heat heat [Music] [Music] i would like to advise All those present that notice of this regular meeting of March 19th 2025 has been provided to the
public in accordance with the provisions of the open public meeting act of the state of New Jersey notice of time and place of this meeting has been included in the annual notice of meetings which was posted and filed with the city clerk and with the Jersey Journal and the Star Ledger an additional notice of time and
place was posted and filed with the city clerk and was forwarded to the Bergen record and star ledger on March 14th 2025 the regular meeting of the municipal council of the city of Bayon is now in session miss Medina please call the role mr booker here mr carol
here mr perez here missur here mr lapalooa here please rise for the pledge of allegiance i aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and
justice for all uh every once in a while uh we have uh some people who do very heroic things and we like to honor them for their heroic actions and so the uh VFW Joyce Herbert
VFW has an an award citation and the city council as well has an award citation for Mr daniel Harrington who's in the audience with us and I'd like to read the summary of the VFW uh award
daniel J harrington Jr of the city of Bayon County of Hudson displayed tremendous courage and heroism in September 2021 when he jumped into treacherous waters on a laval beach to rescue a 40-year-old woman caught in rip tides and
undertoes without regard for his own life Harrington swam through dangerous waters and saved the woman from drowning when Harrington and the woman were in danger of being separated he remained calm as he held on to the woman dan was able to hand over the woman to the
rescue teams and get rescued himself the rescue team brought Dan and the woman safely to the shore it is indeed an honor to congratulate Daniel J harrington Jr for his tremendous courage and valor and given this day the 19th
day of March 2025 it's signed by uh the commander Glenn Flora and agitant Jason Arnett we as well on the city council want to commend you and uh we give commendations and praise from the citizens of Bayon and uh Mr harrington a
lot of us know you as a business owner in town and uh we think it's a great thing that you did and uh you put your own life at risk and um I I can't think of a more heroic thing to do so we want to say thank you from the city of Bayon
as well so did you want to add or Okay so at this time we just like to maybe take a picture of presenting you with this and then we'll get Oh Mr booker go ahead all right first thing real quick I want to say congratulations to Danny uh as Gary
said um uh I just want to say again congratulations uh he knows you as a business owner i go a little deeper than that i'm not ashamed to say that that you and I go way way back back in school days and I know you i would expect
nothing less from you uh you were an outstanding guy back then uh you would do anything for anybody i know that and our friendship has lasted all these years and and I mean I have so much respect for you and it's welld deserved and I just want to say congratulations to you and your family thank you very
much Dan i do not know you for many many years as I'm not nearly as old as Mr booker um I was waiting for that i was waiting for that yeah or good-looking but I do know of you and and certainly I
know you to be um a wonderful very fair businessman very well respected and I just simply want to thank you for your actions and thank you for renewing my faith that there still are good people that are willing um to go above and beyond for someone else so thank you
again Mr harrington i I think I've known you and your family all of my 34 years on Tras Avenue as the Harringtons up the block and your especially your father Yubby
and how kind he was to me all the time i think my first dog was his because Shelly he'd walk her by the house every day and let me play with her and and I just I think when I think of you and your family it's you should be honored every day not just for this heroic act
but because you're all good and decent people and God bless you because you really've got a heart of gold every one of you so thank you very much for your heroic work thank you Mr harrington my name is Juan Perez and I want to congratulate you on such a
tremendous task of saving someone's life it's very difficult you have to think am I going to make it or not but you did make it and you did put there put your heart into it and you did it god gave you the strength and you did it i'm not as old as Lloyd Booker i know that
that's why I don't know you i was a young kid then so I would like I would uh wish everybody would stop flattering me with all these comments thank you very much so congratulations as much space as we have
you should too many buddy buddy okay I'm going to do one okay one two three
[Applause] [Music] congratulations congratulations yeah got it maline ready can we do 01 one is a bond ordinance providing for the lead service
line replacement project in and by the city of Bon in the county of Hudson New Jersey appropriating $13 million therefore and authorizing the issuance of 13 $13 million bond or notes for the city to finance a course thereof it was introduced at and passed the first
reading at the meeting held February 19th was published in the Jersey Journal and posted on the bulletin board as required by law with notice that it would be further considered for final passage following a public hearing at this meeting of March 19th is now before the council for its consideration and a public hearing and the resolution moved
by the council as a whole given the ordinance second reading and on the resolution Mr booker I Mr carol I Mr perez I miss I Mr lapaloosa i second reading is by title a bond ordinance providing for the lead
service line replacement project in and by the city of Bon in the county of Hudson New Jersey appropriating $13 million therefore and authorizing the issuance of $13 million bonds or notes of the city to finance the cost thereof the council is now ready to give
all persons interested in this ordinance an opportunity to be heard concerning it the council president will recognize anyone who wishes to speak no protest against objections to or statements in favor of this ordinance or its passage has been filed with me may I have a motion move it as a whole can we
keep it as a whole close as a whole i think we're we all and on the resolution to close the meeting motion to close mr booker i Mr carol hi mr perez hi miss Beamer hi mr lapaloosa i and a
resolution ordering final passage moved by a whole yes and on that resolution Mr booker hi mr carol hi mr perez hi miss Beamer hi mr laapalooa uh this is very important to our city it removes the uh
lead lines which are uh a hazard to people's drinking water uh it modernizes the town and uh it tries to help people who would have ordinarily had a major cost to dig this up and to replace these
lead lines with copper and so I've had a lot of interest in this uh phone calls wondering when this was going to start and I'm very happy to see this come to fruition today and with that I vote I
o2 is an ordinance of the city of Bayon County of Hudson New Jersey adopting the redevelopment plan for the property located at 28-34 East 22nd Street which is identified as block 212 lots 30,31 and 32 as shown in the official on the official tax map of the city pursuing to
the local redevelopment and housing law it was introduced and passed the first reading at the meeting held February 19th was published it actually not published in the Jersey Journal it's published in the Star Ledger and posted on the bulletin board as required by law with notice that it would be further considered for final
passage following a public hearing at this meeting of March 19th is now before the council for its consideration and a public hearing and resolution moved by council member Perez given the ordinance second reading miss Weamer will you second
second on the resolution mr booker hi mr carroll hi mr perez hi miss Reamer i Mr lapaloosa i second reading is by title an ordinance of the city of Bayon County of Hudson New Jersey adopting the redevelopment plan for the property
located at 28-34 East 22nd Street which is identified as block 212 lots 30 31 and 32 as shown on the official tax map of the city pursuant to the local redevelopment and housing law the council is now ready to give all persons interested in this ordinance an opportunity to be heard concerning it
the council president will recognize anyone who wishes to speak no protest against objections to or statements in favor of this ordinance or its passage has been filed with me may I have a motion to close on a motion to close Mr booker hi Mr
carol hi Mr perez hi Miss Weame i Mr lalooa i and a resolution ordering final pass move it second and on that resolution Mr booker hi Mr carol hi Mr perez hi Miss Weamer hi Mr
lapaloosa i 03 we're carrying three i still have to read it in and then we'll Okay sure 03 is an ordinance of the city of Bayon County of Hudson New Jersey adopting the redevelopment plan 415 Agnes Street
which is identified as block 232 lot 10 as shown on the official tax map of the city pursuant to the local redevelopment and housing law which was introduced and passed the first reading at the meeting held February 19th was published in the Jersey Journal and posted on the bulletin boards required by law and
again it was not the Jersey Journal have to change all of that uh with notice that it would be further considered for final passage follow following a meeting at this meeting of March 19th and is now before the council for its consideration and a public hearing and there is a motion to postpone this second reading
and a public hearing to the meeting of April 16th who'd like to move it i'll move it second and on the resolution to postpone Mr booker hi Mr carol hi Mr
perez i Miss Beamer i Mr lapaloosa i 04 is an ordinance of the city of Bayon County of Hudson New Jersey approving the financial agreement buying between the city of Bayon and 111 Avenue F Partners Urban Renewal LLC for the property located
107-11 Avenue F which is identified as block 456 lot 7 8.01 8.02 8.03 9 and 10 as shown on the official tax map of the city which was introduced and passed the first reading at the meeting held February 19th was published in the Star
Ledger and posted on the bulletin boards required by law with notice that it would be further considered for final passage following a public hearing at this meeting of March 19th is now before the council for its consideration and a public hearing and the resolution moved by the council president giving the ordinance second reading mr perez will
you second second on the resolution Mr booker hi mr carol hi mr perez hi miss Reamer I Mr lapalooa I second reading is by title an ordinance of the city of Bayon County of Hudson New Jersey approving
the financial agreement buying between the city of Bayon and 111 Avenue F partners urban renewal LLC for the property located at 107-11 Avenue F which is identified as block 456 block 7 8.01 8.02 8.03 3 9 and
10 and the council is now ready to give all persons interested in this ordinance an opportunity to be heard concerning it council president will recognize anyone who wishes to speak miss Nowski in the back sharon Nowski 126 Avenue again not
what I'm here for but since I'm here and we're giving away free money again um how many years is the pilot that you're going this pilot is 25 years 25 another 25 year i thought we were I thought we were way below that by now and again I'm just going to
reiterate um 20 um 22 we had a big news article Gary you were quoted in there saying that it was 90 95% occupancy in all these buildings
if that is true there's no need to give pilots for incentives incentives are meant to offset risk of not being able to rent at market value and get back you guys have testified in to me every time I'm here that we're at full capacity
everywhere so I'm not sure why the taxpayers are not are still paying their fair share going up every year and we're given pilots they're meant as a site when I sat up there I gave them for incentive we were not at 95% occupancy never sat there and claimed it but if
you guys are saying we're at 95 occupancy 95% occupancy in all these new buildings I don't understand the need for it there is a you know if then but test it doesn't fit based on your own you know statements up there and that'll
be the same question I'm going to ask for the next four so when you read it could you just tell me how many years they are so I don't have to come up and um Well but you also know about financing because you sat up here and voted i voted no for 60 of these until we started getting community asks okay
this particular property will not get built without the pilot and there's substantial buildup that's needed there because of the flood plane rules that changed understood again so again you asked the reason I'm giving you the reason and
that's the reason why these people need this pilot to get that area done i understand and and the risk is finance and risk again we needed to do that at a time when the city was uh no one was developing here it was a test market so we did it when you were voting no that's
actually when they needed to be incentivized because the the market hadn't been tested but by your own testimony the market is the market is is fully supporting itself so it doesn't need residents tax dollars to subsidize
it thank you you're welcome but that's debatable whether it's fully subsidizing itself so uh Council President just to kind of address a couple issues too of also with this pilot we do have Dan Banker from NW Financial who's reviewed this uh but I think a couple things too of also again the change of the market
you did also say that the new flood plane rules which this property would be subject to they have to uh you know build 30 ft you know to accommodate the the parking requirement on site uh to keep the residential uh apartments out of the flood plane you know that's an additional cost uh to accommodate to the
new rules that you know is very tough to monetize uh the other thing too is also I think what you know differs uh with these markets now than uh couple years ago is again higher interest rates and you know higher construction costs uh there too to help satisfy that butt for test um the other thing too is also just
even on uh the pilots you know look I could tell the council you know and the public that the city will always get more money you know for pilots you know for the length you know the longer time it is based on the 95% share uh that the uh city gets with the 5% we put it into
the agreements you know for to help the board of education there but like I said the you know that's the you know the terms for it so I mean if Dan Banker wants to you know discuss the terms you know he's here uh for uh to evaluate what NW was looking at okay since he
since he Everybody gets a chance to speak if you want well he was answering me i would like to ask but if you want to speak on the next one I'll let you speak on the next one but he answered what you said and so then I don't get to He made a comment i'd like to comment get a rebuttal but you definitely can speak on
the next one uh do do you want to hear from Mr banker or do you want to hear we could we can hear from Sure here or there it doesn't matter good evening everyone my name is Daniel Banker i work with NW Financial Group um
first first thing I'll say is whenever we take a look at a proposed redevelopment project uh we review the pilot application and the proforma and financials that are included in that application and we review it for uh accuracy as it relates to the current
