And uh also like when they said we're good Monday, September 8th, 6 pm. Welcome to the Beach Haven Burrow Council meeting. Uh we will stand and for the flag salute, please join us. Led by Mrs. Boner. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Pursuant to the New Jersey Open Public Meetings Act, adequate and electronic
notice of this meeting has been provided by posting on the bulletin board in the Beach Haven Municipal Building on the Burough website and mailing the same to the Beach Haven Times, Yasbury Park Press in the Press of Atlantic City. Miss Anderson here. Mrs. Ball Miller here.
Mr. McAffrey here. Snider here. Mayor Lambert here. All right. We'd like to start the meeting off by welcoming um Kimberly McKenna. She is the interim director of Stockton University's Coastal Research
Center. Want to come on up? And then I will share screen for everybody. I can lower this. Oh, there you go. Well, good evening, Mayor Lambert and Council. Thank you for the opportunity
to speak today. I'm Kim McKenna. I'm the interim executive director at the Coast Research Center at Stockton University. And tonight I'm going to be talking about the 2024 flood data collection and study that we completed for you. Um, and
I wanted to um also highlight the my co-authors there. Not I was the main author, but my other authors are also listed there. So, next. Okay. Uh, I'm used to talking with my hands, so I might run over there just to point to
different things. But the project goals for this 2024 study was to monitor the areas, your more vulnerable flood areas. And we wanted to compare that to the 2018 2019 study that we did for you all.
Then um since that 2018 2019 study um you installed that the storm water drainage systems, the pumps um three 1,000gallon per minute pumps and uh we went back to those same locations in
201819 and installed what we call hobo pressure sensors. So that measures the water above the sensor and we get readings from that. Uh we did three 90-day deployments. We started in April and we ended in December of 2024. There
were 274 days of data collection, over 6,500 hours of data collected. Um as I said, we reoccupied the same locations. And if you can see the little teardrop blue areas, those are the pump
locations. And the black dots are the locations of the sensors themselves. We call them BH1 through BH12. Um, and we also brought in the information on tides, precipitation, and winds. Next,
uh, these are Holly and and Matt who are also the co-authors of installing the pressure sensors. We put the sensors in these little PVC um pipes and install them under your storm water grate. We take the elevation of that sensor as
well as the top of great elevation. All this is done with RTG or RTK GPS. Um the elevations are in NAVD88 because that's a very common uh engineering um elevation and datam. So
we use that. What we did is we compared that datim that data with other uh like the tides were were also put into that datim too. Uh what you can see though is the top of great elevations were all less than 3 ft. So that's an important
elevation to remember through this. Next please. Um the blue lines that you see going up and down those are the tides. Those are the tidal elevations that were collected. The little orange spikes was the precipitation. So we got the tide
information from Tucker, the tide gauge there. The rain information came from a Harvey Cedars rain gauge. So we tried to keep it as close to Beach Haven as possible. But what's interesting about this is that in each of these deployments, the normal tide did go
above three feet every single month during deployments. That, as I said, that three feet was that magic number. Okay. Next. Oh, I also wanted to point out that the rainfall last year was a drought and the rainfall the maximum rainfall event was only a quarter inch
of rain in deployment too. So, in the summer compared to what you had this summer, you know, it's just a big big difference. Um, so just wanted to point that out to you. Next, so our flood events and how we defined flood events.
Flood events were when there was a water depth above the top of great about a tenth of a foot, so 1.2 in over the top of the great for a period of 30 minutes. That's what we called a flood event at that particular sensor. So stations that
had the most flood events were BH5, which is at the on the northwest corner of Center Street and Southwest Street. um and BH7 that was at the corner of Northwest Third and Station Plaza. So
those were our two more or less problem children. Um station BH5 is located near um an alpha uh Bayside alpha and um BH7 is also near near an alfall but it's in like a little embainment area. The
stations with the least events were BH9 and BH12. um they both had higher elevation top of grates. Um and then I want to point out BH8 which actually had the lowest top of great elevation at less than a foot. So
76 ft. Um that only had 11 flood events and that was your problem child from the 2018 2019. And what's interesting is now that is near a pump station. So I'll show you um examples of that. So next,
so I know this looks crazy, but on the left um bar you'll see the water levels in that NAVD88 ft. Um on the right are the individual sensors and they're based on that top of
gray elevation. So at the bottom you have S8, right? Because or or BH8 because that that's the one with the lowest elevation. The one at the top at the highest elevation at three feet is that S1, but you see the spikes. So
these these are water level spikes that we saw and this is deployment two in both July and August. And that's when we had that big uh rainfall event of a quarter of an inch an inch. Um I wanted to point out those little those red or orange arrows are the S7 sensor and the
S5 sensor or the BH5 sensor. um your the problem children from this particular um deployment. So next uh this is what I wanted to show you. We're comparing water level elevations. So that's in the green. That's this is
measured at BH7. Um so you'll see those spikes in the water elevations. You'll see the tide the tides in the blue that that cyclical blue and then the orange are the the precipitation events during that time. So these spikes in water levels can be caused by tides and you
see that in the left you could see the spike is caused by precipitation events or it can be a combination of the two too. Next. So, uh, apologize for the condensed, um,
version of this, but this is a table that's in the report and it shows the elevations reached during those flood events and the duration of that being at that elevation in hours. So, it's broken down into um, quarter of an hour
increments, but our highest water level was reached at that BH1 3.89 ft. It was there for a half hour and then it went away. Our water levels above the top of gray elevations occurred mostly at BH5 and BH7 and that's the number of hours.
