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You all set? >> Okay. All right. All right. This meeting is called to order. So, first up is our uh review and approval of the March 11th, 2025 meeting minutes. I looked them over. I didn't I didn't notice anything
there. >> Okay. I'll take a motion. >> Make a motion to approve the minutes for the March 11th, 2025 meeting. All those in favor? >> I I chair >> I the meeting minutes are approved.
>> All right. And now we're going to we're going to start our initial review and discussion of the solid waste enterprise budget and rates. Can you zoom back? That's nice. Okay.
All right. Who wants to start that off? >> I can speak to this if recap of the prior years and then our most recently ended year of fiscal 2025 just to give you an idea of how close,
you know, the budget was to estimated. Um, and I just thought it'd be a good start to to see where we where we are o over the years. Okay. you can kind of see a trend where the last couple years we've been going back back to um precoid
sales, you know, in in in receipts. We kind of had some 21 and 22 and 23 were kind of some higher years and then we're we're heading back down to normal. >> Okay. And then we have it as far as like the
wages. Um is this reflecting the overtime that now was no no more because we're not doing the extra hours. >> So that I believe that contract started in >> July 1st. July 1 for fiscal 2026. So So
no, but I did or was it 25? Sorry. >> Okay. >> It was 26 that it started. Okay. Yeah. So there's >> not in 26. >> Are you talking fiscal year or Okay. I Okay. So July 1st, 2025 fiscal year. >> Yes. >> Is when that just started. So there's no
no reflection there. Okay. That's why I want to make sure. >> Um I did have um Amanda and Pam just do a really quick estimate. Um and it's a total that overtime is around $8,000. >> So you might see some savings there for
that change or July 1st. >> Right. Okay. So no, that's why I just wanted to show so that anybody looking at that they would know that that number would definitely be different and you know maybe a little bit smaller. So >> okay.
>> Okay. It >> was just there forformational purposes. >> No, appreciate it. Yep. >> And so then Barbara on this sheet then the yellow box at the bottom after all is said and done there was 3,665. >> Yes. I'm glad you mentioned that. So the
revenue over expenses we we just just kind of squeaked by. Yep. >> In fiscal 25 without a deficit. >> Yeah, we did. I remember at one point putting a spending freeze because I was tracking the budget as we were going and you know anything that was a need that
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. That's right. You kind of put a moratorum on spending for the last few months of the fiscal year, right? >> Were anticipating >> it coming in really close. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah, you and I kept having discussions. >> Yeah, I kept sending them up.
>> Yeah, but we succeeded. >> Yes. >> No, good job. >> That's always nice to see. Long as you come out even slightly, >> you know. Um, >> and these are preliminary numbers. We haven't gone through the whole >> balance sheet and processing yet. So,
these are just preliminary. >> Correct. That's fine. Um, so what are our preliminary thoughts as to what we're preliminarily doing? Is that a word?
>> Um, well me. So my my initial thoughts just looking at what you have up here, Barbara, you can see the total expenses are going up year after year. So FY25 was 5 556,000 right in the bottom there. Now, FY26, we
anticipate around 573,000. I want to say there was a few minor things increased in the budget. Um, disposal of of solid waste was one of them. Uh, the wages, I think those should net lower, even though the there is a a change in the union contract and
the, you know, every every year there's always a bump in pay at least for cola. Um so so um so just seeing that 556 to 573 we know you know if our trends stay the same with our our bags and stickers
then it's looking like depending on what we discuss for the um the subsidy it looks like we'll probably need to raise rates somewhere. That's an initial 30,000 foot view. Yeah, my thought.
>> Yes, madam chair. So perhaps and there may be other inputs too we like we've done in previous years um you know for the next meeting is we run some scenarios. So I think one scenario would
be no increase. So let's just let's see what that looks like. Right. >> Yeah. >> And then I I'm sure there's some more discussion on some other let's see what some other scenarios would look like. But are you how much do you anticipate we need to raise?
