Hello and welcome to the Tuesday, October 28th, 2025 meeting of the Air Planning Board. This meeting hearing of the Air Planning Board will be held in person at the location provided on this notice. Members of the public are welcome to attend this in-person meeting. Please note that while an option for remote attendance and or
participation via Zoom is being provided as a courtesy to the public, the meeting hearing will not be suspended or terminated problems in broadcast by law. Members of the public with a particular interest in a specific item on this agenda should make plans for inperson versus virtual attendance
accordingly. This meeting will be live on Zoom. The public may access the proceedings by joining Zoom meeting ID 9787728220 or by calling 929205-1699. For additional information about remote participation, please contact Danny
Ruiz, town planner at druisair.mma. US or 978772 8220 extension 144 prior to the meeting. First item of business is to approve the agenda. Do I have a motion?
>> Some move. >> Excellent. Do I have any uh comments or requests for changes, modifications, or we all good? >> Looks good. >> Ken, how do you vote? >> I. >> Kathleen. >> Nathan, >> I. >> Julie, >> yes. >> Sarah votes I. First item is our
continued public hearing for 12 Willow Road. I gentlemen, please approach. Can we have an extra tea chair here? >> Make sure. >> Okay, you're welcome to if you want. All
right, that's fine. Um Danny, what first storm water major storm water? What where do we start? Or we start the DPW comments. Where where are we? >> I think we should start with the DPW. All right. So, >> tell us about that, please. >> Matt um let me know that he was not going to be
able to join this meeting. So, he sent me an email basically to advise the board on the waiver request for the storm water. Um and in his email he states that um the
uh waiver he's okay with the waiver because the project is um he's the proposed project is making the storm water better for the site overall site. Um there is a there's a more um specific write up in your um in your packet if
you want to fully read through his um comments, but um it kind of runs down basically stating that yes. >> All right. So he got it backwards. Waiver request one is actually waiver request two.
>> Well, it was uh on the plan on the site on the actual site plan. I'm I'm >> Oh, okay. Because it doesn't quite match what I have here. So, >> I need your help. >> Yeah, it's because on the site plan the way it was shown and like that, but um on on here, the way I did it was it had
the one that I had already been voted on and then >> That's what I thought. We did the first one. Okay. >> Yes. But >> we did too. >> Well, they pulled withdrew, I should say. Y >> correct. >> Okay. >> Um my computer's just loading.
>> Oh, so we didn't have to worry about request number two. We already did that according to his email. We already did the uh the the the easement one. We already voted on 40, right? >> Yes. Yeah. >> So really what's left is the request >> uh for the design and we can number one.
Do you want to walk us through that or? >> Yeah, I'm trying to I don't know what's going on with the plan. It's like all fuzzy for some reason. Okay, here we go. Um, so the first I mean, so the waiver we're
discussing is uh storm water uh section 2.8. Let me uh All right, here you go. Storm water regulation sections 2.8- H- C1G requires that all storm water management
systems be designed to one retain the volume of runoff equivalent to or greater than 1 in multiplied by the total uh post construction imperous surface area of the site and or to remove 90% of the average annual load of
TS total suspended solage TSS generated from the total post construction impervious area on the site and 60% of the average annual load of the total phosphorus generated from the total post construction impervious surface area on
the site. The request was we request that the proposed storm water system only be sized to retain the volume of the runoff equivalent to or greater than 1 inch multiplied by the site uh impervious surface associated associated with the project and remove 90% of the
average annual load of total suspended solids and 60% of the average annual load of phosphorus generated from the areas associated with. So basically they're just asking for it for the new area because the previous area was kind of handled with um the existing basin
that's out there, but that's also a that's a a storm uh I mean a wetland now and there's a there's a whole host of things that go along with that. Um so we're only expand the the expansion is what's being done with this new storm water system.
