good evening everyone this is the Air Conservation Commission it's Thursday April 24th 2025 commissioners in attendance this evening we have George as member Jess Guino member clerk Mark Phillips vice
chair Heather Hansen our conservation agent self John Schmullenberger as chair jennai is not with us this evening and we will miss her confirmation of agenda
motion to approve the agenda as written second all in favor say I i oppose nay passes unanimously approval of the meeting minutes for April 10th 2025 everyone has an opportunity to look at the
minutes any changes a question the the font seems to be off like in certain instances like is by design where
like okay so like public input or or uh under like roots comments the font at least on my iPad it looks different [Music] smaller than this
looks normal one to print out maybe it's just my Okay maybe it's just the iPad okay or whatever yeah just looks odd but outside of that nothing these devices have minds of their own they do
is there a motion to approve the meeting minutes for April 10th 2025 as written moved second all in favor say I oppose nay passes unanimously public input if there's anyone seated
that has a question or comment now is the time nope okay seeing none then we will move on the continued public hearing notice of intent uh no D file number yet aaho
development lot number four Pine Street proposed two family dwelling with associated utilities and storm water management management within the buffer zone good evening good evening how are you good thank you how are you well good state your name please for the record
brandon Duchart with David Ross thank you all righty what do we find out so we got the opinion from town council stating that since the re the buffer zone is a resource area the commission is allowed
to grant a waiver um it needs to be presented in writing um I included it in packets this because it came in later so I don't think it came in this afternoon [Applause] so we got a a letter from um Mr did you
for the request for a waiver to the 50oot new do not disturb for the sewer connection i also reached out I didn't include the email in here but I did reach out to DPW um and Matt here and the town engineer stated that that's their preferred uh way to go they don't
want to if gravity is an option they don't it has to be a gravity fed connection and going to that the sewer line that's closest to Grove Pond is the um gravity way anything else would need to pump and then they'd be getting a
waiver from DPW so for that one um so that's where we are as far as the 50 foot no disturb um a resident did who wasn't able to attend the meeting tonight did send comments to me that I forwarded to you guys earlier this week
and to the engineer um to review um their concerns living over on Shel Lane and their concern uh tree clearing level uh they're concerned that the the 50 foot offset is
not accurate due to low level pond um tree amount of excessive tree clearing um stress on the infrastructure they had quite a few comments
the only one um not really that gerine now but where the um 50 foot was determined from edge of the pond versus edges BBW um well edge of the pond and end of BBW
it's not a It's not like So it's pretty much the same regardless of the height of the water regardless of the height of the water correct because it it's not a um like beach type right be similar to some of the houses over on Sandy Pond or Flanigan where
your yard is your yard hasn't flooded for some reason it's that's it can you get that back up oh sorry what are you doing do this and then I'll do this again and then maybe it'll work there we
go no maybe not i don't know i don't know oh it's Thank you i'm trying to print out yes not a bad
thing so have you Here we go have you drawn up a waiver or request a letter y Yep so once we found out that information I prepared a letter request formally requesting the waiver we understand that there's no DP file
number we're going to have to figure at least come in hear your thoughts on on accepting that waiver request right well I'm a big fan of gravity as opposed to
pumping and it's very little I think in the 50 foot no touch if I'm correct is what 3T or less 3 ft yeah y what are your thoughts George yeah I
have no problem with it based on the current location or are you as we requested or at least I requested point with yeah doing the wave yeah we're just keeping the current location yeah
I prefer it to be as close as possible to the property line with that potential that it will be less than 3 ft it might be two feet or you know what I'm saying so that's my only but outside of that waiver
well you just Okay okay particularly with the DPW comments it's a waiver one way or another so yeah what are your thoughts Heather i mean my I mean overall Mike I I I
understand this this uh part of the DPW's connections and a pump would be probably more work could cause more chaos within that 100 foot buffer if anything were to happen to that pump in that house so I understand that aspect of it um it's an existing sewer line u
would I prefer it be there not be there yes can I move it no right i I don't have the authority to do that so as far as that as long as the DPW um is fine with that and the connection to it um it it would be minimal temporary
disturbance anyway it wouldn't be a permanent because that line would be connected and then would have lawn and everything back over it or whatever that would grow over so it wouldn't right it wouldn't be a permanent disturbance because that pipe would just be underground and then the the ground above would just re recede or replant
itself so this is just a connecting pipe to sew existing sewer line already there yeah so the existing line kind of runs obviously below grade but runs through there we just need to tap into that line and make a connection and then as we reference the letter obviously all the
existing grades get restored to pre-existing and then the only other is you know maybe we could do some kind of demarcation um along the 50 in the in that area just to make sure that it is just goes back to a natural
state as opposed to like grass you know what I mean we typically have a um signage that we require to have along the 50 foot notice that states that it's a do not disturb area so we'll have I'm sure when we get to the approval part that'll be part of the approval to have
those sign that signage put up sorry i didn't have it for the big screen today so you're proposing actually making the line a little bit longer Mark to get it the house further back
oh I'm I'm just saying so instead of tying in here John basically to just shift this as much as possible to kind of stick it there you know potentially you can see from here
right against the red versus here it might be literally like right on it that's all just you know what he's talking about yep is that a problem to do that no um and the only thing I would add is I know when we we did the sitewalk there was
one more significant tree there and I'd just say we probably proposed to in a location that would save that tree i would rather save the tree sacrifice a foot but where that is I I'll have to figure it out but if we can get to the other side and save that three
feet there's plenty of pitch to get there so it's not like it's an issue like it's got to be right right at that exact location right we were just doing a kind of a straight shot down right well if you can do it and save the tree that'd be great if you can't save the
tree then I don't know in favor of that um that you're tapping into it's pretty deep it's um the rim's at 223 and the inverts at 217 so six feet six seven feet something like
that probably then maybe ask if there are any other comments in the audience it has to be dug with a back it's not like a directional right okay i just thinking that that is directional
i know a little bit of roots wouldn't be a problem but yeah I think the pipe has to be inspected doesn't it yes the connection yeah yeah the connection would have to be inspected so I think that's why we can't do the directions really
are there any others out there that would like to comment just mention about going too close to the to the um property line is I'm just kind of is that we're I don't want to disturb
the neighbor's property when you're digging the hole gets a little deep that I don't want to get too close to where we're touching any of their dirt on their property that's my only concern is this the neighbor that wrote the letter
yes i would rather be friends with them than enemies gotcha so that's why I would rather be down here cuz I know I have plenty of room to dig it than be up there that's my only concern okay that's a good concern yeah and
that's fair otherwise I everything else is fine with me that was my only thing mhm and how do you spell your last name k E T O L A O L A Yeah any other discussion
so can we vote on this you can vote on the waiver request the waiver right right is there a motion to approve the waiver um at uh what's the address
lot for Pine Street waiver to be able to do you want me to touch into the 50 foot H so should have given this information
before but so per section three of the regulations the board is allowed to grant waivers the waiver is to section two um B2 which is the 50 foot um no disturb zone
i know I should have given all this for the actual waiver request like remembering how they do the ZBA it's right there section three of the regulations allows the waivers to section two
