Good evening. Welcome to the finance committee meeting of Air Massachusetts for Thursday, October 2nd at 6 PM air town hall. This is an air a
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participation, please contact Carl Antineellis, assistant town manager at atmirair.mma. us or 978-77282 extension 100 prior to the meeting. Okay, I'm going to call the meeting to order.
Uh we first item on the agenda is a review and approval of the September 10th meeting minutes. Um but um we understand that um because we want to make sure the
minutes of that meeting are detailed and correct. Um we're going to wait till our next meeting on October 16th to review and give those approval. >> My apologies.
>> Oh no, no. again with my >> heart right out there. >> And I as I mentioned earlier and I publicly just thank you Eric and Andrew for your past jobs as secretary.
Okay. Um real quick uh starting to have our committee updates. Uh there was uh the rate review committee has met twice now and um currently uh the
topic being discussed is the um solid waste um budget and fees for the coming year. Um so over the last two meetings they've we've looked at um the current
um budget uh the proposed budget and are considering um the cost for the u bags and uh fees that would be charged.
Uh so the DPW group is preparing some new scenarios and on our next meeting we will be which I believe is October 14th um we will be looking at that and u
seeing what we want to do with that. However, as far as um water, sewer, and now the uh storm water uh funds, uh we have not uh touched on
those yet. Okay. Uh the next item here is capital planning committee. Um the capital planning committee had a meeting just uh on the 11th just like we did um on short
notice. Um and uh the results of that meeting were about the senior center and the they voted 4 to one to recommend and I'm going to defer to Robert for the exact details
>> of u what they u recommended to the select board. >> Sure. So Mr. Chair, gentlemen, good evening. So the capital planning committee has a much more narrow focus in sort of sort of checking the boxes on
the capital. So in looking at it and they had met with uh the building committee back in January I believe. So um first of all is to look at you know is the project within the borrowing capacity um of the town uh which it is
um as the presentation showed that um the borrow capacity of the town even with the project uh there's considerable uh capacity there. Secondly does it would it negatively impact the town's bond rating which um it would not. Um
and then there there and there's just a recommendation to the select board also to make sure that it it constitutes what is a capital project which it is. And then lastly they do make recommendations
on the funding mechanism. So obviously per the financial policies this would be a debt exclusion and they also um voted um 4 to one uh to recommend uh up to 2
million in capital stabilization as was presented. So that recommendation um will go to the select board and will be reflected in the in the warrant. And I'll just add actually tomorrow per the
town's schedule the capital directive will go out and I'll send it to the final tomorrow and all departments will have till October 31st. We give them about a month for this is for any capital for the upcoming year for for
the spring. So, capital plans will be due October 31st and then the committee um as Kurt knows will start to meet in November with a target to wrap up by January. And we're really stressing this year a very a really conservative
approach on on new capital based on the following interest rates of making borrowing higher. Secondly, the volatility on the federal and state level, and I don't mean that as a political statement, but there's a lot of volatility um that is
impacting potentially the economy, including tariffs and and inflation that's still out there. So, we will keep the committee um updated and also as we start this process, the capital planning web page, as the committee knows, will
have all of the materials. I think that's it in a nutshell, Kurt. >> Okay, great. Thank Thank you, Robert, for summarizing that. So, um Okay, so any questions, comments on the rate review andor planning, capital planning
updates? Okay. Now, um on the agenda, I had discussion town meeting and in particular, um might want to if we might take a moment or two. There was actually
two other financial warrant items on the warrant that we need to look at. So, uh, there's a copy of it in front of you. Um, and Robert, would you like to discuss those while we take a look at them?