So BH5 it was um 318 hours that was only 4% of the time that it was uh in you know during all the deployments. Um BH8 also had the lowest elevation but it didn't flood that much and that was only
81% of time for during the whole um study period. So next um so flooding without precipitation we tend to call this nuisance flooding right there's no it's just we're it's sunny day flooding why why is the water
coming up and it occurred 80 days during this 2024 um study period um BH5 and BH7 were most affected you know one was on the bayside alpha one was and at distance from the pump station BH8
experienced less flow flooding. Um, and we feel it was be because of that pump station, even though it was at a very low elevation. If you look at the spike that the arrow is pointing to, that's November 28th of 2024. That's a nuisance flood event. There was no rain. The
spike just left of that actually was a rain event. So, we saw these kind of things happening. It if you look, you have to have the other sets of data to make that determination. So um just interesting to point out that this was in that that last uh deployment that
last 90 days. So next um the effect of the pump stations. This is I highlighted BH8 in particular. Um you can see the tides were up to 2 and 1/2 ft um that day or those over this um
period of I guess it was a storm. It was it was May. It was a late May. Um I don't think it was a noraster but but winds were coming from the northeast during that time period. But you'll see the rainfall event. You'll see the rising tide and you see this the spike in the green. That was the measurement
from BH8 the sensor itself but then it quickly dropped even though we had a little bit more rain and even though the tide came up again. So that's where I think that the pumps really helped at least with you know small storms or with the nuisance flooding. And then next
and then our other findings were there were 274 days over 6,500 hours of um deployments. Um but of those water levels exceeded only 124 days. I think that's a good sign. Um, water depths
ranged from 28 feet to almost two feet, so 1.7 feet above the grates. Um, station 6 had the least amount of water, 28 ft, um, for only less than 3 hours. BH8 had the most amount of water um, but
it was only for 53 hours. And then BH5 um one of the problem children had a foot of water um at this site and it flooded the most of all the monitored stations. Um the lower flood event numbers may have been influenced by the
elevation of that top of great. So you know your your um uh roadway elevation might be you know if if you have a trouble area you may want to elevate the roadway. Um that that could be uh an adaptive management thing. Um we had for
you 44 days of rain flood events um which isn't much for that time period. Uh and then 80 days of the nuisance flood events out that 274 days altogether. Um nuisance flooding occurred mostly during deployment too
which was the summer which is kind of interesting because um usually we think of higher water levels starting up in the fall and into the winter. Um but we did have that northeast event. Um and then and some of the which pushes water
in through the inlets and when when we have those northeers or or uh low pressure systems offshore um they tend to bring in water through our inlets and then that raises the the backbay flood flooding uh element. Um and then we feel
that the 2024 data shows that the pumps did work at least for your nuisance flood events. um and that BH5 was the most problematic. However, you know, the last the last um study BH8 was the most problematic and seemed that the pumps
helped there. So, I am happy to take any questions. Um Sherry has all the data sets of the report uh all of the figures that were generated and um we're always, you know, if you ever have a question,
please feel great to reach out. That's my email. Um, and that's our website. So, quick question. Are the are the sensors were they taken away or Yeah, we last December we because it takes a long time to download the data
and then organize it in QAQC. So, yeah, they've all been removed. How often do you do this or is it on request or It's on request. Okay. Yeah. Um, it's very impressive what you've done. It's um it's a very fun fun uh thing to do because really it's the science,
right? You're collecting data to try to understand what's happening and really um I think the low pressure systems do have a big effect on the flooding too. Thank you. It's nice to know our pumping stations are working too. Thank you very much. Thank you very much.
Thank you, Kimberly. Okay. Finance report. Cash receipts in the current fund account for the period of August 1st through August 31st, 2025 were 9,38,192.33. Cash dispersements in the current fund
account for the month of August 2025 totaled 5,873,118. Cash receipts in the water utility account for the period of August 1st to August 31st, 2025 were $380,42.3. Cash dispersements in the water utility
account for the month of August totaled 174,574.96. Cash receipts in the sewer utility account for the period of August 1st through August 31st were $329,477.39. While the cash dispersements in the sewer utility account for the month of
August totaled $86,5768 submitted by our treasurer Sher Bowler. Ordinance 202519C, an ordinance amending chapter 199, vehicles and traffic in the Burough Code of the Burough Beach Haven, County of Ocean, State of New Jersey, to add a
stop sign at 9th Street in Delaware Avenue. Final reading. Since this is the final reading, it is open to public. If you'd like to make a comment, please come up, identify yourself, your name and address, and please hold it to three minutes. Is there anybody in the audience who'd like
to speak to this? No, just in this particular one. Just Yeah, just this particular one. Is there anybody on Zoom? I don't see anyone on Zoom. Council, anybody have anything they'd like to say about this? No, I think it's a good idea. Yeah.
Okay. Seeing no comments, is there a motion to approve 2025-9 C? I'll make the motion. I'll second. Miss Anderson? Yes. Mrs. Ball Miller? Yes. Mr. McCaffrey? Yes. Miss Snder? Yes. Mayor Lambert. Yes.
Ordinance 202520. Amendment to the bond ordinance. Amen. Amendment to bond ordinance number 20225 related to improvements to the Burough Emergency Operations Center. Finally adopted by the Burough Beach Haven in County of Ocean, State of New Jersey on
November 14, 2022 as amended by bond ordinance number 202441. finally adopted on November 25th, 2024 to increase the appropriation therein by 1,622,000 and authorizing the issuance of
1,542,000 additional bonds or notes to finance part of the cost thereof. Final reading and I just wanted to make one comment real quick. I did field some calls today about this and I just want to make make it clear that the future of this
property, the EOC property, it is the benefit to all in the community. Um the entire community, the entire island and all first responders, police, fire, first aid, beach patrol, um and if necessary, you know, be beyond the
municipal boundaries to the entire island. So this is a big step for the burough. Thank you. Okay, now it is the final reading for this. So, we will take any comments from the public. Again, please hold it to three minutes and be sure to identify yourself. Is there anybody in the
audience who would like to speak to this? No. Anybody online? Anyone on Zoom? Anybody on the council have anything to add? No. It's been a long time getting anxious to get this project moving.
Okay. Seeing none, is there a motion to approve 2025-20? I make a motion to approve 2025-20. I'll second. Miss Anderson, yes. Mrs. Ball Miller, yes. Mr. McCaffrey, yes. Miss Snder, yes.
Mayor Lambert, yes. All matters listed under item consent agenda are considered to be routine by the municipal council and will be enacted by one motion in the form listed. Any items requiring expenditure supported by a certification of availability of funds and any item
requiring discussion will be removed from the consent agenda and discussed separately. All consent agenda items will be reflected in pull in the minutes. Resolution 203 returning remaining offduty police detail escrow.
Resolution 212 returning piling bonds. Resolution 215 is acknowledging the hiring of a full-time laborer for the Department of Public Works. Resolution 216 is also acknowledging the hiring of a full-time laborer for the Department of Public Works. 217 approving
membership to the Beach Haven Volunteer Fire Company, number one. And finally, 218, authorizing an agreement between the Burough Beach Haven and the Beach Haven Chamber of Commerce for use of Taylor Avenuefield and parking lot for the Beach Haven Chowder Cookoff in
Merchant Mark. Thank you. Um, is there anything that anybody would like to discuss or concerns over? No, looks good. Very happy to see our public works department. I know they've been short-handed for a while and of course the fire department can always use more, so that's a good thing. Um, is there a
motion to approve the items within the consent agenda? I'll make a motion to approve. I'll second it. Miss Anderson? Yes. Mrs. Ball Miller? Yes. Mr. McCaffrey? Yes. Miss Snder? Yes, Mayor Lambert. Yes. I have a bill list this evening in the
amount of $989,553. Everybody had a chance to review the bills? Yes. Okay. Is there a motion to approve? I'll make a motion to approve. Pay the bills. I'll second. Miss Anderson? Yes. Mrs. B Miller? Yes. Mr. McCaffrey?
