Evening everyone. This is the Air Conservation Commission meeting. It is Thursday, September 11th, 2025. Commissioners in attendance this evening as member, have George as member. We
have Mark Phillips as vice chair, Hansen as our conservation agent, myself Josh Menburgger as chair, Jessino is absent today because she had a knee replace on Monday and she'll be out for a couple.
Do we have uh approval of the the agenda? >> No changes to the agenda. Approval of meeting minutes for August agenda. >> You were all thrown off now. >> I'm all thrown off.
>> This could only get worse. >> Is there a motion to approve the agenda? >> Second. All in favor say I. >> I. Nay. Passes unanimously. Approval of the meeting minutes for August 28th, 2025.
Anyone have any comments or changes? Summarize public input. >> All right. And then if there's no changes, then is there a motion to approve the meeting minutes for August 28th, 2025 as written? >> Second. All in >> favor say I. I
>> oppose. Nay. Passes unanimously. Bless you. Uh, first item this evening is a request for determination of pathability. Northern Construction Service 0 West Main Street temporary bridge along Cart
Road from DPW Yard on Brook Street to main West Main Street for construction access. Do we have Hello. >> Yes, sir. Good evening. >> Good evening. >> State your name for the records, please. >> It's Tom Perry
>> with Northern Construction. >> I'll come to the >> Just Perry the Town Project. >> That's all right. >> Just like it sounds. Perry R. >> P E R Y. Yes. >> Making sure. >> I knew Jamie Perry. It was P A.
>> You never know. >> Sounds French. >> Northern New York. Yeah. What do you got for us? Uh so, uh request for determination um as part of the project uh the commission previously
looked at for West Main Street bridge replacement um coordination with uh W and Dan's folks. We'd like to propose um some work to to maintain the uh existing
cart path between uh West Main and the DPW yard, Brook Street, I believe. Um >> uh that would include some some overgrowth cleanup. Um and then
throughout the It's an unpaved uh access road. Um most people probably don't notice it's a little bit blocked off on the West Main Street side. >> Um currently there's no complete um access all the way through because the uh former culvert uh generally about
middle of the road um lengthwise is is collapsed. So we proposed to put a temporary crossing there for for equipment only um not for post travel and that would be in use during the
duration of the project and then return to current conditions um at the completion you know imp you know the obviously vegetation trimming and you know but generally uh a car path you know serving
as access as an access Is that the one that that came out that was blocked by Beaieber and got yanked out? >> Yes. Yeah. From several years ago where we had an issue. >> So I think
>> I I think kind of separate from this project longterm we have we just haven't got around to it. We do want to re you know fix that area. That culvert's still there. There's a beaver deceiver there. But we the DPW we really don't have a
use for it. But actually now this is very important for this project here because there's nowhere to stage equipment and materials and this is a perfect access to our big yard. So it worked great for this project as Tom said like temporarily just to create the crossing. And I think once Tom and his
crew are done with the project my department really Matt through engineering we we'd finish up um stabilizing that area separate from this from this RDA separate from this project. we put together an NOI like we we talked about doing that several years ago, but that's that's what I think um
is a good plan moving forward for it. >> So, it's going to be built so that it it's going to last a long time through the fall 27. Um you know, it'd be it'd be in use and, you know, we'd be
active on the project, so it' be maintained. Um, on the application I did include a a sketch of um, you know, how we'd control, you know, erosion and and mud and and track out from the unpaved road. So, you know, we proposed
just some drainage stone, some to stabilize over a geoteexile fabric that would just kind of separate. >> So, Dan, if if you you're saying that you like to keep this cart road open. No, no. I think when when Tom's done
with it, we would he would take out his temporary work there, his temporary crossing, and at that point, it makes sense for us to get in, you know, leading up to that, whether it's another contractor, if I did a change over with Tom, to stabilize it. And we do that through an NOI process. I don't want to
confuse it. this project. This is specifically just to create temporary access to the to the uh DPW site for the project and then just kind of you know re um you know improve that carve path so we can get through and and do minimum
possible with the matting across the top. I think it's it's kind of similar what Grids does when they go and and do the power line work with the matting similar thing. >> Yeah. >> So it's essentially what they want to do is create temporary access, do it for the project and get out. That's Tom's job. DPW, we still own the property
longterm. I I you know, after that's out, we got to get we got to clean it up still. The color is still there. We still got to get rid of all that. That'll be separate project. >> Yeah. Yeah. This is coming real close to this to a
house, right? And then when it pops out onto the >> right near the roadway, you can actually see it on the way. >> This is >> um Yeah, there was just the parcel map there. >> You can see it on the screen there from the the GIS where it comes out.
