second. Any

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discussion? Hearing none. Madam clerk, please call the role. >> Martino, >> yes. >> Burns, >> yes. >> Daz, >> yes. >> Kern, yes. >> Parker, >> yes. Ruff. >> Yes. >> Banker. >> Yes. >> Grizzly. >> Yes.

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We have uh two appointments. Chair will entertain a motion to combine and adopt number 320 and 321. >> Second. >> Moved and second. Any discussion on the appointments except thank you very much for your

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service. It's appreciated. >> Madam clerk, please call the role. Certino, >> yes. >> Burns, yes. Stays, >> yes. >> K, yes. >> Parker, >> yes. >> Ruffio, >> yes. >> Shanker, >> yes. >> Grizzly,

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>> yes. Okay, moving on. Written communications and petitions. Don't have anything like to share? I got one letter here from the office of the mayor of Port Republic

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and it's basically thanking us for their assistance to the county roads before our Jersey Genesis triathlon that was held on May 30th. And uh Mayor Monica Gverson goes on to say that the port

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never looked any better and we really appreciate your employees efforts for the work they've done. Thank you. That was nice. >> That was very nice. Thank you to uh administration and our staffing. >> Absolutely.

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>> Anyone else have any items under written communications? Yes. Just not all of us. Any special committees like to give a report? Only any reports.

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Move on. Unfinished business. New business. If not >> for unfinished business, there is education and schools committee. We did discuss a few times a draft of a memo

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that we have not completed um at the committee met and there was some disagreement about the memo itself. So we did not pass for the um through subcommittee support to go to ACCCC.

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So, what my plan is at this point is to send it to the commissioners for review and um so that we can have discussion on what we would like to do. I know that commissioner and she's here so I won't speak for her. Uh there was a portion of it that the the letter is hoping to for

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the the monies that we give to the college. Um hoping for this commissioner board to have uh some very limited oversight on how that money is being used, how it's being spent, um what it's going towards.

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I know we've made some comments about in the past going towards enrollment and administration has obliged us and they realize that there's concerns with enrollment at the college and things of that nature. But this would just be a this would encourage a meeting. The

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purpose of the me was to encourage a meeting a quarterly meeting with at least the subcommittee of education schools if not the entire board to let us know how ACCCC is fairing throughout the process. and um in terms of their

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budget and and and their goals and how maybe we could, you know, help them as well and moving forward to strategically help them move forward with their goals. Now, I know Commissioner Kern, again, I'll let her speak for herself. She um was she was in favor of the meetings,

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correct? But not so much the memo, >> right? I was not in favor of giving them basically, as I looked at it, like a report card to fill out. I felt that it would um benefit us more, especially since we have a new president out there, to have a one-on-one conversation as we

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move through and possibly do it quarterly, but not in that aspect. And it wasn't just me. So, >> right, it was well, I didn't want to speak for Commissioner Davies because he's not here. >> Correct. >> But >> that that's the committee. It did not get out of committee.

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>> It did not come out of committee. So my plan is to share again the memo with the full board so the full board can read the memo and we can possibly have some discussion over that. But in terms of meeting with the president that has that is something that um has been arranged

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and we will be sitting down with the new president to discuss. So I just want to make sure that we're before that meeting happens that we're on the same page on what that discussion is going to entail. >> Okay. Anything else under new business? Okay. And the chair will open the

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meeting to the public for comment. Can I have a motion, please? >> Second. All >> in favor? I >> I >> opposed. Motion carries. The meeting is now open to the public for any any item.