yep 2b number two mhm to be too yep all righty is there a motion to grant a waiver at lot 4 Pine Street under section 2B
2B2 so moved second all in favor say I i nay passes unanimously you're looking at me like I didn't say that right all righty
that's right correct what I say Jess i I always do you always do so we'll have to continue because we don't have a correct um the applicant did submit to the planning board for the storm water management permit due to
town elections the planning board is not meeting until the end of May to May 27th I believe okay so I don't know what we're we would do for our next meeting on this so probably nothing right yeah because we would be looking at waiting to see if
the planning board or DPW have any comments in regards to the storm water system that is proposed on site and the meeting and is there a ling site plan as well or is it just the storm water site plan approval or site plan review and the storm water so so they'll
be doing site plan approval as well due to the amount of lane clearing on site okay so what would be the date of that meeting then so the planning board I believe their meeting is going to be May 27 7th is their next meeting
and that's due to town elections when's that so our meetings would be on the 8th and 22nd so you're looking into June that meeting is June 12th that's immediately after that but you can draft the waiver we just The
waiver is done the waiver will will get put into the into the um into the findings of the special conditions oh okay got it anything else before we continue
i'm sure by then we'll have D comments too okay is there a motion to continue the public hearing notice of intent D file number to be determined i'll development lot four Pine Street until our meeting
on June 12th second all in favor say I post nay passes unanimously it's weird to skip a whole month i know it is but unfortunately the planning board doesn't because of town elections and then we're
on opposite weeks so it just it throws it all out yeah but we should definitely have it should be pretty well ironed out for for our end of it by that y by that meeting okay and when it goes to the planning board I will make sure I let them know that
we're really just waiting for them to open for waiting for them open their hearing and make sure that they have no changes or comments okay sounds good thank you gentlemen thank you very much yeah thanks next item this evening is the continued
discussion 42 Park Street project site changes and remediation so I saw there was a new drawing with some angled parking slots good evening everyone good to see
you all again yes so Justin Clair McCarti Engineering Ali Goldenac owner of 4C Park Street Michael McDonald MGM Properties i will say I apologize for the hat i had a little incision done yesterday so just
covering it up okay all right it's okay i wasn't Nope just honestly didn't even notice it's not kosher to wear a hat for a meeting so I just wanted to make point
out that's all okay so I sent this over on the weekend to Heather this is the angled parking concept i know the commission went out on that beautiful snow day to the sidewalk sadly I was stuck in gardener
in 6 in of snow and crap so you got six inches yeah it was yeah Princeton got nine i had to take the snowblower out i was glad I did not summarize it yet so I was
hoping we got that that amount so I could drain mine using it well so I know a commission went and saw a site saw the limit payment all that uh Ally did tell me that the commission was
looking for a concept that I know at the last meeting we had discussed it potentially doing angled parking so I did put this together just to walk through it real quick the top half is still the same if you want this you can point
Yeah even better oh there is a delay yeah there is a delay it's it's Yeah so this still all stayed the same you still have your landscape island here the first option I did try to do was do entirely angled parking try and turn
everything the way that these two these two here are shown but the issue that we are running into is starting here next to the concrete pad and turning the parking we were running into the light poles that's here
so that went out the window so I'm still showing the 9 by18 parking stalls here as you saw on the other options from there the same thing maintain a little bit of a buffer between the edge of pavement the light pole and then the edge of pavement on
the other side and then here I was able to turn the parking to the angled as shown here which then does eliminate again this hatch would be the pavement that be removed and the red line would be the new edge of pavement
so we don't have to put in any new pavement we don't have So between this option and option one we don't have to put in any new pavement if you remember option one was the four 9x8 parking spaces my only concern as part of this
design with the angled spaces is you're forcing anyone that parks there to go out through the property so if you can imagine you have a vehicle that comes down and pulls into this
spot when they back out they're not going to be able to back out and come this way and then drive out here as you would with the perpendicular ones you're directing them to back out this way and
then their only option is to go out and around the adjacent building to the curb cut at the corner is that an issue with neighbors not necessarily we did grant them easement at the time I closed so there
is an easement there and we have like an unspoken that we can drive out that way because they do come in and out sometimes they'll drive through sometimes I'll drive through um so it's it's it's unspoken i don't foresee it being an issue since we've been doing it
um but it's it's there's nothing in writing yeah it's just something to bring to the commission's attention that who knows 30 years down the road she no longer owns it someone else owns
the art piece and someone gets mad and then there's a potential issue so it logistically works you can still get out the airway it does remove that pavement in the corner again I just wanted to point it out to the commission okay good
to know what's the easement you granted them um basically to come in cross over on the pass a pass and repass okay so they can go through your property yeah and I
would not knowing how it's written up legally I would assume that passive repass would be for both sides that so to your question of is it a major issue i don't believe
so but but not now not definitely not now not today and we all know how people can be sometimes so if it became an issue in 30 years somehow they could still revert to the
option one correct right designed to option one i mean in 30 years the the use of that building could change where the parking for the salon would be different than what use is in there so the parking
space is pretty different or someone buys both pieces of property and it really doesn't become an issue because they own the entire thing so there's a lot of unknowns right again it's just it's solvable yes and it's just again
the parking spaces where it just know that those people will have to exit through the adjacent property so to make it easier yeah cuz they're not going to be able to completely U-turn back around to come
out you'd have to do an Austin Power turn until all spots are in use yes heather were you able to find out about the compact i did yeah that that that answer is a no why it's what I got the answer I got
from the from the um town planner to go for a waiver for anything but it it would be it wouldn't be a feasible to turn some of the spots into compact compact yeah yeah like those two spots that we're having challenge with yeah but I think that's putting a burden on
it's basically passing ours off to another board as well but that was the that was the answer I got yeah and I did take a second read at it and that's why I asked the question i didn't say we're going to make you do this i asked the question that's working
together is it possible can you do this if if they came to you with a request is that possible and the answer was no is that your take on it okay yes the way that it is written in
the bylaws is it's only written as if you have 50 or more spaces anywhere in the town's code the only spot that says compact spaces is if you have 50 or more you're allowed to have a percentage down
to that reduced size which side note is a first for me there's usually a lot of municipalities do give you a flexibility to have some because um because it does
promote LI your low impact design features to have smaller spaces because smaller spaces result in less pavement which results in more green space so it it's it is a widely adopted idea so I
was surprised when I saw that was the only spot it was written in and like Heather said to get that waiver yeah and and and I know the parking regulations is one of the regulations the bylaws that needs to get looked at um it's just it's just hasn't been done at this point
yet um so it's it's yeah unfortunately it's just how it is right now so the two ended spots are full 9 by 18 yeah they meet so they're technically the stripe is longer than 9
by 18 because the way you measure it is perpendicular for your nine and then out to 18 so it still fits a regular car and when they were straight in they were still 9 by 18 when you start turning the