>> I don't I don't know. I wouldn't want to say right now. Okay. Yeah. >> I haven't even run the model yet. >> You have a better sense the next time we >> Oh, definitely. Yeah. So, I'll run the model. >> Yeah. >> And then I'll have that exact number and it'll be kind of sim similar to previous memos I've done. When we run the model,
I'll run, you know, various scenarios. You know, there's like going to be at least 15 of them that we typically run, right? So, one of them >> any specific ones that we want running. >> No increase. >> Yeah. No increase. Current rates. See what we get. >> Yeah. Current >> um I'll work with Barbara too because we
have to factor in the subsidy. Um >> I think we've done one in the past where it was just permit and another one that was just bag. >> Yep. >> That was two more and then like a combo thereof.
>> We do. Yeah. There's a Yeah, we'll do a permit increase of your standard permit, your second permit, and your senior permit. We can do a combination of increase or or no increase on any of those. I I this there's a good like 15 scenarios we typically run. I can I'll
definitely run all those. If there's anything specific anyone wants, I could run as well. >> Just through the chair, one question. Obviously, we didn't raise anything last year. What did we raise the year before? Was it the Do you have that? I I meant to look Last time we raised was in
calendar year 2023. The stickers went up from 100 to 105. That was the last raise. >> Calendar 2023. >> Yeah. >> Permits went. >> So it's been two years. >> 100 >> 100 to 105. The regular permit. Prior to that,
uh there was a senior sticker that was raised in 2020 from 55 to 60. >> Okay. >> And then you have to go back 2019. Actually, I missed here. B the last time bags were raised was 2022.
All sizes went up a dollar per bag. And I can I can what I can do, I put together a memo, run the model memo, and I can have that I have a a tracker of the the rate increases over time. I can include that in the memo, too, so we can have an idea.
>> All right. So, 23 was the permits and 22 was the bags. Yeah. >> Okay. Um and I last year we did subsidy with no nothing out of um the enterprise fund. >> Right. >> Right.
>> For fiscal 25 we we used $36996 out of retained earnings. >> 36 what? >> 3696. >> So your next >> for fiscal 25. >> Yeah. So this year for fiscal 26 or cal starting calendar year 2025 I have
budgeted nothing to come out of retained earnings. >> All right. So fiscal year 2025 started on what calendar date? >> 70 71 2024 >> 2024. >> Okay. So for fiscal year 2026 we did not
use anything from retained earnings. Right. Which is what I said. So we did we did the general fund subsidy with nothing out of retained earnings and 26. >> Yep. >> Okay. Um so
and now we're looking to do FY27. What is in our retained earnings right now? Written >> down $135,452. >> $35 and what? >> $452. We um and I don't we we're just starting
the fiscal 25 ending year process so I don't know what it will be. We will know in a couple months. Yeah. If >> it's changed at all. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> If it did change it, how how big of a flux do you think it would be? >> Well, if we used if we end up needing
using the 3696, which I think we did except for $3,665 of it, I think we're going to decrease around $30,000. didn't do retained earnings last year for for July 1st, 2025 FY2026,
didn't >> we? We just started 2026. >> Fiscal year 2026 is the year we just started, which is correct. >> So, we have not budgeted any. Yep. Yep. So, I I don't know yet if the >> But aren't we starting to talk about
what the rates are going to be for FY27? Are we I You know what? I'm out. I'm out. Don't talk to me about fiscal years again. Never mind. Never mind. Never mind. >> I totally messed myself up. Okay,
>> I'm back with it. Jeez, I hate fiscal years. >> I know. Well, and I still go with the federal fiscal year. So that's what confuses me was, you know, so that's that still throws me. So, okay, never mind. Never mind. Um, okay. So,
but you know, I know that you haven't finalized all the amounts and everything. So, that 135 could change, but you know, it could fluctuate by about five grand. So theoretically, if we wanted to, we could use 50 grand out of retained earrings,
right? >> I mean, theor theoretically, we could use up to 135,000. Yeah. Of retainer, right? >> Next year. >> Yeah. No, we would we have to go to town meeting. >> That would be for fiscal 27. Oh, >> you're talking about doing it next.