>> So there's a there's a billboard there. >> Right there where the car is that's where it's coming up. >> Uh yeah, right right there. Yep. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Billboard. >> I think that was the house. No, that's the shadow of the >> Oh, yeah. That's a billboard with a shadow. >> Does anyone ask what the West Main
Street Bridge is like? You know what the billboard is? >> Oh, yeah. >> Thicker. >> So, going back to the design though. >> Design. Yes. Uh so that is some some Gavon basket. So it's just some galvanized mesh through
the stone box there. So the the the >> oh cross um so the arch and it doesn't look anything like that one time. >> So So that's flat there.
>> Yeah. I wonder if I might have some photos if it comes up of interest that I can uh pull up. But um yeah, that's a very irregular uh it's that's like the midspan section, but the at the cover
crossing the banks of the former culvert are pretty irregular. There's a lot of trees, the beaver debris has kind of accumulated there. So, um, those blocks might not look exactly stacked like that, but the goal is to with minimal
excavation really just put those blocks in so we don't have any erosion or or loss of ground as we put the the structural element, the timbers on top. Um, so those are there not necessarily to support the bridge, but just to make
sure that bank we don't lose the bank underneath us. And um then that would stay there and we would just really use a you know lay equipment um a lull or something carrying material
um you know it's it's twofold. One it's it's it's available and and two it reduces the the any trip once we get into the phas any trip we can reduce from the queued up lights. um the
help help everybody. >> My mind might not make a difference, but it there to a lot of people waiting in red light, but it'll because we we're with traffic, then we got to pull off in the work zone, people follow us. So, this will kind of keep us separate. Um
so, the 30 foot span, it's made of logs/timbers. >> Yeah. 12 in timbers. Yes. Y >> 30 ft in length. >> Yes. Y >> Okay. So the timber be laid perpendicular to it. It's not like a like a swamp met that they use like you
said right away where is typically 4ish 5 ft. >> Yeah. This is something like laid down one after the other, >> right? Yeah. No, cuz we needed the the strength. So this is something placed as one solid unit or timber by timber and then lashed together or
something. Um I think it's all just all wood linkage together. Um it's all >> so yeah there's eight units I think it you know true it's like 8 and 1/2 ft um in width. So >> but yeah it fits on a trailer.
I mean, we might put a a steel plate underneath it just to give us more rigidity, but generally it's pretty simple. >> Wide is it? >> Uh, that's the length. You don't have a width on there. >> No, it's about 8 and 1/2 ft. I I showed
um you know those two edges, I believe, are 12 feet. Um is what I showed for the I just kind of took an average of what was existing there. Some places it's like 3 ft wide. to clear, but um we're just looking at kind of one way traffic.
