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uh called this meeting of the select board with town of air uh to order uh Tuesday, June 16th of 2026. This meeting/hering of the air select board will be held in person at the location provided on this notice. Members of the public are welcome to

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attend this in-person meeting. Please note that while an option for remote attendance and/or participation via Zoom is being provided as a courtesy to the public, the meeting/hering will not be suspended or terminated if technological problems interrupt the virtual broadcast

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unless otherwise required by law. Members of the public with a particular interest in a specific item on this agenda should make plans for inperson versions accordingly. This meeting will be live on Zoom in channel 8. The public may

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access the proceedings by joining Zoom meeting ID 978-772-8220 or by calling 929-2056099. For additional information about remote participation, please contact Carly Antineellis, assistant town manager at atmair.mma.

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us or 978-772-8220 extension 100 prior to the meeting. If I could ask everyone to please rise for the pledge of allegiance. [clears throat] >> I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation

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under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you. [clears throat] Okay. Uh, everyone have a chance to review the agenda? >> Okay.

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You have an amendment. >> Do I? >> It's under. >> Yes. >> I had no >> no I make a motion that the board approve the agenda as presented. >> Seconded.

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>> Okay. Uh all those in favor? >> I. >> I. >> Chair says I. >> Okay. The agenda is approved. Um, do we have any public input for anything that is not on the agenda? >> Yeah, come on up. Uh,

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>> do I sit or? >> Yep, you can sit. State your name and your address, please, for the record. >> My name is Barry Sullivan. I reside at 7 Parlane, Hudson, New Hampshire. >> Uh, good evening. Uh, again, my name is Barry Sullivan. a trustee of the Sullivan Investment Trust, which owns

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the property on the north side of the West Main Street Bridge. Directly abuting both the east and west abutments on both sides of the Noncoious Brook. A landmark you may recognize on that land is a billboard structure adjacent to the

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bridge. My purpose tonight is simply to place a factual timeline on public record. On April 23rd, we were surprised to discover that our land was being used without permission. The area was cleared, environmental booms installed,

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and a cement containment structure built next to our billboard within approximately 24 ines of one of our support beams. On April 24th, we notified the town, posted no trespassing signs, and requested contractors be kept off the property due to liability

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exposure. On May 14th, the town manager confirmed in writing that all contractors have been instructed to stay off our land until access issues are resolved, and we appreciate that assurance.

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Since then, we have been working with the town manager, Rabbit Properbrand, DPW Director Van Scallowick to identify the correct access instrument. Our first discussion involved the possibility of a memorum of

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understanding but anou is non-binding cannot authorize access and does not provide liability protection identification or enforcability. For those reasons theou concept was not pursued further and no draft was ever

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provided. More recently we received a license agreement. After reviewing it carefully, the trustees determined that a license agreement is also not appropriate. It is non-recordable, revocable, does not convey property rights, and lacks

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enforcable protections needed to safeguard the trust, the property, and the town. At the same time, we learned town engineers have already prepared a fully uh surveyed stamped recordable easement plan identifying temporary

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easement TE2 and a permanent easement E2 on the property. The plan was approved by this board on May 19th and the town's appraiser was contacted the same day to begin valuation. This is a standard process for a

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temporary construction easement and permanent easement, not a license agreement. The trustees believe correctly and legally sound path is to proceed with a temporary construction easement and an associated permanent easement developed in parallel, recorded

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at the registry and approved through the proper channels. Finally, we need clarification on the current containment wall near our billboard, which appears within 24 in of one support beam, 57 in of the second.

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Even if this wall is on is not on trust property, it does not appear to meet the town's setback requirements, and its proximity creates a foreseeable risk to the revenue producing structure and pro and potentially a liability for the

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town. We look forward to receiving clarification. We appreciate the efforts made so far. We want to continue working cooperatively with the town to ensure the success of this important infrastructure project within the proper legal framework that protects both the

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town and the trust. For your convenience, I provided a brief summary of these points for the board's reference. Can I provide that to you? Just copy. Sure. >> Thank you. You have enough copies? >> Yeah, I'll take one. You're

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>> welcome. >> Thank you for your time. Thank you. Okay. Uh, anyone else for public input or anything that's not on the agenda? Okay. Moving on to the ratification of the

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parks and recreation uh, director appointment. So, if we call up uh, Jerry Amena. Hello again. >> Welcome Jerry. >> Mr. Chairman, uh members of the select board, it gives me a pleasure to

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introduce Mr. Jerry Amen, who I know is not a stranger to the town or or the parks uh department. Um he is before you uh this evening on re recommendation for ratification of his appointment as the parks and recreation director. Uh as the

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board is aware upon the resignation of the previous director uh we advertised uh the position. Uh we received uh nine uh applicants by the uh position deadline. as standard practice. There

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was a screening committee put together that consisted of myself, the assistant town manager, the chair of the parks commission, Miss Sarah Gibbons, and Mr. David Grub, also a member of the parks commission. Uh we vetted and reviewed the applications. Um we selected four

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individuals for interview and conducted those interviews and Mr. Mena was referred by the screening committee to the parks commission uh to be um interviewed um which he was uh last week

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and the parks commission voted four to zero uh to recommend uh uh his appointment. So it gives me great pleasure uh to present um Mr. Amenta this evening. uh you have in your packet a cover letter as well as his letter of

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intent and his uh resume uh from the process. I would like to also just add that as the board is aware um Jerry served as a interim parks director um for the last just over the last month

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and in that time uh we've gone from having only three potential lifeguards to being in a position that the beach will open as scheduled um fully staffed. The beach is all set up and ready to go.

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um his efforts on Peroni Park have been duly noted by many have received lots of compliments in the short time has as his work there and I think you'll find that uh his vision and passion uh for the

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parks uh department in the town will serve us well. So with that, Mr. Chair, I'll turn it back to you. We'd be ultimately looking for a a vote to ratify the appointment and we'll discuss the personal service contract later this evening.

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>> And I don't know if Jerry has anything he'd like to say. >> Yeah. Turn it over to you, Jerry. >> Just that I I appreciate the opportunity uh especially in the support over last month as well. And um I'm just that I'm highly energized and motivated to

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continue uh my efforts um to maintaining the parks and making that they're safe and clean and uh um in a place that the town can be proud of and that everybody including Per Park and the beach has a great experience when they get there.

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>> Good. Yeah. Um, so I think most people know I was on the commission with you for three years and you know I know the parks and the program very well and I have to say I I've been you know just

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absolutely uh ecstatic with what you've done in the interim. Um you know I've heard from many different people you know how the park is looking so much better. um the beach, which is obviously one of the crown jewels of the town,

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especially this summer. Um you know, just knowing like putting the docks out, how much of a project that is. And I saw they were out there, they're ready to go. So, um you know, I'm I'm very happy with this. you have questions or

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>> uh I just kind of want to bounce off a little bit of our discussion from the last time when we were talking about your efforts to find the lifeguards which congratulations it sounds like everything's been going well but like what will you do so you know going forward so that we don't necessarily run

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into this problem again since as we discussed last time lifeguards aren't the you know the summer job that kids seem to want nowadays. So, do you have a plan going forward? >> Yeah, I think it's just outreach, you know, to the high school and doing it earlier um in the season in March. And

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we um I think we started in April, but we put it every day in the loudspeaker. So, we are pushing the message to the kids and and also going out to Orchard Hills, went out to Graten Country Club. Um so, it's just outreach and we talked about that a little bit. Um and it's

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creating a good experience this summer um for the lifeguards. Um they'll come back. we have four returning lifeguards who are coming back from college um you know to be lifeguards and so there's a lot of experience there which which is very helpful um so I think just a really good succession plan also being

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competitive in our you know hourly wage which we are but we always have to just make sure that we're you know aware of of surrounding towns what they're um offering um so I think yeah together with that a good experience for them during the summer good work environment

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um I think a good outreach program to our surrounding community plus our high school and then um um I think that those two things for sure will help us >> doing it early being more proactive. I think I think by the past few years maybe we weren't as proactive as we

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should have been. >> Sounds great. >> I do >> I do agree with that. Um, in this position is kind of a very, you know, almost like a unicorn where you have to be able to do the admin part as well as, you know,

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being in the dirt and the maintenance and fixing things and um, you know, looking at your resume and what you've done. You have that combination, which is rare. >> Yeah. Any questions? [clears throat] I'll make uh make a motion that the

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board uh the board ratify the parks and recreational director appointment um as presented. >> Seconded. >> Okay. Uh all those in favor? >> I >> I >> chair says I congratulations.

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[applause] [snorts] >> All right. Okay. Uh, next item is the public hearing for the proposed revisions to the town of air's water rules and regulations. Uh, town of air notice of public hearing

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air select board proposed revisions to the town of air water rules and regulations. The air select board acting as the town's water and sewer commissioners will hold a public hearing regarding proposed revisions to the town's water rules and regulations on

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Tuesday, June 16th, 2026 at 6:05 p.m. in the first floor meeting room of the Air Town Hall located at 1 Main Street Air Mass. At the public hearing, the select board will receive a brief presentation on the propo proposed revisions and will

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take public input. These revisions are being proposed as required by the water management act permit renewal process. The three main changes include the addition of seasonal limits on non-essential outdoor water use, adding language for what water use is not

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restricted, and adding language for variance request information. At the conclusion of the public hearing, the select board will consider voting to approve these re revisions. the review. To review the proposed revisions, please visit www.air.mma.

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us or contact the select board office at 978728220 extension149 or at tmair.mma. us. Zoom meeting ID is 978-772-8220

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and call-in number is 9292056099. For more information, please contact atmair.mma. us or 978-7728220 extension 149. Date of public hearing Tuesday, June 16th, 2026.

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Time of public hearing 60:05 p.m. And location of public hearings, first floor meeting room, Air Town Hall, 1 Main Street, Air, Massachusetts, 01432. Remote participation meeting held on Zoom. See above for Zoom details.

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>> Okay. So, welcome Dan and Kimberly. >> Good evening. >> Good evening. >> Um, thank you. As we said, we we are doing a public hearing on the water rules and regulations revisions. So the agenda for tonight in this

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presentation is background on the water management act. Why is this required? Highlights of what is changing and why it's important. So the background is really is the core

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issue is the water management act which became effective in 1986. It is the it authorizes the state to regulate the amount of water that can be withdrawn from individual waterheds and we withdraw water from individual

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wersheds to to for our public water supply. The water management act regulations are meant to ensure that there's enough water for now and in the future. So what's important to note is that there are registrations and there are

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permits to withdraw a certain average amount of water each year. So we have a registered amount which is based on our usage between 1981 and 1985 and that does not change. But then there's a permitted amount. So if we want to use water above that registered amount, we

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have to get a permit for that. And that renews every 20 years give or take depending on um extensions and whatnot. And so that's what we're applying for. That's what's been that's what's being renewed. Um so for more information, there's a link there.

