I have it at what like just 7 o'clock looks like. Uh calling the Monday, February 8th, 2021 meeting of the Air Board of Health to order. So public input. I can't see if there's
anyone up on the screen and I do apologize for calling in tonight. I know it's better to deal with a a thing. So I'm going to try to make this just a one time thing that I'm calling in. But do we have anyone for public input? Doesn't look like it.
That sounds like a no. So, doesn't look like it. Okay. So, in that case, then let's move on to the continued public hearing for 96 East Main Street. operate application to operate a motel um submitted by Steve
Wel and this is for Mimi's Place um which was previously Kazmier Hotel. So just to kind of summarize where we are and what new information we have at
our last meeting we had asked um Mr. Wel and you know or his attorney or through his attorney or however he wanted to do it to provide us with a plan of action for um
how he plans to come into compliance for conformity with both the Massachusetts regulation and the air bylaw for definition of a motel. So, we did receive um the information package
that you sent in that uh was submitted by your attorney, Mr. Lily, on February 2nd. So, we are in receipt of that. And it also contains another thing we had asked for was the motel policies and
procedures and we do have that. There is also a COVID 19 plan which I didn't review in detail because I knew Bridget could just look at it and know know what was right and wrong about it. And then there's also information on the
relocation program that you want to get going into compliance. Is that that's everything right? Yeah. That we have I believe. Okay. So,
and Steve and I know Bridget has and and Trish, you've had an opportunity to review the information. Yeah. Um, submitted on February 2nd. Any thoughts, opinions?
Um, I I was curious to I I wanted to learn a little bit more about this relocation program. Um and and it's it has to do with Fidelity Bank
and um I know that um Mr. Wetzel had said that he had reached out to um Alan Monoyan, our director of community and economic development and spoken to him and the Air Housing Authority.
And I just was curious to see is this like a a joint effort to um you you said this was an evolving program that you had looked into. Could you talk a little bit about that and how you think it
would work for the guests at Kazmor? Certainly. So, uh this this is Chris Lily. I I am here with Steve. We're in the same room. That's why we're both masked. Um we're on two different uh two different windows here. Okay. Um so Steve uh had put this this
together this um uh a program that would enable people who are in who are in need to find h to find housing uh giving them the ability and the tools to to uh to find that housing. So we enlisted the
help of of a number of people uh including uh Fidelity Bank which is going to sit down with with people and and give them tools about uh what to look for. Uh we we listed a number of um
seminars that are going to be provided uh for people as as kind of an overall educational tool. In addition to that, we have um realtor Ron Morrison who is um willing to sit down with each and
every one of our guests who have been there for an extended period of time and talk with them about their respective needs and about the programs that are available and and help them through that
process. We also have um uh I believe Steve has been working with people uh to um uh work out applications for various housing authorities. We have one application that's already been done uh
with the town of air. Uh we have another guest who's who's a recent um guest uh has been kind of in and out of of of the place but has uh is is awaiting um housing out of out of Lemonster. Uh
we've got a number of um different options. We're kind of reaching out to a number of people that can that can help out. And as far as what we can what we can have in place at this time, I think what we
were able to get was was um uh quite a bit. Uh but there's also the the uh the situation where Steve himself is providing um $1,000
per guest unit for those who have been there for an extended period to help defay the cost of um moving expenses. Yeah. and everybody that has been there and and you can take a look at the uh at
what we listed on the program that that that sheet is is supposed to go up on the wall and it does couch it in terms of qualified um uh guests uh may be entitled to. Well, everybody in the short term here
that we're talking about as far as trying to move things qualifies. everybody that's been there for, let's say, 60 days or more qualifies, okay, to to receive that. And that's the short term. I didn't put that down in the in
in in in the poster that's going to go up on the wall um for I think obvious reasons as far as what what happens going forward, but I think that this is um this is all part of uh what we're what we're trying to do. So, you have the the the um the
incentive built in. You have the educational component, you have the one-on-one approach with people. Um I know Steve has has spoken uh to the economic development director who is looking to determine the extent to which
he can uh help out. Um and we're we're still trying to flesh out that aspect of things, but it's kind of a a growing program. that I think is is is really what we're hoping Kasm
Manor is able to offer to to this town and and and neighboring towns as far as uh people that are looking for places to go. I mean, we have a loaves and fishes that deals strictly with food. Here we have um a a a situation that deals with
with housing and assistance. Um yeah, as kind of a transitional situation. Uh so I think that this program it's it's it's one of your corporate citizens offering a program that I think is is is going to be helpful to the
public. And you said this is evolving. This is um how new is this through Fidelity? Has this been around for a while or No, it hasn't. This is this is evolving because of what of what we've been doing here with the board of health. Okay.
I think that I think we've identified that there is an issue here um that is is uh exacerbated by the fact that we have we do have people that have been there for a long time, but it's exacerbated by the fact that we have
this COVID situation. We have people that are unable to to go somewhere and if you and if we um make them leave so to speak, they're out on the streets. Well, we don't want to put people out on the streets. We
want to uh create a situation where they are able to move on. I I absolutely agree. I did. So that yeah that is interesting though that so these are are new seminars or
workshops that they're going to be putting together specifically for for this situation. It's not something that Fidelity Bank just does on a routine basis and correct. So Steve has Okay, got it with uh with a member of Fidelity Steve
what's his name? Jamie. J Jamie Bgoy Burggoyne who who has agreed to sign on and is and is willing and and I think is excited to get to to to do this and I think it it allows other
entities um other corporate citizens also to to address to address a need in the community. I I think this is a win-win situation for everybody. Yeah, it I like the fact that you've got a lot of input from from different
sources that can potentially help. So, you're tied into affordable housing. You're, you know, tied into a bank that will help to work with people. You have a is a realtor. So, those are all good things. I think this situation that we
currently have is going to take kind of a community approach to really get it resolved and get you on the path to truly operating a motel. Well, that's that's the idea is to uh is
to address the these issues that uh Steve Steve did uh inherit when he when he when he purchased the hotel uh back in in September. Um but also that was kind of the expectation at that time
that that's where what what people were using the place for. Well, we don't want it to be used for that purpose, but to the extent that people are looking to this um hotel as as a place to go. Well,
we're not just providing a place to go. We're providing a program for people that are coming in that can that can allow them to move on and to help themselves uh along um that path toward uh self-sufficiency. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And the only
comment that I have on on the the list of topics and I know this might be a high to sell for the bank because they don't necessarily get, you know, to initiate a loan because of this, but it seems that it
would be helpful if you added something in about helping people just either budget or figure out how to put together a first and last, even if they just want to move into a and your apartment
because by the only way out I'm pretty sure that I I agree that there should be a component that deals with budgeting. I thought we had we had been talking about that. Um, where that comes from, I don't know. But
I agree that budgeting as as an educational tool is is important. Okay. All right. That's good. And we do we do have the job listing. Well, oh, yeah. I did also notice that that
you So, you're listing jobs right there at the motel, right? Yes. Okay, great. And you're also posting rental listings. Yes, rental listings and job listings, both of which should be updated at least weekly.
