e e e e e e and call to order the August 5th 2024 Bayport city council meeting let's all stand for the pledge
allegiance pledge allegiance to the FL of the United States of America to the rep for it stands one nation God indivisible with liy and justice for allk you Matt will you please call the
RO council member Gilmore here council member dah here council member Hill here mayor Hansen here and H's um out tonight she is we will miss her all
right um do we have a motion to approve tonight's agenda agenda I move to approve the agenda as presented thanks Katie second thank you
John all right all those in favor I opposed all right so the agenda starts with the proclamations accommodations petitions and announcements the July recycling award recipient recipients are Jason and Katie
Monroe at 1117 planners path and they're going to be awarded for their recy efforts with a grant from Washington County hey another Planning Commission member thanks all right um night two night is going to be happening tomorrow
night at Lakeside Park I know um officer leowski is here she's been working real hard to make a super fun event so I hope to see everyone out there um starts at 5: and ends at 8 are we doing a a raffle and a drawing and everything again like
usual all right super fun and there'll be free Pizza free food of something yeah other foods and then um we will have a DJ so and a DJ how fun is that that's a new change party all right this really this
is kind of far up hopeful people can hear me okay and then now we're going to um do the oath of office for our new police officer Dustin perper oh we say we could pull in maybe one or two chairs
otherwise you will be able to watch on a TV out there in the lobby okay as long as we can squeeze in I don't is there like a capacity limit we have to have for is Allen going to get mad at us if we load it up can't block the yeah just don't block the
entrance way we could maybe get another chair over one right here right in front oh yeah right way Dan here come on up Kathleen and sorry I saw your name is wrong in the not yet we're going to we're going to get the police officers horn in here
all right and so do you do that Chief I don't know is the crowd ready that's the question hopefully um I'll just do a quick uh bio for Dustin here L
may know him so Dustin uh comes to us with seven years of law enforcement experience we're super fortunate to have him here um he actually worked as a police officer here uh many years ago uh for 2 years and then his past 5 years has been with the Carver County
Sheriff's Department um kind of the Stars really aligned with us uh kind of coming into contact with each other and the right time and we were able to uh get Dustin to join the team um he is local to Washington County growing up in Oakdale um he had a passion for sports
playing hockey baseball uh soccer Hockey being his number one sport I agree um Dustin currently lives in the North Metro with his girlfriend Michaela four years uh Dustin had an interest in law enforcement at a young age he was a Washington County Sheriff's Office uh
Explorer he then decided he wanted to work on cars so he went to school to become a mechanic um and then worked in the private sector for some time doing some different jobs and then well he was working uh full-time he got his uh two-year degree in law enforcement
through Inver Hills College and that's where he came into contact with us the first time and it became one of our reserves here that was back in 2012 and then he was hired as a part-time officer in 2013 and was with us uh until 2015 and he left to go back to the
pirate private sector for a short time and then uh ended up getting hired at uh Carver County for the full-time deputy sheriff's position and has been there ever since and then he returned to us now um which we're very fortunate I'm very happy you decided to join the team
and I'm excited to see uh what you bring to our team so that being said um mayor if you want to come swear Dustin in and you come up swearing the this is my first EXC okay that's good all right
nice to see you again nice to see you come closer to yeah good idea okay I Dustin perer do solemnly swear I Dustin perer do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States and of the state of Minesota
that I will support the Constitution of the United States in the state of Minnesota and Fa Faithfully discharge the duties of the officer office of Peace officer of the city of bport is that too
many and will Faithfully discharge the duties of the officer of police officer of the city of Bayport in the county of Washington in the county of Washington and state of Minnesota in state of Minnesota to the best of my judgment and ability
to the best of my judgment and ability so help me God so help me God all right that's it congratulations [Applause] look so nice to have him back all right thank you guys for all
that now we'll probably have some empty seats yeah anyone wants to move in or around go ahead okay um next is our open Forum this is a portion of the meeting to address the city council on subjects
that are not a part of the agenda city council may take action or at the time of the statement or we may give direction to staff regarding investigation of comments expressed total of 15 minutes is alloted for public comment during the open forum and uh we do have a couple people that
actually are on the list first so we'll have them come up and one the first one is it says Katherine hus but I know that that's not her real name it's Kathleen so come on up Kathleen with Community thread all right well good evening mayor
Hansen and Council City Council Members my name is Kathleen Hess and I'm the director of development and Communications at Community thread thank you for the opportunity to share how Community threads work adds value and makes a difference in the lives of residents living in Bayport and
surrounding areas Community thread's mission is to maximize resources and engage volunteers to improve the quality of life for adults and families in our community the organization began in 1967 when a group of concerned citizens
mobilized volunteers to help people no longer able to drive with rides to obtain Medical Care leveraging volunteers around unmet Community needs continues to inform our work today we serve older adults and adults with
disabilities who need support to remain active and independent and volunteers looking to or looking for Meaningful opportunities to make a difference in their community our impact of community building uh is through two core areas
our volunteer Center and our Thrive program our volunteer centers programs engage people of all ages for individuals groups and organizations seeking to serve the community in 2023 over, 1300 individuals employees
students and families volunteered for our s signature service initiatives spring into Service river rally and holiday hope this year we launched our teacher kits initiative aimed to provide essential school supplies for first year
classroom teachers in the stowater area school district and help them start the year off well equipped we're excited to meet these new Educators next week and help them get started with some additional support from our generous Community currently we know that one of
the most significant issues in Washington County is assisting older adults age and thrive in place in their homes and in the areas in which they live we are meeting this need thanks to thrive at Community thread this program offers social events and excursions
Wellness activities Transportation home services and volunteer opportunities with the goal of keeping our neighbors socially connected while living independently and safely in their homes at this time Thrive serves 208 members
12 of whom live in Bayport we're actually finding that Bayport is a location of High need so far this year 61 roundtrip rides have been provided to Bayport residents which is actually 21% of all the rides we provided so far
this year we're also working hard so that thrive can help more residents than ever before in doing so we are looking to expand the transportation component of Thrive to residents living in Northern Washington County to continue to schedule and promote new activities
with member input and to explore and launch new program benefits such as the solo agers group meeting the needs of those without children or family members to provide support as part of Thrive members may visit our Stillwater
location and our Bayport Senior Center last year we had nearly 6,000 visits from older adults to these centers these buildings are welcoming places for older adults to gather and enjoy playing cards participate in fitness programs and practice creative skills like learning
how to make personalized greeting cards in addition adults over 50 res uh receive support to remain independent and participate in community life through activities and volunteer opportunities to stay connected and reduce isolation these opportunities
allow many social connections that provide real health benefits to older adults as I mentioned Community thread has location in Bayport right inside the White Pine building on fth Avenue North at that site we have the ideal space to
offer things like aerobics taiichi many craft classes as well as a foot care specialist Community thread also serves as a leader in providing resources for other unmet needs we offer free tax preparation Services through our
partnership with the AARP tax assistance program we collaborate with the United Way of Washington County East for Stuff the bus a school supply Drive serving students in the stowater area school district of course that's happening right now and we also provide community
meeting space for groups such as alcoholics anonymous and we host fear for-all a monthly program offering lowcost groceries to the public Community thread is an independent nonprofit and every year we need to raise our entire budget about 80% of our
funding comes from Grants and contributions and the other 20% is Supply in part by municipalities including Stillwater Oak Park Heights Aton Bayport Baytown Township and Stillwater Township we appreciate the
long-standing support we have received from the city of Bayport and today I'm requesting $3500 to support our general operations in 2025 as you can see the collective impact of community threads programs creates a healthier safer and more
connected St Cy Valley Community in a moment I'll Prov provide each of you with a copy of our most recent newsletter the connector thank you for your time this evening and considering my request may I answer any questions well I know a lot about Community thread so I don't have any
questions but anyone else curious about anything it was very thorough you did a great job thank you thank you um and Kathleen's actually a resident of Bayport too in case you didn't know that 19 years 19 years this month so um so we
should be talking about that at some point this is something we've done every year but we yeah I don't know anything about how much we've given in the past exactly and I think this is an increase maybe it was 3,000 in the past but anyways so we'll talk about that y thank
you for coming thank you for having me great and um let's see Jill Smith the director of our wonderful Library wants to speak to us hi mayor Hansen City Council Members thank you so much for having me my name is still Smith I'm the director at the Bayport public library
and I'm here today to talk about our new strategic plan um I think that was sent to you along with a big long learning report I don't expect you to read all of that but I'm excited to share some of our new thoughts of what we're going to do um
when we completed our remodel last year the library board and I thought it was important to really take a deep dive um and ask our community what what they want to see happen in our beautiful new space so we worked with a consultant on a new strategic plan for the next three years we began our work last fall last
November I think was our kickoff we created a survey for patrons we did individual interviews and then the library board and Library staff had a retreat in April to review those findings one thing I want to highlight from that big long learning report is that
93.2 6% of our residents were very satisfied or satisfied with current Library service that's a great number um so I think we are doing a good job but we want to do even better we want to get that to 100% um as the board staff and I
reviewed the data and looked at the library landscape two words kept coming up connect and empowers those were the two words that we took forward in reworking um our strategic plan we took our existing mission statement and we rewrote it into a statement of purpose
and that uh statement is we invite our community to explore share and Learn by engaging with Library resources programs and each other we see the library as a place for the community where residents can just be you don't have to buy
anything to come in and use our services um you can explore and learn about whatever you want you can use our computers for whatever you want um you can learn from the resources that the library Cates and from programs that we host and it's a place where
community members can come together and learn Lear from each other and share ideas and information um so like I said uh our two main um pillars of our strategic plan are connect and empower the first is to connect meaning to connect the community
to our library um connect residents to programs connect residents to resources that make a difference in their lives searching for jobs um finding those forums they need um engaging with um government um connect ING with Partners
in the community to bring those needed resources to our residents connecting with Partners like Community thread um to bring their great services to our residents um and then also connecting with other libraries to ensure that we're following best practices and we're efficiently sharing resources um with
libraries across the state and the second is Empower so what we mean by that is um providing resources and programs that allow people to empower themselves um the great thing about the public library is it's up to you you can come in and find out about whatever you
want and use that to change your life um and also from a city perspective we want to provide more support to empower our library staff so that they're um providing our patrons with the services that they need giving them training um making sure they know about all the
resources that are available so that they can share that with our community um our library use has rebounded from the dips of Co those were some dark sad times in the library and our constru project um it was hard to uh have limited Services during that time
but we ended up with a beautiful new space we've just had a very busy summer um probably the busiest summer actually since I've been there since 2016 um and we're looking forward to uh serving a lot of community members in the coming year um as always I welcome
input from the council and patrons um City residents who um may not be Library users yet um what they would like to see at the library so I'm always always open to exploring new Partnerships with Community groups local nonprofits local businesses um anything that we can do to serve our residents better um one of our
big goals is to increase our visibility so look for us on more social media Platforms in the next year or two uh we have a community Jewel our library is just such a lovely space and we want to share it with everyone um thank you so much for your time do you have any questions about the library or Library
services for me at this time no I want to just commend you on the job that you're doing I think you're an awesome Library director and I'm we're I'm very happy to have you I hope imagine everyone else agrees but you do