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So why is this required? Um air's water management act permit renewal application for the Marramac River Basin suspect pond um was recently submitted. So I'll note that air has two wersheds and we're just we have the NSHA and the Marramac and we're just dealing with the

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Marramac at this time. and spectacle pond wells are in the Marramac River basin. So after the submitt, the mass D issued an order to complete with a list of special conditions um that we had to

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address. Um we provided those responses and D is now reviewing. The renewed water management act permit for the Marramck River Basin will require further restrictions on non-essential outdoor water use than what is currently required. I don't have

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crystal ball to say what those restrictions are going to be. Um, but it's but I the writing is on the wall that they want to be more restrictive and so it requires a bylaw or an ordinance in our rules and regulations

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that allows for these seasonal limits on outdoor water use to be applied. So there's three major highlights of the changes. one is that in the definitions and the reasons for restrictions um is adding the seasonal limits on

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non-essential outdoor water use. Um this language comes directly from the state. Um and um so it's it was important that these definitions and adding in the language

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specifically seasonal limits on non-essential outdoor water use be included. So there's also added language in the revisions for use that's not restricted. So when we go to um odd even days and what's restricted,

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there are uses that are not restricted. And so um our rules and regulations have never been clear on that. So I wanted to add that in there so it's more clear. The other thing is that we traditionally have accepted variance requests. So if

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somebody um there's if they install new landscaping or if there's a government project that requires daily water use then people can apply for a variance during restrictions and we take those as a case by case and so we just wanted to

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to put that in the regulations as well. So why it's important is to uh continue to meet regulatory requirements. uh we need to be in compliance with the water management act and preserve our resources. Um these are are good uh in

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my opinion they're good changes because it helps to clarify what can what is restricted and what isn't restricted when things are restricted and it allows for us to enforce these restrictions when they are enacted. It also lastly allows for variances to be granted on a

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case-byase basis. That's it. >> Questions? >> Yes. >> So, [clears throat] sorry, I can't figure out which glasses are working. Um, so when you're making the changes and

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and when we have to make, you know, restrictions, uh, depending on the season and whatnot, do you find that people are getting the information because there are people that don't follow social media? So, how are you getting that information

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out to them? Are you sending out a flyer? How how are you doing it? So for the time being we have the signs that are all over town that the only restriction we have is the calendar restriction the May through September the odd even watering and so we have signs around town. Uh assuming that

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changes we will get new signs that describe the new changes. Um we do the social media posts, we do email blasts, we do the um website. Um we don't publish in newspapers or anything like that. So,

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I'm uh I'm open to suggestions on how else we can get the word out. >> Well, honestly, I don't know if this would work. I mean, but I just over the years, you know, little things that I've seen and I sometimes wonder if there should

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be like a quarterly thing or something, you know, even to remind everybody, you know, hey, uh, you know, like for example, if you were sending one out in in March, you know, uh, for that quarter, you'd be saying, hey, come May,

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we expect to go in front of the select board to say whatever the new restrictions are going to be. Okay. >> So, at least you're giving the people a heads up, >> you know, and then, you know, your next one would say, you know, when it comes up after your next quarter, like, okay,

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this got approved. And then, you know, and it also kind of gets people to understand that maybe it's a regular thing. So, again, just ideas. Um, there's also some people still watch Channel 8 on Apac. Um, you know, maybe

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you could put a flyer on there to say, "Hey, this is what's going on." you know, I mean, I'm not saying you I know that the information is getting out there, but I also know that there are a lot of people that are not following social media and, you know, those are

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probably the ones that we're probably needing to reach. Uh, you know, so I just trying to figure out and and there's also people that are disengaging from social media because it's just it's too much, you know. Um, so you know, another way, um, and as a reminder for

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somebody to say, "Hey, you know, sign up for an email or or a text or something like that." So just, you know, other ways of trying to get the information out because the signs, you know, I I have to laugh again, and I've said this a few times over the years, like, "You mean that when you said we're just going

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to do the eat?" I'm like, "Oh, so we're going to follow the sign that's out there." But that sign's been there so long, you know, we ignore it. So, if the sign changes, that's not that in a way is a good thing because

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hopefully it'll you if you make it a different color like, "Oh, that's that sign's changed. Let me read it." So, that's a new way. Um, so just that I guess those are just the little things that, you know, I wonder about. Um, because you're always hearing somebody say, "Well, I didn't know." It's like, "Well, how how do you not know?" You

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know, but then again, it's easy for me to say, "How do you not know?" because I'm right here, you know, and but there are a lot of people that don't want to engage because they're thinking, well, if I get involved with town government, that's politics and I don't want to do that. And they need to realize what that

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means, you know. So, those are just suggestions that may or may not work. >> Yeah. Um through the chair, if I may say thank you very much. Those are some good suggestions. I'll take those into advisement. Um >> absolutely. Have you ever put um flyers

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like in the water and sewer bills? Because I mean those are going out quarterly and >> we tend not to because there is a a a price associated with doing that. >> Um which is not a terrible hardship. Um so I would consider that.

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>> Okay. You know just thinking I mean those are all going out no matter what to everyone. Yeah, I think that's a good idea, too, >> because then because if you ended up doing that and if you bounced off on the quarterly idea, then when you're sending out those bills too, you're also giving

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everybody a reminder and even like, hey, rate review is going to be meeting and we're going to be discussing this on this time, right? You know, so again, just kind of and then after a while, people are like, oh, I'm starting to notice this trend. It's the same time every year.

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Yeah, especially get that message out again that like these restrictions are, you know, part of the state regulations. It's not we're running out of water. I said that a bunch of times, but it sounds like I see that all the time. We have these restrictions because the town

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has no water, which I know isn't true. >> No matter how good we think our flyer is or our our Facebook post, it's it's like, oh, turns out was the pot. So, Josh additional questions.

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Okay. >> Yes. Thank you. It is my second meeting. So I'm >> uh Yes, it is a public hearing. So anyone from the public have any comments or questions? Zoom. Okay. Seeing none.

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Okay. So, do we need to vote on the >> Yeah. >> on this? >> At least one motion. >> One motion. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, make a motion that the board approve the proposed revisions to the town of

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water rules and regulations as presented. >> Seconded. >> Okay. All those in favor? I >> I. >> Chair says I. >> Thank you very much. >> Okay. I'll make a motion to close public hearing. Second. >> Okay. All those in favor? >> I >> I

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>> chair says I meeting is closed. >> Thank you. >> Yep. [clears throat] >> Thank you for the presentation. Okay. And well, while you're here, >> yeah, >> we'll have um you stay up for the DPW director's report. >> Yeah, good good evening. Um I'll kick

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this off. So, first um item under DPW report is the DPW snow removal budget. And this past winter was a a doozy compared to recent winters and we over spent the budget. Um, not unusual. Hasn't happened in many years. I did

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include in my memo kind of a background of of of uh previous years historical trends um of the uh um where I put this of the uh budget. Um and so there's a few ways to deal with that for the town.

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Um, and the most common way that the town has done it before and working with Robert and Barbara, the finance manager, the way we recommend would be to to um capture the deficit on the what's called the recap sheet, the recapitulation sheet, which is for FY27.

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And so there is actually a line item right on the first page of the recap sheet for previous year snow expenses because this is a common theme with municipalities in uh in Massachusetts. Um and so as part of that, the select board would have to authorize that uh um

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that um putting this on the recap sheet, putting this deficit on the recap sheet. So um through the chair, we I recommend that the board move forward and uh and authorize the FY26 no budget deficit um

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to be accounted for on the rec FY27 recap sheet. Um, is there any possibility of state aid? Because I know some of the towns, at least I saw a couple days ago, got some money coming in from the state to protect

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>> we we tried to get some and we were told it wasn't going to be likely for it. If you remember, there was a large snow event on the south coast, Providence, Rhode Island, and in that area. So, I know some communities down there were able to to receive aid and we did not

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receive any out of that attempt because we were further away. So, um so we did not get any as part of that endeavor, but um there was no other aid I was aware of to potentially take advantage of. >> Okay. Yeah. Because all the towns that I

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saw was like Plymouth got 660,000 or whatever. >> 30 in and plus down there and and there was a >> emergency declaration which they were able to take advantage of. >> Yeah. >> Okay. All right. That answers my question. >> Still traumatized from 2015. [laughter]

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>> Yeah. >> Okay. Uh any other questions? I'll make a motion that the slug board authorize the FY26 snow removal budget deficit of up to $140,77045

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to be accounted for on the FY2027 recapul recapitulation sheet. Second. >> Okay. All those in favor? >> I >> I >> chair says I. >> Thanks. Kimberly's got the next item. The next item is the execution of a contract for the wastewater treatment

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plant fiscal year 25 pump replacement. So this is part of a five fivephase capital improvement project. This is phase four that we're in. And this phase four is being broken out into two two parts. So this is the first

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part. Um we opened bids on April 1st. Uh, Barbado Construction was the lowest and most responsive bidder and so we are recommending that they be awarded the contract in the amount of 894683

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and this is to replace um several pumps at the wastewater treatment plant. And I will note that the contracts are over there and I'll bring them over. They're like big books, so I'll have to um give them to you one at a time, but

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I've got a signature tab so you know when where to sign. >> All right. Sounds good. >> It's awkward at best. >> Uh questions? >> No. Make a motion that the board vote to

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execute the contract for the wastewater treatment plant fiscal year 2025 pump replacement in the amount of $894,683 for signature by the chair. >> Seconded. >> All those in favor? >> I chair says I.

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>> Awesome. Um, last thing, just a handful of project updates we want to make the board aware of. one timing really um good on this one. 2026 road paving. We're we're having kind of a light year this year um for our road paving and where we're going to pave is um a

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portion of Cambridge Street um portion of Norwood A and Adam Street and these are the roads last year we did water main and storm drain improvements on and so they've actually been out there already and we'll be reclaiming this week. we have notification out and getting binder down by the end of the

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week and um and hopefully by the end of the month have those pro that area completed. Um but there will be sidewalk improvements um to go with that and um Matt Hearn and the town engineers done a good job on our website of of having a

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DPW construction projects um page and so there all our major projects are up there. Um the other project we haven't touched base on a while is the clear wellwater supply and Kimberly you want to >> right >> take a stab at

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>> so um demand has been okay um demand has gone up since for the past month or two and we have been struggling with meeting demand. Um we did end up purchasing water from Devon's for the weekend of

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June 4th to June 8th. Um but that um is something that we had to do. Um we are hopeful that this clear well project will help this problem that we're having and to date that clear well has been

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filled and tested. It's meeting it's meeting the testing requirements. We're doing final pipe work and uh start doing the startup and pump testing. And we expect the Clearwell and finished pump station to be up in operation in early

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July. >> Nice. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Um those are the ones we want to update you on. >> That's it. You got a full meeting. >> Thanks. >> Why don't you leave them and then I'll

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get them to you tomorrow. >> Okay. Yeah. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Um, next is Chief Gil uh to speak about the Flock safety cameras. >> Mr. Chair. >> Yep.

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>> Um, just before the Chief on his presentation, I was going to bring up under announcements, but if I could um Yes. uh under here and and Chief Gill is a very humble and modest uh gentleman. But I did want to recognize that at the

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Mass Department mental health and law enforcement conference that was held on June 10th at the Boston College School of Law in Newton that Chief Gil was awarded their law enforcement leadership award. uh the leadership and efforts specifically recognized with the chief's

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efforts to transition and save the coin jail diversion program which the board is um aware of that last year coin which is [snorts] uh provided mental health resources for police and and public safety personnel uh involving nine towns

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was in jeopardy of ceasing to exist and through the chief's uh leadership and we appreciate the board's support uh coin um is back in action ction serving all nine towns completely grant fund grant funded from a grant from the department of mental health. And lastly, the

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citation specifically read uh in recognition of Chief Gil's collaborative forwardinking approach has strengthened behavioral health response efforts across the Nshoba region and created a model that will benefit the communities for years to come. So I did want to

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bring that up since he was awarded that this [applause] award last year. I know that you're humble and you know you don't want to have the accolades but you deserve them and I'm glad that you know this was uh you know said here in this in this meeting because

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>> I appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you for that. >> Okay. Um Mr. Chair, uh just want me to jump right at it? >> Yes, please. >> All right. So, at uh at the last meeting, we uh we talked a little bit

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about the um the flock safety uh program that's um that's unfolding here and here. And one of the things that we were going to be doing um for uh to just increase the level of transparency in this and it's one of the uh I think

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we're one of the maybe the few uh municipalities are being this transparent in this in this program. So, what I did was uh on our town web page um I created what I'm calling the the the portal um the the uh the uh public

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information portal and uh and included uh a really a whole lot of stuff in there that that we were seeing was repeated questions um things are being uh documents being requested and just general um uh not knowing what the what

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the what this is and what this what this equipment and and system does. Um so uh I'm happy to report that on June 8th as as as we promised that that did go up. Um and uh one of the the things that we

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talked about during that that meeting was that this was a portal that was going to be continue to be modified. I'm happy to say that even up to today um the system the the portal has been updated with with different uh and more information on different information.

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with a um and that's and that's what my plan is is to to to you know to continue to have um this updated with information uh especially that where I see you know questions that I'm seeing in in in all all different venues that um you quite

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you know that that especially if they're repeating that means there's some confusion about that and I want to try to get those answered as as much as I can. Um, you know, I I've received uh a couple uh couple emails from people with some uh some questions and I tried to

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address those in the FAQ um part of the the portal um to to answer uh you know the the emails that come in all the time with uh the myriad of topics and comments and concerns. I think that's you maybe all I'd be doing for a while.