Okay. Yeah. That's >> to be in the >> Yeah. So, there is there is some retained earnings. Yep. >> Question or comments? >> Yeah. >> Um, quick on
the receipts for uh FY 2025. I noticed that the bag receipts actually down with this. >> Um, is that do you think that's a fact and a factor of the sale of bags have gone down? What would it have to be?
because we raised the price of the bag. So, >> yeah, that it would be there were less bags sold. Yeah. >> Okay. Which is >> we didn't raise any prices, >> right? >> Oh, okay. Gotcha. >> 2022. The B the B.
>> Okay. So, so definitely then >> So, it looks like we sold the same around the same number of transfer stickers. So, we're still getting that. But I'm just curious why, you know, I'm not curious, but >> because the bags cost so much. >> Yeah. That's >> that that's why the bags are a problem,
>> right? Yeah. >> And and we talk about it, but when people are going into the store and they go to even get that one clump of bags, >> you know, they don't always have it and that and that's the problem. >> So that's we maybe we need to start
discussing a different way of doing things. Just throwing it out there. >> Okay. So, just to confirm though with this is definitely people are just this is due the 174,000 in 2024 dropping to 171 600,000 2025 is
due to less bags being sold. >> Yeah. >> That and probably nobody might be buying the really big ones too. They may have decided to drive the smaller ones composting and recycling better than they were. That would account for a little bit of it.
>> Yeah. I mean that's a general that's what it should be. So you'd think if if we'll have to see what the number of stickers sold were compared compared each year because if you had the same amount of stickers sold that would mean that more people were recycling if if they average the same amount of trash. They're still very close numbers. I
guess 174 171 but I can do some more analysis there and include that in the model. How many stickers we sold and how many bags we've sold because I have that in a tracking spreadsheet too over time. I tracks that. Okay. >> So then just moving into FY2026 which is
what you'll be modeling, right? >> Yep. >> So it so it's interesting was I mean it's it's great that it's very conservative but you think we could at least start with 140 and 171 for the uh
stickers and receipts for FY 2026 or >> so this budget was set last spring. >> Oh. So that we're we're just starting this. So this is stuff we had discussed last year about taking a conservative approach because we hadated
>> um decreases back last year. >> Oh, okay. Okay. >> So this uh >> Oh, so yeah. So this is this is this is locked into the budget. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Yeah. So this is again this fiscal year for >> Okay. So this is already budgeted. Oh,
okay. >> So we set the rates, you know, via calendar year, but we budget on a fiscal year. So this is the budget that was approved last. >> Gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha. >> Dan. Very good. Okay. Um just one other
one last comment. Um and then the expense line under direct expenses the increase is because of the solid waste cost. >> That's one of them. There's one or two other >> I think >> there was a one time fee this year for
the punch system. the union punch card system. >> Oh yeah. >> So it's I charged I split it between all the divisions. >> Yeah. >> Um trying I could find out what else there was. I can't off the top of my head. I don't remember. I wasn't
>> but I'm think would assume just because waste is just expensive that the big portion of that is the fact that it costs more to get rid of solid waste. >> That was the largest in >> Okay. Yeah. That's that's all I Yeah. recycling. I level I remember I level funded and that one that's come down
again. For a few years it got more expensive to recycle than the than the throwaway, but now it's come back. It's gotten better. Um but it's sort of creeped up a little so I level funded it. >> Okay, great. Thank you. >> Yeah, I can I can find out what else
I've had that increased. >> Robert, you were gonna ask something? >> Yeah, Dan. Recycling committee. I know the last couple have been zero. I just curious what was that money? You see it's one back was 1587 then 646 521.
>> Yeah. >> Do you know what that was? >> So that was revenue brought in by them and >> was a grant or something or >> No, I think they were it was they were selling um like kitchen scrap buckets. I I want to say things
and >> compost. Yeah. Yeah. And um then there was that whole program >> for your water >> the rain >> and the rain barrel barrels and everything. So yeah. >> So yeah they there was a time where the committee was pretty involved and they
were actually selling things through our office. It was actually before I >> just Okay. >> There was some room in there. Yeah. And so there's no more of a recycling grant. >> I think there's still the grant. I think
>> it's never there's nothing on that line. >> Oh yeah. >> So there is an annual recycling dividends program, RDP grant that the town receives and you get points based on if you meet certain criteria. Mass DOT like having the pay as you throw bag
program gives you points. So more you know more points you get the more money you get. We haven't gotten anything in the last five years. >> We we do we get it annually and it's tracked I guess it's not tracked here but we um we typically just we'll we'll
just um spend it on purchasing bags or something that you know takes that alleviates from an expense in our revenue. So usually that's what we we just spend it and then >> let's get rid of that line. >> We don't have it. >> I can delete that line. >> Yeah, let's just delete that line because that's just kind of misleading.