>> Yes. You going to try to keep an 8 and 1/2t path the whole way or are you going to be clearing more than that? >> Uh it we'll probably make it 12. You know, it'll it doesn't need to be like a straight road. You can kind of go around bigger branches and just kind of clear. Um
you know and as far as I did show erosion control on both sides of you know silt fence and uh and sediment log and then the geoteexile we put underneath it which will give some stability to the material on top and also just separate from
um it's it's a a thermal thermal break so there's not as much freeze in the spring when with a cleaner So that's when you really end up with the mud is, you know,
>> y start thawing when it doesn't thaw all the way through. So um I can just it's going to take maintenance at times. Um you know it's it's there might be times where we don't use it for a week
and everything's pretty tight to our work zone, but um there'll be times where we use it doesn't trips a day, you know. So, >> do you have you ever seen that water level get as high as the bank the top of
the the top of the bank at all? >> I haven't seen it. >> Only if something's wrong with the seaver or anything. >> It would it would have to be a fever related or a backflow of the Nashua, which I haven't seen that happen. >> No. put this over this thing here and
all of a sudden it works. >> How long will this be there do we think? >> Oh, two years right to end of 27. >> Yeah, likely this >> conservatively. >> Um yeah, like likely this winter through fall 27
>> your my biggest concern the whole rain and then the back. Yeah. Yeah. And So right now I mean you showing here proposed crushed stone below the
gabians. Gabians. Is that how they say? Gabons. >> Um >> like in it's like a basket and it >> Yeah. With the rocks inside. >> Yes. >> Um I'm more concerned about the stone going underneath. So So you're going to dig that out. I I guess
I could think like from a swamp perspective when they go on rideways basically they're laying that in kind of quote unquote as gently as possible. Mhm. >> Right. And just kind of putting the stuff down. So I mean is there a way to just
I guess you know put the baskets in and see how they stabilize themselves without having to dig in and put more stone in. >> Yeah. That pretty much exactly what intended to draw but didn't get drawn that way really. Yeah. I I agree. There
should not be any any stone below that. Um it should really just be natural gravel. construction construction entrance we have. >> Yeah, he's down. We're down at the water line. >> I'm just thinking you just kind of like lay in as many baskets as you need to
kind of get to the site how you are and I don't they come in half baskets like you know to kind of get yourself sort of level of sorts, right? >> Yep. Um, if you can >> you can kind of see here there's a little bit of ser I don't know if you
want me to connect to that or >> I mean yeah >> plug the puck in. >> Yeah, just plug that in. >> Pretty locked down here. Had a couple. Who knows? Nothing works on my computer anymore. >> Oh yeah.
Where's it? >> Oh, sweet. That was the easiest IT thing I've ever done in my life. >> Yeah, it's it's awesome. >> Um, so you see here we did a little bit of survey. It's tough to walk. It's tough to walk through here, >> but it's pretty irregular,
>> you know. So, we kind of looked at like this 211 and 212 contour, and that's >> generally what we try to do. It gets down to >> I think I think the water level was 205 to 20. There's like eight inches of
hydraulic difference between the two sides, >> I guess. What's the distance? I mean, do we have to put the the baskets in at all or will it just span it? >> Like, can you just like lay the darn thing down? And like you said, the the little stone leading up to it. >> Yeah, it >> it looks really small.
>> It's Yeah, it's not overly wide. I I mean I don't want to see the bank get eroded at all, but yeah, I don't I don't know what the >> I don't want to put nothing I didn't want to put nothing on the embankments for activity because I'm sure there's going to be some just to clean up the logs and and stuff that's there. Um and
then you really can't see I did look at this in the spring a bit, but certainly now it's so overgrown you could you can really couldn't walk and get close to that cover right now. It's sort of just all Yeah. Um,
it's, uh, this was June. It's only gotten worse. I was out here in a couple weeks ago. >> Isn't the building like off to the right there, Dan? Or is that is that coming in from Is that the DPW side or >> East Main Street? West Main Street.
>> This is coming in from DPW. Sorry. >> Okay. Okay. So, looking Yeah, you're looking toward West Main. Yeah, there's some logs when we pull them out from the beavers. >> Oh, yeah. >> Those could even be backed up from the beaver. >> Can't tell it's silver. >> But we check that deceiver regularly and
make sure everything's a okay over there. Then yeah, you can see straight through. >> Yeah. So this is the top of the >> embankment there. >> Are they holding on lipstick? >> I was I was trying to swat the bugs and
uh it's pretty >> Oh, >> they're pretty serious in there. But this is the connection up to DPW here. So this is pretty it's almost two different types. This is like you know obviously pine forest here. Pretty sandy and stable here.
>> There's a utility overhead. I forget you said that's fiber. Yeah. >> Yeah. Fiber. Yeah. Um, >> eight and a half's wide enough for you. What? You're not like taking like a front loader or anything across this, right? It's just like pickup trucks and stuff or what? >> Like a material handler like a low like
a big forklift type thing. Um, >> yeah, we eight and a half is wide enough. It just seems narrow. I don't know. Um, >> I think if you had a bigger item, you might might just go around West Main Street, Main Street Park. >> Yeah,
>> I I've show I So, I've shown that I've shown the the the walkway at 12 um if you folks recall this. Um, this is my original kind of thoughts. So, we had said 12 ft wide and
so we have an 8 and 1/2 ft um bridge section and we can add we can add two sides to that that we typically add when we need guardrails. Um so that would that would put it at I think each one is one foot. So
10 and a half is the max we'd be at the crossing. Um, >> you can't tell. Can you tell the main street side or >> um >> I haven't seen it from that side. >> I uh believe
I stole my There's nothing like just vacation pictures or something mixed in here. Let me find what I uh Because obviously the cart path pretty maintained the DPW side. I'm just wondering what we're looking at. >> That's where it gets pretty if
>> I remember the initial first for a little ways past that house it's pretty good and sparse. I think as you get closer the color it's very similar to the other side where it gets >> and that's and that's the actual buffer of the house. >> Just from my walks out there. Yeah.