>> Yeah. >> Yes. >> Getting through this. >> Yeah. >> It can be slightly confusing to say support reducing the affordability of two or three units. Mhm. Well, I I'll come the explanatory notes you from the committee. >> If you keep if you keep reading it makes
more sense, but reducing affordability just sounds confusing. >> Okay. Um, so I passed out a a a last minute memo as Kurt mentioned to the fincom. In addition to the senior center which the committee took up at your uh
meeting on September 10th, there are two other articles um from the community preservation fund and through the chair. I know that Janet Prodakis, the chair of the CPC is on for Zoom and so the finance committee um in your role of
reviewing and making recommendations wanted we wanted to discuss these uh two articles. The reason the number is blank is the board is going to approve on the article number the board will approve the warrant on Tuesday and we'll we'll put the appropriate number in. So the
the first um article is uh community preservation fund for the Devon Crest affordable housing support and the uh fin uh the CPC uh is recommending um $400,000
uh towards this project which constitutes um if you will sort of the local match uh a public hearing. It went through the whole process. You can find all of the documents on the CPC web page. There was a public hearing on
September the 17th. If you flip over the page um I on the financial summary of the articles. So the 400,000 uh in would come out of the budget reserve category which as of August 25th
there's over 1.2 million uh in that category. And then the the total project, it's a $40 million project up at Devon's Crest. Uh and the the cost share is as follows. There is a state grant for 10.8 million that they
actually received uh a week or two ago from the state. There is a private investor group and there going to be a presentation on this at town meeting as well. There's a private investor group, it's called shocket that they have partnered with that is 14 million. Then
there's the issue of the private debt or the amortization of the debt about 15 million. The air affordable housing trust voted on September 10th to recommend 170,000. And then what is
going to be before the voters on October 27th is this article um looking for 400,000. And so you can see the total it comes over just over the 40 million. The 40 million um is the estimated um uh
cost on it. So again um I don't know if there are any uh uh questions from the finance committee on the financial and the uh balance the budget reserve uh category
is pretty healthy at 1 point just over 1.2 2 million >> question um >> so I think it was what you were reading Andrew um support reducing the
affordability of two to three units >> from the 80% to 60%. So, this is going to cover like two or three living units or does it mean two to three bedroom units?
>> So, through the chair um Janet has Janet is the expert. >> No, no. So, Janet. >> Yes. Um >> Yeah. >> Um can can I speak now or? >> Yes. Yes. Yes, please. >> Okay. All right, Kurt. Thank you very
much. Um, yes. Um, it is going to be a unit. It's not a bedroom. It is a one apartment. So, whatever those apartments would be depends upon if it's a two or threebedroom. Um, that's why it's two to three units because it all depends upon
which one that they're going to be able to um go ahead and it's really a buy down. So I can see I think it was Andrew who made the you know uh support reducing the affordability. Um really what it should say is to support the buy
down of two to three 80% AMI units to a 60% AMI thus helping lower income families with their monthly rental costs. That's pretty much I think that sounds better. >> All right, we can clarify. We'll we'll
clean that up. I agree >> because that's what we're doing is we're putting money aside to buy down those 80% AMI unit down to 60%. And uh they did the calculation and they
think that the whatever we're giving it's going to be in total between community preservation committee as well as the affordable housing trust $570,000. and they did the calculation goes out
for about 30 years and then it will revert back to an 80% affordable unit if that makes sense. >> Yes, it does. Thank you very much. >> Okay, thank you for the opportunity. >> Um, I do have a question. Uh, I don't
know if Robert or Janet. So, the this overall project on Devon's Crest uh I did sit in on one of the meetings a couple months ago on this one. the uh yton made the presentation. This has been creating
again I don't know how to term this the affordable housing project. This has been approved by the air affordable housing trust and >> yes so so the air affordable housing