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So, I think that the FAQ and that public portal is is is going to be a a really good tool for us to to be transparent and to to offer that those answers to everybody that that has those questions. So, uh moving through this, what what we plan on tonight is just kind of going

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over the overview of the public information portal. Um so, we're just going to do these two bullet points and if there's any questions from the board. So, uh flock safety overview. So, it's uh It's it's a company. It's a

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national company. It's uh it's the industry leader rate in uh the license plate reading technology. Um their systems uh capture time stamp data that we uh can use in in investigations and

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greatly speed up these investigations. Um Flock technology has been extremely successful in in solving uh high-profile cases around the country. Um and uh in in locally here um the uh if we can

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remember maybe about a year ago we had a um over in our next door neighbor at Harvard um they had a I believe it was a FedEx driver that was robbed at, you know, coming out and um there was very little information to go, you know, go with except for the the home

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surveillance camera. the information that was used in that home surveillance camera was they were able to go to to one of our partner agencies and say, "Hey, does this make any sense?" And the idea was to put it, you know, they they put the the pieces of information in um in the in their search engine and they

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were able to come up with the lead and and make arrests. Um without that system, that case would have been unresolved. Um and then the the the major ones around there. So, um, and you know, and I just don't want to focus on the major crimes that this can solve. In air, we have, you know, we have crimes

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that, uh, you know, that may be small, but to the people that are victimized, they're huge. So, I I don't want to diminish any type of minor crime, um, and compare it to the major crimes is what we're looking for where, you know, we want to we want to have this system work for our, uh, our citizens, whether,

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you know, small crimes or big, every, you know, a victim is a victim. Um, flock technology is used in 6,000 communities, 5,000 law enforcement agencies nationwide. Um, it's also uh uh that they're uh being used in commercial

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settings as well. We're not connected to the commercial settings community though. Um, flock safety technology is used to solve 2,000 crimes per day across the country and uh that accounts for 10% of all crime in the nation. So flock is is across the nation solving

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10% of the crime that we're we're experiencing in the nation and we hope to realize that you know that that same uh percentage and increase in sol right there. Uh next so here's a uh screenshot of our public's uh safety information portal.

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Um this was done uh last week. So there there's a another bullet point in there um if you look at it today. Um but uh so went live on June 8th, contains various documents and links. Uh there's a couple videos in there that explain uh and show

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uh the the uh flock uh search engine and and how it works and some of the data that's uh that comes out of it. And like we talked about will be updated periodically as it was today. Um, so to access the portal, you can go

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to the town website, navigate to the police department's website, and on the left hand side, uh, you'll see the flock safety public safety portal. Um, or if you want to >> chief, I'm just going to do a quick demonstration. How's it? >> Sure. >> We have the internet.

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>> So, we're at the homepage. And then >> we're not seeing it. >> Yeah, we're not seeing it. >> You're not? >> No. >> Still not seeing it. >> All right. Sorry. We won't do it that time. Um, so yeah, you just can go to the uh the the the town website,

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navigate to our section of there and on the left hand side um just select the uh the information portal. There's also going to there's also a lot of other information on our website that uh is is fun to uh navigate through. Um

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and that's the overview of the public safety portal. So uh again, this is something that I think is very unique to us in the amount of information that we're putting out there. um to make sure that uh our citizens have the information that they're uh

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looking for. Um and uh you know uh my email address is is available on the website if anybody has any questions or concerns or they just want to tell me how they feel about this. I'll I'll take your emails and uh um sometimes I can't

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answer them. Uh they're just comments. Um but uh I I do respond. So with that, um that's the public information portal. Okay. Uh any questions that I can?

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>> Well, I thank you for being here. I know you're very accessible. Like you say, you have your um email address here. I know people reach out, you respond. So, thank you for that. um you know having all this information and as you said

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updating putting new things on there it's like a living document. It's not just you know you put stuff up there and it's done. Um so we we do appreciate that. Um questions.

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>> Okay. >> All right. Well, then I thank you. Well, anyone anyone from the public? Okay. Please come up. State your name, your address. >> Yeah. Hi, I'm Julie Landy. I live at 19

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William Street. Um, and yeah, I I really appreciate you putting up all this information in the portal. It I I agree. I think it is pretty unique among all the municipalities. I really appreciate having all this info available to us. I think it does help the transparency a lot. Um, I do have some questions.

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um particularly kind of looking at the FAQ and looking at the contract and seeing where they kind of don't mesh in some spots. Um so in your FAQ um it says that like uh the air PD owns all of the

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data collected by the cameras in air, but the contract seems to define that differently. Um >> I think that's an interpretation, but I'll you can continue. Well, the customer data um section is defined as um the images, audio and or video

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segments made available to customer through the web interface in connection with the flock services. Uh together with the metadata associated with that customer's use of the flock services and for clarity, customer data does not include the underlying raw footage captured by the flock hardware or any

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flock IP. Um, so I think the way that they say like you own the customer data makes it sound like you own everything, but they've defined it excluding all of that raw footage that they retain the rights, too. So, I think it's misleading

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to say that we own all of the data collected. >> And I appreciate the question, and I've had that question a couple times. Um, so the raw footage, as it's been explained to me by Flock, is nothing that's retained. it's put into the machine data learning uh area of the technology and

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that is what is there. So there's nobody that there's nothing for us to own. >> Okay. That it would be good to get that in writing I think because the contract does specify that no other agreements that

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aren't signed by both parties are like good essentially. Again, there's there's nothing else to share from the data. There's no there's no >> it would be good to get that in writing that that data is not retained. It's destroyed.

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>> So that's the interpretation of the data. So the data that is available is what so the the cameras all get a they get a video >> and then that is sent into some machine learning >> and then that is what is transferred

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into the data that is available. So the customer data is not all of the data that exists even in the contract. It does specify that the like the flock IP. So the customer data doesn't include

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the raw footage captured by the flock hardware or any flock IP. The Flock IP includes any derivative works, intermediate or final output, analyses, reports, models, or other results generated by or through the Flock services. Um, except for the limited

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ability to access and download customer data within the applicable retention period. No rights are granted to download, extract, export, or otherwise create or retain copies of such derivative works, outputs, puts, or other elements of the block IP. Um,

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to me it just sounds like there is data that is customer data and there is data that is flockowned. >> That's why I said I think that's just an interpretation that you have. >> Okay. Um, cool. And then putting that to the side,

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I also um about the >> you list out some policies that the air police department has. Yes. to control the data. And I think they're really good policies. I was glad to see those in there. Um, and you um made sure to

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say that like we're only sharing with other Massachusetts agencies, which I also think is good. >> Um, but I'm wondering if we are making sure that those other like agencies that we are sharing with have policies that are at least as restrictive as ours.

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>> Yes. Um, so the only way that um, people can access our data is by making sure that they are they're doing the same thing that we're doing. What their policies are, I'm not sure. They can't get our data without providing the reasonings that we have.

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>> Um, okay. the con the contract again um does say that like in the disclosure of customer data section which is the part where they're talking about when you choose to share with other agencies um subject to and during the retention period flock may access use preserve and

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or disclose customer data to law enforcement authorities oh I'm sorry that's the wrong section I apologize 4.4 for data distribution which is one where we're talking about um with those other agencies. Uh customer may upon request choose to integrate flock services with

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third party to either distribute integration data or customer data. Upon such request customer hereby grants to flock on non-exclusive non-transferable royalty-free perpetual license to access, share, view, record, duplicate, store, save, reproduce, modify, display and distribute customer data and or

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integration data as required by the requested distribution. Okay, we probably don't have to go through the whole entire contract because the [laughter] idea I mean >> customer customer acknowledges that such data may be viewed, recorded, duplicated, stored, saved, reproduced, modified, displayed, distributed and retained by a recipient for a period

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longer than flock standard retention period and hereby provides consent to such retention period. So they don't they don't have to hold our policies. They can have less restrictive policies. >> So the se the section that you're reading is if we if we work with a third party distributor

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So a different group. So there's there's technology out there that you can connect your flock safety cameras or any cameras for that matter to work within that application. That's not talking about other departments. >> That's talking about third party

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applications. >> H okay. Interesting. Um, and then my last thing that, you know, irked me in the contract, um, is basically that, um, lock

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retains the rights. Got myself all mixed up here. Yeah. Is that disclosure of customer data section? um the subject to and during the retention period, Flock may access, use, preserve and or disclose the customer data to law enforcement

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authorities, government officials or third parties if legally required to do so or if Flock has a good faith belief that such access, use, preservation, or disclosure is reasonably necessary to comply with the legal process, enforce its agreement, or detect, prevent, or otherwise address security, privacy,

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fraud, or technical issues or emergency situations. So, it's kind of a really broad >> I know the section that I've gotten this question a lot, so it must be out there somewhere to to highlight that. >> It could be I I just read >> um the section that you're referring to

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is if most people don't read their end user license agreements as they're really reading this uh master service agreement or end user license agreement. So, that's in most of them. So, what that says is if there's a uh if there's

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uh any type of legal process that's demanding them to turn it over, they will. Uh if there's an emergency situation, they will. Uh >> but it does give them like sole discretion to choose to release it if

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>> and that's in and that's in most enduser license agreements. And um >> I think that's really problematic to allow this company to distribute our data. >> I mean we would have to say that about every company I guess. >> Okay. >> I'm happy to do that.

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>> We agree with the end user license agreement. We have not done that with Flock. You have done that with Flock. I also think that Flock is a particular example that has shown themselves to be disreputable in a lot of ways um in

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their dealings with other towns. >> Appreciate the comment. >> But that's all and and like I said, I really do appreciate you you putting all this information out there. I appreciate all the questions. >> Um and actually that one that you were talking about about the end user license

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agreement, that was one of the ones I got taken from the FAQ. >> Cool. Awesome. Thank you. >> Yep. Thank you. >> Yep. Um it will come as no surprise that we are married. Uh Luke Inennis, uh Nike William Street. Um thank you for being

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in 19 and like my wife. Um >> I'm sorry. You need to speak up. I can >> Sorry. Can you say your your name? >> Yeah, Luke Inis. It's I Nes 19 William Street. Um yeah, I

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[snorts] appreciate your time and I appreciate what you're trying to do. This product and the company, they make a lot of claims that sound very excellent. And I mean I you can

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clearly see how it makes your job easier. you can solve cases so much quicker. I just in the research that I've done, I I agree that this company is problematic

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um in terms of how they have represented what they do versus what they actually do. Um I I just have one specific question. Um within the portal there's an email dated November 17th, 2025 in

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which you address the um guidance advisory from the ACLU of Massachusetts um in which they they highlight some of the problems with the data sharing especially uh as they relate to the degradation of the ability to enforce

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the Massachusetts shield law. Um, and I appreciate it in that email. It sounds like you uh were explaining to the town manager that you altered the settings in order to only be sharing information with other Massachusetts departments to

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comply with the advisory or not to comply but in taking the recommendation of the ACLE which I I think was a good idea. Um, within that same advisory, they also recommended changes to the contract

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language, um, which don't appear to have been made here. Um, so I'm curious if there was any thought given to modifying the boilerplate contract that was provided by Flock before the town

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signed it. >> The simple answer is no. >> Okay. the ACL you you're right that you know they had a uh you know they they uh have an advisory that they put out to uh you know the public their members and I looked hard at that because I wanted to

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see what they uh you know what they were recommending to to comply uh is best is it was the mass it was in Massachusetts national >> so I wanted to to mirror that as much as possible >> um you know because you know I do respect the work that they do for the

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debug citizens of Massachusetts. All right. All right. I guess follow up to that and I I really I am not trying to be adversarial. I apologize if it's coming off that way because I I do appreciate what you're doing. Um I I notice on the flock

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website they specifically highlight this burn jag grant as a potential source of funding um for these these devices in towns that otherwise are not able to uh meet the financial burden and I also have seen that uh representatives from

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safety have assisted with the filing of the grant paperwork. Um is that something that happened in this particular case or was it your department that filed the grant paper? >> Awesome. That's good. Um, it just it it worries me to see a company obviously they have a financial interest in

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getting the contract signed, but to see them doing this and then having known that we signed their boilerplate contract with no modifications is uh troubling to me. >> Yeah, you there's actually another email

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probably in that same area uh I believe it's uh to from me to the town manager, Mr. comprehend where we were talking about how we were looking at going you know going in you know the flock system uh just with some uh you know funding

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through air um and then as the budget started to take shape um we just realized that that wasn't going to be an option uh to move forward in that direction and then uh the the they the burn Jag brand um which is the name of

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it is uh you know becomes available and it gets advertised. Yep. >> So, um we originally put in for uh a bigger uh bigger model. >> Um we got the funding for 25,000 which is when we had to scale it back. So then

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>> um so to go through um you know to get to the burn jag grant you do have to get an initial quote. >> Yep. >> And uh you know so we had to you know work with uh Flock at one point to say hey we're interested in going here. We need a quote for this. Um, and that's

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what got submitted for the our JAG grant. Okay. >> Didn't get as much as we wanted, so we uh had to, you know, scale scale the project back. >> Okay. Um, one more question and then I'll let everybody get on with their evenings. Um, once the funding from the burn jack

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grant runs out, um, in the wording of the contract, it is set to autorenew and it is, as far as I can tell, and please correct me if I'm wrong, it's $25,000 every year. Um, is that grant something that we are able to apply for again to

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fund this or is it going to be coming out of the police department budget in years forward? >> Great question. Um, so what we're looking at right now is available grant funding is what's out there um to, you know, to to supplement this program if

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if it's something that uh that I I find that is advantageous for us to to continue. Um and what we'll do at that point is uh uh you know try to figure out you know if we say okay we want to continue it um you know what grant

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funding is out there and if there is no grant funding hopefully there is um you know and if it's something that I think is advantageous it's it would be something that I would bring to the town for renewal. All right. Thank you very much.

