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Benoit at air.mma. us or 9787728220 extension 145 prior to the meeting. Thank you, Trish. Okay. So, declaring the Monday, March
9th meeting of the Air For Health called to order. The first thing that we're going to take care of is a public hearing on changes to the animal rigs. So, I'm going to read the public hearing notice for that part of the meeting. Public hearing notice. The Air Board of
Health will be conducting a hybrid public hearing at 5:30 on Monday, March 9th, 2026 at Air Town Hall, 1 Main Street. regarding the update and review of the keeping of animal and fowl regulations. Draft copies of the regulations are available upon request
at the board of health office. For Zoom call-in information, please contact espano@air.mma. us or 978-77282 extension145. And this was advertised twice in the
Nova Valley Voice on February 20th and February 27th. So, first of all, my apologies to everyone for for coming here late. I was looking at the one clock in my living room that
I forgot to change and I was thinking I was at town hall this afternoon. It seems like there's an awful lot of time is going kind of slowly here. But did it dawn on me? No. So, I'm very very very sorry for I know you take time out of your day to come here. So I really
apologize for wasting your time. So um what we have done and I don't know if anyone has um check the new and the revised regulations but we've just made um a few changes to kind of clarify
things mostly and to improve the readability of the regulations. But there are a couple of new things. So to just kind of give you a summary of what we're doing here, um the thing that makes it look has anyone looked at the the redline version because the the
redline PDF will show you exactly what the changes are. It looks like there are more red lines than there are because some of the sections were kind of moved around. In the original regulation,
there was this um under section 4 for permits, there was the section A for applications and there wasn't like really a separate permitting process and standards of care
is a separate thing. So, you'd be reading along about permitting and then all of a sudden it would say something like has to be 100 feet from the property line. was like what does this have to do with permitting? This is should be down with all of the other sections. So that was the like kind of
big structural change was to kind of put the things in permitting that have to do with permitting and putting the things in like standards of care and um the permitting process that belong there. So
by way of just kind of blanket explanation I I would say just see where there are a lot of comments where sometimes I will say it was a a new section or just moved from a different place. So the comments are also a little helpful.
Um so to go through kind of the specific changes we're doing of you can only have a permit if you reside at the location. so that you can then control that permit as it's administered on your property.
Um, these things about a butter lists and written plans for disposal of waste is just moved from what used to be later in the regulation. Um, there's also just a watch out in here. It's not really anything that
we're regulating directly, but at the bottom of page three of the the redlinined version, we're adding a note here that you're advised to verify with the conservation commission location and scope of, you know, activities if you're
near a wetland. And that's not our regulation. That's the conservation regulation, but you should be aware of it if you're looking at these kinds of activities. Um again there's like some rearranging um of things
and there are a couple of things that as a board we've just kind of looked at um some some wording that I wasn't really sure about with with renovate what what are we talking about here with
renovations. So there's some clarification of title, zoning enforcement, building commissioner instead of building department. Um, one of the significant changes as it might affect you, hopefully not, is in
the section for permitting process, we are adding a late fee. And that's something that you're seeing happening across boards in town. There's a late fee if your dog licensed now. Um and that's mainly because
the administrative tasks for reing or renewing the batch of um applications if you're a renewer. So you can apply for a new permit any time that you happen to want to acquire chickens. But you if you already have a permit and you're
renewing, those are the ones to kind of watch because you want to renew it before that application is is really due. you have to get the application in by May 31st. Can submit it earlier than that so that we can get the inspection done and get
all the paperwork done, but it's just so that it doesn't stra forever through the year and we're still come the turn of the following year, we're still dealing with straggling renewals. It makes just makes it really hard to plan resources for that stuff. So, that is what's
behind the um the late fee. Um, let's see. There are Oh, there's another tie into conservation just that we are we're going to notify them. Um, again, it's
not you just so that they're aware of activity, but it doesn't it's not anything that we're going to enforce there. Um along with the idea of having to be a resident. Um there's you can't transfer
to a different person. Um you've got a it's a like a person that the permit is issued to. It's combination of the person and the the area the area where you're going to be keeping the animals. Um, when we get into standards of care,
there is it's a new section, but as I noted in the comment here, these requirements all came from other places in the regulation. They were just pretty out of order in in the places that they were originally in. Then there's no
changes at all there for facilities for keeping animals. Um there is another new section and this is one of the ones that we think is a fairly significant thing is that the holder of the permit is responsible for preventing rodent
infestation infestations. And the best way to do that of course is to just keep your feed really locked up. It's kind of the same thing with bird seed and bears and things environments getting into your bird seed. They'll they do it with chicken feed too. Um, and once you have
a rat problem, they can be really hard to eradicate. So, just, you know, and use whatever means, you know, the most responsible within your own ethics. You know, you have a lot of options there for rodent control. We're not telling you what what
you need to do, but just kind of keep an eye on the rodent situation. Um the other area of change is for people who have poultry. We added a line item here about
kind of calling your attention to this particular strain of bird flu that's going through and it's in wild birds. And there have been a couple of domestic flocks in Massachusetts that have had to be destroyed because it got in there and they think it's from sort of maybe
migrating birds or water birds that are coming and may might be landing there and getting a drink or a little bit of bird feed and then like moving on but somehow that transmission. So, there's some good resources um that I found on
both the Mass Agricultural Resources website and also um on like the US Department of Agriculture and they're just kind of best practices for keeping your flock healthy and fairly isolated from like wild birds.
Um, and then there is a new section about right to inspect. And that's because we do need to verify that what's going on in your operation, if you could call it that. I don't know if having two
or three chickens constitutes a poultry operation, but for lack of a better word, Julie, the animal inspector, um goes in at least once a year to just verify that things are as they were described in the permit. So, if you
applied for five chickens, you don't have 50 of them running around. If you had the coupe in a particular location or it was a certain size that Yeah, that's that's still the situation. So, that's part of what they're verifying.
They're also doing um like a check for do they see any rodent activity? Do they see any areas of concern with maybe food that isn't um you know sort of tightly controlled? And what Julie and Bridget,
who is the health agent, who I'm sure many of you know, tend to do is they will make contact with you and just try to give you some educational materials and resources to help you understand how to better prevent those kinds of
problems. So, it's not to it's not any kind of a lengthy inspection. It's just that we're having a we're having an issue with rodents in town with rats in particular and it's really hard to nail down the rat activity if you can't like
go there when somebody reports it and and look. So that's kind of what this right to inspect is is really all about. It's so that we can kind of quickly look at things that might be an issue. Um
and none of the other things change with um fines or anything like that. So that is the sort of rundown and I know that I'm really glad that a lot of you got PDFs
so you can see exactly what the changes are. So there's a couple of things that as a board that we need to discuss that are in here as questions. We can do that after we hear from you. But this is a public hearing and it's our opportunity
to hear from you. So, whoever would like to make comments or suggestions or whatever input you have, please feel free to do so. Just tell us your name so that Sam can write that down. um maybe
come up to the um chair if you know, especially if you're way in the back and we're having trouble hearing you, but you know, you can do what you're most comfortable with. You're certainly welcome to come up. >> We do have one on Zoom. >> We have one on Zoom. >> Okay. >> She has a question.
>> All right. Let's let's start off with a Zoom question. Start off with someone who's not even here. >> Oh, name and address, too. >> Yeah. Great. Rachel, if you want to ask, you can. >> Hello, Rachel Kazera, 30 Graten Harvard
Road. Um, I am uh just ask, excuse me, I'm so sorry. We have a puppy and he was getting into trouble. >> That's okay. >> Um, so I just wanted to suggest, um, you just mentioned about a rodent problem. Um and I recently attended it was a
seminar regarding kind of that whole entire um >> topic which is really random to say but um I just um I don't know if anyone uses different products but I just wanted to suggest to try to use um different
methods that aren't poisoning um like the >> the hawks and the eagles that we have here. Yeah. if people are using um I think they're called rosent rosenticides >> roenticides. Yes, >> sorry it's a hard word. Um that there um
I know a really good option is instant mashed potatoes and so um because the uh rats can't um regurgitate. It's not very nice to think about, but um that isn't a kind of like an eco way to deal with things.