a wonderful job to hear it's good to hear we're on a good trajectory and um yeah we just want to we want everyone to feel welcome um to come and use our library yeah it's it's a very welcoming place and the the survey tells you that you know it's it's great and all the programming that you do and you also are
a great partner with um the Bayport community league and all the we got great things plann for Derby days events you do Derby Days Etc so thank you so much and thanks for bringing this to us it it's quite a a comprehensive study that was done so
um people should yeah take take a look at it in the packet if you want to read more about it so all right yeah great well thank you so much I'll let you move on to the main event all right lots of Main Events yeah thank you all right anyone else like to come up for the open
Forum no we're probably past 15 minutes um yeah you come on up Phil I know we talked before the meeting and he said it's actually on the agenda but he might come during the open Forum instead was such a sizable group I'm not feeling
self-conscious about bumping in but I'll make this uh short and sweet okay given the last meeting um which probably wasn't the smoothest meeting that you've had in the course of the council meetings um I've kind of interjected
myself into the process and I have uh proposed to the people that are involved to have more of a collaborative effort so I'm going to ask for a delay till next time so then people can come together coordinate some of the documentation that they have actually
get it to you on time can you have first reference I mean we I know what you're referring to chapter 25 the chapter 25 Amendment okay just want to make sure and then did we need to get his address for the record as well 5 Lake Street South all right thank you Phil you're
welcome well and you know it's Phil Sor right did you say that part oh Phil Sor 24 years I figures everybody knows me for bad well you know we got to be for the record for okay thank you so I'm
hoping that uh as I've mentioned Michelle that uh I see this less as a transactional event and maybe more as a way of improving improving some relationships uh that I think need to be
shorted up just a little bit so uh the goal will be to have it done by the next council meeting and um it would consolidate and organize some of the information that's out there and I'm fully aware that some people made promises to documentation and they were
not delivered I passed through and listened to some of the stories so would that be okay we're not going to answer that at this point we'll talk about it when we get to that point on the agenda but we take in
your consideration right now okay and talk about it later thank you all right any other Podium [Music] takers okay we'll move on to the consent agenda
um I is it easier for me to just make the small am uh Matt and I talked about the contribution to the Historical Society item number 11 um didn't have a dollar value associated with it so I'm just going to suggest that I believe 350 was the
minimum that they had suggested so just I'll read that into it when I read it if unless anyone has any objections to that no okay all right uh we're going to consider resolution adopting items 1 through 15 the July 1st 2024 city
council Workshop minutes the July 1st 2024 city council and planning commission joint meeting minutes July 1st 2024 city council regular meeting minutes July 29th city council Workshop minutes and the July 29th city council special meeting minutes July payables
and receipts July building Plumbing mechanical and Zoning permits report an application for an off sale liquor license from L lii Bayport liquor LLC for operations at 102 thirr Street
North health and wellness policy for the police department request from the Bayport Community Action League to post signage at Barker's Alps and perel park for Derby Days contribution to Washington County Historical Society of $350 to support
services and programs special event application from St Charles Church for Fall Festival at Peril Park on September 15th City participation in the pink patch project for cancer
awareness purchase of a replacement Duty vehicle for the fire department and an application and T tuition fee for Michelle Hansen that's me to participate in the greater Stillwater area Chamber leadership in the valley
cohort um do we have a motion to approve the consent agenda I'll move to adopt the resolution approving the consent agenda as presented okay I second all right thanks Ethan and Katie a roll call vote and I was told
it's okay for me to council member Gilmore hi council member dah hi council member Hill hi mayor Hansen I all right move on to public hearings we're going to um now review a concept development plan for the construction of
new the new Anderson Elementary School located at 13 5th Avenue North in Baytown Township adjacent to Barker's El Park in Bayport submitted by Stillwater area public schools and Dan lick is here
from the planning company to present the item good evening mayor council members and staff as well as everyone in attendance this evening uh ISD 834 is uh doing planning work for development of a new elementary school that would house approximately 600 students and 100 staff
on a 10 Acre Site just west of Bakers elps Park um so the purpose of tonight's meeting if we want to go to the screen projector um is to have an initial conversation and review of what's being planned for the site uh this is being
done in advance of formal development applications required for the project uh basically giving City staff an opportunity to review uh what the school district and their Consultants are putting together in terms of plans for compliance with uh the city code code uh
providing opportunity for other government agencies that would be involved in this including Washington County and the Middle St Croy watershed management organization to review the plans with the hopes of identifying any issues on a preliminary basis that they can be corrected before those formal applications come forward and then also
just provide General feedback as to the acceptability of the plans that have been developed um the public hearing tonight is something that's not required by the city code uh but it is done so that there is transparency with uh the Planning Commission the city council the school district as well as all of those
interested in how this site would be developed uh by the school district to serve both uh the city of Bayport as well as the school district uh in their shared constituencies it's also important to note that there's no decision being made tonight by the city council and none's
requested uh this is really informal feedback required or being provided to the school district on their development plans if they do proceed uh forward as expected with uh formal application to develop the site there would be additional hearings held by the Planning Commission to consider those
applications as well as there's jurisdictional approvals also needed to move forward to actual construction uh so the site is 10 acres located along Fifth Avenue North uh just on the south side of the road across from the Bayport fire department close to the Stage Coach
Trail uh intersection the property is owned by the school district they acquired it from the previous owner that had used it for outdoor recreation purposes uh it's undeveloped otherwise and it is also located currently in Baytown Township surrounding uses again you have the fire department and
correctional facility on the north side of Fifth Avenue uh Barker's Alps Park uh to the east of the site and then two properties in Baytown Township to the West uh both developed with single family homes the larger Anderson property which is uh the most contiguous
to the property was previously proposed for annexation and development but that project did not move forward the application that would be included uh for the school district to develop the property with a new elementary school would include an annexation from Baytown Township to the
city of Bayport uh we'd have to amend the city's 2040 comprehensive plan uh to include the property within the municipal urban service area as well as designate a future land use on the land use plan element of the document uh the property because it's outside of the
city is not zoned um by the city of Bayport so it would need to be designated as to an R2 single Urban family uh single family Urban district and then School uses are allowed by the zoning ordinance in that zoning District subject to approval of a conditional use
permit the property as it currently stands as an unplatted parcel meaning it's defined by a written description of its boundaries uh we'd have it platted as part of this development process which would provide opportunity to also dedicate right of way for uh the county road on the north side of the property
so in terms of the presentation that I'm doing tonight uh we're going to kind of Chang this from the format that we used previously for sketch Plan reviews I'm just going to give an overview of the processes involved and then we'll have the school district and their representatives present their project and uh be the first to address any
questions or comments uh either from the council Planning Commission or public um so to the annexation process um the council's previously reviewed this with regards to the Anderson property but uh under Minnesota statute it's a property that's less than 120 acres in contiguous
to the city boundary uh that's not current ly served by utilities can be annexed by adoption of an ordinance uh if the property owner petitions uh which we do have in this case uh the process in involves notice to Baytown Township and the directly abing Property Owners
uh there would be a public hearing held at the Planning Commission uh then that recommendation is forwarded to the city council which would consider an ordinance formally annexing the property and that ordinance if adopted would be effective upon approval by the state's administrative law judge uh the criteria
for annexation are outlined uh basically that the area is about to become Urban or Suburban development of a school is obviously an urban land use um the the municipal government uh is needed to provide for public health safety or welfare uh and really the the interest
there is provision of utilities to the property for the proposed school and being that Bayport is positioned to provide those Services it's in the best interest of the area the city's comprehensive plan again there's two elements uh to address here the first is
the municipal urban service area or Musa as it's called in short these are areas established by the Metropolitan Council where sanitary sewer and water utilities are provided to allow for Urban Development uh this property because it was outside of the city of Bayport was
not included in the Musa with the most recent comprehensive Plan update but it was identified as a potential service area recognizing that there are Utilities in the area with capacity that could serve this property as well as the two adjacent properties within Baytown Township if those property owners
petitioned for annexation and service U so again process-wise the Planning Commission would hold the public hearing to consider the application to amend the comprehensive plan that recommendation would come forward to the council for a preliminary approval here's another jurisdictional uh approval required by
Metropolitan Council to formally amend the comprehensive plan and then it comes back to the city council again for final action likewise with regard 's the land use plan because this property is not in the city we didn't anticipate what it could be developed as U public uses are
also not specifically guided on the future land use plan in terms of new facilities uh it's difficult to anticipate what may be needed in the future and in the case of the school district it requires a completely separate process to identify properties that would be suitable for their facilities so we haven't planned these
in advance but there are policies that direct uh how these requests are to be considered and what sites would be appropriate uh this site would meet the uh requirements being adjacent to existing public property access from a minor collector County roadway uh to
provide access and with utilities available uh and obviously the school district has identified the need to provide for a new school to serve uh not only Bayport but the balance of the school district for uh elementary students the zoning map uh based on the
comprehensive plan guiding the property for institutional uses to accommodate the school uh the proposal would be to Zone the property R2 District the same as the existing Anderson School uh these school facilities are allowed by conditional use which is basically it's a use that's allowed under the zoning ordinance but
requires a higher level of scrutiny by the Planning Commission and city council as to the acceptability of the use based on performance standards established by the zoning ordinance or compatibility with surrounding land uses and the infrastructure's ability to accommodate so primarily looking at traffic and also
uh U IL capacity same process as with the comprehensive plan Amendment public hearing held by the Planning Commission final action by the city council no additional jurisdictional review is required then to the site specific development itself uh basically looking
at the site and building plans under the conditional use permit application uh the city is reviewing these plans from the standpoint of these items listed on the screen uh with particular emphasis on uh the access uh the school district has provided a traffic study estimating
the traffic generation and peak times of demand uh and activity on the site and how those relate to surrounding roadways um that traffic study is not only subject to City Review but also Washington County as uh Fifth Avenue is also their roadway uh we look at other
items that would affect compatibility with surrounding land uses such as landscaping and the exterior lighting and then functional requirements from an engineering standpoint such as storm water management uh again obviously subject to Middle St Croy Watershed review and approval uh and then
utilities uh would be reviewed by the city engineer and City staff from a Next Step standpoint uh assuming uh the feedback from uh this public hearing and sketch plan review process uh encourages the school
district to move forward they would revise their plans based on feedback from the city council Planning Commission in public uh they proceed with the petition for annexation and their development applications uh and then that would initiate a time frame of action by the city to consider those
applications including the uh public hearings for each of those items required by the Planning Commission it'd be held concurrently as one public hearing at one meeting uh and also seeking input then again from Washington County and Middle St Croy Watershed uh
prior to recommendations from City staff and the Planning Commission moving forward to the city council uh assuming the city council would endorse and approve the project as presented uh there would be the subsequent steps for the State Office of administrative hearings to approve the annexation and
Metropolitan Council to approve the comprehensive plan amendments uh with regards to the public hearing uh there are two separate noticing requirements involved so for the annexation it's a 30-day notice provided to the township and ab budding Property Owners by certified mail uh for the development
applications it's a 10-day notice it's published in the city's official newspaper the Still Water Gazette and mailed to Property Owners within 350 ft uh the Planning Commission is able to accept written comments prior to uh the public hearing uh or testimony at the
public hearing but once that public hearing is closed the record for considering public comment is essentially closed and that's what the Planning Commission and city council are to base their uh decision on along with the submitted plans and other input from the