market that it relates to total project cost estimates rent uh projections operating expense projections cap rates interest rates lease up so we don't just take the numbers that are included in the proforma and use them if we feel
adjustments are necessary we make those adjustments um as it relates to the but for test before we consider a pilot of any kind we take a look at the financials under a conventional tax scenario um and we look at several different metrics of return for the
developer one is the net project cost that is how much is the project worth at stabilization once the building is fully occupied versus how much it costs um the next metric is yield on cost that uh is the total net operating income of the
building at stabilization divided by the total project cost and lastly we look at internal rate of return which accounts for the amount of equity in a project and assumes a 10-year sale and what the average rate of return over that 10-year period is all of these items have
typical market expectations um and under the conventional tax scenario you have a project that has a negative value of 5.8 million you have an IRRa of basically zero and you have a yield on cost of
about 4% market returns are somewhere between 8 and 12% on IRRa right now and yield on cost somewhere around six uh so if we take a look at the pilot uh and again it is a 25-year pilot uh for the first 15 years it's 10% of gross revenue
for the final 10 years it's 11% um and under the pilot as proposed the returns are still below what is considered you know market returns uh the IRRa is 6% the yield on cost is about five and a half uh and another
important factor and metric to look at outside of developer returns is the debt service coverage ratio that is a metric that banks and lenders look at to confirm if a project is going to be able to pay back the loan that was provided
by that lender uh lenders right now are not willing to lend at below a 1.2 coverage ratio meaning the cash flow of the project needs to be 120% of what they owe on that loan uh under conventional taxes it would be
0.95 meaning that the project doesn't even generate enough money to pay back the loan in in its entirety um but under the pilot the debt service coverage ratio would be 1.24 so it would be likely that this project would receive the necessary
funding uh to proceed with the project uh and just as a another addition as part of the terms of the financial agreement in addition to the percentages of gross revenue there is a mandatory phase in of conventional taxes um that's part of the statute that
increases throughout the term from zero% of conventional taxes 20 40 60 80 um in the best case scenario for the developer there would only be one year of 80 in the final year and two years of 60 uh in this case at the back end we're
including years 20 through 22 at 60% and years 23 to 25 at 80 so it is a bit of a bonus at the back end because again uh under the pilot the city share is 95% as compared to conventional taxes the city
share is about 45% uh and right now the site is generating uh $25,000 uh as compared to the projected pilot at stabilization of about $183,000 so So Dan do you mind if I
interrupt i apologize i'm Jacqueline Weamer and I actually oversee that area where that property is so talk to me in layman's terms so right now we're getting $25,000 a year in taxes for that undeveloped property that is in and I am
not ashamed in the lease to say in somewhat of a depressed area because I live in that area um so right now we're getting $25,000 a year in taxes correct upon development in year one with the pilot tell me how much of those of the
tax dollars will come to the city out of $183,000 in a proposed assessment uh so the gross pilot 188,000 95% of that will go to the city which is that 183 number
so year one uh year one will be during lease up right so uh we're assuming that it will be about 50% occupied in year one uh so the gross pilot would be 115,000 and the city share would be
111,000 and that would be the city share that would be the city share correct 111,000 up from the current 25,000 right so an additional $86,000 the math I could do so but but the other thing too Dan just confirm to again
under the 25,000 is the total taxes paid so that's including the the county uh share uh open space school board that's my next question thank you Mr skiler so so and out of that 25,000 the city keeps approximately and Joe please correct me
is it 40% 40 45% 45% so out of that let's call it even if you're just 11,000 right okay so out of that 25,000 right now 11,000 is being attributed directly to the
municipality to assist our residents in year one I can count on with the pilot I can count on 111 or 115,000 correct the only uh exception is if it
leases up quicker or slower that number will change because it is truly based on the number of units that are rented and the revenue income generate right but one one can assume that the developer certainly not going to go for any slower
correct um and any quicker would just be a greater amount coming back to the city correct okay all right thank you i appreciate that no problem do you have a question anyone else no protest against objections to or
statements in favor of this ordinance or its passage has been filed with me may I have a motion move second motion to close mr booker hi mr carroll hi mr perez hi miss Reamer hi mr lapaloo hi and a resolution ordering final
passage move and on that resolution Mr booker hi mr carol after discussions with the especially as it relates to EPA issues in the area and the need for
Mr perez i miss Weamer um I do I certainly vote I and I do um agree with Councilman Carol in that this developer took on um quite a risk with this property um that underwent
contamination and um during Sandy and took a chance and I I do appreciate that investment in our city and I vote I Mr palooa again a financial agreement will help this project uh come about there's been some
uh environmental cleanups and different things that are needed over in this place the flood plane had to get built up and uh this would help this developer and it's going to make the the area much better and much improved so I vote I
05 is an ordinance of the city of Bayon County of Hudson New Jersey approving the financial agreement buying between the city of Bayon and 445-461 Avenue C urban renewal LLC which is identified as block 219 lot 24.01 as shown on the official
tax map of the city and was introduced and passed the first reading at the meeting held that we're in Skellander do you want to just give the financials for this before you sure can I finish first i'm sorry he was leaving Maline
at a meeting held February 19th was po published in the Star Ledger and posted on the bulletin boards required by law with notice that it would be further considered for final passage following a public hearing at this meeting of March 19th is now before the council for its consideration and a public hearing and a
resolution moved by the council president giving the ordinance second reading mr perez will you second second and on that resolution Mr booker I Mr carol Hi mr perez I Miss Weer I Mr lapaloosa I and second reading is by title an ordinance of the city of Bayon
County of Hudson New Jersey approving the financial agreement buy and between the city of Bayon and 445461 Avenue C urban renewal LLC which is identified as block 219 lot 24.01 as shown on the official tax map
of the city the council is now ready to give all persons interested in this ordinance an opportunity to be heard concerning it council president will recognize anyone who wishes to speak mr skiller you're on sure so again the the terms of um for this uh financial
agreement uh for uh 45 uh 455 461 Avenue C this is the old laundry match site um that uh burnt down so it's on the corner of uh Avenue C and uh 20th Street uh this is also again within the redevelopment agreement just to remind
the council and to the public uh that they're providing the park improvements uh to the city satisfaction for uh 440 442 Avenue C uh so again to the terms of that it is another 25-year pilot but with much better returns to the city uh
on the percentages of uh adjusted gross revenue otherwise due for the first 15 years it's at 11% and then there it bumps up for the remainder to 12% um along with that then that that's where the the bump in you know comes in of the taxes otherwise due so for the last um
four years from years 22 to 25 it's at 60% uh you know for 22 23 24 and then at 25 at 80 uh you know again you know it's not the best for uh the uh you know developer at that point the you know the city does get uh you know more money off
of that of the taxes otherwise do um if you also want to have uh Mr banker you know kind of go into some of the fundamentals too with this project yes Mr banker do that um yeah so just a quick summary of the project this is a 63 unit project across
six stories with one floor of mechanical parking um it'll have 71 parking spaces on that floor and there will also be a approximately 1,400 square foot retail space um again the same analysis as was
done on the prior uh where we re reviewed the project cost the revenue projections the operating expenses and it was determined under conventional taxes it was unlikely the project would move forward um so the pilot terms as mentioned 11% for 10 years 12% or 11%
for 15 years 12% for the final 10 uh this property currently generates uh $23,500 uh of which the city share is about $10,500 and uh in year one the gross
pilot is expected to be $147,000 of which the city share will be 142,000 and at stabilization which we assume is 95% occupied uh that pilot will jump up to $236,000 of which the city share would
be 229,000 thank you M um when you say year one year one after construction what does it pay during construction conventional taxes based on the current
assessment land assessment land only okay so and some of these buildings take how many years to build so there's a number so we say year one there's a number of years that your tax has gone down to the building's complete but more importantly than that when we
keep saying how much we're you know so u right now for this property I think you said we get um $23,000 a year and it's going to be do you want Mr banker to come no that's okay this is for you so and this this has 63 units that laundry
mat had a few apartments up in the back um I don't know how many but I don't think it's more than 10 right i don't know how many kids that put in our public school system but right now in Bayon because you keep saying we get to keep it because you know why you're keeping it all because you're not giving
any to the school the countyy's not taking their fair share you still do have to give to the library it's just a lower amount okay so understand what that means but now you're adding 63 units just in this one building we're not going to talk about the the last one that's we pay
$17,000 a year to educate a a child in Bayon 17,000 63 units you can have six You can have if you have one child per thing do the math do the math how much are you really saving because none of that tax money that you're getting all
that extra tax money our schools are busting at the seams and you know who pays it they're still the school's still going to get what they need because that's the law whatever they say they levy to us we have to pay we don't get to negotiate so it comes from somewhere
okay you're saying you're getting it that's so you can move it how you want but let's talk that we say the schools are underfunded but we're underfunding them so that could potentially just one one child per thing that's 60 another 16
63 kids at $16,000 that's what it costs today in two more years when the building's complete it'll be costing Bale more than that to educate a kid so just keep that in mind when we keep saying we're getting a lot more money because we're also not getting the money to the schools and it's also putting a
lot more potential children in our school system thank you so Director Skylinder can you explain to me so I I and that's a and those are some very relevant points yes and so at a cost of 17,000 a year are we do I understand correctly have we provided in these
pilots and the redevelopment agreements for an allocation whenever a pilot is approved that would go directly to the board of education to the school budget in written in every single agreement there is a resolution from council that 10% of the pilot payment may be
allocated to the uh board of education so that but that's the the may language on that is written into the agreement it is up to the council for the resolution to for the council to adopt it which I I believe is you know done pri in the
prior administration on that that has been a continuing practice you know for you know many years with the pilots even before me coming you know into this role here um for the school for these sizes of the apartment again the geared market
towards these you know the notion that these apartment buildings are going to generate kids I I can't say with 100% certainty that they won't however if I'm building you know one-bedroom studio apartments at you know 500 you know 650
ft² two beds at roughly you know a,000 units you can go rent you know a one unit in a two family home for less than that amount like it's not geared towards you know these buildings are geared more for young professionals these are geared
not you know to raise families in right and I understand that so all right so we do have an allocation that is going to the school board in written in the their final management agreements yes the other thing with also that too is the city and the municipal council's budget
has to cover the school board budget you know there's no way that the city cannot support the school so even if we gain more money off of that you know if we just have 95% to this the city we're still obligated to pay for the you know
the budget that the board of ed asks for in reality it's the county you know that gets hurt on these pilots understood thank you anyone else that no protest against objections to or statements in favor of this ordinance or
its passage has been filed with me may I have a motion to close second on a motion to close Mr booker hi mr carol I Mr perez hi Miss Weamer hi Mr laaloosa i and a resolution
ordering final passage move it second and on that resolution Mr booker mr carol I the four of these tonight especially represent unique and interesting challenges and I take each one as it
comes in this you know the the prior financial agreement had extenduating circumstances to it i think very important points were raised tonight by the audience and I would say I have to agree just because a room is
smaller I think you put two people in a cramped quarters you're probably going to end up with kids and so you know I I I think that doesn't make any sense and well and so I' I'd have to say I understand there were some issues that
came out of this uh pilot that are good for that neighborhood and I understand there was park issues involved and that's fantastic but as this provides nothing for the working people the the young professionals as you put I'm a young professional and I'm
getting driven out of town so I don't know what young professionals are moving in here or what jobs they've got because I'll apply tomorrow but uh this with no with no provision for workforce housing or anything like that or a provision for
parking for that neighborhood i just I can't I can't see fit to uh pass it so I vote no mr price I miss 63 units in this building mr