>> There's other things like that, too. So, I just wanted to mention that just because um we knock on wood, we don't have any troubles like that. >> Um but I just wanted to mention that just because um I guess it's a problem other places. So, >> yeah, it has been and you're right there
there are a lot of concerns about what are you doing to the environment? You know, how bad is your problem? You don't want to start with the nuclear option. So, I would say for sure start with sort of good practices for the keeping of your of your feed. I know even for my um
I have metal barrels that I keep bird seed in. I've got to bungee the tops shut to just make sure that nothing gets in there. So, >> okay. Well, thank you so much. I appreciate your time. Have a nice night. >> Thank you for your input. >> But you the issue I have with roses is
Yeah, I keep the food secure as much as possible, but I got a garden. Those rats do a number on my apples and on my >> Yeah. So, I mean, it's it's very frustrating. I'd like to take a gun and >> I know. >> I know. I hear you. Yeah. Yep. Exactly.
>> And I I trap them. I put the traps out. I catch a few and then they get smart and I don't catch any for a while. >> Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Um, do you want to come up and tell us about your >> your concerns and questions? You can. Or
is it mostly just, you know, the comments? >> Yeah, the comments issues with the Roth. I mean, I have concerns about it. But >> yeah, >> I've got them. They come in my house. I got a stone foundation. So >> Oh, I know. I have the same problem. Yeah, mice. Soon as it gets warm, you know, starts to get too cold
>> from the for the bird food. I'm hiding my food, so they can't find that. >> Yeah, I know. I I know what you mean. It's like a It's constant battle. We're under under assault. Um I can ask um do we have any like resources? I I know
that Nishova did the like the the rodent sheet, I guess, information sheet that we were going to send out along with um the applications for renewal this year. So, because this is kind of a concern that's on multiple people's minds, let me check
in with uh Bridget and Julie again and see if there's anything else that we can provide you with. I mean, it's hard as individuals to do the research. So I was really surprised when I looked into the aven flu at the resources that were available at um mass agriculture and
also at the the feds. So if we can give you a list of resources, we'll try to do that. >> That be helpful. >> Okay. Thank you. What's your um can you give Sam? >> I'm up here. >> Thank you. >> Anyone? I see a hand. >> My name is Anna Mayor.
I was at my mountain world >> and yes along those lines does the board of health have the authority to um require in certain the nonuse of
and and then just say in which circumstances you could use them emergency or whatever but to but to restrict it in any way in these regulations Some towns are starting to look at that. It's a, you know, one of the problems is
it's a legal product to sell in the state. So, it's very hard to restrict the use of something. I know that there are I think there's one in the Senate and maybe one in the House at the state level that's been proposed to um just
eliminate the sale of make it illegal to acquire in the state the really bad ones. >> Well, it could be just a a recommendation like reduce, reuse, recycle. >> It's up here. It's right here. >> It's Okay, I guess we're all set. Um, yeah,
as I said, we'll we'll look and see what kind of um rodent resources that we could maybe find to put in a a package for people that are doing this. I mean, it's kind of a problem that we've got as a board of health on the rodenticides is
that we're always kind of trying to balance out the what do you do if there's a really bad infestation and you know and it it's like a critical matter that has to be dealt with. So unfortunately there are
still some circumstances where the as I think of it the nuclear option for rodenticides you sort of have to have available as a possibility. I certainly wouldn't advise anyone to do that as a start. It is it's terrible for
the environment and it's dangerous for kids and pets >> you know. So yeah I'll try to give some some resources for that. Yes. Right. raptors are are in trouble. And you know, >> dogs,
>> I am always worried about what my dogs could be getting into constantly. >> Really? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Oh. And I got it away from thankfully, but you can tell because the blood comes out
of their nose. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That's You're right. That's what I worry about too with my dogs is not necessarily that they're going to pick up the poison, but they're going to get something that has been poisoned and >> Yeah. and get it that way.
>> Yes. It's kind of frightening actually. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> I had I had a dead rodent in the house that decayed. I couldn't find it. Oh, >> that's the worst. Yeah. >> Yep. Yeah. I know. I know. No, you've got to
it's double-edged sword with the rodenticides. You know, you don't want the rodents, but you don't want to destroy everything else in the process. >> I would recommend having that language. The preference is to use nonides only in
emergency situations or to something that deploys other animals in your neighborhood. Yeah, let's um as I said, I'll look in the educational materials what we can find and we'll try to present you know some balanced information on what are you know
preferable oricides or you know maybe ways to to start off and >> I would prefer just on record I would like to prefer it stronger >> the difficulty too that we have with that is enforcement because we don't
have the resources nor Do people that have chicken permits want us going out there and looking at with our spy glass? What do you do? What what are you feeding your rats? You know, it's like >> but just saying that there's a preference by the town that thereides
be used as a last resort. Um doesn't mean that you necessarily have to enforce that. It would just be in the regulation that that's your preference. So if you do find information that person's using that, you could recommend or say that don't use that or You know, it doesn't have to be like Yeah. stick,
but it's a strong recommendation by the town. >> Yeah. Yeah, I hear what you're saying. All right. >> Writing and regulation. >> We'll take that under consideration for further discussion. There's an input. Um, anyone else? Yes.
Back row. >> I'm Jennifer King at Union Street. >> Hi. >> Um, I had a question about the right to inspect. >> Yes. Um the second sentence maybe not inspired
to the owner. I feel like that's a little broad. I know I know it's just >> Yeah. No, no, it and it is it it is broad. I I agree that that it is broad and it's
in there primarily because as I said it's kind of a matter of if you get a report that something is happening on a property Julie and Bridget are very quick to respond oftentimes but you've got to
respond and be able to see what's going on you know for yourself. So, it's not that we have no interest in going and, you know, nosing around people's properties. It's it's more for that situation where we've got to go look at
what's going on here. And we have a lot of um Julie and Bridget have it's a day job for them, too. And another difficulty with people with chicken permits is that a lot of people work and are, you know, not home during the day
when they're on. So it becomes a game of trying to, you know, match up when the homeowner or the permit holder and the inspector both have the time and oftentimes by then it's kind of a, you know, a point. Whatever was there is
moved on. So >> as much as I appreciate that tension, I still I still feel like it's too broad. I mean, >> yeah, I hear you. >> That's giving complete access to >> Yep. I definitely hear you. And it's private property and >> although I like you all, it's still a
government intrusion. >> Yeah, exactly. Okay, >> Pam. >> Yep. >> Can you hear me? It's Bridget. Sorry. On that note, I just want to say so if there's a problem, um I I don't really like to go on people's property without them knowing, even if it says that in
the regulation. So, usually what I'll do is just call to coordinate and say, "Hey, you know, we got a complaint. Um can we come by at such and such a time? And if you're not there, are we okay?" you know, we don't I I really don't I'm not comfortable just showing up on somebody else's property. >> Yeah.
>> Unless, again, there's a true emergency. >> Yeah. I'm wondering if maybe um anybody else have input on the property >> I access. Yeah, I hear you. Y needs to be more coordinated and I understand your aspect
of if there's a problem. >> Yeah. >> And I think Pam if you don't mind. Um >> I'm sorry, but there's a there's a gentleman um speaking. I don't know if you could hear him, Bridget. >> No, >> sorry. I can't hear.