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Yes, sir. Please come up to the podium and give your name and where you live, please. Good evening everybody. Um, my name is Cornelius McCoy Boom by birth. I'm known around the world as

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Goldie Boom. I am an exoffender. I was kidnapped in 1976. Was given a life sentence. They said I will never ever hit the streets again. As we speak today, God allowed me to be

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released. November the 4th, election day of 2020. I've been in these streets since then. Why? At 8 years old, I was indoctrinated into the Black Panther Party. I was

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indoctrinated by selling the newspapers in Los Angeles, California, where I was born at in a house. subsequent assist and I'm just giving you the background based upon the fact that I have issues with this county. One of the issues is that

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I have a LLC nonprofit which the secretary in coming county authorized it in her own right and with her steel and her stamp. I did work in County. I was working along with the

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prosecutor. her um program was teaching the children the truth about home life as opposed to street life. Subsequent since then I came down here to Atlantic City in 2021. There was so many wavered people I call

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you call them homeless people blocking the traffic just laying here there and everywhere. I took it on my own initiative took them to eat at the restaurants with no money. I went to the proprietor. I said, "Look, these people gonna prevent you from getting

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customers, feed them, they're hungry, they was eating out the garbage can." Subsequent since then, they have been removed on their own as well as along with the system of Atlantic City. I came to Pleasantville, I did a

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a ministry with seven ministers on the corner of uh what's the name of that main street where the bus turned at? Washington and no uh new uh >> Main Street, isn't it?

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>> Maine and and on that corner right there. >> I don't know what the corner >> where the pavilion is right there. >> I took the people out of there. >> I went with Azo, which is a organization that been in existence before I was even born down the street. I took them to

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city hall. I took them to various agencies that's in place to help people. I even took some people to IDEA so that they could get a job that was underage was a lot of young people. The people I call way were people that had jobs

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during the co 19 they they lost their job and they've been confused and mind bottled ever since. So by giving them the doctrines of God a lot of them changed their lives and turned yourself over to God that day. So I took them with me to ideal when it was on Main

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Street. They couldn't get no help. I took some other people of minority that was of different nationality. To them, they helped them, but they selected in who they help. That's neither here nor there. My purpose here today is that I

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need your help to help me to continue to help people. My motto is people helping people help themselves. in prison. I couldn't read or write. The Wharton at the prison at that time in 1976

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told me to get an education. I acquired it. Upon getting education, I set up classes and schools to teach other people that was too ashamed to say they couldn't read and they couldn't write. And I helped them. Subsequent. They sent

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me to Rawway. In Rawway, I set up a program named Scare Straight. juvenile awareness program. I see some faces in here that have been there. They seen it. I wrote it up after I learned how to read and write. I graduated

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from Mercer County College with the AA degree in community service social science. I also have a certificate of parallegalism from Department of Correction as well as Mercer County Community Scholar. I was the highest in

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my class. They said I cheated. They put me in the middle of the floor, made me take everything off and search me. They gave me the test, I missed a half a question. The other test, I missed one question based upon the fact that I did court line. Some of you are familiar

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with court line. I represented individuals that was given charges in there for violating the rules and regulations. Everything that I've done is helping people to help themselves. Now, I have an organization here. I live in 158 Mana

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Drive and it's on the borderline of uh Absin and Pleasantville. I live in Pleasantville. Before you cross that red light, you cross that red light, you're in Abse. Now, what it is is that I need your help and helping me to continue to help

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people. I've been doing it in the streets. I don't have no office. I got a phone number. I got a a place I'm staying with another woman that put me in. And I take my social security check and I give it all to her for my rent because I can't pay the whole $1,100

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that she wants for half of her rent for housing me in her establishment. I've been in the streets while on parole. I'm still on parole right today. I've sent to different agencies to get my

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paperwork. Department of Correction number one. They have about 10 boxes like this full of the achievements and compliments that I've gotten in the 44 years I was in prison. On the day that they apprehended me, the

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asalent was 6'4, black hair, black eyes, black complexion. I was only six feet for 20 to 40 pounds when they locked me up. How can I go through the system for a murder trial? They had the asalent and they gave it to me because they knew I

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was affiliated or associated with the Black Panther. I wasn't no member at that time. I still in my traveling days. And what happened was that my trial was a half a day. Another half a day they

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brought me back, found me guilty and sent me to uh Yville, which was reception. From Yard, I stayed there 60 days. They shipped me to Trench State Prison. You tell me how can that be possible? I'm I can't show it to you

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now, but I got a burn hair naturally born. I got hazarded eyes and my complexion is light bright. >> Now, I know you want to shut me down, but >> No, I'm not show like you to get to the >> I need your help. What are you asking?