miselli how many onebedrooms uh we we'll get that information for you but it's approximately entertain me i would say probably half of them are are one one bedrooms and the other half are twos it's almost always a split right down the middle but we have no threes and to answer the question about the
number of school children that come out of these there have been studies done yes we have studies on these things we can't just say "Oh there definitely be kids because they're two people living together." That's ridiculous we should be basing our information and our decision-m on science and study and the studies show that particularly for urban
areas like Bayon a school the number of school children coming out of a building like this would be under five would be two maybe right it was the first time when I inquired about the studies that I heard the term transit oriented right you know residential units correct and
and they've done studies Ruters has done studies that included the whole state so those are a little bit more inflated because they're further out in the west and they don't have great access to transit uh like we do But I I think we have a 1040 Kennedy i think there's maybe one school kid that ever came out
of there and it was only temporary and that's 60 units so you know we can talk all we want about what we think but what the truth is is that not many school kids come out of these places and yes you're right they might have a kid but they're not staying here for the most part if they do uh they generally move
out or they send their kids to private schools that's usually what happens so um so Counciloman do you have a better breakdown the breakdowns 31 units on one bedrooms 32 on two beds there we go almost right right down the middle
thank you you need me more i'm sorry i may okay I'll call you i'll be right um stay there yeah I do think um I am not opposed to the pilot um I'm not opposed to the idea of additional
funds being allocated directly to the city budget um I certainly would never be in favor of anything that didn't support our school board um I do think this absolutely does support the school board i would like to see and I would never I
I am of the mind that the 10% allocation for any pilot um that includes language um for the council to vote out of that um should be removed i'm I'm not in favor of that being there i think that there should be a mandate if there is a
pilot um we are responsible for the school board budget um I do think that should be mandatory i would be in favor of having that revised um but I am also in favor of a greater amount of dollars benefiting our city directly and I would
hope that those funds are put to good use um for our residents that are here that are long-term residents that will um have to warm up and and get used to the idea of of this newly developed
community that they're living in um and so nevertheless with that I vote I mr uh I was very proud to be part of the council that mandated the 10% in the
agreements and it actually if I'm if I'm not mistaken I believe it started at five and we upped it to 10 even so most cities don't give anything to the board of ed so I kind of like that also with the pilot you see how much more in taxes
that we're getting so even that's an increase to the board of ed at the 10% where they usually get zero um having said that I don't remember the absorption study if it was broken down by age group but I would love to see how
many people from let's say you know 30 to 40 years and and 40 to 50 i'd like to see the numbers of who are living in these buildings because Mr carol you and I were proponents of that absorption study that was done and when I go to a
lot of these buildings or I go to different things I see a lot of new people in their 30s late 20s living in there so I don't know when I say a lot I don't know the percentage but I was wondering if that absorption study had that and if we could have that information it it didn't because
the again it's based off of what was the units leased it didn't look on to the actual number of people within the the apartment so we wouldn't know if it's a single person renting it if it's a couple uh if it was a family it's just was that unit leased on that there what
I can suggest um they do have software programs out there uh that track um on the phones um based on people's movements and they do the data to you know kind of get that information um we
can obviously chat uh more about it it's the the one of the companies we met with Placer AI um tracks that off the phones and the data uses for games and other things like that so uh it may be worthwhile but that when we got quoted for um that
proposal we didn't advance it because of again on the resources of you know the city you know my department it's $25,000 for the year per and again for the license and I realize the data changes all the time including the absorption study rate could change as well especially with different interest rates
and and different things going on um you know as far as uh what people can afford even in rent as opposed to uh maybe ownership or renting somewhere else hello my only answer comment is that I I do think and and in my conversations
with Councilman Booker that um I I do think we have to start giving some serious consideration to the building of new schools we are Mr noski is not wrong in that our schools are at
capacity and we we do have to give consideration to how we are going to grow um in the best way possible because we will grow and our schools need to have the ability to absorb um additional
students whether it's um you know whether it's 100 200 students in our grammar schools we have one high school and and I realize that we are near completion on on a second but that is geared towards vocational use only or vocational education only and so I I do
think we have to start giving some more consideration i I agree 100% um you know councilwoman on that you know I'm willing to you know and open you know to hear conversations from the the board of education and the administrators on you know again their the plan for uh you
know what they're uh would propose to improve the schools you know they're you know you know I'm willing to you know sit down and meet with them anytime to discuss and how best we can help with this so hey Maria hi hi Maria state your
name maria 767 Avenue um I was board president for years i haven't been there for like four years right but when I was there I remember we negotiated you guys approved it and all that but I never we never never remembered receiving this the 10% we don't like Well I was there i
haven't been there in three years three and a half years i left four years never remember receiving it but I do remember um Councilwoman Weer didn't you h have something that you checked how many children were down i I do that coming i
I do um I didn't I don't have numbers absolutely um I want to say when last I checked and it was not this year i want to say it was perhaps last year i do think we had um I want to
call it 66 okay children coming from um from the old military ocean terminal at that point right that we were you were saying some of that school bus was needed exactly there was and there was a there
was no crossing for to come through exly exactly that was that was the issue and and that was that's that's stale so I that data is not not fresh but by any means up to date so I I don't know exactly what that number is now sounds like two years ago when you first I want I want to say it may have been um two
years ago right cuz I had just left I think and you because I'm we we discussed it we were outside could be discussed yes i had just left because I told you I wasn't on the board anymore yep um and that's the reality that we have our schools in Bayon are older you know most of them are like you know
Civil War age some of them you know there's not enough room for all the children there is overcrowding in our schools so whenever we do a pilot I'll always come up and advocate for schools guys know I'm a teacher for 30 years i'm always advocating for kids so when we do
these pilots and we do these things please make sure that that 10% that we agreed upon that we all were so happy about that day that we got it through that it does come to the schools because there are needs you know budgets from the state get cut then they have to cut teachers and we really don't want that because our kids deserve it as the board
president did you discuss with the board the board of ed plans for new schools not just what the city is oh yeah yeah we discussed a separate group yeah that was a separate a separate group we tried to go out to get The only ship is on the board not No no no that this new schools
what we need is always funding you know and the state is limited on their funding for the new schools how how does things like that director Skiller how how how are those funds transferred or allocated to the board of education
budget so if we we give a 10% pilot over x number of years uh I'm sorry if we give that pilot over x number of years 10% is mandated to go to the school board or to the school budget how is what is the effectuation forgive me I just don't know how does that get from
one place to the other th this is the not going to say the fallacy it's the misunderstanding about what's going on here if the school says we need $200 million from the city of Bayon for our
budget we have to come up with $200 million you never get short the school never gets short change ever not a penny you are getting your money no matter what so it it's it's almost a intellectual con construct when you say okay there's the city portion of the the
tax payment there's the schools portion of the tax payment and then there's the county's section of the port when you go to pay your taxes you're not saying okay here's 17% to the county so and no matter what we are obligated as as the municipality to provide the money to pay
the school levy so I I hear this all the time and it's if I sit here and do an example with three cars with gumballs in it you end up with more gumballs with of course I know how the financial Okay so so so then when you say when you say that 10% is going to should go to the
school it does go to the school here's the question so when that when that was signed then that was like fanfare type thing right that's what you're saying because if we would have asked for that you're getting it no matter what if so even if that was never filled out
they never did that we would still get that money you're you're still getting that money now right okay so if the board now I know the board's losing some money from the state because there's cuts so if they come to you and say "Well we lost it from the state we need it from when you come to us with with
your tax levy that you need." It's the taxpayers who pay who pay the bill and we're both constrained by appropriations caps and other caps um but the fact of the matter is if you had the I think
they said that the property undeveloped is generating 17,000 you said okay no no no that I understand the mathematics of it the only thing I'm saying is when we say there's not going to be children there are going to be children is there going to be 63 children because there's 63 apartments of course not we we could
never know right right that's not you know that's not logical at all we understand what you're saying but I want to get back to the financial so that was just that was just what I was asking was about that 10% to clarify where where does it go so everyone understands okay thank you
um Miss Bato are you aware I mean Miss Mau excuse me are you aware of the payments being sent uh to the board of ed like part of that or That's not what happens okay do you
want to explain i know you're you are in both so I'm uncomfortable speaking at this point in this scenario but I will say this there is no separate check that is 10% of a pilot being sent anywhere it is
whatever the board of ed struggles to keep a budget that is sustainable they get hit with surprises the same as the city we are one city and one school district we are all the same it is our children in that place that
sounds like a foreign land the school district but there is no separate the 10% of a pilot being set aside for the school district is is a misnomer it's not a real thing it is simply the school
district strikes a budget we are allowed by law a maximum of a 2% cap a 2% levy on top of the funds that we get that create our budget to ask the city the
rest of our family to send that money to us so we can educate our students it I would love I am so sorry I haven't even been named business administrator yet it's still yet to be addressed on the agenda however I would love fire me
now i would love to have a symposium or or something here in this chamber and really do arithmetic and explain to people elected and electors voters how this really works because the financial
agreement's not addressing it this deis can't address it we are not getting to the real story and these people are just trying to ask the real arithmetic it's it's actually quite simple but it's not going to make anybody happy okay all
right so I will both hats i want to wrap this up and get back to the financial agreement that we're talking about so we're actually at the final vote and we're waiting on your vote Mr i vote I moving on 06 is an ordinance approving
the financial agreement buy and between the city of Bayon and Denoi Residents Urban Renewal LLC for the property located at 1099-105 Avenue Z and 666-68 West 54 Street which is identified as block 34
lots 26 27 28 29 and 30 as shown on the official tax map of the city which was introduced and passed a first meeting reading at the meeting held February 19th was published lished in the star ledger and posted on the bulletin board as required by law with notice that it would be further considered for final
passage following a public hearing at this meeting of March 19th is now before the council for its consideration and a public hearing and a resolution given the ordinance second reading is moved by Mr perez who'd like to second second and on that resolution Mr booker I Mr carol
Mr perez I miss Mr dapaloosa i second reading is by title an ordinance approving the financial agreement buying between the city of Bayon and Denoi Residents urban renewal LLC for the property located at
1099-1015 Avenue C and 66-68 West 54th Street the council is now ready to give all persons interested in this ordinance an opportunity to be heard concerning it the council president will recognize anyone who wishes to speak state your name and address please
sharon Nowski 126 Avenue thank you um just going to say I understand fully how the pilots work and I understand Mr coffee the because I was here for that bill and let's talk about when we say we do and I said that before when I stood here the school always gets what they
levy it's the law but the point was that levy is only being spread against everyone who's not included in the pilot okay so the 10% how when I was here how that was written to be is that 10% was
set aside when it came in in a bucket and that was on was not then that 10% whether it was $5 million was not now distributed across the regular taxpaying individuals and that is what's not
happening that is what is not happening so if the school board levy was you know $80 million and we had what should be divided amongst the residents who are paying non-piloted taxes should have been minus the 10% of the pilots and it
shouldn't have been divided so when you say the school board's fully funded it is but it's not fully funded by all the people that live in the town the un an un uneven share goes to the people who are not under a pilot so understand that so don't say it's fully funded it is