trust um had had a series of meetings uh with them as well. Um Alicia Hersy, our housing uh program specialist, staffs the the trust and they held a public hearing as well on that and at at the
end of that process um they uh voted a recommendation for 170,000 uh towards it from the affordable housing trust. Um so that's a separate that's not obviously an omnibus budget type of thing. And all
of this, we should add, um, all of it is contingent on, they have not closed on the property yet. I believe Janet can correct me, but all of this is contingent on um them acquiring the property. If they don't acquire the
property from the owner, the town, and there are a bunch of other contingencies that the town does not just transfer the money upon approval. >> Right. Right. But that's what I thought. So, so the overall intent of this
project as member looking is to finally take Andrew, Eric, Bob, have you heard anything about this project? >> Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah. But yeah, they simply Yeah, this is But I mean, but
this current iteration >> to get >> and I think the final thing, Mr. chair and to mention so and Janet would have the exact specifics but as the fincom knows every comm every municipality in
the commonwealth has to reach a certain percentage benchmark of affordable units and I know that the housing tr affordable housing committee the affordable housing trust CPC the select board the town I think as a whole is
making great steps towards achieving that um benchmark so this this would count these two units or two or three units would count you know towards that effort. Um Janet through the chair do you know what what the exact benchmark
is and where we're at? Not to put you on the spot. >> No, that's okay. Um thank you very much. Um because I I was going to add a couple other things too if possible. Um we're if we go ahead there there are in total
114 units that will be considered affordable. They will have an affordability covenant over them keeping them at the 80% AMI. All right. So with that that will give us closer to 9.5
you know percent um towards the um subsidized housing inventory. Uh because even though not all you know the units are um um low low income like the 60% uh they'll all be counted as part of the
inventory and that like I say gets us closer to about a 9.5 where we're at now about a little over seven about 7%. So um it's going to be you know it's going to it's going to help out tremendously. The other two
things that I'd like to mention if possible um Mr. Chair >> I thank you. >> Okay. Um is that um there they also are going to have 35 mass state voucher program um vouchers.
They're sort of like Massachusetts se section 8 but they're projectbased which means they stay with those 35 units. from my conversations with um Secretary Augustus, um he he really says that good news is going to be coming that they'll
get those 35, but just like if they can't buy the property, if they don't get those 35, again, this may not go through and the monies, you know, won't be expended. They're still going to be held up as Robert, you know, stated with those
contingencies. They got to buy the property and they got to get the vouchers. The other item that I want to bring up is doing this of buying down these units and getting the affordability covenant that now protects
Devon's Crest. Remember Devon's Crest got sold as a private sale. There was nothing that the town could do to step in because it was private. Now, if they do go through, buy the property or Devon's Crest Tenants Association and shock it, you know, become the manager
owners and and such, it now is protected underneath an affordability covenant. So, we can have more leverage with the state of, you know, you can't you can't play with that now. Does that make sense?
>> Yes. I I I uh appreciate the more information. Any other questions from the committee? >> Janet, question for you. The is the 35 voucher uh units are considered part of
the affordable um percentage of units. Correct. >> Correct. >> They're not outside of the affordability. >> No, the the 35 are part of the 114. So right now 79 of them are at the 80%
mark. Okay. The 35 will be lower and that will be a 30% of your income that will be paying for your um you know for the rent. >> Okay. And the 60% affordability those are there's what three of those? Four of those. I'm sorry. Three of those
three. >> Yeah. It's going to be two or three because of CPC funds and one or two because of the um the affordable housing trust. So, we're hoping for between four and five.