angle the actual line I forget the actual math one of the towns gives it to you but instead of being nine by 18 this way when you turn it it's nine by 20 something angle cuz if you imagine
you're extending that line your angle is too yeah but your two angled spots are zoning compliant so my question was going to be when they're straight yep they're not meeting the 20 ft between the ones against the
building in there correct no we are correct still are we still are both option one and this option give us the night give us the zoning compliant space and give us a 20 foot drive bis okay you want me to pull up the other option
looking at the angle then so at this line at this point touch screens anymore no you can touch it so this point here to this point here you still have your 20 ft correct why are you so far this
come back out such that this line no because you're if you take a line even though it's a 9 by8 angle parking stall you still need to maintain the best way to explain this so
9 by 18 everyone understands perpendicular parking this is 18 wide it's 18 deep is for your car y you still when you park at an angle you still need to maintain 18 ft deep
but you're stretching this line out because now it's an angle okay so it's skewed so that line point to point is longer than 18 ft but you still need to maintain 18 ft of depth when you measure
perpendicular so the way you do it is you come out perpendicular 18 ft and then in this case I started here and I twisted this 18 ft here and then twisted the angle so this is technically longer than 18 ft but if you go 18 ft at an
angled line you're actually less on the perpendicular no I get that so what I'm saying is Oh I guess I was Okay i was looking at this point but your point is here so this is your 18 yes and then you twist
that where's the If you had a Didn't you have a version of this that was where these are straight yes do you want me to pull those ones up yeah if you want to pull up option one that shows I'm not emails that are on here
[Music] yeah which one was option one uh it should be the I think it just said radiation on it yep this one yep okay two spot
make a big So again you're still maintain that dab okay yeah i thought this twospot version was the gray the underlaid gray okay that's what was confusing me this
How did we not gain space by going in yep no no you're I gota angle even designing angle parking sucks it's not fun does it change anything from one or the other um if you have how
much was the grade yeah so what was it it's How much did we gain in the gray hatch only a little bit it's essentially the same because you're moving point A up and point B down yeah you're just where you where you end up angling this
you're cutting this out but but you're going to eat it at the other yes yeah so you can see that one yeah it's that's four someone looking at
In simple terms between option one and four you're splitting hairs on where you're going to take out the pavement and where you're going to keep pavement but the main difference is that you're forcing people to go on the main difference is someone else's property
who may not always love you yes so or I mean it could be anything too it could be in the middle of winter they don't plow their parking lot and then you force people like something as simple as that too or that might be where they put their snow oh yeah
that's that's probably a more practic I would hope not to but you can again we all know how people are sometimes so it's and I get it that the commission
wanted to see it because it is much easier to see it on a plan and be able to visualize what it looks like instead of sitting here talking about it and saying yeah it could save you some here but
it's I was really counting on the comp two compact spaces i thought that was extremely and and I completely agree if if it's compact if we were allowed to do the compact spaces cuz then you could do the parallel i would do the gain all that yeah I would do compact spaces for those
two spots and we'd be done right so and if it was when this project was first proposed that may have been more of enable to be an option instead of going through and trying to fix something where it's more or less like and the and again going back to the way
the bylaw is written is it doesn't give you the leeway to the parking go for the for that request on well I want to do all these but can we make these two compact there's nothing there that gives it to you
yeah so with that I know overall the commission was satisfied with one of the options that we were going to do for the remediation what we would like I know
we're missing one commissioner uh tonight that if we can get a final decision on option one or two three or four it doesn't matter just so we can get the contractor going
because we are eating into the TCO window um I know did you have a chance to talk the building not yet i was at work this week so it's a reasonable request to extend the window for the TCO
but we would like to be able to go to them and say "Look can we have an extension on the TCO conservation Commission wants us to go with option X and then when could you realistically try?"
No I mean we're we're holding holding back the wolves knowing that we have to do this yeah so Sorry i was going to say don't stress around no I mean as soon as possible he could get in there and start the work so at
least there's progress be going for you guys and then building ideally would feel comfortable extend TCO knowing that the work is being started to remediate the issue so I and again if that's
something that the commission wants to have the full all the members put their input in to decide one if it's something that could be done offline and Heather can email myself and Ally and say
commission wants you to go with option X fantastic so but we we do appreciate that the commission is open to the options in front of them and I know at this point
it's again splitting hairs on what the commission would prefer but at least like I said we're we do appreciate that you're open-minded to it i like to see What are your thoughts on the angled parking
it wasn't as I was hoping y um I'm trying to understand what's going on here though now um so this was kind of a walk up there's stairs and all kind of stuff so this is going to be landscape and then whoever wants to go up this has
to come through this parking spot is there actually space for that yeah there's the 9 by8 is your standard space your car is typically 7 8 ft so there's a little bit of space the landscaping wouldn't be anything robust so it would
be and the landing's already there so it's just getting to the land and No that's what I'm saying i remember that being there yeah seems I don't just maybe that's a little concern and maybe you should bring this back a little bit just to kind of create a little bit of a walkway maybe I don't
know and this is this is this 9 ft here yes much bigger back here so where we can square that off and gain a little bit more well that'd be great so the problem is you do it i think we'd have to actually strike
that out the problem is you start doing that you start skewing all we're going to run into the same thing right you try to maintain Yeah it's just that that first space in between the two islands it's a lot wider definitely up high it's
not square because all well so it's back so that's back perpendicular because that's the other thing you got to have these these are parallel perpend these are perpendicular spaces so it's from the point perpendicular back if you
go cuz the way that that pavement is it's not a straight line so if you go nine nine feet and nine feet it's going to be skewed it's going to technically be less than 9 feet perpendicular point to point so
you mean do you mean 18 from point to point no 9 ft width so you're saying from this red line to where this red line will eventually be a curve is 9 ft well you're on So you're on a curve right there if you picture
this this is your curve right okay so we start here we're here back perpendicular that's 9 by 18 9 by 18 9 ft here is out here 9 ft back here is actually in tight so you end up with
pinch point less than 9 ft because you're you're sitting on because you curve okay yes so in order to get the opening at 9 ft it curves out wider at the end yes because of the curve there yes anytime you work with parking lot curve you end up with reverse pie
you maintain 9 ft at the tightest point and then you're a couple feet wider at the end because you're trying to hit a perpendicular spot to a perpendicular spot okay so that so you're not running looking at the back of it to the edge of
pavement and saying that looks a little bit wider than at the drive aisle cuz it is and that's why you you're still But now here though we're going to have
that two to one slope just bump that out no because then at the midpoint you're going to be less than 9 ft or it just it just doesn't make sense on flat paper is what I'm saying yes that's the issue so bring the point or
or I come back perpendicular and I eat more payment on that side to get back right i can maintain from here perpendicular offset nine offset nine and now I'm meeting a little bit of
this it trying to picture a curve on paper flat piece of paper yeah it's a flat earth issue so that's so that's the big okay thing and I think