fully funded but not fully by the same people evenly and this is something we discussed adnauseium when you were sitting here and it's no secret the bottom line is the rest of the rest of the taxpayers it's it's essentially a spreading of the pain uh are the ones
including the pilot excluding that pilot individual but but but if 50% the but the bill still remains the same i understand that but the the the spirit of the bill that we passed I don't know how you wrote it because we normally don't have it when you're there or you just change it but um it was that that
money the 10% should be taken out of the equation of what you're distributed amongst the regular peon taxpayers who weren't part of a pilot that was it so that money was set aside and not calculated into but it doesn't matter
yes it does it doesn't because it's coming out of your budget for doing whatever you want with and as opposed to it's coming out of the taxpayers's pocket no matter what no because maybe you wouldn't raise taxes every year you know you're raising them but then you're not wasting on other things so right so
maybe you hold yourself accountable to some extent because you don't have as much sitting in your bucket and then you blame because your letter comes out don't blame us your the school board went up you know 20 they're 15% of the of the increase when you know before you
you'd have that same increase no matter how we allocate the pot not against to the people no you would have less in your budget to pay with unless you It's not our budget it's the taxpayers i get what you're saying Jay but you wouldn't you wouldn't bear it to sit there and say "Hey well the school board raised a
you know a 2% levy because they didn't need to raise a 2% levy because they got this 10% over here you're the city's actually raising more of the levy because they need more money to play with if if everything was all distributed." But but if if we're take
if it's regular taxation 60% let's say goes to the school right 50 I don't know what the number is now but let's say it's 60% is coming out of all the tax areas including the prop property owns there it's the taxpayers who are paying
that bill and it's the taxpayers who are paying the m the county portion and it's the taxpayers who are paying our portion it's all on the taxpayer not the city it's and so the But for is if we've hit the point where a pilot is no longer an
incentive to build we can tell people now you don't need a pilot you can build this uh without a pilot we're just doing regular taxation uh if we've hit that point then that's the decision for the administration and the council to make and you you you know that's a delicate balance and it it's dependent on market factors if this was the same market as
five years ago I'd say yeah probably at this point we can we can stop with the pilots or we can change the rates on the pilots but the market changed and it could change again next Thursday it get worse so you're right and then then we have no construction going on from 2000 Joe Nichols used to stand here spittle
would be coming out of his mouth because he'd get so excited he'd say "You want some empirical evidence?" From 2001 to 2014 in a place that had the the most valuable piece of property in in in all of New Jersey one thing got built and it stood out there like a a beacon of of
failure uh for 14 years the moment we offered pilots and you and I lived through this it had to be a mind change we our bayon sensibility said we shouldn't do this we had somebody come in with a different viewpoint and we turned on the spigot and it incentivized people to come here to build we were the
And if you want proof is in the pudding you were part of the solve $26 million in debt when you walked in and now we're we're we're break even you know we're we're a a profitable entity yeah and and we are getting all this great money and then our taxes have gone up every single solitary year every year every year and
I and my point is we're getting to do the math on what our taxes would be if we didn't I want to get back to the financial agreement okay so I thought the 10% to the school The spirit of that was it was it was
supposed to be in addition to a new revenue stream not part of the levy it was supposed to be we're giving this in addition because obviously we all knew like Miss Vada said before me that it was just smok and mirrors and that's never was the spirit of to say we're giving you 10% because we know by law we
have to give them whatever the levy is it was supposed to be additional funding it was supposed to be yeah we raised taxes and the city was going to give them 10% we had it 5% first and then we upped it to 10% of additional funding to help them offset the additional cost to
uh improve the schools look for news new schools that was the spirit of how we passed that i don't know because if it really was just we're saying we're giving them to them it was smok and mirrors because we always have to give them what it didn't have to do anything special to do that but the law requires but if the
school board takes in that extra 10% above and beyond I don't know how they take it above and beyond the levy but so if if your budget is $80 million the levy because the money has to come from the from the municipality the levy is $80 million that that that's what your
your um needs are and so I don't I don't I understand the frustration but but the the practical impact of it is that it's $80 million whether you can't get $80 million plus other money because the state requires you to deduct that off of
your tax okay then we'll take that in so then your your point about saying the maybe should be taken out is irrelevant your 10% should be taken out because you're not giving it above and beyond it's just a wash i I would like to look further into that 10% and we'll figure
something out right and so I would as well and so Director Skiler I'm sorry can you just explain this to me for for two minutes sure so we because all of these redevelopment agreements require a
10% allocation or or require our ability to exercise that 10% be allocated towards the schoolboard budget correct and is that is that correct what I will do is I will read the exact language that is in you know almost every single
financial agreement that the city of Bayon has adopted the one in front of me right now is from 2018 for 26 North Street when it was at 5% so section 15.08 it goes voluntary payment to the board uh sorry the Bayon school district goes it states the municipal council
shall adopt a resolution uh directing the city to remit five uh percentage uh of the annual service charge to the Bayon school district as a voluntary payment or payments that is the language and we've you know as a policy decision was increased that we've increased it to
10 that language look that that language is in every single financial agreement that we put in front of you and so in my and again in layman's terms what that says to me is that the taxes for that property come in
we allocate that five or 10% depending upon what the agreement said and even if it's a line item it's a line item if the funds never exchange hands it is what it is but the allocation of that 5 to 10% goes in a line item to the school board
budget what that also says to me is we acrew that money on an annual basis and the school board comes in and we owe $10 million that money comes off the top and then the remaining balance of the schoolboard budget that the city that
the taxpayers the residents are responsible for paying it then gets allocated either amongst the money we have in the budget allocated for it or in the form of an increase in taxes is that not correct yes I see Jay shaking his head i will concur so you can hear
that over there oh yeah I hear the whist that is correct the if if we're going to do it that way that's yeah that's how it would you'd have create a different bucket we'll use the buckets as a reference point and you would create a bucket where money is designated from the pilot to go into
that specific bucket okay so it is not that the properties under this pilot are not contributing at all towards our schoolboard budget those the allocation of whatever the funds are it comes off the top that money goes directly towards the schoolboard budget and then the
remaining balance either comes from funds that we've allocated in our budget or unfortunately through an increase in taxes is correct once again it's an intellectually perfect synopsis thank you all right thank you okay would
you I want to try and move on to the financial agreement mike so I'll let you speak but I'll be very fast micro Signal 42 West 23rd uh what I'm hearing with all these u you know the um pilots and and the money and the school no matter
what the school wants they're going to get and the overcrowding so why don't the school board just build another high school and school and give you the bill well Mike that that's going to entail a bond and it's going to entail you know who pays for that taxpayers pay you do
well I'm just you know it's but but that that as long as you got to pay it you're saying building another school is 100 million plus i mean depending Okay that's I'm a layman here i'm just trying to you know make sense of all this you're all saying it's very easy just you know we got to pay them it's quite an undertaking
all right so if we could move on with respect to the agreement agenda look with the respect of the agreement to be a technocrat here I'm telling you what's in the agreement sorry the yes like I said that is standard language that has been vetted by our legal counsel that was you know adopted you know back in
you know the past council again when you know Mr was on the on the deis in the agreements as I said the standard language that is in our financial agreement states that the municipal council shall adopt a resolution directing the city to remit 5% you know for 26 North in this case now 10 uh
percentage of the annual service charge to the Bayon school district as a voluntary payment or payments that is in the agreement that is all four that are in front of me that's what's currently happening that is that is in the agreement is that what's happening I I
don't know okay i think I will to research that i will research it i will look into it i can only state of what it what it what the agreements are okay i appreciate that thank you this pilot 06 we're on yes represents condo units yes that's where I was getting at so would
you give a brief breakdown of the following yeah please explain two years the the difference in taxation of a of a rental unit versus a condo unit as it relates to pilot so for condos let's backtrack a bit on this and
you know Dan can come up and explain some of the the financial terms similar to the last ones but generally speaking when you build a condo project you are designing it differently than a rental apartment so rental apartments you're trying to you know gain the most dollar
per square foot at out of it so you're squeezing you know smaller unit sizes helps boost up the dollar per square foot for condos the because they are sale prices you know the market you know and the intended recipient you know to
purchase that property is a different buyer so the these are people that you know want to sit you know want to raise you know their family want to live they don't want to rent they want to own so for the ownership of that you want to you know own a bigger you know you know
square footage of you know property and that's what it is so the units here are you know bigger they're not uh you know your onebedrooms are not your you know 550 650 square foot you know they're closer to your 800 you know square foot
you know your two beds you know on the range of,250 again something designed for what the market captures with that said on how the structure of the pilots work pursuant to the statute in the agreements they there's assumed to be a
money purchase a money mortgage purchase on this and it's again back to the the rentals with we're we're all aware of the adjusted gross revenue aspect so it's assumed that that mortgage payment would be a rent payment and that's how we get the the annual service charge
from that in that mechanism for the specific financial terms for for this project for Denoi again from the policy directive you know from the council we've encouraged you know for home ownership you know because we can't it's tough to build single two family homes
because the prices you know are getting into the millions now uh we are you know trying to encourage and you know with this pilot helps incentivize home ownership for condos you know so with that said for you know on the financial
terms of it Danny if you just want to kind of quickly you know go over a couple things and council president Leva just on I know from a on the community give backs that we've been asking for I you know I'll state on the record I think given
the fact of home ownership or ownership of real estate here is a benefit to people you know you're not paying a developer rent you're having someone that's keeping equity into their property You know that in and of itself is you know we're trying to encourage you know more projects like this to help
cover that middle market of us having you know the jump from rental apartments to single family or two family home ownership this helps cover that portion of all right I can't afford a single family home but I can afford something
you know in between as a condo and that's in theory what's supposed to happen um I know you're looking for a traffic light there are three projects coming up that we will ask the developer on those projects to help contribute to um with
the redevelopment plans coming up um you know while we're you know vetting it that is you know top of my priority for a couple projects in your ward that we're identifying right now thank you for that i did ask for uh the community
to give back because we need a light on 56th and Avenue C we had a crossing guard get hit it's close to the area which is why I wanted uh the this development to pay something into it but um I do realize there was a change to
condos and I really want to see this project uh come to fruition because again this is an area that's definitely in need of some rejuvenation so if you want to if Dan could give us a little oversight on that as well sure um just to give a little summary of the project
uh it's a total of 44 units uh in a six-story building with uh two levels of parking below uh and four stories of residential there will be 44 parking spaces along with a roughly 1800 square
foot retail component um as Joe mentioned typically condo buildings are built differently higher finishes uh which result in higher per unit cost and higher per square foot costs so here you have an estimated project cost of about
$21 million uh which comes out to about $485,000 per unit to build um so in order for the developer to make a reasonable return we first look at what these units would sell for under conventional taxes when we looked at
recent comps um and uh most recently the Chris's Corner units that have sold uh it appears that under conventional taxes it would be about a break even you know they would sell all out all the units
and the total sales prices generated would be about the same as the total project cost so as it relates to the pilot it works a little bit differently than on a rental project because on a rental project the owner the urban renewal entity is the one making that
pilot payment and it's based on 10% of whatever revenues are generated by that building uh on a for a sale project uh when a unit is purchased the responsibility of making the pilot payment goes to that individual unit