Yes. Miss Snder? Yes. Mayor Lambert? Yes. Under general discussion, our proposed ordinance, general zoning. Jamie, you want to take that one? Sure. So,
uh, we've been writing the zoning chapter 212, not writing it. Actually go through it, editing it. There was a lot of interesting things that were not allowed like carriages and very old things that we had to kind of clean up and it was
very confusing. So, the first thing that we did is we made a schedule almost like a graphic organizer of everything that's permitted in all of the zones. And nothing changed. I mean, the the square footage of the lots didn't change. The
lot width, lot area, the height is still the same. The setbacks are still the same. Nothing changed. It's just that a lot of times in the different sections, it would say everything that is permitted in this zone is also permitted
in this zone, but A, B, and C. And it was just really hard to go back and forth. And if someone was coming in and doing a new home or whatnot, it was really hard to read. So, what this schedule did was really just clean everything up in in the zoning or in the
zoning different chap in the different sections. So the only thing that changed was that um and nothing has changed. This is just discussion right now. Nothing has changed. We're just discussing this now. This is not an
ordinance. This is not a first reading. This is just a discussion. So, one of the things that the the zone the zoning office, the building office when we were rewriting the business district was not
to restrict single family homes because right now any dis all single family homes are allowed in in any zone in the brow of beach haven. And what that means is we have a section in our non-conforming lot structure that any
lot could potentially be a single family home. It doesn't have to meet the 5,000 square foot lot size. So if you have a really that's why sometimes you'll see like these really skinny houses and you're like how did that happen? That's because the lot size was so small. But you could you can
build a single family home. So what we want to do in the business district is not restrict single family homes but change the single family homes as not a permitted use but as a conditional use.
So what a conditional use is is that you have to meet conditions and this is in the multiple land use law. So the conditional use in order to go from a commercial property to a residential property would you would have to meet the conditions of the single family home
that we have currently. So that means that if you had a lot size in the business district that was 1500 square foot, you could not necessarily squeeze a little single family home in there. You have to meet the conditions and the conditional uses would you would have to come to the land use board and meet all
of the normal conditions of a single family home which would be 5,000 square foot lot with 50 uh by 50 50 foot of front of frontage and and lot width and width
front yard setback root yard setback and the two sideyard setback. So you have a a set of conditions that you have to meet. Now, the reason for this is, I'm just going to be perfectly honest with you, is we want to preserve the business district. We want to preserve the
commercial zone. What separates Beach Haven from all the other five municipalities is our business district. And you know, a lot of times we we came to this discussion four years ago, five years ago, and it was to completely
restrict single family homes. um that did not go over too well with the businesses. So, I'm offering this compromise where it's not a restricted use, it's a conditional use. So, you can if you have a lot size that that's large enough that
could sustain a single family home, then you meet the conditions, you go to the land use board and they make a decision. Now, I feel that this is necessary to protect the commercial zone, to protect the business district. Um, I have a lot
of friends that have businesses and you know, some of them agree with this, some of them don't agree with this. I've heard this is my retirement. You know, I just want to sell to whoever the highest bidder. I understand that, but I have to think differently. I have to think in the long run for the success of this
community. So, I have to preserve the business district. I want the businesses to go on and on and on. and I'm going to do whatever I can in order to do that. So that's
the reason for that. That is the only major that is the only change. Everything else ha has stayed the same. So if you have any questions or you know concerns, I'm sure I'm I'm ready to hear them. Well, having been through the wars with
you before, um I think this is an interesting and a fair compromise truthfully because I do think that, you know, people wanted the right to do what they wanted with the property and this gives them the opportunity, but it also, as you said, moves more to protect the
business district. I don't even I can't imagine how many hours this took. So, thank you very much. I think it's a pretty good compromise considering what's going on in Long Beach Township because they're at the point where if you have a commercial
lot, it's going to stay commercial. So, I think this is a fair compromise. Yeah, I I we you know, this has been talked about for years and it's not easy. We all have we all have many friends who own businesses in Beach Haven and it's
important, you know, we we respect them and it it's very important. It's it's it's most important to Beach Haven. It's I don't know, you know, if we didn't have a a lively business district in Beach Haven, we wouldn't be who we are. Um I it's
never easy to hear any type of restriction with your property, but I think that this is a really good compromise and I think that it makes sense. I don't know, you know, you don't realize I don't have land use experience. So, you don't, you know, you're learning, but you don't realize
how many um sort of inconsistencies there are within the code and, you know, for example, that you can build a single family home if your lot is much substandard size. So, I mean, I think it's important. I I appreciate the hard work you guys have been doing, you and
Phil, and it's um it's a work in progress here. I got is how long it's going to take you, but I I really appreciate it. U we need to protect our uh business district for the future of Beach Haven. Um so I think it's
so far I think it's a good idea. So I support it. So what do we do with this next? Is it just for Does this go to Well, we're just discussing it now. So, uh, each of you have a a copy of of the changes and whatnot if you have any
questions or concerns. Uh, you can reach out to me or you can reach out to to Viv or Phil in the zoning office. Viv is a wealth of information. She's great. Um, she single-handedly did this chart on her own. Yeah, this is one here of anybody.
She's amazing. So, if you have any questions or, you know, concerns, you know, she was, you know, my my right hand with this. you know, we worked together diligently for the last two years trying to get this together and it really streamlines the zoning office because if you ever been in there or you
ever had to put in for a permit or whatnot, it's it's a lot of paperwork. It's a lot it's very time consuming. So, this really will save them a lot of time as they're, you know, looking through your permits and going through things. So, it's a great timesaver for the
office as well. So, you know, again, I'm sure that I'm going to hear concerns or, you know, from uh businesses or whatnot, and I welcome it all, but uh I really think that this is the right thing to
do. I've been I was at the last land use board meeting at the township and there was I mean there must have been like I think I counted like 200 people there and you know they were saying the same thing like we're we we're done with this like overdevelopment and you know we
just want to preserve what we have and we don't want these huge monstrosities and we want to preserve our our our integrity of our businesses and it's such a fine line how to do it but I I think that this is is a nice is a compromise rather than a total
restriction. It's just a condition, right? Conditions that you have to meet. Anybody else at your meetings? Do you is um is our burrow engineer there? Is there It's always reviewed by our attorney, our burrow attorney just Oh, yes. Um our
engineer knows. Yeah. Yeah. Frank reviewed this. I'm sure Allison had a hint. I'm sure Allison really reviewed it and told Frank that it was okay. Um, yes, Bruce did. I talked to conditional abuses with Eric, our our land use board
attorney. Um, and how to, you know, specifically word this. And again, this is for commercial going to residential. It has nothing to do with single family homes that are already in in in the business district. Has nothing to do
with that with that. So yes, it's been thoroughly reviewed and it still will be. This hasn't even this draft. It still has to get written into a formal ordinance and then it goes again through a very lawful review and
then of course we have um a first reading and then it would go to the land use board and they would to and they will see if it complies with the with the master plan which it it definitely does apply with the master plan. Um but again, you know, they'll the land use
board will look through that. They'll have comments. the burrow engineer will also uh formulate a letter saying you know how it does conform to the master plan and then it'll come back to us for for public comment. And this again is going is this is not going to be like
bam bam bam. This is you know probably hopefully would be into effect by the first of the year. That's my goal by January 1 because we don't nothing can you know lap over the years. We like to get everything kind of tied up. So, it's a great time um for the businesses to to
contact me or you know, contact Viv or contact Sher or Mary Claire. You know, it has slowed down. Um it's a shoulder season. So, it's you know, it's a great time for the businesses if they want to come, they want to meet, they want to talk. It's perfect time. It's not in the summer and it's not in the winter. We're
not sneaking anything through. We're not rushing it through when you're really busy. It's it's a it's a night it's a nice time. So, I I welcome your comments, your concerns. questions, anything like that. But that's the only change. Everything else was just cleaned up.