at that point it's and even if it wasn't you're talking about a foot we're we're talking a couple feet at most where it's Yeah again if it was a 10 foot difference then yes we would want modify it but it's only a couple feet at the
back of the parking space in regards to the this area that was talking about when we redo the landscaping on that we could do grass in front of it well I would say do grass i would just because
everything's mulch i hate mold um do like pavers like stepping stones through here well why don't we do and then that way we're not forcing people to walk around cars and they we just have pavers through here and the rest of it landscaped i think that would settle that issue as long as it can be
maintained or whatever why don't we just do perable pavers i like separate tones i don't Yeah just something that we So something in that landscape area that basically promotes you walk a path through it and that fixes that area because if we if we end
up if you do like paper pavers I mean we're going towards impervious we're trying to stay away from we do something but I'm just saying like it what's going to happen is if you don't put anything there people are going to walk through well they kill the grass right yeah so you just better to make it like no here walk here otherwise he could luck yeah
and people are still going to walk where they walk but at least we'll have the designated path but yeah we could ideally you would just come straight off of that i mean I went to Ammerst i mean I can't take a little while oh nice they I mean they spent hundreds of thousands of dollars putting in beautiful walkways
and what do people do walk across grass oh yeah well when you go by the pond those ducks are vicious so yes we could definitely as part of the landscaping of that island we could grass shrubs we can do some like you said permeable pavers around that
landing yeah I would just do that suggestion on that one um because that would help that situation because I think otherwise you're going to one people who don't want to park in that space because of that walkway or two people that are walking there and complain about something so to have that designated walk or they'll cut through
the landscaped area which is kind of dangerous in the winter time too if it's snowed and you don't want to be walking through an already smaller parking area in the surround
so the back of those two spots there will be a curb along the back side of Yes this whole thing will be curved yep and so then where will those drain do they go around to that D way up at the top there everything drains to here yep thank you yep
everything's going to as part of this this will have to get shimmed and pitched a little bit but everything's going to get back to these two catch basins okay and then it'll go into the underground system yep and that was the original plan
everything and that was the original plan anyway everything was to be curved and conveyed back to those structures i guess at the moment I'm most comfortable with this i don't know what the rest of these two spots
option one as opposed to the angle yeah because the angle too much at least I'm looking out for planning not so much the other way around um I guess then the next thing would be
the all the stones that were placed so Yep so I I think at the last meeting we had tal You're talking up at the top of the page no I'm talking the stuff oh yep sorry yep those ones again those aren't So at the last
meeting we had talked about those at the those aren't set in the ground so if the commission wants those to find a new home they'll find a new home i'll make them look good or if they want them to look good they
can they can look good if you just want to like take them out from the you know outside of the buffer area throw them towards the front if you want i mean cuz Yeah there you go no I mean seriously I would don't take them off the site and if you do I'm stealing them but I would say No
seriously we need as many as we can get but if you um I would just pull them and bring them to the front cuz like you said where we had to change and bring the parking lot out anyways i mean it's just it's going to help that great change yeah yeah so where are they being moved to the buffer this area yep
and into here i was really delayed but yeah where we had the bump out for the pavement we could he could line them there did you want to take a look at the other options just to see them again or I know
the third option is the one they added more pavement which so option just to reiterate to the two and three two and three added pavement uh option two was the two perpendicular spaces two parallel spaces we were asking for about
35 square feet to square off the last parallel space mhm and then option three was a variation of this one where we would have a bigger we would have grass between the
Yeah the dumpster pad and the light pole and we'd have the four spaces on the other side but that equated to about 65 square ft of more pavement closer to the drainage swale there so I think if I remember right the
commission entertained option two with the parallel but didn't like the idea that we had to add a little bit of pavement so that's pretty much the synopsis for those two options my one suggestion um is
reviewing the landscape plan and possibly if we could as a request for going for one of these options it maybe beef it up a little bit more if we if they're able to to add more native plantings or something in there within that buffer area on the edge of the
slope i think that's we can take a look at what the wonderful architect had proposed and it was a lot was it already a lot to the like we I can take a look at it again because I think my office has it over to me and I was kind of looking
it over but my only concern is that if we start choking out the buffer where we have too much yeah i'm just wondering what we can do to help reatify I mean be beyond moving of pain but the existing extra that's in there what we can do to
help ratify something else on that site you can only push things so far i know i can hope though we We can definitely take a look at it and see if there's things we can twe or something that can be planted that
weren't there before yeah but I remember looking at it briefly just because it wasn't in my scope and I was like "Okay but if you've looked at it more and it's Yeah a lot we we don't
want to he's already proposing a lot we don't want to add more cuz Yeah no I you just end up killing everything yeah so maybe it's a matter of switching out something for even more trees along that slope to try to shade the parking lot from even doing like a sky or type of
thing and then and in in regards to switching out a couple trees we're losing a few shrubs but I I prefer to have two or three large trees eventually grow up on that site than 12 shrubs what if we did um what if we switched out did like a nice canopy tree like a a cre pair or an admiral something that
honestly it would help screen that spur in the back yeah interesting is something maybe we can do to try to help with the extra pavement out there try to help ratify the the heat that's going to come off of that with a tree or two or something take a look at that and honestly I just aesthetically I think
that would be nice what kind of tree did you see like a Cleveland pair or some native tree if you went to dog woods make sure it's a native dogwood i just I know in in other conservation meetings like they have suggested Cleveland okay yeah and is it just I I
know this some of the dog woods end up being um Wland trees anyway too so like that might be helpful but yeah anything that you could think that could just help with that aspect of it that might be helpful yeah I think it would help too because looking at Nick had messaged me that some of the selections were very
expensive yes dear no they Well they were expensive but I mean it just there were there weren't even suitable replacements like we were looking at some of the other Yeah the first round we went through I I pointed out that every single species that was put on there was non-native right and and it was like we
need to change that right like we were talking to our supplier and they're like like they sent us the cat like "Well you find something." I'm like "You find something." So So yeah if we could just if we could do that in there and try to offset some of the heat coming off the pavement I think that would be be helpful
what are your thoughts Jess um yeah I think these are all good suggestions i probably would favor option one also just not to kick the can down the road to future problems which George yeah I don't see any difference
between one and three from conservation point so one one and four one and four and uh so whatever they want as far as a stone wall goes I have no problem with it I mean under the state regulations stone walls are minor
activities and allowed so and stonewall would provide more habitat for small critters it would it actually would you're correct stone walls do create habitat shelter
the hawk stone pile how about you Mark yeah like good with this one yeah I like the idea of not forcing people to to drive in a
certain way that may or may not always be open to them and as far as a stone wall I don't really I don't care that much it's already there it's going to disturb things getting them out moving them but as long as it doesn't impact