Great. Steve. Yeah. Hi. Hi, Trish. Hi. Do we have an opinion from the board of from the letter
from you're glitching Steve? Yeah. Yeah. I don't I don't think I have a good signal. But do we have an opinion on the letter from the board of health? the letter
from attorney from the attorney. Yeah, from town council. I'm going to turn off the video. Maybe it'll better reception. Maybe I can say that I did speak to town
council today. She had asked me to forward um a listing of the people that are currently there and so we did uh provide that as of today uh a listing of people uh who are there. I would ask that that
be protected to some extent. We didn't necessarily want to disseminate names, but I understood the need to have those names established so that as you review things going forward, it makes sense to be able to refer back to well, who was there as of
as of uh February 18th. Right. Right. And length of length of stay. Length of stay is specified in there. Um most of it is is estimated. Um to the extent that it's an extended
length of stay, it has to be estimated. Otherwise, we're we're we are uh uh uh specifying what Steve understands as far as what people who have moved in. Yeah. Okay.
Okay. Can you hear me now? Yeah. Yes, I can. Clearly, that's an accomplishment on my part. Thank you. I know. We're partway there. Do we have an opinion from Nishoba from
the letter that attorney Lily sent? I believe I will ask Bridget to provide us one at this point. Can you hear me? Yeah. Yep. Um, so I think the goal is to obviously
move this facility in the direction of of the hotel motel. Um, and that's based on the time frames, you know, staying there um, specified in state regulations, but also the heir's zoning
bylaws. So I my opinion is if the board is going to issue a permit, it be only for 90 days with specifications. um set by town council that we see movement of individuals from the hotel
motel. Um and then again go back to what a hotel and motel would normally be which is people staying there under the I think it was the 90 days. Yeah. I I guess my question, Bridget, is there
anything in the letter that doesn't meet requirements that you see or is there anything absent from the letter that we received from attorney? I I mean, the letters, you know, has some great points, but it, you know, this is a hotel motel that was purchased and
that's how it should be run. Um, I didn't see any time frames specified in there when individuals would be moved out and I think that's important for the board to look at. Yep. But as it Yeah, I noted that too. Yeah,
as it relates to COVID and so the COVID policy looked good um in writing, but again, we have people that have been living there for, you know, three years, 5 years, two years, um 16
weeks. So um if it was actually being run as a hotel motel the co plan that is in place looks good. Yeah. And the reg and the documentation and the postings
are you comfortable with what he has they will do? Yes. Okay. And you are keeping the guest register now correct Mr. Wel? Yes, she is. Okay. All right. Great.
If if this is to be um a motel hotel, I think I can't remember if I had asked this before. Um you had said there is somebody on the premises during the day. What about at night if people are, you know, ransom population, somebody comes
to check in? Is there anybody there at night? I'm I'm there from typically this time. Are you able to hear Steve's mic? I It's low. I can I can hear I'll I'll
mute. So you you have somebody there during the day. If somebody comes to the front desk and checks in, but at night, what what would it look like if somebody came and checked in at night? Is there somebody there? Is is it unlocked? Is
there someone behind the desk? Is like a typical motel? Can't hear him. No, I can't. No, I can I can say it. He's saying typically nobody is there um overnight,
but that he does come in um after work. Uh couple hours for a couple of hours from what time to what time? Okay. Generally 5:30 to sometimes 7:30 5:30 to 7:30 or 8:30. And in the
morning, in the morning, do you go as well? I go in the morning just to check in. He does go in the morning to check in as well. It's just the overnight is not uh it's not it's not currently populated there. My phone number is there
to my cell phone at home. He does leave emergency contact information there. Okay. All right. I got you. And is there a website or are you listed on any of the any
other like travel websites or anything? No. Okay. All right. I'm going to have Steve uh use this mic here. Yeah. So can you hear me now? Yes.
Yes. So I heard website I do not have a website. I don't feel that I need one. Um you also have seen my uh degree of technology awareness. So if I have to run that thing I hear you. Um
I get that. But there's also Yeah, I got it. If you Google hotels, motel in air, uh it shows up. So it's just there's so much out there already. Um I talked to
the former owners because uh I was told that they had one and the the reason they got one is uh apparently Google had offered them a free one. They had never had one up until then and that was shortly before they sold it to me. So, I mean, it's
been around forever. Everyone knows it's there. So, it's only word of mouth. So, I Steve, I think the question is the former owners lived on the property, right? Yes. So, there was never an issue with anything going on at night. And I just
wondered if um maybe Bridget or PM could speak to this. Is it in the regulations to run a a hotel motto? Should like typically if if you're traveling and you need you want to pull over and get a
room for the night, you check into a place and there's somebody there and I'm wondering about the safety issues from this if then there's nobody on the premises that and there's all these rooms and if somebody were to come in the middle of the night, they'd have to call you on
your cell phone. Yeah. So, the way the former owners ran it, um, they were closed, I want to say, from 10 at night till 9 in the morning. I believe that's right. But I could be off a little bit. So, if someone came to the door wanting a room,
they weren't they weren't answering it. Um, yeah. They don't Well, I I can understand. You know, you don't know who's going to be at that door at 2 in the morning trying to come in. So yeah,
I mean it's a small motel. It's not a big Holiday in or something. And um Yeah. No, that makes sense. Just curious. I get that. Yeah. I mean, I I do have some interest in having somebody manage the property.
I I had mentioned that I think in the the first meeting. Uh I haven't found anybody that I feel I could do that with. Um I hope to and um Richie I gota
can you hear me? Yep. So I guess that's the question is if somebody I mean if you clearly look at the reviews that were have been posted um it was acting as a hotel and motel in the past people you know had stayed there for um soccer tournaments things
like that on Devons. How does one call and book a room? I guess if it's going to be a hotel motel, I think the board should feel comfortable with the fact that people can call and book a room. The list that you submitted does not seem to show any people coming and staying for one or two nights um you
know, as it was in the past. So, I guess that's the other concern is that um the board has to take that into consideration. How do you call and book a room if no one's there? Um, it it like I said, if the if you
know the phone number to the motel, if you call that, it bounces to my cell phone. But have you had anybody stay there for for one or two nights? Yeah, I have. How are they not on the list that you gave us?
There is a list that we just provided. Unmuted. So, I only saw one on there that just checked in today. Are there other people that are There is a new one from today, right? Yeah. But other than that, has anybody stayed here for one or two nights? Yes. How come they weren't included in the
list? They they were on the first list. There was another one. I have the first list. I don't So I I can also say that it it seems like virtually everybody I shouldn't say everybody, but most
people want the weekly rate. Um, it's $490 a week for a daily rate and it's 350 for a weekly rate. So, you you're saving a lot of money. Um, some I know, but as in the past, like I said, according to the reviews, people stayed
there overnight for tournaments on Devons. They stayed for family reunions, parties, things like that. They sort of just went there for a night or two. That doesn't seem to We're in a pandemic. I mean, no one's going to soccer tournaments and parties. Come on.