Oh, we also took out we also put a battery storage facility as a s. Thank you. Yes. What a good job. And this schedule one is so battery storage facility. This makes it a lot easier for someone. You know, this schedule that D did is amazing. Like it's simple, but it really
is necessary. I don't know what we didn't think that that would have I mean that's usually how you know laws are created is because something happens and then we're trying to be more um proactive than reactive. That's good plan. Yeah.
Okay. Anybody else like to discuss this further? No. Okay. Well, then that brings us to public comment. And if anybody wants to ask a question about that now, fine. But certainly any topic is now open for discussion. Please three minutes and
don't forget to ID yourself. Mr. Cunningham. Good evening, Scott Cunningham, Sixth Street. Uh I'm all for saving the uh the business district. Let's get rid of the redevelopment zone then. We don't need it. Where I stand on my corner, we've
gone from four businesses to 20. You look at Fifth Street, we have four businesses on the street. Look across the street, there's four or five. And on the corner where the post office was one, we have four or five businesses. I'm all for bringing people in. It helps me out. But um at this point, we don't
need to keep tearing down Beach Haven and going such high density. I mean, if you've been I live on Sixth Street, just go up to the beach in the summer, you couldn't even walk there. There's that many people from the condos. and now we're going to add another 100 people on Fifth Street. So, I'm all for that. Uh
secondly, I was at a wedding in uh Colorado and uh they have streets kind of tight like ours and I city council and the mayor were there and I asked them what they did to stop. They have deliveries, tractor trailer deliveries from 8 to 10:30 in the morning. Tractor
trailers do not get to sit out there from all day long because I wouldn't want to live in one of these houses on Second Street, Third Street, or where the, you know, Center Street Angleside and have a tractor trailer running and when he leaves the next guy comes in.
That that just blows my mind. Um flood. That's why I'm here tonight. We keep sustaining massive damage from people driving up the boulevard when we flood. Um, my my flower box weighed 350 lbs of
6x6s. It's gone. All the plants, I've replaced them twice this summer. Gone. Um, we have to stop. And they had the the monster trucks came down our street 9:30 in the evening, the night of the flood, and then we're doing Rooster Tales down up and down the boulevard.
Um, we need to close the boulevard under these circumstances. I mean, all hands on deck. Uh, I'll go out and close it in Sixth Street, but I think I mean Taylor Avenue, Angleide, they're both high streets. We could we have the back roads. Township does it, Surf City does
it, and Ship Bottom does it. We need to do the same thing to protect our businesses since we want to protect the business district. Uh, what else did I want to get him? Oh, we don't need work construction on Saturday in the summer.
That is just total stupidity. Um, and I worked for Joe Mancin. I built a lot of his houses. 9 to5. 30 seconds. Oh, that's all I got left. Who has numbers the lottery for next week? Uh, 9 to5 in the summer. If you can't do it in 8 hours, you don't
deserve to be in business. 9 to5 construction. No one wants to pay 10 to 20 grand a week and hear nail guns going off at 7:03 in the morning. Um, other than that, I think I've spoke my word today. You ladies have a good one. Thanks for coming. Good to see you. Stay out of trouble.
Thank you very much. Thank you. Um, Chief, I like what you said. Would you like to speak to the flooding drivers and the flooding because I know we had a discussion about this. Uh, we can have we can have the county come down and put cones out like they do
up in Long Beach, but even the cones up in Long Beach, this last one, they all floated away. Um and the car, even though the boulevard was shut down, we had cars coming through Long Beach down into Beach Haven. Um we have our flood vehicle, well had our flood vehicle uh
until the other day when it caught on fire after the flooded. Uh we had some issues, electrical issues after that. Um and uh we do have an issue. We try to stop the vehicles coming through, but if we try to drive through, we're going to
cause even more of a wake trying to chase them down. and that's going to cause more damage. Um, we've been trying to sit on opposite ends of where the people are driving through and we grab them afterwards and we have written summones for it. Um, you know, we put
signs up on the sign, you know, on the sign board on the flashing board telling them that don't drive through the flood waters. Um, but we have a lot of people who are in the flood water already when the water comes up and they're the people trying to leave. Um, and you
know, they just don't understand that you can't drive your car through the water. So, it's a lot of it has to do with common sense. Can I just ask I mean I we all know the whole situation and but
why can't we just direct them either way on beach or Atlantic coming from Holgate and coming from like closing down the boulevard now the ones that are back in the marine commercial area down that way. But it would at least we do direct them up to the back roads. It's that we don't have the manpower to
we don't have the manpower to get out on every every side street and they they go up they go up a couple streets and then when they don't see us anymore they they come out of a side street and drive through it anyway even though we tell them not to. I mean are we allowed to use citizens
like Mr. Cunningham said he would you know we have I know that yeah I didn't think so but we we can ask thought I'd ask. Yeah, we can ask the county to, you know, bring down more cones and shut things off, but we said, uh, where we have the high water, it
comes up so high that the cones float away. Well, hopefully they won't float away on beach or Atlantic because we know that that's the high roads. And they're not going to put con they're not going to put cones on every back street either. No, I know. I mean, it can't hurt to try and we can have a plan for next summer to
try it out like try at 12 because everything in between there is total I mean total underwater if you had something at angle side something at six and then something at 12 just saying like like just like closed boulevard closed and an arrow facing to facing
towards because a lot of people that were here they didn't know what to do well that's the thing a lot of people just and they have no idea and some people just the higher ground. I'm Everybody that we saw we're like go up to the back roads and they go up to a back road and then they go down a couple blocks and come back down to the
boulevard because for some reason they don't want to drive on the back road. I know. We have to try We just have to try something and we who does the NIXL because emergency man. Okay. Because I get Nixl I got Nixl alerts from Township but not like like even we got alerts
like Beach Haven Boulevard closed from Angleside to 12th Street. Head toward the ocean. We can put that out. That's not a problem. I think we just need to just It's just them actually listening to it. It doesn't happen like the Yeah,
we don't have boulevards closed. That's the thing. Bay We put Bay Avenue is closed. Yeah. because I didn't I don't know why I'm not like but the problem is like I said Long Beach closed down the boulevard from 34th Street down it was closed and they were still driving past
we're going to put that in our rental in our letter too that goes out like we're going to put like and then everyone that rents like and they have they're on our rental list like you need to put this in your rental like when they walk in this is the nixel put it in your phone if it's flooding
and you're out the door you're going to get it it's going to say like you We we'll put we'll put it out more often. Um we just have when like I said they shut down from 34th Street South and the amount of cars that came past my house. Oh yeah.