>> So I have a comment. So I think part of this issue if I'm not mistaken Dan is when we wrote the language of the song regulations the use of the word project at that time is thought to be a new
project an entirely new project potentially and now we're looking at addition to a building. >> Yeah. So there's a there's a this is kind of there's there's a redevelopment one and then there's a new project one. So, this is kind of one of the ones that's not considered redevelopment
because >> they're not redeveloping the whole site and it's a new project, but it has an existing storm water system that they don't want to touch because there's >> more complications with that because there's an existing >> uh basin that's about 400 feet out past
the um further out from the project that services the current layout. >> Okay. So the new layout would be serviced by the storm water as it uh the new proposed storm water. So it's Jim right? >> Yeah sorry for the record. Jim Bil
Goldmith Preston Rainwell. >> So correct me if I'm wrong. So the new project has those subservice systems involved with it and whatnot. >> Yeah. Infiltration chambers. Yes. >> Should we read the DPW response to the
record of Um if you Yeah, if you want to read that somebody whatever. >> Yeah, I'll read it. So what what our town engineer Matt Hearn said is this. Uh a the applicant has demonstrated through calculations that the proposed stormwater infrastructure would
adequately capture and infiltrate treat the proposed impervious area. That would be the proposed building addition and parking lot expansion. B. The bulk of the site's existing impervious area buildings parking lot does remain. It does not appear reasonable, even feasible to apply this regulation for
the entirety of the site due to grades and high groundwater conditions. C. In conclusion, is DPW's opinion that this waiver request is reasonable compared to today's conditions? The applicant's proposal would result in a reduction in storm water runoff quality and b
improvement in storm water runoff quality. Um, so I think we need a a motion for the waiver. >> Did you say quantity in the first one? >> Yes, quantity and then quality. >> Got it. Thank you. I hope I said quantity. Yes, >> I believe it was quantity. >> Good.
>> I'll make a motion um that we wave the plan board wave the storm water regulation um section 2.8- C1G per the request of the applicant
according to the DPW's comments. >> Seconded. >> Excellent. Any further discussion? Hearing none. Ken, how do you vote? >> I on the way. Kathleen, >> yes. >> Nathan, I Julie, >> yes. >> And the chair votes I.
>> Um, so I just need to run upstairs because I have the decision open on my >> Yes. But I have the decision open up on my lap on my computer upstairs as well. So I can't edit it here. So I just need to if we can take a five minute. We're
gonna take a five minute recess. Thank you everybody. Thank you. with that. Should we mute on or usually whatever the music selection for us? >> I should. That would be a really fun
>> Yes. elevator music or Halloween music >> before I got here. But I don't think that's fitting for it. It put me in a positive mood though, so that really helps. >> At home, we have Taylor Swift going frequently, according to my 15-year-old.
Is that what that is? >> Speed puzzles. >> For who? >> Parks and doing a puzzle race. >> Wow. >> Which I was like, I could do that. I could do a puzzle with a group of people. >> You're quite a team player.
>> I like doing puzzles so much. So, I'm afraid I'd be like, you're going to mess it. >> There's an order and you need it to go in the certain way. >> Maybe it would be good to push you outside your boundaries. Is there prizes for upstairs? >> Yes.
>> More puzzles. >> Does the library do that too? >> What's that? myself. See how fast >> supposed to be GP, huh? >> Stick to the >> Oh, I do that one later. >> Maybe they had a reshuffleling of top
management >> online puzzles throughout the day. That's true. Goodbye. Okay, tell her we said hi. And thank you. >> Actually, Dr. Paddyy, I can ask you this now because we're on break. Um Elliot
would like to know why he's not allowed to speak at town meeting. And as a civic inspiration that you are, I was thinking you could help us come up with answers for him. feel easy. He's not a voting member of the town. >> No, but he feels that he has to live in this town and he should have some say
about how >> when I was 15 I agree with him. >> So just >> especially because in my family I was way smarter than many of you. >> Okay. Well then I will tell >> not to say that he has that problem. >> Thank you. I don't I'm smarter than him. So
>> since you're on a fivem minute break, I just really need to thank you guys for your service to the town. >> Appreciate all that you do. Um, thanks for checking in these matters because I know I don't got the time, energy, or knowledge. So, um, thanks a lot. >> Well, thank you. Appreciate you. Tell
Maggie we said hi. >> Yeah, >> we're pretty smart. >> We are. Elliot's smarter than me. >> If he's Yeah, Elliot's really smart. He's smarter. >> We just got compliment as being right. Everything is relative. That's a
relative word. All teenagers seem to >> tell you. >> All right, you got it. >> Good. Okay, we are the meeting has resumed. We're back.
Do I need this? Do I And he brought the music. >> Network is not working. What is going on now? Oh, there it is. Let's start with the site plan approval. Oh, you want to start with the site plan
approval? Okay, great. All righty. So, uh site plan approval, we have the following f findings. We'll read into the record. This uh the first finding, there's only three. The site plan contains a design that has provided the foundation for the
air planning board to determine that the requirements, standards, and guidelines of the town of air site plan regulations subsection 320-3.5.4 of the air zoning bylaws have been met in a satisfactory manner. Can we fix the uh satisfactory satisfactorially?