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>> And I have information that could help you to be on the right track that you on. You're on the right track. You too, Mr. D. in regards of what you said about them other organization that's not doing I know every one of them that's not doing what they supposed to do. I went

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to them and tried to get help as a ex-offender. They got a program in their office to help F offenders. They're not doing it. I took 10 guys 16 women to them that came from prison that couldn't get no help for various organization in

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this city as well as Atlantic City. And it's impossible for these people to get off the streets when they won't help them when I take them there in need of help. I got one lady in Stanley Holmes and I know that this out your area in

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Stanley Holmes uh apartment complex. I had to go to to Washington DC with this gentleman right here and two other men, only four men. The rest of them were 25 women, 15 children. We went to the congressional building in Washington DC.

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I used to serve them prior to being kidnapped by the system and put in there based upon our nation. Congress Jeff, you know, Jeffrey Van Drew, his office came to Atlantic City,

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saw the conditions. They had no water, no heat. They had holes in the roof. They windows they can't shut them. Their doors they couldn't lock. children, elderly women was in that type of environment and nobody was helping them in Atlantic City. They were doing

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everything they could for everybody else. Atlantic City Standard Homes is the oldest project in this county. >> I was aware of that. >> So now what it is is that I've been doing this by myself by the grace of God. I need anybody help in here that

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would help me to help those that need help. My organization is strengthening family ties, balancing the scales of justice. The sheriff, I went to death, county jail. 20 guys called me, said they needed my legal assistant that was

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in prison with me. I tried to get visit there. They wouldn't give it to me. I even called up uh uh Sheriff Sto and the other sheriff. I can't remember his name, but I I got it in black and white. uh they were supposed to gave me an

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audience. They never gave me an audience as a legal representative in order to help them people to help themselves to do and change their lifestyle and their ways of life. With that note, I just want to air that out because I'm tired of working by myself only me and God.

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>> Thank you, sir. Would anyone else like to speak? >> Thank you. Steve Young, president of National Action Network, South Jersey chapter, and I'm here once again for the last few years trying to get into a public

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facility. Uh, I sent a letter out on June the 8th. I don't know, did you all get it? Because it was addressed to every one of you commissioners. And this regarding the Atlantic County

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Commissioners meeting that that you had in January the 20th, 2026 and again in April of 22nd and concerning the complaints in Atlantic County Justice Facility and the visitation

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and once again our request has been on dying ears. Uh M we had a meeting with Mr. for Durko uh at the uh

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county jail and he was with Mr. Warden Kelly, Captain Stowe, Captain Robertson, Captain Bennett, Sergeant Matlock, and some National Action Network representatives. At the conclusion of the meeting, we again requested a tour

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of the building. Mr. for Durko himself said again stated nothing has changed since our last visit in 2019 before co however several things have changed such as co construction pass staffing

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so again we want to resolve these issues and and it's about transparency our taxpayers money we have a right to know how human beings are being treated So again, we asked him for a tour. We believe this is a public facility and

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not a privatrun ICE detention jail such as Delaney Hall in New York, New Jersey. Therefore, we should be allowed to visit a public facility paid for with public funding. the difference. Elani Hall, a

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privatrun ICE Immigration and Customs Enforcement detention center in Newark, New Jersey, has been the site of intense uh rioting, sometimes violent crashes between protesters and law enforcement. The unrest has has sparked by hunger and

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labor strike launched by ina detainees inside the 10,00 bed facility over alleged inhumane conditions including spoiled food, medical neglect, and physical abuse. We hear the same thing