I mean it didn't even it didn't even they went around Long Beach's going well Long Beach's cones were floating away but they went around them and even the streets that they were trying to get them to go up those streets were flooded. So, they were trying to send them up 16th and 16th was too deep for cars to go through and that was the
lowest lowest run. Yes. I have a question and I don't know if it's legal or not, but if if we had pictures of people creating weight, could they be ticketed for that? You're sending them to the registered owner and then what happens is it comes to court and they're like, you got to prove who was driving.
So, okay. So, the vehicle wouldn't be No, it's it's not not going to work. I mean, you know, court wise, it's not going to work. They're all gonna get thrown out and okay, our judge is going to uh give us a scolding for Okay, just curious. Somebody had
mentioned that. Can't you take pictures? And I said, I really don't know if you send it. We're we're trying. So, we are trying. We had that night we had uh we had cars parked at all the areas that we to try to stop people. But then what happens is
you have the people who come off of, you know, we're at 12th Street and we're down, you know, at Center Street and further south trying to get people to go up to the back roads. You have people leaving the side streets like Delaware Avenue coming off of Delaware Avenue up to the boulevard and they get up to the
boulevard and as soon as they hit the higher spot in the boulevard rather than going across to get up to the back road, they cut down the road and we're not there. We just don't have enough people to to monitor every street. I mean, this last one we had the most people
that we we could possibly have because we had all our summer people out there up to their waists in water. Um, and you know, it they don't listen to you. They don't they won't stop for you because they're at that point they're afraid to stop in the water. So, they just, you know, punch their
$100,000 car and and go until it starts to float and then they break down and and call you. We have to get the fire company to help us push them out of the water. So, thank you. Yeah, I didn't know. There's no easy solution. No, there certainly isn't. Just put some type of
put it out more often that it's closed, but they're not going to listen to us. And you know, once panic sets in, it's every every little bit of common sense that they actually had left is gone. Yeah. Yeah. It might deter a couple because when I
see that when I see the barrel there with the arrow, you know, I want to go straight ahead because I want to go down the boulevard and I want to do 15 miles per hour on Atlantic. But if I see the barrel there and the arrow, I'm like, God, I have to like because I'm it just there might be it might deter all. No, a
few hopefully. Yes. Right. Can't hurt. Yeah. We actually um we put that Nixel out more than 24 hours ahead of it and also listed there was the high tides, right? So we listed that the second high tide the following day was going to be the highest one
um for vehicles to be moved to higher ground to take the back roads, everything like that. And I can tell you how many Nixo alerts is there a specific amount that you're allowed to do? There is. We have a cap. It's uh there's a certain per
I think we can do I think we do like 500,000 but it depends on how many people are signed up for it and how many times it's going out. So like right now we're at threequarters of what threshold is because rather than like 24 I mean 24 hours is great but nobody's no one cares. But we don't know that far out. So up
into 24 hours we didn't get a notification from county uh emergency management whether or not we were going to be impacted by that. So once we got that notification then the notifications went out here ship autumn Cedars we all put our notifications out within 24 hours of that right to let everyone know.
Yeah. A big a big problem with you know Hurricane Aaron is that it wasn't raining. So people were like it's not raining but they didn't realize that the surge is coming. It's not it's that's coming. And I could tell you from personal experience like the chief said that when I was personally pushing a car out of
the water that was driving through it. I had three more behind me that were coming down the same road as I'm pushing the car out across the boulevard and then pulls onto the boulevard instead of continuing to go across the high ground. It almost has to be like three hours before the bay before the high tide in
the bay. So, it'll be when the high tides hit the ocean, the Nixel goes out like it's coming. You got two and a half hours. And we can do is we can work harder. I think the only thing that we're going to be able to do with this um given that it's a county road and our limitations with personnel is uh just more public
education. I think that's probably the best and only way that we're going to have to do it is maybe putting out there what streets can be taken when and see if it makes some kind of an impact. I think we have like 13 13 abandoned vehicles that you know disabled vehicles in that last one because people were
just driving through that water. Um so yeah, we'll work on it. All right. Thank you, gentlemen. That's all we can do. Thank you. Okay. Um, anybody else in the audience like to come up and comment on anything?
Hello, Bob Aker. I live at Station Plaza condos. My understanding from a message that was sent to us from our association president is that during severe flooding and when we evacuate
that only placards will only be given to one person or our entire condo association. As a homeowner, I would like to be able to get back into my property. I was here during Sandy, had about four and a half
feet of water. I was able to get back on the island once that was allowed. Fortunately, I had a placard. So, I'm not really sure I understand the policy why one person out of 24 units
would get a placard and not the rest of us. I am a home homeowner. and ma I am a taxpayer so I don't understand that policy Mr. background. You know, we've heard from numerous people with the same concern and we had we did discuss this
at length in our August meeting and our emergency management coordinator, Bill Trum was here and the explanation and it was interesting. You said you have a placard. You were never supposed to You said you have one from before, right? Right. And that's good through the end of the year. Um they were apparently mistakenly sent out at one point to some
condo owners. Our thinking is that we want our emergency management coordinators meeting with all the other island coordinators when this policy was set up apparently like 20 years ago. It was that condos weren't um three plus condo units were not supposed to get
them. The manager of the unit was supposed to to limit traffic coming on while things are still in a state of chaos basically. Um, we understand that some of the towns may have changed that and our emergency coordinator is going to meet with the others in November and
revisit it and we will also revisit it at that time. I understand what you're saying. Yeah. I don't It seems discrimination. I mean, I can't go save my property like all the other homeowners. I think that's absurd. My other point is
uh the speed at which some are traveling along Atlantic and beach avenues. My wife and I walk almost every day probably about 45 miles an hour some cases and and even electric bikes going that
fast 30 seconds. In one sec in one case the girl riding the bike was going in the wrong direction. So, I don't know if there's any plan to put some some more police officers at
that on those locations who certainly help. Thank you. You are correct. And the electric bike uh subject has come up numerous times and it is a problem. It's actually statewide and I hope that maybe by next summer. I
mean, the fact of the matter, it always sounds like we're making excuses, but we have been way below our police aotment for the last five or six years. We are supposed to have at least 11, 12 more officers, and they're just not applying. So, you know, I think they're doing the best they can, but there are, you're
right. I mean, I live between, you know, Beach and Atlantic, and I see it all the time, too. the enforcement. These electric bikes are a problem and I think we'll have to talk about it. But outside enforcement, one of them almost ran me over a right
passing on the right on a onelane road, passing a car and just missing. I had to jump out of the way. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's Thank you very much. frightening. Yeah. Anybody else in the audience like to
speak? Uh, hi. I'm Joelclar. SK K L A R. I um I'm a resident at the Renaissance condos on Center Street here in Beach Haven. Um, unit number seven. It's one Center Street number 17.
