will call the um what's it say? September 12th meeting of the board of health to order. It is the 12th, right? It is. So, um the agenda has the possibility of
going into an executive session. Um there's no new information to discuss. So, if everyone's in agreement, we'll just skip the executive session and go to the agenda. You guys are here. Yes. Yep. You don't need to vote for anything. No. So, the first item on the
agenda would be public input and we have no public. So, we have no public input. Um, next item on the agenda, old business, the Westford Road noise complaint.
Um there was correspondence that we received from the police chief and the police officers I think on at least five occasions went by there and noticed no trucks
idling um no change in terms of what the usual noise is. Yeah. I spoke to the plant manager. His name is Nick Green. super nice guy and I said it's just as a courtesy call which we had talked about
the last meeting and um he said they will post signs but trucks do not idle in the parking lot. Trucks come and trucks go picking things up and he said the refrigeration units have to be running because what they drop off and
pick up is refrigerated. And I totally understand that. Um, but other than that, there's been nothing that Bridget has seen that the police department or that I've noticed
or any other complaints. So, I guess my thought is at this point in time, there's no further action that this board needs to take. the resonance letter is interesting because
there's such a like a disconnect between what everybody's seeing and and what she said. Is there anything else out there that could make a noise like that that is this possible the noise is coming from somewhere else? I don't think so. Chillers are on the roof of the
building. The chillers run because the temperature. So you might pick up any noise from the chillers. But um in terms of truck idling in the parking lot, that is not happening. And yeah, I got you. Yeah. And he's going to post it. Um but
he said it's not happening. I can understand that. If I was paying $6 a gallon for diesel fuel, I wouldn't let my trucks idle either, you know. Well, do you know what the She talks about generated trailers packed at the dock. So, does
does that mean do they have any trailers that just have like a cooler generator that they're using for storage outside the facility? Did you notice that? And I believe that the refrigeration units are exempt
as well in terms of running because they have to run. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, the I think the refrigeration units do have to run on the trucks. I was just wondering if there was a distinction there. Okay. And was there also Are you looking at the original? Was there also mention of
the time of day? Was it early? Yeah, like 3 between 3:00 and 5:00 a.m., but it said that it sometimes will run until 9:00 p.m. constantly. So, that's that's what I'm saying. It's like such a mismatch. So, and no other um residents
complained? No. No. that. Okay. I also went into the parking lot of that where the resident was complaining and could not and there wasn't anything like that.
So, I think we did our due diligence. We looked into it and there's nothing new to report. Yeah, I think we've done what we can at this point. Yeah. I mean, if it continues, I would en encourage the resident or any other residents to
contact us again. Yeah. Bridget, you want to talk about co? No, that's an easy one, isn't it? Yeah. I mean, I honestly I have not really heard too much. Um I think I the the last numbers um I didn't
even I don't even know if I opened that email to be honest. The last numbers the town had gone down below the state and the county level. Yeah, I mean I um yeah, the bacteria kind of took over for
Yeah. So other than um I mean I haven't really had any complaints. We do offer the CO tests in our office as well if people want to pick them up. So we have had some people come in and pick them up. So I saw an email that there were
more tests available. I don't think we need any more tests. I see that. Yeah. Do you I mean um how are we doing with supplies? Cuz you have some, right? I do. My box is almost empty. So I think we have four more cases. How many are in? There's 90
in each case. I'd say I have like 15 left. So you were on that that's still the case that you were on in the last meeting, right? Cuz you had five. I had just one. There was 90 in it. I have Oh,
I thought you had five. who has five. So, we have extras. Oh, they're here. They're in the somewhere. Yeah, they're Yeah, I think they're still in the um great hall. I was going to say they're people keep coming, but it's definitely
slowed down. So, we have I think there's maybe four or five there. Then the fire, police, Yeah. senior center. Um, we have I think we need more three cases in our office and we leave them out. Okay. So, I Yeah. And I'll say after the first
week, it's been more staff taking the tests than anyone else. So, yeah. Okay. Yep. There a lot on election day. That's all we had under old business. Under new business,
um, let's take up the easy thing first, which is pace. Yeah, they so you guys know more about this than I do. They came in routinely prior to co is that we had a couple of um meetings where
they've joined us to you know kind of yeah give us more of the details on the PAS so study. Do you want to sk ask them if they're available to come into our first meeting in October or a second? Actually, I I think that
that probably would be good timing now that they have sight and they're you know, they're a little bit farther along in it. I think it would be good to get a status update and update. Sam, can you get in touch with it's Lori, right? Lori near it. Yeah. And see if she's
available and wants to come in to the board meeting on the first one in October. So, whatever the date is. Doesn't the first one interfere with a holiday? Oh. Is it Columbus Day thing? I think it's the Columbus Day thing.