It's not a big grant either. It's like five grand chair. Dan, do you anticipate on the horizon? Are there any >> Yeah. We'll need a new pickup truck. New pickup truck. I think I had it for two years out, but
we're gonna have to >> go to this year's capital for it. Yeah, there's a pick a pickup like a F250 type. >> Any other significant improve 75 grand? >> Yeah. >> Um, not right now. I mean, it is an
aging facility though, so really we should start taking a look at it. And I mean, we do take care of it, but you know, that's probably >> what the transfer station. >> Yeah. the what the building. >> Yeah, the building itself just take a look at things over there and just you know size up when we expect there might
be a decent expense but you know I don't expect anything anytime in the next five years but um that's something that has crossed my mind which I got to do but yeah the next the only >> is the pickup truck >> right
>> for now. Um Yep. >> Because you did the paving. >> Yeah, the paving's been done. you know, other than that, it's in in pretty good shape. >> Well, start the process on on, you know,
looking what else has to be done so that we can maybe get ahead of it. >> Yeah. >> So, it doesn't get into that imminent, you know, how I feel. >> Yeah. >> About the work when it comes to repairs. >> Yeah.
in the scenarios that you'll run for next time. Some of them will incorporate recommendation on a retained earnings amount. >> Yeah, I can work with Barb. I'll I'll run the model and I'll >> think it's best.
>> I think pretty well. If I recall last year, we had anticipated about a $10,000 um you know decrease in revenues and we're right around 11. So we were that model was >> pretty well if I recall I think it was
11 10,000 or 9,885 or something like that. Really close. So, um it'll be good to run that. >> Well, when we run like the scenarios of, you know, that this committee needs to look at and I I know that, you know,
when it comes to the permits and the bags, you know, we usually do like a $5 and $1, I would request that if you can maybe look at a 250 and a 50 cent. Um,
you know, that if you're gonna if we have to make an increase that maybe it be a slightly smaller one um because of you know everything's going on people just don't have the money. >> Okay. Yeah. I'll make I'll run some I guess I'll call them finer scenarios
>> at that point. >> Yeah. >> That way we're at least you know if we do have to do an increase we're at least minimizing it as much as possible may you know. So >> yeah. >> So and then
I mean the good news is that if the good news is not if we have to do an increase, the good news is if we have to do an increase we we haven't had one for a few years. So >> you know which is which is a good thing because it shows that we've been like
really um tightening up. Okay. Um, I had asked a question and I remember you sent me an email now. I don't remember what you said as far as the um because I was asked by a resident about
did we fully ever answer the whole sticker versus bags and you emailed me back your response and I can't remember what you said. Oh, the so the the method meaning you used to do the the stickers
on the bags on general bags and then went to the bag system. >> Did we I remember we discussed that. >> Yeah. >> At some point. >> Have we fully done an analysis on this? It was in the Yeah, in the
>> I know I know we kind of touched on it, you know, and one of the the things that was said was, you know, it does make for easier um enforcement. I absolutely agree. Um but did we ever do like a real analysis or did we just stop
>> cost analysis? Yeah. >> Yeah. And that's in the report too. >> Yeah. I don't remember what it said. >> So I got that email too. Um so in the in the report from time bone from the 2024 now so that the town of air we spend approximately 18,000 annual
on the bag furnishment from our vendor. The same number of bag tags is estimated to cost around 4500. So that means we spend an additional 13,500 a year on the page you throw bags. So that's kind of the numbers. Um we really, you know, in
working with PEPL and other communities, everyone's moved over to the Paisy throw bags from the from the stickers and and monitoring and um enforcement was a big thing. And when you lose out on on the stickers or the bags, whichever it is, you lose in revenue. Um especially in
our case where the bags are, you know, a significant cost for people to purchase. If we miss a bag, we miss $5 here or there, right? >> Uhhuh. So um and then just fraudulent use it said in here bags discarded with no tag partial tags varying in size