>> Thank you. >> Okay, no problem. >> Um, any other questions on this particular article at this point? >> Okay, then um just >> um look at the next article on the generators. Yep. So then the the
addition the next article uh looks to um have town meeting authorize $250,000 uh for the uh purchase and installation of two separate generators for buildings B and C at the Air Housing Authority uh
which is located at 18 uh Pawn Street uh Senior Housing. Um, and you will see there is a typo. My error in the explanatory note that should say 250, not 230. That's a a typo on my part. Um,
again, went through the community preservation application process. All of the materials including the application are on their web page. A public hearing was just held uh last night on October 1st. And um this is the total cost of of
the project. Uh so there isn't a a funding breakdown or shared funding. Um in the past CPC has uh supported uh generator in the past um specifically the generator for this building uh many
moons ago. But that that is the the the request. >> So um I have one quick question. happening been at the 18 pond there is one generator there but so now as I'm read understanding that's
for building A I'm guessing okay so the other two yeah the other two buildings don't have generators right >> correct >> gotcha okay so these are going to so then all three buildings will now have >> generators in case national grid decides to uh
>> or storm formality, right? >> Cannot editorialize and that funding will also come out of that 1.2 million that I mentioned the budget reserve category designated. >> Yeah. That Yeah. Yeah. And so if both
articles pass town meeting out of that one point actually 1,214,000 uh 650,000 total of both projects would would come out. Okay. Uh any other questions or
discussion on this article >> currently? No. And as I mentioned, there'll be a brief there'll be brief present there'll be presentations on on both of these projects at town meeting. Okay.
Uh so what I would like to do then we as committee is that if we can go back and u so we'll need to do the motion and second um for uh look at both of these articles to uh recommend not recommend
etc. Um, so on well the articles aren't numbered yet. So the article on the community preservation fund Devon's Crest affordable housing support >> question of procedure. Do we need to Were we supposed to
>> make a motion to open discussion or do we are we just voting? I'm again first time kind of go going through all this. I'm just not sure. Well, no, that's what I was I was um we we've just looked at both articles, discussed them questions on that.
>> So, yeah. So, now I'm throwing throwing it out to So, the next step then we would we'll need to vote on these two articles. So, uh with uh we'll need someone to make a motion. Uh we'll second and then we'll take a vote on each uh so we'll do one article at a
time. You can still discuss. >> Good point. >> Right. Yeah. >> Motion. Is there any discussion? And then you vote on discussion. >> Okay. >> I will make a motion to I guess we'll just say the group support first article
about the article blank of community preservation fund democrress affordable housing support. >> Second. >> Okay. So um any discussion? >> Um
so all those uh in favor to recommend >> I I >> So we have four votes to recommend for the article on community preservation fund Evans Crest affordable housing
support. Um then the u next article is the community preservation fund air housing authority request for generators at 18 pond street. I'll make a motion for article blank
number two community preservation fund air housing authority request for generators at 18 Palm Street for $250,000. >> Second. >> Any discussion? Okay, hearing none. Um, all those in
favor of uh recommending the community preservation fund air housing request regenerator at 18 pond street as motion and seconded. >> I >> I to abstain. Okay. >> All right.
So we have on this article community preservation fund air housing authority request for generators 18 Pond Street uh for the sum of 250,000 three to recommend and one to abstain or
no position. Okay. Thank you very much. >> Thank you as well. >> Great. Thank you Janice for >> Thank you Janice sharing the information >> and thank you to the committee.
>> Okay. Um see we have one other item for the town meeting on October 27th. Um so
as you you've received emails I believe um then the meeting the town meeting and I am going to ask Robert to make sure I've got this correct will be on Monday October 27th at 700 p.m. at the air high
school. >> Yep. >> Correct. Correct. Um and the items discussed will be senior center of these two articles and I believe there's some role >> nonfinancial. >> Yeah, there are four small zoning bylaw
amendments that are largely clean up and yeah and there are three easements um one for the habitat house to connect to power. They need to put a pole on the back of town property. So there's an
easement. There's an easement for the new clear well for Grove Pond for the treat the PA bass. There's an easement needed for National Grid. That's at 99 Baron Road for another uh for the underground connection >> that's on Townland.