We we said okay 12th and the 26th, but we hadn't gotten to October um October. Yeah, we could do one schedule in October and make it that
kind of middle week. Okay. Um, and then if we need to do another one, then we would have the following week. Cuz after that, isn't the next Monday like Halloween? Mhm. Already? I don't have calendar. So, right. So,
October, um, like Sam said, the 9th, I mean the 10th is, uh, the holiday. Yeah. You want to meet the 17th? 17th or the 24th? Yes, we've already scheduled for the 24th.
So, if we meet the 17th, we can see if we need to meet on the 24th. That's Yeah, that's what I was thinking is we could just do um yeah, do the meeting on the 17th and then kind of play it by ear. Okay. So, let's leave it posted as it is. We'll um
reschedule the meeting of the 10th to the 17th. Yeah. Okay, that sounds good. And if you can ask Laura if she is available for what's coming up. Yep. Absolutely. Okay. You get the dates through the end of the year, right? We
did. And how did we do I know we always do something oddball in November and December or did we just do normal? I thought because November and December with holidays it was like we usually end up having one meeting at least one.
Yeah, in your we don't usually need to unless we're like deep into something, right? We may be by then. I know. That has happened before at that time of year. I I said just leave it alone for now and then we can adjust it as needed.
Yeah. Okay, that sounds good. Okay. So, there is a PACE meeting tomorrow morning at 10 and there's a Zoom link that was sent out for that. Yeah. It's always at 10 a.m. on a Tuesday when I have a standing client call. So that there's
not Yeah. There's much I can do unfortunately because I know she'll be repeating here a a lot of the things from that. But such as life. Yeah. Yeah. That's all we can do. Okay. So the other item under new
business is the toxic algae bloom on sandy pot. M so um I had mentioned before you got here Bridget and I talked to you about this I knew of two dogs that um died in Maine
as a result of a toxic algae bloom and looking at Sandy Pond. I called Bridget, I want to say last Tuesday, was last Tuesday. And I said, "Bridget, I think we need to take a look at Sandy Pond." And you went down and you walked on the
dock, I think. And then was it Wednesday you went down and took samples, right? Um, yes. And pictures. Yeah, we sent those to the state, the pictures. By Thursday morning, the state had
confirmed it was a toxic algae bloom. Yes. Right. And the posting, Bridget, you did the majority of that and Heather, I believe, in terms of So, it's toxic for humans. It can be lethal for
animals. The fishing part of it still escapes me. I don't understand that. There's nothing that says you can't fish, but I wouldn't want you. You're not supposed to come in contact with the water is my understanding. And if you do, to rinse off, right? And that's what, you know,
we said it's like for recreational stuff. So, I kind of just lump everything in that. Um I saw a guy fishing and told him I'm like, I don't Yeah. He's like I think he was just trying to escape. He's like, I throw the fish back in. I'm like, yeah. So, he
knew he saw the signs. He was actually fishing in Flanigan Pond though. So on the other side, my understanding is it's a natural occurrence. It's not due to contamination or anything else. Um and living on the pond for the last 50
years, the pond level is probably down four or five feet right now. So the pond isn't draining into Flanigan's pond. So the water becomes stagnant. And I believe that the heat from the summer and the stagnation is probably
the principal cause of what's going on. Yep. But in terms of timing, we're testing the water what weekly, Bridget, or So I just we have a machine.