>> Basically, like it's a double-edged sword. You have, you know, you would like as a property owner, I would like advanced notice so I can >> But as a town and as an inspector like Bridget for inance, if there's a true problem, >> if you give too much advanced notice,
that problem can hide. Yeah, I think I think it's a little too broad. I think that some sort of requirement for that should be an assessment. >> Yeah. Okay. Okay. So, we got a couple on those. Bridget, um,
>> do you >> do you want to finish what you were saying lag? >> Yeah, I know. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead, Bridget. So, I think the other part of the problem, too, is the the reason it's important to have that in there about us coming on the property is people don't call us back. They don't
respond if there's a complaint. And that has been happening. Um, >> and and and that, you know, if again, we've had some pretty serious problems with rats um and destroying neighbors property. And if we can't get on the prop the property
to to see what's going on, then we lose time in trying to fix the situation. >> Yeah. I wonder if we could because as you say, Bridget, this really only comes up if it's a a bad situation
or an emergency situation. I wonder if we could craft some language that says something like um in the event that that you're notified that that there is a problem and an inspection is needed that you know there's some number of days by which you
have to respond or >> you know just something to that effect because definitely I mean part of the agreement that you enter into when you
take the permit that is that this these controlling rodents that may be attracted by your and I'm going to say chickens because that's what most of our permits are but attracted by your chickens. They're your problem to manage. Your neighbors didn't get the chickens. You got the chickens. So, it
does have to be on the permit holder to do this. But we probably don't need to have the wording quite this broad that it sort of implies that we could come on anytime, any day, and look at anything.
How do people feel about tying it to some sort of a circumstance? >> I if I'm not a I'm not available on the phone a lot of times. If they send me a text, I want to be here at such and such a time. come. >> Yeah, we'll be ready for you. >> Yeah, I got you. >> Yeah, you could pick your vehicle. You
could you could do a text alert. You could do it with registered mail like you did the notice for this meeting. Yeah. >> I mean, there are other options available that are quote unquote official on the record. >> Yeah. Okay. >> As opposed to just showing up. So, there are other vehicles available for that.
>> That's Yeah, that's reasonable. And that actually feels more right to me too >> than you know >> for people to speak in the micro for speaking on a turn. I just can't hear what the gentleman's saying. I apologize. >> Okay.
>> Just that um there are are like other ways that we could notify the permit holder that there's an issue that we have to get on there to inspect. So, if we tied the the right to go on and inspect like within a certain number of
days, then we we would notify them either through registered mail or um through, you know, an email or a phone if we can work it out that way. Maybe what we could do on the permit application is have, you know, what's your preferred method of contact?
So, what's the best way to get a hold of you? Are you a cell phone person? Are you a text person? Are you an email? Are you a mailbox person? So, >> you know, there's not We have a lot of permits, but not so many that we couldn't >> manage that.
>> Okay. Yeah, there was good input. Thank you. >> Thank you. Um, anything else? >> Yeah, sure. Go ahead. >> The microphone. Yeah, come. Yeah. Is that
>> Yeah, the one at the very end there. Yeah. >> Um I just have a concern about the re Oh, this is Anna Mayor on Nine Mountain Laurel Road. Again, >> thank you. >> I have a concern about the renewal of the permit. Um >> yeah, >> not a big concern, but you you refer
back to number five and six, which is a written plan for the management and list of abutters that we wouldn't have to submit as a renewal. Um, but I I request to expand that to also not having to put in a plot plan back in if it's still the
same. Like if everything is the same, then I would I would say just renew. Um, >> that's usually how I handle it. I don't always get I haven't gotten if you have one, I don't ask or hunt you down for a plot plan. >> Well, then you need to change this one.
this um number 13 which is renewal applications for existing permits may omit the information in five and six above. Yeah. >> If there have been no changes but that's only the management plan but not the plot plan and everything else. So >> I would expand that. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. That that actually is fair. Um we could probably even handle that with um like a question. Are there any changes to any of the following? Yes. No. And if they're all no then and if they are >> submit the revisment. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> That's a good one. >> That is a good one. Thank you. >> See for you. All right. Anything else? >> It doesn't say the amount of of what the
uh late fee would be. Is that somewhere else? >> It would. >> Unless I missed it. >> It does say a late fee of about of $50. >> I'm looking for where what section we said.
>> What section is >> Yeah, it's Yeah, it's >> it's 3A. Yeah. >> Yeah, >> I know. Yes. And I missed the date last year for my dog licenses, so I had to pay it.
It pinches. Yeah, it really does. It really does. >> And they changed the deadline on the dog licenses. They looked up a month. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. You should consider maybe scaling that an equal distance with the actual cost
of the permit. The permit's $35 is $50. It's a little upside down. and more pointed out. >> Yeah. Yeah. True. On the other hand though, >> if you're renewal, you've had your permit for up to a year, you know, when
it expires. >> But even $20 would be an incentive. >> It just scal scalability wise, it just seems a little dispersed >> that you know might be 35, but 8 days is
Well, the that's how the dog licenses. >> Oh, no. I understand. >> That's only like $10, right? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Oh, I just heard something about a first offense. That That sounds interesting, too. Yeah.
>> Yeah. That's an option, too. Scalable. >> Yeah. Rachel is her hand raised. Rachel on you. >> Hello again, Rachel Kazera, 30 Graten Harvard Road. Um, I just had a quick question. Um, were these posted
anywhere? Um, I wasn't able to find them. Um, the regulations that you're reading from. Um, I just tried to review them before the meeting and I couldn't find them. So, I didn't know if they were private or if they were somewhere that I couldn't find. >> Oh, no, no, they're definitely not private. Um, >> they were private. It was just if you
wanted them just send me an email and I would have sent you a copy. >> Uh, okay. >> Yeah, because the website updated things got weird. So, >> I understand. I got you. >> Okay. All righty. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. >> All right. Thank you.
>> Okay. So, here's our renewal one. We to plug these things in. Anything else? Comments, suggestions. Okay, awesome. Fantastic.
So, um I just have to ask you on these questions. Do we close out the public hearing and then do deliberation or do we >> close the hearing when we're all done? >> Close the hearing when the whole meeting is done. >> Well, when we're done with this portion.
Yes. >> Okay. And that includes any deliberation. >> Any deliberation. >> All right. I got you. I can't keep straight on the timing for when you >> We don't do them terribly often here. So >> Yeah. Exactly. We don't. We don't. Um,
so Bridget, there's just a couple of questions in here that I think um I kind of wanted to clean up under this definition of um animals.
We've got reptiles and snakes included in the definition. We don't do permits for reptiles and snakes. So, I mean, I guess it doesn't hurt that it's in the definition, but we
do not do permits for nor do we want to for reptiles and snakes. So, I don't know. I mean, I guess they are an animal. So, I guess we could leave that one if it doesn't really bug anybody. Um, yeah. The other one was
>> It does say one who who applies for to keep one or more animals. So, it does all the animals that are listed. >> Yeah. But then there's an exemption for reptiles and snakes, I believe,
because the numbering got changed. So, when I was writing it up, it was in section four. Let's see if it still is or not. permits. It says no person shall own or operate without animals without a permit.
>> So you're saying there's a consumption section. >> Oh, it's right in the >> Yeah. So no person shall own or operate a facility. No permit shall be required for the keeping of uh household pets provided
that under no circumstances you can't say a swine, a sheep, a poultry, um a goat, a llama, an alpaca or something like that is a household pet. And I remember why we wrote it that way because of
pigs, pet pigs. And you if it's a household pet, you know, you might if you keep one of those pets have a case for an exemption from this if it's truly a household animal because
that, you know, could be one of those cases where is this being contradictory? But we don't say that a reptile or a snake can't be a household pet. So that's where I would say I think those qualify as as household pets.
like they're kind of covering the exemption. Um, but we are not we're not interested in your reptiles and your snakes. I've had a turtle for almost 30 years and he has never been licensed. So, I'm not
going to start now. All right. Um, yeah. But what about should conservation sign off? might actually change that too. We're we're going to notify >> um them they can provide input but it's like I didn't want our regulation to
kind of cross into theirs um yeah so initial application from zoning enforcement that's for a new one. Um,
got question. I thought there was one more question. Oh, on this Sam the thing with the abusers at the top of page five. >> Yes,
>> we talk about 100 ft. But then in the definition, so that ended up just being what? 100 or >> that was out. >> Yeah. I want to make sure I'm consistent with >> 100 was crossed out as 300. >> It was 300 and we crossed it up to one.