any of the the landscaping or anything that will go on that side of the line around it I'll make it look beautiful no I mean honestly too it helps with you know in the event you have a 100redyear flood a massive runoff yeah I know look at that slope like Yeah it probably be
helpful to have that rock yeah yeah like I said especially if you're going to have mulch and like you said you have a heavy rain just looking where it is in some of the plantings that you're talking about maybe a middle ground move some of them up to where the bump out is and keep
some move some of them out and move it around and yeah I think that's we meet in the middle on that and then incorporate them as heartscape features into the Yeah like I said make it Yeah like I said I'll make it make it
look natural i happen to be This was my former supervisor um so I have it down in writing that you have promised to make it look beautiful absolutely and if it doesn't you're being recorded too if it doesn't you it's on YouTube and
it's Yes yes it's kind of an eye opener to be there on a snowy day because that's that could be you're going to have to keep on that one it's in the winter time oh yeah yes yep definitely and that was mentioned we
talked about that multiple times at Planet Board yeah as well and it was like yes it that will be upkept because as soon as you fall behind that site is going to removal too
sorry oh no I know yeah and we and we did talk about that with the planning board that there is going to have to be times where there's snow removal where the contractor will have to come in and because you're only going to be able to push so much on the back of that site
anyway so it will have to be maintained just for the logistics so it was pretty much down next to the dumpster pad that's the dumpster pad which is now pavement yeah so Where would you put it now that was the furthest point away from the buffer so
anything else now would be closer you You can put it to the like lower left of the dumpster pad now so actually lower left between dumpster pad and the block wall yeah so what over like Oh dear again I hate this delay like over here
right in there here okay yep i just say because anything else unless it was untreat as long as it was untreated can be pushed once soon as you put sand on you can't well then and then you could do conditions on treating materials too I I I don't I don't know if we typically do yeah I believe there's
no salt allowed it has to be like a yeah I believe both consom and planning we've been we've been favoring that and I I do remember that in planning because one of the I believe
the vice chair it was Ken Ken was very and we're and I'm like whatever you want regarding that cuz that was also part of the storm water permit there trying to make make sure we did not do anything additional to the
storm water okay anything else so we all agree Plan one we have to take a vote i would take a vote take a vote
okay any more discussion before we move on okay we Is there a motion to approve it's just called plan one option one option
one for uh 42 Park Street as a uh site change remediation uh yeah to approve second all in favor say I i post nay passes unanimously
before the work starts um I'll just double check the version control yes yeah we already talked about that yep i know that the fence has to get put back in a couple spots too perfect how are things going with the uh the setup good she uh I don't know if you guys follow
on if you guys on Facebook but if you follow her Facebook page or her Instagram page she posted like the reactions of her clients walking into the salon so it was they love it it was awesome so you're up and running good yes nice up and running my wife is
actually one of the clients there so she went last this past weekend yeah last Saturday brought brown knees for the girls and she's like "Oh my god." So apparently it's going really well i haven't seen it since it was bare so I'm
going have to You have to come on the inside get your beard done yes i'll have I'll have Lily do it perfect get your beard i saw you switch from a haircut [Laughter] she was thinking about it so awesome
thank you guys so much all righty no cookies it's not It's not every time it's You got lucky last time yeah if any of you guys need hair services they're open all right lesson less do you do that yourself or do you have a stylist for
your No I do that yeah looks real good in the morning when I wake up too let me tell you have a good night have a good night good night [Applause] all righty review and approve RFP for
conservation restriction baseline documentation i apologize i don't have compreh was it with applicant yeah like right at the very beginning I think um Jess you had put in there what was it firm firm or something
firm or individual and I'm just thinking just I was adjusting the language you borrowed from borrowed from change it just to say applicant applicant yeah so I I can I can make that change and I just got to change the the dates on it obviously approval which is why I had it highlighted go through and change the
dates I had to I might to put a line in there that if the work's not you complet yeah yeah and then the only other thing was the qualifications i think you had like three years
within that last or I I can't I can't find which email it was though it was something about three years mhm uh three years experience i've got it right here yeah thank you i apologize at the
very end there was some bullets right um apologies yeah a statement affirming the This was also redone from the stove statement affirming the number of years that the proposer applicant Yeah has
compiled baseline documentation materials along with a sample of a successfully completed BDR um a list of projects with similar scopes of work over the past three years should also be provided is that is that where I'm
picking up the three years where where did it talk about the experience uh wasn't there something else maybe up in the in the paragraphs about experience instructions project scope no I was it that's it was that it okay
it was getting late i could have been dozing okay I'm good then so when are you going to ask for submissions due by so if I get this out I'm not hopefully hopeful how tomorrow
it's going to go depending on how my son is when they get home so we'll say we'll get it out Monday to at least try to get it to three different firms hopefully have it back by I'm It's not a big site we have the CR i
want to two weeks and hope I get it back something back do we have to vote on approving the contract yes so hopefully if we can get it back before the next meeting so we can vote on the contract um with the maybe there'll be more going forward so we don't have to
send it out again um because I think we I'll have more on the agent update on that um so I I'll try to have them back so we can vote on at the next meeting if I can get it out if I can get it out by tomorrow Monday it should be fine get back by our next meeting is next meeting
would be 8th the eth should be okay and then that way they can they should be able to get it done uh it's only like five acre site they should be able to get it done before the end and build us before the end of June
one would hope fingers crossed try to use up some of the money in the budget if not I'm sure there's there's I'm sure there's stuff in there for next year just remember that town meeting on Monday that we may not
so I'm good with it and I do have that note to to look for proposer firm or individual and change it to applicant yeah I don't know i think it's just more more convoluted the other way
i think that's a hill I want to die on oh okay no that's totally fine anyone else have any thoughts yay or nay
okay looks good okay updates updates updates all right so um 135 Oakidge Drive and right now the sister's nap's not working so I have to explain it to you the gentleman that has bought that house I do have a mortgage
plan you guys can pass around to look at he would like to use the existing grade and and how the site looks and just make it pretty so um he he already kind of got
permission for myself to take some trees down now he's looking at just fixing up the shoreline and doing some landscaping out there i asked him today when he dropped it off to me if he would have to do any sort of um bring any fill in or do any grading he said he wants to work with what's existing out there now if
any dirt's being brought in it would really just be like top soil in order to do the planting um looking at fixing up the stairs but he wouldn't be doing anything to change where the stairs are they'll just be making them
functional um is this a dock yes there's a dock on that property this is on So this is Oakidge so it's on Flag i can find it on Fletchers and Fletchers i found one map said Ericson's so it's whatever you want
to call Oh yeah whatever you want to call it um So it's this this this site right here so it already has all these steps and everything there um on site so he just wants to and it has a retaining and it has a retaining wall at the top so he
just wants to just bring just do landscaping out there he he did go through and did some uh cleaning up said he pulled a whole trailer worth of junk out between tires and scrap metal along the shoreline yeah yeah so I just was just wondering if we thought it would
just be an RDA coming forward since it's basically more or less just landscaping that he's doing there or if we thought a full notice of intent would be required what's What's it look like now when I went out and saw it it was winter time i mean is it is it vegetated it was it