And it's um I forget the name of it, but um that just does I I don't even know. Um I wish I could remember the name of the machine, but so we'll take the water sample and we put it in that and it gives us a cell count. Um and it was
like over 70,000 today. I think I just took one before I got here. So that in itself would be enough to make a call. But that Yeah, but the the the visual also is enough to make the call. And
yeah, I don't anticipate it going away anytime soon. I think the water's going to have to get colder. Yeah, that's just Yeah. So, we'll just keep monitoring it, looking at it, and um at some point, maybe next week, grab another sample. I
go every day and visually look at it from the beach part um just to see if there's any difference. Well, luckily it's the end of the season. If it was July, I mean mid August or July trying to keep people out. Oh, I know. Yeah. So much harder. Yeah. But I think Bridget
did a fantastic job with the posting. It's posted all over. Definitely. And then Bridget and I talked about the sign boards and I believe the sign board the police station Yes. had an announcement. Um the chief was very cooperative in terms very good about the Yeah. I mean
it was and it was I mean kudos to everyone because within minutes they responded and I believe there's one down at the um DPW put a sign board up at the town beach. Yeah. And um Robert did a reverse
911 call on Thursday or Friday. So I think we covered all of our bases. Y um anyone that had dogs down at Sandy Pond that I knew, I called them and just told them to be careful. I was surprised
though Friday I went um cuz I was talking to Steve about it and I went for a ride and the there were there was nobody at the beach, but the gate was wide open. Yep. Which I was kind of wondering they they were going to lock that up. So, I did talk to Jeff and um
about that and they do have other activities there where kids play different sports and stuff. Yeah. So, but they have um I think the signage was pretty good. I mean, there's a big sign down there that says no swimming. Um
they have that um fencing up right before the beach. Made me getting my sample pretty difficult today. You can come over to my house and do anything. Um so but yeah no I mean everyone has
been fantastic and I think as soon as we knew um what we were we're dealing with it was posted very quickly. So what did you say your values were for the cell 70 is like I think 70,000
but the one from last week was was really crazy. Yeah. I think Ira couldn't even chart it out. It like went off the chart. so much. Yeah. So, I think that from the board of health perspective, we covered all of
our bases in terms of doing what we need to do and I thought you did a great job. So, thank you. Thank you to the Shoba and the police chief and the fire chief and DPW DPW everyone. I mean, it was just it made our job easy, too. Um, and
I would just keep saying maybe cycle it through on social media just to make sure because I feel like that's probably where a lot of people go. That's true. Yeah. Just to keep reminding them because it's not even though the signs are still down there, I don't anticipate
it. Yeah. We also asked about Flanigan's pond and the feeling was you can't there's no detectable color change in the pond and they didn't feel as though um Flanigan's was under
the same health advisory as Sandy plant. Yeah. Um today Monday I'm going to try and go over to Flanigan Pond. It's I couldn't find an entry point today. Um, and I have to get I'm looks like I'm
probably going to have to at the beach I can sit on the So suggestion for Finnegan's is Central Avenue that drains under Central Avenue at the intersection of Groten Harvard Road and Central Lav and there's a fishing spot right there
where it would drain out. Okay. So if you are going to get a sample that would probably be the best place because you're going to catch whatever is draining out of the pond. Okay. Yeah, it's from the air moving in storage. The air moving in storage and then sight
down. Is that where the pump station is? The what is? No, the pumping station is further up. Quite a ways further down. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Grunt Harbor Road crosses right down here where the flashing light is. Yeah. Gen just past that on the left. Okay.