developer City staff's review on an initial basis of the application as we outlined in the memorandum included in your packet is that uh the criteria for annexation are satisfied the land use would be consistent with the policies of the comprehensive plan uh for school
facilities um the school is allowed by the zoning ordinance within that R2 zoning District that is proposed uh the site and building plans do generally comply with the requirements of the zoning ordinance uh at least on this initial basis there may be additional issues we identify as those plans are uh
finalized but we would address those with the future development applications uh and the subdivision or the plat of the property also complies with the subdivision ordinance we did summarize 11 conditions or stipulations that we'd like the school district to address uh moving forward to that formal
development application uh but that again would be covered by the revised plan submittals that would come forward to the Planning Commission at a future date so again uh no emphasis or emphasizing no action to be taken by the council tonight this is information
only thank you Dan lot of steps yeah yeah it's just the beginning all right so now we're going to hear from whom on at the school district does someone want to come up and give us details of the oh I guess
it's yeah operations but want to get all the way over to the mic and wait so we've got I'm mikee fun I'm the superintendent for stillw Water Area Public Schools and um I'm here tonight to actually participate and uh um kind of show you a
little bit more of our detailed plan of uh what our plans are for for the school um and with that um we have some folks here from W Architects and Glenn I think you're here as well um who's going to
who's going to come you yeah we hadn't prepared a formal presentation but we're happy to answer question oh okay sorry I guess maybe there was a little miscommunication about how that was going to work I don't know okay so Paul we've met thanks for coming Madam Mir yeah it was it's kind of informal right
so they don't have a necessary presentation um but um we can definitely put up some of the stuff that we have um for so that they can run through some of the architecture some of the Landscaping different items like that would be the preferred thing that would be great if
possible Well Wing it ex it always works winging it always works yeah so I know the um residents within the area were were sent the map that has
the Landscaping on it is that correct so that yes Mad May has been out there already the residents who received the U public hearing statement received the the Landscaping plan and then anybody could access um all of the other um maps
that were provided for um this uh city council meeting tonight and I want to make sure we also touch on the the the traffic study at some point as well because that's big part of this all right well I'll I'll
start with the site um if you are interested in more of the like the design of the building and the floor plan we're actually planning to present to the school board tomorrow and that'll be they broadcast that so we'll have a sort of a more robust presentation about the inside of the building there um so
tonight I'll start with the site plan here that um obviously um everybody knows where the site is our plan is to try to streamline traffic on and off the site as much as possible there and we can talk about the traffic study as we go forward uh the idea is to attempt to
get as much stacking as possible to happen within the site ideally on any given day all of the traffic would um sit on the site that's a particular challenge for um elementary schools these days in Middle Schools um I think it might be the cell phone but for some reason parents show up hours before pick
up time and sit there forever so um that is a something we've been engineering around for several years now and we're getting much better at it so you can see that's what the loop around the park main parking lot is all about is providing as much stacking space on POS as possible on there um we do intend to have plenty of parking there for all of
the school staff as well as visitors um and then um as as many know uh this is a little bit of a shared with the city and the park so we plan to improve the parking on the the park site um that will become overflow parking um when
needed for events and things like that during the day the parking spots there will the car parking spots would be available for City residents um and then for loading and unloading time that would be the where we would put buses so a best practice for school sites is to try to separate buses and um parent
traffic from each other so they would have their own driveways and access there uh the building is shown in that kind of medium gray here uh it is uh about a 650 student School 600 600 student school um
and it consists of a kind of a pod layout so this the classrooms are arranged in pods within there it has all the things that you would expect for an Elementary School classrooms um flexible learning areas are an important part of schools now it has a media center lunchroom cafeteria um and a gym one
interesting fact is the state of Minnesota changed the um building ordinances a few years ago to required tornado shelters so the gym is actually being built as a tornado shelter um so that's a nice amenity to have in the community and then uh of course the the
site will be landscape so you can see this PL represents um our current development of the Landscaping there'll be storm water control on site uh the back side of the building will have the playground area and then we are also planning on building an outdoor classroom and it's a the the districts
intend to have that area available also for Community use and I think that's kind of the site plan any other questions about the site um one of mine was um did you mention a number on how many cards you think you
can queue up for pickup drop off that is in the traffic it's in the traffic study guys that up and we're still working through with the traffic study in the city some of the options for that
um and then Ju Just a kind of a general question for those of us and may or may not have been through a process like this this proposal seems pretty detailed and um you know well laid out and thought out how how close are these
things typically to what ends up getting built in in act I mean is this like 90% there and some tweaks need to happen or is it 25% there and we're gonna we could see lots of changes um I wouldn't expect to see lots of changes we've been
meeting with the city actually for quite some time now to try to um collaboratively arrive at the design that we have but it is not set in stone so we have to go through your process and that might result in some changes um we actually just received the tra traffic study short time ago so that
might also have some changes sure I don't I I wouldn't want to be held to a percentage but I would hope that we're in the 80 to 90% um settled on what we're going to do somewhere in that range that answers my question okay seems like well we haven't really gotten
feedback yet so you've been working with City staff but not Council or even the people that live near it so that seems like a lot of a little too far of solidness to me but okay um but I don't know
um so I'm just trying to figure out what the steps are in this process here so he was going to present and then we we're going to ask Planning Commission members for feedback right and Council doesn't actually give feedback
until after we go through the public hearing process so is that okay with you guys that we just kind of all hold off and see what other people have questions on and then we can fill in any gaps after unless there's more that you want
him to actually present at this point I I think people that are here hopefully have looked at the the map um I don't know if we need to kind of zoom in on this a little bit more it's kind of hard to see it on the screen because everything to the right is kind of not
that Madam mayor oh madame may members of the council um if we could go over like some of the exterior stuff um I think that would be appro exterior finishes that way people know what it's going to look like maybe a little more detail in the Landscaping that we're
trying to screen from the park potentially um we can always Zoom zoom in on that maybe Dan can help zoom in on certain things if needed um in related to screening to the park um if somebody the traffic study that is
currently out there is definitely in draft form um it just got reviewed by the county so it's very preliminary and they haven't had a chance to update it um if you can read um the write up that uh City staff had is available in the um
in the packet um and that provides some details on some of the concerns that City staff and County staff have with it um now there's definitely um things that we can work through on that so okay and maybe before
we get to the exterior it's a it's an unusual addition from the original pens that we had seen we should talk about that loop around the building that new road for um the safety vehicle
um just so people understand why that's there and what it's going to be made of and all of that yeah it is um it is our intent to not have traffic going around the fully around the building um it is a requirement of the fire code to be able to provide access for fire trucks to um
the full circumference of the building there's some exceptions to that but so that is the primary reason for that path on the back and the the kind of the dead end turnaround that's in the lower left hand corner U but though that is not anticipated to be used by vehicles at all other than in an emergency and is it
made out of is it going to be asphalt is it going to yeah it'll be a pedestrian path when it you know normally that's its normal function and the other path to the on the west side of the building that also hits the circle turnaround that's just
pedestrian just sidewalk pedestrian yep and that couldn't have been the path for the fire trucks because it it possibly um it doesn't necessarily need to be um going all the way around they have to be able to reach it with 150 ft hose
basically to get to it um the building gets a little bit tight between the property lines and the building and so it's best practice to have that far enough away that if the building should burn and topple over that the fire truck's not blocked by debris so it just gets a little bit tight in that
corner okay and uh should we point out the Outdoor Classroom slash sure that's this currently it's shown as a circle design down here so that would be um kind of a little bit of a a front area or a presentation area and then some
seating is shown here on this half of the circle and the playground they're going to there will be a separate playground that you can't read that on the screen here but point that out for people as well please because we have a playground at Barker's Alps but there will be a separate School
playground and I know that was a concern for people so I'm sorry I don't know how to make this thing zoom in or I would try um yes the plan is to keep all of the Barker Els amenities as they are other than the parking lot and then also
provide a separate one for the school day functions and most of the playground of equ equipment is not shown in there it's kind of in that um irregularly shaped piece up against the building and it's a says playground by others which means the architect is not designing that is
that why it says by others um don't get hung up on that that just means it's not under the contract the the main bid contract but okay gotcha I just thought people could be confused by that it it's part of the referendum funding and so it'll be put in as per
okay okay I think that was what I wanted to make sure people saw on the the Landscaping part okay so I do have questions later but we'll wait and see if other people ask the same questions that I okay um you did ask me Matt to talk a
little bit about the exterior um and I apologize these don't show up very well on the screen uh the building will all be of um you know permanent long-term construction um they're in school buildings are intended to last a long time so should hopefully I like to think these buildings will be around for 100
years we'll see how that goes um so the exterior year is uh primarily brick most of the building is Brick there are areas of the building that are pre-cast concrete so they're shown on here in kind of that wavy pattern um the gym and the stair Towers more or less are the
pre-cast concrete places and then there's a few larger areas of uh curtain wall or big glass walls going into the media center in cafeteria um but again all all durable long-term materials um one of the the fun things again I didn't bring the whole presentation I apologize
I didn't realize I was supposed to do that um we are patterning a lot of the design of the building on the the theme of the um St C Valley Watershed um so we have a lot of sort of um rock and natural sort of themes as part of the exterior design and what's the general
color of the building it's not like red right like um not no it's some Reds and Browns and okay Tans those kinds of colors the pre-cast is tan okay natural colors thank you
anything else we wanted him to point out Matt um no Madam mayor the uh the utilities are pretty straightforward and that's further down the road um there is a lighting portion of the um uh plan set in here that shows um where the lighting
is going to be and it's all down lighting and it meets complies with city code so there shouldn't be too many straight lighting or anything like that um but we will also continue to review that
um he you could talk about um the reasoning so the original agreement had the bus parking on the other side versus the parking lot by the school if if you could provide some information
on most of the people here saw that First Agreement right and we're proba under the impression that's how that would go even though we reiterated that that wasn't necessarily true um maybe just how you came to switch those two
out um sure that's been a while ago Matt correct me if I say something that's not accurate but really it had a lot to do with uh the organization of the building on the inside so that that bus parking and the parent parking want to be organized around certain elements
generally we try to give uh parents the front door because they're going to go where they want to go um and the bus door we like to keep some separation around that so in working out the site plan and the building it just turned out that it was going to be better to be
have that on the other side of the thing um the other thing um I believe the original sketches that you might have seen um around the time of the referendum had the building really in a much more north south orientation um and in laying out the the building it became
um advantageous I guess I'll say to put the building sort of across the breach of the property and that made it so that it was very difficult to fit the buses in there anymore with all of the earning movements and things that they need so kind of a a a myriad of forces that landed it over there yeah one of the
reasons I ask is the the extension of the uh so there's probably some concern out there from that original agreement about oh well it was originally just going to be a parking lot and now we've added the fire department access to the back so um just just reiterating that
that wasn't set in stone and that there were perceived changes there um one one other thing that you could talk about or going into some detail is pedestrian access um or kid access to the property um how it's built out um if you would
sure our our intent is to connect into the trail system of the park basically so you can see that happening um down in that area you were mentioning where the Fire Road connects to the bus area um that and and also further up north that connects into that system we are also