it's vegetated it just needs to be cleaned up and made not it's was un it was unmaintained vegetation and he wants to make a like a do plantings in there and make it look good so it was no there's going to be no
grading there's going to be no if he said anything any fill had to be brought in he said just more or less just be um top soil whatever potting soil whatever to do the planting actually and he doesn't want to do any major work use the existing grades that are out there and just plant and redo the stairs and
the stairs are going from the retainer on down to the dock yep and this the stairs are in the picture basically between the 100 and the dock yep okay yep under the property is it a pretty dock uh you know again I
saw it in the winter time i don't even know what did the stairs look like this He sent me a picture and I mistakenly left it on I have it on my work phone and I mistakenly left it at home when I left the house so I can forward I I can I can send it to you guys in an email tomorrow
on what what he's looking at doing there it's a basically he found a picture on Pinterest it's like this is what I want to do it's not going to be exact it has to work with what he has out there but it's more or less I think wooden stairs wooden stairs yeah they were like deck type stairs going down it wasn't even
like concrete steps when we did um stand my neighbors um Mountain View he was redoing the stone steps we did that under an RDA oh you mean at the right at the end of Mountain View Mountain the stairs
because they're existing stairs there he's just refixing what's there it's not installing a new set of stairs he's gonna I think that would be minimal work but I'm not he'll present to you a list of plantings that he's Yeah he'll he'll put all that in the RDA when it
come I'll make sure all that is included in the RDA when he brings it in or if he needs help pecking plantings I have those books in my office he can borrow for native plants for shrubs and ground cover what's that what's the the number 135
Oakidge okay the gentleman just bought it over this past um winter he's been fixing it up has an existing walk out uh basement that he's refinished is the the landscaping that's in
basement um I'm sure some of it is I'm sure I'm sure there's some non-native stuff in there uh and again it was he says it's been all overgrown he just wants to make it look more um manicured in landscape but have it planted and
look nice and he would still have a sort of vegetated buffer he'll have a vegetative buffer because it'll all be vegeting so planting within the buffer is is is a non-exempt um project it's just because the closest
to the water and the staircase and stuff going in you would do the RD but you can do planting the buffers and not exempt under the act right right as long as they're native yeah i mean it'll have to yeah but we we will make that request
that um majority of them be native bring a list of what he's doing he can review everything yeah we can we can ask give us a list as part as part of the RDA i can email him with that let him know if he can just give us a list of some of the plants he's thinking of putting there or if he needs help
picking some native ones I can give him some doesn't really seem like I'm in a know why worthy okay i just I just I always just like to ask um so I will email that tomorrow um I
went out to the substation at National Grid today um they going tomorrow yeah oh there you go um they are doing um they are going to need to do uh dewatering in order to put the the the gra the expansion in in the new fence
line um and as part of the special order conditions a prior written approval by the commission is needed for um dewatering so I went out to the site to see where the deatering location will be where the pump with the hoses are going
to go and the sandbags that will be in the wetland because obviously they're filling the wetland um for that project so I went out and saw that so now it's a matter of because it it does state in the in the in the special conditions that it's written approval from the
commission not the agent so I don't know if we need to do I don't know if you've done this before you do some sort of vote to allow it or if I can just write a letter on your behalf and then use your signature stamp for it to say it's fine i guess I did went and looked at it
they're not going to start um until sometime next week on it they said it will probably be a few weeks of pumping in order to get the it out so we can put the roadway in and then be done on that so it'll be for a couple weeks that they'll be doing dewatering so you went out and looked at it you're
good i did yep yep the the dewatering location is outside the buffer zone um they do have erosion controls installed the generator will be electric it'll be in the in in the substation itself um yeah I said all the erosion controls are
in so and I did tell them once we got the approvals that once they start the deatering that I will want to go out and look at it just to see it working making sure everything's fine i'm okay with you doing it okay okay okay um let's see what else is going on
uh what did I'm sorry did National Grid send you something in writing though a request for it in writing they sent me an email yes okay all right i might have a letter okay might have a PDF with everything they're doing on it i can forward that off to
you guys no I'm just just the whole idea of a a written approval yeah should be based off of Yeah they did send me something request um Robert uh Robert myself and Faith Saunter from North County Land Trust had a meeting this week to discuss the
conservation restrictions monitoring and everything uh yes so that went well um I did update our conservation restrictions list of items that need to be done um and sent that off to Faith she was
going to discuss with her group to see what their capabilities might be i stated since Shaker Mill Pond is now um basically as far as I know before the state for final approval and then be recorded that monitoring on that since the baseline was done over a year ago
that that monitoring can can start once we figure everything out as far as a contract with that goes um and then um so we're just looking at North County to do the monitoring no we're waiting to see I sent her the list of everything we
have so I said that if if they have the capability to do baseline reports I have project baselines but if not with the RFP that we're doing for Curly Circle we could possibly extend that to some of the other options and they'll be looking at just doing your monitoring we also
have several that do not have CRS on on property if that's something the work that they can do and in digging and researching some of these um some of them are required to have CRs but from the way that I read how it was taken to the town they are actually owned by the conservation commission so we cannot
hold the CR it would have to be a separate entity and one of those include um Pine Meadow and the Tuker property so we can't hold the CRS because we're the owner of the property so that would be something where then they would we'd have see if they would be the ones that
would hold the CR for us and then since they're holding the CR they would still do the monitoring on that as well so um so she's gonna look through that list that I I prepared and and talk with her group to see what what it all is possible that they could do for us and we'll we'll reconvene on that one
so more to come on CRS we're working hard i did email two again um Roheit on his one for Air Solar 2 and forwarded the one that I the draft I did have along with the draft I had for
Panther Place to the town manager's office to for town council to review because the draft I have seemed like it was reviewed from the state and their council it was just for ours to do so that way if anything were to come back I know that all the parties have reviewed
it once and then we're just waiting for the state to or whoever to verify it from there so more to come and see ours every eight months or so we Faith Salter is now part of she works for North County she's now the executive director of North County management
she's the executive director so chances are good something's going to chances are are good that we can hopefully get at least something done and like I said um with once we get the baseline done for curly circle that one will just need to be monitored shaker
milk palm will just need to be monitored i think we have one other one that's all in place that just needs to be monitored as far as the rules and regulations go on as far as I'm not 100% sure on them because we do have some that have baselines that may or may not be able to
be used for then due to monitoring so I have that information in that list that I sent her that baseline was done in 2016 or in 2007 like does it need to be redone can we just monitor from that and and verifying those so we have four or five that we more or less once we figure
that aspect out of it that we could just start monitoring on checking some place col is one of them yep is that all finalized i believe so i believe that was some snafu before with getting a signature whatever no that I have the CR