>> Yeah. Let's make it one >> because the applications kept saying 100 ft which is just your people right next to you whereas 300 ft ends up >> Yeah. We don't need to know the whole >> and your neighbor. >> Right. Right. Yeah. >> Their neighbors. Um
>> Yeah. >> So it was it was really just so >> it's narrowing the list. Yeah. >> Your direct neighbors. >> So 100 is the final number. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. 100 is the final number. Okay. Um, is there another
question? I don't think so. So, the questions that we got for consideration are, let me make sure that I've got a complete list so that we tackle everything. We have the
late fee We have something about um renewal applications, narrowing down what needs to be submitted. We have Yep, that's the only the new
information. Um, >> we do have a question on Pam. >> Okay. >> Um, >> oh, >> hi. >> Hi, Jacob Kazer at 30 Harvard Road. Um, sorry about the other phone issue earlier.
>> Oh, that was you. That's all right. It happens. Uh quick question about um what I've heard on just because I can't see like the updated bylaws but like the current ones 100 feet >> um you required your a butter's
permission if 100 feet from a dwelling not 100t from the property line. Is that changing now? >> No, it's still 100 feet of the property line. And it's not so much that you need their permission as you have to notify them so they have the opportunity to
come here and either >> Yeah. The the property line wasn't part of the previous language though. >> It was dwelling. >> In the previous language, we in the definition talked about 100 to
the property line, but let's make sure because that could be another inconsistency. So you're going to provide notice to notice of the hearing but is within 100 ft. So that doesn't really talk about
whether it's the dwelling or the property. >> Yeah. So I I think unless it's defined differently anywhere and that's what I'm looking for to make sure of that we didn't cross up our definitions. So, it it
looks like it's always been property lines. >> Um I know I was really thorough when we applied for our first one a few years ago and it was it was it was dwelling. Um, but maybe that's just just on the
the application form, not in the bylaws. Like >> Oh, I kind of wonder because I'm looking at a copy of the um the old regular like the one that would have been in effect at least like last year when you get your permit. And that's talking about
the property line, 300 feet to the property line. I wonder if it was the um do you think the application and the property line have a mismatch? Yeah, I don't I I definitely didn't review the bylaws, but I just looked at the application when we were building
our tape and it said 100 ft to dwelling >> back then. So, I just I just want to bring up that. >> No, I appreciate that because Yeah. >> Yeah. We want to be consistent with that. I think it's consistent in the regulation as property line. If the
application isn't, we can >> It's not on this either. This is the application. So, >> okay. I don't think >> unless it was an This is the slightly newer version of the application. It
could be have been an older >> Yeah. version. This is This is >> Yeah. It was during CO that we built our >> coup. Oh, okay. All right. >> Like really really conscious of not having to talk to people. >> Oh, no. I got you. You don't have to
talk to anyone. It it's just saying, you know, you tell us who the abuters are. You know, you go to the assessor and you get your list of abutters and then because they are official abutters, they get a notification of, you know, of a hearing if you're going to be issued a,
you know, new permit and they can object to that permit, but you don't have to get their approval. They don't, >> your butter can't just because they don't like you having chickens can't say you can't have chickens. So, it's more just to let the potentially affected
people know. >> All right. Well, thank you so much. >> No, thank you. Because I do want to catch as long as we're trying to clean this up. I want to catch inconsistencies. So, I appreciate that. >> Okay. >> Anything
anything else? Okay. So, we have um I think this is a really easy one, the um renewal application info. So
I will um go through this like draft again and just make sure that the language is in there to correctly describe what we said tonight that only if information has changed do you have to provide the new information and we'll
make sure there's checkbox for that on the application. um the rodenticides. I think that that was a good suggestion to give people educational materials and to point them to resources. I think it's
actually a slightly bigger decision in my opinion, but I want to hear from you too, Trish. >> I think we had when I can't remember. >> Yeah. Yeah. when they came and presented and it was right before they were going to go to the state house and they gave us all that material.
>> Was that >> Yeah, exactly. >> I have. >> Yeah. So, >> I know I can't remember the name of the group, but there is a ton of information and we would be happy to make that information available to people. >> It's just that
>> to say that you have to I have a thing about putting things in regulations that you're not going to enforce. It's like why in the law that you have to stop at a stop sign if nobody's ever gonna enforce it? Well, who would ever stop? Why don't we just take down the stop signs and save ourselves the trouble?
So, I'm always really concerned about things that we like don't really have a good ability to enforce without having to be too intrusive. You know, I'm monitoring what kind of rodenticide are you using and that that
sort of thing. But I certainly think that we can do something with the educational materials to get the point across that this is something you've got to think through. If you're going to choose a rodenticide, choose the right one. Just don't go out and buy the cheapest thing you can find
at the big box store. Think about what it's doing and how it affects the environment and your property. So, I'm kind of thinking we do it in educational and reference materials for now. And update later.
>> Yeah, it can always if we need to do something stronger with that, we can always go back to the well and do something stronger. But >> is it same reason? >> Yeah. Yeah. Oh my god. That's right. >> Off the top of my head. Yeah. When they came and presented because
>> that I that's already come and gone >> at the state house when they presented. >> Yeah. But I don't think they've voted. No. They haven't voted on the bill. >> Yeah. And so it's sit now. Okay. >> Yeah. And I know there's at least one. I can't remember if it was one of those.
There's one in the Senate and the House, but I know that there is at least one. >> Um, late fees. Oh, late fees. Nobody wants to pay their late fees. You don't want to pay your late fees. What is
>> excessive fee? Let's call it what it is. >> It's an inspirational fee. >> I think I Yeah. I I hear what you're saying. I do hear what you're saying. We have it as 50. I kind of like your idea though of doing a sort of graduated thing
because Yeah. Anybody can forget once. >> Yeah. >> But if you forget every single year, come on. >> Yeah. >> Okay. All right. So, we will do then something scalable and that first one will not be $50. >> I do have one comment of that just
because I'm the one who has to track everybody, >> right? keeping track of who did it this year and who did it that year and this that >> um and while it's that's fine I also work for four departments total um so that's really
>> it's not hard but it's hard >> you keep a spreadsheet >> I do I keep it a spreadsheet I have spreadsheets going back 15 years >> so you need to scale up your software >> yeah that would be lovely we're working
on that in some ways but um just >> it results in an extra moving part. >> Yeah, it will. It will. You're right. >> But give you more incentive to update software so that stuff can be tracked.
>> I I wish I had that power, but I I do not have any of that type system that actually tracks those things and sends notices. >> That' be nice. >> Yes, that's the thing. I'm the one who sends out all >> by hand. Yeah, I'm an engineer. Sorry.
>> I see. I understand. >> Me, too. I get you. So, >> I totally get my job is the building department, so I'm tracking down, >> which is huge. >> Yeah. >> And then I I also do the planning board, which is all of their things.
>> You need more. >> That would be so that was the only thing with the scalable is that ends up a lot on >> I agree. I would take another salmon in a minute. You can clone yourself. We have a We got a deal. >> Just hire a coder to write you some
scripts that Excel and you won't have to worry about it. >> I'm actually fairly decent at that. But >> go stop complaining. >> So, how would people feel if we did because I think we have to vote on this tonight, right? So,
>> if we did How about if we held off the 50 until you're officially a scoff? >> A scoff? >> Yeah. So, I don't know. I'm I'm opening the negotiation on the So, it'll get up to 50 if you're a scoff law. So, maybe your
second consecutive time being late. >> That would seem reasonable. Notification on your first time and it be 50 second time. >> Seems fair. >> I think you need to go beyond a notific, you know, we've got to kind of get a grip on things that have to happen once a year.