owner um why that benefits the developer is because now that that individual unit owner is able to pay less uh tax money they will be willing to presumably pay more in the sale price um so the
developer is assuming a pretty aggressive sale price uh for all the units just to give you a sense they're assuming $650 a foot for the purchase price of these units um it's a mix of junior one beds four junior one beds 16
true one-bedroom units and 24bedroom units uh and they're expecting or hoping that the units would sell for 390,000 for those junior ones 485,000 for those true onebedrooms and
640,000 for the two bedrooms um now as it relates to the pilot calculation um you don't you're still doing it based on a percentage of gross revenue um but however an annual gross revenue is
defined differently so annual gross revenue is defined as uh the sale price you take the initial sales price of the unit and you assume a mortgage at a 100% debt so let's say a unit sells for
$500,000 um you assume a $500,000 loan for a term equal to the pilot length in this case 25 years at the going interest rate at the time of the purchase so you do a annual mortgage calculation on
$500,000 over a 25-year term at let's say 6.5% right now that comes out to an an annual mortgage payment you then add any applicable homeowners association fees to that number that gets you your
annual gross revenue number you apply 10% in this case for the first uh 18 years to that number that becomes your pilot and that is the responsibility of the individual unit owner to pay now what we've also incorporated into the
agreement is if for some reason the units don't all sell or it takes longer to sell those units um we have included a sellout schedule so that uh it is the responsibility of the urban renewal
entity to make those payments um so that schedule assumes three units sell per month and we uh converted those three units into what that unit would have to pay in a pilot per month so uh for
example their minimum annual service charge it essentially becomes their minimum annual service charge is $88,000 in year one uh regardless of how many units are sold per apartment total total total yes so to give you a sense of what
the the pilot payments are estimated to be as compared to conventional taxes uh based on their assumed sales price for the junior one uh the pilot would be 3500 per unit as compared to about 4500
under conventional taxes uh for the one beds 4,300 per unit as compared to 6,000 and for the two beds 5600 compared to 8,100 so it comes out to about 70 or 75%
of conventional taxes that's the the break that the individual unit owner is getting from this pilot um so at once all the units are sold and if we assume they are sold at the levels that the
developer is expecting the total pilot would be approximately $218,000 um we've also included that the annual service charge payment would increase by 2% per year so uh it won't
say even though it's based on 10% of gross revenue once that amount for an individual unit is identified that payment will increase by 2% every year thereafter uh another thing just to add is in a situation where there's a resale
you know the individual the the first person to buy that unit resells it in a year or two years that calculation that I described earlier about annual gross revenue is recalculated based on that sale price based on the interest rate at that time so that could mean depending
on what happens with the market if they sell it for a profit the pilot's going to go up or if interest rates decrease uh or they sell it for a loss the pilot could go down and uh lastly the current taxes
generated by the site $49,300 uh of which the city shares about 22,000 um and again the the pilot is 25 years 18 years at 10% and 7 years at 11%
what was the the current taxes that's being paid on the whole property uh 49,293 okay anyone else on 06 we'll protest against objections to or statements in favor of this ordinance or its passage has been filed with me may I have a motion to close move it second
on a motion to close Mr booker i Mr carol hi mr perez i miss we Mr lapaloo i and a resolution ordering final passage move it second on that resolution mr booker hi mr carol
this one was tough for me because I want to see condos and I'd like to see home ownership but I think there's too much risk involved and this would also be a perfect opportunity to do using government tax credits uh a first-time
homeowner building or a workforce building where the prices are reduced and it helps people that have a lower salary own property and take pride in their their structure i vote no
mr perez I Miss We Mr lapaloo i 07 is approving the financial agreement buying between the city of Bayon and 26 North Avenue Urban Renewal LLC for the property located at 26 North Street
which is identified as block 297 lot 3 as shown on the official tax map of the city it was introduced and passed the first reading at the meeting held February 19th was published in the star ledger and posted on the bulletin boards required by law with notice that it would be further considered for final passage following a public hearing at
this meeting of March 19th is now before the council force consideration and a public hearing and resolution moved by the council president given the ordinance second reading mr perez will second second on the resolution Mr booker hi mr carroll hi mr perez hi
missur hi mr i second reading is by title an ordinance of the city of Bayon County of Hudson New Jersey approving the financial agreement buying between the city of Bayon and 26 North Avenue urban renewal LLC for the property located at 26 North Street which is identified as
block 297 lot 3 as shown on the official tax map of the city the council is now ready to give all persons interested in this ordinance an opportunity to be heard concerning it the council president will recognize anyone who wishes to speak i I actually have a question
so the the detail explains that um we we all know this to be a very large piece of property and the detail explains the 14story mixed juice um
number of residential uses um units excuse me and then parking spaces and an additional uh 50 EV spaces 264 bike parking spaces so I just wonder are any of those parking spaces going to
be um especially the EV spaces that assuming would have charging stations so are are they available for use by the pub by the community the residents around them or is it solely limited and dedicated to the
um to the residents of that building generally um buildings like that would be just towards the residents of the building the EV credit law or so the EV charging stations there that's a statemandated uh rule for all projects
that they have to put building you know put them in the buildings the other thing also just to on a a side note here on that um for the general public we've been our fire officials are aware of some of the the issues that and are addressing in buildings to make sure
that they are those car vehicles are safe towards the exits um uh of the garages just in case if the car vehicles uh do catch fire uh there's emergency you know fire blankets put on there and the ability to drag them out from the garage so it doesn't burn within the
building because of the ion batteries the lithium ion batteries in there it's not a conventional fire it's a it the heat you know just absorbs so those blankets uh kill the the oxygen there and they just let it you know uh cool down on its own
but just on a side note I had to say that um because that some of the things while may not have been in the redevelopment plans you know one of the issues during our um uh budget uh I'm sorry our uh pre-construction meeting uh the fire
officials have brought up and are being currently addressed with resolution compliance with uh all the the new buildings going up to kind of comply with the the EV uh rules so
just very quickly Michael Melli I'm the applicant attorney um I think they'll probably be we don't know that we we're trying to figure out the exact number now but there'll still be maybe an EV space available to the retail users so to that to that extent it'll be
available there'll be an EV space available to the to the public but the uh the residents will have their own parking spaces so um yeah so if there's any you know if there's whatever number is required by law to be associated with the retail that's what we'll provide and so with 6,900 square feet of retail
space how many We're looking now I'm not positive what the law says i can't remember what it says on spaces allocated for the public to utilize um for those for that reason we we'll make sure that there's at least what was it 2500 uh square feet for four spots or I
can't remember off the top of my head i'll be honest with you have to go back and look at the site plan but um but whatever amount is is associated with the retail whatever percentage needs to by law be available for EV that will be what the public has access to
and quick question uh can we re revisit the uh you said there's some outside parking that's going to be added on yes if I can just uh get some more information on that just before we vote yes well there's an area that we provided along North Street that can serve as a pull-in area as a delivery
area for certain times but that would certainly provide the opportunity for on street additional on street parking spaces that don't exist there today um we haven't marked those out we would be happy to mark out mark it out as a delivery space or parking spaces or both
however the city council deem whatever the city council deems appropriate but that space is new and it is it is I think it would be a welcome thing and I think some of the neighbors were happy to hear that when they came to the site plan hearing so uh you know whenever we can add on street parking as a result of
a a development application that's always a good day yeah because the neighbors that came in they were uh they weren't opposed to it they just wanted to they wanted the idea of what would be some on street parking added to their community yes thank you sure
anyone else on 07 well well uh do you just want to just go kind of go through the financial terms with uh Dan on these or is it Well he just ex Oh no that was from that was for the Dan you could sure give us an overview
um so this is a 14story building with four floors of parking one of those floors being underground um for a total of 455 spaces it's a mix between studio one and twobedroom units uh what stands
out is 76% of the building is studios and ones um again a retail component of about 6,900 square ft now because this is a a mid-rise or high-rise building this is a different type of construction
uh this isn't 40 over2 stick built construction this is going to require steel a different type of material which costs more money um that's why it's very difficult to build these you know taller buildings um so on a per unit basis on a
per square foot basis the project cost is much higher than a typical rental building uh as it stands right now the proposed terms are for 30 years uh 10 years at 10% 10 years at 11% and 10
years of 12% um as it relates to the phase in uh what we've incorporated is a much more aggressive phase in than what is allowed for under the statute as the minimum um you have 10 years of zero
five years of 20 five years of 40 five years of 60 and five years of 80 so those final 10 years will not necessarily be based on a percentage of revenue um they will most likely be based on 60% and 80% of conventional
taxes um because the typical uh turnover is at 60% so the percentage of gross revenue is no longer greater than 60% of conventional taxes so for those final five years uh the city will be getting
95% of 60% of conventional and 80% of conventional uh right now the site generates 78,000 of which the city share is approximately $80,000 and
um this will most likely take a longer time to lease up so we've uh incorporated a a three-year lease up schedule as in our projections so in year one we're estimating the gross pilot will be about $470,000
uh of which the city will receive $456,000 in year two we're estimating 1.36 million of which this city would receive about 1.32 and in year three which is assumed
95% occupied uh the gross pilot would be about 1.8 million of which the city would receive 1.75 [Music] so Dan the only question I have that came out of that that sticks in my mind
is I heard you say years one through five are a zero payment so now just correct me if I'm wrong yeah so yeah that's is a required minimum payment on an right so in every year so that's the
the phasing of conventional taxes right so in years 1 through 10 the pilot calculation will be based on the greater of 10% of gross revenue or 0% of conventional so that doesn't come into play okay i I just want to make sure
that we clarified that for everybody and myself okay thank you no problem anyone else no protest against objections to or statements in favor of this ordinance or its passage has been filed with me you
may have a motion to close so move second on the motion to close Mr booker hi Mr carol mr perez hi Miss Weamer hi Mr lapaloosa hi and a resolution ordering final passage
second and on that resolution Mr booker hi Mr carol again again this represents a unique situation uh a lot has gone on on this property i
would I gave a colorful euphemism before i'll give another one it's an Irish saying when you're forced to choose between two bowls of dung you choose the one that smells the least and sadly this is the one that smells the least i'm not willing to risk
uh inflicting two 22story towers or more on the people of the first ward and so I I vote I is that James Garfield or Oh was that Yeets herbert Hoover mr perez i Miss We Mr lapaloosa i kind
of like lesser of two evils sometimes you know it's a little more uh smells less smells March you know but I'll vote I 08 is an ordinance amending and supplementing the general ordinances of the city of Bay on chapter 1 general
provisions it was introduced and passed the first reading at the meeting held February 19th was published in the star ledger and posted on the bulletin boards required by law with notice that it would be further considered for a final passage following a public hearing at this meeting of March 19th is now before the council for consideration and a
public hearing and a resolution moved by the council president given the ordinance second reading miss Weamer will you second second on the resolution Mr booker mr carol I mr perez I Miss We mr lapaloosa i second reading is by
title an ordinance amending and supplementing the general ordinances of the city of bay on chapter 1 general provisions the council is now ready to give all persons interested in this ordinance an opportunity to be heard concerning it the council president will recognize anyone who wishes to speak
okay no protest against objections to or statements in favor of this ordinance or its passage has been filed with me may I have a motion to close move it and on that resolution Mr booker hi mr
carol hi mr perez I Miss We Mr lapaloosa i And resolution ordering final passage move it second and on that resolution Mr booker hi mr carol hi Mr perez hi Miss
Weamer hi Mr lapaloosa hi 09 is amending and supplementing the revised general ordinances of the city of Bayon chapter 7 traffic which was introduced and passed the first reading at the meeting held February 19th was published in the star ledger and posted
on the bulletin board is required by law with notice that it would be further considered for final passage following a public hearing at this meeting of March 19th is now before the council for its consideration and a public hearing and a resolution moved by the councilman Weamer given the ordinance second reading Mr carol will you second second