>> Yeah. And then the third one is Katana Spagna Corporation on Zero Nemco Way. Um there's a a ease a small easement of townland um that they are requesting as
well. So there's those three articles they once the warrant is posted on the warrant page will have the the diagrams you can see where everything is. So, it's the four zoning, the three
um easements, the two CPA articles, and the senior center 10 articles total. Very good. And then just um so if the senior center proposal is
passed by a twothird majority then it will then go to a town vote on Octo November November >> so Tuesday November 4th >> and the polls will be the voting will be
here the polls will be open from noon to 8:00 p.m. um on Tuesday, November 4th. And it has to that has to be a simple majority. But then just u as I found out
reading is that if the uh senior center article is not approved by twothirds >> at the town meeting, then there will be no vote held on November 4th. >> Correct. Is he orction?
>> There be no election. Yes. >> Um >> I have a question. So, um, in the world of planning board, if something is denied by the planning
board, there's a two-year um, moratorum on your ability to go back and have it reapproved. Is that the case with this uh, senior center, the two3? >> That's a good question, Bob. So what you're speaking to all um planning board
sites that you're speaking of in zoning board um zoning bylaws if they are defeated uh there is a two two-year period before you can come back that is not applicable to this type of an
article. Um, so it could come it would it could come back and it wouldn't have to wait the two years. But you're correct. Zoning bylaw and site um planning board site plan. Um
like I did mentioned that the moderator sent out a email to all of us. Did everyone see that? >> Yeah. ask us to so as usual we do come to the >> I will be there >> okay
um one thing I was going to throw out because I was just thinking I overthinking it as I usually do um is all five of us have to be up there um and so I
>> I'll poke my neck on I'll sit up there >> well what I What I thought would be a happy balance is because I know we have is chair and vice chair we'll we'll take
>> and secretary >> clerk >> clerk >> I I apologize >> but >> blind by me >> I throw it out for I always just I'll be there. If there's a chair for
me, great. If not, I'll I'll sit with the >> Well, no, that's what I'm throwing out now. I was just Do you want You have just chair, vice chair, clerk. We did last time. >> I'm glad to sit in the crowd. [Laughter]
>> Okay. Yeah. No, I just thought because this is just again that overall this has just been such a quick process and >> kind of meeting quick. Well, yeah, that was that was part of my
thinking, too, is that um we just wanted we just want to be there. And one thing I have to say is that this committee has done a great job of diving deep into this
uh question and I think uh said a really good job on that and the information that's going to be presented to the town is good. So I think we've done a good job there. I assume people are going to have questions for the committee.
>> They can do that, right? >> Yes. Yes, they can. >> Yes. So through the chair, so what's in what's anticipated and was the board will the blackboard on on Tuesday will confirm this, but I I anticipate that
the plan will be obviously the item of the evening, not that the others aren't important. is the senior uh center article. So my anticipation is they'll take up all the other stuff first and the reason being is because it's
relatively very straightforward and that doesn't mean there wouldn't be questions or what have you reserving the balance of you know the time and and for the presentation and and so forth you know for the senior
center article. So then when it gets to that article, obviously it'd be moved and seconded, the plan is to have a a similar presentation model that was used for FingCom and for capital, you know, the project then the finance and the
funding plan and then um the moderator will open it up for discussion and that's why he gets the big bucks to run the meeting. And to to your point, I mean um the FINCOM has uh every right to
to speak. Of course, you have an interesting position split on it. So, I'm I anticipate you'll probably get um questions um on that. You may not. And then, you know, there'll be the
discussion and and so forth. And then at at at some point um there'll be uh a vote and the key thing is um it does have to pass by twothirds of of the attendees.