I'm just asking a question. I think it's a I think it's a viable question. There are still people that need a room for a night at times. So, coming in for work, whatever the case may be. I'm just asking a question. So, you're you're asking
Let me let me switch with him so that it's not we're not getting the echo here. Okay. Uh, so you're asking why things weren't on on the list that we had provided. It's kind of hard to capture snapshot of a person there for a single
night or or um or a single single day. You would asked us to provide you with a list of people that were there and for how long they had been there. So, we took some snapshots, one from um uh January and and one as of today, and we
were able to capture as of today that there was a person that had been there for for one day. Things do turn over. Um but but yeah, that's that's where we're where we are with that is is that we're
uh um it it it is what it is. who were able to turn to to give to you at at the time. So it's not that the list is so I'm just taking a snapshot we the requirement is that you submit
the complete guest register though. So is this guest register that was submitted not complete? We weren't asked to submit a guest register. We were asked to submit um I believe that's what Janelle asked you today was the guest register which would
include all of the guests. That's not the email message I got. I believe she called you on the phone. No, I called her after um the email had come down. The words guest register wasn't listed.
It was a listing of of guests their um I I clarified here. Let me see. I don't have that. I'm sorry. I don't have the email in front of me, but it was a list of the people that were present uh as of today and and and the dates that they
had been present. We weren't able to get you the date, but we indicated uh by by using our previous list how long people had been there. So, but no, you didn't. We weren't to clarify. We want a list of all of the guests
and the time that we've given you that. So everybody that's ever stayed there was included in this. No, it's there. We need to look at that's what we that's what the whole procedure is to look at
who's staying there for how long, where are they coming from? You know, in the world of COVID now, are they coming from other states? How long are they staying? So that was the whole purpose of it is you always you should be keeping a list of every guest and how long they stay
and we should have access to that as the board of health and and that's not a problem. That wasn't what was asked of us and that's what I that's what I had. Well, that was the intent. That was the intent. That may have been the intent, but that was not what was communicated to me.
What I had understood is that you were looking for a list of who's there now and how long they've been there. That's what we gave you. So to clarify, it would be a complete list of every guest moving forward that the board has access
to that. Yeah. So if we come in, we could see and we'll be a register that that that establishes that. Yes. Could we have the Could we have all the guests for the past as well? So how far back are you looking to go because we have provided that
previously. So we a list of everybody that stayed there from the time he purchased it till now. Okay. So we had given you that back in uh January without the names. I can fill
in the names and give you that. Would you like? So it's all the but it's all the same people. It looks almost identical. I have it in front of me with the exception of the new guest today. That's not true. I have it right in front of me. What do you have in front of you?
So, I have the one from January. I'm having a hard time responding to what you're saying because I don't know what you're what you're talking about. Okay. I think what the board needs is a list of all the guests that have stayed there from the time Steve purchased it
until today. We will we will get you that because I have the one from you from January 8th. Yes. And there's a little bit of deviation, but it doesn't look like there's much of
anything at all. We have there's not a lot. I think there might be one unit that's slightly different. Um, one came in today and unit six might have a new um individual staying there, but other than that, I guess the what the board needs to do to make a decision
is really understand and make that this is going to be operated as a hotel and motel or motel. But but I think we set out a plan as to as to which as to how we're going to do that. I'm happy to provide you with all the information that you're asking for,
but I don't see how what one has to do with with establishing whether we're doing the other. I think the the tiein is that it looks like you're pretty well chock full with
long termers except for you you have the one that checking today and I know you've got a couple of others that are are relatively short stays a month or a couple of weeks but it's we're we're trying to evaluate
if you were to as far as new business is concerned as as you manage to relocate people into better situations, you will have more units uh available to actually operate as a motel. But could you even
do that right now? I think is what the the question we're trying to figure out. Do you have units to offer to people under the you know kind of right now units are full? Yeah. Okay.
Uh we do do have an owner's unit that is going to become instrumental in trying to um accommodate some people that have been there for for an extended period of time and to be
able to have that transitioning period. U and we're working that out as well. But there there okay since our last meeting there has been some turnover. Yeah, a lot does remain the same but
there has but is operating as a hotel motel though um uh dealing with that. Yes, there has been some extended stays but that's what we're attempting to address with this program. So it's you know you look at things as
kind of a carrot and stick situation. We're we're we're giving incentive here with this with this program while um we're not able to do what what was being suggested previously with by way of evictions
and I think we'd like to try to avoid evictions if we can. So, well, actually, I'm not sure that anybody recommended evictions as as a way to deal with this, but
was the logical um alternative? I don't know. You can um call in your credit card number to somewhere and put them up. you know that there are there are a lot of of different alternatives but
I there's a also a little bit of concern to tell you the truth that you have a couple of people on the list that you know we've been talking about this since when did your application go in September
the application for the license I'm looking for that in my pile here September we started talking about it around October so Just in that period of time you you have acquired people that are now out to 12 13 weeks, six weeks.
So what are you how are you rolling the announcement of this program out your to your tenants? Are are you going to go to them and tell them that they they
must leave by some certain time? Are you just going to make them aware that these things are available and let them make their own decisions? You know, kind of what's the roll out plan for this? So, so the rollout plan is to talk to people individually. each each of the tenants. We're going to sit down with
them and explain that that that we have uh the the situation that we do have to have people uh moving out uh and that we we've implemented these tools as a means of of assisting people. We don't want to
be in a situation where all of a sudden we're upsetting people. you know, these people are are paying um are paying to stay there and we want to maintain a good relationship uh with them, right? So, want them want them um overstaying
uh the welcome of of of what creates a hotel motel. So, we we have to explain this to them which which as we had talked about in in previous meetings brings up the issue of well a lot of these people have nowhere
else to go. Well, this program addresses that. This program sets out uh what these people can do in order to have something. The problem I do see and have continued
to see is deal with this issue now in this environment with the with the with the pandemic uh going on and and um the the moratorum on evictions and everything else that we're in a
situation that is unlike what we would have been in last year or or or you know and any other any other time. Yeah. Um we have to be responding
uh in ways that are understanding of what of what people are going through. And you see a lot with hotels now where no hotels are doing well. Hotels are not um the vacation spot that
right and business travel is on too. People aren't people aren't moving. People business travel as it as it used to exist doesn't exist right now. So you're not having the people booking the overnight stays. And so how are
these hotels trying to survive? Well, a lot of them have become havens for um people who are sick. So, they have they have um set up uh uh contracts with the state that they'll accept certain amount
of people to come in who might be COVID positive or need to quarantine and and allow that's not what I'm trying to do here. But that's an example of of some kind some out outside the box thinking that's helping these these businesses
stay in business, but also um is helping people and helping helping the situation. I'm proposing something that I that I hope is is is kind of outside the box as well with this uh with this program. I I would like the board of
health to to to approve that so we can go forward. I have no problem with revisiting things in in 90 days and seeing where we are, but I want to work with the board. I don't want to work against the board. Yeah. No, I've I've got you. But are you
telling so some of the people um and then I'll I'll stop dwelling on the specifics but as new people come in are are you making them aware upfront that look this is only a temporary that these
are the the limits on your stay? I would imagine that once you issue the motel policy they will get that when they check in. Yes. So they'll get something in writing. But are are you And that writing is what was included part of the attachment to my
letter. Yeah. Yeah, I saw that. Yeah. Okay. But what about the people that are there, you know, that maybe have come in in the last month or two? Are do you have any inkling yet as to I mean, do you expect these
people to be long haulers or Well, we're not expecting anyone to be long haulers. Yeah. Yeah. It just kind of happens, right? I know. Yeah. Um we're we're expecting that people are going to treat this as a hotel motel going forward. We
do need to have um uh that time to to establish uh the the track record so to speak so that we can show you what how things are playing out, right? Um so I I I I would suggest we do that.