You see what I'm saying? >> Yep. Got it. The uh number two, the air planning board has determined the applicant has demonstrated compliance with the standard for grading and clearing the project uh proposed site set forth within subsection 320-9.6.2D. And three, the project site consists of
parcel ID 23-26 containing approximately more or less 7.44 acres, 324,273 square ft. The property is located within the industrial zoning district. The existing warehouse will remain in a 19,550 foot addition will be built. The waiver
re request we've already gone through and approved. We have the standard general conditions that that come with every decision. There are 35 uh 36 of those and uh just one special condition. The applicant shall submit for a
modification if any plan changes come from the conservation commission in the notice of intent process. And so just to update the board on that, the reason that that's been put in is so currently the um applicant is um we're going
through the conservation commission for an NOI and there has been some comments that have come up through T regarding the um uh riverfront area and so the applicant is currently trying to work through some of those comments to uh try
to address those. So that's to not hold them up on um in terms of the planning side. If any modifications come from that um they would any major modifications that would come from that they would come back before the board
for a major modification. Okay. All right. >> My colleagues. Yes. Nathan, >> one question. Um, no, we're not on this the uh storm water one yet, but >> is there not a certificate of completion applicable in that there's we're going to get to special conditions in storm
water >> is that apply to the >> uh project plan? >> Yes. Yes, there is. Did I forget to put that condition in there? >> Thank you for reminding me of that. We'll make sure that that's on there special. >> Yes, sir.
>> One question on the binding. Joe Morano materials. Um section three you called it a warehouse. Um would it be possible to say building instead? >> In section three >> findings >> number three under sorry >> the existing building.
>> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And you're adding another special condition. I want to make sure I read that out loud. Um, that'll be under the storm water. >> Oh, so it doesn't matter that it would be here. >> Okay, good. That's fine.
>> It doesn't apply to the >> Okay. No, okay. That one. >> All right. Thank you. >> Can you Sorry, I was thinking about what he was doing on the screen. So, the waiver request that's on this waiver
request for the stormwater is in both. Is that what we're saying? >> Yeah. I always put waiverss in both decisions. in both the site plan and >> and the storm water with yeah what Nathan was referencing was one of the special conditions >> special conditions okay thanks >> that one is only specific to the storm
water because it's it's only regarding for the storm water >> another suggestion in the findings >> okay >> so should they actually say the existing building and its current uses will be made
>> no that just the building the uses are the uses we don't govern uses Okay. >> So, we don't need any more clarification than the fact it's just a building. >> Correct. It's it's a building that's within the
industrial zone, which answers enough because we don't govern uses. That's the commission. >> Right. Thank you. >> Anything else? >> I'm ready to make a motion. >> Do you have something?
Um there's >> oh there's a public comment. >> Um let me just see one second. >> Ken has preceded first >> and then we can >> Okay. So my only question Danny um was
the materials. So the the date of the drawings and whatnot that we have here the August 15 to 2025 and then the revised date of September 25 2024. That is it. There's no >> currently. Yes. >> So there's no revision after September
25 at this point in time. >> Correct. >> At this point. No. Yeah. That's the final until or if something happens subsequent to that then. >> Yes. >> Okay. That was my main question then. Thank you. Anything else from the board? Okay.
We'll open up for public input. Uh Pauline. >> No. >> Good evening and thank you. I have a very simple question. I hope >> um if you are granting waiverss to any commercial industrial site for storm
water maintenance, who does the cost for that maintenance fall to? And there's a cost that obviously that particular business or entity will no longer have to pay. Who pays that cost?
>> I'm not sure what you mean by they don't have to pay. Well, then Danny, you explain to us what the waiver does because I'm not clear on any of this. >> Oh. Oh, I just was confused by what your question was. So, the waiver that
they're requesting is that they have an exist they have an existing storm water system that currently handles the site today. What they're proposing is for the expansion of the site, the new proposed project, a new storm water system would
be installed which would serve that portion of the site and that's what the that's the what the waiver is requiring or require. >> Well, thank you for that. I wasn't clear because I remember when storm water maintenance was approved what a year
year and a half ago we residents are all now taxed for runoff on our property and commercial industrial businesses in particular were able to request waiverss for 50% reduction which obviously then
falls on people. So I just wanted to make sure that is not what you are discussing. >> Oh no no no no. Yeah, we So the planning board doesn't have the authority to wave um the the the storm water fund. Yeah. The utility storm water utility fee. No,
no, no. That goes through there's a whole that that goes through DPW. That's not what this is about. >> You have anything else, Pauline? Nope. >> She muted. So I think Oh, >> I'm sorry. I did mute. I I just wanted to say thank you for the clarification.