this drawing shows a side sidewalk going around along the road um and uh it's not our intent to connect that all the way into the city but I believe the city has plans someday of of making that connection and so we would be set up to connect with that when that happens yeah
Madam mayor so uh from the city standpoint there is currently no sidewalk from um I believe about 8th Street to um the park facility so it is definitely the city intent to um create that connection um to allow for a
walkable area for um for pedestrians and kids to to make that uh without having to walk on the road um the traffic study also indicated some need for um some type of pedestrian Crossing on Fifth
Avenue to reach um potential residents like along six and fifth um Avenues up there streets excuse me on the east side of the cemetery that neighborhood right and so the county we will be working
with the county on um some type of Crossing or access there whether that's a crosswalk or some something other over and above that so okay um question about the distance between the the path that has been written in for the fire trucks
and the actual existing walking path on Barker Alps there's they're very close it looks like is is that like a 10t distance I'm not good with is there a scale on here I don't know Greg I think 40t 40 ft is it would
it make more sense instead of doubling that impervious surface there to have the path and the just widen that path for the fire Tru I don't know I just feel like we need to start thinking a little bit more outside of a box here and or maybe that path needs to cut more
directly the the fire one just I'm just a little disappointed with the with the and we can talk about later when we get to our time but the the all of that extra impervious surfice that ended up coming up because of the fir truck turnaround thing so I would like us to
get a little more creative with how to do and I my understanding is that we're actually over on the impervious surface percentage as it is so we do have to be creative yeah it's a tiny bit but we still have to get a little creative
so all right is it time for us to go to Planning Commission comments or is there more background we want um Madame mayor I do um Mike forward me like a more formal presentation that they actually have um so I'm going to forward it to
Dan so that he can put it up there give me a second so what you're going to see is actually this is the presentation the board's going to be mad at me because you're it out now School Board tomorrow night okay um we won't tell where the board is um so but this will give when
there's some questions on colors um this will give Paul an opportunity to talk about okay thank you this this will be helpful I feel it's been a little kind of just thin so we could get more that would be great it's
in must Comfort I know I put my jacket on my lap in here I thought all these bodies in here would help did it go through yeah I would say for sure yes
right here oh yeah could be you could ask thanks very much all right I apologize for not being better prepared we we weren't ready for that and typically sketch plan reviews are a little bit more development based so we
had prepared for this but that's all right may just to I I did not ask them to do a formal presentation it was more to react to some of this stuff and potentially get feedback from the public right based on the plan sets that they have I understand it's just it was a lot
in the packet to look at on like a computer screen or whatever so going over it I think is really really helpful so I mean even for me I asked you to print all this out so I could see it because it was kind I don't know if you guys struggled with it on your computers but all right well we appreciate you get
to have a preview and you get to see me practice for hey look at that yeah it's PR um as we mentioned it's a new elementary school for 600 students the building is about 9600 or 96,000 Square ft I should say um we are anticipating
going out um for bids in about October um and so they'll be um starting in Earnest in construction in the spring they may depending on permitting and all those things there might be some work that goes on a little bit early there but and it is a twostory building to which is not it's yeah a partial tw-
story it's not fully TW story but quite a bit of it is yes um uh this design was developed in conjunction with um a lot of stakeholders in the in the school so we had a group of teachers and parents come together and help us design uh the building uh particularly the floor plan
of the building and some of the concepts so these are some of the highlights of the things that came out of that I won't read them all to you but um um a lot of um focus on uh really bright and welcoming building um and inviting nature into the building was one of their themes which is part of how we uh
embraced some of our design concept uh making it easy to navigate obviously is an important thing for a larger building um a real big focus on making the spaces fun and engaging um one of the things that's interesting in modern School design is uh the concept that you would
make school a place that kids want to be which I don't think was always the case in the old days so I'm really trying to make it a place that engages their senses and makes them want to come and and be Learners um obviously all the spaces will be accessible by the building code um but the idea IDE is
also to make the building in such a way that it sort of Fosters involvement in the community and being able to use spaces after hours and things like that um and then another really important thing is that we're in a big time of transition for Education um it's a little bit unclear what the future might
hold and so there's a really big emphasis on being flexible trying to provide as much flexibility in the building as programs change and different things happen in the future that the building can be adaptable for them um we've talked about kind of at length um there is obviously quite a bit
of natural area around the site now we anticipate obviously the the the park is um going to be there forever we hope uh but there is also quite a bit of space around the site to the west and the South that is a steep slope and so we would anticipate that likely is to stay
more natural or at least um the development won't be too intensive in those areas so really should be a beautiful site uh when it's all said and done um we kind of covered the site plan before I won't spend too much time on that one um this is then the first flooor of the building so that main entry is on the
North side up here um so that is where visitors and um uh students that are dropped off would come in we also have another entry on this end um that we're labeling the bus entry um but also could be used for other things one of the district's practices is to use the gym
in the cafeteria for staging for bus loading so that's part of that flip that we talked about before when we landed those another major organizer of the building is is that kind of the the spaces that are more publicly used are sort of on the right side of the plan and so the idea is that you can shut down the other half of the building and
have for instance the gym and the cafeteria open without having the rest of the building um be um available to people uh in the heart of the building is the media center um so that's that area we'll show you some images of that as we go forward um this uh maroon area
is a centerbase special ed area within the building and then these pieces here are the uh classroom pods or we call them learning Studios within the building so they're basically around building blocks of four classrooms and then some flexible space there are small
conference rooms um there is a a component of special ed that is brought closer to the students classrooms um so that's decentralized within the school to some extent and then a staff office area professional Staff office with each and know each one of those so the idea behind that Learning Studio is that that
set of teachers and students sort of works as a team and provide some flexibility so that not every student is in one room for most of the day necessarily they're in this pod together and there can be more collaboration that happens that way each of those also includes what we call a mudroom um at
the elementary level we've been calling it that um it you might think of it like a locker Bay it's but it's cubby sort of concentrated and part of the idea is that it gives a place for the stuff in school to be um so it doesn't have to be laying all over the hallway or in the classroom as is often the case and some
so that provides a contained spot and then each one of those also has toileting facilities for each of those um so then there's there's basically three of those um pods or learning Studios on the first floor the the one on the bottom here is the kindergarten pod so that has a little bit different
room configuration and then there is an a couple extra rooms there that are either overflow for years when um there's a little bit bigger class or could be used for um early childhood education within the building um um I guess I missed the
office so the orange on here is the main office so that's right at the front door and that will provide a secure vestibule so after school hours the inner vestibule door locks and you are forced into the office before you can enter the school so you get screened and then the gym cafeteria kitchen uh Boiler Room are
all on this end of the building then we go up to the upper level and you can see the the only the left side of the building is twostory the right side is obviously the gym is a little bit taller but that's all one story on that side and it really is just three more of those classroom learning
Studios or pods on that side I'm sorry this computer's very sensitive um and then uh you can see one of the features in the building is this art room one of the specialist rooms kind of um hangs over the the media center area in the middle uh here's a blowup of one of
those classroom classroom learning Studios so it is composed of four classrooms um each of the classrooms offers a little bit different um learning environment um so one of the features of this is this flexible learning area in the middle that allows
students and teachers to break out or support staff to come in or parent volunteers to come in and work with kids um outside of these rooms there's quite a bit of visibility between those classrooms in the central area so that um teachers can feel comfortable having kids working out there in small groups
or with a a volunteer and then one of the classrooms in each pod has a operable wall between it and that allows that to open up and then this can become a double classroom again to allow some team teaching other other kinds of larger activities to happen and then as I mentioned there's a a professional
Staff office within there uh some conference rooms and a little bit of special ed designation with within each one another question that often comes up um obviously school security is a an issue that we have to deal with um one of the um choices that many clients make
is of our clients make is to have more visibility within this area again so that you can open up and um use shared space and do more Collaborative Learning what we do then in exchange is really Harden the entrance into that area so that everybody's protected within that pod behind
there sorry um on to our concept so as I mentioned um um we're looking at the s c River Valley Watershed as as part of this and the idea of erosion and some of the different elements are influencing the design of materials of the
building um so here's some great imagery of various areas Within in the The Watershed and some of the great Rock features water um sediment Boulders and how all those things play out um and again there's a little bit of a story line this isn't to be taken too
literal you know the building is not a museum or a interpreted Museum but we're looking at all these things as influences in the materials um and the idea of Bluffs erosion and sediment have become sort of the big themes within the building and then this diagram shows kind of how
we're applying it within the building um so you can see there's areas that are more focused on the tree canopy or sort of the high parts of the Watershed is coming down um there are water elements like the bay um you can see um the the uh triangle elements show where we're
kind of featuring water and you saw that in some of the elevations uh and then um as as the water comes out and washes out we're featuring kind of Sandbar um elements within in the learning Studios and then uh the Bluffs it's a little hard to see but these squares are meant
to be sort of the Bluffs so there's some feature elements in here that play up some of those that imagery um this slide just starts to bridge a little bit between some of those images that we saw before and some of the materials um and I I won't dwell on on this slide because it will become
more apparent as we get into the renderings so on the right is um one of the images we've produced of the the building and again I we're not at 100% so some of these things may may change um we do have a responsibility Beyond budget so some of that might change as we go forward but um you can see um
these great images um this is an image of uh um what a bluff could look like and the pre-cast is um our intent is to have the pre-cast actually have like a rock texture to it um and then we're working on this uh interesting pattern for the brick that feels a bit like sediment on the
building uh and then this on the right here is an image of uh some of the curtain walls or the larger windows that we're planning to put in and our idea is to try to kind of invoke the idea of a waterfall in that area and here's just a bigger image of that
elevation of the brick wall so that's the pattern that would it actually is a pattern it might look a little bit random but um it does repeat and then these are some of the bricks that we're using to help create that rich texture to the outside wall and then here's a stepped back view
of the front of the building so we're looking we're on the North looking across the parking lot at the main entry and you can see here how some of the the rock outcroppings or the Bluffs are manifest along with the sedimentary brick there's a little bit closer view
of the front door and the front door features more of a waterfall element and then that would be the bus entry over on the east side and now now we're looking at the back so this is actually the back of the cafeteria cafeteria will have its own um
entry there so that the kids can go in and out from the playground in that area and then the the final sort of big piece of waterfall curtain wall is the media center so that looks into the media center and then this is kind of the backside of one of those classroom wings
so again we're trying to break the mass of the building up a little bit so it can feel like a smaller um Good Good Neighbor in the area so you can see how we do that some of those classroom Wings then as we go inside um again there's inspirational images mixed in
here with some of the materials that we're planning to use so we have a fairly Rich color palette within the building um and it ranges from sorry it ranges from um green sort of uh in those tree Expressions that we talked about through water elements and sediment
elements to as it plays out through the building uh so this is a view just after you walk in the front door um so we're looking at kind of a feature wall here um some display cases and again a little bit of Ro rock outcropping is being shown there and then these doors lead
through to the media center and those are the doors that you'd be able to close at night to to have Community use to the other half of the building uh this is just looking the other way back towards the gym so as you turn left there we have another display