We we do have uh some of what you might call the long haulers who recognize that they have to move on and have taken steps and are continuing uh to look and to secure alternative housing. I think
one is moving uh out of state um or looking to do so and we're we're attempting to encourage that. Yeah. So while we don't have a lot of teeth here to the carrot and stick approach to mix a metaphor,
um we we do we do have um uh an incentive program that I think is is a helpful one. I would agree. I I I do like the incentive program and I can see where that that could really help. There's one
more thing about the motel and you may have touched on this in the plan that you sent, but I believe um it says that the pool will be closed until
further notice or is that right? Yes. No one is allowed in the pool area until further notice. Okay. And you do know that you need a a permit to operate the pool. Do you know We do now. Okay. We're not planning to
We do now. Yeah. So, the pool until but we'll we'll make sure that we get the permit uh before. Okay. All right. So, what I guess if we you could give us as
a a board and our agent um Bridget a moment to discuss. You can certainly stay on the line. That's that's not a problem. Um, but I do thank you for all the information that you submitted and you pulled a lot together in a short period of time. So,
I I do give you credit for that. Well, thank you. Uh, all right. So to my board members then and Bridget of course um I am thinking that what we
do here is we do something like the the short-term license the 90-day and include conditions in that you know such as kind of some of them are loose ends like you know pool
can't be opened until you have the appropriate permits or whatever. Um, but also with a kind of reminder that the idea here is to ultimately come into complete compliance with operating as as
a motel and that's very well defined in their documents. So if we do a 90-day with some conditions and say we will revisit this in 90 days then we'll have
some actual performance data to evaluate. It's all prospective. It's all true plans at this point. But I think there in my opinion I think
that there's is some good intent. I think that you've got you've done a good job of documenting where you want to go and now it's it's really up to you to if you want to operate a motel and that's
the license you applied for, turn it into a motel again and we'll we'll look at what's happened there in in the next 90 days. Any any thoughts on that? Anybody with different
opinion? I hate not being able to see everyone. Hey Pam, this is Steve. Um, from the Bridget's perspective, if we did issue a um license with conditions and 90 days,
how often do you plan to inspect down there? Or is there a plan? Or would you normally go in there every 30 days? I don't have a feeling what That's why we need um
Hello. Can you hear me? Sorry. Can you hear my dog? Sorry. Um so that's the whole the whole purpose of the guest list including every
individual that comes and goes. That's how we that's how we'll monitor um whether or not it's conforming to a hotel motel and this is according to town council by the way. Um, so we'll get that list. Um, it could be every 30
days and then from there, it's not a physical inspection of the property, but the guest register, um, including all of the people that come and go every day, short-term, um, you know, everybody
every 30 days is given to the board. Um, it could be through Heather and then we review that and then in would be yes that would be one of the conditions so you could do it every 30 days of the
register yeah yeah I mean you could do it every 30 days or you could wait you know the 90 days before the next meeting and then you know again if there isn't any movement the enforcement action goes to the town um you know the board is by
giving the 90 days it's allowing people time to relocate and then again in at the end of 90 days the town um can take over enforcement action through zoning. So I I guess just to kind of define that
a little bit better, would we get an update from you after 30 days that they're following conditions if we listed something or is it your intent not to get back to the board for 90 days? I don't you know if we do a 90-day license, how do we know that
they're coming towards compliance? that um they would have to email not just me but you as the board as well so you can see the compliance through the through the process just like yeah and I think that's a requirement that yes or a condition that we would place on the license that complete copy
complete transmitt of the guest register every 30 days so we generally don't do inspections at the hotels in motel for the most part unless there's a complaint um the biggest complaint that I've had um in the past with hotels has been bed bugs.
So generally um site evaluations are done that way by complaint but for this for enforcement like I said the guest register is the big issue here who's coming who's going um how long are they
staying and the board can put the condition that um you know that material is sent to the board and it could be like I said every 30 60 you know or the 90 days and it doesn't just go to me it goes to you so that you can see and view it as well. So, you're you're right
there in the loop. I guess my thought 30-day basis to make sure that coming towards compliance. I don't want to get 90 days and find out that oh, nothing's happened. Um, that's not the intent is to run a
business according to the law and that's all I care about. 100% agree. I I get it. Yeah. Yeah. Me as well. Can I can I add something or or would that is that out of order at this point?
No, go ahead. Go ahead. So, this expectation of what the 90day period is going to show and an intent to follow the law or not, I again I don't
think I I I I think looking at this in 90 days is is absolutely appropriate. building up the expectation that this needs to show that that things have completely done in an about face might
be unrealistic but I think we need to be able to so I don't want to draw any conclusions right now as to what it needs to show but I want to make sure that it's clear that we are embarking on this program not having done it before not knowing what
the turnaround is going to be and not knowing how co's affecting I I just don't want to build up the false hope that we're going to come to you and say, "Okay, it's all cleaned up now." I think we need to show that we're that
we're doing what we need to in good faith. We can show you every step of what the program has has done to to to show that we've been doing this in good faith. um we can provide um uh the guest register.
And by the way, just just to be clear so that we're both on on the same page, exactly um the information that you'd be looking for in the guest register, would it just be their their their names and the the dates in which they they've been
there, or is there more that you're looking for? Bridget, um it's who has been there. So, the names, that's how we track who's been there, keep track of who's been there. Um, and the dates
and obviously then, you know, by indicating the the the names, we know the number of people in the rooms. Um, but again, you know, in talking to town council, the goal here is compliance. Um, we've been doing this since November
and there should be substantial compliance otherwise the town is going to have to take over. um the board is a hotel what it would take to be compliant and that's I think what we've been kind of
going around on if there again there should go ahead there should be movement of of people and this should be heading in the direction of a hotel motel short-term stays transient agree
um not one or two people moving out, but th this list should be it shouldn't be the same people in 90 days. The board's going to have to make that decision in 90 days. I don't think it's fair to ask them. Um, you know, again, the applicant
applied for a hotel and motel license. Um, this program and everything, like I said, is a wonderful thing, but again, he applied for a hotel and motel license. That's what the board has been asked to issue. Um, and he has to demonstrate that that's what it's going to go back to. And I again I can't speak
for the board, but that's what the discussion has been um with town council, how to get it back to where it was. So So I agree with that. It's it's how to get it back to where it was. But I do I don't want to I when we conclude by saying it shouldn't be the same people
on the list. I agree that that we're trying to um create a list of of that shows that uh we have a complete turnover, but to have that um as the expectation after after just 90 days
might might be might be an issue given given where we're starting from. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, but I don't think Go ahead. Well, I don't think we can say ahead of time that we're going to hold you to in 90 days, you have to have 100%
compliance. I also don't know what number could we pick that is substantial. So it it's a it's a little difficult to you know put any numbers or metrics on this thing
ahead of time but what we are going to be looking for 90 days from now is that there has been some substantial movement towards your goal of operating a motel. Understood. So let's let's see where we're at the data when it comes. Yeah.
And I think I think that's the thing. And keep in mind that especially since you are already working with um affordable housing in town, you're already working with economic and community development that
in 90 days if we determine that it it you know what it's just it's not moving towards a motel. That doesn't mean that you have to burn the place down and say forget about it. It just means that now it be it's a zoning enforcement thing.