And I just want to re uh emphasize the concerns Mr. backards made about the re-entry plan and the placards. Um, for some reason, I guess we can thank the US Post Office. I never received a letter in the mail um advising us of the uh I
think there was a letter sent to condo owners advising people of the change in uh upcoming policy about uh on re-entry. And I happened to read in the Sandpaper a letter to the editor. I'm guessing you probably saw it um about the concerns a
woman had on And yeah, I think those concerns are extremely valid. I would like to add to those concerns that it so the Renaissance condo has 26 units. This would place a very uh large in burden on
the the president or representative of the condo association to check on 26 units. um they would probably have some, you know, liability risk they they shouldn't have to undertake having to do, you know, to do that to assess damage and
what whatever, you know, everything that somebody wants to do after a uh you know, recovered a disaster on the um I was I was here uh during Hurricane Sandy and was able to uh you know, I had a placer and was able to get onto the island and it was very reassuring to be
able to um inspect and assess my own unit and I can't imagine one person asking one person to have to look at, you know, 26 units and I I can't I don't know, you probably know the number of
multi-unit uh dwellings and condos where uh this would add to the trip, but I can't think that it's looking at the, you know, the cost benefit tradeoff. I mean, I I would think that it would be um prudent to
have to allow the uh all the condo owners and other multi-unit um dwelling owners to uh you know, to be able to come onto the island. I think it could also I mean present a problem if you you know if you don't change this. I could
see uh possibly somebody being less compliant with the orders to evacuate in the case of a storm saying well I'm not going to be able to get back on the island and inspect my 30 seconds and Okay. Thank you. So I I you know I think that that's a concern and then as
Mr. tracker had pointed out we uh you know we paid taxes here and we had this is a right we had previously it worked you know I thought it worked well during Sandy and it would be a dimination of our rights and maybe even our property values not being able to uh have have
the right to uh for re-entry in case of such an an emergency. So anyway, thank you for listening to me. I appreciate it. Thank you. I plan on coming we are revisiting this this issue. It's not going away. We're going to discuss it. I'm sorry that it's not
No, no. I said it's not it's not done. Okay. We're waiting to hear from our emergency management coordinator when he meets with the rest of the island and then we will make a decision together. Okay. Great. And will there be further opportunity in November? It sounds like
during a council meeting or Sure. If it's uh you know, you'll know after we make that decision or while we make the decision, but certainly you're always allowed to comment. Okay. Well, thank you. But I appreciate your listeners. Certainly. Thank you. Just personally, I you know, in the beginning of this discussion, I was
never I never realized that it was a mistake that you had all gotten your placards during Sandy during that year, but it all worked out. I mean, it was, you know, a terrible time for for Long Beach Island, but um everyone was respectful to for the most part, and I
think it worked out. So, I I've switched courses and I'm hoping that with um the meetings with our emergency management team that we will be able to give you backwards. That's my personal opinion. So, I hope that you all get them. Anybody else in the public like to
speak? Chade, I just wanted to address the um the complaints about the speeding on Beach and Atlantic Avenues. We know that's an issue. We do enforce speeding up there. It's not very frequent. I know a lot of
people will complain saying, you know, people are speeding and they're actually doing 25 or less. Um it you know that that's something that occasionally you do have cars that go faster. The problem with the ebikes though um they're when
they when they are able to go fast faster than 25 or they're going the wrong way, we're not allowed to pursue. State the state says we are not allowed to pursue for a motor vehicle violation like that. So, um, us going the wrong
way on a one-way street, which isn't permitted, um, to pursue an ebike that's speeding, going the wrong way, is not permissible by the state of New Jersey. So, we can't do it. Um, and then also with the ebikes, we've had a lot of
problems with them. Um, we, you know, we try to stop them and they take off on us. And again, it's a motor vehicle infraction. We're not allowed to pursue them. So, drive on the sidewalk. We're not you. Well, we can if we can grab if we can grab them and stop them, we can do that.
But, you know, we can't we can't pursue. If they they turn around and go in opposite direction or they start cutting away from us, it it really soon becomes a pursuit and we're not allowed to pursue. So, you know, we uh we get in a motor
vehicle accident or um even the ebike, the rider of the ebike hits a pedestrian while we're going after them, we're all getting sued and it's uh and probably the officer is going to go to jail for that. It's it's not not permitted. So,
we will not pursue after the ebikes. Um how many accidents have have you had? Do we have any idea this summer as a result? I don't know that we had any actual accidents with ebikes. Um, that's a miracle. It is. Uh, but yeah, I I mean I'd have to look that up to see
if one or two, but I don't recall hearing anybody responding to an accident on an ebike. I've seen them now in 72. Oh, yeah. They they come from the mainland. They come over the bridge and they come down here. I mean, it's it's unfortunate something.
It always takes a tragedy to make a law in some cases. the the law in New Jersey hasn't quite caught up caught up with the ebikes because everything takes so long that uh you know the state has all these rules for certain ebikes have to be registered after they go over a certain speed.
How do you know? And then you well once they're going over that certain speed, you know, and we go to stop them and they continue, we have to stop. We're not allowed to pursue. I was in Cherry Hill a couple weeks ago going in a very busy street going from my mom's to the Cherry like Cherry Hill
Mall and there were like six teenagers on ebikes on this highway and they were purposely shutting down the traffic behind them and popping wheelies and you know and nothing nothing happened. I was not that
explains it probably because you can't and it's just so terrifying. I mean I mean it's horrible and I I was talking pursue all the time up there for for a violation for them going the wrong way on a oneway street. Do you really want a 10,000 pound
police SUV going? I'm not suggesting that you're not doing the right thing. It's just for us it's common sense wise it also totally agree. Yeah. I I don't want to put anybody in that position where I tell them to go out start going after these ebikes the wrong way on No. And I I'm not saying that. just
saying it's just such a tough situation for just trying to explain that to people because it's probably one of the biggest complaints. Yeah. One of the biggest complaints we get is about everybody justice reform act and ebikes
we yeah ebikes are a problem. We all know it and um we're just kind of stuck until we're able to until something changes happen. Are we able to ask people residents to register their ebikes? Would that do any good? So, the problem is that uh ebikes that go under a
certain speed, I off the top of my head, I don't remember what it is. I think it's 28 miles an hour or something. I I sent it to you, but um those ebikes can't be registered. They can't be registered. When you buy an ebike online, which I you can go and buy like Sir or what, you
know, all these different brand names. You can buy them online. They go 50 60 miles an hour. You get it shipped to your house. Well, it's it's illegal to ride it, but we can't stop them because they're going to take off on us. And, you know, you've seen the roads in Beach
Haven in the summertime. They're just too crowded for us to try to gr these people. And the AG guidelines say we can't. So, we're just, you know, we're stuck right now. Hands are tied. And then you you get the you get the person like, uh, last summer we did have
some incidents like that and we were able to finally catch some of the people. um you know they fled. We couldn't pursue. We were able to get them the next day. We took the ebike and we eventually had to give it back and uh
they got some motor vehicle tickets that didn't mean anything because they got some fines. The kid was like 14 or 15 years old. It doesn't doesn't really do anything. Yeah. They don't care. Can I circle back to flood while you're up here?