>> So, this is um >> I'm walking back towards Sorry. Walking back towards West Main Street here. >> Yeah. >> A little bit of uh encroachment maybe. I don't know. Can have some
>> that property lens >> must be from the beavers. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> They were busy out there. Yep. >> They're hauling this guy's firewood to him, you know. >> So, I'll go back to walking in towards the court.
There's some few winds that are that were low. >> You said this is in spring. >> This was um June June 23rd, I believe.
was thrown out of the way there, but there was a barrier there that I think used to go this way. And this is where >> pretty thick. >> It didn't take too long for it to get thick, did it? Cuz we we walked back
there after it got that cover got porn out. That one slide said that the the length was 50 to 60 feet. >> We originally looking for going to use a more robust bridge and look at heavier equipment going back and forth, but um
>> no, >> no, we can we can keep it tighter and and our our I think we walked in a condition similar to this and and threw that out there. It was actually like about this much daylight and we were trying to figure out how long we would need it. It's like get something to Heather and kind of
overestimated how far we were from each other. I think because we couldn't walk across so >> right >> longer was better. Um you know I think the first step would be you know if if um an RDA is ends up being acceptable as
an approach this maintenance temporary um we would likely start and communicate with Heather on on uh the vegetation cleanup and then really see what what's left of the embankments and see if that uh
um we can keep that to very minimal excavation. if any um and make sure and if we need a longer span, we'll have to come up with a different um crossing type. But these timber ones really work at about
it'd be about uh 20 ft, you know, of span and then land on abutments about 10 ft back. So So 5 foot abutments on each side and then would give us about 20 ft of crossing. So, as long as there's enough to do here, which from our data
it is, um, but once we pull some of those start pulling logs out, it might be more than what we think. >> Yep. >> So, in the center, you're a little adverse to going beyond 20 ft of span is what you're saying.
>> So, essentially, that would be that would be the maximum point where you'd want to put the gabians, >> 20 foot between the gabians essentially. >> Yeah. Um, exactly. >> Yeah. I mean, I'm I'd be very much in favor, you know, again, if we don't need
them at all, that would be great and everything. That's kind of that's kind of where I'm headed. You know, I don't think it's really a big deal. But to the extent that, you know, you can lay this across without having to get into where the >> you know, the culvert is and all that stuff, that'd be super. Crossing my
fingers that I think it could happen. And then again, I'm assuming like on the right there, you you show the essentially that's um yeah, that's your timber mat or swamp mat that you've got there. You're going to kind of use that sort of a platform to start and then lay this thing down on top of it. So,
>> exactly. Um because then, you know, we eliminate the stone baskets going in. We eliminate the need for the the potential back fill, right? which as you said with the with the water going up. >> That's the only thing I'm concerned with is the back.