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>> Thank you. >> Hello, Eric Zman. Church Street Platitudes and great jobs and all that stuff. Um, I really do think you're a very good asset to the town. Um, but I I

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think it's very clear that there are a lot of concerns about, hey, we put up some surveillance cameras in town and no one knew about it until we put up the surveillance cameras in town. That doesn't feel very good. Doesn't feel

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very natural or normal. Feels like maybe not that you someone was trying to hide anything per se cuz they're out in the public. There's no hiding it. But that, you know, maybe there was some understanding that this isn't really

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very popular. I don't know. Um, but I I think it's very clear that that's there's some strong feelings about this. Um, what is the I I didn't look through everything. I've looked through quite a bit, but can't read everything. What is

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the current retention period? Because I know it said there were three choices, three levels or whatnot. >> 30 days. And then after 30 days, is it the one that it's purged forever, can't be retrieved, or it's purged, but it's

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not really purge. We can we can pull it back if we need to. >> Awesome question. One of the things I just put up on the information portal today was the uh kind of a larger document from the uh uh data deletion after retention period. So, it's a paper

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that's put out by AWS. It explains their complete data deletion process. specifically for the flock product. >> Right. So, but there's there was the it gets deleted like it or there's another one. Yeah, it gets deleted. People can't

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really choose it, but it still stays on the server. >> I don't know what you're talking about. >> All right, I'll >> if I can help. Sure. If it's deleted, it goes into the trash can, but you can still go and have your So, you might be deleted so that it goes to the trash can, but it can sit in the trash can for

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another 30 days until you go empty the trash. >> So, this is nothing like a a Windows operating system. This is done by Amazon Web Service on the government side. So, not only does it get deleted, the fact that it gets deleted is deleted. >> So, it's a delete delete. >> And I think there's another level of

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delete the delete the delete. It's it's in there and that's beyond me. But it talks about all of the different levels of deletion that's that's there. >> And excuse my Thank you. Excuse my ignorance on the entire pro program. This is not something I've delved into

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prior to the last week or so. Um ADLR, right? Automatic drivers like no >> ALPR. >> Yeah, that sorry. Um, so it just records driver's. That's all that it captures.

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>> So the ALPRs capture the vehicle and the license plate. >> Okay. What about Cuz it's on the street. What about people walking past on the street? >> So the one that's out front is a surveillance camera just like that. It's in every other surveillance camera that's you see around the town.

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>> Okay. I mean that that again it seems problematic and a bit of an invasion. Although I understand it's on a public way, so it's not really private. It's a public way. But you bring up an enduser agreement and I

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rudely apologize commented before that. Yes, but I didn't agree to that enduser agreement. You did for me. Um the we're trapped all the time and often

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time I mean Apple knows where I am right now as do a bunch of other things that I clicked on that I said I was okay with. But people just go back and forth all the time. And that is essentially feels

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like I don't know a legal definition infringing upon their ability to move about the town, the state, wherever without being tracked. Because as much as we can say, "Oh, you need a really good reason

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to see it or whatever." Point being, the most valuable thing in the world right now is information. And that's just more information on everybody that no one consented to. So, two things. One, we're talking about

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this end user agreement. So, that is about an emergency situation that is about public uh about court process. That isn't about enduser agreements for driving around or using your phone or whatever it is. That's not what any of the end user agreements talk about. They

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talk about court process. They talk about emergency situations. They're just explaining that in an emergency or court process, they are uh required if not, you know, required. >> I understand that. But what I'm saying is that you said you were okay with

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that. you agreed to the enduser license, but it affects me as I drive my car or walk down the street in court proceedings. I know if you they always say if you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about.

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Yeah. Again, I I'm sorry, but it's not it's not my job >> to trust all the powers that be explicitly that no one or nothing could ever go wrong or take advantage of anything. >> Um, and I just think it's,

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you know, people if it records things, oh, we have demonstrations or whatever. That's why I asked about does it record just license plates? Surveillance is there for one specific reason and that is to essentially

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curtail activity. Whatever activity you want it to be, surveillance curtails activity. And people get people get nervous. Well, I don't want to protest or I don't want to whatever because I'm on camera and I could get caught up in something that I'm not doing or whatnot.

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It's it's it doesn't feel comfortable. As much as I greatly appreciate your >> the service you do, I've always said I don't go to work with a revolver on my hip. So, you know, thank you very much

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for that. I don't have to. You do. Uh but I I there are some things times or maybe I disagree with things that happen. >> That's what makes this country great. >> So, appreciate that and I appreciate your comments. >> Thank you. >> Thank you.

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Daniel Peterson, five Groveland Street. Uh, Chief Gil, I first wanted to say I had the opportunity to meet with you oneonone late last year when I renewed my LTC. I came away from that feeling like you were a great police chief. Respect you and think, >> oh, now [laughter] >> I still think you're a great police

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chief. I think you I think you're working in the interest of public safety. I do have concerns about the contract as it's written. I think you know Flock did present to you uh it's very carefully chosen wording of how data is going to be preserved. Um I

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think the caveat about raw footage uh not being included in that customer data is an important one even if that does get fed into an MLM um or any kind of other AI. I think we don't I think they specifically are only defining the data as what you request back from them.

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everything else seems to be retained by flock. Um, you know, I think a lot of us have kind of lost count of the number of times our data has been compromised. Uh, for me personally, I'm a molecular biologist. Uh, I went to 23 and me. Um,

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you know, I gave them the license to use my data because I thought, you know, if it's going to help cure a disease, that's fine with me. Um, recently they were sold. that data package became part of what was sold or it became part of a bargaining chip. Um so I'm certainly worried about you know flock eventually

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being able to sell or distribute that data uh you know that data being compromised in other ways. Um, so I do think we have to be very mindful of the contract versus kind of the public facing uh what flock is giving you. >> And I appreciate that comment and just

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to clarify one of the things um so none of your personal information is we don't we don't learn any personal information through the system. >> Yeah, I don't I don't believe that you do. I believe that flock is probably we can use AI models to model behavior uh based on the data that they collect.

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That's I mean that's what an AI surveillance system would do. So >> appreciate it. Thank you. >> Thank you, >> Mr. Chair. I think that is part of the the bigger concern is the AI issue >> and and this whole thing about data

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being saved. Okay. So I guess my question would be uh listening to everybody else's is okay. um you've gotten a phone call from uh Bolton and they said, "Hey, we're looking for a

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white Camaro ABC123." Is So, how do you know they are who they are? I mean, I I I know that you have a system to verify who you're talking to. >> Yes. But if you can kind of like provide

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like a quick overview as to how so that they they would know that you're verifying who you're talking to before you're saying yes, white Camaro ABC123 was on Main Street on Thursday,

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April 15th at 300 p.m. heading whatever direction is that way. So uh so what we would do I mean >> east [laughter] okay east. >> Yeah. So if there's any question about who we're talking to we we have with uh

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multiple different ways to do this. Um if if it's somebody that is locally here you know amongst our you know 10 communities whatever it is we're generally going to be able to figure that out relatively quickly. Um we're small enough where we know everybody around here and and those calls are

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generally going to be made by detective bureaus. for the who >> detective bureaus. >> Okay. >> You know, going from detective to detective. There's a possibility that it could, you know, something that's emergent that um would reach out to uh one of us. Um and in our policy, we have

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the we have the the agencies that are connected through the flock flock network in Massachusetts and then the ones that don't have it, they're not. So they would have to provide us with the same uh information that we would need to input into that system and and get it

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documented that way. Um so that's that's basically it. >> And and when you I'm assuming you're providing a copy of that image and if so when you provide a copy of that image are you cropping out

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the people on the sidewalk? So all what you're getting is a picture of the license plate and a picture of the car. >> Okay. >> Um that's uh you know in one of the videos it'll actually it'll show you what is is revealed there. Obviously the

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surveillance cameras are are different. They're just they're surveillance cameras. >> Okay. >> I think that I mean it's a lot of it I think it's the AI issue. one the the surprise of you know cameras went up but I think a lot of

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this has to do with AI concerns too >> because this is it's gone crazy AI it's going to take over we all know we've seen the movies let's be honest Mr. Chair and Chief, just some of the

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scuttlebutt I've heard is you hear surveillance cameras in downtown and my image that pops up is someone's at the police department with 50 screens monitoring all these cameras. We certainly don't have the the personnel to do that, nor would we want to. It's

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not a good use of our money. >> So, I just wanted you to address that. I mean, that for some reason comes to my mind. Yeah, I mean and and yeah, we don't have the the the personnel to do that. Um what it's

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generally it's just it's like there's surveillance cameras that are in this building, >> right? >> Um when you walked in here, um they uh just if you need to access it, you go to the recordings and access it to figure out, you know, whatever you're investigating. >> Yeah.

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>> Okay. Um, >> maybe someone who hasn't spoken yet. >> Hi. >> Thank you. >> I'm Carolyn McCur, uh, 6 what you said Avenue East. I just have a question. Um,

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how useful do you think this is to this particular town? um you know uh are there are there lots of incidents that you haven't been able to solve that that this would help? >> Um great question.

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We have a we have a lot of uh you know we do have a lot of unsolved crimes. Um you know I we've had some major crimes in town that I know that this would absolutely prevented a murder. Um, you know, but we've had, you know, multiple

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uh, you know, crimes that don't rise to the level of murder that um, you know, this this very well could, you know, be the the the key that, you know, gets us closer to that. Um, but that's what this first year is about is to determine is this something that's useful to air. Um,

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and uh, you know, that's what we're looking for. >> I mean, it's a real balancing act. >> Yeah. And that's really why I I wanted to tailor our guard rails to to you know to make sure that we have those in place

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um to you know for this for this program to be successful and safe for our citizens. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Wanted to show everyone else had a chance before I came. >> Hi.

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>> Good evening everyone. Um, [clears throat] my name as you know is Pauline Connley and I live at 40 Cambridge which is nothing but a dirt pile [laughter] >> for a few more days couple weeks. Um, we've known each other a very long time.

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I'm going to ask some procedural questions. I'm not going to repeat what others have said about the contract, but what the young lady said is correct. We are in a bind with this contract. It's called a contract of adhesion. We had no say in

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any of the language of that contract. My only question about the contract is, and I think I know the answer, but let's get it out there. Did town council review it? >> I didn't find anything that said they did. >> Yeah. >> Okay.

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So I would immediately request if we ever go forward with this in a renewal that they do and that we have input in what it says to clear up some of the inconsistencies that I saw there and that's down the

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road sorry procedurally however and this I got all of this off of your bottle not bottle Ow. Ow. The check was it we there are two

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contracts. There's the grant contract which has to be performed on by August 31st. That's the burn memorial grant. That's a separate document. >> Yep. We had to complete that. >> We complied with that by paying that um the invoice that Quark sent in December

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or October, I'm sorry. We paid it December 18th from a source of money I don't recognize. I have never heard of in all my years if they have money in this town unreserved

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cash. Could I please get definition? >> Mr. Sure. I I I don't know what your I have just >> I think that came from our accounting mechanism or whatever. >> Yeah, I would chat and which I will do.

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I can follow up with accounting. >> That would be great because that question has been raised outside the portal on various websites, >> right? And I and I know you can appreciate it would be great if you and others would come right to the source and we can get the information instead

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of the public input. >> Well, >> I'll get you the answer. >> No, that's fine. >> You're saying you're notifying me, Paulie. >> I am trying to present questions that I have read from the documents the chief put on the portal >> eight days ago.

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>> The eight. >> Yeah, eight days ago. I can speak to that just as an accounting mechanism. If we know we have a grant coming in, we'll take money from a reserve fund and then we >> that way we're not taking out of the actual line item and that it's a better accounting system for grant funds.