>> Do just as a out of curiosity, >> do you have to start with just like a a no card oral vote or can you just like proceed to We're just going to go with the cards because we think it's probably going to be
So um so a couple so the again not to speak you know for the moderator depending how it it it plays out just like tonight. So the the article will have been moved and seconded to get it on the table for discussion
at some point um when it comes to a vote. So there's a couple of things. One is um if somebody a motion could be made this hasn't happened in some time but it it has happened. There could be a motion
made and seconded for a secret ballot. So if there's a motion made and second for a secret ballot so people vote with the cards in these boxes. So it's not um moved and seconded. Is there any
discussion on the secret ballot? If there's discussion and then if that motion passes by a simple majority, they'll do a secret ballot um vote. It's been a long I'm trying to think when I first came here there was somebody. So there could be a secret ballot vote. If
not, like you've seen on all the other articles, they'll call the vote and then my guess is that the moderator will count it. I mean that he has the right to call count or somebody can make a motion count the vote and then they
would count you know the cards. So those are the those are the I guess you could say the the two options. >> Just curious because it's a twothird and you know it's >> hard to >> Yes. I was wondering if they would just like skip it, but just
>> and if they >> right if they do that when the the secret ballot um just need everybody's uh patience, but they'll count it all out. You know, the moderator will have counters and so >> so what as I was thinking this through
uh what I was anticipating as we've done in past, we will be there for questions. I have there to be presented to be asked. >> So, is everybody okay with not being on
stage? Not being on stage? >> Like I said, I'm fine. If there's a chair up there for me, I'll sit. If not, I'll be down. >> And I know Robert. >> Oh, I'm glad to sit in the crowd. >> Oh, okay. Yeah, that's what I would say. In years past, you and Jen have felt
more comfortable sitting in the uh in the crowd. Okay. >> Okay. Yeah. No, it's uh so that'll be our plan then already there. And u again I think we've
got a lot of good information to share. People ask questions. >> I was just going to Given the fact that we did have different votes on the committee, would Robert, would you recommend if some if someone in the
in the audience, you know, residents like I would like to hear from the uh finance committee? >> Would you recommend having Kirk just speak for the discussion we had and and and everything
or would you recommend someone who voted each way saying something. >> So >> would Jyn have to stand up there and say I voted to abstain because something something like would she have to get up there? Like could they make her?
>> No. So discretion. >> Yeah. So yeah. So through the chair and this is just advice cuz you guys are independent. I'm not trying to So couple things. So one is they could ask what was the position of the fincom
which in this case it's split or it's not you know unanimous. So one option and I'm not advocating any one is that the chair um could state the facts and what I mean by that is we met on such and such a date we received full you
know presentation you know this is what was presented when you took the vote um this was what the vote was sort of the facts >> um another option would be um is that
since there is A it's it's not a unanimous vote if you will. Another option is and it just happened to be this way. I'm just saying the chair voted in the affirmative. So that again the chair could give the facts. I think that's important. You know, just right.
And I'm not I'm just putting it out there. Kirk could speak to the affirmative. Andrew could speak to the uh >> not recommend >> not recommend.
>> Um but anybody any of you recognized the key recognized moderator can speak. >> So yeah they're not I'm sorry Mr. But just so everybody knows that nobody can compel
you guys to do anything. But my guess is if they ask it's how you how you decide to to handle it. >> Well, that was that was part of my thought process is that it were questions were were put to us. I would
as chair would say we we had meetings, we took a vote and this is what we recommended to the select board and town meeting. Um then if question further questions were asked
I was I was sort of thinking along your line that um I would defer to folks if you voted not to sever some of your members voted to not recommend can you explain more of that and actually that's where I would my thought would be
to defer to you not defer but then have you talk on that >> submit to the vice chair >> pardon >> submit the vice chair So, um, sure. And then I would take any other
questions, you know, as far as recommend and stuff. So, that's that was sort of my again, this is good. have this discussion because I'm just like um so that was my idea of just having I and um