case and then this is kind of the edge of the cafeteria uh there is a view of the cafeteria area so as I pointed out on the diagram before this is meant to be sort of the Upland wooded area is there like a stage area at all
or like a not a formal stage no no it could be used for that you can see that this creates a bit of an atmosphere around that it's flat floor I was just thinking I toured that North lint North Star North Star yeah in Hugo and it's very similar but it had a stage so okay
we talked about that here I think the district opted for um not having the constraint of a stage yeah so obviously they could bring a portable stage in if they wanted but they didn't want to have it built in gotcha okay sorry for the aside uh this is then the media center so in the heart of the building and you can see there's that art room that I
pointed out before um uh this area is meant to be a little bit more of the watery zone so we're using these rich blue colors on the wall um the outcropping and then the the ceiling is meant to evoke kind of the idea of clouds and Sky to make it feel like an
open place and um make it feel like you may be looking out from behind a waterfall in here another view of that feature in there and then just sort of the final Corner that as we turn around in that
space um this is one of the entries into the the learning areas into the learning Studios um and we found some fun places to make kind of break out small conference spaces within this building and then this is an example of within one of the learning Studios they
um have a slightly different color theme between them to differentiate them but um the basic ideas all the elements that we talked about you can see water um there's the Sand Bar on the floor here you can see we're creating kind of a central element surrounded by water with the classrooms on the edge um we have
some ideas of maybe um the colors of a sunset in the ceiling to feature up there and then you get to see a little bit of the the visibility between classrooms in that Central learning area um this is an example of one of the classrooms it it hard to read in here
but this is actually a window wall here um but they have doors that open up so again you can flow in and out of the classrooms to that Central Area uh here's example of the gym again that's in the more Upland treed area so it has a more of that
color p and there you go thank you sure that was really interesting I don't if anyone else enjoyed that thought it was super interesting better than the Civil DRS sorry sorry all right apologies to the school
board for getting to see that first but I think that was really helpful um quick question throughout all of this it's being called Bayport Elementary School is that decide Ed or is I mean I
love the name but we currently donated a lot of money to rame Anderson this is a new building oh well I I don't think Anderson's even wanted it to be Anderson so I'm very happy beport it might be something else but
okay um we're calling it dayport at this point in time for planning purposes and who's making the final decision to what the name is well it'll need to beay for probably Anderson but there's
some okay there's some ties with that gotcha gotcha okay sounds like you can't sounds like you can't talk about it for the renderings at this point okay
just curious about that is the height of the area where that that's not two stories much taller than the other part it just felt in the renderings very much very open and tall
in that part um no the it the two-story Parts like the media center is the height of the other two stories so we're just basically carrying the rof apart it's not extra tall there okay it just looked very tall to me
but this must be like Northstar norstar felt very tall too like very like very similar yeah y very similar Heights and is there architecturally a reason for that when you design an elementary school to make it so much taller when we're talking about kids that are like
very short um well to to make it feel not constrained um okay not quite sure how to answer that it is not overly tall okay it's it's an economical height um that allows enough height to get all the Building Systems mechanical duct work and lights and all those kinds of things
and then also have stealing that are that don't feel squat okay um so most of the ceilings in the learning spaces are probably 9 ft high so it looked like Yeah The Learning spaces look like they were more small it's just um feels less cozy to me when you walk into a school
with such tall but I mean there's benefits to having bright tall well I ideally we have a little bit of both there's spaces that feel a little bit more Grand like a larger group might GA Gather in them um there's also places that I think feel much more intimate
when you get back into the classroom areas it'll feel appropriately sized for what's going on in there great okay all right um Planning Commission time we have three of our five Planning
Commission members here it looks like um is anyone want to ask any questions or provide any feedback I would ask that you come to the podium just so we can all hear what you have to say if so we've got Aaron Oaks here and Carl Bliss
and Colleen free all right colen come on over all right great hello I'm colen sreed and I'm on the Planning Commission um I they're just all random questions
my scribbles um for which I don't know if architect or who would know this I know we're saying we have about 10 acres right total is that like what is the average for an elementary I feel
like that's small I know we've talked about it before yeah so hey Mike I hate to make you do it but just so people at home that are watching on the can't remember what the exact planning
numbers are and maybe you have it um you know what they are planning for for student for school yeah it's um uh there's a little bit of a range but basically 10 acres plus an acre for every 100 students so this site is on the small side um when this first
of all I should say those are not I should get up here those are not those are not requirements they're not code required they're guidelines from the Minnesota Department of Education so that that's not a constraint here um in those guidelines they do say that adjacent Parkland counts as part of that
and so with the park next door we're more well within we're above actually sort of that guideline okay thank you for clarifying thank you um and then what like what is
I know we say we need a new school but what's the benefit to the city of Bayport to move it up there like is it monetary we're not getting anything from it right they're
taking there's no yeah there's no taxes from a school if that's what you're asking well I mean like from the land that they're going to use from the park we don't own that right so we're not getting any money correct the not currently I mean we could talk about
what kind of I mean I'd like to look at some just want fees and then like what about the building that's there the the school district owns that yeah Mike can maybe talk about that what is so couple thoughts so you know you asked a great
question on the the 10 acres I think our current school is on 1.4 acres they give you a little bit of perspective right right I I know so U plus 10 plus 20 much better for the the kids and and how I look at the Through My Lens is what's
best for the kids and so that's why this is a great spot for us and again we're very thankful to uh the the uh formally The People's Church uh sa Ro United for for uh really selling us this land we think it's a win-win for the community
um as far as the current location of the school one of the challenges we have as a district is our where our district office is right now is too small and it's pretty run down and and so one of the things we're looking at and I've
talked about this last fall when I was out speaking to different groups of people where okay if we were to pass the referendum um we could utilize um perhaps the current Anderson School or
the Lake Elmo site and we have people already asking us if they want to sell us the Lake Elmo site um so our intent in a perfect world and again this is there's a lot of steps between now and then but in a perfect world in about three years we would
consolidate we're currently in two locations for our district office we would move move the district office into Anderson Elementary and then we would still have space available for maybe some other um groups in the community who do daycare or something within the school so that could potentially be a
win-win as well that's the leading plan at this point in time uh but there's a lot of our Focus right now is really getting the schools built but that's that's yeah I just I wanted to know about I don't want that to be left there as a is
but if that's I mean the next step of a million steps if that happens they're going to have to figure out parking for their workers anyways I think we did the math and the number of workers wasn't going to be that much different than what like the number of workers that go
to a school teachers Etc and we would have we would have to have bus turn we would have to have the bus parking and so anyways it's definitely doable let just I just wanted to know what then for the um like just is there clear
defined like this is park that is like who takes care of the park the city y still our Park y that's going to be ours and I did read about insurance stuff in that I
mean I said this before like I don't want the city to be liable for anything that's going on on that school property um and then I also had brought up previously if if it was going to happen is there going to be any
potential for outside restrooms from the school or from did you know I was going to bring this up no Ethan just asked me a minute ago he's like wait there's no outside restrooms on here you know people have well we
should I mean whether it's a city or in cooperation with the school somehow do an outside restroom I mean I whatever well at the very least we would have a satellite like we do we already have one I know I know but right now it's it's
where you know some of this is I thought the same thing like if like I mean looking at these like on the backside of the gym if you had access from the outside and you could lock the inside door so you could just use the right like doing you know non-school hours for all the people playing baseball and soccer and everything else that was one
thing I brought up a long time ago you know that would be a better to people using that um I think that's it I probably have more but that's it for now thank you Colleen
Carl hi I'm Ain Oaks I'm part of the Planning Commission um so my questions are centered around two items one is culture and one is Operation culture we a little bit addressed that about access from the
city is that's a deviation from what we have now is the school is centered in the city and now we'll be on the edge of the city so right for like me and my kids where we live a block away from the school uh we'll be a little bit farther
from the school but walkability important to us so I'm sure we'll have that addressed um so more of a statement but also just addressing a possible concern uh the other in culture which thanks Colleen for bringing this up is
the old school uh the reason why I say that is because from the community that will be a really important topic because it also it's centered in the middle of the city um the other two and I will get to a question uh the other two is around
operation um one is about traffic and so I know the traffic study is there and so it'll be it'll be good that we're getting there so there comes my question um is currently I don't what's
the 350 350 so almost doubling the size for enrollment because what I was thinking about is we've heard a lot of the news and through the different School planning and board meetings is we are out of capacity right we are this
area is seeing a huge influx of uh kids right this is awesome right I got a few small kids um and so thinking about this area right there's still a lot of area for development right in and around this area so which means is there going be
even more kids coming to this area yeah right um is the building built in an expandable way if we reach out of capacity of 600 you answer go ahead of course we
always design buildings such that they can be expanded the school district does currently not have any plans to expand it so we're not actively planning additions for it at this time um and then I I think I can say that the district's plan they will have other
growth within the area um the Lake Elmo building is being built quite a bit bilder than big bigger than the current one and so moment shifts can sometimes happen with boundary changes too and Facilities built elsewhere so I think what what I'm trying to say is there's lots of options some of them might
include adding on to this building at some point in the future would it be up or out like where could you even go most likely out it's very rare that you know off on an existing yeah so I don't know how well I don't see a lot of out room for you is what I guess I'm getting it
um I assure you that there's ways to add on there is I wouldn't probably want to double the size of the building on this site so we're talking about a few classrooms here and there and we probably don't want to deal with the traffic that would come from having more students there either so okay I mean I
was kind of told that they weren't looking at it becoming bigger right however you you know adding onto a building is always doable but it's also looking at capacity throughout the district and there way we
can shift capacity that maybe some places are over full and we may have some capacity s c um then you get into boundary adjustments outet families but sort of raising taxes for new buildings
so I mean that's kind of the um you know that's the tension that we have thank you that's all have thank you Carl Bliss uh 164 Street South Bayport and a member of the Planning Commission as well thanks coling Aon for
your your questions um didn't leave a whole lot so first I appreciate the uh this is an iterative process and I've seen improvements and listening uh through the process so I appreciate that I'm sure there is more to be had as we
get into public hearings uh and Planning Commission meetings other question I had was on the the south side of the property uh as we get past the um the AIS that goes through there uh and there are a large number of trees that kind of
fall down into a a wetland Pond I'm not totally sure what's down there I haven't explored down there since I was in fourth grade um how far back are we looking to clear trees and um remove some of what's uh
what's currently there yeah actually you had a in the beginning you had a good picture of where all those trees are at the beginning of this at the at your presentation I think maybe where you showed the map there it showed the trees pretty well cuz these it's hard to see
what oh maybe you can show us what exists as trees yeah this is the REM tree removal plan so you can see we're not going past so it's kind of hard to see like where's the ball field can you is the ball field down there and we just can't see this yeah that's the field there it's hard to
see that one and the building would be the building sits up in great and so the Swampy area is going to remain with the Anderson family that's I think that's at about the first Baseline is about where your property line goes is that correct
I think Paul spilth probably knows he's out there yeah yeah pry much the mfield yeah it's about the first Baseline I mean that's 20 feet probably no I just mean like this like if you drew a line from their property over it
would hit first base mhm does that help anybody stand if you know that Park well enough yeah okay thank you was that all the questions okay all right and then um I guess we open the public hearing next