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>> And that makes perfect sense to me, Carly. I understand all that. But there is a person out there >> um flock.info who is saying this money cannot be accounted for. >> Well, he he or she I know. Yeah,

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>> but the public in air is reading this portal or this this document >> and this is an opportunity to clarify it so that we don't look like we've done something wrong with the people's money. That's all I'm saying. >> And I can assure you we have not done anything wrong. >> I believe you completely. I believe

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everything being said at this table completely. Um so the next question pertaining to the funding, we've paid the flock bill. have we now build I think the group is OGR for the grant money because that's the

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next step in the process from what I read and I don't believe I have that here um the contract sign or maybe it is but once we pay upfront once we pay upfront we then bill the

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grantor for reimbursement and since there's no document I'm guessing that has to happen Yeah. So, this is the standard contract. >> Oh, yeah. >> So, >> this is us >> with the state or with >> with the state. They're the they're the

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ones who manage the grant. >> Okay. But at some point in the hopefully not too distant future, we'll get that 25,000 because we paid the bill as we were required to do. >> Yeah. And those funds are to they'll be sent via wire right to the treasurer

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directly and she's out at school this week. She should be back in Thursday. we can confirm >> and that's great and then you can post it on the portal so that everybody knows the grant was paid >> I don't know where but somewhere um so

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that's the funding part for prior terms there are multiple definitions of the term term in the block contract we know that grant contract is a different set of terms so and I go back to this bill

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I didn't highlight this but your eyes are better than mine. Term means the date. This is from the clock contract. The date unless otherwise stated on the order form upon which the services are operational as I understood from last meeting.

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They're not operational at this point. >> This the entire system isn't fully operational. >> Right. >> I remember the meeting >> is isn't fully operational. We're still waiting for the final equipment to put in. The first camera was installed in

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February if I remember from your portal. >> Uh that's right. Y >> I Well, if I'm wrong, I'll be surprised that I read it from you. I wouldn't have gotten the date otherwise. >> And then there's another definition of term and termination in the

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flock contract unless otherwise indicated on the order form. The term shall commence upon the first installation of flock hardware, which is why that date is important. So arguably taking that language and the definition,

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our term of this contract is February 2026 to February 2027, not October to October or August to August or any of the others. I think that needs to be clarified and then maybe put up there

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because there are other definitions, but these are the two most inconsistent ones in the flock contract. And that's only that's a loophole. I know you can open a contract of adhesion. But we really need to know when our $25,000 runs out

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basically, which brings me to my second favorite topic, funding. um to it. You spoke, it was very hard to hear. I'm sorry because of the air conditioners, but um you spoke earlier about seeking other grants if they're

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available to fund the next two one two or three years. >> Yes. But if not, if I presume what you said is, if I'm correct in what I presume, you would then bring it to town meeting for approval.

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>> Yes. For a grant or for funding? >> Funding. >> So, >> just like any other contract, you No, Mr. Pumpre, we would not be >> say anything. >> I know you shook your head. That's why I asked. >> Um, I I'm not sure of the mechanism. I mean it's if it's a grant funding I

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don't it's not >> I'm presuming >> take the grant concept out no grants available we have no more money we want to carry forward this >> so town funded a town funded program >> it would have to be a town funded

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contract >> oh absolutely it would be it would be something that we would you know it >> I would imagine it would be spotlighted on the one of the uh fincom meetings that >> capital planning fincom um town meeting, all of that. Yeah. >> We probably come out of the omnimous budget because the capital there's no

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real capital. >> Well, I don't know. Do we we don't we will never own the equipment? >> No. >> All right. Well, okay, fair enough. So, at some point in the future, absent any other grant funding, the taxpayers will decide whether we go

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forward by funding or not funding the program. >> Do the taxpayers always decide funding? >> Not on a grant. Well, I think we just didn't we just say that we're talking about >> I just want it said I want I've told

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this to so many people. I want at least acknowledgement that what I've told them is correct. If we have no other funds available, the funding for this program will come to the taxpayers at town meeting for approval

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>> via the absment. via the advancement >> whatever >> the omous sorry or in the police department budget but somewhere in there. >> Yeah. So if if if I I think I understand the question and if I >> I'm sorry if I confused you.

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>> No. >> So you know if if we find a grant we're going to use grant funding to fund. If we don't and I feel that this is a program that the town of mayor should invest in um then that will be you know crystal clear in our budget that this is

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what you know this sum of money is for and then that is something that uh which goes through the the the whole process the the normal budgeting process which ultimately ends at a town meeting. Thank you for making that clear because this

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>> and if I miss if I misspoke. >> No, I'm I'm glad to hear you say that because the one thread throughout this is taxpayers had no say in this. Well, there's truth to that, but going forward we may.

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>> Uh yeah, >> wonderful. I'll be back if there's any more questions. But thank you very much. I appreciate all your help. >> You got it. >> Thank you all. And please, >> can I may I please encourage these folks? We're here all day. Trust me, I do the office.

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>> They won't listen. >> Yeah. I mean, the Facebook chatter. >> It's a >> It's just frustrating how much inaccurate information is out there, but we're here all day to answer questions. Please call us. Please email us. All of us. The department heads are right here.

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We're not scary. We're really not. So, if you have questions, instead of popping it up on Facebook to stir the pot, come ask us first. We may not agree, but we will give you the accurate information. >> And I try almost every time I answer someone, go to the meeting. There's a

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meeting tonight. There's a meeting tomorrow. Go to the meeting. Ask your question. Well, I can't. Right. >> Anyway, thank you. Thank you. >> All right. Um, Bruce, Max Schultz.

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Um, I might have missed some of this. Um, cuz I came in late, but you can tell me if it has already been answered. It's sort of more the technical side. I pictured Carly, like you said, it's not, you know, banks and then and somebody watching it. That's what I was wondering

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if the flies are hot. >> So, the how will the flock cameras interface with the present system in our police department? There have been glitches in our in our police department. We've missed

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recordings and I wonder if that's going to happen with the flocks or their own special system. >> Not sure I know how to answer that question, but I'll try my best. Um it is uh a flock safety system um

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that is accessed and uh data that's recorded is there. >> So well was this use the same internet that we have? I don't know what the what the currently use in I know you have your own recordings and things will

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integrate with that at all. I think what she's trying to say is is it going to have its own designated monitor? >> Is it going to have its own designated database machine? I mean, >> use the visual of like the old computers. Is it going to have this one

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is only for clock? >> So, I guess the the the best way to describe it is it's a separate uh it's a separate datab. It's a separate recording al together. There's nothing that is recorded locally uh here

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in the PD. It's uh in the uh AWS cloud >> where I'm sorry >> the AWS cloud. >> Okay. >> And that's where the data is at. >> So nothing will come into the air please station is >> well that I I don't know what that that's I don't know what that question

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means. >> Okay. There's no hardware. >> There's nothing there's nothing that's going to reside at the police department. Okay. Access if they're needed. >> Correct. >> Okay. On will the present policeman have to

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undergo training so they can respond to this flock system? >> Great question. Just put it up on the FAQ tonight that uh that was one of the questions I kept hearing as well. Um that uh there's uh user training that everybody has to go through and then depending on your role of the police

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department that there'd be more advanced training. you know how to make you know either uh how to maintain the whole system or how to do uh be an administrator detective would have different levels. >> So >> do you do you have to contract with flock to get that training?

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>> No. >> Okay. >> There it's just part of this part of the training that they uh they continually offer. >> Okay. All right. Is there a protocol or will there be a protocol on how to respond to the flocked

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cameras and will our police and have training in the protocol? >> Yes. >> Okay. There is a protocol. Is there policy? So we have we have policy >> um that that uh governs our police

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police officers and how they use the program. >> Um and the training that they receive talks about how to use the information that they would get from flock safety to then move to the next step. So uh without

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boring everybody. So it that that is a piece of information that we then have to independently verify and that it's accurate. Okay. Um, will we be able to access protocol as individual members of the community?

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>> So, up there is the uh policies of the air police department uh on the license plate readers and the cameras. >> Okay. All right. And then how are the records kept and managed and how and will any of

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them kept locally in air or do they all go to that? No, everything's in the in the cloud. So that everything's in the cloud, the AWS cloud. >> Okay. >> Yep. >> All right. And well, bottom line, will this require another employee in the

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town? >> Great question. I actually heard that was I didn't get a chance to put on the FAQ. No. No. the um it's it's actually if this saves as much time as

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is expected that this will actually help in you know in employees you know so it's um it's like another set of eyes out there that is you know not not a full-fledged employee so >> will there anything we have to worry

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about well you pass the you pass the flock camera every two hours. We know you're suspicious now cuz if you're a drug dealer or anything, >> and that's and that's kind of in line with it's tracking me everywhere I go. So, we're we only use this if we're

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investigating an incident. So, if we have a uh let's say somebody breaks into a house and um we have an I you know we have an idea of a time frame and possibly do we have a you know maybe a make of a car or color of a car we would

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then put you know put that in and try to determine if that gives us a piece of information to then go to the next step and use it as a lead. >> Okay. All right. Thank you. >> Thank you. All right.

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Well, if you've spoken before, I do want to keep it brief. >> Yeah. >> Just to keep the meeting mo, but we have >> Yep. >> Uh Billy Holler, uh 25 Circle responded to you. >> You did. You did. I appreciate it. Um

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and I saw that some of your uh FAQ questions addressed >> Yeah. >> some of the questions I had. Um, I was wondering if you could talk about what you envision for the audit process, your internal audit process to make sure that the tool is being used appropriately

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>> and what I guess uh you you kind of alluded to that. >> So, so I imagine you'll do you'll do self audits of pulling the system records, doing self audits, making sure all the correct information is being put in, making sure that it's being used. um

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actual active cases. Um and I assume that either Flock or other police departments in the area would also show up in those records as well. Yes. >> And so you could go through and say, "Okay, these people are accessing it. These people don't look like they're

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using it correctly." And try and rectify that. So yeah, there's there's organizational audits and then there's the network audits. And what my uh what the plan is is to to have this done on we're going to start off with a monthly

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>> and find out what that what that looks like. >> Okay. um and uh using the tools that Flock offers in helping the audit um that you know uh using AI if it's it's it has um the ability to kind of detect

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if somebody you know is an entity that's seems to be running uh the same plate over and over again or uh some other anomaly that it would alert us to to just kind of like look at and you know probe more deeply into. Um but the uh the inner organizational audits is where

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we'd be able to make sure that uh it's connected to an invest it's you know it has a case number things like that that it's uh >> okay and those are done by the deputy chief >> deputy chief is going to oversee it >> at this point. Yeah. >> Okay. Good. And then the the other question I had was as part of this are

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you intending to um replace any equipment that you're currently using or mothball anything? I'm just imagining that if we find after a year that the system isn't working as we like, if anything was replaced or removed, going back to the old system

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could be more challenging. >> Um, so this is this system stands alone. >> Okay. So, we're not replacing any of our existing cameras or Y anything like that. >> Okay. >> Nope. Um the you know the the um

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just yeah it's it's completely separate from any of the systems that are either you know around town or privately owned. >> Okay. All right. Great. >> Thanks. >> Thank you. Okay.

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We can keep this one or two minutes. Appreciate it. Thank you. >> Uh Luke Inis 19 William Street again. Um, not a question so much as just a statement for public record. Um, I for myself and for people that I've

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talked to, I do not think that the concern is that the air police department is going to misuse this data. I think most of us believe that the air police department is here with the best

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interest of the people of air at as their top priority. I think the concern is because of some of the vagueness in the contract. Um, which I am rather astounded was not reviewed by town council. I didn't even think that

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that was something I had to ask. Um, we don't really have control over the who who gets the data. That is up to Flock. Flock is currently

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in the running for a contract with the United States Department of Justice. The FBI is seeking a company or companies to provide this service nationwide. So, Flock has a vested financial interest in having these cameras in as many towns as

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they possibly can in order to win this contract. I do not think based on the vagueness of the data handling policies in the contract that they would have any problem sharing our data with the federal government if it led them to win

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that contract or a portion of that contract supposition but I don't think outside the realm of possibility. Um that's all. Thank you. >> Thank you. All right.