Got it. >> All right. Anything else? All right. I'd like to make a motion. >> All right. So, your motion is up here on page two at the top. >> Yes. I'd like to make a motion approval of the site plan for 12 Willow Road
creative materials pursuant to subsection 320-3.5 site plan review of Arizona bylaw subject to the standard conditions 1 through 36 and special condition number one in this decision. That's in this decision period. Thank you. Do I have a
second? >> Second. >> Any further discussion? >> Hearing none. Ken, how do you vote? >> I Kathleen. >> Yes. >> Nathan. >> Hi. >> Julie? >> Yes. >> Chair. Now we have the uh storm water. >> Yes.
>> And what do we need to do here? Read the findings. Are there findings? >> Yes, there are findings on this one as well. >> Okay. Where are they? Okay. Findings. So, let me go over the findings and these special conditions. Findings include um
I'm going to insert the language for clarity. The words because, because, and therefore, and that's only for clarity because, as we saw last time, there's some confusion. Because construction site storm water runoff and post construction storm water discharges may permanently alter the hydraologic response of local wersheds
and increased storm water runoff rates and volumes which in turn may increase flooding, stream channel erosion, non-point source pollution and sediment transport and deposition and decrease groundwater recharge. And because construction sites, on water runoff, and post construction storm water discharges can adversely affect public safety,
public and private property, surface water, groundwater resources, drinking water supplies, recreation, aquatic habitats, fish, and other aquatic life, property values, and other uses of land and water. Therefore, it is in the public interest to regulate construction site storm water runoff and post-construction stormwater discharges
in order to minimize the impacts identified above. The applicant shall be sub also subject also be subject to the town of air stormwater regulations. >> What that's and >> are you going to put that language in
there? >> It is in here. >> No >> what you just said >> there me to add the because >> it's only for clarification. >> I think it belongs. Okay. >> And let me just finish the last finding number. >> Oh no.
>> Yeah. Go ahead. I'll go back. >> The project site consists of parcel ID 23-26 containing approximately more or less 7.44 acres, 324,273 square ft. The property is located within the industrial zoning district.
The existing building will remain and a 19,500 ft square foot square foot addition will be built. The we have general conditions I believe. What what's that? Go.
>> Can I go to item four? >> When they declare it say this application is subject so the applicant is also to be subject. It's a fact this application is subject to the storm water regulations.
So the applicant shall be >> this this applicant his subject >> doesn't have to be sh >> shall and is are the same thing. How I think if I could clarify if this gets transferred right they sell and they transfer you know if an
applicant sells it's really the application that is subject >> to the this permit regulation >> it's actually this permit >> the permit >> the applic you should say I agree this application and it's storm water permit >> well the per the application is the
permit You guys okay with that? The rest of the board. >> Yeah, that's fine. We good on the findings? So we have I think uh 35 of the standard general conditions and the two special conditions are thus one the
applicant shall submit for a modification if any plan changes come from the conservation commission and the notice of intent process and two the certificate of completion shall be recorded the middle sex south registry of deeds by the owner and a copy of the reported decision shall uh be submitted
electronically to the planning Colleagues, any questions, comments, etc. Hearing none, any input from the public. None. Who wants to make the motion? >> I will. >> Oh, go for it. Thank you. Make the motion for approval of the site
plan pursuant to subsection 245-5 and six storm water management of air general bylaws subject to the standard conditions 1 through35 and special conditions numbered 1 and two in this decision. Thank you. >> Seconded.
>> Excellent. Any further discussion hearing? None. Ken I. Kathleen. >> Yes. >> Nathan I. Julie. >> Yes. >> I it is approved. Um, I know we have to close the public hearing, but before we do, I just want to say congratulations and wish you the best of luck. >> Thank you.