So, and it does sound like there are groups in town that want to work with you on that. So, it might be just a matter it's of it's not under our jurisdiction because it's not a hotel motel, but there may be something else. So,
we're back to that discussion. Understood. Understood. Let's look at it. Let's look at it in in 90 days. So, um, we're coming up on on 8:00. So, any anybody have further comments? If not,
I'll make a motion. Pam, I just had ahead. I just had a question. I see that Chief Johnson and Chief Murray have been sitting in on this meeting. Um, and I wondered if there uh if we needed any input um from either one of them.
I know it's just a 90day decision right now, but if they had any comments, you've been sitting there listening to this. Go ahead. No, thank you. Because I'm not I'm not online, so I don't see who. Yeah, we have both chiefs here. Trish, I can just
nothing's changed on the nothing's changed on the fire department end at all because the uh use is going to stay the same. So unless the use changed, then there's no change on the fire department end, you know, from the occupancy. Okay. Okay.
And we've been in the loop all along between Charlie and Bridge and us. So we've been kept. So no, everything's good if the uh use isn't going to change. Okay. But thank you. Okay. And we're not really affected by any of
this either. Uh our main concern is more the clientele and we have experienced an increased call volume at the business since Steve took over which is troubling to us. So we're trying to pin down why has there been
such a a dramatic increase. It's a dramatic increase. Yes. Increase. Increase. So, and that that being said, that was my original question about is the increase of calls at is is it at
night? I would have to do a search of our our log entries. I can get that information to the board. And and that was my initial question to Mr. Wetzel about no nobody there on the premises at night for, you know,
anything that could come up. But I didn't I didn't I wanted to know if that was a regulation and apparently it's not. But okay. Well, one one question I would ask is I
know the last time we discussed this um Chief Murray, you had mentioned that, you know, a lot of the calls are, you know, kind of non um well, I mean, they're police work, but they're they're not there's not a criminal element. They
might be serving papers for someone or or doing a check. Is there a change in the type of calls or incidents that you've been seeing? That's what I would have to research. Pam, um my sense is there has been a
change since that initial time that we sent the logs. So, I'll just I'll do a search of those tomorrow and send them over to you. Thank you. Okay, great. because yeah that I mean that does have to be something that we
take into consideration and even if this establishment gets designated as something other than a hotel motel that will be important. So I guess my my best advice to Mr. Wetszel is to, you know, try to keep an eye on
what's going on there. And if there are some increased issues and they're coming from a, you know, small group of people, as is sometimes the case, it only takes a few to make a lot of noise, then, you know, you might need to do something
with that group of people. you might need to have some discussions with them about how this is jeopardizing your your licensing. Can I suggest that to the extent that calls are coming in to the police um on
and I guess you're saying on a more stepped up basis since he had purchased the place. I know you had said that back in uh um I want to say December when uh when he had had the place for 90
days. Has that continued um uh throughout uh to to um uh February as well? Did were was there a step up in in calls in January? Jude,
I can't say positively. It's just my sense of things. That's why I really got to check the logs and verify and get some valuable information. So, Steve very much wants to make sure that he's in compliance and that and and
that he's he his guests are are also following the law. So to the extent that the police are responding to situations, if Steve could be notified that a call went out uh and that this was this was the situation, um he can address that
internally as well. And I think that that's probably a good idea as far as um having that relationship between the police and and the hotel. Yeah, I think we can work with that. Thank you. Thank you.
Okay. Sam Pam. So, yes. Yeah. I just wanted to go through um we did request from town council um if we issue
or if the board issues a permit for 90 days. Um she clearly said that it should be required that the license holder within a certain period of time 90 days um from date of issuance bring the operation into full compliance with general master general law section 140
in the state sanitary clo code including requiring the relocation of any long-term occupants that have resided there for more than that period of time and required um certification to the board that occupations have I'm sorry occupants have been relocated um that
was you know from town council. So, I think it's important that we do put that in there and that they also it it's in um on their permit that they it's prohibited any future occupants to reside at the property in a non-transient manner. Um that means in in excess of 90 days that's specifically
from town council. So, I think that really needs to be on the permit if you decide to do it tempor a temporary permit. I I agree with that because that that is that is the goal here. That's the intent is to operate this thing as a motel in
accordance with with the mass regul. So I would agree with that. Okay. I agree that that's the intent. But to but to to shut the door on things in 90 days in this in this time period is is
is is setting us up for failure. I think the board can certainly reevaluate in 90 days. has has said provided. I was never given a copy of that, but I'd like I'd like the opportunity to respond to whatever to whatever occurs
within that 90-day period and to be able to make my point at that point uh as to as to what the data shows and how we are coming in or attempting to do so. So to have that uh cut and dry
black and white this is where we're going to be in 90 days or else type of situation I think is is is really problematic. Again that was um from our council. So and and that's and that I understand that yeah but I I
didn't see that so I'm not sure what the attorney client privilege Mr. Lily. I'm sure you understand that. So we asked for an opinion we received the opinion. Um, again, that is just the direction that we were pointed by town council. So, I just wanted to make that
clear that if that's what the board wants to do, um, because, you know, again, you're going to vote on it, but we have to draw up a permit that specifies everything completely in writing, um, to protect the board of health in 90 days.
Right. So I I think that by putting that condition it it's really saying that this is where you need to go. You need to get to the point where you are operating a motel
because this is a motel license. We're not saying that if you, as I mentioned earlier, if you don't have 100% compliance in 90 days, we're just going to slam the door and say that's it. Forget about it. We're going to
re-evaluate in 90 days. But I think it is essential that we point out that this is where you have to go. You have to become compliant with air zoning bylaw and the state regulations
for hotel motel. So that's your goal. That's it. If you can achieve it in 90 days, that's fantastic. If you can't, then we need to look at where that situation leaves us. But I I don't really feel that as a
board we should be taking on the authority to create some new rules really for a a new entity that we haven't defined. So I think we've got to stick with the regulations and the
bylaws as they're printed. I I agree with how with how you how you phrase that. I think that's that's exactly right. That's the expectation. Um and and if that expectation is not met, then we determine what why and what
exactly. We we evaluate. We look at what has happened over the 90 days. We'll have those 30-day um snapshots of of how things are going. So, yeah, I I I don't think that that's u anything to be afraid of having that requirement. I
think it's more a it's just a statement of fact. Understood. Okay. So, where do we go from here? How is that? Um well
um I can propose I can make a motion at this point that um I move that the board grant a limited time period 90 days from the date that the license is issued for
the operation of Mimi's Place as a hotel motel defined in the state regulations and in heirs bylaw. And we will craft some specific conditions, you know, one of which we
really just explained that making sure that we're referencing the the state regs and our bylaws and, you know, not opening the pool until you have um proper licensing. So, we'll work out the actual conditions,
but yeah. Um, I what I think the board should do, if you don't mind me interrupting, is just go over the conditions that go over the conditions that were presented um by town council now so that the board can vote on those
conditions and it could be typed up with a permit for town council to review before issuing. So, okay, that does make sense. Do you want me to read the list of conditions? Uh, yes, please. Oh, okay.
And then you would vote on those conditions, right? So, what we would what we would then be the motion and the vote would be to issue the 90-day license with the conditions we just listed.