Central moving. Okay. I'm just looking at the um health advisory for it. So you have to have two successive samples collected a week apart. Correct. With the cell counts
below. So correct. Yeah. So the state will actually So what we're doing is just this I I don't know if it's different from what the state uses for Yeah. I'm assuming it is because those water samples that this was taken by the state is I think it's they're $300 a
piece and you send them out. So I don't know if they're going to come out and do those because it's past swimming season. So that's usually what they do is they'll do them I think around the the um area of the swimming the bathing
area. So they might not actually take the samples. So, what we can do is watch for the collar to change back to normal and then at least we have that meter that we can use to kind of gauge a
little bit. Yeah, I mean that makes sense. Yeah, cuz if they're $300 a sample, it no sense sending them out when we can still see the mat and we know it's going to fail. So, yeah, that makes sense.
Anything else on Sandy Pon? We good? So, moving on. Um, under new business, which isn't scheduled, but we had a um written complaint today from Pleasant
Street about rodents in the area. Um, the animal control officer has been notified. I believe she has gone up that way. Um, in terms of definitive information, all we have is the letter,
which I haven't had a really good chance to absorb the whole thing yet. But I think that the steps that we should take are to investigate and see if there's anything in the area which would be causing a problem. Yep. Um, there was a
suggestion that there's an abandoned house up there. Mhm. Um, abandoned property. Is that building inspector? Um, it can be. Let's ask the building inspector to take a look at the
abandoned house to see if that's an issue. And then um Julie is going to look into So yeah, Julie's going to look into it as well. And then I was going to kind of follow up with her to find out.
One of the there are two big things that cause rodents. One is chickens, chicken feed. Um the other is um bird feeders. And again, it depends for the birds. Um,
in the past we it's been blatantly obvious if we had I wasn't in air, but um someone was dumping the bag of bird food on the ground and um so um there are other things that you can
kind of look at is construction, anything new going on. Um the rats are nocturnal and they're pretty much everywhere. So what's what is making them come out? Um and that can be there's certain types of brush where they hide under. So you look for
basically um construction natural environment bird feeding and then um chicken hoops. What happens is they borrow underneath the poop sometime. Yeah. How about garbage though? Garbage. And garbage. Yes. Garbage is um big attraction.
Overflowing dumpsters. So yeah. And that's something in a residential neighborhood we'll look um it's not so bad now that we people have individual trash pickup. It just it's easier if they're doing that. They don't have trash accumulating out in their yard.
Yeah. So we just kind of you just basically drive up and down. But I would encourage anyone that lives in that area that is also having a problem. This was what was the address? 83 Pleasant Street in the upper end of
Pleasant Street. that's having a rodent problem to contact the board of health and let us know. Yes. And then I think we should put this down as a specific agenda item to follow up at the next meeting and invite Julie to be here as
well in terms of what she's found. Does that sound reasonable? That does sound. Yeah. Bridget, I mean, we could either invite her or just I think what I was just going to ask her is I'd like to invite cuz I haven't seen her. Once once a year is a good thing.
We have to pay her too. Exactly. That so um if she doesn't show up, she doesn't get paid. Um do we have any outstanding chicken permits? Do you know? Uh not that I know of. I'd have to double check. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So I that was the only
question I was going to ask Julie is that um if do you have a list of I have the list. I just Okay. Just look at who's up there. Um and just see if she's had any problems with anything up there. Um I
don't Sometimes I can see them visually the the hoops from the road, but yeah. Um so other than that, I thought it was a very well-ritten letter. It's It's just asking for our assistance. So did you talk to the lady that wrote this letter or
I'll reach out to her as well just to let her know. We're going to look into it. will be on the agenda for next next meeting. Sounds good. You guys okay with that? Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Her point is a good one that they're wellfed. So, awesome. Yeah, they're there some source of
sustenance around here. Okay. Update. Anything? Um I did a housing inspection today. Yeah, that will be coming down um in the next envelope on Hat Street. Uh nothing
major. I did um call the um representative for the um landlord and they're very responsive. I'm going to send a certified mail out
and then it's Brady Sullivan. Um send uh an email to their attorney's office so that they can start working on it as soon as possible. So, uh, other than that, um, we had a I sent a second notice to William Street regarding
temporary housing. Is that in the envelope? William Street or I'm sorry, Edgeway. Yeah, I'll be okay. Yes. Um, they actually called me today right
before I came in here. Um, and I just explained that that letter is if we get a complaint on something and I don't we have to follow up on it. And I did see a something that looked like a tiny house. And so that warranted this letter going out similar to the one that we sent out
early in the year to the person who had the RV if you remember that. Yep. So I just said we send this out to let you know that you can't do that. But I personally have not physically seen it. Yeah, goes to to report back to the
board. And I said if they have any questions or concerns that they can come to the board and discuss it, but right now it's not in order. It's just please be advised you can't do that. So they seem responsive to that. That was Mr. Williams,
not William Street. Okay. So I think between that so we get the temporary food service permits for the Newton Street. Yes. Suare most of them. Two are missing.