>> Thank you very much for your time. >> I make a motion to close the public hearing uh for 12 road site plan review and still more management. >> Second. >> Any further discussion hearing? None. Ken, >> hi. >> Kathleen, >> yes. >> Nathan,
>> hi. >> Julie, >> yes. Javai's ticket. >> Um, >> I just read what's going on >> for for for 35 parks here. >> Yes, if you can. >> So, uh, originally scheduled for we
scheduled a continue. Was this a opening or continuous for? >> It was to open. >> It was open. It hasn't even been open yet. So, there was a a notice for 35 a public hearing for 35 Park Street uh for site plan review and special permit. However, and I'm going to read the note,
this public hearing will not be open due to the legal notice not properly stating what the project is. The applicant will be resubmitting revised applications and then the public hearing will be renotified via the newspaper and a bud notifications for November 25th, 2025.
That >> is correct. and we received a um an extension letter to open the public hearing because >> since um November 11th is a holiday, we don't have a meeting that day.
>> Um we would have that would have been our next meeting date. So we get to our next meeting date would have been November uh would be November uh 25th which is 5 days past the 45day period which we have to open a public
hearing. So I reached out to town council they asked um she opine that we should request an extension letter from the applicant. The applicant obliged and gave us that. So now we'll renotify it so that it runs to on the um November uh
25th. >> That's based on the fact that you're going to receive the new application. You haven't got it yet, right? >> Yeah. No. So they'll re what they're going to do is update um revise the application. >> They're going to revise the the other application. >> Yep. They're going to revise the
application and re and submit that. >> I see the word now. Thank you. Okay. the owner of the pharmacy at 13 Park. So, I didn't know that. So, I just I've been trying to get in from you to get the um parking to the right side of the
building. I've been waiting for about eight months for the engineering firm, David Ross, to try to get things in for you. So, I know you're running, plus I'm running weather and everything, too. So, I hope to be in front of you at some point. >> Okay, great.
>> But thank you. I didn't realize this is why I was here. Oh, sorry. >> I didn't realize it was cancelled. So, >> Oh, I'm so sorry. >> No problem at all. Thank you very much. >> All right. Well, good luck. >> All you do for the town. >> Well, thank you. >> Pharmacy was great for me today. >> Oh, boy. That that's very important
because I went above and beyond. >> I love to hear that because I'm in purple a lot, too. So, this is this is great. Thank you for that. It gets just gets the ins and the outs and the you know, making more parking. I want to make sure that the elderly people can >> and you are full today.
>> Get in and get their, you know, get their prescriptions. So, >> thank you. >> Thank you very much. >> So, we have some administrative up project status updates, sir. >> Yes. So, on Stratton Hill, um we were having some trouble getting this um
convened for a site walk. So, what I uh suggested to Attorney Collins um was, you know, it was hard to get people there for 10 on um a Tuesday and a Wednesday. So, I suggested that, you know, typically we do ours Thursdays at
8 a.m. Um, so once he gets back to me, I will reconvene. I'll send everyone else an email and just say, "Does this work for everyone?" I suggested either this week or next week for it. Um, well, at this point, we can't this week. Uh, it would be um
>> next Yeah, because it's a two-day notice we need to do. So, it would most likely be for next week. Um I will let everyone know hopefully by to you know tomorrow or Thursday or Friday you know but at some point I will make sure that um
everyone knows um if not if next week doesn't work you know we'll we'll work on this um there you know they're very open to working with us and letting us on site and if we have to you know do it in groups of two um that works too or
you know two two in on like whatever we have to do at that point we can kind of make it work. >> Yeah. >> Thank you. >> Great. >> Um 42 Park Street. So currently
we um are so there was supposed to we were hoping that there were there was going to be rain today. There was no rain because we wanted to we were walking the site last week to see how the site was functioning. Um based on the asbel plan looking at it, we had
seen some concerns that we had. Um it seemed that the pavement as they, you know, they redid it, it looks great, but it's not pitching the right way. when you go out there, you can see where the
sediment is going, where um things are pulling, and that they're bypassing the storm water system right now. Um they're just for clarification, just remind us so if you would that the
stormwater system in this case first of all goes to catch basins and then from there is it subsurface? I can't remember if it's sub it is >> subsurface. So ultimately it goes we want it to go to the catch basins, drop the sediment in the catch basins, then go to the subsurface where it finally
percolates down. >> Correct. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Yep. And so what what we've noticed is that that's not what's happening based on our observations. Um Matt, Heather and I went out there last week. We walked the site for about an hour really
inspecting it and you know there are some concerns. We reached out to uh the owner um and their engineer to try to set up a meeting for this week. They have not got back to us. Um I'm going to
hopefully follow up and and get, you know, push them on it because they're also working without a um >> co now. Their temporary co has run out. Um and Mike is on top of that as well.