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Anyone else? All right. Well, thank you very much, Chief Gil. Appreciate you being >> My email is pdchiefairpleas.gov. If anybody has anything, uh, just shoot me an email and I'll try to answer it and the best way I'm going to do is is

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get it up on the FAQ so everybody gets the answers. >> Thank you. >> Thank you so much. achieving. >> I do want to highlight, you know, he was here answering all the questions best to his ability. He's putting his information out there. So, you know, uh

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we we do appreciate that. Okay. Um moving on, we have uh Ray Freedellander um to talk about the uh IDFA board of director appointments. >> Wonderful. through the chair. Thank you

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to the select board for consideration of the five applicants we have before us this evening for the Industrial Development Financing Authority. Um all five applicants um are in attendance at tonight's meeting. uh if there's questions that the board has regarding

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any of their specific qualifications. Just to give a quick background, back in March of this year, the select board uh unanimously approved the reactivation of the IDFA in addition to $1 million of UDAG funds that could be managed by the

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IDFA uh with oversight coming from the select board once the business plan, the newly um newly improved and amended business plan the IDFA will consider is approved by them. Um so that way there'll be some oversight from the select board and the community on the

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use of those funds. Uh the IDFA is not new to air. It was something that was started over 30 years ago and had huge significant positive impact for the businesses in our area. So very exciting to see um local interest from our air

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residents to get the board back up and running again. The IDFA is overseen by the state and there's specific requirements for the board members in order to participate. Um, two members can be at large, but then three of the other members, one has to have municipal

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government experience, one has to have real estate experience, and the other finance. So, we're happy to have found um air residents or recruited air residents that meet um those qualifications. We started recruitment back in March and um before you this

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evening we have our um five applicants for your consideration. I'm happy to answer any questions and we're hoping uh with uh tonight's consideration and approval that the first meeting dependent on everyone's schedules can happen in August.

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>> Questions? >> Nope. I think this is great and I'm looking forward to this getting up and running. Yeah, >> thank you. >> Absolutely. Um, and I want to thank everyone that has um has their name on

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this list. >> So, I'd like to make a motion that the select board appointing people to the Industrial Development Finance Authority. Damian Thompson for one-year term. Marissa Rivera, two-year

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term. Robert Depiio, three-year term. Jenny Lake, a four-year term, and David Cyro, a five five-year term. And if I mispronounced anyone's name, I apologize. >> Second. >> Good. All those in favor? I >> I >> chair says I. Congratulations, everyone.

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And thank you. >> Thank you. [applause] >> Rachel, you could introduce each of the members because they're pretty much all new to UNISO. >> Good idea. >> And they're here. >> They're here. They've sat through. Damian. >> Hi everybody. >> Hi

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>> Jenny. >> Hi >> Rob. >> Hi. >> Uh Dave, of course we know. >> And then Marissa um on the screen. >> All right. >> Great. Thank you all. >> Thank you very much. >> Excellent job, Greg. >> Great job. Thank you.

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>> Okay. >> Well, that was quicker than the last agenda item. [laughter] >> Okay. >> 10 people left. You're not going to be here when I go to, you know, so >> I'll still be here. [laughter] Okay. Uh,

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moving on to the town manager report. >> Mr. Chairman, uh, members of the select board, good evening. Uh, you have in your packet the warrants that were approved since the select board last met on June 2nd. Um, in the interest of time, I'll get right to the action

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items, but of course, if there are any administrative questions from the select board, be happy to answer those. The first item under appointments um recommending on recommendation of the Air Conservation Commission, I'm

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respectfully recommending that the select board vote to appoint Mr. Andrew McGregor of Air to a term to expire on June 30th, 2028. Mr. McGregor will fill the vacancy of Mr. Mark Phillips, who resigned recently due to the fact that

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he's moving out of town. And I publicly want to thank Mark Phillips for all of his service on the conservation uh commission. He will be missed. Mr. McGregor was interviewed and recommended by the air conservation commission. You have in your packet also a memo from the

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conservation agent, Miss Heather Hansen. So recommending appointment. [laughter] >> He is here. >> Yes. >> Very good. Um no question. >> You want to say anything? >> Yeah. if you want to. The floor is yours if you want it.

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>> Um I'm just saying happy to be here and I'm happy to serve the rest of the term. >> We're happy to have you. >> Works for me. [snorts] >> All right. I'll make a motion that the board appoint um Andrew McGregor uh to the Air Conservation Commission in the

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term to expire on June 30th, 2028. >> Seconded. >> All those in favor? >> I I chair says I. >> Congratulations. >> Congratulations. Thank you. [applause] Congratulations. Um the next item is actually a change of an existing um committee. As the board

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is aware, uh you authorized and appointed the sustainability committee um last year which uh consisted of representatives um that included resident volunteers. that also included um employee um representatives. In

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talking with the conservation agent, Miss Hansen, and research that she has done and feedback, and she you have her memo in your packet, um we're recommending just that the board vote to change the committee membership to just

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five resident members. The conservation agent will be the staff support and the exeicio of non voting. Um the of course the town personnel that were on the committee will remain as a resource to the sustainability committee but in

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working with the MVP program and so forth they would really like to see the sustainability committee be resident volunteers complete. The three members, resident members that are currently on the sustainability committee would

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remain and we would add we'll advertise for two more seats. >> Okay. >> And the appointments for the three that are remaining are still they've all been there's they were renewed as necessary

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recently. >> Correct. One of one of them was I think under appointments part one. Yes. Okay. >> Yep. because I know at least one of them would have had the one year. >> We we did that actually in February. That's when the committee was created. So, we probably at some point have to revise those. Probably this coming

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February, we have another one come up. We'll probably have to we'll work to change it to make it into June. But yeah, >> when we created the So, when we created the committee, it was done in February. So, when those terms were done, I think they were done a February term. So, this past February, you did one and they were

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done for a one, two, and threeear term. So I think what going forward what we'll have to do is when we create the new ones we'll do them for the 30th and then as the new ones come for reappoint we'll just change the date to the >> extend the current to the June 30th date and then make sure they were all in that >> Yeah. >> Yeah. staggered schedule.

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>> Okay. >> Any other questions? >> I make a motion that the select board approve the new recommendation on the sustainability sustainability

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committee. um as presented. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I >> chair says I. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> And then um so number three uh you have in your packet uh the annual reappoints

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for town boards, committees, and commissions that are under the select board. And this is uh part two of every year. um the memo put together by the uh assistant town manager and we're recommending your uh reappointment to

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the individuals and to the terms set forth in the memo. >> Um my only comment is uh capital planning isn't on this list. What's >> I have it in my memo on the second line?

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>> No, no, no. We're not there yet. That's item number. >> Oh, she has it in the in the verbiage of the letter in the memo. >> No, you're looking at the wrong thing. >> I'm looking at the wrong thing. >> So, in >> Okay. >> Yeah. So, you're talking about the other

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thing. >> I'm talking about the other thing. >> Yeah. Correct. >> Okay. Okay. >> I retract that >> appointment to make me remember jurisdiction. in a minute. >> Okay. Yep. I'm on the wrong page. I'm good.

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>> Okay. So, I'll make a confused. Um I'll make [laughter] a motion um that the select board approve the 2026 annual reappoints part two as presented. >> Second. >> Okay. All those in favor? >> I.

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>> Chair says I. And then the next item which I know is on the memo and I put together in my memo I did Mr. Chair inadvertently leave out the capital planning rep which is obviously currently you. So each year

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the board has looked at um your assignments to the respective boards committees that have representatives. So the air affordable housing trust his select board member Copelan the Devon's jurisdictional framework committee select board uh Livingston Devon's

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resolution select board Christovirus the executive by board is currently um not active at this time um the oped board uh was select member Copelan great review select member Livingston and capital

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planning was select member Taris so it's obviously if the board wants to make any changes. It's the perview of the board. >> I'm fine where I'm at. >> I'm very happy with mine. >> No changes. >> All right. No changes. Okay. Um the next

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item in the packet is the board's review and approval of a CPC grant agreement for the air affordable housing trust. Um this was approved, the funding for this was approved at uh town meeting back in April. I know that the board approved

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some uh grant agreements at the June 2nd meeting. Uh and this is one for the portion of money that was approved for the affordable housing trust and it would be for signature by the chair. >> Okay.

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Questions? >> No questions. >> No questions. >> All right. I make a motion that the board approve the uh CPC grant to the air affordable housing trust as presented. >> Second.

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>> All those in favor? >> I chair says I >> should I go ahead and chair? >> Yes. >> Um Mr. Chair, if there isn't any objection I'd just ask Mr. Jim Gerffy,

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the director of the Neshoba Boards of Health, just to come up to the table. Um, the next item is the board's review and approval of a intermunicipal agreement uh between the town of Air and the Nishoba Associated Boards of Health for financial uh support uh services. Um

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so the the the board's health uh through the director uh Jim Greffy approached the town um recently about an opportunity to enter into a intermunicipal agreement in which the town of air would provide um financial

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and payroll support services to the boards of health which they've had some recent retirements with their financial folks and so forth and there there's a need um for some support um in some of these uh efforts and those are all

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spelled out in um the IMA. We're talking about um the town treasurer, um Miss Tierney, um Miss Cooper, the accounts payable, I mean the town accountant, and Amanda Lewis, the benefits and payroll

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manager. um that would be providing some uh financial and benefits support to the Nshoboa boards of health for one year. Um the agreement um we would re-evaluate after a year and see if how things are

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working. Um in exchange for those um services the NHOA boards of health um will pay the town uh $20,000 um for for the year. This is a similar model to what we do for the Devon's Enterprise Commission where we uh do

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some work in support of their accounts payable warrant. Again, NOVA retains all of its authority and so forth. Uh we're just uh our folks would be providing support in that sense. Um upon approval

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by the board um Jim will be taking this to the executive board of the Nshoba Boards of Health on uh June 25th for their review and approval. >> Okay, questions. >> So I'm confused. We're going to they're

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going to pay us 20,000 but we're providing financial support >> for financial processing. So like >> Oh, financial processing. Oh yes, I'm sorry. Yes. like accounts some accounts payable work pay. >> So basically the administrative side and

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they're going to pay us rather than us pay them. That's where I got a little lost. I was like wait a minute. So okay that makes sense. >> Will this [clears throat] impact the pay for the treasurer accountant for

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>> so there will be um as it is with the um debits enterprise there will be a a small stipen for for each of them. um developed internally which a portion of that would come from the 20,000 but the majority would go to the town.

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>> Correct. >> No question. >> Good question. That's my question. >> Did I miss anything? >> Um then I'll make a motion that the board approve the intermunicipal service agreement for financial and payroll support services by and between the town

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of air and the associated board of health. Seconded. >> All those in favor? >> I. >> Chair says I. >> Thank you very much. >> Appreciate it. >> I'll give you this original agreement for your so they can sign it next week

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or whatever they need. >> Thank you. >> So they won't get lost on. >> Thank you all. Thank you. >> All right. So the um the okay I see

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>> you're at the CBC grant. No the letter the order of my memo at the agenda I think is a little so the next item per the June 2nd um email meeting of the board in your packet is a proposed draft letter um from the select board to the

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state legislative delegation Senator Eldridge and Representative Senna. um regarding the proposed changes to the super town meeting as submitted by the governor through legislation. >> So I think this letter was very good.

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>> Okay. Um of course I didn't write it so of course I'm it's not in my voice the way I want it said. So, but >> yeah, >> the I guess the only thing that I think may be missing is a if they change this

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super chain town meeting. They according to chapter 498, they can't have elections out on DevT. That's why everyone drives to air or Harvard or Shirley because they're it's not a municipality. Town meeting is an

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election. So I I if maybe we could like you know what I'm saying? >> I see what you're saying on those registered voters, >> right? So maybe adding that little piece, that would be my only uh recommended change

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>> just to kind of drive that home. U you know, you were literally >> she I it you know, it's really coming across that over the last couple years that the governor is trying to unilaterally make these decisions >> which is why we're not even given a

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heads up prior to, you know. Um so I think that if we drive that home even more >> so I would excellent point I would propose through the chair on the third paragraph one two three so the third

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paragraph which really talks about the minimization of voices and democracy and so forth that we put that as selectman Livingston brought up put that there >> the point about because it is that is that is the point that the legislation

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doesn't address is the register the election component of the town meeting. >> But if they in the part in quotations in the second paragraph, >> yeah, >> where they say mass development will be empowered to call a single meeting. So they're not calling it a town meeting, they're just calling it a meeting,

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>> right? that change the >> Well, that also it adds to what I'm saying is because they're making this change, you know, but they need our town clerks to verify that registered voters

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are in that room. >> Mhm. >> And and they're not supposed to have n that non-registered voters can't they can ask to speak, >> right? >> But they can't vote because our town clerks would be like, "No, you can't vote." You know what I'm saying? That

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that makes it an election. So they're they're going to change the name, you know? >> Yeah. >> They But but because they still need us, the towns, they're they're just doing kind of a circumvention. >> But if they're opening it to residents,

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and it doesn't have to be registered voter res, >> they can't. They can't. There's a non-citizen out there. They can't because then you have our town clerks. So they can't >> and because they do just say accessible

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to the residents of the towns, >> right? But in the in the proposed language, it they do say that they need our town clerks to go over there to ensure that only registered voters are out there. >> Yeah.