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in a public facility right down the street. Do we have to protest like they're doing at Delaney Hall? I think not. That's what you for. That's about accountability. need to know who's in charge, who's the turn key so residents can actually visit a place that we're

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paying for where majority of the detainees are there are just being held until they go to court and the court is backed up because of the bail reform. So some of these conditions are unbearable and we just want to go in there and see

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for oursel how we can work together to improve our community because as people come out it affects our communities. Everyone everybody in Atlanta County is be affected by somebody in the county jail because of the way the conditions are there male and female. We know that

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for a fact. So the question is, is the Atlantic County Justice Facility private run by ICE or public facility ran by Atlantic County government? What do the Atlantic County Justice Facility have to to hide from the public and taxpayers?

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So again, I'm asking, we're asking who's in charge to let us visit the place and we want you all to go with us so you can see for ourselves and come up with solutions to if it's about funding and resources.

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Let's try to find it together. But let's we got to justify that it actually exists. We don't want to just see letters and hear from people crying and their loved ones and their mothers and and the grandmothers crying about the conditions at the jail.

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It's been too long. So I we ask you again before I leave here right now, can we find out who's in charge? Is it up to one person to allow us to go into the facility or is this is the commissioner board?

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Can we get an answer to that? Because we got to know who's accountable in order to know where to go from here. But who's in charge of the jail? Who can let us in? Question as a taxpayer, as a resident,

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as a concerned person about human lives. Can we get an answer? >> Thank you for your comment. I'll ask administration. I'm sure they'd like to respond to your accusations. >> So, >> are you finished?

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>> So, do I have to I write a light letter to the administration? I you you deal with thousands and millions of dollars in contracts dealing with the jail. You just did that today. >> You have a certain responsibility and accountability elected officials >> and we are well aware of that.

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>> So, I'm just saying to your your part right now, can we get an answer to visiting? If you're concluded, I'll have administration address it. Okay. >> Thank you very much. >> Thank you. Mr. Chairman, Mr. Vice Chair,

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commissioners, I've had this job for eight years. Mr. Young has been to the jail at least three or four times. I have never told him no, you can't come and talk to us. We just had a

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meeting six weeks ago. But I am not going to allow him to tour the jail. It's not it's not it's a it's a jail. It disrupts the jail. Uh and there's nothing he's going to see. He's been there tw twice already.

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He's had tours twice. It hasn't changed. And it just it's not appropriate to to have the public come in and walk through a jail. So that that's that's my feeling. I mean I I >> public safety issue. He's the public

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safety director. >> Yeah. It's it is a public safety issue because you know people are walking around again. We we let him do it twice but we're not doing it again. We let him walk around looking at everybody. I mean these people are not on display.

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No, >> I'm not going to I'm not going to talk to you. No. >> So, I I I am not going to allow him to tour the jail. >> If he wants a meeting, he can come to the meeting. We had a about an hour and a half meeting with him. He took all

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kinds of notes. We answered all his questions, but he wants a tour and I'm not going to do it. >> All right. Thank you. >> All right. Anyone else like to speak before we close? >> One more time. Chairman,

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>> public safety issue. He's the public safety director. >> Correct. >> Have to rely on his experience and his expertise on this. >> Experience. >> All right. Chair will entertain a motion to close the public portion.

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>> Second. >> Move and second. Any discussion? Hearing none. All in favor say I. >> I. Oppos. This motion carries. The public portion is closed. We're at the good of the order. Does have any anyone have any items for the good of the order?

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>> Chairman Rley, I have one just to announce we have the second public hearing for me the Meadow View auction. >> Yes. >> On Wednesday, June 24th at ACIT at 4 o'clock. >> Very good. >> Thank you.

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>> Very good. All right. Well, >> there be no further comments and a motion to adjurnn is in order. >> Second. >> Second. All in favor say I. I. >> Oppos. Motion carries. This meeting's adjourned.