>> Yeah. You had to if you had to get a longer one such that you could spend more than 20 ft, you know, free. Does that really change things a lot tremendously? Is it >> It would put it into like a a steel type
uh bridge. Um easier to deal with. >> Yeah. I mean, this is cuz like I we have one that's like 80 ft longer. It's a former railroad car deck basically. But 80 ft is probably can't make the angle
get on it. Make sure this is >> Yeah. Yep. >> Hopefully somewhere. >> Yeah, I'm I'm I'm fine with that. And and if we get in there and it's um we'll get in there ahead of time,
probably do some clearing maybe even late this fall in. And >> yeah. Yeah. Cuz my only concern is having all that that back fill out still construction season with higher and lower water levels going through. Um, I think
going through and you clear it all out and then maybe be able to reassess the plan. I don't I don't know how that would work out. I don't want to delay this project any longer than it has. But and then I'm just concerned of what we're going to be clearing out. It's not [Applause]
going to spread it. But that's that's one way or the other. >> It's certainly not critical path. We can I appreciate you accommodating us on the agenda here, but I things you're trying to do right inspection act and the commission's
designs here not to have anything in this flood zone area or conveyance area. Yeah, that'd be the long-term plans after this project cuz we it's been on our list anyway, but on the back of the list because we too many other things,
but that would be a good time to do it. >> We want Dan, we don't want to give Dan too good of access to come see us. So, [Applause] And you want to do as little as possible, but you also want it to last. >> Yeah. And I And I want something that's
it breaks down in in the middle of your construction, then it's going to be worse. >> Yeah. And I want something that's I wanted something that's maintainable and clearly uh within the bounds of what or not, you know. So if it's take take get rid of
the gavons if if it can work with the two landings as we have and that 30 foot span um not to come back [Applause] I don't know how our days work but minor
plan change if we have to go a longer span and it is even less service um to keep I did show some ramp ups here you see the gravel on the west Um, obviously that's just >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Well, that's construction entrance
stuff, right? >> Yeah. [Applause] And not do more excavation to put the bridge down, you know. I mean, I would have want something there anyway because I don't want trucks bringing dirt coming in.
>> Yeah. And we'll have um in fact to to your point maybe it's a longer section of stone. >> Yeah. I was say almost Yeah. It's almost like a construction like a construction entrance to get it to clean off. >> Sorry. >> Oh, it'll be you know restricted access.
We'll um you know on out on the street it'll be uh fenced off. We'll find a place to tie it in. So you're not you're not going to get errant vehicles driving down here thinking it's somewhere to go sightseeing or something. >> Great for
snowmobiles. >> It's not going to snow this winter. I don't. Yeah, north of the border. I'm good. I need to snot there thoughts. I think as long as we know that we're going to have a chance to reassess once the area is cleared
out, make sure that this plan is going to work. Yeah. you >> Heather. >> Yeah, that's I I think I think it's best to have the area cleared out and then reassess and see what it actually looks like. I think going forward it's right
now it's >> like a little an unknown and what the that bank looks like. Um especially on the East Main Street side. >> I I saw it when it was just the covert was just
removed and it wasn't that white. at that point in time. >> Yeah. >> So maybe it's just eroded away, I guess. I don't know. And gotten wider, but it wasn't very wide. >> Yep. Yeah. Who knows? >> Well, that's the thing because Exactly.
When are you When would you be getting in there to clear? >> Um we've got some other um you know, we've got some other uh items under the other order conditions. Um,
right now we're um I dive into where we're at. We're looking at we're going at a uh later a later winter start on this and you know we've kind of >> maybe next spring >> uh 26. Yeah. There's some activities we'd like to do
>> this fall such as the the larger tree removals, some >> uh prep along the West Main Street edge. Um, and there's some uh invasive species. Our our our um
restoration wetland restoration consultant needs to get in there and do some assessment um this fall. And I think there's five or six mature trees that are clearable. So, and the reason for that is really just uh
yeah, the full duration of the activity. I mean there's a lot of there was a lot this was a a project had a significant amount of engineering on the contractor coordination and sheet piling and and shoring and phasing and you know um so
we've uh been hard at work at that and seen where the project fits best for uh competing with the national grid constraints on taking uh heating. I would end up if we had started earlier, we would have ended up in a place where we need to sit and wait till April 15th
until they can cut the gas lines. >> Yeah. >> So, it was really just sort of timing that and um and make sure we had things in order so we didn't take a work zone and have everybody >> upset with us that there was nothing going on. >> They're waiting the traffic light.
>> Yeah. So, we're minimizing disruption. So, you know, right now we're still doing some preliminary shop drawing, submitts, things like that. and and we probably wouldn't be hitting it hard until early next year. But there are a few things but between now and then doing
>> so when you get in there and get it cleared then you're going to or when you are getting ready to do that you contact Heather let her know that this is going once she we can get back there and take a look see you'll go back and take a look and reassess.