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Okay. So, adding that to the third paragraph. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> I think that's a good change. The rest I I have no issue with

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>> just one thing in the first paragraph. It says towns of air, Harvard, and what is your >> I missed that one, too. >> Spell. [laughter] >> I know. I don't know. >> You'd think I'd be able to pick that up quickly, too. No, I did. >> He spelled your name wrong.

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>> Well, I know he did. [laughter] I was going to call him out in public. He's got an R and an I thing going when he, you know, >> I've been called churs before. [laughter] >> You must have actually entered it into your dictionary on your word processor.

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So that's why it's not coming up anymore. >> I'll have to [laughter] check. >> Really? >> Yes. >> Is on page two, the first paragraph. >> Mhm. Should be exercise instead of exercise, right? >> Okay. Yeah, I meant to bring that up.

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Yeah. >> Yep. Exercise. Got it. >> Yeah. Yeah. And uh I did talk to Senator Eldridge last week and he was looking for this letter like tomorrow because he's meeting with Ways and Means

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Thursday. So if we can make the switches >> first thing tomorrow and then use the signature stamp so we can get it. >> It would also been nice if he had kind of let us know when the public hearings were so we could show up. >> Is there also on that same paragraph on

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page two? Is there a reason why we're saying at the end of that that um changes to zoning governing land and buildings in Harvard could pass without a single Harvard resident having voted on them instead of saying air? >> Yeah. Are you using that as an example? Did or did you copy Harvard's letter?

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>> No. No. I see this is why we do this review. That should be air and should be air. Yeah. It should read changes to zoning governing land and buildings and air could pass without a single air resident having voted on.

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Good catch. Yeah, I know. Uh Harvard was getting theirs out, I think last week. could be wrong on the date, but I know that theirs is going out. I don't know about what Shirley is doing. But I did

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actually see representative for Senator Cronin, one of his aids, um on June 8th during my tour, which I'll talk about later. And I did say to him because I was sitting next to him and I said, "Look," I said, "If you could relay a message to the senator for me, even though he's not my district and I'm not

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allowed to vote for him, but could he vote no on this because none of us like it." So I did kind of >> Yeah. >> put a word in [laughter] that way, too. >> You know, every chance I got. >> Yeah. >> Anything else on that?

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>> No. I'll make the motion that the select board approve the proposed change the letter to uh on concerns on the proposed changes chapter 498

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be approved as amended. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I chair says >> I. >> And Mr. Chairman, members of the board, if there isn't objection, if we could take up my number nine next, which is the approval of the one-day bingo

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license. I know that the friends of the Air Senior Center have been waiting. >> Are they starting to get antsy over there? >> And I and I know and I know they'll probably want to stay for the rest of my report, but [laughter] um if there's no objection, >> but they got to stay for mine.

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>> I'd have them come up for this is an approval of a one-day bingo license. Uh you do have a a memo in the packet from the friends from Carolyn, but through you I'll turn it over to Carolyn on >> Yes. >> Carolyn.

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>> Hi. Uh thank you for um accommodating us. Uh we um we've been diligently working to uphold our part of what we promised to do for the senior center and that is raise money. So, um, one of the

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suggestions from the group, um, and that we're really pretty excited about because we think it is is a bingo day and we will hold it on a Sunday afternoon. So, uh, it won't won't interfere with traffic and and parking and that that sort of thing. And um we

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believe that this is a really good community event, you know, not only to raise money but to raise awareness for the for the new center and to build to build community. So, um, we're asking you, so, so I have actually been in

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contact with, um, the charitable giving department of the Massachusetts State Lottery and um, we will follow their lead in how to actually do this properly. And the first thing they

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suggest is that we need approval from the town, from you guys. So, we're here today uh to ask you for approval to use the uh great room upstairs for this this event and maybe subsequent events. But

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if we can, you know, get this one under our belt, we'll see uh how charitable it is, how much money we raise and and if we can um do future uh such events. >> Okay. I actually mentioned this last

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year that we need to do a bingo day to raise money and everyone kind of went >> so I'm really happy that this has come forward. >> Yeah, I was I was shocked at how much these generate in revenue. I mean like this is great.

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>> Yep. So, yeah, >> we would just be I think it's a a great opportunity as Carolyn mentioned, we would be just looking for your vote of approval um for it to take place on October 18th >> or later. >> Or later. >> Oh, yeah. We're still working out details.

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>> Yeah. And they'll coordinate with Kari on that. And there's no issue. And it the game will be limited to 200 participants. That's based on the >> Is that the occupancy? Okay. >> So, get your cards early, right, Caroline? [laughter] And um it'll be on

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a Sunday afternoon from 1 to 4 here. So, as Carolyn mentioned, we just need the boards to take a vote of approval and we'll take it from there. >> Okay. >> I'll make a motion that the select board approve the one day bingo license for

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the Friends of Air Senior Center as presented. Second that. >> All right. All those in favor? >> I. >> Chair says I. >> Yeah. Thank you. Let us know when those bingo cards are on sale. All right. All right. We expect you to be there. >> I want to go >> with with pockets full of

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>> We'll return. >> Yes. >> I want to go. >> I been looking forward to a good bingo game for a long time. >> Okay, we're going back to number seven. >> Yes, >> I should have moved them up. I >> No, I I should have two vote.

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>> Yeah, I didn't take notice. So, um, number seven, uh, is the select board's approval of the home rule petition petition pursuant to the annual town meeting of April 27th, 2026. Uh, as the board's aware, there was a citizens

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petition um that was taken up at the annual town meeting on April 27th, 2026. Uh, it was presented uh with a presentation. Uh, it did pass town meeting. As the board is aware, this next step is is procedural. You have the

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letter um transmitt in your packet. Um the board would vote uh to authorize that letter with signature and we will submit that with the text of the home rule petition, the warrant from the meeting, and the certified vote from the

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town clerk. And then it goes to Senator Eldridge who will then and his staff will navigate it through the legislative piece of the home rule process. And they they usually update Miss Antineelis periodically and of course we'll keep the board updated as it moves through

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that that process. Then if when it passes the legislature it'll come back here and the real work will begin for the town to develop the appropriate bylaw. >> Okay. questions. >> I have no questions.

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>> I have no questions. >> So, make a motion that the board approve the formal petition pursuant to annual town meeting on April 27th, 2026 for the second generation anti-coagulant or venticides as presented. >> Seconded.

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>> All those in favor? >> I I chair says I [laughter] come on. And then the last item, sorry, let me just uh Okay, the last item is chair number eight, is a

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memorandum of agreement uh between the town of air and mass development for grant reimbursement costs. And what this is, as the board is aware, the Devon's jurisdictional framework committee originally secured a $300,000

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housing choice grant that was going to be used for a financial analysis of Devon's in related to Devon's disposition. The state, we were awarded the grant, the grant program, there has to be a

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municipality that's the administrative uh groper for the grant. and that uh was the town that is the town of air. The state then after the governor's housing choice um not housing choice governor's housing study that selected Copeland was

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on uh made some recommendations. They wanted to resend the grant uh because they felt that it was not consistent with the housing choice parameters even though they had awarded.

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So rather than the 300,000 being sent back to the state and reprogrammed to some other uh community, the myself and the town administrator from Harvard and Shirley and the superintendent of schools and select

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Livingston knows this and from the framework group. One of the pieces of information we need is a school needs analysis of the whole region. Air Shirley Harvard Debons um if Debbins was to be um go back to the T regardless we

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need all this information about the school piece. So of that 300,000 80,000 was uh is marked for the for that study. The other funding is Mass Development and the Devons Enterprise Commission are

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doing a full building needs assessment of all of the buildings on Devons, specifically Vixsburg Square, uh to determine so we can get all of that information which would help govern, if you will, the future of Vixsburg Square.

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There's a another study that mass development and the deck are doing on traffic flow and traffic patterns and the impact of growth in traffic on Devons in the region. So that's what this grant is all for. Mass development

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requires so what they require a memorandum of agreement so that we can reimburse them from the grant for those functions that they're doing. So think of this as a housekeep. not giving them any town of air money. We're just

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reimbursing their set portion of the grant because we manage the grant. Um, and they they require this agreement uh between Mass Development and the town. So again, it's it's an administrative requirement on their end.

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>> Okay. Questions? No. [clears throat] >> I have none. And Mr. Chair, the key point in the agreement, I think, to point out is that in the event that the town does not receive all of the grant funding,

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because it's a reimburseable grant, if we don't get all of the funding, then they don't get we're not liable for the money. I think it's on page two. >> Okay. I'll make a motion that the board approve the memorandum of agreement between the town of air Massachusetts

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and the Massachusetts Development Finance Agency as presented. >> Seconded. >> All those in favor? >> I I >> chair says I. >> Mr. Chair, unless you or the select board have any further questions, that

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concludes my report. I appreciate your time and consideration tonight. >> Thank you. Okay, moving on to new business. We have a uh micro grid tour presented by uh

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stockboard member Livingston. Thank you. That might need to be reloaded cuz we disconnected. All right. Oh, give me a second here. And wait for that to turn. Sorry. Where's the mouse? Is there a mouse?

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>> Can't stand that thing. Okay, there we go. I don't like it when it does that. Why is it doing that? I don't want the I don't want the note side. I don't know why it does that, >> but it shows the normal. >> Yeah, you're good.

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>> Oh, it shows normal up there. Oh, okay. >> Yeah. >> All right. So, so on June 8th, as part of uh the keep the lights on in Massachusetts, um that I've been talking about periodically over the c last couple

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months, I was able to tour a micro grid facility and uh it was pretty interesting. And so, um here's all of us. And so what we have here is representatives from Harvard, Lancaster,

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Schneider [snorts] Electric, um, American, I can't remember what's the name of it. Um, American Micro Grid Solutions, um, and one of them is the one of the aids to Senator Cronin. And there we are at Schneider Electric, um, who were

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giving us a tour of their facilities to show us kind of like how a micro grid would work. Um, I got to give a shout out to this uh facility. It was gorgeous. And I am so jealous because pretty much my entire career has been working in

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federal government buildings and I am so jealous of what these people get to go to every day. So, um, all right. So what this this is is the keep a lights on is as you know I I came forward a couple of months ago to talk

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about this initiative to create a micro rib in the town of air um becoming a part of a consortium with Harvard and Shirley and is it uh yeah and Bolton. They have currently signed theou that we

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signed um about a month and a half ago and Lancaster Clinton and Berlin are reviewing and preparing to sign. Um so as you can see this is the list of some of the people that were there and what the purpose of it is. Now Schneider

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Electric, if you want to kind of Google this, Schneider Electric helped create a micro grid on Myiramar when they had a bad power outage um few years back. they created this micro grid. So now that military installation doesn't have to

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worry about the power going off. Okay. So this is you know really something that is um quite something going on. Okay. So what it is is that they've created this what they're calling a hero and it's a hub for an energy resilient

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operations and what it and you wouldn't necessarily know it when you're passing by it. Um so the first thing is is they can be put in a school campus uh DPW yard water treatment facility uh public safety complex only on the land the town

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owns. Okay. It includes a local carbon-f free generation solar battery energy storage or as they call it best and smart micro grid controls. and it keeps the lights on. Power goes off and now the system's going to

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recognize the power's going off. Wait a second. What's going on? Power's back on. Okay, so this would be great. Now, initially it would stay it would be for municipal buildings only if we if we end up going forward on this. Okay, but you'll see where there's an

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advantage to not only doing this, but how it will help us going forward in the future. Okay. So, just give her a second to read it. Okay. Um,

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and the US Department of Energy has partnered with NextG Energy to develop these hero hubs. So, the federal government is for this, which is a benefit to all of us. Okay. So how it works is you know you have

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this you have a configuration package all right and and I so you have this transmission system or as they call it the front of the meter all right it's going to go to the distribution system which is going to distribute to critical facilities like our public safety

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facilities and then it will help manage all our municipal loads but there's also it will create a power market asset and and which will then feed into a sale marketplace. Okay. So, the idea is that we're going to if we go forward

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with this, we've got these solar panels wherever they're going to end up. Okay. Um so, for example, if if town hall ends up needing a new roof and we go to put a new roof, then why wouldn't we put solar on panels on top of it also to help feed

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into this? So, the battery is going to, you know, collect all the solar energy that we have, okay? and it's going to distribute as needed to the municipal buildings. So it would be the supplier which right now we have this conglomerate where we have a supplier.