all done i I I think I I have it in my first list that I did that I had the the baseline all done just whether or not it was recorded or not so I think it's just verifying if if that's something that has to be recorded or if it should be revisited before we start the monitoring part and and that's what the questions I
have on a couple of them that I I have found a baseline but whether if it needs to be recorded to be official or if we should be redoing them and then move from there so I have a couple of those that one a place i think Orion Park is one of them and is another one that we're just just minor little things like
that so hopefully we can check some of them off the list hopefully is Anna Wilkins is that Wilkins yes she's still part of She's just Yeah she's still part of that um Emily I think some of the Emily something she's still part of it but yeah Faith is now as a president we
can hopefully get her to more active you have a little We have a little and she's on my sustainability that's good i'm glad to hear that yes so hopefully hopefully that works out well hopefully I can give you guys an
ups because that money is still there for Robert said that that 10,000 for that contract is still available that we can do that moving forward so there's there's no issue with that um I said the sustainability committee was appointed by the select board um at their last
meeting along with um you three town residents that are on there along with members of the existing town departments um also at that meeting a town uh ban on second generation rodend size was passed policy for all town
property second generation I'm sorry sides the antiendic sides the scars um so there's a now a town policy um signed by the select board at their last meeting that um they cannot be used on town property so they'll be removing all
those from the DPW from the the transport station the um wherever else they use the fire station police wherever those are no longer allowed on town property okay that's a major win on that one that's a good stuff right there yeah so it's it's a small step we'll get we'll get going and hopefully try to
expand it to townwide but we have it on town property um and it's there's still a bill before the state on that as well that hasn't moved anywhere um a few years yeah town meeting is Monday yep is it going
to town meeting we do have the one W article for our pond treatment um the a massive amount of money massive amount of money is it 20,000 um the planting days for the pocket forest are May 3rd and May 10th
forgive me if I can't remember the days at the times but it is on the flyers it's on the town website i said there I pass out flyers to various businesses in town are they actually planting on both days or is it like prepping planting on both days okay um yep planting on both
whether we need to plant on both days or one day we're planting and one day we're doing some maintenance if it's both days are going to be at the Sandy Pond school um if we have to at one point move from Sensei from Sandy Pond School to the high school we'll do that but for right
now they're both 10th and third um and then there'll be other days for the high school i believe their hope is to have the high school planted themselves during some of their um volunteer hours that the school
requires that all seniors do that we can do it that way and during school hours are they going to drop off barrels for watering things they so the at the school they're at the high school they're going to have um a spigot
from the high school itself I believe with a meter on it you know device with selfwatering uh timer on that i don't remember what they're doing at the at the Sandy Pond school if they have water in their building if they're going to do the same thing with the spot outside of
that building or if we're going to get a meter off of one of the hydrants i don't know what the plan is for watering there yeah I got to get the rainbow bells out from over there um no no I mean like they should literally ask a question
we're watering those but I'm sure sure they have a plan for that i'm just sharing the planting days we get to all different kinds of shrubs and plants and flowers and whatever trees yeah
and then um next Thursday I will be going to a the what's it called mainstreaming naturebased solutions econference done by mass econ say that again did you say
mainstreaming mainstreaming naturebased solutions um yep it's a mass ean conference mass what ean ecan ecan yeah I think I'm sure spell that e C
an I'm sure it stands for something is that online or you going physically it's physically at Clark University physically physically yep um so that'll be fun and on May 16th um the Nasher River
Wershed Associate the Council is holding a invasive management workshop on that Friday and you and I were invited i accepted it on your behalf thank you you're invited to a Say it again uh invasive spec an
invasive management workshop and where where is that at the um Nasher Watershed Association um on 119 in GR mhm what day may 16th may 16th h
could you send me a find her email mhm i sure will multiple times yeah if you if you for some reason you can't for some reason you can't make it I will be there and I will learn all about invasive species management oh speaking of that the gentleman that
lives at 42 Cambridge Street I went there today he needs to have trees taken down due to his insurance company telling him that they are hazardous and he has to and so he he does want to replant um I'm going to give him some of my books to
look at when he's ready for that he does have notweed on his property was telling me he was spraying it and I said "Well if you want to replant I would stop spraying it because those pesticides will stay theides will stay in the ground and you won't be able to
replant." So he is stopping that aspect of it from going to hand pull it and they will they the tree company will leave stumps there to keep the because it's it's it's a rocky slopey section between two houses so to try to help keep this land
maintained for us to have a trunk for bugs and birds they will leave trunks there but there's about four trees that got to come out but it's just a intermittent stream that runs all the way up from Norwood A down all the way down here to Central A that stream there so it's it's that
stream that ends up being his house that part of the house about 75 ft away from him that's it is that it for your updates mhm anyone else
couple please um one is anybody doing anything on the water chestnuts i don't know pace is We do have PACE um so if you do email them they do have a thing i don't know if they have any
plans for water chestnuts this year because I don't know if there is if it just if they're in a maintenance mode right now i will have to check on that for you lori Lori has stepped down um woman
named by Christine Goule she's um the one I've been talking to in regards to PACE she's on the same building as me um I can reach out to her in regards to anything going on with her chestnuts this year that was an amazing success story it was
i mean I think more so than they ever imagined having it be two years in and going "Oh wow." Um yeah so it's amazing what you can do i'm not going to get there with the notweed but you know we try we try
and then um I went to the planning board meeting on Tuesday where they were discussing Oh yes Lincoln Lincoln Hills lincoln Hills i do have to to send comments to the second um so they were talking about the open
space and I guess they they have to have they reached out to town council about the narrow strip which I guess they counted as part of the open space it's a rightway but it's a driveway right ofway for the landlock property and um you
know I think a lot of people think that shouldn't have been counted as part of the open space percentage it's a it's a tricky tricky situation in regards to what is open space i have just for
giggles since that meeting been trying to find a definition of open space oh there is not there is not on the state it's not there i checked the open I checked the open space space act regulations there's not an open space i checked
article 97 there's there's but there's a different article chapter 3 um mass general law chapter 3 section where something in there that says o open space residential development a residential development in
which this is from the state MGO that is so that's that is that the um OSRD OSRD draft bylaw um no it's MGL and the definitions all right I I will I will pull that one up then because I this is Oh I'm sharing with with with
Danny because this is part of their part this isn't so this is the OSRD part of the state yeah it's in their definition section okay and um because I I searched and searched and searched i did find something in our open space and
recreation plan yeah but this is in um and I I did this doesn't have my I'll get you the site in a second okay yeah you just want to give me the the MGL say open land may be situated to protect but no don't worry about that the open land shall either be conveyed to the city or
town and accepted by said city or town for park or open space use or be made subject to a recorded use restriction enforceable by said city or town or nonprofit um organization the principal purpose of
which is the conservation of open space providing that such land shall be kept in an open or natural state and not be built for residential use or developed for accessory uses okay such as parking or roadway so well and again in that