does that sound right yeah okay so it's time for the public to get us some questions here so you're welcome to come up to the podium and state your name and address and whatever question
you have and we will record it see if we can answer it I don't know we'll see how it goes come on up all right okay I'm Cheryl Corgan I live at 371 5th Street South most of the time um
so my husband and I have been residents of B for about 30 years so um we have a long history here and my husband's Grandparents were some of the original folks in Bayport so have had five
generations here so far and looking forward to five more we can so I appreciate the the um presentation it looks like a beautiful building and all of that I will say that it feels very fully baked
and so some questions for the city council and others to consider um about this I know this discussion has been going on for quite some time but I've heard multiple times that the decision hasn't been made yet it feels like it
really has um with the amount of investment so so here are some questions for and maybe this is for the school district just to consider we don't have to answer them today or for the city council to ask in the future so what what other Alternatives right now are
being evaluated I I I'm sensing that this is it and so the next obvious question would be what happens if the city council doesn't approve this for the
school district a third question would be what what's been the investment so far on the part of the school district because it feels like there's been a lot of already expended on this particular
alternative um I I got an answer for for how many children are currently at the Bayport school and then how many additional children are being planned for another question where in the school district are these children coming from um and then the
attendant uh question related to that is I know there was discussion earlier about a traffic study how many more V Le trips will be associated with those additional students versus what we have today
um is there any concern another question is there any concern that this school building is going to be directly across the street from a minimum and medium security prison um that has prisoners out doing
the lawn um will now have school children there um and then likewise is there concern at all that this is also going to be across from an emergency response um group that often has uh
alarms during the day and a need to take large Vehicles traveling at fairly high speeds with small children around um so so another concern to just consider about this site
um I think a few final questions that have already been potentially raised is this is a 10 Acre Site and this building is jammed in there I happen to really um enjoy Barker's Alps it's it's a park
that was actually given to the to the citizens of Bayport in perpetuity many many years ago as was the land that was ultimately um traded in Inspiration so this the people of
Bayport have already sacrificed quite a bit in that area and now it feels like the park which is one of our only Parks we only have a couple in Bayport um now we're going to to be not necessarily
encroached upon but definitely crowded and um it it won't feel the same for the residents here I have no doubt it will be fabulous for the children so so so I encourage the city council and others to consider what other
Alternatives there are especially since this is an area that's growing and this particular site is limited without expanding into the park and I know that the planners have done a wonderful job
at trying to keep the two separate but here's my fear and that is 5 years from now or six years from now or however long the next conversation will be we need the park that was the discussion when we we
gave up the the Natural Area for inspiration and um it just feels like as I've said the folks of Bayport especially long-term residents have sacrificed quite a bit so thank you thank you
Cheryl um other comments if you're if you have new things to add I would appreciate it we're going to have a pretty long meeting um if you're just going to come up and reiterate some of these same things I would say we understand all of those concerns but um
if anyone has new things they would like to ask or add that would be great can I ask to the the folks here of the school or for the school can you ask what is it directly only to you or to no you can ask any questions you would like state your name and address
hi Marty Bigler and I own the property at 343 South Lake and I just retired after 44 years of teaching so I have questions um I didn't see music okay can you if you do have your questions though I think just for mik purposes I know
Mike is standing I'm so used to looking at people and asking I know you prend you're asking us even though aren't this I didn't see music space I just want to hear it and I'm not sure if I thought there was but maybe I think there was a music space the issue about safety is a
concern as somebody who's had to have tin zillion drills and the building is gorgeous don't get me wrong I think it's gorgeous I think the the sensory part of it is wonderful but is there ability to clo
Part close off sections of it should somebody come in I don't know that I'm asking the question good question um and the other is when I looking at the different areas and it's like oh this area is all going to be green and grass and the classrooms and I they did a great job of
putting the special education rooms by up in the front usually we get shoved in the back that was my thing for 20 years but nobody mentioned about how that aesthetic feeds into them and it just feel like they kind of got forgotten yeah it could just be a a Qui
to I would think but it wasn't it wasn't listed in the plan yeah and I'm just hoping that they are contact they're having discussions with people who work in Center based rooms to make sure that experience is equally as sensory Rich
for them as it is for the other students in the building thank you thank you do you want to address the user groups and how many we've met with folks and teachers and and this is it's a little outside of like site plan things
but it's still it's like I no that's okay I understand people have those concerns so if if you want me to keep it brief the answer is yes we've been meeting with the special ed teachers and the administrators to make sure we designed that um as Mike mentioned part of our process I talked about um meeting with a group of teachers to design the
building we also do a whole another round of things that we call user groups um and so we've met with um staff from across the district to talk about the function of each of the rooms in the building and to tune it and try to make the most of each of those things so thank you
thanks other questions or comments that you'd like Planning Commission city council School District to hear on up Dave name and address please Dave far 468 9th Street North um couple quick
questions first I want to commend everybody here Planning Commission board members and the school district cuz we've came a long ways from what we originally talked about earlier in May right mhm um I think you guys have done
a really good job utilizing the space that you did get um I only have a couple quick questions does the survey include just Fifth and Stage Coach or does the traffic survey
also include like Ninth Street yeah you want to give a little tiny bit of background on the traffic study yeah so I can give somewhat of an update and maybe Chad can talk about it to um Chad Jets and traffic engineer from SE um so
the traffic study we the county wanted it expanded to include um Fifth Avenue so all traffic on Fifth Avenue it doesn't specifically include the intersection of 9th and fifth they didn't look at that because there's not a lot of turns on there so the turns
that they were concerned about or the intersections that they were concerned about is Fifth Avenue North and Stage Coach and then 47th in Stage Coach so those were the specific ones that um were considered for that traffic
stud further than that Junctions as opposed to additional traffic no they also looked at additional traffic so they did um traffic counts on Fifth and On Stage Coach they do have some there is some data on Fifth and 9th
and fifth and sixth okay as well but the concerns aren't there the concerns are those intersections I guess I guess uh my concern is is being a you know a member or someone who lives on Ninth Street we do see a lot of traffic down
9th Street that are just people cutting through town now 9th Street will be used as a direct walk path to the school I would imagine for walking for the the students that do walk and you know ultimately I have concerns right now with my two young children just on Ninth
Street because the amount of people that travel that especially at a high rate of speed I mean know the police department knows cuz they hear it from people that live on Ninth all the time cuz people like to really rip down that street um maybe a consideration of something
similar to this would be to to you guys the council members um if the school does go through which you know if everything goes as plann maybe something similar to like uh like Deer Path in Still Water where it's
directional only in certain directions you know to to limit the amount of traffic you know what I mean may only be able to take a right on N Street off a fifth as opposed as opposed to a left and right and you can only go
you know East as opposed to West or something as you exit to limit the amount of traffic it's just one idea um I think I even mentioned that and we thought people hate the traffic study sorry about indic that it didn't include that intersection it as the
mayor indicated didn't include that intersection as one of the the primary um what do I want to call it concern intersection so yeah if you look through the study it does show number of counts I believe turns at that intersection and
what they may increase to during and after school with before the build and after the build when is the traffic study going to be able to be accessible for the so it currently is accessible the draft one if you go online um to the
city of Bayport website the same place that you find the agendas for this meeting the traffic studies included there now that is only the draft ver very first draft version and there will be multiple other draft versions based on comments both from the city and from
the county um based on more information that we want to see and some other concerns that we raised and the county raised okay I think you'll find it really helpful take a look at it perfect um another question I guess I have would
be um to the school district do you plan on changing the School boundaries then once these schools are built yes will that include like boundary changes for where kids go to Junior High as well element okay on middle schools but mostly
Elementary this okay and then a question to you just just a question I guess um when you built and I don't know if you were here or not but when Brookfield Elementary was built I mean that that
they they added on to Brookfield within years add that was built we just need to get there was a finite tax increase they wanted it to be tax neutral something was coming off the books and they said okay we need to
build build a new building and but we don't want to increase taxes so it was built at the capacity with the tax payers so it would be neutral to the so but it wasn't big enough MH and so sure enough my first year here we're adding
on classrooms to it and it's 5-year old building yeah okay so it was not built um to to the size it should have been built I have I'm aware of no plans I have no plans um to do you know uh to
to expand the two large schools were or 600 in in Bayport here 1100 in Lake Elmo um we're building to Future capacity um 10 years down the road so when these schools open we are not going to have 600 Kids the first day here in bort
we're not going to have 1100 um in in Lake Elmo but we are building towards the capacity so that um you know we we have ready forms or not going to repeat what just happened F
perfect thank you and I think well with that all field usage um right now don't we is are the baseball fields contracted out to um uh St gr St gr can you explain how
that works yeah Madame mayor members of the council um the current fields are used by St gray prep and also during the summer by vaa um and a couple of other organizations so they Reserve um most of that 99% of
that activity would be after school occurs so there shouldn't be too many there probably won't be any changes to how the field is reserved by those organizations okay so that that would be my next thing is is there a way that we
can leave a little bit more usage for maybe vaa or the school itself because I know for a fact that Bayport Elementary right now play VA baseball t-ball you don't you don't play at those fields
you're playing at other fields because that you know because Sr prep has those fields pretty much booked all the time there's a little bit of vaa ball but very very little I mean there is more so in the soccer and in the fall sports but
might be something you want to look into now that we're putting our school right next to and another for the you know that we live there we see all theity in the evening it is a busy it's a busy time in
the summer it's used a lot um especially with baseball and and all the traffic that's going through there now we're going to have a school there and it's going to be used even more so so it's an option to think about that maybe we give that usage to you know our public school
system so one one thing that Matt didn't mention is that St C prep maintains those fields for so we're getting something out of it that they do a great job at that they do you know I'm not saying kick them out it's just uh I
don't know if the has struggled to get on the fields and wanted them I don't know how that works Madam mayor I just have a follow-up question for Mr far um so when s c prep when is the vaa season and compared to St Cy prep I was I was
always under the impr that those Seasons didn't overlap for like baseball andof maybe very little yeah I mean so our baseball season or the baseball season that that I was a part of this year ran
from April till a week ago so okay we can have convers for options of finding fields for us it was it was difficult and I know it's the same for VA so but uh yeah those are the the questions I
had thanks for bringing that up thank you all right public comment is still open if anybody would like to get up all right okay we will um we need a motion yes I move to close the public hearing
thanks Katie no second thank you then all in favor I I public hearing is now closed and it's time for the council to briide any feedback or questions that they have after listening to all of
that um who wants to start um I'll get us kicked off something um uh something you know we can probably for people that are technical can find the boundary lines some of these
drawings to be able to see where Barker ends and and uh School District property will start um it looks like at the very minimum the old the old or the current parking lot
is going to have to be adapted in some ways or maybe just start over is that accurate yeah okay I'd love to see I'm good for right now oh okay that was quick um Katie did you have any
comments or questions at this point um so I guess that fire truck Road sidewalk that walks back down to it looks like basketball hoops that won't be like there won't be a fence around there
where cuz that's on our property on the park property side weing any F that will be open and just looking like a sidewalk yep and then we can use those basketball hoops after school correct in the playground in the
playground playground and the and the bathroom we're going to get what do you want to call Outdoor you talking The Outdoor Classroom as well is public and the Outdoor Classroom that is a concept for the location we're still working with the church on you know we are working with what we be what