So, there's a lot of outstanding issues that we need addressed. Our biggest concern is really the storm uh the pavement and the storm water. Um it's it they they repaved it much better than this time, but it's not pitching the right way and it's just bypassing the
the catch basins. So, we're hopeful that we'll be able to address this. There's um you know, we when Matt and I and Heather met out there, we had some ideas on how we can address it. Um but we're we're going to
have to have a meeting with them to get this addressed and it's it's a pressing issue at this point. So, we're pushing that. And um there's also concerns through conservation because their plans that they propose don't match what's on
the site. Um the uh um there's there's concerns regarding parking which uh have been relayed to them and the chiefs have been notified because there've been multiple
attempts to have them rectify it and it has not been done. So the chiefs now know and have been warned about fines. Um >> the chiefs clarify that if you would Mr. Chief. So, parking uh so what has been
happening is if you you're driving past the building, there's handicap parking up at the top of the site. >> They've been parking. >> Yeah. Well, so it that's kind of where it kind of landed.
They've been parking, you know, cars that are not handicapped have been parking um not parallel parking like there should there be they should be. they're just pulling into the spaces and parking as they want. Um, and that's obviously
a safety concern. Um, especially because of the business. So now the chiefs have been notified and um they we've been we've tried to give them a chance about it previously. They've been notified. They didn't do anything about it. Now
the chiefs have been notified. >> I have one question. Thank you, Ne. Um, did did I see something with or did you mention that you received the Asville plans? >> Yes, we did. >> Okay. So, >> it's a it's a preliminary one. So, it's not the final one because we have not we
have not finished the final, you know, the sign off at least from our perspective. There's concerns that they need to address which will then have to be updated on the asbuilt as well as there's things that are shown on the plan that are not there.
So the ask the plan you received just for clarification does it show that the grading being incorrect? >> Yes does. Okay. So the engineer has reflected what's there. >> Yes. And um based on the letter that the
engineer issued I believe that they did not catch it even though the grades show it. So that's another concern we have is he signed off on a letter stating that it
was done and it's functioning and it's not. So that's another concern we have. >> Should we get I mean do you feel comfortable giving us a letter at this point or what do you want to do? >> Um I I I'm going to hold off for now. Uh
uh we have a we're hoping to have a meeting so we can kind of address this, but this is uh it's now getting to the point where it's it's it's really being very it's very concerning. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. Thank you for doing this.
>> Um Pine Street. So Pine Street, they received their nifties permit last week, I believe it was, and so now they are starting to do site work. So the nifty's permit is what governs it's what they apply through the um EPA for site work
and for storm water. That was approved and now they're going to they're starting site work over there. Um >> is this someone near Third Street? >> Yes. Yeah. Right off Third Street. So that's that's commencing. There was uh we had a meeting um or Josiah and I
discussed um the tree that we had talked about saving. >> When um they were out there limming, they noticed that down the middle of it there's a kind of a dead spot within the tree. >> One of the other larger tree that we
were hoping to also save was dead right through the middle. When they cut it, they noticed the whole center was just rotted out. So, um I had uh I had talked with Heather about it, asked her to go out there and look at it. She did agree that the tree needs to come down even
though like yes, right now it could survive another two or three years, but would need to come down eventually. So, we felt it was better to get it, you know, just cut it down now. And we discussed adding some additional trees in that area. So, um Heather did discuss, you know, some some trees and
some shrubs. So, um, there's a plan coming forth, you know, of when we once the site work is moving along, we'll go back out there and determine where the tree should go. >> Could you D the ch could you
>> not use the acronies and give us think national whatever it is pollutant >> national pollutants. Um, oh man, it's a long one. Let me just >> disch something system. the uh effluent system. Um
>> and it has to do with the regulation of the the storm water on the site during construction, things like that. >> Yes, it's a national pollutant um discharge elimination system. >> There you go. Okay. Thank >> we always use the term nifties, but once in a while it's good to remind us what
it >> Yeah. It's it's a it's a term we use in in the uh profession. we forget that, you know, there's a lot of acronyms in this in this profession. >> Thank you. >> Um, so that's that's it right now. Um,
>> terrific. >> Yeah, >> it's chair. >> Yes, >> it's not on here, but maybe um there's a lot of activity going on at the Soya. I don't know if there's any interest or reason to visit. >> That would be good to get a feedback on. >> Yeah, so um with the Soya right now there is a lot of work going on. Um Mike
is basically out there almost every day there. He's he's working with them. Um the DPW is also working with them on trying to get the force main also installed. Um I if the board is inclined to want to go out there.