on a resolution Mr booker hi Mr carol hi Mr perez hi Miss Weamer hi Mr laalooa hi second reading is by title an ordinance amending and supplementing the revised general ordinances of the city of Bay on chapter 7 traffic the council is now ready to give all persons interested in
this ordinance an opportunity to be heard concerning it the council president will recognize anyone who wishes to speak no protest against Objections to or statements in favor of this ordinance or its passage has been filed with me may I have a motion to close move it second and a motion to close mr booker
hi mr carroll hi mr perez hi miss hi mr lapaloo hi and a resolution ordering final pass and on that resolution Mr booker hi mr carol hi mr perez hi missur hi mr laploo
hi first speaker is Miss Nadski the real reason I came here tonight the pilots were all extra sharon Nrosski 126 Avenue i'm here to talk about your the city's plan to move the
impound yard or expand the impound yard to West Second Street i have in my hand an ordinance that was passed 0-19-48 on January um August 21st um of 2019 um this ordinance of the city of
Bayon count county of Hudson New Jersey designating a certain portion of the public street known as West Second Street within the city of Bayon as a pedestrian mall pursuant to NJSA 40 col 56 there 65 okay so basically what this
says is and I'm reading it from the city's ordinance um it's basically designated to be prelim preliminary for the movement of and safety convenience and enjoyment of pedestrians and
pedestrian mall improvement shall include but not limited to a pedestrian through fairs public seating park areas outdoor cafes trees flower planting kioses street lighting and other such fixtures equipments facilities and such
so now the other part of this that you can you guys have the whole thing but um so in the best interest of the municipality and the public and to benefit the adjacent properties to such street preliminary for pedestrian purposes that the pedestrian use is
determined to be of the highest and best use for such street or part of therefore that is the ordinance was passed in 2019 now you fenced it in never seen the city move so fast by the way it was an outside company it sends in and it's
going to be used as a pound if you don't understand what First Street is on the east side of First Street we have a scrap metal yard that is put in metal you're all very familiar with and we just learned today that they're comingling the scrap metal with the sand and stone which is illegal but that's
going on down there it's environmental uh violation now on the other side we want to put an impound that's a 247 operation in the backyard of 11 people a block from me gas and oil and I I know the reason why I know a lot of people
probably don't drive down Hook Road and see where the pound is now but yeah I'm that nut that rides down there once in a while i have a video from months ago um there's got to be 50 cars that doesn't fit in that lot that they're all along the street um half on the sidewalk half
in the street on the Conrail property i don't know what the city is not going to auction and if you can't get it to auction scrap them get $300 a piece for them because they're free for you anyway so if you can't handle the load you got don't make it our problem in our backyard in a residential area you have
a movie studio that's supposed to be coming up down there right so a block and a half away you're going to put a city impound yard not to mention the noise at 24 hours and additionally you build right next door which is also in
violation of the um city master plan which specifically talks about the um um Texico improvement plan and about how incorporating and the H Street improvement plan because that all kind of comes together talks about how we're going to incorporate the change because
it was written you know back in 2020 about how we're going to um implement the change from industrial light industrial into residential as you know that's kind of stuff's moving out of town and it talks that one of the ways they're getting through that is to have a five they're mandated in their um the
master plan at least a 500 foot buffer between any such nonresidential between another residential property cascam as you guys know you passed it and you increased it higher than it was originally generally pass for you made it a residential it's supposed to be luxury residential the fence is actually
not even all on city property they've actually put the fence across Conrail property they cover the the city fence now goes and the railroad tracks are in there which I know Conrail is not okay with because people tried to buy that property and they refused to give it up um and you put it that fence butts up
directly to this residential property which isn't is not consistent with the master plan the the use of the land isn't consistent with the ordinance that's on file with the city i don't know whose idea it was actually I do know whose idea it was somebody who doesn't live in the city hasn't lived in
the city for 30 years but works here this was his idea because it doesn't impact him he has no buy in here he comes to work and goes home i I'm waiting for you to finish but truth of the matter is I don't know if I can't speak for my colleagues but I know nothing about I did call Mr booker and
and I did let him know about it i gave him a heads up i said I would told him you know maybe he could get an answer but I let him know he was coming here i didn't want people to think i told you the truth that I know nothing about this and you asked me if this was going to be an issue on the agenda today and I told
you no and I know nothing about this and the city council would obviously have to change that ordinance for that to happen well it's already built i'm telling you that I don't like that that close to residential and that I'll have to research this more because the fence is
up so I'm gonna tell you that Sergeant Ki I'm going to put it out there um I talked to Jimmy Gamal who owns the property there um because you know I made him aware of it yeah I did because I think he should know he made a big investment down there and now there's going to be and I wouldn't want to live next to a scrap metal yard i mean if I
can jump out of town but um and Jimmy said that he talked to Sergeant Ki and Sergeant K oh it'll only be temporary we'll move it once you start building and I said you know that never happens once something goes there never it's never going to move and it's gas and oil and if you don't believe that it spills and it gets all over the place just
drive down to the pound we have now but even temporary would have to come before this council so nothing has been presented to me i knew nothing about it until your text messaging somebody authorized somebody paid for the fences their part third party out of
town so that's I'm good i just want to hear that's it's just public speaking and I know it wasn't on the agenda but if I didn't make you as aware of it it was going to happen and we like I said once it happens it's very hard to undo something okay we'll we'll take everything you said into consideration
mr all right first thing uh I appreciate you reaching out and uh like uh the president said uh Gary we weren't aware of this and what was going on but I did my own research and when someone brings something to me I have to be educated myself to know what's going on so I actually did a driveby i rode around
there today and I was looking at that property number one this has been an idea of expanding this uh pound for a couple of years okay number two that is city uh owned property all right so it didn't have to come to us to the zoning board or whatever so we were unaware of it but when you keep saying residentials
I didn't see that's a lot of empty land down there i mean where are you referring to the resident that's what I Okay well explain to me exactly your location please cuz I drove by there today his house is right on the corner Louis right on the corner
tracy Fusa 15 Kennedy Boulevard my backyard maybe 100 feet from where they put up that fence line so if that city pound goes there that means I can It's a flashback to the Port Authority for me never opening my windows 247 operation
and nobody gives a whether I could sleep or not well ma'am listen uh I'm I'm not looking to argue with you by any means i understand the concern and this will affect us so when you say you don't see any houses we are there okay i might have over I might have overseen your property and forgive me if I did but I
did also speak to uh Lieutenant Ki and he explained something first of all it's not going to be a 24-hour operation okay it's not I don't know where that information came from number two it is a temporary site and with the listen with the um with the development that's going
on down there and it was stated to me that obviously if it's an aesthetic thing then the the the city would move the pound but right now what you're saying far as cars on the highway i've been down there in that property i don't know exact number but you're right they're looking to move them i agree it
is it is an eyes saw to drive down that road but it is not going to be a 24-hour operation and there's not going to be a whole lot of noise down there and when that happens when it does happen I'm curious who do I call to say this is
happening who do I call the police they are not going to do anything who do I call when my life is being disrupted when they are impounding cars or moving cars in there in the evening if it goes there i want to know because Port Authority also said I wouldn't be bothered so did the mayor or whoever
agreed that they could do this until I was calling people on the phone all hours of the night and making them come down to hear the noise themselves who's going to help us well ma'am listen i don't think that uh I understand your concern i really about my property listen I don't think behind
my house i don't think they're moving the pound in your area just to disrupt your life and if some if it's if have if you have a problem with it then you call you call the city you call the police excuse me as Chief um Giser in the room can you please help me out here a little
bit in terms of the reasoning why this is happening but I have to imagine that in the city of Bayon there has to be other spots you could put it where the current pound is people don't live there so there are warehouses so it's okay if you if they're up and doing whatever they want to do all night long you now
have a row of houses where we live there and pay taxes there i can't believe that there's nobody nowhere else in the city that you could put extra impound cars rather than in my backyard good evening council yes uh M mr the drafty is 100% correct if
you go down Hook Road we have outgrown our current impound yard uh we're maxed out um a lot of those cars you'll see they run from the KO property all along past the central garage along the S turn uh down past IMT many of those vehicles
are on uh private property or but private property some of which is critical infrastructure for the city um and Sharon believe me if I could sell them all in a day I would but unfortunately there's laws as to how long we have to hold cars uh as far as the pound on Second Street it's not
going to be it's for long-term storage we will not be going in and out at night you have my word on that uh any vehicles that go in and out would be Monday to Friday during the daytime hours i'm just curious if that changes though who do I complain to you can call me
yeah you know you have my number listen I I I I just want to weigh in on this and Miss Fusa I'll let my colleagues answer who do you call if they're in favor of it but I'm dead set against this i mean and I understand and chief I I absolutely understand what you're
saying i understand we've outgrown that space but I would think we would direct our director of planning and zoning to work with any of the industrial sites or any of these other sites that are coming online to at at worst rent us those spaces at best give us those empty
spaces around the city until uh something's being developed there or until such time as we get some other location councilman I can't speak to that all I can tell you is that is the that is the property that the city told us was available for an impound yard and that that's why we are we are using that
right and while this is not directed at you because you were told by someone in the city that this is the site to be used the councilman of the ward wasn't told and now offense has gone up people are here people are angry people I serve and again you were informed you you
didn't dictate so please understand where this is coming from but it's a little insulting to not I'm now caught off guard by this i certainly don't think it's the right use for that property mention was made to the scrapyard this is the second hit we're getting down there i've been haunting
the legal department with respect to that issue and I this is something that should part of the protocol should be when something is going to be done by the city where it's a matter of right the councilman of the ward as well as the atlarges should be notified i I
wasn't notified prior to this meeting like uh Councilman Booker was but the city should have told whoever told you should have told me and certainly should have told the council president right and I knew nothing about it until a resident actually contacted me and asked
me and and I knew nothing about this i I did reiterate that to you and I'm kind of a little upset that we passed an ordinance in 2019 and now what you're doing kind of goes against that nobody even brought that to the council's attention nobody sent us a memo nobody
sent anything about that i I can't speak to that i understand i understand that you're doing Sharon can you answer a question though no sharon you got to give us a chance please i just want to say because Mr um and probably it's
probably for Mr skillinger because um Mr booker said that it's city property we could do whatever we want it is actually on You said it's the city property we don't need Sharon please you you spoke already now let everybody else I just stepped aside answer your questions this is not going to go back and forth let
everybody answer the question that you you asked we're addressing what you asked no we're not going to go back and forth on this so the city don't have to abide by zoning we're not a public street they're converting point of clarification it's a right of way that the city controls it's a public street a
paper street and so we control we don't we don't Sorry it used to cars used to drive through there understood if that was I I think we were I don't maybe I probably wasn't born but me going to be 90 no and and then we were going to have the the the signs have this back and
forth we have other speakers going on right now i think I'm more upset that nobody even notified me nobody gave me any heads up at all uh obviously I'm not the council member for down there but as the president I like to have an overview of everything that's going on so moving
forward if if traffic or something's going to do that they could at least if they gave it to me and said distribute to the rest of the council which they've done a lot I would have done that understood so and whoever it was that dictated this I
would ask for a 30-day pause i would ask for a 30-day pause no further action down there and on top of that I would ask that we be provided options no matter how good or bad we be given some options to look at and chief before I