>> Mhm. I think that's the best and we can hold on to the application as it sits now. Um, but I think granting them permission to do that clearing to get that better idea is is is best first as as an administrative item and then if
this what was submitted here works, we'll throw it back on the agenda vote and sign. Um, if not, then we can get a revised plan at that point and and go forward with that. But I think at this point just the administrative approval to do the clearing to assess it is probably the best route to go because I
don't want to approve something or have the commission approve something that's just going to have to go through and be changed because we don't know what it looks like. >> Yeah. So do we do I I have no problem withdrawing this or so you have to keep it open every meeting or or uh whatever works.
>> Administrative works. Yeah, we can do a withdrawal withdrawal without prejudice on it just to make sure we have the records clear and then we can just can just hold on to it. If we end up doing change, you know, keeping it then we can just >> Okay.
>> change the dates on it and move forward on that. >> Yeah, I didn't I think I don'tmit it to D EDP until it's approved by the commission. I forget how that works, but I did not submit to ED. >> Yeah. No, I didn't think it did because I didn't get any comments back. So, >> all right. So, I will leave it. I'm sure
they would have comments. Do >> you have a sense if this bridge isn't going to work and you need to put down a big steel bridge, is that going to be more like an NOI or is that still going to be an RDA?
>> I'm thinking with those rock baskets on the edge and the back fill to me seeing that made me think more of an R an NOI on that aspect of it. Just plopping something on top seemed more of an RDA to me. >> Yep. Okay. Yep. That's why I'm like, let's see if we don't have to do that.
>> So, that'll that'll be better. >> Like you said, you kind of look at it and you're like, it's not this wide. And, you know, but then you start trying to get a straight rectangle of fit that's meets both rows are kind of angled on both. So, >> it is kind of >> that's where it's like, ah, need to be longer. So,
>> we'll get in there, be able to survey it once we clear. Um, so we'll probably communicate with you in the next few weeks that we'll do some clearing. No stumping or any like lock clearing, but just some some limbs and >> large trees that we need to get out here.
>> Um, and that time we'll be able to get a little closer to it. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> So, how do you how do you do that withdraw without prejudice? >> You just they make the request to withdraw
without prejudice and the commission makes a motion to vote to approve that. I just didn't want to have to show up and you have to look at me every Thursday. So, >> it's just easier to do. >> You didn't want to show up. >> I I don't know. I'm not sure if it's 100% the way the planning board does it
because I've never actually had one happen, but like h we'll just cover it that way. What's the worst that could happen? >> Yeah. I didn't want you to have to I've been in front of much more difficult situations where it's like I should have withdrawn that so they don't have to
vote. Yeah, cuz we I don't think we don't have the same um if it's denied, you can't come back situation. >> Yes, because zoning does. Um so >> accept the withdrawal
and then >> motion to accept the the withdrawal. >> So move >> second say I. >> I oppose. Nay. >> Passes unanimously. Appreciate it. >> Thanks for showing us. >> Yeah. Look forward to
putting it through reality soon here. >> Yeah. Thanks, commissioners. >> Good to see you. Usually you get to see Matt. >> You see you. >> Yeah, >> true short straw. >> We have that little puck thing. Where'd that go? Oh, thank you.
>> I bet we I don't think we need it for the rest of the meeting. I just want to make sure. Kibble. So, our next item this evening, we continued this public hearing until our next meeting, didn't we? >> We continued it to this meeting. >> To this meeting? Oh, I thought it was
>> um there was a question on whether or not it continued based on site visit or planning and or planning board comments. >> Um I got a call yesterday from Jim from GPR um saying that they were going to
have to continue. So, I I did get the continuation letter. for their pressing continuation to the next meeting >> which is the 11th >> day is the 11th >> is the 11th >> so to the >> 25th this meeting >> I must have not have updated the agenda
>> 25th >> so what would that beth >> 25th um >> just so you know where they are they the request to continue to do they continue is based on um some of the comments made
during the last meeting particularly the meeting the the comment that I had made in regards to the um alternative for the for the waiver request they have to show that they couldn't do it any other way and that's why they have to go to the 50oot and I asked about the retaining
wall that is an option that they are going to work with so that they're not encroaching so much in the 50 they still might have to do some but it will be less than so they're working to retweak the plans to add that retaining fall onto the plans and some other items based on comments. So that's so they're
just revising the plans based on those so that they've asked for the continuation to the 25th >> instead of a bunch of grading into the 50. >> Correct. Any other comments on this motion to continue the public hearing
notice of intent D file number to be determined. Creative Materials 12 Willow Street until our next meeting which is September 25th. >> So move >> second. >> All in favor say I. >> I. Oppose. >> Passes unanimously. >> We also don't have D comments yet
either. So >> great. Do we got a number yet? >> No. >> No number. >> No nothing. So we'd have to continue anyway. But >> that's that. >> Conservation office updates. >> Um one item first. um the
certificate of compliance that was issued on last June um 2024 for the um Littleton Roa Curly Circle that um never got recorded and has been misplaced.