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The distributor would still be National Grid. That part we can't get around right now. But our supplier would be us. So we're supplying our own energy. So initially you would be able to see expenses going down under the municipal

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government side which can benefit the taxpayer because they're then their tax payer their taxes can be either you know if if we can go down or used in other ways besides just power. Once the battery is full we've got

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created all we need. we can then sell some of that power which that means in the future if all goes well the residents can start uh becoming getting the supply so they're literally getting

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supplied by their own town then they're just paying national grid okay becomes an integrated train team okay so we have the next gen energy who they they're the one that came up with this they're working with American Micro Grid Solutions who would be the maintainer of

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this and who we would work with. They'd be making sure everything's going right and then Schneider Electric help helps create do the hardware and the software backbone. Okay. But it's it's not they're not working to for the for the man as they would call it. Um they'd be

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working for us. Okay. Now, how would this be financed? So you're [clears throat] bringing together municipalities, green banks, tax equity funds, yada yada. Okay. 60% of it is a long-term in infrastructure loans secured by physical

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assets and revenue contracts. So it's a mortgage on the infrastructure. Okay. 32% tax equities and ITC's. Private investor investors receive the federal ITC's generated by the storage assets

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and monetize the solar and storage assets depreciation and then it's 8% sponsor equity. We are participating as limited partners contributing equity um and we would co-own the asset. The idea it starts off as private

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capital and then it ends up being town ownership. So years one through five is you have your private capital phase, majority of the cash flow and the depreciation. We're limited [cough and clears throat] small partners, right?

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Year five ownership starts transferring and the investor can stick around if they want or they can completely exit. If they decide to stick around, they get a small percentage. So, for example, years one through five, it might be they're getting 97% of the income

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because they've invested into the infrastructure. We're getting 3%. It could flip that they could be the 3% where we're the 97%. Years 6 through 10 is pure is now the revenue. Okay. So this has the potential

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if goes [snorts] forward to create such a revenue stream that paying for the schools is no longer a [gasps] oh my god you know we might be able to actually pay for things better. Um we might be

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able to improve our roads better. All this revenue would be available. Okay. Um, so we're basically, you know, going to be able to pay ourselves for once, which also, which the town of does a great job. We're not necessarily reliant

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on grants and state aid and federal aid, but this would even help decrease some of that even more. So, we wouldn't we could really kind of be a little more independent, which is a pro and a con.

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Okay. So now here you I can't actually see it on the screen. Um sorry I thought it would come out a little bigger. So right now the feasibility and scoping assessment cost $37,500. When I first brought this conversation

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forward it was going to cost $75,000. But NextGen has just said no no we're so into this we're going to match it half you know dollar for dollar. So all the towns would only have to pay 375.

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If this grant that they applied for gets approved, there is the possibility that the town of air won't even have to pay the 375 because the grant will take care of it all. Okay. Um then you have the you know portion of

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construction will be small and nightly not require any cash outlay. um town [snorts] would contribute. Now, these are not numbers etched in stone at the moment, okay? Because the grant could change things. Town, how many

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towns decide to sign on could change things. So, just take it with a little bit of grain of salt at the moment, okay? Um, so we might contribute $2 million in equity through contribution of uh land lease contracts. Now, the

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nice thing about town land is we don't necessarily have to find a a piece of property on the town uh town property side that, you know, would be pretty in order to like build like the senior center. We can, you know, possibly use

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town property that really isn't good for anything except a solar panel. And really the only thing we need to worry about is will the ground hold the infrastructure. Okay. So, we this is really, you know, could

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utilize some of that stuff a little better. Um, and then as you can see, you know, your revenue is projected by a 20-year fixed year, a fixed price contract. Got cold in here all of a sudden. I'm sorry. Um,

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so one of the questions that was brought up when I was uh at this tour was that, you know, somebody says, "Well, how do you talk to the people about signing on for this when there's always going to be

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somebody saying, "Well, wait a minute. Let's wait for the next idea because it might be better." Well, history shows that that's where it might be better, it's going to cost more because by the time it's ready, you've passed up on an opportunity. So, what I said there was,

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well, what you do is you take this opportunity and it's like a highway. You're just going forward and all these other opportunities are merging into this. So when year 20 comes around and we decide whether or not again this is all saying if we if we do this year 20

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comes around and we've decided okay you know this has been great but we don't we're not going to do this part anymore because 5 years ago we came up with this opportunity and now that one's ready to go. So as we exit out of one we've come

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into a new okay because technology changes all the time. So there could be an opportunity coming down the road and we're not stuck. Now at the same time if no other opportunities come that comes up technologically wise or whatnot

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that's as good as what we're doing then we can still keep what we're what that project going for as long as we can. Okay. again producing I mean there's the possibility of a million dollars a year re extra

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revenue because we've gotten all the power we need and now we're like selling it to somebody. So, the first this top picture up there is an example of one of the um best units.

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Okay. So, it could it looks just like one of those pods you might get to put in your driveway um to store all your junk, right? So that has your your control system, your battery storage, and more importantly, it also has the fire

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suppression system, which it actually had been brought up as to what would happen if it, you know, goes up in flames, which is in the realm of possibility because we know batteries can sometimes explode. So, it already has that in there. This picture here is

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where they showed us how the power grid works and how when it power goes off, how it thinks, power goes off. So, it's an emergency generator is what you could think of. And then I just wanted to show all of us there cuz we're pretty pleased

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with ourselves. [snorts] >> Very nice. >> Okay. >> Can I ask a quick question? So, does it eliminate the need for our generators that we have? I don't know the answer to that question.

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>> I would say >> that eventually you would need those because this would take over. >> Correct. >> So where do we go from here? So right now we're waiting for the grant to be an winner to be announced. If it's awarded

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to nextgen then the whole feasibility and sustainable that word the FSA will be fully covered. Okay, that's the feasibility and >> thank you contract. It's really cold in here. I can't talk when it gets cold.

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>> Um so then it's August through September we go through the MSA plus phase and the south sign. minimum of six towns required for right now four have signed on and it looks like Lan I think Lancaster Lancaster was present I think they're

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going to sign and then I have no information about the other two towns that I mentioned at this moment okay I will update you as as accordingly September through November is when you would they would do site visits load analysis and you know working with DPW

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and doing all this other stuff as far as you know like where would be a site and see how this is going to work. Okay. And then there would be all the community engagement, town meeting, resident outreach, so that when it if and when it

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goes to town meeting, which all goes well, would be spring of 27, everybody's going to have been provided all the information they need to make an informed decision. And from day one, once it's constructed,

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town will receive below park ma market power from day one. So if we're paying 5 cents, we pay three cent, you know, whatever the amount. I use those numbers as an example. It was pretty easy. It pretty simple.

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The way that the grid work was set up and everything was really cool. I highly recommend you look into like I said I mentioned earlier Schneider Electric with Myiar and how they did that. Um American Micro Grid from the beginning.

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Um they've also been working down I believe I I remember correctly. I don't have it on my notes. Um Frederick County uh down in Maryland and whatnot. So these are the wave of the future. So, and especially up here in New England

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when we have these power outages, if this can get our emergency services especially up and running, that's a benefit. This is a big win for us. Okay? And it makes it'll make us more independent as far as we don't have to

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worry about, you know, agreements with another country or another state or anything because we'll already have it on our own. That's my plan. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> I will keep you posted.

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>> Yes. Thank you. >> Next order of business is the Air Affordable Housing Trust request for emergency funds. >> Well, I feel a little silly now. I don't do a PowerPoint presentation. >> Work on it all day.

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Um I just so um just kind of an update on the the housing trust. We've had over the last five years we've had a lot of success with our rental assistance program. Um we help I think we're up to 14 families a year um with rental

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assistance. Um but we're looking for other ways to assist and um one thing that came up is we already have a fund for fuel energy assistance but we'd like to do more with it. So, I want to request

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up to $15,000 from UDAG to go into this fund so we can start advertising it more and start using it for more um families. And then July 22nd's meeting um have a formal proposal for going forward what

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the funding source will be. So, we don't have a a >> We have Oh, we do have So, in the fund, um IC credit union gives us last year it was $2,000. This year it was $2,500. That doesn't really go too far. >> Okay.

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>> So, we kind of want to beef up the fund. Okay. >> Uh make it available to more people. >> Okay. >> Is there any mechanism? I was just going to ask so you know how

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do people find out about this and apply for it like >> Yeah. Um so like with our rental assistance program it was mostly advertised through um through social media on the town's page and we've had tons of applications. So it seems to

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really work well um through the office of economic development. Hey the chair here if there's additional questions. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Um so yeah so through the same. >> Okay. >> So Mr. Chair on one of the things

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talking to SL like member Copeland about a funding mechanism. So when we come back for the board's further discussion consideration in July, one idea could be yes, a a portion of

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the town's free cash each year could go towards the fund. That would be subject to town meeting approval. Another option would be um that we come up with an amount that would be a standing item in

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the omnibus budget as a budget line say under the office of community and economic development. A third option um that we is we receive an annual cannabis money. And so like we did with the meals tax, we developed a

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policy way back the local meals tax goes towards OPED and supplemented by free cash. We could uh potentially take a a portion of the cannabis tax and put this towards the fund. Again, that would also require town meeting approval. So we

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will that's the the piece for July 22nd is to just refine some recommendations on a funding mechanism >> and I think if if you could approve if we could approve some an initial UDA aotment that will give us time before

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fall town meeting to kind of get a better sense of how many people will utilize this program how many people can reach which will then >> give us an idea of how much money we should be requesting each year. Okay, because that was my next question. So, you answered it kind of like you know how many people are you looking to

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assist in >> and through the chair if I may. Uh the fund also is uh you know it supports uh fuel and energy um requests but it also helps with housing. So, if we have someone that comes into the community

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and they're unhoused and there's a cold winter coming, for example, it's been used in the past um to assist with temporary housing of that individual. And the way that it's managed just by an internal board within the town and so our community development program manager receives an application from an

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individual um often referred to the town by air police um or even national grid. Um, right now like that's a goal of the department is to assess like how can we actually better market and increase accessibility of this program. But then

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once that application is received, the community development program manager writes a memo to the internal board of town staff saying that we've received this request and then the members vote to approve it. And this is actually a practice that other communities do. It's not just unique to air. Um, so the

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amount of funding will also um I think help the community to decide like what other uses besides like temporary housing, fuel, energy um could be used like internet bills or cell phones or um things of that nature, too.

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>> Yeah, sounds great to me. Yeah, >> that would just be my, you know, one thought is making sure that it's known for the people that that need it, that it's out there as a resource. >> That sounds like that's what you're

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looking to do. So, that's great. >> Was 15,000 was the request? >> Okay. >> And there's nothing else we need to do prior to us me making this motion tonight, right? we can just make the

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motion for the UDAG funds. >> Um what I would suggest is under the open meeting law because it's not posted, we do it on the July 22nd meeting. >> Okay. >> So this is just >> and we'll have refined the permanent the

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regular mechanism as well. >> Okay. Y >> that makes sense. Okay. >> And I see may be able to come the beginning of the meeting to present the big check. So >> great. All right. All right. Very >> to that next next meeting. >> Thank you. >> Thank you.

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>> Hey, flipping it over now. We're on the back. [laughter] >> Okay. Uh approval. >> We on page two. >> Page 79. [laughter] >> Uh so approval of meeting minutes from June 2nd. >> Uh I don't think I noticed anything. >> No, I didn't see anything glaring this

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time. Make a motion that the board approve the meeting minutes from the June 2nd, 2026 uh select board meeting as presented. >> Seconded. >> All those in favor? >> I. >> Chair says I. >> Mr. Chair.

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>> Yes. If I may, I'd like to make a motion that the select board move into executive session pursuant to mass general launch up to 30 alpha section 21 alpha exemption number two non-union personnel parks director personal services contract and that we

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adjourn from executive session do not return to open session. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I I roll >> call right. Okay. So >> you can say I

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>> I will say I. Chair says [laughter] I. >> So we are in executive session. >> Executive session. Yep.