>> Split the difference 25. That's kind of what I was thinking is yeah 25 still less than the fee for the permit and >> yeah and that and that's that's kind of a reverse if permit's 35 and your first fee is 25 you're not going to do it again pay more the second time for the
fee than you are for your permit screws that doesn't make any sense >> so I think that's probably that's probably a good idea >> yeah yeah that does make sense and that that kind of meshes with you know even the way that the um fines are laid out
for, you know, violating the terms of the permit. There's a, you know, first, second. So, okay. >> Yeah, that seems Does it seem reasonable to you, Trish? >> Yes. >> 25. >> You get your first slate for 25 bucks, but then it's going to cost you. All
right. And access to property. Um, I think what we need to do there is to put something in here about um kind of tying it to what we were talking about where we'll give you notice that we need to come on and then
there need like needs to be some period of time that it gets resolved. Um, >> yeah, the initial permit I mean you could ask for method of contact. >> Yeah, I I do like that. Yeah. >> As you There are other mediums available
if you want if you do need to contact. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Certified letters with this meeting. >> I know. I know it. >> You could do the same thing that it would be more economical than doing that. >> No, no, you're you're right. And that's, you know,
>> just >> that is pretty fair. I think what we could do is maybe let the circumstances float a little bit. So if if you're overrun with rats and there are bears and lions and tigers on your property,
we may have to say you have to contact us within 48, 24, 72 hours. >> Yeah. If it's just, hey, we've got a feeling that something's different or whatever. or we had a complaint or think
there might be rats, you know, then that could maybe have a longer timing. And that would be worked out then in the communication between the permit holder and it's a sort of a combination of Bridget and Julie because they both do the the inspections.
>> Okay. All right. >> That works for me. >> Work for you? >> Yes. >> Awesome. >> Changes will be so made. So, how Sam the heck do we vote on this thing that we're
going to vote on with the changes discussed? >> Thank you very much. Thank you for coming. And once again, I am so sorry I was late. That was so rude. >> Thank you. >> Thanks for the input. >> Yeah.
>> Finalized copies will be sent out with your permit renewal. >> Thank you very much. >> Yeah. Thank you. Um, so what you will do is make a motion to approve the updates and changes to the
regulations as presented and discussed. >> Okay. >> Vote on that and then afterwards make a motion to close the public hearing. >> So I make a motion to approve >> I'm writing it down for you. Okay,
>> Greg as presented >> and discussed. >> She's giving me a Q card. I think >> I am. >> Thank you. >> And then after that, >> yes, >> I need to then do the closed public. >> So, you'll second if you'll vote on it.
>> Yeah. Okay. >> Okay. Gotcha. >> Okay. So I make a motion to approve the draft regulation as presented and discussed. >> Okay. >> All those in favor? No, that's you.
>> Okay. Motion >> has been made. I second. Made and seconded. All in favor? >> I >> I Do we have to do this by roll call? >> Okay. >> Okay. >> All right. Good. that um I
move to close the public hearing on the keeping of animals and fowls regulation. Our vote having been taken. >> I second it. >> Yes. All right. Bait and seconded. All
in favor? >> I. >> So done. >> Okay. >> I will do another draft. and get that over. >> There's not a lot though, right? It's just more like inserting language into what's on here. So, >> and then I'll give I'll do like a you
know like list of Can you email me the Is the current application on the website? >> It is, but I can send you a copy. >> Yeah, if you can just email it >> and I can update that that >> Yeah, I just want to take a look at it and see because then I can like do a checklist of Yeah, let's say this. >> Do you want a hard copy? Because I have
>> No, it doesn't matter. Hard copy is okay. Yeah, because I'll let you edit it. It's like you can do how you want it laid out or whatever. >> All right. There you go. >> Perfect. >> And then this was something I That was another version of the back.
>> Oh, okay. All right. >> There you go. >> Is one of these any more or less updated? Maybe this one is more. >> That one we don't that second page we don't use. That was >> Oh, okay. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Got it.
So, this is like Yeah. building. So we would do this if Yeah. So when do we then have to get um like water to sign off? I
>> I would treat it the same way I do a building permit. I email them once a day going, "Hey." >> Okay. All right. Got >> that's how that >> I don't mind doing that. That's >> Does what why Department and Tax Collector sign off on the animal permits or
>> No. Well, we could >> Oh, no. It's just how because they're on here. I was just asking. It's just because this is like a generic list of sign up. Okay, I get you. >> I stole that off the building permits. >> Yeah. Okay. I got you. That makes sense. Yeah. B inspector. Yeah. Makes that all
makes sense. And conservation we did, you know, say that we want to at least notify. >> Yeah. If they're in wetland, if they're in >> Yeah. Then it then >> if they're, you know, in the middle of a whatever, then >> Yeah. >> Right. Conservation only like for the
ones where it where it matters. Okay. >> All right. That makes sense. Thank you. So, that was that. Um, we didn't have any other public input, I guess. So, what are we hearing? Is Bridget had to go?
>> She had another appointment. >> Yeah. Is there any um info in the packet from her? Is there anything for >> that we have to So, nothing we have to >> deal with or anything. Okay, that sounds fine. And I haven't heard from her that
there's anything >> emergent. So, um, for old business, just wanted to do a little update here for opioid abatement funds. So, >> Trish, tell us what
>> Let's see. Can I take that out? >> Found out lately. >> So, >> I've been the rep going forward with um the opioid abatement, you know, keeping Yeah. >> going to the meeting so that people, you
know, So, taking notes and updating. Now, do you think I can find that? >> And we have our signed all of that. So, we're good to go.
What's going to happen is they um they're going to go to a different um a body now where it's you know we're going to be meeting like twice a year and
there will be um well in the IMA that I brought you think I can >> this is the steering advisory committee that's going to meet a couple times and it it breaks it down to um
yes right here. So that that was the question that I had um when we went to the select board and they they signed off on it and we're going to be uh investing. Yeah.
>> If people want to see the breakdown of the money which will change >> Yeah. >> every year. Um so they're looking they're going to be have an advisory board that will um meet semiannually by the host agent and
that's um Francis Dagel is the in Littleton he's the health agent. So my question was I um do we as a board >> take this on as you know getting um I'm
not saying permission but um because some towns had gone in front of their select board and they had working groups and we're doing it differently. Every town is kind of doing it differently. >> So I didn't know if you got a chance to look at >> the um I know. Just
opened it up. I'm looking at my clock going, "Oh my god, I have less than an hour. I I got to I got to find this. I got to look at this." >> Um, >> so I still need to look at that. I would say that
if we have um >> if we have people in mind that certainly have expressed an interest like >> that's I'm sorry you told me that it's coming back to me the survey >> was there any
>> wasn't there at the like one of the last question like a free form >> okay >> I could not pull that up today I could not find it and I wanted to ask you if I can get >> Okay. >> Okay. >> So, there was some interest by people. >> Yes. >> You can't access it because they shut it
off. So, we didn't keep getting >> Oh, okay. Gotcha. That's what we were thinking because um >> the the other towns um the people that were originally on the on this opioid board together. Um it's
usually that person and someone else in like an alternate. >> Yeah, >> there's not a whole heck of a lot to do. >> Is that the actualou? Is that the section where it talks about having to do this? >> Okay. >> And the advisory board is the part right
there. So, I guess um after talking to a rep from Harvard and a rep from Littleton, >> there is um they're they're staying they're going to be part of this advisory board, the original members, and then they have a secondary member.