So I have another one for you all to sign so they can have that to record. Um I forgot for the last meeting, but there's that. So we have that. No, there's no vote needed. It's just a a matter of a signature because it was
already voted to be approved on. Dates are all the same. It's just it got original got lost and never got recorded. And then we won't have people calling every lot that sells, which is where that one came up from before I forget that.
like I did last meeting. Um other updates, um just so you were all aware, um it came up during a planning board meeting in regards to Lincoln Hills that some of the residents think that some of the emails that they're sending aren't being answered or
addressed and because we do make comments as as department heads on the plans that come before the planning board. um not just the the town planner but myself and other departments. So when they did the landscape plan for
um the Lincoln Hills site plan it's not subdivision but it is but the site plan they had um all native plants and uh trees and shrubs along for street trees and shrubs but the individual um housing units had a detailed planting plan that didn't
include any native plants. they were all non-natives. So, I asked them to update those to add native plants, which they did. So, al although we do not have jurisdiction on that property, um the comments I I do tend to try to make some just
conservation type comments as far as ecosystems and stuff. So they they did update the plans for that similar to that of the um the parking area um in regards to uh lighting for that to make sure that we're not disrupted
everything's a low light direct on the on the actual parking lot that won't disrupt any of the wildlife in the area. Just wanted to put it Yeah. I I just Yeah, it >> it's at the top of the hill, so any light's going to go >> I Well, they they do have a candle light plant, so it doesn't actually go off. But it and it has to be safety for the
the police as well. But I just I know that comment was made during the planning board meeting. So if anybody does watch these meetings, I want them to make sure that they know that as department heads, we do review all the plans that come through. We do make comments and those do change the plans. And a lot of those comments that are
made at the meetings are ones that I had made as well. So we're all working together. they're all on the same page. We're all trying to do the same thing and it's it is we everyone's looking at it in the same aspect of it. Even if we don't have conservation on there, I still just >> if I can I I'll throw some little
tidbits in there. They did do one similar to the um senior uh senior housing on Palm Street. That was obviously outside of our jurisdiction. Um but there was three trees that were being removed as part of the plans without any plans to replant them. They are going to replant three trees there.
So, you know, small victories. But just so just in case everyone's aware that as watches meetings this is what we we are doing. Um >> you don't think a lot of people watch these meetings like everyone. >> I mean the last meeting we did have 29 views. So >> No kidding.
>> 28. Oh yeah. Well last meeting >> last meeting was a bigger one but so we do get some um the I mentioned this when we were waiting for our meeting to start um to a couple of you. The Newton Street Festival we how we we're going to be giving out seeds. Um, I thought since I
was going to try to attempt to sew seeds inside of a milk jug or water jug >> to uh show people how you can do that over the winter and then like plant them that it might be beneficial to instead of just just having a pollinator like metal mix that we also have individual
just like particular plants and that would be what we would I could show in that jug to show. I think that would be and people could pick which one they like if they want to do a wildflower mix or if they want to do an individual plant that they can put in their yard. That's inevitable if anyone has any
comments on that or care. >> Sounds lovely. >> Just want to make sure it's it's our budget. I want to make sure I'm spending it responsibly. Um yesterday I attended a webinar the state is launching and I could pull it up a
new um program for um climate resiliency. It was done through a grant program what for and it's called the a climate change handbook. Um, and it's really neat,
um, item that basically I'll show you guys this cuz it is really fascinating. Um, it puts everything that the state is doing, every program or anything that anyone's done in regard to climate change and throws it all onto this
website. So you can take a look at um like playbook actions. It breaks everything down into the five sections that the state does for climate resiliency. Is it going to is it going to go is it
just going to search? There we go. and it breaks everything down and to all these you can you can search things by filters by projects by climate resilience themes or you have these other items here in blocks. So say you
wanted to get help as a as a town professional or organization whether it's conservation commission or planning board on climate resilient bylaws that you would want to look at. you click on it and it tells you how to do it or other examples of it and it has like 12
or 15 different things like that. I just thought it was really neat and I thought we should share it. I'm going to bring it to the um land use too when we have a next land use meeting um because it it covers everything. It has cold water assessments and bylaws and dams and
emergency protocols and flood plane and green infrastructure maintenance. just anything you could possibly think of that may you might think of of climate change. It it's all combined in here and like I said it has two different avenues. It has the playbook in it then
it has um the actions playbook and then it has planning resources which basically does the same thing in uh on just in a different avenue of it. But um that just got released I think yesterday.