difficult to identify. So it's much harder to keep a track of so that's why all the communities have moved right past you throw bag colored bag. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I wasn't asked so I wanted it you know back on the record and everything. So
>> yeah, >> is everybody that has the pay as you grow bags, are they using pretty much pretty much the same um uh pretty much the same? Sorry, hang on. What happened? Oh,
>> same distributor. >> Yeah. And >> I as far as I know, most towns around here use wasty route. >> Yeah, >> I did it. Um >> so I think that was one of the things we were going to talk about too is you know looking at a new distributor. >> Yeah. So our contract we do go out for a
new bid this end of this fiscal year. >> Okay. Okay. So we >> um and there is there are some options there. We can go out to bid this you know potentially I've never tried if you could with some surrounding facilities like Harvard if they're up for bid we could do a little
>> that's a good idea like a a regional bid. >> Yeah like we do with paving. There is a state there is a state bid too that these that way zero goes in puts you know they go in through the state bid as well. So you already got a number in there you could that's already procured. You could use that but separately could
just go to bid on our own because maybe our specs are a little different from the state bid and they're not as expensive of a bag. >> Does do you think Harvard and Pepper use the same type of bag? >> Um I know Harvard does. Yeah. >> I'd have to see what other might be
interested. You know, we have a um we have a group that we work together in. >> Yeah. I think they're all pretty much the same material. >> The contract ends June 30th of 2026. >> Yeah. >> The end of the current benefit. >> Yeah.
>> So, we definitely have an opportunity. >> Yeah. Definitely. >> To go out to bid >> and maybe I like I'd be willing to work with you on like whether it's the regional or state. >> Yeah. >> You know, that there could be some relief there. Maybe I can work with um
not Tessa but Sarah Vular her successor. >> Yeah, let's I think that's an opportunity that we should fully exhaust. >> Yeah, make a note. >> If I another idea because you have
nothing else to do with your your time could help too. But it's back to your idea of the sticker is like, so as a resident, I'm saying, "Okay, I got to buy a plastic bag um to throw my trash out." Oh, that's too expensive. I'll use
my own trash bag and I will get a a sticker to put on my own trash bag. How much does that trash bag cost? The >> Oh, it's a huge difference. So, but the problem at the time when we used the stickers, so they were about that long.
and about that wide. >> My god. So Andrew couldn't see him, >> right? So the idea that you would, you know, tie it up in the neck. Now, what has been, you know, uh, recommended by a resident when she was here, she recommended like a big round one, you
know, so if we were to go with a sticker, if if you know that was going to be a beneficial than doing a bigger one, you know, um, and one that couldn't be cut, you know.
So, um, but that's something if that was to happen, that's that would take a couple of years to go into effect anyways. But that was probably the problem. You know, it just small and and then occasionally somebody would just
cuz it was like 250. It for some reason the number 250 comes into my head and uh somebody would cut it in half. >> Yeah. >> You know, stickers. I was just curious. >> No, there wasn't. It was >> just a sticker for a bag. >> It was one and I think you could do a
maximum of like a 30 gallon bag. That was like that was a volume max size bag. So people could try to cheat. >> Yeah. >> I think it could be an opportunity. >> Yeah. So yeah, but I don't think we
should I think we should just keep like the stickers in the back of our head in case in case it ends up being an opportunity to go back to >> Yeah. you know, that can save the residents money and everything. >> There's a small handful of communities that still do them. >> Yeah. I
>> Yeah. So, but I mean, I agree that if we were to do something like that, we would need to get something a little bigger, you know. Yeah. >> And I know you had um you had a senior working up there uh for a little while and I from what I understand that was a good thing.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> He was having a good >> I heard I heard I heard that it was good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, and I know that um my my husband usually goes, but you you know he would let me know if there were black bags, but I was up there recently and that whole thing >> Yeah. >> got fixed, >> I think. Yeah.