Luchi is in Ruby Donuts but other than that um R.J. from Nishoba Club is responsible for collecting everyone's applications. So everyone else is I haven't the only one I physically saw was pen arts because they dropped it off themselves. So, but the rest of them
seems to be in there. So, good stuff. That sounds okay. Um, we also have the call log, which I thought was very well done, by the way. Thank you. Yeah. So, the top one there is that was the
guy that was talking about um a rehab facility that's not even in Well, some of those are from last time. I just continued the same document. Yeah. As opposed to making a new one. So the dark line will tell you what's new. Is that questions? No.
Yeah. That would be Nent. It's not in our I don't know. Did he say which one it was? He says he's in Medford. Yeah. Okay. It's a little bit of a stretch. He He's called a couple of times. From what I gathered, he used to
live here, but it sounds like 25 years ago. And I think he just I think he's just upset. I don't think there's anything we can do. I think he's just upset. Yeah. I I think he just doesn't have anyone
else to talk to. Okay. Well, thank you for that. Uh, we have the minutes and you said minutes I have to sign, right? Yes, I do. I have them here. So, we have the minutes from the previous meeting which was August 29th.
They look good to me. I mean, I thought they great. Is there a motion? Absolutely. I move that we accept the minutes of the Was it August 29th? 29th. 29th meeting. I second. Motion's made
and seconded. Uh, any discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor? I Okay, perfect. Anything else that we have or uh Yeah, I have an action item from last time. Um, Bridget, did you get any more
info about the tobacco thing? Like, what was the background on that? What? Do we have that document to sign? Yes. Yes, I did. Okay. So I don't that just
um so I don't have any more information on are you talking about the um yeah we had the the so what we talked about the last meeting is that we did have the one violation and I had said that that's
it's just kind of sad because I at the time that we redid the tobacco rigs air had a completely clean graphic for a number of Yes. So, yes. Um, thank you. You just needed to jog that piece of mind. They're they're working on trying to get that history for you. So, I did
email them. Um, and so they are working on that. Um, hopefully I can I can forward you the email. I I don't think it's I mean it's not like it's an emergency thing. it, you know, but I just kind of wanted to do a hey,
let's not let this slide without you. Um, so they are going back and looking to see if they can get that. That sounds good. Just need to sign or Yes. So,
did you get the Did I forward you the email? Which one? Tobacco. Um, we have to sign the document. I don't think so. Okay. So, You have to resign the participating municip municipality agreement. Did you
vote to do that then or some towns are just signing it? Did we do this with Joan after we had made our I so know that we have signed on before I can't remember the vote that
you know that it requires you know about the rest of it has to have something so yeah fine yeah I so what happened is I get something there was something that triggered this being signed by all the towns to let there's three towns that
they that are coming back into the Tobacco Control Alliance. So, because they're coming back in, everybody else has to resign. Okay. Something to that effect. So, that's just what that is is just you've already signed it from what I can gather. Yeah. In order.