Yes. Is the board okay with me reading this? Yeah, I am. Yeah, I'm fine, Steve. Oh, go ahead. Okay. So the first condition would be that the license holder within a certain
period of time 90 days from the date of issuance bring operation into full compliance with Mass General Law 140 in the state sanitary code including requiring the relocation of any long-term occupants that have resided there for more than the period of time
required I'm sorry more for more than the period of time and require certification. to the board that such occupants have been relocated. Prohibit any future occupants to reside at the property in a non-transient manner, for example, in ex in excess of
90 days. Um, ensure compliance with co COVID 19 sector specific requirements um as in they're in effect now. Ensure that there's a guest register with information regarding the occupants length of stay which can be made
available to it to the board or its agent upon request. Post a copy of the license with notice to all current and future occupants with these conditions. Provide a status update to the board in
90 days um as to the compliance of the conditions. Um and we would ask that we have an update every 30 days on the individuals living there um as we discussed in this meeting. And then I
would also include that the um pool is currently unlicensed and uninspected. So it that can't be used until that's brought into compliance. Yes. And that was from town council.
Okay. I will second the conditions. Okay, perfect. All in favor? I um can we have a little bit of discussion before we actually vote? Oh, yeah, of course. Of course.
Yeah. Y in respect to um having it 100% compliance. I understand what attorney Lily is saying, but at the end of 90 days, if there's no movement towards compliance, I think that's a completely
other issue. Um, I look at the board as acting I look at the board as acting in good faith and I would hope that the other parties are doing the same thing. I I agree and I I think that this is going to require
Mr. Wel to to work hard o over the next 90 days and I I do agree that we need to see some substantial movement towards sole compliance. That will be a very easy decision to make. If there's absolutely no change,
no movement in 90 days, then it it's going to be very clear that we need to look at something else. Yep. Yes. All right. That being said, Pam, can I make a suggestion on this, too?
Oh, please. Since we have a public hearing in front of us, we do either need to close it or continue it. Um my suggestion would be that we leave it open otherwise they have to readvertise it in that 90 days. So if the board wants to look um the 90 days would be up
sometime the beginning of May to continue this hearing until that meeting date. So um Mr. Wel and attorney Lily have an idea when that 90 days will be up. Just so we know we're going to be discussing this again. Otherwise, we're saying 90 days.
What? So, I just would like to see that date set. Um, it's nothing to write up a decision on this. It would take me probably have it done by, you know, Wednesday, Thursday at the latest. So, um, they would have that. So, I just want to make sure we're doing that just because it is a public hearing.
When is the annual That makes a lot of sense. When is the When is the annual renewal on the license due? They expire in December. It's December 31st as a general rule. Okay.
You want to vote? Pam, what meeting dates do we have? Yeah. Actually, let's get the vote out of the way first. Okay. Well, like I said, Pam, I'd want to have a date on that just so we have an idea as part of the um the motion,
unless you want to make a separate one. No, let's do No, I'm sorry. What's that? Pam, should we get let Heather get the date so that Mr. Lily can hear
or vote? So yeah, that's what I'm not really sure of. If if you want it included in the vote, then we have to pick Well, I I just we need we do need to come up with that though before we conclude this because we do need to continue the meeting to a certain time.
And I do want to put that 90day like time frame on that permit. And I think it'd be best that we're meeting to discuss this before that 90 days expires. Otherwise, we're we're reviewing something that is expired.
May May 11 is uh the second Tuesday in May, if that helps. Yeah, that's exactly what I'm looking at. And is um yeah, be May 10th is the second Monday. Oh, I'm sorry. Second Monday. May 10th.
Thank you. And is May a normal second and and fourth Heather I I believe town meeting is in April. So May would be normal just because the holiday is on the 31st.
Okay. Holidays on the 31st. Okay. Yeah. Then we would be normal meeting scheduled that month. Yeah. Um yeah. Then we could then as part of that vote um say that we're going to continue this to May 10th. Yeah, just because I I just want to double check dates, too. I mean, I don't have
obviously able to countdown in front of me to to count the exact 90 days, but um I just want to have that meeting to discuss this before that permit date has expired because then you're looking at voting on expired license, which you'd have to readvertise and do the whole
process over again if my Yeah. board of health Yeah. licensing is is correct. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. I get. So today is the 8th and I'm thinking if we get this typed up, we want to run it by
county council. I mean we could Is it reasonable to think we could get this issued by the end of this week or do things not move that quickly? I I could get it I could get to town council by by in the next day or in the
next two days. I mean you say we're I'm in town hall tomorrow from 8 o'clock in the morning until I have a meeting at 6. So I think in that I think in that 10 hours I think I could get that done. Yeah, you'll Okay, you'll have time because that looks to me like if we um
continue this until May 10th is Yeah, that's going to be pretty darn close to the 30 days. Yeah, that' be really close that 90. I think I think we the the board would if we feel like we're getting too close that we missed it. I'm sure the last
meeting we can tweak it then so in April. Thank you for entertaining me on this. Okay. All right. So, we can move it up to April if we need to. Is that we realize in April that we're getting
close? We can just extend it to that meeting. I just I just want to make sure understanding this before we we we issue everything and get that all done. I want to make sure I have these dates and stuff in set. Okay. All right, I got you. Anyway, we could set it for seven
actually help for I'm sorry, what was that? 7:00. Is that a possibility? Uh yes. Yes. Thank you. Yeah, you'll have to check um Heather
and make sure that uh you know that the Zoom whatever is available at that later on that day, but that shouldn't be a Okay, great.
So, I completely lost track of where we are in a vote. I think we've had a motion to issue the temporary license 90 days with the conditions as suggested by town
council and that we're also going to continue this public hearing until May 10th 10th 10th. Yep, there it is.
All right, that's the motion. Anyone want a second? I second. All right. You okay to vote? No. All in favor? I I
Steve I Okay. Okay. So that is the that is the arrangement. Then we'll get the license temporary license drawn up. Um it will
have the conditions as Bridget listed them here and one of those will be to submit the guest register every 30 days. So, um, you know, we'll be we'll be in touch with you, I'm sure, before the the date of the next meeting, but
that's the, uh, that's the date to try to get yourself in as good a shape as you can. Understood. Thank you very much. Thank you. Okay. All right. Thank you. Okay. All right. Bye-bye. Bye. Okay. Bye. Bye.
Okay. So, just uh fortunately we don't have an awful lot left um on the agenda. Quick COVID update perhaps from Bridget. Good news.
Yeah, the um numbers are at 1,700 today. So, that's we're heading in the right direction. Um I did talk to Tamara this morning and things in air are looking pretty good. the um federal medical center had a
couple of cases over the weekend, but overall thing things seem to be heading in the right direction. So, that's good news. Um, great. I also heard that LOL General um is opening up a vaccine clinic as well,
which is I saw that in the paper. Yeah. Yeah. right now it's specifically um what's happening is it's for um doctors that are in the circle health network are able to um
get their um patients vaccinated. So, for example, I guess um some of the doctors are calling the over 75 individuals um and asking them if they want the vaccine. So, they're able to go to this facility and get the vaccine um
through their primary care physician. Um so, that's good news. Anybody that's in the area and their primary care physicians are associated with Circle Health. Um it's an option closer um if individuals can't drive. um it's closer for kids to bring their parents
or grandparents to LOL um if their doctors are part of that network. So that's that's a positive that came out today as well. So yeah, I would agree it is the the more places that we can get actually, you
know, administering vaccines, the the better it is for all of us. And we are continuing to hold clinics, correct? They're not really clinics because they're they're by appointment. Is is that correct? What is this doing? Yeah.