Sure. We were talking about ways to warn people. This would be I don't know instead of maybe our town or other towns could have a row of lights, you know, some flashing purple lights, green, not green, red,
something to say, you know, pay attention, pay attention with a little digital board beneath, you know, road flooded, use the beach road. Yeah. But I mean flashing should ugly. I've asked I've asked a lot. Um you know, we
have three sign boards right now that work. Um well, we have two that work continuously and um one that sometimes works. Um we use that one. We would they're all they're out there. They were out there in the floods. They had they had messages on them not to
drive through the flood waters. They didn't float away. They had the the one at 12th Street had was flashing with um with the tide times and stuff and and stay out of the flood waters. Uh it you know they they take a beating during the storms because when
people drive past them where it says don't don't drive through the flood water. As they pass through the flood water they throw salt water up onto the signboard and um you know that gets up into the electronics and that's why they don't last forever. But they are very expensive. Th those sign boards are
roughly 20 to $30,000 depending on I believe it. Yeah they're they're expensive. There's a lot of electronics in them. Maybe some kind of flashing warning system that's elevated. Maybe the whole island could use. Yeah. And the cones won't float away or And also I put these sign boards out and
then I have business owners and and residents who want them moved because they don't like they don't want to see them. So we uh you kind of have that issue going too. So we do something with the new lights like
just turn them all red, right? do something with the lights. There's so many every other If the county can give us permission to turn them all red, put it at add a fourth color.
There's a that's a that's a state thing. Love a disco ball. But I I do, you know, we're we're going to have a discussion in the next couple weeks, I believe. Uh I am going to ask for more sign boards um or at least one more but you know because of the one
that's failing us but um we use them they just they don't they don't listen to the messages that are on them. I I have people who we literally put a message out on a signboard and I get a phone call saying can you put this message on the sign board
and I'm it's on there. I go I go up to the signboard and I look at it and it says the it says the message on it and they just drove past it. They don't look at it. Yeah. So, um it's not always the horses. We We have the messaging system. People don't always look at it. And same thing
for the Nixl. I think a lot of people get the Nixl and they don't really read them. So, Well, thank you. Thank you. I know it's tough situation. Uh, anybody else in the room like to speak?
No. How about on Zoom? Michael W. Wr. Can you hear me? Yeah. Yes. Okay. Uh my name is Michael Waldman. I'm a 40-year resident uh a summer resident
of Station Plaza condo. Uh I've heard some of the concerns expressed here uh before, but I have had a couple of points I'd like to make. Uh number one, the uh a lot of the homeowners
uh use their resident as summer resident. They're not full-time resident. I think the full-time residents obviously need to get on the island as quick as possible. The the summer residents obviously we all want
to be treated the same way. Uh and with the policy the re-entry placard uh policy that's that's been um in front of us here uh is discriminating against
condo owners. Um I think there's a very simple solution though to this problem and I understand the reason for it is the traffic problem. Uh you know the congestion from the uh everybody trying
to come on for that initial inspection the one day inspection period. But a simple solution would be to give all the condo owners a different colored placard or the same placard if you will, but allow them to come on for the one day in
initial inspection on the following day after the business owners and the single family owners uh you know come on for the inspection. Plus, if we had the placards when uh it the island is open
up for residents to come on to clean up the the debris and everything from their units, we can't do it in one day, even if we came on and in the one day period. During Sandy, it took me a few weeks to
to clean up and, you know, really get get the unit back in shape. But uh if we were allowed to come on say the day after the business owners then uh we could do that initial inspection and then we
would also then possess a placard to come on when everybody's allowed to come on at the same time. You know a week or two later whatever it takes. 30 seconds. Uh that's basically all I had to say.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Orman. We did talk about staggering and things like that and that will be taken under consideration. Um, all I can tell you about people already having them in a condo is that supposedly that was a mistake last time around. Whether it was
a good mistake, bad, whatever, but we are going to look at it. I promise you. Anybody else on Zoom? John Dorian. Hi. Uh, can you hear me? Yes. Yes. Yes. Uh, this is John John Dorian. Uh,
3246 Street. Um, I'm just uh joining the meeting again. Um, it it's uh good to hear that there is a uh lengthy discussion about the flooding. If you recall last month, I I joined the
meeting and uh there was a lot of you know I I brought up the flooding from the you know from the uh the July flooding event and I was told well that was a rain event we couldn't do anything about it and and everything else and um and then when we had the flooding post
uh uh errand you recently um you know that that was you know that was an anticipated event and you know and I did see the the Nixl uh alerts that came out and everything and you know when I hear all the different uh you know discussions about um some of the
difficulties of closing the streets but um one of the things that uh I had proposed last time was also uh you know putting up road close signs on Delaware Avenue at least from Fifth to Taylor. So um if there are you know some you have
some uh you know discussions I would still like that to be revisited. Um, you know, last time I was told that couldn't have been anticipated. This one was definitely anticipated. The Nixel alerts came out saying that there was going to be flooding, you know, and that was a tidal flood event because of uh what
happened with Darren and and the high tides and whatnot. Um, once again, we had uh, you know, big wakes coming through. Uh, the neighbors across the street at the station condos uh, you were getting water in their garages and everything. And um, yeah. So, I I
appreciate that that uh you know that there's been you know some further discussion and now you know uh appreciate you had the you know the the police uh chief talking about it and and some of the challenges with it but I would I still urge to you know to try to address that. Um, one other thing is
with the NIXLE alert, I mean, I kind of looked up at the old NIXL alert, and one of the things with the NIXL alert, I mean, it just says, you know, uh, flooding is expected through certain time on, you know, Tuesday or Thursday, whatever it was when it was, um,
might need to be a little more specific in terms of that of making the NIXL is saying, you know, avoid Bay Avenue, avoid avoid Delaware Avenue or something along those lines because the the alert word I got just says you know major flooding uh anticipated from this point
to that point and everything. So um once again uh uh appreciate that there's you know some further discussion about it and uh you appreciate the time. Thank you. Thank you Mr. Dory. Anybody else?
Bernardino. Hello. Can you hear me? Yes. Okay. Um, I too am going to uh echo the sentiments of the other neighbors on 6th and Delaware. State your address for the record, please. 601 North Delaware Avenue.