So, that's why I wanted to look at whoever had interest from the survey. Um maybe they would like to come on board with that. And it's not a whole lot of commitment. Yeah. >> It's just that you need somebody >> or you need at least two people.
>> Yeah. Yeah. >> And if and if and if they don't, then I I I can think of some other folks from the past that have expressed interest. They were very happy to hear that we were the state was getting this money. >> Yeah. And I think a lot of people want
to have, you know, some kind of >> um input as to how it's spent and that's going to all be discussed in public. >> So it really is going to it sounds like with the meeting just a couple of times a year, it's going to really be like a a steering. So, um
>> I I looked at the sign off sheet the other day and they uh there were three towns that already had their alternate >> and their rep. >> Okay. >> And they've signed on and and it's it's not like hurry up and get it done. >> Um there were there were a couple other
towns besides us that hadn't >> signed on yet. >> So, I just wanted to make um >> make you aware. I kind of think what we should do >> and I want input from anybody if
>> you think I'm going off on the wrong track here. >> I'm not exactly sure. So, it's talking about appointed by each municipality's chief executive. And I know that they told you we were kind of overthinking this, but
>> so I would say it's worth um >> let me send an email to Robert and just kind of call his attention to this section. Let him know what what it is we're looking to Yeah, I think that this
and this the the next page on page four talks about additional members and the municipalities can add additional municipalities to this agreement following a duly authorized request upon twothirds votes of the advisory board and amendment of this agreement in
accordance. So there's a lot. >> Yeah. So it can even like decide to admit new talents and stuff. Okay. Okay. Um and and yeah, we should probably check um have Robert just >> let me just check with him on what do we
need to do here because I think my god Sam isn't Robert the chief executive for the municipality or is that the select board? >> That's what I that is a good question. >> Yeah, >> I think that's a Robert question.
>> Yeah. Yeah, I think it is too. That's why I'm like I don't want to run a foul of you like the way this is written >> on the bottom of three. Uh >> yeah, go ahead. I got your whole copy here.
>> Yeah, the composition of the page of the What page is that? >> That's the first one. >> The composition of the advisory board. Um that's yeah the two members and then each participating municipality tied to one vote
>> and like they said it's not a host it's not as formal as it sounds >> um and it addresses the quorum and the meetings have to be posted just like >> so that's why I think it's important that um we run it by Robert
>> because it seems pretty official when you get down there. >> Yeah, I do too. and it's it's something that the town is tied into with thisou. So I don't want to in any way like run a fall with that. >> Let me send him an email >> and I will offer to him that we do have
um probably a few names from the survey that we did. Um, you know, there I'm sure that as a town selectman too have tie-ins to people that they, you know, would like you said some other municipalities there people in fire and
police and you know so we could also make that offer if there's someone from >> and like I said it's not um >> it's not a whole lot of investment of time. >> Yeah. It's like they don't have to be sworn in. They don't have to run for
this office. >> It looks more official on here than it than it really is. >> Yeah. But it is a pretty official position in terms of the operation, I think. >> Well, there's a lot of a lot of money at stake. So, >> okay. Now, I have a clearer idea what it
is that we need. So, I'll take that one on. I'll just I'll I'll ask Robert what um we should do here and then I'll just let him know that we have some we can help with some names. Robert's on the back page on page on page six
>> as far as um >> so Francis is he was the original person that took it on as the host. Littleton was the original host town. So Francis took that on. They're all set. They have their two reps. Harvard has their two
reps and then they have their town administrator. They also have a working group. But then again, like I said, Harvard got, >> you know, so they really have to have that. >> Yeah. >> So, Robert is on our list. Bolton,
Groten, they all have um >> Yeah. Somewhat identified. >> Yeah. >> And everybody's signature. So, >> all right. Yeah. Let me um let me find out what they recommend that we do there and we'll take that from there. So, if
you have another meeting coming up and we don't have any movement yet. >> Yeah. I'm wait. >> You can just let them know. We're We're working on it. >> Yeah. Because I because um I'm going to go look >> um I had to download the the um >> the
signoff sheet the other day. Okay. Like I said, there was still some blank besides here. I wasn't We weren't the only town that went finish. >> I can't imagine. >> A good thing. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> So, all right. >> We'll figure that one out. >> Y
>> um and then the health equity partnership. >> Um there's a couple of >> meetings coming up on that one. Um the one that that you're is that the holistic communities one? What what subgroup is that?
>> This is um Nishoba Health Equity. This is >> Or is it just a general? It doesn't matter which subgroup. Oh, it's the second meeting of the Nishoba Health Equity Partnership. You
have to um register. It's they're talking about the the loss of the hospital and the community leaders went to work. Goes on and on. Several initiatives have already begun and you have an opportunity to drive and help develop new ones as part of this.
>> Gotcha. So, they're looking for So, it's the whole >> Yeah, it's the whole >> It's not the individual groups, it's like the umbrella group. Okay. All right. So, yeah. >> Are you going to go to >> I I looked at this and I said it's 3:30 to 5:30 >> March 19th
>> and it's in towns and so um I have to get Yeah, there's a registration here. >> Okay. Can you do it? Do you want >> Yeah, it's during the day. I know it's easier for me to go than you. You're working. Um >> there's a cap of 50 attendees.
>> Okay. So yeah, I should >> yeah hurry up >> sign up for if anything happens in between now and then let me know and if you know we have to >> and the other ones the um >> the other meetings I was um I went to a couple of the Zoom ones.
>> What was the tape by the way on that one again? >> March 19th. >> March 19th. Okay, got it. >> Yeah, March 19th 3:30 to 5:30 Towns and Meeting Hall. >> Okay. Dudley Road in Townsen. And that
was the Sam, did you get the flyer or not? >> I think so. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Not the um the other one. I was waiting to hear back on the other one for
>> like if the >> I can't remember. There was so many. There was like four. We started off. >> Those are like the next level down, I think. But this sounds like it's for those. This is Yeah. >> Yeah. Like the top level thing. >> I don't know how much I I can get
involved in that. I I liked going to the other one that we talked about the um >> you know trying to get people they had Oh, I know what I thought was really great was the they had turned they had taken um the libraries they had gotten permission they were going to have those
teleaalth stations IN LIBRARIES. >> OH, so they were working on Yeah. They were work I don't know. >> Oh, how cool is that? Well, they because that I think it's still in the works. It was suggested >> um because a lot of seniors, they're the
they're the one population that doesn't get the information that they need. >> Yeah. >> And they said that it would be great if they could, you know, we could find a way at least get them to a public library and then there would be somebody there that at least could get them on
the computer for a tele. >> So, they were working on that. And I thought that was really a great idea that sounds >> and they would have it off to one side. There would be a >> be kind of private >> because I know it like my mom, she wouldn't be able to
do wouldn't be able to I know it sounds simple to us but >> well and it's not always that easy because does the link work or did something go a miss and Yeah. >> So that was um I can't remember which book we were on. Was that the um
>> Oh, wait. >> One with Was it access? Was that the access group or was it the elderly? >> This prior to Oh, this was the prior prioritization session.
This was the one that I went to um originally. And these were all of the suggestions that they talked about collecting data on health in incomes. They had the youth mental health one. >> Yep. Yeah. >> Um and then they they had the healthcare
access. >> Yeah. >> And they there was all these different subgroups that they talked about. >> There was also um a I think the other two is holistic communities. >> Yeah.
>> And um the aging >> right >> one I'm pretty sure. >> Yeah. That one was really good and I was feverishly taking notes and it got ahead of me. But they talked a lot about the
transportation to health care, how the four towns would they had without any registered providers talked about um so a need for help with navigation of the health plan, senior centers, libraries. So the library thing sounds like >> I love that idea.