I've seen those cars parked down there um I lost some work even because you guys are parking on stuff that I used to cut okay and make some money on it but nevertheless um what happened that is it just an increase in cars or are we using the space for something else it's just
an increase in the last couple years really ever ever since co it seems like less and less cars on the street are being registered these days so we're impounded more cars and the information uh just for the record uh my statement was that the
information I got the city owns that property so therefore I mean there's there's justification in terms of the notifications to us I I agree with that but I didn't say the city can do whatever they want that's not what I meant I I would agree I would like to see a
pause so we get a chance at least to to look at this a little bit better And quite frankly nobody asked me if they know of another area and I might just have one but I need to look into that first but still wouldn't it be nice if you were asked for a suggestion i can't
believe that that in the in the process whatever however long this has been decided that there weren't three options to choose from graded from bad to worse i I can't believe there's only one choice and if it means allotting a
certain amount of funding uh to rent a space or to do something for that terminal amount of time I think that's better than imposing this on people's backyards and I think that's time to look into this that's that that's where it's going to end up the the choices we have the property at
um on 440 that's next to a property that is also vacant land uh the problem is in order to access it we have to go over the other party's property um the we looked at three sites three
Tommy three sites uh downtown uptown um and we there was no place that the city had control of the one place we thought about was down by where the buses the school board buses parked down by the by the you can't call it a windmill the the
statue that looks like a propeller um we could park it down below there but they wouldn't allow for that we couldn't put cars there um Tom I'm trying to think of the the the other site that we had that and then we look down by IMT uh on a
paper street down there but it turns out it's a point of access for uh it's an unnamed street as a matter of fact and but it it was a um it's the access point for two uh entities down there um well you're saying it's temporary isn't there
something down the old military base that could be leased or something for that nature that would be out of the public i think our goal is to go to one of the larger property owners in town because we need we know what kind of space we need to
um we'd have to rent property from them um I don't know what the rent's going to be but that that's really our only option right now short of getting some some land donated to us even the turnpike project is not going to start till 2026 and Marrist is just sitting there empty yeah but Maris is on but we
can go to the state we can ask Port authority owns the the area down the base they also own Marrist right so no it's a Tre Authority but but still it's worth having a discussion with them rather than putting people out and and ma'am just for the record when I did my
ride around if I forgot and I didn't see your property I apologize but but I did do a ride around twice to make myself familiar with what we were talking about in regards to this pound so I'm not disregarding where you live i understand you being a resident nobody wants to put you out and that's not our goal our goal
is to look after you so if I didn't see your property I apologize and Jay if you and and Tommy are looking at properties to do this don't you think you should at least inform the council of of what your intentions are even before you make a
decision given the amount of time that we've spent over the past two years looking at this and what we're up against two years that's even more insulting two two years this has been an issue for two years two years well then 30 days won't make
or break and in there should be a stop order action now it should take 30 days to come up with a potential fee structure to rent from one of these properties or is to use their property as an easement we should be provided that information by next month's meeting or take longer and decide whether or not
it is worth it to pay that fee that's that's a decision we should at least have the option to make chief you go with that and we do resolutions saying we're in favor of certain things we could do a resolution saying we're in favor of leasing or paying for and just off the
dome that you know if the overfl understood that there's a process for selling these cars and there's x number of them that are up for auction or x number of them that are up for destruction and those are may be the overflow ones perhaps some of the larger parking lots on the uh on the east side
of town for these shopping areas can all lot us if it's 50 cars perhaps they can allot us 50 spaces until such time as they're sold but with the vagory behind the uh limited time that this is just a this is only going to be limited but we
don't know limited to how much this is a scary proposition excuse me council President is there I'm just asking because everybody's in the room is there a master list of city-owned properties andor vacant
properties we'd have to get that i don't I don't have a list like that if you're asking me but I'm sure we could get one tax tax assessor's office can provide provide a list of city- owned properties um I've been through them and uh as far as vacant land I don't know i guess we
could we could see what's taxed as vacant land Mr vardo start the clock i'm sorry thank It's fine thank you so much uh Council President Council Councilman um that's what I came to speak about my dad wanted
to come but I'd rather him not get upset and come and come they live right behind her house really is the entrance one of the gates on Kennedy Boulevard it's right next to her h right next to to your house my dad lives four five houses
down from her right so we really when we saw this happening I was like wonder I thought it was part of the pro the Gamal project on the corner i thought it was part of that and then I as started asking and I reached out to you yesterday and you had you had no idea
what concerns me also is that you all did an ordinance to make that into something and there was going to be something else like um we were promised a nice walkway underneath the bridge deal yeah they used that as a staging area but the
intent was possible houses down the road and definitely a repaving i know that right and they were going to pave that and it was it was like little benches they they painted a nice picture and you guys passed that ordinance and then all of a sudden I text you I because I contact you a lot because you're my ward
and um and you're like I have no idea so they bypassed what you had the council had already setting the most is that right and it should be nothing no awareness at all and it and it should be that we that we found out about this and we're reaching out to you for hey what's
going on with this and you have no clue but even Lloyd you just found out yesterday yeah i found out because you spoke texted me you found out from a constituent too so yeah right so again don't forget that you what you what's being stated here too and I have to say
this and it might sound somewhat defensive but you're talking about 2019 i I wasn't here yeah but I'm talking to Gary because I'm talk I'm talking to council president i'm sorry Mr laooa everybody you could make you could weigh in on that on your opinion right
but yeah but um but I know I know council um president Laooa was here right um President Perez was here yeah uh Mr pres um Councilman Carol was here well you were here too for that one yes we were we were all here and it was it
was happy because it was going to be nice and then to find out that that's not happening right the building was happening the residents were all happy about it and the residents don't want to have more traffic they already have enough i'm down there every single day because my parents and pick up my sister
and there's buses already there's already cars all the time down there trucks from everything down there and now we add that right you know so if there's another place for it because that section is already and plus the construction that's happening at the at the movie theater at the movie studio
and the corner it's just a lot for that area my my colleagues and I we're going to try and look and see we're going to get that list and um see if there's another location that could be used we we we know the need we're agreeing with the need um we just don't think that
that might be the best area for it that area is very congested as it is and adding more to it is just not a good idea it's a residential area i want to see if we can get that in a either an industrial area or an out of the way area for the residents right thank you
so much council you're welcome and before we move on thank you for bringing it to our attention because without you we would have woke up one morning to an impound lot thank you so I appreciate it thank you okay 010 is an ordinance for
introduction it is an ordinance amending and supplementing the revised general ordinances of the city of Bay on chapter 19 fire prevention and protections and a resolution fixing Wednesday April 16th at 6 p.m in the Dart E harrington Council Chambers as a time and place for a public hearing and
final passage the resolution is moved by the council president Miss Weamemer will you second second on the resolution mr booker hi mr carol hi Mr perez hi Miss Weame hi Mr lapaloosa i 11 is amending
chapter 7 traffic and it is for restrictive parking zones it's adding one and deleting one and a resolution fixing Wednesday April 16th at 6 p.m in the Dart Earring Council Chambers as a time and place for public hearing and final passage moved by council member
Perez Miss Remo will you second second on the resolution mr booker Mr carol I Mr perez hi miss Weame hi Mr lopaloo hi 012 is amending the revised general ordinances of the city of BAM chapter 4
licensing registration and business regulations and a resolution moved by the council president fixing Wednesday April 16th at 6 p.m in the Dorothy E harrington Council Chambers as a time and place for public hearing and final passage mr carol will you second second
on the resolution mr booker hi mr carol hi mr perez hi miss Reamer I Mr lapaloosa i 13 is amending chapter 2 administration and a resolution moved by council member Perez fixing Wednesday
April 16th at 6 p.m in the Darthy E harrington Council Chambers as a time and place for public hearing and final passage who'd like to second second on the resolution Mr booker mr carol hi Mr perez hi Miss Weamer hi Mr lapaloosa
hi oh 14 is another ordinance amending chapter 2 administration and resolution fixing Wednesday April 16th as a time and place for a public hearing and final passage who' like to move it move it second
and on the resolution Mr booker hi Mr carol hi Mr perez hi Miss Weamer i Mr lapaloo i And communications is a resolution moved by the council as a whole and it is ordering the following communications to
be received and filed it covers C1 through C15 any questions on the communications and on the communications Mr booker hi Mr carol hi Mr perez hi Miss Weame hi Mr lapaloosa hi and officer reports is also
moved by the council as a whole it is a resolution ordering the following officers reports to be received and filed and any resolutions incorporated within to be adopted it covers O1 through O R7 any questions on the officer's report and on the officer's reports Mr
booker hi Mr carol hi Mr perez hi Miss Weame hi Mr lapaloosa uh I just want to welcome Miss Desmond as our new business administrator and Mr blake to the library board of trustees thank you thank you very much
now vote I and consent resolutions is moved by the council as a whole it orders the resolutions to be uh to be adopted to cover CR1 through CR30 any questions on the consent resolutions
this one okay and on the remaining communic uh consent resolutions Mr booker I Mr carol I Mr perez I Miss We Mr i
Okay cr 29 is authorizing the mayor andor his designate to apply for and obtain the grant from the New Jersey Department of Community Affairs for approximately $2 million for a city of Bon food pantry
study i just have a question you know and you see these things a lot for studies and it's like $2 million would feed a lot of people and this is to study how to feed them i'm just curious i I
how do you how do you use a fork you know Mike I I can tell you we we got we got an email from the state you didn't apply for your um your grant so I I called the guy from the state and said "Okay what
is this grant about?" And he didn't exactly know he's the guy asking me to submit submit the grant turns out that it was part of a budget allocation at the state and it originally came from the county to perform a study and then to once a study is implemented to
actually identify sites to to purchase and to to make permanent food pantry uh um facilities so that we'd have one central repository i think it's here and Donna Union City there's another
municipality in Hudson County so Miss Mau and I have spent the past month or so trying to discern what exactly we're asking for and what it's what it is actually for and I would say at about 3:00 today we finally got clarity that it is quite frankly the guy
I told the guy from the state if it's $2.5 million for the study I'll do the study okay so it's more than that it's a study and then once the study identifies this is what your issues are here's how we think we can solve them then you go to the next part and you would identify
a property uh or two and you would locate um the the food pantry there and I think they already have an idea as to who would uh administrate the the food pantry if they don't it it's a limited number of groups that would qualify uh
but this is the beginning stage of it we're just putting the application in i'll know more uh we'll all know more once this study takes place and we get some documentation to support it but right now it's a budget item for I think a total of $5 million at the state level
uh in uh I think it's in Will Samson's budget uh allocated to to to to study this but it is not just for a study that's part of it but two and a half million me and you we going Thank you
and RCR 29 mr booker hi Mr carol hi Mr perez hi Miss Beamer hi Mr lapaloosa he stepped away he is absent from the chambers okay so we're moving on to R1 is approving
the temporary emergency appropriation number three in the calendar year 2025 budget who'd like to move it second and on the resolution Mr booker hi Mr carol hi Mr perez hi Miss Weamer
hi and Mr lapaloo is absent at present okay r2 is designating for Cottage Street LLC as the redeveloper of the property located at 80-84 East 25th Street which is identified as block 442 lot 14 as shown on the official tax map
and authorizing the preparation of a redevelopment agreement who'd like to move it second okay before we move forward the blurb says um preparation of redevelopment agreement it should be for the execution we already approved the preparation a while ago so the the blurb
might be wrong but the resolution is correct so it's execution yeah electric chair would like to second second and on the resolution Mr booker mr carol
hi mr perez I Miss We Mr lapaloo i R three is moved by the council president and is designating 101 12-1022 Holding LLC as the redeveloper of the property located at 1012-1022 Avenue C which is identified
as block 64 lots 2 and three as shown on the fixal tax map and it's authoriz authorizing the negotiation and preparation of a redevelopment agreement mr perez will you second second on that resolution mr booker hi