Um, but it's a it's if you have time on your hands and you want to play around with it, it's just I don't I think it's a really um neat asset that we are all going to have now to use to work um so we can try to get more um current resiliency projects and and more help in
planning that stuff throughout the town because it is it can be daunting when you when you try to think about it. But to have other examples of it across the state all in one area that you can search is is really nice. Um,
so that's that was that um fun thing. Um, MACC uh fall conference is on October 25th and registration for that is now open if
anybody is interested in that. >> Is that the worester? >> That is a Devon one. So nice and close. >> Nice and close. nice and close. Um they are going to be having I think they said they're going to be offering um 10 fundamentals if anyone is missing any.
They will be offering 10 different fundamentals um during that time whether I think they're either online or during or in person. They will have the majority of them at that meeting as well. Um and if anyone has any ideas for the workshops for the annual, they're
accepting those now too. Um, I don't know if I have anything else right now. >> Jen, got anything for us? >> George, >> no. >> With regards to the fundamentals. So, >> yes, >> since they are coming up in like two
weeks. >> Um, I know I still need some real basic fundamentals to get my >> a certificate >> certificate or whatever. Um, do we have money in the budget for that if I >> Oh, yeah, we do. Oh yeah, we do. We have money in the budget and they have the conference is not till October 25th.
>> You bet. I can't make the conference. >> Hm. >> I can't make the conference. >> Oh, okay. >> But they've got like >> Oh, they have some online. Okay. Yeah, >> they got like the fundamentals and the first >> if you if you do the I can sub if you submit the reimbursement, >> okay, >> avenue of it,
>> credit card thing and all that. >> Yeah, there's money in the budget. If anyone wants to attend anything, there's there's always money in the budget. I think they're >> I would love to think of $65 or something up if we're MACC member. >> H >> said I think it's like 65 if you're MACC
me. Yeah, here we go. >> Yeah, MACPC member is 65 bucks. >> Yep. >> Student. I'm not a student anymore. >> Now, if you need help registering it, just let me know and I can email or you can email them and and they're very very
helpful. So, so this is so if it's a refresher, if you've already taken it, a non-member can take it again for another $25. >> Yeah. >> But if you're taking it for the first time as an MACC member, you got to pay 65. >> I don't I got I got my fundamentals L
certificate 14 15 years ago. I could probably use a reset. >> Show one. >> Okay. Um, I want these lights like they have in cutter
>> so they look like palm tree bomb. >> Yeah, cuz that would fit in here. >> You want me to put that in the send me the light embedded palm trees fit in >> Doha? >> I'm not putting that in the chair. I >> saw those. >> I saw those online when they were showing something else on news. I was like, "Wow, check out the street
lights." I didn't care about the news store, but the street lights are super cool. We could have ones that look like um white pines. >> That'd be nice. >> So if it's the cell towers, it could be a a light >> like giant hogweed or something. Maybe
>> only only in New York. We don't we don't have too much of it here. >> Somebody >> posted online that they had some around and I'm like that doesn't look like giant because it only looked like about her head's height. >> Giant is >> it's like eight n feet that stuff.
>> Anyway, yeah. Um, >> yeah, I don't think I have any updates. >> That's it. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Any other discussion at all? Motion to move. >> Second. All in
>> favor say I. I. Oppose. Nay. Passes. Tune in.