>> Yeah, I think that's >> Did you get a lot of seniors coming into a library? Yeah. >> Yeah, >> that is a great >> library really facilitates very young children and seniors. It's everyone in between. >> Yeah. >> It's everyone in between that you're
like, "How do we get how do we get a 40-year-old?" >> I know. I know. And yet, like when we were kids, it's like adults, everybody went to the library. >> Everybody went and they do. You'll get them. You'll get them >> when they bring their children in.
>> Yeah. >> So, as the children get older, you'll lose the adults for a little bit, but they usually come back. I think it's >> you have to work too much. >> There's just so many subscriptions and things that you can get for things that you can like download on a Kindle or
even an iPad. They're not that expensive for a >> but through the library you can borrow all your audio books and ebooks. >> Yeah. Yeah. I think it's people even knowing that that >> that's what they that was a big one they talked about because
>> the um >> like I do it all the time. >> Yeah. the senior well the senior population is the one that doesn't have >> access and and it would be nice if they did but this was the original one that was at the >> got it
>> library and then Whoops. Then it broke it down. >> Oh broke it down into center will be good too because they can actually have like little private rooms. You can have some Y. >> Yeah, that would be this. >> It talks all the different Oh, that's
what it is. transportation, housing, all of the stuff that um a lot of people don't have access to. You know, I think if you don't have
young kids, you kind of don't know enough about the resources at the library because like even the passes, my sister and my niece sort of turned me on to that because >> my sister being a teacher for they always use the, you know, passes and
>> we've used those a few times and I never think of it. I used to use them when my kids were using my husband and I used one this weekend. >> Awesome. Yeah, I think that's fantastic. >> We just went over the summer with um we took my nephew and we used >> Oh, it was just him and I didn't bring
the kids. >> That's nice. >> He's like 14. He's >> He's vering on not kid. >> Oh, yes. Yeah. So, yeah, >> guys. So, um, yeah, I'm just waiting to I I should go back on my emails and look >> which
>> I know we talked about it, Pam, because there were four different ones and you were going to do two and I was going to do two. >> I know. I need to go back and look and so let's just um >> I'll go back. >> I'll Yeah, I'll send you like an email list or something. >> But there was a lot um I wanted to stay
in touch with that one that had to do with the senior population and and getting that and then the youth mental health that would I think that had a lot of uh input from the school nurses and things like that. >> Yeah. And I kind of had explained our
interest in it as board of health that you know we're we're not really in a position to be driving anything or >> you know I mean we're a small volunteer board >> but >> I want to stay in touch with what they're doing so that we have communication flow if there's any way
that we can be of assistance if there's anything that they would like >> well just getting any information from them to bring back to help disseminate the information. So, it's kind of like a how could we help each other, >> you know, with each other?
>> They were talking about how how um how to get information out to seniors about like even that tell those teleaalth stations that they they're proposing. >> Yeah. >> And I remember when the hospital closed
and um I don't know if this is something that can be done or not because You're talking about private um >> yeah, >> you know, private businesses, but I remember when Steve said, "How do you how do you let the seniors know so many of them have doctors up there and they
only go once a year and then they go up there and where's my doctor?" And they had he had gotten permission to put like a little flyer in at Air Family Pharmacy. >> Yeah. or different places like that that hey >> could probably do the same thing and
reach those people that are unreachable by doing the same thing. >> I know I do like that idea. The other thing too that you know any in individual town can do is and maybe it's too early to do it for this one but you know the table at town meeting where
there's always like information that you can take information sheet on you know these >> groups and that would maybe be a good thing to um to bring up sort of that higher level meeting is you know for next year's round of town meetings.
Let's think about what >> you know as a group so every town doesn't have to think of what to do. Is there something we >> It's good to to listen to what the other ones are doing the uh >> you know >> it's actually pretty inspiring when you
start hearing what other people are up to. There is a lot of stuff going on. We need a lot of stuff, but there's a lot of good people out there giving time and >> energy and >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, we will see how it all comes.
>> Okay. Well, if let's um assume you're going to go to the one on the 19th. As I said, if something happens and you know, if you have an emergency or whatever, >> it might even be way um over what um what they're talking about. It might be
a little higher up than what I'm used to hearing from the individual. >> Yeah. >> So meetings, you know. >> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. >> Yep. >> All right. Perfect. You are continuing as our emissary. I like that. >> Let's see. Yeah. I just wanted to make
sure I um Yeah, that's what it is. the mobile integrated health pilot. Um, hospital at home was another opportunity pending legislation. >> Huh. Um, I don't know how they how they
were going to fund it, but they were talking about it. >> Is that kind of like the idea of um step down in the home and sending nursing into >> Yeah. Because Well, here it is. Social isolation, aging population. >> Yeah. subset. Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Home care adult in home care that a lot of people are just finding out about that caregiver. >> If you're living with somebody >> and you're taking care of them >> that you're eligible for, you know, you can't work if you're taking care of them
full-time. Yep. >> But you can put in for that through the state. >> Yeah. >> Um >> so yeah, that was it. We talked about how to re the unreachables they called them. >> Yeah. Yeah, >> get a list. You know, they were saying get a list that shows all the seniors
addresses to each of them, but I mean, how do you know how do you know who's of a certain age? >> I know that's hard. >> That's hard, but that's what they were doing in um I think Harvard. >> Yeah. So, healthcare access working groups, they said micro coalition of the
nine towns. >> Yeah. And Harvard has an inhome program. >> Nice. Yep. So, >> yep. >> All right. >> I'm not good at see how I take notes. I got like three different things here. I
knew I had them. >> At least you know. Yeah. >> See, Harvard's tellaalth is up and running. >> Wow. >> Yep. the libraries, the >> COAs, >> and they had a senior center that >> they when I was on this call, it was
like the director of the senior center was on >> the uh EM one of the EMTs was on because they were talking from >> Yeah. there was like three or four different representatives there and they were talking about that how they can have this inh home you know they go
>> but then again he he reminded >> um me that >> they don't have the same case load as we do because our ambulances are going right >> they don't have that um problem
>> yeah yeah this is true >> so they have they can concentrate more on these Yeah, and that's very true. >> But it's good to hear anyways. Okay. >> Yeah. Yeah, it definitely is. >> Thank you. I do appreciate you keeping tabs on that.
>> Um, so call log. >> Yeah, >> looks very quiet. We got a >> water damage from ice dam that looks like it was from a while ago. >> Yeah. >> Um,
complaint. Yeah. complaint that map service to Emerson has been cancelled. >> What What is that? Anyways, um >> so there was for a period of time you could get one of the Mart bands, whatever at the library and it would take you to Emerson.
>> I remember that. It turns out that was a grant. >> Oh, >> I double checked with Carly what was going on just to make sure >> because she's part of the M thing. Anyway, um so I called Carly of like, "Hey, I had this complaint." I happen to
know who the gentleman is. >> It was just one of those of, "Hey, what's going on? What can I tell them?" She goes, "Unfortunately, the money's just gone." >> Oh, I should let them know at the show because I see it on their bulletin board. >> Yeah, you should. Is there any like more
grant money available? Is anybody going after it? >> Oh, wow. I think it's it was and then it was used so much like it it was supposed to last so long and it was used so much it got sucked up so >> really like it was a thing. >> So they're looking into other stuff but
it's it's sort of a >> I got >> I'm sorry but we >> Yeah. >> And we don't have any say over that. So >> that was that came in right after the hospital. >> Yes. It was sort of in response to the hospital it was >> but it was federal money. It wasn't
state money. It might have been state. It could have been federal state. I don't >> whatever it is, it's gone. >> It It's And I think it got used up. >> Yeah. >> And it was like a whole thing. >> Okay. >> She explained it to me and I went, "Oh, this is not like I
>> Yeah. Yeah. Got it. That's a valid complaint because I'm sure that was a >> a lifeline. That could be something too that you, you know, bring back to the group. Trish is like I don't know about what the other participating
towns do or how they get their funding to do that, but could be worth like a discussion especially in the elder >> and he very much called. He no, he knew there was nothing. >> Yeah. >> He just wanted the complaint. >> Yeah. No, good for him. That I think
that's great. >> That's a pretty valid complaint. the um what can I just ask this requesting rental assistant at NOVA ins that's nothing to do with us which the housing office >> yeah I was going to say that >> it's like housing assistance
>> yeah it's housing assistance >> there's a whole program with it you know you have to be a resident of air and have been displaced or you're staying at the motel and they can offer you some rentals it's a whole thing it's nothing >> she just called me like
Okay, I got you. >> Um, and then the heat with the landlord, that one's kind of recent. Um, >> that one's uh recent and it's actually the same uh gentleman who had the complaint about the landlord not clearing the driveway. >> Oh.