Mr carol hi Mr perez hi Miss Weame hi Mr lapaloosa i R four is designating Kennedy Boulevard MW Urban Renewal LLC as the redeveloper of the property located at
361-373 Kennedy Boulevard which is identified as block 262 lot 7 8 and 9 and short authorizing the negotiation and preparation of a redevelopment agreement it's moved by council member Perez mr lapaloosa will you second
second on the resolution mr booker hi mr carol hi mr perez hi missur hi mr laaloosa i r five is designating Broadway Partners NES LLC as the redeveloper of
the property located at 11-13 West 19th 431-437 Broadway and 10-12 West 20th Street which is identified as block 222 lots 18 23 24 and 26 as shown on the official tax map and authorizing the
negotiation and preparation of a redevelopment agreement it's moved by the council president Mr booker will you second second on the resolution mr booker hi mr carol hi mr perez hi miss Wever Mr laalooa hi
r six authorizing the city and the property owners at 653-663 Broadway which is identified as block 158 lots 22 23 and 24 as shown on the official tax map and of the
city to enter into the funding agreement in connection with the redevelopment of the property pursuant to the local redevelopment and housing law resolution's moved by the council president Mr perez will you second second all right i I've asked Mr to come up and explain a little bit about this to us can we just clarify is
it 653-63 or 657 our agenda says 657 i have 657 the property address 657-63 Broadway
so um the terms of the uh funding agreement uh last year we put in front of the c I put in front of the council uh which was voted upon the funding uh sources for the escro agreements while it's a practice that we've put in
uh our redevelopment agreements were frontloading now uh again to cover the area need study to cover the redevelopment plans so there is no uh cost uh burdened on the uh taxpayer and the city budget this is all entirely funded through uh the developers this is
formalizing the city of actually being in receipt of the money uh for escrow to cover the city's professional cost on the drafting of the redevelopment plans that's what the we have an interim funding agreement interim cost agreement for the area need study and the uh um the redevelopment plan financial
agreement redevelopment agreement the whole process of it this is just papering up the fact that the city at the end of the day will get a check that check will be deposited in a trust account and you know will be used uh to uh cover uh the city's uh consulting
costs you know for our professionals so John W Joe Bowman Andy Riel uh Rob Russo costs are covered all the costs are covered that's what this is for otherwise in the past we've you know put it into the redevelopment agreement but by that point you've already gone
through the redevelopment plan you've already gone did the area need study you're talking about a redevelopment agreement already so again the costs were you know being either floated by the city which you know we put a stop to that uh and then the second thing is
then you know we also would you know ask for a check and not really have a paper uh trail to uh show um you know the funding sources so this helps clear up the process you know it's a new process implemented so you're going to see a lot
more as new projects come in and as we get a redevelopment application it's an exhibit that they have to submit to the city uh for uh again for the funding and then we can you know accept the money along with the W9 and the other requirements
we're supposed to do thank you sure thank you very much and on R six Mr booker hi Mr carol hi Mr perez hi Miss Weame hi Mr lapaloosa hi r seven is determining the form and
other details of the note relating to the con construction financing loan program of the New Jersey Infrastructure Bank to be issued in in the aggregate principal amount of up to $13 million providing for the issuance and sale of such note to the New Jersey Ibank and
authorizing the execution and delivery of such note by the city in favor of the New Jersey Infrastructure Bank all pursuing to the New Jersey Infrastructure Bank construction financing loan program would like to move it move it second
on that resolution Mr booker i Mr carol hi mr perez hi miss Weame hi mr laloosa i r eight is authorizing the Department of Public Works to purchase playground equipment from MRC Inc estate contract
vendor for the 11th Street Oval Park Buddy Baseball for the amount not to exceed $265,36284 would like to move it so move second and on the resolution Mr booker I Mr
carol I Mr perez I Miss We Mr lapalooa I R nine authorizes a contract award 24 cleanup for roadway improvements to Broadway phase 2 for an amount not to exceed $1,846 924245
a move second and um I spoke to director Carter and um this is for the second phase of repaving on Broadway it'lls also include um some other improvements some line striping
and uh did you want to add to that it's line striping paving um what else curb something with the curbs right not curbs handicap ramps oh handicap ramps all All the handicap ramps will be updated in that area and we're talking about
40 I believe phase one ended at 42nd or 40 41st so we're going to pick up from there and go down to 19th and then we are going to do a portion from Cottage Street to 10th Street okay
and I believe there'll be another phase after that to complete Broadway right i mean uh there's um the section between 10th and 12th in that area there um and then probably from 19th down that was paved I believe
in 2014 okay we went from 19th down to 12th so it's not I mean it's getting older it's not bad but in a few more years it will start to deteriorate couple bad winters so so then it's not there is no phase
three this will complete pretty much Broadway because we did um parts of uh Broadway downtown uh back in it's hard to remember like when it was done i believe 20 2018 uh
2021 I believe we did you know when we had little sections that went seven or eight blocks we went from first to I believe fifth and then there was a portion from fifth to cottage so okay thank you director that should finish
off uh Broadway but it was all done at different times so on R9 Mr booker hi Mr carol hi Mr perez hi Miss Weamer i Mr lapalooa
i 10 is awarding a contract to Bayon Bay site for Bayon Bay site preparation peninsula at Bayon Harbor 3 to the Ambient Group of Williamsburg New Jersey for a contract amount of $423,000
um I'll move that and I'm very happy to see that we finally got a a bid approved and ready to go because I know um I don't think we had anybody bid the first time around so it's nice to see that this is going to finally be done dirty
dirt is going to be removed second and on the resolution Mr booker hi mr carol hi mr perez hi missur hi mr lapaloosa i going to move R1 is for close session
are we no close session no close session so we will remove that r12 and several of the resolutions are actually are not on the agenda they're on as reserved spaces so the first one
is going to be R12 and this is for a agreement with Beacon Planning and Consulting LLC for professional planning services in connection with developers and redevelopers for an amount not to exceed $25,000 for a period commencing March
19th through December 31st 2025 move it second and on that one Mr booker hi Mr carol hi Mr perez i Miss Weamer i Mr lapaloosa i
art sorry 12 r 13 is authorizing and directing the mayor and city clerk to execute an agreement with Beacon Planning and Consulting LLC for professional planning service in connection with developers and redevelopers for an amount not to exceed $200,000 for a period commencing March
19th through December 31st 2025 move it second Mr booker hi Mr carol hi Mr perez hi Miss Weame hi Mr lapaloo i
14 is amending the existing contract with Beacon Planning and Consultants LLC for special professional planning services for planning issues with the city of Baleum to continue from the period this March 19th for total amount
commencing March 19th for a total amount not to exceed $200,000 you'd like to move it so move second on the resolution mr booker hi mr carol
hi mr pres hi missur hi mr lapaloosa hi is authorizing and directing the mayor and city clerk to execute an agreement with Clark Kaitton and Hints for professional planning services in connection with developers and redevelopers for a period of one year
commencing January 1 through December 31st 2025 for an amount not to exceed $25,000 move it on a resolution mr booker hi Mr carol hi Mr perez hi Miss Weame hi Mr lapaloosa
hi 16 is authorizing the mayor and city clerk to enter into an agreement with Matrix New World Engineering for professional engineering services for engineering issues within
the city of Bayon on in connection with developers and redevelopers for a period of one year commencing January 31st through December 31st 2025 for an amount not to exceed $200,000 who would like to move it move it second 16 mr booker hi mr carol hi mr
perez hi missur hi mr lapaloosa hi 17 is authorizing and directing the mayor and city clerk to execute an agreement with Matrix New World Engineering for professional engineering services in connection with the city for a period of one year commencing January
1st through December 31st 2025 for a total contract amount not to exceed $200,000 move it 17 on that when Mr booker Mr carol hi Mr perez hi Miss Weamer hi
Mr lapaloosa i our 18 is authorizing the mayor and city clerk to and directing them to execute it agreement with Waterman LLC for professional engineering services in connection with developers and redevelopers for a period commencing May
16 2025 through December 31st 2025 for a contract amount not to exceed $150,000 move it second and on that one Mr booker hi Mr carol hi Mr perez hi Miss Weamer hi Mr lapaloo hi
19 is authorizing and directing the mayor and city clerk to execute an agreement with Waterman LLC for special planning engineering services uh for engineering services within the city of Bon for a period of one year commencing January 1st through December
31st 2025 for an amount not to exceed $250,000 and I believe this is actually on behalf of the developers and redevelopers repeat that one more time this is for developer escrow $250,000 contract
it's possibly one of your ads it's just not numbered because I got them late i'm putting it out there would like to move it move it and second and on the resolution Mr
booker hi Mr carol hi Mr perez hi Miss Weamer hi Mr lapalooa i Now we are off to the ads first one is from the Honorable James M davis reappointing Eduardo Feranti Jr as the emergency management
coordinator for a term to expire March 4th 2028 move second and on that one Mr booker hi Mr carol hi Mr perez hi
Miss Weamer hi Mr lapaloosa i two is authorizing the execution of a change order for agreement number CY220281 with Union Paving and Construction Company in the amount of 157,720120 thereby making the total
contract 3,542,828.71 second on that resolution mr booker hi mr carol hi mr perez hi miss Reamer hi mr lapaloosa hi three is authorizing the incorporation
of changes to the redevelopment plan titled 15 Agnes Street redevelopment plan for the property located 15 Agnes Street which is identified as block 232 lot 10 as shown on the official tax map of the city we're going to pull that one pull that one
ad four is authorizing the execution of a redevelopment agreement with Bayon Partners Urban Renewal LLC for the redevelopment of prop the property identified as block 830 lots 1 2.01 2.02 3.01 3.02 4.01 4.02 as shown on the
official tax map of the city do we know what that property is no this is the Wasim Boret property this is uh in connection with the dirty dirt this is
the property yes did do we did we did he close on that property does he officially own it or we approve things we took No we took in we took Remember a while ago we had the bids we went out for bid to get the uh
dirty dirt moved okay they came in they came in higher than uh we had expected so the developer now is going to provide us with an uh an additional infusion of capital so that we can retain the lowest responsible bidder to move the dirt well
we did that today yes yeah that was ambient group right right but that so this is now already authorizing a redevelopment agreement this is to fund that there's a paper trail so that when the title company closes they can see how funds you know on the HUD statement
came into the city of Bayon so so we're going to take in X amount of funds and that that number changed from X to X plus Y and this allows for a funding agreement to be signed for one of a better term uh so that we're all in conssonance about what the terms of of
the transaction are and all this all this does is approve that financial agreement nothing else the funding agreement the funding source of 200 where the money is coming to clean up the soil yes nothing nothing other than
that like to move it and on that one Mr booker hi mr carol hi mr perez hi missur hi mr lapaloosa hi and I have an ordinance for introduction
it is a capital ordinance providing for construction of and improvements to the portion of the Hudson River walkway walk waterfront walkway in the portion of the city known as the peninsula and appropriating $3,500,000 therefore authorized in and
by the city of Bayon in the county of Hudson New Jersey and a resolution fixed in Wednesday April 16th as a time and place for a public hearing and final passage so just to explain to the council quickly on this um on this ordinance this is allowing for a funding
source uh to provide for the walkway so while developers uh have contributed like prologus uh Bayon energy center uh to continue the Hudson River walkway uh because the city is in receipt of the money the only way
how we can expend the money if there's a bond uh a budget item or a capital ordinance um while this this is not you know this is not taxpayer money this is the property owners paying for because they cannot put the walkway on their
site on Constable Hook they have to build uh elsewhere this allows um a legal mechanism for the city to actually expend the funds to construct the walkway on other properties right so it's not awarding a contract tonight no it's just the capital ordinance to spend
the money yes to spend the money that we've collected from private developers um pursuant to a state statute okay although normally we would normally we would do this through a redevelopment agreement there's no redevelopment agreement because this is by statute so this is one of the oddities you know
I've had you know we put in front of the council before the resolution accepting money um this is now the ordinance to now go spend the money to finish out the walkway so that there's continuous walkway on MPY and that was grant money correct
developer money develop and Yeah and Hudson County open space yes the grant on that but Prol just gave us 2.3 million bon energy center gave us a couple hundred thousand too because they couldn't build the walkway on their site so who'd like to move it move it second
on the resolution mr booker hi mr carol hi mr perez hi missur hi mr lapaloosa hi that is all I have mr cley do you have anything additional you have anything else is he here
mr coffee says no he has nothing do you have something miss business administrator so with that I will take a motion to adjourn and on the motion Mr booker mr carol
no you're moving you're eyeing I miss Mr perez miss Weame Mr palooa uh everybody have a happy and healthy Earth okay see you didn't know what I was
going to say did you so we'll see you before Easter and Passover so good night everybody i vote I