Yeah, she is. Good evening. It is Thursday, January 29th, 5:30 p.m. This is a special meeting of the Burough Beach Haven to discuss the community development block grant. Please join us for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you. Pursuant to the New Jersey Open Public Meetings Act, adequate and electronic notice of this meeting has
been provided by posting on the bulletin board in the Beach Haven Municipal Building on the Burough website and mailing the same to the Beach Haven Times, the Asbury Park Press, and the Press of Atlantic City. Miss Anderson >> here. >> Mrs. Ball Miller
>> on her way. >> Mr. McAffrey >> here. >> Miss Snder >> here. Mayor Lambert here. >> Okay. This is our second meeting regarding the 2026 community development
block grant. We are considering two projects at this point. Uh the first being a viewing platform at the Bayside Street end at Chadzsworth Avenue and the other project being a um handicap
accessible sidewalk on the south side of Amber Street. council, if you'd like to discuss those two projects and then we'll open it to public comment. >> Okay. I know um Miss Anderson is going to kind of take the lead on this. Um we
do have a bit of a conundrum and I will let her explain. >> Okay. I hope anybody can hear me. >> Good. Lou and clear. >> Here comes Jamie. I don't know how many of the neighborhood people are on Zoom. I
think most of them are aware that the conundrum is the fact that department of transportation has road work planned for the end of Chadzsworth sometime in like probably 2027 >> and uh it truthfully doesn't make sense to build a platform to move it in a year
or take it apart. That's my personal opinion. If uh people on Zoom want to speak to that, feel free come time. Um, I I myself would like to extend thanks to fellow council members and Steve Les
and Sherry Mason for being receptive to the idea of putting it back as it was built with community block grant money and it served a lot of purposes. You know, this this little space that everybody a lot of people love. So, we'd like to keep that going. And um
I'll read one thing. Uh it kind of resounded through all the letters that you I got at least 10. I don't know if you all got 10 or more, >> but um it it says, "Restoration of the dock not only honors the intent of past
investments, but also reaffirms the bureau's commitment of inclusive, accessible public spaces that enhance the quality of life for residents and visitors of all ages and abilities. So, it really does serve a purpose. And um
again, personally, I think the road work ought to happen and know, you know, if we can get it on record or in our minutes, whatever, that yes, down the road it will be replaced. I think we I'm okay with it. Let's see what the zoomers
say. Thank you. The council want to jump in first or >> Yeah, I'll jump in. I was speaking to the mayor about this earlier and um I actually have no confidence that the county is ever on time or their schedule
and I feel like this is such a little small project and a chance to make many people happy and I just feel like the way that things are built now there's ways to easily take them down and I think that we should just build it.
That's how I feel. I did make that comment where maybe you could build it in, you know, two sections, three sections. Yeah. >> You know, bolt it together, bolt the two or three sections together, the ramp being one of them, and a little It's possible to do that. >> It It's just such a minuscule thing. And
again, um it just I'm always just used to making so many people unhappy that if this is a chance to make a small amount of people happy, and I get it. I mean the you know that special hour when the sun goes down means so much to people
and let's I don't let's just do it. Why why are we even like saying take it down and we have to build it again then we build it again. It's not a big thing. That's I mean that's how I feel. It's just >> you do have Steve Lets on um Zoom tonight if you would like to inquire
that of him. >> I'd like to hear from Steve. >> Is it Steve? Have you got any ideas on building it in two or three sections? >> Can you hear me? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Uh I'm not for building it in two or
three sections. We're going to put vinyl benches there like on the end of every other street temporarily until we can rebuild it permanently. So, there's going to be seating there. There's going to be seating there at the at the at the ends. Um we're going to redo the top of the bulkhead and put
vinyl get rid of the wood and put vinyl there. Now we're going to put benches at the end of at the end of the street so they can still be used. People can still be sitting on it watching the sunset. >> Just won't have the platform until after the grant is until after the road work is complete.
>> And I just want to point out Jamie that the road work is not county road work. It's funded by DOT but we handle those DOT projects and we are usually on time every year. >> Okay. Right. I mean, I can respect that. And if there's any way to push the
roadwork up to simultaneously do it, that would be more advantageous. I mean, again, we have multiple people in a specific area that are asking for something. And is there any way to to uh push this up to this year?