would be best as far as access uh for the public and and what they want to work with on on weekends because when we went into the agreement with the church we said we want to build a Outdoor Classroom for our students that would also be accessible um for that so we are
that's a that's a templated location for it right now yeah because if it's not there it does leave a little more flexibility I would think with that fire truck road to not Loop so far into our park right correct it could maybe go more straight if that has is moved
somewhere else um that's not in the park is it back side of the building this this this per the loop that comes right off of our the parking lot that will be on Barker's elps is in our park for a certain amount of time before it goes in as we were talking about back by the basketball court no yeah over there and
again I maybe this is the time for me to just reiterate I I just feel like it was maybe a an afterthought that everything was May already laid out and like oh now we need to figure out how to get a firet truck to the other side of the building and we'll just I know we'll just add a whole bunch more asphalt so I wish we
could like if there's some way to rethink this we can look at it that would be really nice like again this is a the overview is a template I mean I think I think you saw the inside of the buildings there's been a lot of design work oh I know and that's why it's like oh but you know I understand the
cafeteria needs to be there and you know it kind of makes sense and you want I love the division of the public space to the classroom space that's how Northstar was designed it's a beautiful building if you ever get a chance to go look at that that's a lot like what this looks like it'll be um but if there's some way
to be more creative to reuse that turnaround space as basketball hoop space or sure or even bus parking spaces as something or I don't I I just feel like it's and like I mentioned earlier if
this if the road could also be the walkway CU this turnaround is going to be used may not ever be used for the firet truck for all we know we may not ever have to access that I mean that would be the best right but so it kind of seems crazy for us to have to have all of that without having some
repurpose or another purpose for it that that's what I would like you to think about for the next draft number one thing for me and the traffic also makes me ner I mean I read through the whole traffic study and there are some concerns and they have very valid concerns and they brought up good um
some suggestions which I'm sure you'll take to heart about how to like maybe to have a double double line of people coming through the par interesting commentary you know I've been a superintendent for almost 20 years and the number of parents who now Drive
their kids ised I wish we could control that somehow and so that's why you know when you take a look at the map here and there's all that um parking lot area um it's it's a reaction to our society
unfortunately yeah we all understand it I wish we could get more people to ride the bus I wish we understood it better but it's something we're going to have to deal with right and so we just need to make sure it's designed to work witht there yeah and and I I know one of the
County's concerns is having the two separate entries I think so close to one another and the sight lines could be an issue and the trying to buses trying to turn left while parents are coming in and it just I think it could get a little complicated and I'm sure you guys
will work through that with the county um maybe it has to be one big entry and then the buses come cut across or some I mean it's going to have to be worked out because that that part makes me a little nervous too so hopefully there's a better plan when it comes time to
actually approve it um sorry Ethan I just jumped in and I was going to give you chance but it just seemed like such a um what else did I have where are my questions oh here um again as I mentioned I think kind of
offhandedly ear earlier one of the recommendations in our packet said to to not have you guy have the school district um contribute any park dedication fees but I think we'd need to talk a little bit more about that I think especially since our park is going to be right there by the school and may
it more use I think we'll talk about how how that might work because any other building would have to anyone else that builts in our town I don't know I think we've had a building for 100 years we've been using the park across the street I'm not sure what the fees were for that but well it's not really like a that's not what it means
it's like when a like say a new home was built and inspiration there was a a a small part of that they paid to go towards Future Park improvements and I think we could work something out tiny other little thing is I believe that our
current Barker elps sign that's wooden is probably going to be gone and probably should be gone so I'd like to work with you on how to get a sign that looks like our other bport Park signs sure big rock that says Barker elps park
at the entry like I said a tiny thing but something we need to consider because that and that sign also says something about a labyrinth on it so don't think it's going to be pertinent anymore um the outside restrooms I would
like to understand it a little better is it is it possible are we talking crazy by even bringing up outdoor restrooms well I think it's possible just depends on on the price you know that's really where where it's at okay here comes Paul and the other piece of that is the securing the area right so suddenly okay
if we have outdoor classrooms all right then how do we secure them from the rest of the building yeah no I get to I get to struggle with it I get how it would be helpful yeah um Paul do you want to give us very much um we have done that before
it creates security issues for the school um I think certainly it's the intent of the district it is a public building it's taxpayer money there will be accessibility so in events where parts of the building are used you would have access to bathroom yeah um I'll do a little plug and say if the city would
like to pay for bathrooms we can add them on to the building that' be another way to do that so do you think taxpayers you want all right they're paying for theol yeah yeah but not it's not just bayor
taxpayers famor this school a lot more okay um oh about the old school um as you mentioned you we've been sharing space there which as I know Mark has pointed Mark dous has pointed out before
as soon as you walk out the cafeteria door it's basically city property but the park the playground equipment that is currently there is owned by us not the city right any intention of changing that or like taking that playground
equipment and putting it somewhere else because we I would love to keep that park there I just want to make sure that we're on the same page we have not had any discussions about that one way or the other um so there's been no thoughts on that that I can tell you at this
point in time okay so that is something we still need to just talk about to make sure we are absolutely and again it doesn't have anything to do with thesite plans but it just came up I wanted to make the Park equipment is that owned by the school or the parent group that purchased it the they donated to the school they donated it to the school
okay yeah good question K okay um those are my concerns I think so far did you want I'm not I mean I wasn't really done I was just going to yeah that's fine one of things I think I've heard it multiple times the bathroom
thing I think we should decide if Matt if you need to work with somebody to figure out the feasibility of it what kind of cost it would be and and and put it to bed either it's reasonable and we can when some of the infrastructures happening for the school we can piggy
back on and to me I would see a remote small building probably not attached to the school in my in my view you'd put it out further you know past the self of the parking lot or something down there
um Madam Madam May if I can just comment on that um one of the issues we run into even if they did outdoor b or outside bathrooms at onto the school is the fact that a significant amount of the users
for both of these for this park is the softball field and the baseball field as Dave indicated right Dave far and that to run that far to go to the bathroom is it not feasible and so it would be great
to have bathroom rooms there but are we thinking about putting one at each field essentially so there are there are definitely limitations there um now with a bigger parking lot do we add use of the pilion now more for weekend stuff
which we don't see a significant amount of reservations for um this has always been the topic of do is there demand there for having outside bathrooms especially given the proximity away from the ball field
yeah I I lean towards the city not having anything to do with paying for bathrooms um we currently have three satellites at Parker's elps Park one at the softball field one um near the church property and then one right by
field number two the the baseball field and I don't see why we need to add outdoor restrooms because our park is so far from where they might end up being if they're on the building itself so that that's my opinion on on that
um it it could change in the future but I think for now we should be fine with having some satellites out there for the people using the city park Madam mayor yeah one other comment with that said um I think at the very
least water is available already at the park we should consider potentially with this project to um provide a sewer line like a deadend sewer line somewhere close in proximity maybe to the Pavilion
um potentially have a future upgrade so so that's a great idea mhm okay can we let Ethan talk do you want to talk Ethan man sure well I don't have a whole lot I I think the design is is nice I know
there's still concerned about how much of the park is going to be affected and to me it looks like just that new bus parking lot is basically the only thing that's on the proper property or on barkers now um which we' already talked about expanding that parking lot anyways and now the district is going to do it
for us so to me it's a win-win on that um I know somebody mentioned the prison uh Google Maps 1.5 miles is the is this this one and it's 1.4 to the new location so I don't see that that is a huge issue um but people keep bringing
it up so I just wanted to I looked at that and that doesn't seem like an issue the traffic I've lived across the school for nine years so um I can't see that the traffic is going to be a huge issue but I mean obviously smarter smarter people than me
are looking into that so I don't see that as a big concern either I mean it can't be worse than what it is now for you round fourth yeah exactly so um yeah yeah yeah and I guess Cheryl did bring up the question of that it sounds like
it's been decided right that there aren't other Alternatives and that's the referendum sort of addressed that and that and buying the land all of that added up to yes we're going to try to make this work and and I know that some people are still opposed to it but
that's the state of play right now is to build the school on the plan we just purchased from the church um at the end of June here so that's our plan um we have been you know as you're very well aware
for a year and a half or a year and a half ago we started to meet with city planners um to look at different locations within the area for for a new school and uh this is where we landed um we are moving forward pending approval
from the from the city council here but for all intents and purposes we are looking at building the school on this 10 acres of land contiguous to Barker Z thanks for clarifying that um do you have a good set of where
the students will be coming from percentage wise how many would actually be coming from Bayport to versus outside of vort I don't have a percentage but uh um I can tell you that the growth we are seeing is pretty significant in the
southern part of the district so I would imagine southern part of the district will probably flow in did West Lakeland at some point were they part of Bayport yes they were part of our Elementary School yeah yeah so I there's been no
discussions as of as of right now but um you know I said that uh the current School Anderson's at 350 Aton Lakeland is buron at the seams um so and they're projecting to go up so I imagine some
boundy in the southern part of the district uh but that again that's a future discussion um that would not take a that would go into effect on the school open in 2026 um oh my God my mind I just forgot what I was going to ask you um had
something to do with the oh I know so the traffic study that was done was the were they provided with data about where students may be coming from or how not I have not seen the traffic study I have no idea oh okay so probably not then or you would have known they're
just assuming based on households and whatever okay M mayor they did a rough estimate I believe from drummer hosen on where they think the students were coming from oh okay ISD 834 indicated
that they don't know for sure on Reb boundaries or anything but the traffic study did need at least an idea of where they think that it was coming from yeah when I was reading I was like are they just guessing or how did they we're growing in the South so right and
because a lot of the traffic is assumed to becoming um down or up Stage Coach yes a significant portion where we're gr not 95 necessarily is you know I was just kind of there was
minimal coming from Bayport yeah okay right you had you're done anyone else have any I mean this is our chance to give them feedback because they're going to come back with another plan right and meet with a Planning Commission
and then I think having an idea of what does already seem you have an idea of what you're going to do with the current school that we have but just reassuring that it's not going to be an abandoned building because I think that's what a lot of I don't want to go down our main drag and see an abandon building I think
you know I I once upon a time I was a superintendent out in Western Minnesota and I would see schools closing out there for declining population and they were just I course because the school would close at the building would and and and this is a central part of the community that's why I think it's a
potential win-win for us um if we can move our Central offices over here um so that's the initial planning guidance I've provided some folks but again we have a lot of things we got to do before now and then
happening thank you all right well there's no formal action for us to take um at this time we just I mean our CH this is great all
this stuff is great in terms of you know and seeing the floor plan it's fun to see all the classrooms and stuff like that I am my faith is in the district leadership to decide those types of things I'm thinking of how it kind of you know things like the
the bathroom situation where Bayport residents can um you know gain something out of this deal and obviously it's been it's been talked about and I I think it's a way Anderson is has been over the years very much underutilized as a
center in the community we it doesn't really get used other than during the school year um I think that's a huge advantage to this school um I think they residents can um you know get some use
at whether it's you know Community the I don't know what kinds of seminars different things like that so be nice if the gyms could be used because you know we're all going up to a pack or whatever if there was something local people would use it yeah would be so we're adding gym space throughout the district