>> That's my question. Is there any reason I don't >> I think at this just an active site. >> Yeah. >> No, I get the No, not at all. >> Yeah. I mean it's up to the board. I mean, do you guys want to go out there? I mean,
>> I my preference would be that we just keep getting updates from Danny step by step. So, for instance, when they get to putting in the storm water system, you know, maybe you tell us, you know, it's 50% complete or something like that. Exactly. Just completion percentages like you would do on a regular construction.
>> Yeah. Okay. >> Mike Mike has kind of been leading that one just because he's basically out there every day at this point. So, what I'll do is I will convene with Mike and get some updates on him and uh and then I can update the board.
>> Thank you. >> Yes, Kathleen. >> Um for Stratton Hill, uh I don't know if the plan is that when we go out there we would know, but is there some up to-date timeline as to where things are? And then also, um I believe it kind of seems
like there are two projects going on there. There's the Straten Hill development, but National Grid has also been doing a lot of work. >> Yeah. >> And it looks like you've kind of changed the construction entrance or something.
>> Um, and since I was curious if you knew what the National Grid project and timeline. >> So, I don't have a timeline on it. I know they're doing a bunch of work all up and down that whole easement all
throughout town. Um in terms of time frame I think it's a based on the uh discussion we had with them early on in the process national grid when they came before us last year at some point they said it was a two to threeyear project.
I don't know where they are in that in that time frame and how long in air they're going to be, but um that's kind of >> tell who is on the national project because I think they're now using
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. National Grid is using their construction entrance to enter the site and they're getting that's how they're getting up to their site up on um the easement. that's how they're getting up there. Um, but
is it it's one of those diff one of those situations that they have been previously using that. So, that's kind of why they're still using it. And see, uh, they're they're um they're trying to work with the Stratton Hill, you know, developers to make sure that they're not
in the way and they're not affecting anyone. But yes, they are using that access to get to theirs. Have you walked up there at all? >> Um, no. >> I would avoid I would avoid unless you
you you talk to them in the aisle a lot. >> Oh, >> very early in the morning. It's very difficult to understand. >> Is this a Stratton Hill? >> Uh, >> I did that. I didn't know. Okay.
>> Okay. So, I will have a discussion with um uh Attorney Collins >> off the boulevard entrance. And it looks like they're primarily like the the folks that are working on the Shrine Hill project now enter from
the the only reason I know this is cuz I I have to literally walk my dog by it twice and every time I drive, right? >> So, they they enter now through the the second entrance to kind of >> park in there. Um Yeah, it's a really good question.
>> It is. >> So I Heather, I this is going to sound crazy. I remember looking at the original drawings that National Grid turned in for the conservation commission a few years ago and amazing set of drawings by the top was a top
engineering firm, whatever they you know 50 60 pages of drawings or something like that. >> Yep. And I don't ever remember this level of detail on that set of drawings that they're do they're doing like you know I see see the same thing right now.