>> Uh, >> you know, I kind of thought that somewhere in my mind I thought there was a connection between those two. >> Same. So, Bridget is aware of what's going on. She's been in contact with him. What happens in a lot of these cases is
I get the calls. I let you and Bridget know and >> Bridget will reach out or sometimes they'll reach out to Bridget depending on how it goes and Bridget goes I need to do an inspection and to do an inspection I need to tell your landlord and then they all go never moved.
>> Yep. I know. I know. >> She can't do it in secret. >> I know. I know. >> And it becomes hard. Um or a lot of them just never call back. Um >> it it's hard all around because I get the fear of retribution.
>> I get the fear of retribution. >> The landlord. I really do. >> Which they're not allowed to do that. Um >> I know. Um they'll still do it anyway, >> right? And you got to >> you got to be careful. >> You got to put the money into proving that they did it. >> Yeah. So you have to be careful. So that
that is what happens. This gentleman's called a couple of times. Okay. >> Um they've all been noted. Bridget's done what she >> and she's she's on it. >> And I'm assuming at some point he will make it official, however you want to call that.
>> Okay. All right. >> I'll just check in with her the next time that >> Yeah. I talk to her. All right. So, that looks pretty reasonable. We got a couple of minutes. >> Yeah.
>> Moving right along here. So, the one from January 12th, that was just you and me, >> Trish. So, we can sign these. And I looked at the email
when this came out. This looked >> reasonable to me. >> And we could actually we could approve the other one too, right? If >> because we have a January. >> So if you make motions
>> when you feel >> when you feel like doing >> computer I'll make a motion to accept the minutes from Monday January 12th 2026. >> All right. I second that. All in favor? >> I >> I
All right. I am signing. There's that one. We can do the other one. >> Yeah, we can. There's We have a forum here. Um and just as long as we're looking at those. I am still looking into the um the noise thing. I was
looking at some of the references um that Amy Koy had given us and um >> I'm gonna talk to >> a couple of other people on that too. So >> that is not a dead issue. I'm just researching it.
>> Yeah, these looked okay to me. Yep. Yeah. Okay. Okay. >> Uh, make a motion to accept the minutes from uh, Monday, February 9th, 2026. >> I second. All in favor? >> I >> I
There's that one. Coming back to you. Do we have any bills or mail? >> Uh, yeah. Requiring attention. >> We do. Well, okay. So there was an invoice because of the way pay payables
ended up I did just go ahead and pay it. It was Bridget's renewal for the MHA 60 bucks. So you approve it every year. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> The board of health spent $60 for Bridget. >> Is that the um it's that MAHB membership or
>> MHA? It's the That's a photo copy. So, I'm missing Massachusetts Health Officers Association. >> Oh, okay. I know what that one is. There is another group that um we used to
belong to and I think in the last couple of years we haven't, but it can be pretty good for regulations and stuff. And it's the Mass Association of Health Boards, MAHB. >> Okay. >> Get a moment. Can you just check into that one? and film. I think that was only like $60, too.
>> And they do a training twice a year. When I first got on the board, I did um their training and it's like you have to give up a Saturday, but you know, it's like a 9 to3 kind of thing um for new health board members and then they did like special topics and that was really
a good meeting. But the other thing is they have a good website and you can access um like they'll do a lot of model U. >> Oh, good. Yeah, like regulations and they'll post regs from other towns. They also do a lot of posting of like things that were challenged in court.
>> Okay. >> That you know, hey, boards of health be aware. There's this or that court decision. So, yeah. See if they're still >> Yeah. to see if they're around. >> Yeah. And like what is their renewal year? Do they have a fiscal year or a, you know, calendar year or whatever?
Just >> fine. Yeah. >> All right. And then the other piece of mail, I received it today. This is the nomination for Inspector Animals. >> Oh, yes. >> Absolutely. >> I did call Julie to see if she was still interested because don't want to sign
her up without that, but she didn't call me back. So, >> all right. Yeah, just see if you can get >> So, yeah, >> if she gets it, then we'll >> Yeah, absolutely. I certainly certainly hope she does. She's >> Yeah. >> knowledgeable.
>> All right. About it. Um I think for upcoming meetings and dates I would keep um like as part of our standard certainly we keep Michelle on every time but um for the old business I would keep those
two on because things are you know still happening kind of every month or so >> and I might have um some information on boys. I'm not really sure if that I'll
kind of get a >> We got a month. >> Yeah. My information wrapped up. So, I'll have to talk to you before the >> thing. Do you have anything that like we know already? Is that Hey, we better >> No, I just I'm just >> think about this. Okay. Yeah, that's good.
>> Was reading whatever was given to us. >> Yeah. >> That meeting. But >> no, that's fair. Um, tobacco Joe Hamlet is Oh, yeah. >> That wasn't that like a We were going to look at that again. or something, but you haven't heard any. >> I haven't heard from >> Okay. All right.
>> Don't poke the sleeping bear unless >> I got to email her the list of tobacco apartments. I'm pretty sure I did. I can't remember if I did that. >> Next time you're talking to her. >> Yeah, >> just, you know, tell her we're always >> the call every summer.
>> Yeah. Yeah, exactly. We'll we're always happy to host her to talk about >> updates. >> Yeah. I know there's been some new concerns with some uh new products on the market. >> Oh, yeah. I It's like a whack-a-mole to keep up with >> Yeah.
>> what's coming out. So, >> yeah. So, I wonder if they have any new rags or new things on that >> only because I've been hearing it from the kids. So, I'm wondering >> hasn't made it to the >> Yeah. >> tobacco people yet. >> And they still think if they bake it
cigarettes. >> Oh, yeah. It's so much better. >> Tastes better, too. I'm like, >> the new fun thing is um flavored nicotine chewing tobacco. >> Oh, isn't that wonderful? >> It's not really tobacco, but it's got
nicotine. It's a whole >> Because so many 40 and 50 year olds go out and buy bubble gum. >> Yeah. >> Chewing tobacco. >> Then there's um then there's Zen. >> It's not Kag. >> My son was You can order it on Amazon. >> Yep. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's right.
>> And it's like a It's not quite like the chewing tobac. It's like a little paper. Yep. You can put it right there. >> Wow. >> They make it so easy. >> Big thing. >> Yeah. And he wasn't a smoker. I mean, he did, but he was overseas. >> Yeah. Yeah.
>> But came back and didn't didn't. >> Yeah. >> I just I was thinking about this. I think over the weekend I saw something some little blurb about um Tucker Collison has some um kind of it's like a
nicotine product. It's supposed to be real high test and like a truckload of it. The first truckload that was going to ship to customers got stolen. >> I don't know. I don't know. And I'm like, "Oh, wow. We're still coming out
with new, you know, new ways to get Yeah. people Tobacco is never going to give up its >> objective. >> It is. It is. Anyway, all right. That's all um I think we have to do tonight. So, >> was enough. >> If you want to make any motions, we'll entertain it.
>> I will make a motion to close the board of health meeting for March 9th, 2026. >> I second that. All in favor? >> I. We are a jerk.