>> Yeah. With the employees and everything. Yeah. >> And one other thing. So, last year we did raise the bulk sticker, right? >> True. We raised bulk. >> I want to say it was it two years ago we raised that too. >> Two because that was the whole toilet.
It it was varying. I mean, it was so many different items. We I could get that, but >> Yeah. Yeah. That's okay. No, just >> Right. Okay. >> That was two years ago. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Because we didn't raise We didn't raise anything last year. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Um >> Okay. >> Well, I Well, whatever you did as far as the spending freeze, I think that helped. Keep it up. >> Keep it up. >> Thanks. you know, too with the help tracking that.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Because >> a lot of close monitoring. >> Yeah. >> And Yeah. >> Yeah. So, >> all right. Well, I think that's enough of that conversation. Thank you very much. >> Uh update on the implementation of storm
water rate. I I was surprised when I got my last water bill that it wasn't on there. >> Yeah. >> And I was like, >> I figured I figured you would be, Janice. So I that's why I updated you at the select point. All right.
>> I just kind of went, "Oh, >> you're like, "Oh, I got away. I got away with one." No. Um, yeah. No, so the the current water and sewer billing software we use, so that DPW uses, it's called Koozie. And so what we did was early this year
in 2025, we met with Koozie and talked about bringing in storm water. We found out it's doable. We found out if we wanted to do it right away, there would be a cost to it. We also knew come July 1, we needed to upgrade. Cozy was going
through an upgrade process from our current software to a new software. So, they said it would be there'd be no charge if at that time when you're doing the upgrade, you just bring in storm water, which totally made sense. It would save our staff time. We'd save money and we get up to date.
>> I didn't anticipate it taking a long period of time to do this upgrade until we started doing it. We actually started in late June. We got a little head start. We uh cheated a little, I guess. But um but they originally were going to have us have it take until the end of
this this calendar year to to have be fully on the new software and be able to build storm water, but uh Pam and I were able to work with them and expedite the expedite it. And come October 1st, we'll be up fully up and running on the new software and storm water bills will be
going out. So, they're not on the bills in this first quarter of this fiscal year, but then after afterwards, they will be. And we did just get um our first login to the new software. It's it's been built. And so, now we're kind of testing it out. So, we're working out
all those kinks now for the October 1st change over date from the old to the new software. So, since it was originally going to be like July 1st that we would have gotten our first storm water bill and it's going to be quarterly, you're
not going to try to compensate for that missing quarter, are you? >> So, because I think that'll shock people because they've already in their head going, "This is what it'll be every quarter." So we we could do that or we could just go forward um charging what
the every quarter charge would have been and we would be okay from a revenue expense standpoint for our current budget this year. We'd miss out on a quarter quarter year billing. So I I know we definitely obviously we could set it up to run the quarterly 2375 a
quarter process the $95 divide by four. Um, we could easily do that if you know setting it up to to capture that $95 in three quarters. I I still have to work with Koozie just to see if that's something that's, you know, easy enough
to do, but it shouldn't really be that hard. So, I've been I guess I haven't we haven't decided which way to go yet. I talked to Barbara, Robert, but I think once I have an idea, can we do both? Well, I know we can do the one that's 2375. Should we should we move forward
with the 31 whatever and change it would be and um if if I three the a the route you choose to take then I think that there should be a note
in there to the resident saying look due to the software we weren't able to implement it on July 1st so that's why you're going to see this slight increase because We're going to capture that rather than just putting out there because >> there will be people who don't know know
what happened and they'll be like, "No, no, no, no. You told me it was going to be this amount." >> And they're going to be under the false impression that there was a rate increase when there wasn't. >> Right. >> And that's that's my biggest concern >> is that there's going to be some >> So, I do I haven't created it yet, but I
will create a a web page off of DPW that explains where we're at and what the bill's going to be. But that I guess that's sort of what if we I think you're right J. If we did >> Yeah, that's a good idea. Put a put a note in there. >> We really got to explain.