should put some little pickle ball lines on the court there yeah so yeah solve a problem for us will you people want pickle ball okay sorry if I those those are the thing you know in terms of getting in the nitty-gritty about what
the school looks like and and stuff that sort of I mean yeah I think the the design the colors the outside is really very beautiful Paul so thank you for for all the effort you put into that um yeah
I think it's going to look look great from the outside um I think it's really kind of nice if it if it I assume it's going to pan out that the classrooms are all going to face kind of the the trees and the background there I think that's nice a little nervous about it facing north
in the winter and the ice and the all of that when they're walking in because I think it's not going to get a lot of melting and sunshine over there but it is what it is I don't think you had a lot of options for where your front door was going to be um but yeah I think we
think you've heard our our feedback and hopefully there's a little more um creativity involved in some of that impervious surface and I know that there's an option I guess you could purchase some of that Anderson land and then your impervious percentage goes down but I'd like you to think a little
bit more about um how to to deal with that that fire truck turnaround and um and then of course the the the flow of traffic we're going to be dealing with figuring that out too so those are the two two main things that I'd like to
make sure emphasized so okay that's it if um if if you're not sticking around for the rest of the the council meeting will give a minute for some have five minute or we need a
little break okay is all right to take a a two-minute recess we have to move the do we have to we did the moving of the closing we did that yeah and then we had then we got to talk okay so just a quick little
recess e e e e e e e e e
e e e break that was we've been here since 4 so that we needed a tiny little break all right um next is unfinished business we're going to consider an amendment to
chapter 25 prohibited acts and penalties article three administrative citations and civil penalties in the Bayport city code of ordinances related to abatement and recovery of costs and some ordinance for
publication um there has been talk about tabling this we heard at the um public comment time the open forum and before we get too far into it I thought I would just get a quick feel
from the council about whether we how how everyone feels about tabling it or if we want to get into this tonight I think that might be easiest to just write off the bat go through that does that make sense so that no one's wasting any time Ethan are you in a position
where you feel like you could vote on this or would you prefer to table it to the next month I think we should probably table it because I think on an issue like this I think all five of us should be here for sure I agree that Connie's missing and that's not great um how do you guys
feel I mean a little part of me is like we have done a lot and worked on this for quite a while but then there's also the case that Connie doesn't get a chance and I know this is a big issue for some people so I can kind of see both both ways so how are you
feeling good sure I I'm okay with tabling it um as long as we don't get attacked again like last time I would like to know the problems that they that our city members have with this
beforehand instead of coming to our meeting and just ripping on us because that just getting that emotional about something too you can't think straight and then you're thinking about it for weeks and you're wondering if
this is even worth all of the trouble of you mean your job I I mean this you know like is this ordinance worth everyone not everyone the several people that came in yeah you know and their anger
towards us yeah and we have been told I have been told by two or three different people that they are going to approach it differently they just did not apparently have time in the last four weeks to approach it differently so I guess cuz
we got our revised ordinance out on Wednesday and um wasn't enough time for them to put anything together I I can empathize I mean they have a lot of different people involved and they wanted to make sure everyone was on the
same page before they presented anything so we should not be attacked again I've been told John um I'm I'm fine tabling um that being said for for me I need to
hear some um specific problems with it or things that could be changed tweaked um this as it's been presented to us before any of the things in this
chapter 25 come into play court cases need to have happened this isn't something that someone's going to hold up and say chapter 25 I'm coming into your yard to clean something up so I I need to see some real teeth behind what
the problem is with it um our two neighboring cities Oak Park Heights and stillw water have very similarly written ordinances um I I I uh that's where I'm at but I'm fine tabling I don't think it's an emergency
but those are the things I need to see to be swaye I agree um I'm going to be very disappointed if what happens a month from now is that you say just do not pass this ordinance I want I want to
work collaboratively to come up with wording that will suit both parties um so so just coming to to me and and and saying don't do it is is not going to sit well with me personally cuz we've waited a long time now and I tried
really hard to work with the attorneys to write what I thought everyone was going to I thought oh this is it we got it and it still wasn't enough so um yeah so that's where I stand on that but yes let's just let's table it um like cuz it
isn't an emergency I would love to be done with it and not spend another minute on it and I'm sure the neighbors that are dealing with this issue right now that want it Abate it are going to be a little more frustrated with us but um I think they'll I think they'll
understand that we're just trying to give everyone a chance to voice their concerns clearly so well I'll move to table an amendment to chapter 25 the Bayport city code of ordinances as related to District Court
civil abatement actions and recovery of costs as presented okay thank you John thanks Ethan um to table it I assume we just need a regular vote right all those in favor I I anyone
opposed okay well there Connie you have something to look forward to you're welcome um thanks for hanging in there thank you sorry I'm just I'm sorry um is there a time like a certain amount of time ahead of that next meeting that you would like
us to present make sure we get our information as much time as possible okay well I just I'm just like I want to make sure that like there's a deadline we meet I a week out sort of you know certainly very very easy to do I just want to make sure that we're not wasting
your time or our time and that we're being respectful of everybody's if there's a if there will be collaboration and we're going to be going back and forth I wouldn't wait till a week before the next meeting CU we have weeks ahead of time maybe and then we have week to collaborate and then people yeah and I
would say communicate through City staff and then they will see when you know we'll work together with them okay I just want to make sure we have a timeline that we can be respectful of everybody's I appreciate that thanks for your time coming down here tonight everybody hanging in there for so long it was interesting though right see in
the school yeah and we watch the get morning yeah see we do some fun stuff here sometimes I'm sure Susan misses it gu by guys hi all right well maybe we didn't much better than last they're learning okay
so on to new business there's none City councila on reports Ethan didn't meet I have nothing to report sweet what do they ever meet anymore I don't know I missed one you missed one okay who is your
backup me I don't know is it you I think it's you I I'd have to look probably me I don't know well you should find out who it is and let us know if you can't make it to the next one cuz it would be good to kind of hear how it's going with them um just for those of you who don't
pay a lot of attention Ethan's on the cable commission okay um John nothing thing oh yeah yours is this Thursday are you able to go okay or is it Thursday whatever it's Thursday Watershed is this Thursday how
about uh I went to Beal didn't and Planning Commission was did you guys do Planning Commission last week or was that just this week that was just just just H right now so okay wow easy um so for the bcal one that I went to for you
Katie it was all about Derby days and planning for Derby days which is September 20th and 21st and things are going well of course anyone that's interested in helping they can always use more bcal members or volunteers for specific events um so so that's it everything's
going really well with that um Miley aison I did get a chance to meet with officer lowski a little bit about night T night because it's her first year doing it and she was pretty excited and wanted to kind of get some feedback and input on what what we could do and we're working on getting some some tables down
at the par you know people in the community like Community thread I think might show up or um we've got Barb heke Camp from the water conservation coming um uh bcal is goingon to sell ducks for the Duck Derby um I and U some things
like that so anyways we we talk to about that um I also had a really fun day July 3rd with um Jennifer sers from the Chamber of Commerce she wanted a tour of Bayport so my being a member of that chamber has really helped us get some
visibility um I'm an ambassador I'm not just a member but um so I think that was great that she wanted to get out and meet more of the business owners and of course it was the 3rd of July so a lot of them were like off on vacation already so she's going to come back
again another time and and do that so so that was really fun and really cool that she thought of that um the Regional Council of Mayor meeting was on July 8th and it was uh we invited the superintendents in our districts to come and so um
superintendent Funk and I actually went together drove together and I had a chance to chat with him a little bit about school things and everything so it was great we there was a lot of good takeaways from that they even got a tour of the current administrative offices that he mentioned tonight are very cramped and kind of outdated and he's
right it was it was interesting to see how they've got people arranged in that little building so I didn't realize there's two buildings so did a couple ribbon cuttings um for the chamber well actually three of them and then I also
helped them with the lumber jack Days parade and if you didn't see it our beautiful you know so manger or M however you want to say it they had the cutest float they had a Eiffel Tower they had a little table it was it was adorable and they they handed out
oysters so yeah anyway it was really it was really cool all right so that's it and then the staff and City administrative reports Madame mayor in the interest of time I think we'll we'll bypass staff except for Jackson who can
make a plug for night to unite good idea I didn't do a good enough job of plugging it oh you did a great job uh Madame mayor uh counil I know it's a late night and we've had a long day with uh safety Camp getting
rained on a lot today poor thing and 45 kids stuck in a very small beach house but we made do everybody got really wet and we're just looking forward to tomorrow being a much better day um that being said um safety Camp is going to uh
finish up tomorrow um and with the better weather we're hoping that it's going to uh go a lot better and then lead us right into uh night to night um we have a lot of new things that are happening even still adding um uh some tables as of earlier today we had been contacted and so we were going to
accommodate them to uh join us oh great um and so there's going to be a lot of new vendors we're going to have a lot of prizes we're going to have food and a good opportunity for us to say say thank you to the community and also for the community members to come out and um get to know us introduce themselves
hopefully people uh come up to uh Dustin and say hello to him so oh great he'll be there yes awesome oh yeah that was one thing I told him about right away I said hey guess what put this on your calendar great not sure when you're swearing in date is going to be but I need you for safety Camp so um he uh you
know agreed to help us out with that which worked out well for us and uh almost all of the staff will be participating tomorrow so we'll all be out there there and give everyone a chance to come by and say hello hopefully win some prizes hopefully have some food and then there'll be some vendors and a lot of other stuff going
on so we're definitely hoping to ramp it up and hopefully people will bring their friends their neighbors their families and come on down and say hello so awesome did we get on the list to have the helicopter fly in like we didn't make the list I'm hoping next year that maybe we're going to pull some strings
with the state patrol cuz uh Sergeant Slinger used to work for the state patrol so hopefully he's going to uh get us on the list okay because that used to be pretty fun it's been a few years since we had it but we were on the list this year to try and get LifeLink to come out um for us but uh we didn't
make the cut so there's a lot of high demand for it I know that's why I said get on the list now be honest we a little worried we were going to be underwater in the middle of the field too so you know uh but the water did uh uh go down so we could have had it but uh we'll hope for next year great and a
big draw is I I understand that Britney or officer low is trying to do less on the field and down there and more up by the the beach house so correct yeah we're going to try and have the majority of our stuff up near the beach house and The Pavilions and stuff so it's okay if the is has Public Works got it all
cleaned up after the flooding because I know it was kind of a big mess does it look good um when I was down there today it looked it was better but obviously with the amount of rain we got today um it got a little sloppy but I'm hoping that by tomorrow it'll be kind of dried out and so we might still have to have the softball throw down there but most
of the events are going to be up closer to um the beach house so okay it's going to be a nice day yeah all right thank you can't be much worse than this morning so thank you thank you to my staff for putting up with that and yeah them beach house is rather echoey so 45 kids in I know I wish we could do
something about how Echo it is just like we had our bcal meeting in there and it's hard to hear if you're trying to have a meeting but well I know the kids had fun I heard from my kids and they enjoyed it even if it rained so might need to throw their shoes in the dryer yeah for any questions paper anybody have any
questions otherwise most the rest of my stuff from my city administrators report talks about the stuff we have going on this month um couple of Tours couple events uh um coming up here the next uh uh month uh just everyone keep in mind that the uh safe road Grant does
continue uh we will be out doing enforcement on Highway 95 so uh yep yeah that's what sure apparently council member member Gilmore got a ticket no favoritism show I did tell them during the workshop
there are easier ways to meet our officers night to night would be a much better way H exactly that's perfect okay thank you Chief appreciate it all right so yeah is there anything else anything on Simon's report that's
worth not Madam mayor we'd be Sarah and I would be open for any questions that you might have yeah I think we're good keep up the good work it's all good yeah okay guess that's it I'll move to a
journ thanks John oh everyone wants to second I'll I'll take Ethan's all right all those in favor all right here we go y e e e