Yes. Yeah. So, do you want to make a motion to reaffirm our participating municipality agreement with the municipal tobacco and public health policy programs RFR number 1 190128?
So, move. You just did that. I did. Is there a second? I second it. Any discussion here? No. All those in favor? Hi. Hi. Okay, so it says on the bottom board of health
agent health department director. Is that me or is that That's you. You So do I need to sign this at all under the chair? Mhm. Yep. Okay. You and I sign our life away. I've talked to you more in the last
week, Bridget, than my wife. I know. I'm sorry. But I am really good cuz sometimes I go to call him and I'll be like, "Wait a minute. It's 7:00 at night." He said, "Are you falling asleep?" Yes. The cut off is the latest cut off. How
long it's been? I don't know. I get up really early. So sometimes I forget and I'm like I'll start sending out um emails and I'm like, "Oh, maybe this is a little too early." You've gotten really good with me. you know, to wait until like Oh, yeah.
There's a window almost. Yeah. Anything else come before the board? Not that I'm aware. Nope. Motion to adjourn. Uh, yes, absolutely. Sorry. You sent me mail and stuff.
Oh, sorry. I was going to say I was told to bring this, so I brought it. I'm so I'm so um consumed by this pond right now that literally taken over my life. There was just this is another consent order for Nosoya um for a fine. It's
it's nothing more than that. It's just the paperwork for that. I just wanted the board to know Well, there's been no further complaints on this story. There's been no odor issues that I'm aware of since I think a sporadic one might have come in last week, but I don't I don't think there wasn't much.
They didn't find much, I don't think. What is the fine for? Um, this was for a certain time period. Didn't they use trucker for removing waste that wasn't either licensed? Something happened with
a trucker that they were using to haul solids or semi-olids away. It was a fine for that back in it's um a $25,255 fine.
Significant. Yep. for unlicensed unlicensed there was something I don't remember the act but that's from the state not from so trucks have to be licensed well I think hauling trucks anything
even fill if it's not clean fill if it depending on where it came from they have to have a a certain not a what the word is but yeah what is it authorization.
Yeah. But we spoke to the people at NOA and again they were very cooperative in terms of um at least saying the right things that they would do whatever needed to be done to resolve the odor issue itself. Did you I have a terrible
memory and I would um see it's up to I can even take it scan it send it to them and send you a copy so they have it. That would be great. like the overflow cuz they don't actually know who to send it to. Yep. I'll do it and then I'll um Did this have to be
water? I think it was the solids. Solids. Okay. And then there was an upgrade to but it didn't work or something. They were trying the on-site system. So because the on-site system didn't work, they were hauling the stuff
out to a plant to be processed. I believe that's it. The only reason that I'm wondering if this is a repeat issue is that um this is has been in the past. I'm not saying it is with the current management, but
kind of a repeat issue with Missya where the people that come and talk to us are very receptive and they're very amendable and they get it and they put in great plans. Then you may change management and so then you've got to make new
arrangements and plans and agreements and the new management is always very cooperative. It's never been a lack of cooperation. It's more of a lack of followth through from one management team to the next. And I also remember
reading somewhere, unless it was you, Steve, that we had a phone conversation about the history of these types of plants, not just in air. They're usually situated way out from resident and they you don't get that, right? Waft, you
know, on the air, it's usually so far away and it's contained, right? They've been so close to residential areas that Yeah. This this goes back a year. Here it goes to August 6, 2021. So this is I
believe the original effective immediately mark and label all containers accumulating hazardous waste at the facility with the words hazardous waste. Hazardous waste identified in words and type blah blah blah. But I believe this is this is just a formal
like fine coming through. Well, I think the fine already happened, but it's now we're telling you that either you need to pay the fine or um it's letting us know that the process has to move forward with this. Okay. We don't need to do anything with this.
They'll file it. I will file it. Okay. So, we had a motion and we second it and it's irrefutable. All those in favor to adjurnn? Hi. Hi.