aspect of it they they can't pass a uh definition that says that because they allowed it for Stratton Hill yeah um well I'll have to figure it out but um anyway the uh
uh where is it section 1A of chapter 4A chapter what chapter 4A max chapter 4A section 1A definitions so yeah chapter 48 subdivision control um but
um but on zoning board we always operate in the premise of what a decision on one thing is not guaranteed the same decision yes no I No I understand that but I I'll I'll look that up thank you i uh reiterated oh so they are
planning the easement for water sewer and um there's a debate about how much land disturbance the engineer seems to think it'd be minimal land disturbance but they have to go down quite deep and probably do blasting with the ledge
there to get the death um anyway that there you know there's debate about whether that should be count as the open space because it's very disturbed yeah and I would say the positive thing is board members feel that same way and I'm for this I'm for aspects of this
development we do need more housing and more varied housing but my my point and I had to speak as a resident not as a member of the commission was that um that my point is basically what what was the intent of open space when residents
voted on the open space residential bylaw was it to be you know because the intent of the bylaw it states at the beginning you know partly the preservation of habitat and if they're going to be you know disturbing and then
I mean that to me is against the intent so I hope they Yeah we we have the second re set of second revision to the plans are on the website um I still have the concern which was brought up I think by Ken of the narrow strip of open space
between the lots on Central Lab and this one which was when my comments the first time um and they the only thing part of the address it was it's not a tea so it's not snow could be pushed there it's just all houses it's still going to be a concern
but um yes I'm still going to go to those um and then somebody reminded me uh that the our commission did issue an order of conditions back in 2011 when this was Emily's
way that we did have some jurisdictional issues i'll have to the old ones did you have them do you have the DP number yeah it is so I was looking at the minutes today 100-0345 okay but what I think is the issue is
the at the time there was concern about storm water going across groten Harvard road to um 3335 Grten Harvard road which Maryanne Depinto who used to be Mass D was jurisdictional wetland but but
that was when Emily's way was all building on the hairball time um that was when Emily's Way was all building on the side close to Gen Harbor Road and not up on and this now it's high street so we did
issue one it was largely based on storm water okay well I'll still pull it out and see what it says um and uh I don't know if you can and if it's still open I'll reach out to the fields and have them close it um those pesky things just hang out
and so you can look at uh I just circled um took a picture of this oh you don't those meeting minutes oh so instead of looking for Well I mean I can look i try to find meeting minutes
of 2009 to figure out Yeah how we voted on something for a CR and they didn't exist that whole year if you can read my handwriting just look for the circle dates okay there's some in 2010 when we did a enough movie what are
these years um oh these are all 2011 okay 2011 and then I thought that's what I thought just 10 11 11 got it 101 okay got it thank you i will do that okay and that's it for me okay
were you on the commission oh yeah he's been here longer than Forever pretty much pretty much and you'll find that the minutes detailing those are actually fairly detailed because we had a great clerk you can follow what was discussed no
that that's what I try to do when I do it okay anyway wrote it down thank you i will I will I appreciate that yeah anyone else have any updates
just a couple things actually came up just because of our discussion we just talked about we've always had boulders placed where we say no disturbance right should we have him take those and move
those basically at the back edge of the whole parking lot essentially we just do that i mean at the tow slope have the rocks put there yeah because we were they were going to be putting signs up yeah yeah they were I think again they were going
to the same thing you know kind of Yeah locking off i mean that way they're not moving them tremendous addition yeah i mean we could do that if that's something you'd want to see well I'm just I don't What does everybody else think it's a good barrier i think I think having him there is a
good barrier for sort of wash out some of them there yeah see what Mr mcduff see he seems to have a good sense yeah he's Yeah okay um and then going back to the waiver for a
just as you mentioned planning board or something said not precedent setting can we make sure that that is put in their waiver somewhere mhm that this by no means means that other people can start asking for waivers
that would be I think a good thing to state in there somehow yeah and then speaking of that when we were out on site I don't know if you're done i apologize there was concern that oh 50 feet looks a lot closer than we imagined um if you
wished um I do know the town of Actton does have a staged um buffer where it's a so I think they might have a 50 foot no disturb and then from 50 to 75 it's basically no structures and then it goes
is that way if that's something you want me to try to research and draft up to maybe alter our our regulations we can start discussing that maybe at the next meeting mean we can we'd have to hold a public hearing yeah we can start looking at them just to get an idea of um what it
might look like and then we obviously hold the public hearing but we can start looking at what we might like to see i can get a couple options together because I don't think we have any as it stands right now we don't have anything on the next agenda so we can discuss that yeah our goal with that
bywall was one to get the ability to write regulations yes and two to start some no disturb and see what we can get so we we can we can do that and we can look at the waiver um section of it as well and and if that states in there that we change that waiver section to state that we do
not grant a waiver for whatever we can look at that as well and lastly right behind the office going on to three central what wherever that
central property is looks like there some stuff that was cleared does it is that I don't Is that his died off i don't know i don't look his but but yeah that Yeah that's I'm not sure that lot yeah go look
yeah pass by much clearer yeah that's a tricky one yeah I'll go look you're getting nice weather to go out and look at things i I am i am i am i
amum we are i still have time off i get time tomorrow too i'm going to go out to Pine Medal of 91 Grat speaking of nice weather absolutely last thing did they put up the grove pond sign near the rain
garden sign at the uh by in Peron Park we had one last one other Pine Grove sign that we put the other blue signs i have an actual I have the extra I have an extra sign still you want me to go there that's the Grove that's supposed to go up there by right by where they put the new Kitty Place Center oh okay
we held on to it because they were going to be doing all the construction oh that is that why I have the extra sign yeah oh okay yes I have it so we can put that sign out no p point giving it to the contractors it would be long gone yeah okay yeah i think we were waiting on
that so we'll figure out how to get that installed i can do that okay yeah i just I was like "Oh every time I take I would just take it with me places when we had events." He like "Where's Grove Pond?" I go "Peron Park?" What's Peron Park like you live here um Well if you need one to take around I can get you a misspelled
Flanigan oh and the new one looks good john I drove by with Jess i stopped right in front of the sign i go "Check it out." She goes "What?" [Laughter] I have superb powers of observation all
right yeah so I'll I'll I'll talk to Sarah and possibly DPWC if we need someone to try to install i got I have the post in my office i might even have bolts too somewhere in a bag i moved and I know I can't catch it on the bookshelf so
Yeah I should have all of it so yes I do yeah I do have that big thing so we'll look at go out and look and see where we want to put it over there by the new play area right is that where you wanted to have it yeah yeah it was going to be there i think the that nature based playground
area over there the sign the rain garden sign or whatever the rain garden is over by the boat launch no the rain that's make it move no right over there by the park
right back in the parking lot the parking lot yep all right so yeah I'll go over there and take a peek at it next week or so in in can put it up that'd be great yep if not I got everything to do it then just let me know because obviously we got sick and everything
yep get a crew out there take it like five swings and I'm done look at Jen up there with her new shoulder that's right yeah I could take five swings as well
and be done on a swing me would be done jen and I would be nursing shoulders anything else motion to adjurnn so move second all in
favor say I i oppos today pass is unanimous