Thank you. I live I live on the corner of 6th and Delaware. and um obviously have concerns about the flooding that we've had um not once, not twice, but three times this summer with of course Aaron bringing the worst of the flooding. I'd like to ask
you to consider shutting down parts of Delaware Avenue and or putting one of the sign boards up on Delaware Avenue. Um had it not been for folks driving through the flood waters, we wouldn't have had water in our garages. The water
came up further than I've seen it in the past. I've been here 14 years. It came up about threequarters of the way on our driveways. However, it was the cars and the trucks that caused it to hit our garages and come into our garages. So, it's the speeding and the driving
creating the wakes and creating the flooding. So, I would urge you to please consider shutting down Delaware and or putting these sign boards up to get people to slow down, turn around, or go up to Atlantic and Beach. Um, second item is the emergency plaque cards.
Again, um, I happen to be the president of the association for Station Plaza condos, so I'm the lucky one that drew the placard. Um, however, as a homeowner here, I have to say that I do believe it's unfair that I'm the only one in the complex that's entitled to the placard.
And again, I urge the um town to reconsider and treat all of us as equals. We are all taxpaying homeowners and should be entitled to come to our home in case of emergency. Thank you. Thank you.
Anybody else? I don't see anyone else on Zoom. Okay. Seeing no one else, we'll close the floor to public comment and go to final remarks by council. And tonight we start with Mrs. Bono. Oh, because I have the pledge of allegiance. Allegiance. Okay.
Um Okay. Well, thank you everyone for coming. We hear your concerns. We'll work through uh this fall and winter, working out uh some type of plan for the flooding with our emergency management team and and our our police department.
And of course revisiting the PLA revisiting the plaque art situation. It's interesting because the color coding doesn't work because every municipality has a different color. So that's not going to work. Um as far as color coding and uh you know every
municipality has their own emergency management plan with different I I even think in Harvey Cedars it's only year- round residents allowed to come through. So everyone has their own particular type and their reason for it. But again, it's it's a conversation that
we we're going to, you know, revisit when they all meet and discuss because I'm sure that all the five other municipalities are getting the same concerns from from property owners and and also people that you know that rent year round. But I believe that if you do have if you do live here, well, not for
Sandy, I just showed my license because I was renting. I wasn't a homeowner then and that and that was fine. Um, but you know, it's a conversation that we'll have this winter some something to work on. Um, other than that, uh, I hope everyone had an excellent summer spending time with their family and
friends, and now we get to enjoy a little peace and quiet, a little fall season here, and, uh, looking forward to it. Thank you, Mr. McAffrey. Summer's done. Now it's kind of like our time of year where we enjoy the fest
festivities around here. We have the child cookoff coming up, the fireman's fundraiser, and there's quite a few other things. That's about all I ask. That's okay. Thank you, Mrs. Snider.
Thank you. Thank you all for coming tonight. Um, it's a good meeting. I think it's always good to when we have the time to be able to engage with the public. Uh, I really appreciate your attendance. Um I'm sure Colleen will speak to this as well, but um very my my
heart goes out to the Larsson family in Barnagate Light. We lost um Mayor Larson uh suddenly and it's really uh a great loss for the Long Beach Island community, Ocean County. He's a great guy. He fishing industry just I mean
really a wonderful mayor and uh one of the good guys. a wonderful family and my heart goes out to all of them. Thank you. Thank you, Sanderson. Thanks for coming and expressing your concerns. I think if I were a condo
owner, I'd be up where you are, too, saying, you know what, I pay taxes. That's my feeling. Um, and I want to express my condolences to the Larsson family and the entire Barnaglight community on the loss of uh Kirk Larson. He was a well-known man.
That's it for me. Okay. Thank you. Um, couple things. I just got this right before we came to the meeting. Um, BJ Haven Elementary is celebrating U Patriots Day. They're having a ceremony or for 911. Not celebrating, but they're observing, I
should say. Um, it'll be at 8:25 at the flag pole out in front of the school and should last 15 to 20 minutes and everybody is invited to attend that. Um, this is super important. Um today I went to a meeting in Tom's River about real New Jersey. If you're not familiar, it
is with the new uh flood regulations that the state would like to pass. Um they did modify them somewhat, but to our way of thinking, not nearly enough. And there is a deadline for when anyone anyone public, council, anyone can make
their opinions and expressions known. And the county commissioners would love for everybody to do that. Um, there it is up on the screen. Sherry has it, Boris. The website is countyco.nj. us. And then you just type in the search
bar um, real New Jersey or New Jersey Real. I got it both ways. And then it there's a um, uh, it says you go to that page and it it says stop New Jersey Real. And that's what they want you to go to. and that you can email the DP,
the governor, and you can read for yourself all the facts, everything that's being done. And this is not good for the coastal communities. You're probably saying, "Oh, we're hearing all about flooding. Why are we doing this?" This 4-foot raise that they're asking for was based on we can't even figure
out what because it doesn't bear out with the science. It doesn't bear out with the statistics. It's all kinds of craziness. It's going to cost the taxpayers a fortune. It's going to cost uh the homeowners, the businesses, and there's a 17% chance according to their
data that there will be a 5-ft sea rise by 2100. Well, they just amended that to 4 feet, and it is still not accurate. They're going to reassess every 5 years. So, instead of raising it one foot, they went to the highest one right off the bat. They didn't take into account
historic structures, although they are thinking of making allowances for low income and um affordable housing. So again, how does that make sense? The rest of us have to do it, but you don't. So kind of thing. You're talking about equality. So please do this. The county
is really pushing us do it. And it would help considerably if they heard from a lot of residents and citizens, everybody. Um, and the last thing too, I would like to extend my heartfelt condolences to the family of Mayor Kirk Larson for Barnagate Light. Not only to
his family, but to his town, his friends, his colleagues at the firehouse. and certainly to the whole east coast fishing community because Kirk was a big important role in the entire east coast not just Viking village. Uh Kirk was my classmate sat
behind me in home room row for six years he was a friend and a mentor and I think not just light the entire island as has already been said we have lost a real real gentleman and somebody who was a huge part of this community. So I hope
rest in peace Kirk. Yeah. And basically I guess that's it. So if there are no Colleen I forgot. I'm sorry to to add this but um I think it's important for the public to know that we as a council have um written a letter in you know um
to real New Jersey. Yeah. Yes. All the towns, many towns, I forget how many of the numbers up to have written a lot, you know, a resolution and saying, you know, we are not on board with this and we are doing everything we can as a council, but even as individual council members, they're urging us to do it.
They're urging everybody and don't hold back. Let them know what you think because apparently this was done by an executive order. It wasn't even done through the normal channels. So, that's concerning to me as well. So, and we'll be the end of our business district as we know it. That's for sure.
And our historic district will be And the historic district will be no more. Is the letter on your website? So, if you want to have the same point, would you mind? Yes, that the website is the one that I think you're wrote. Pardon? The one that Mr. Little wrote.
Oh. Oh. Oh. Put that on the letter that we're sending together. Yes. Yeah, I can post that. Okay. Yeah. Great. Thanks. Yeah. use the same form. If you give me your email, I'll forward it. Anything else? No.
Okay. On that note, we are adjourned. Is there a motion? I should say I'll make the motion. Okay. Thank you. Thank you all very much for coming out today. Oh my gosh. W state.