Yeah. And so what we're trying to do is um advocate with the state delegation, state representatives um and senators to have the state get more vaccines for us to issue to member towns. So
yeah, um it's, you know, again, it's all based on how many vaccines we can get from the state and that's based on how many vaccines the state can get from the federal government. So if we can get more um we did have a
clinic last Wednesday. I did work it. Um it was it was great and it was easy. We had a lot of compliments. People were very happy. Um and you know again it did um serve individuals 75 and older. So
like I said they were very grateful. It was it went very well. Um I mean it was it was really it was really humbling to say the least. But like I said um the goal is to get more vaccine and vaccinate more people.
Absolutely. Where was the clinic at? Um it was on Devon's at the I think it was the old officers club. Yeah. So what um just because we're only limited right now in the number of vaccines that we have um we're working
with the Council on Aging um in um representatives in each town. They're keeping a list and they're registering those individuals for the clinic. So if you are if you are an air resident
at this point and qualify under the 75 or older, it's still only 75 or over. Correct. Correct. Yeah. Okay. Then you need to call on a angel. Correct. Um I have had some people that
you know and I and I understand it's very confusing. they have called me um and rather than have them call somebody else, I take the names and phone number and pass that on to Karen and she's been great and she'll um she adds them to the list. Um and again, as we get more as we get
more vaccine, like I said, that's you know, that's the hope we can vaccinate more of the seniors, especially the ones that have transportation issues. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Okay. Anything
going on at the hospital that anyone is aware of? Are they offering vaccines? Does anyone know? I don't I don't know. I had I had heard today that some of um I had called Karen today only because um
of my situation. I'm taking care of my mom and stepdad and Shirley trying to get back to the Shirley Senior Center. And I called Karen to ask a question about myself being a a technically a healthcare worker because I'm living in
the house with two postcoavid people. and she had said that she heard and I I don't know where that the uh steward doctors at the hospital some of them were if they had the capability of
holding so many different storing vaccines or if if they had freezers or refrigerators in their offices. I don't know how much room. Okay. But that that could be something to check out with your own if you have a
physician up there call and see if they are um Yeah, it sounds like it's going to go through the physicians rather than like the hospital. Yeah, I think it's individual to the the doctors. Okay. All right.
Okay. Great. Thank you, Bridget. I'm glad to see that the numbers are finally going. You know, thank you. That is a bit of a relief. And anything other the lines of na material, any inspection reports, any
anything else from you, Bridget? Um I'm trying to think. I don't I don't think so. Um I did a housing last week. That report will be in the envelope for the next meeting. Um
Okay. Nothing major. All right. Okay. Got it. All right. Thank you. Um next item, review and approve minutes of the last
um meeting. Any discussion? everyone have a chance to to read the minutes. Are you okay with with minutes? Um, I am. I I wasn't there, so I I just
perused them. And maybe Steve Yeah, I think that I think the meds look fine. reading through them, the board discussed that the due diligence was the
uh responsibility of the buyer, not the counter. And I don't see that included in the Yeah. And I also just realized something. The the minutes then that I scanned and sent out today,
I was jumping ahead of myself, wasn't I? those. I meant to be sending out the ones from the last meeting which I forgot to do and I think what I signed and sent out for tonight's so I'm sorry about that. I
I signed early. Um what do we need to do? Um Heather I'm sorry. Do we I made you can table the minutes and I can add the language and you can vote on them.
The next meeting is probably the easiest. Okay, sounds good. Okay, that sounds good. I know what I know what Steve's talking about and I thought I had put that in there and I apologize if I didn't. No apology necess.
Oh, so Pam, the one that you that you sent me that I was just going to initial because I wasn't present. Don't scan that to Heather. That's the wrong right because those were the I I was getting my email dates mixed up. So,
I will however send you and I'm making a big note on my copy of the agenda here. I will send you the ones I was supposed to send you from the previous meeting because I don't think I signed those. Is that right, Heather? Is that what your
record show? Yeah, I I had to go through a bunch of mine. Um, I have both my boards, I have meeting minutes that are missing off the website that in in my binders that I'm going to spend the next few days and weeks figuring it all out. So, I'll send
you all the ones that I'm missing to make sure that they get signed. The town hall being closed and virtual meetings, getting all this stuff done. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. So, yeah, just ignore the one um Trish that I I sent out that was done.
I'll wait here for you. Okay. And we'll put that on the agenda then for next um next meeting. Pam, I do have a question. Uh in terms of process, is there a budget that's been put together for the board of health for the
coming town meeting? Yes. Um we got Oh, boy. And Heather, you're going to remember the dates probably better than I will, but the process is that we get a copy of what our budget
was for last year, what we have spent out of that budget so far and what we're proposing for the next fiscal year. And that's usually done in November or December. Everything's usually due to the town manager's office usually the first week of December so they can get
everything ready to go through fincom. So everything's ready to go. So they've already had one FinCom meeting. They're having another one um actually the same day as our meeting in March that we have to figure that out. So was that done about right
and because of COVID and everything all towns all all departments were advised to do um same as last year with no increases. Yeah. So we did that but we just wanted to level fund for for the next 15
always level funded. And was the assessments from the show level funded too? Uh, you know, I'm never really sure how they work that out because I think that
um Heather, doesn't the accounting for the town get that figure directly from Jim? I believe they do. And I believe it comes out later than um our required. I think they get theirs in like senders out in I think it's quite a bit later. I think it's usually right before spring
town meeting. So, it all gets it all the show all gets figured out somehow. Yeah, there is. Why don't you miss accounting? Yep. This happens every every year that there is a lag. So, we don't actually put in the dollar amount for Nishoba.
We leave it blank. So, it's got the numbers from last year, but then we also, you know, just put a note that these are you're going to have to get the real numbers from from Jim Graphy. And somehow every year they seem to work that out and get all the numbers in
time. Okay, Steve. Okay. Yeah, Steve, this is Cindy. There is a draft budget on the town managers page on the website which has the last draft of the budget and there is a separate
department for the NHOA board of health and there is a 5% increase 5% I don't know if that's the final um number for that or not but um all that's on the town manager's page who arbitrates that Cindy is that
between the board of health and the or does someone else do that. I don't know. I don't know where that come, you know, where that comes from. Um, we could find out, I'm sure. Yeah. I'm just curious. So,
no, my the way that I've understood the process up till now is that um Nishoba does their budget and I think that was part of what was going on at their last
executive committee meeting was looking at that budget. So then from that budget, Jim does an assessment to each town. I'm not sure if that's based on population or Yeah, that's the piece.
I'm not sure exactly how it's done, but then those figures for each town go to the town and they end up in the budget. I'm I have never been part of in the many years I've been on the board any
like negotiation with Michela that we think that the number should be different. If that's if that's what you're asking. It's more this this is what you're trying to be wondering how it just wondering how it happens. That's
all. Yeah. Yep. That's the that's the process as well as I understand it. I don't know. Bridget, do you have any insider information to offer? So, I don't want to give the wrong information, but this
is and I've sort of obviously I'm more in the field than Yeah. Yeah. Jim Jim's the Jim is the director, so this is his specialty, but um it's Whoa. Is that you, Cindy?