>> You're a resident. We love you. We're sorry, but this is what happened the software and this is how we're doing it and we didn't want you to be shot, >> right? >> Yeah, that's a good idea. Otherwise, the phone will fall off the wall. >> Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. Because people out there, they've
already said this is how much they're anticipating it to be a quarter, >> right? >> Yeah. >> Dan, if you forgo the quarter as you mentioned as >> any sense on the impact to the overall plan, meaning the funding revenue
funding plan. >> So, I think we'd say we'd miss out >> all right. >> Yeah, we'd be okay. Yeah, we'd be okay to keep moving forward with our asset management. You know, we you know, we'd miss out say it was a hundred to 150 grand is what a quarter of
revenue is. It was more than that. A little more. I'd have to look. I Yeah. >> How much? But I remember you showed it to me and because it started the storm water uh the budget, the expense budget very conservative that we were okay for the >> Yeah.
Yeah. So, you'd miss out on that. But yeah, we um I don't have the numbers in front of me, but I know we would easily cover the current budget we have and we'd still build up retain earnings. I want to say it was at least 150,000 retain earnings if we still forgo the
first quarter. >> Whatever you decide, but I agree with Janice. If the option is to capture that order, we should put a notification. >> Yeah. >> Right in the >> Yeah. So, I'll um I'll be in touch with
you this month because we'll the bills will start next month. So, we got to figure it out now while we're working UB4 >> figuring out how that's the new software we're using. U4. >> No, sounds good. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Can I just because I'm always dense about I have to write this stuff
down. So, what I'm hearing is it 95 a year was the base cost rate. >> Yeah. >> So, that's around $24 a quarter, >> correct? So if we had started everybody would see 24 24 for this year, >> right? >> But since we missed what they would see
if is 48 for the if we the first >> Well, you could spread it out and not do it in one lump payment. >> Yeah. Yeah. What I would do is I'd take the 95 divide it by three >> which is 31 and then divide for the remaining three.
>> So each quarter they get a 31 whatever. >> Yeah. instead of the 2375. >> 2375. Okay. >> Yeah. >> We would have to put a note that >> it should really should be >> and then in the next the year after that then we'd go we'd be billing quarterly
and we divided by >> whatever the rate the rate is. >> You could even put in that note going the rates did not get raised because if the only way the rates could get raised is if there was a public hearing and there was no public hearing. So this is what happened. Seriously, you need to put your explanatory notes plain.
>> Yeah, >> that's good. Yeah. >> So, the other idea would though would be just to >> skip the first 2375 entirely and then just b 2375 for the last three quarters, >> right? And it's in doing that, we're
still safe with our covering our expenses for the fiscal year that we have aotted. Yeah. >> All right. >> Thanks. I just I always need to see it in black and white. I'm sorry. >> I wasn't too happy about it, but
>> anyway, >> sounds like >> All right. Well, when can you have more numbers for us so we can schedule the next meeting? >> Two weeks. >> I'm busy tomorrow. Yeah.
>> I just seen if you're listening, Dan. >> Um, yeah, we could. Yeah, we could do two weeks. >> All right. You want to do the 23rd? >> Yeah, that works. As long as there's no other meetings, right? >> Four o'clock.
No, nobody's allowed to take our four o'clock Tuesdays. >> Great review. >> 23rd at 400 pm. So, we'll have the we'll have the scenarios for the transfer station.
Any quick update on storm water if anything? >> Yeah. >> And then Yeah. And then >> Yeah, you would probably have to have your decision by then. >> Yeah. Yeah. We'll figure out by then. We're figuring out. >> Okay. >> Yeah. All right.
>> All right. And the auditors are in the room, but I'll make sure they leave by like 20 of >> Yeah. Just throw them out >> that day. Yeah. >> Yep. >> Just kidding. Don't throw them out, but you know what to do. >> Nicely escort them in a hurried manner.
>> We have other places. >> We got a bunch of negative findings. >> The audit was going very well. So well. >> That's right. That's right. All right. Is there anything else? >> Good meeting. >> All right. I'll take a motion.
>> I make a motion to adjurnn. >> I'll second. >> All those in favor? >> I >> I say I We are adjourned. Or good night everybody.