So they're literally building completely new flat >> y >> cleared out you know areas and then putting in the sub. >> Want me to explain something to you? >> Yeah. Go ahead. >> Okay. >> So it's an interesting I guess here's my thought and I agree 100%. There's no
regulation on that truck traffic in relation to let's say the um detention basin that's there and things like that. Aren't they hidden kind of right on the edge of the buffer zones and stuff like that? >> So for the national grid project part of their they they same thing when they did
it over by air um air solar 2 they bring those pilings in and they basically cover that and they use that to bring the excavator and trucks in over the wetlands. For the most part, the they do have a condition in there on on my part that they cannot leave them in there over growing season. So if they're in
there now, they cannot be left over winter when the spring starts because they're not allowed to leave them for their special conditions. >> So you might see them for a long time. And what this project is, it goes all the way from like Boilson all the way Yeah. And it's the entire transmission
line. Last year they did a different section. So there's two transmission lines that go through town. Yeah. Yeah, >> one that's off of Park Street and the other one that's this part of town. So there's two both working, you know, the same time. So you see sugar grid everywhere because there's multiple projects going on in town through them
on both of the transmission lines. This the one over I think Strat Hill is the larger one. Um, so it is a it is a large scale project across multiple towns and they're expecting it to take to the point where they're probably going to asking for extensions that it's going to go beyond the three years before time because they went through all the towns
were permitting and they're starting wherever they can get through. So with this one, I think it was probably because of whatever wetlands or anything they decided to use a different entrance beyond what was allowed on in the permit was originally put just because of how it was the access was two seat
>> um coming in I think from um >> they can't get there. It's an island >> the m the mountain laurel hibiscus whatever that that side of of it they came in the other way. >> Yeah. And Dillis and Roy actually notes in their quarterly report that um they say Dillis and Roy notes that the construction act activities associated
with national grid improvements to the utility corridor are ongoing. The national grid uh is accessing their power lines through the existing southern entrance to the property closest to the existing storm water basin. National grid is responsible for the maintenance and erosion controls and
stabilization construction and stabiliz stabilized construction entrance along that access route. So, in terms of um maintenance for that, they're responsible. They're handling it. But the fact that they're idling, I would say it's
>> okay. >> I would say it's probably not Straten Hill >> because Straten Hill is has a condition that they're not allowed to idol. And he's he has been very good about following their condition. So, I will
have to talk with Attorney Collins and say, "Can you talk with National Grid about making sure that they're not idling?" >> Yeah. Cuz particularly now that it's gotten cold, like 6:30 in the morning, those trucks just sit there, their engines on. >> Yeah. So, we have a tendency to sit.
>> Yes, they do. I know they do. So, I will make sure >> I don't want to pursue this too much, but there could be a somewhat of a misunderstanding based on what Heather has said. So, I'm I'm well aware of the cribbing or whatever you call it, the big timbers that they put in, but
they're literally clearing and filling and grading and doing some serious construction. >> Yeah. >> But it's utility that we don't we can't we don't have >> it's it's an ironic twist. This is now an open space that is under mass
wildlife potentially. >> No, the easement is not part of the open space. >> It's not the open space. The e is not going to consider part of the open space. >> Remember we we kept the open space from south of the open space and north of the
open space. I mean north of the eent. >> Yeah. >> I always thought the Okay, I could be wrong. I guess I always thought the open I thought the open space was everything north of the residential area and then some south. Not including the >> they're saying that you took out 350 ft
wide by whatever that distance is out of the calculation for the open space. >> Yeah, they did. >> I think it Okay, I'm going to check it. I'd like you to check it. Yeah, >> because I think >> but even if it is even if it is >> is allowed in the open space. It's allowed. >> Yeah, even if it is, it has we have no
say over that. National grid has every right to do whatever they want within their easement. We don't have a we can't >> a valid point that people could take a mis have a misunderstanding here. >> Yes. >> Okay. That's a valid point. >> I mean yeah I mean it's the same thing with the noise too, right? Like
everybody hears the noise and there's >> you can't dduplicate >> that project like down. >> Yeah, I know. That's true. You also have the pump station going. >> Yeah, you guys definitely know what trucks look like now on our street.
definitely have a lot of truck traffic going on. >> Yeah. So, trucks in it, we know what they look like. >> Yep. >> And so, I'll follow up with them on that and I'll look into that, but I'm pretty sure the easement was not did not fall into that. >> Okay. All right. Uh, you got the revised
meeting minutes? >> Yes. >> Okay. I'd like to make a motion to approve the minutes for September 23rd, 2025 as submitted and amended by myself uh this morning. >> Second. And oh >> one comment from Ken which was to fix on
page two from 3.4 to 3.5 siphon review that was amended. >> Okay, great. That was amended. >> Seconded with those. >> Ken, how do you vote? >> Hi, >> Kathleen. >> I was not here. >> Oh, okay. Sorry. Uh, >> no, you were here for the September 20.
>> Oh, did you miss two meetings in a row? That's right. Okay, you're right. Okay. Yep. Nathan, I >> Julie. >> Yeah. and myself I vote I sign those then I'd like to make a motion to approve the minutes of October 14th 2025 as amended is submitted to you this morning
>> seconded >> uh Ken >> I but I want to thank whoever did the minutes thank you for the minutes >> I >> were you here for this one Ken no >> uh Nathan >> I douly >> yes chair >> votes I approve have a motion for
adjournment >> heck yes so moved Great. Good night everybody. Thank you.