Can you guys hear me? That was Cindy. Yeah. Okay. I'm sorry. Uh something with a bunch of numbers just pumped up really big. Yeah, Cindy screen shared the budget. I did that. Sorry. I thought I was muted. I was talking. So I think what happens is through the um
through the executive committee meetings at Nishoba um they take all you know all sorts of things into consideration population um what's happening in each town and then the assessment is based on that
and then those numbers go to the town after the assessment is um is given and by the town I think um the accountant. Yep. It go Yeah, it goes directly from
the show to the um town accountant. But is it based on what's the assessment based on? Is it based on population or there other factor how many residents or how not residents but how many restaurants, how many
I think some of that's taken into consideration. So some towns um you know they're more septic based and fees are generated um from from those from the septic end of it and then the food end
of it. Um and then you know with air one of the issues that has always been are the sort of we call them the unfunded mandates where we do the housing inspections. Um and those we don't generate any fees based on
that. Um and I think is one of the towns that has the most housings out of all of our towns. Okay. So I think there's a whole bunch of things that are taken into consideration. um you know, like I said, septic, well,
population, um things like housing inspections, all of that is sort of looked at and then that's where they come up with different fees. Yeah. Hey, Pam, this is Steve. I don't want I don't want to belabor this. It's been a long meeting, but it is something I
Cindy, I appreciate it. I'll take a look at it offline. If I have questions, I get back to you. But I'd just like to understand what we're paying for and um you know how that process works. That's all. Yeah. There's and there's two numbers in
NOVA, right? There's nursing services are are broken out separately. Yes. I think there's there's two budget line items you're going to see from from NOVA. So one is just nursing services and then the other is all the other stuff that they do.
The other is I'll just I'll print out a copy of what Cindy sent and if I have questions I can bring them up later but I don't want to belabor it tonight. Okay. All right. That sounds good. On that note then do we have any other
do we have any mail? Do we have any bill? No. No. No mail. No bills. No. Wait. I haven't we haven't getting too much. It's been pretty quiet. Besides the normal No bills is always good.
Yeah. No bills and and mail is nothing more than the normal, you know, insurance waiverss for, you know, damage to property. I think that's the only mail that's really come in. All right. Gotcha. So then action items for next meeting.
Um, we've been kind of um overwhelmed with the Kazamana Mimi's Place hearing for a while. So I and it we're going on this is a late meeting tonight. So, I I don't really want to
dwell on it, but for action items, I I don't have anything in particular that I would like to put on other than kind of our usual stuff. And that could be a good meeting to just kind of catch our breath and, you
know, maybe have a more substantive talk about action items and things that we'd like to accomplish over the next couple of months. Yes. And just um want to remind you that um not Lori, Lori Sable is gonna is on the agenda for the next meeting.
Lori Sable. Okay. Oh, that's right. That's right. Yeah. And Pam, I was going to ask you is is there anything that you um I saw I quickly looked at some um emails from Lori Naring. Is there anything that we need
to um respond to or is she just forwarding or is she looking for time a time slot? Um she Yeah, she did send me an email today asking, you know, when would be a a good time for them to, you know, kind
of get back into the mix again. And although she did say, you know, I understand with all the COVID stuff going on, it's, you know, we can hold off a little bit. So, what I was thinking of doing there is I'm glad you reminded me about um Lori Sable,
Heather. Thank you. So, I think we could I could actually send um Lori Nearing back an email maybe suggesting that we hold off on that until the second either second
March meeting or um even April. Let's see what comes out of our next meeting as stuff that we feel we need to do on a short, you know, if there is anything we need to do on a short time frame. Okay,
sounds good to me. Hey Pam, is is there any documents from Lori that would help me come up to speed with what she's looking for? I don't get emails from her so I don't know you know it would be a discussion that she say or nearing
or sabal yeah either either one of them I don't have I have very little to go on what either one would be asking about it or talking about if there's any communications that have gone back and forth maybe I could get a
you didn't see any you didn't see any current ones Steve from Lauren No, nothing. Not to me. Okay. Because when I when I go on to check my email, there were a couple on there updated from PAS.
Um, yeah. And I I think Oh, I wonder she might not have Steve's Yes. Okay. All right. I will send her your email, Steve. But yes, there is a there's a lot of email communication.
Yeah. between um PACE and the board concerning this PAS stuff. So, let me start going through my emails and forward you things that will help you put it together, but I'll also um make sure that Lori Nearing has your email. And then
the other thing, Heather, is if you could ask um Lori Sable to just give us a little, you know, kind of background on what it is that she's she wants to talk to us about and what the
advantages, disadvantages might be just so that we have something to to review ahead of time. It doesn't have to be anything elaborate. Just Yeah. Oh, I'll definitely ask her for something and definitely send that out, you know, that Thursday before the meeting, if not sooner, so you guys have
some time to review it. Oh, yeah. Okay, perfect. That will be great. Okay. And the last very last thing I think is we need to change a date for March 8th. Is that correct?
Yep. Yep. The FINCOM is meeting on March 8th at 6 to discuss the budget. Um, so we either need to meet way before that or I don't think it' be a good time to do after that. So I don't who knows how long that meeting would take. So we either change the date completely or
just meet earlier. Yeah, I have a feeling that's going to be probably a a longer meeting. Can we meet if we think we can get because I think we have a short agenda
for for the next one. Well, for yeah, March, we should we don't unless something comes in. I don't anticipate there being anything coming. Yeah. The only unusual right thing is is going to be Lori Sabal. Yeah. Um
and that is going to be the meeting before that. So, is everybody available to meet at 5? Well, I What would you guys prefer to do? Would you like to move it earlier and just try to get it over with in an hour or
five or go back to the 5:30? I'm I'm good with whatever whatever you guys come up with, I'll be compliant. Okay. Because we were 5:30. What do you think? Right. But we'd have to move it up till 5, right?
At least because they um I'm sure that I'm sure they have to get their resume and everything. They only do one at a time and everyone logs in earlier. So I would think you'd want to do even earlier than five if you want to get an hour meeting in. I can tell you about that.
Yeah, Cindy would know better. Yeah, we need a half an hour. We need a minimum of a half an hour in between meetings to close one down and get the other one going. So that would push us half an hour. She
Yeah. Computers take care of all this. Like 4:30. Is that what you say? Computers and people. Yeah, I know. What time What time is the fin meeting? 6. At six. So you would have a heart stop
at 5:30. Is everybody available at 4:30 or is that That's too early. I can do it at 4:30. I get home at 4. So that gives me just enough time. Okay. What do you think? I'm fine with that. If you're okay with that, Steve,
then absolutely. You know, doing a later meeting. Okay. Okay. All right. March 8th at 4:30. at 4:30. Yeah. Yeah. We'll just pencil that in. Change
it at the next meeting. We can do that. I just wanted to make sure we had that set before I forgot when it was brought to my attention. Okay. All right. Yeah. If you just check and make sure then that we're good for for 4:30. We'll do the early bird special.
Very good. All right. Fantastic. Thank you all for a lengthy but productive meeting. Thank you. Any one in the mood to make any motions?
I second that. All in favor? I I I have a good night everybody. Good night. Thank