what's your name? >> Andrew. Andrew on the stage so that we don't suddenly if like we had all five of us on stage people could be peppering each of us with questions >> and I singing it would just be I and
Eric is get his chair >> I my god >> he's looking at you >> you should see me when all the grandkids were here >> and just one other thing to keep in
mind. It's just a suggestion. Doesn't happen that often, but >> so when you're on the on the stage on the stage or what have you, you you're speaking within the scope of of the fing's position, which obviously in this
case it it's it's not a unanimous position, but also what people have done too if you feel that and you have every right to do this. that you also want to speak as a resident, you know, outside of the scope of the, you know, what wasn't discussed at the meeting, your
own, you know, personal, you know, feelings and and so forth as a resident. Then you can usually people just go down, you know, to the microphone and and say that. I've seen it doesn't happen that often. I've seen FinCom members do that in the past. I've
seen select board members, you know, come down floor and say, you know, Roger Smith, member of the air select board, but I'm speaking from the floor as a resident. Just, you know, >> yes, >> you both did that last time,
>> I think. Yeah, I think. Yeah. Yeah. >> Or the last big town. >> Forget what it was. I I got down and asked a question um to Danny about one of those
>> or conversely I'm just saying if Bob is down in the audience and wants to say something as a member of the Vingcom rather than have to come up to the stage just go to the microphone Bob France your address and I'm speaking as a member of the fincom you know it just
gives it that delineation >> so however you want to do it if If you would rather it just be the two of you up there for simplicity slash whatever. >> That's what I'm just is that >> see where the the thought process
started with me when as I saw the five emails >> Eric voted off the island. >> What what five emails? >> Oh, we each got an email that to be with a personal invitation to the town meeting from the moderator a couple
weeks ago. Right. >> Come sit with me. But you have to fill in, >> right? Yeah. And that's that's Oh, okay. So, maybe I should step That's what's that's what's been informing this whole this thought process here. I was like, well, we were planning on showing up
anyway. So, um, so I was just, well, does that mean you want us all five up there? I said, so that's that's what's been driving my thought process here. And
then um then Andrew and Eric and then the question is when people start asking questions um are we going to meet again? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. October 16.
>> Pardon? >> Think about it and then talk about >> Yeah. I mean Yeah. >> I'm happy just you and me. That's fine. >> Yeah. >> And you know what? And I also I mean I I assume the the questions you feel the questions unless you need someone to help you right because like
the official committee stance right is no >> correct >> but if people want to ask questions they can't not not that to your point what do you actually have to answer >> right there just there's no mechanism to compel the
>> do anything I don't say that to be flipped but >> no I know just it's some of it is complicated, right? Because part of it you want to be like, well, let me pull up my PowerPoint presentation I don't have to explain >> my reason why, right? It could be more straightforward to be like, well,
>> here are the facts, the conclusion we came to, >> yeah, >> that's all we're going to say if you weren't at the meeting, right, than >> Yeah. Well, that's you that's that's part of it, too, is that you I don't want us to get drawn into this
huge back and forth. >> We've had two good two meetings. Um >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Well discussed. We've let and um the uh you know this is our position. the position was, you know, to not
recommend. Um, >> I'm happy to think about it and talk about it again next week or two. >> Yeah, that's again I think overthinking it and stuff. So, and again, I'm I'm just trying to anticipate stuff, but you want to feel prepared.
>> Well, yeah, that's it. But again, just as I started this discussion, we honestly I think we've done a good job. Hope you all feel that way too. I think
the town people can feel boy the information we are getting is a lot and I don't think we've maybe one or two stones on the beach that we haven't figured out that to turn
over yet but pretty much >> we'll get some more this year. >> All right. Well, yeah. Good. Yeah. Very good. Um, all right. So, we'll pick that up, but essentially we will be at the
meeting and uh we'll be on be available. Keep it simple. Um, >> yes. Do we have any public input? I see none in the >> only Janet is the only person on the screen, Mr. Chair.
>> I'm good. >> And Barry is good. So, Yeah, Barry's good. Yeah. >> All right. Um, so our next meeting would be Thursday, October 16th at 6 p.m.
>> Same with me town hall. >> Same bad time, same bat channel. >> Having nothing else like to make a motion to adjourn. >> I'll second it. >> All those in favor? I >> I
652. >> Oh, >> thank you. Uh, we are journinging the meeting as of 6:52