>> Like this, >> we fund the DOT project when we do capital each year. So in the 2026 capital, we'll fund the 2027 project and that's how we've been doing it every year. So we don't have an appropriation as of right now.
>> I mean honestly the pictures that I saw at the end of chat the end I mean I'm not I'm not going to argue just the end of Chhatzsworth to me the storm drains are that wasn't the storm drains on the end of Chadzsworth. those pictures that I saw >> and I couldn't go
>> they were the end of >> there's one onorth that's being replaced on the on the um on the west side it's wide open and then the drain the drain goes out through the bulkhead that's being that storm drain being replaced the worst the worst ones are on Belvoir
but trash work is also being replaced so >> right the pictures of the really the really bad ones were at the end of Belvoir of the ones that you sent me the picture. Three of them are at Belvar, one is at CH, three are at Belvar, one are at Chhat, one is at Chadzsworth,
>> and it's wide open. There's there's nothing keeping anything from going down in it. So, it needs to be replaced. It's not just them streets. We're starting on the north side, the north end of West a going to start replacing the work, the bad ones all the way south, future projects.
Michael or Kitty, you want to jump in here? There's >> one at my curb and it's newer. >> Yeah. Uh >> I believe that the project should go forward, but I also believe that they should do the road work before they do it. And this would also give you a little bit of time to where you could
design it or get input on a design of what uh the town people would want, the people from that area. >> Okay. Thank you. Yeah, I I respect what Jamie is saying and um I often agree with Jamie, but I think I
don't know. I feel that it would I think since Sher said this project will happen because um we can control that. I trust that it will. And so I mean it would be a shame to dig to rip it up and then replace it. It's a shame that we didn't,
you know, >> have all the information. Whether it was available to us, probably not before we >> decided to do this, but um probably should have asked first, but because we unanimously approved removing it. Um
therefore, I think that waiting a year, year and a half makes sense. um unfortunately and that if we do that we'll put four benches there like we pro I'd like to see you know in a certain um location so that it you know helps the
neighbors feel closer together than just two benches facing west you know having a floor and L-shape so that you can create conversation areas and >> hopefully make it amendable until we can build the other the um the new one
makes sense to me even though I know it's not what everybody wants to hear. >> Yeah, I have to agree with that. Um I think we're all on board about replacing as is as what the people have requested when we learned about the DOT project
and I did ask I said is there any way we can move it up and as Sher just said no. So I hope sincerely that it's only once summer. But the other thing is too that I think with the green acres money that we just began that we can also cover it.
So it's not a matter it has to be the community development block grant. >> So I don't want people to feel that this is your one and only opportunity and it cannot be built. U I checked and it can be and I would prefer rather than to have to rip it all up again. even if
it's built in parts or stages or phases, I think it makes more sense to put in an interim seating arrangement for this summer and then hopefully by next summer and keep a good thought. But I I have no trouble making the commitment that I am
100% behind replacing it as it was. One of the thing I do think that everybody liked about it is that it was it blended right in with the bay and the dock and it was just all wooden and really, you know, just a a nice neat little area. And I'd like to see it built the same
way. Yes. >> You know, I I personally don't want to see some grandiose platform there >> with vinyl colors. And I don't I want to see it nice and like natural looking the way that it was. And then and then I would wholeheartedly support it. We also
had the luxury of it being a year where we could plan on what it looks like and take input from the community as to maybe how it would be built. >> Yeah. And also it would we could build it in house hopefully. >> Keep the cost down which is important. >> Save a lot of money. Yes. >> Yeah. >> So that we vote on it and then the
zoomers. >> No, let the zoomers speak before we do any kind of voting. I want to hear what everybody has to say. >> One other question. Sorry, Sher. You said that the sidewalk at Amber was the south side. Is it the south side of the park or the south side of Amber? It's
>> the south side of the park. And I wanted while we >> That's what I thought. Not the south side of the street. >> Okay. >> Um touch on that project real briefly. Thank you, Steve. >> Yeah. >> The the sidewalk from on the on the south side from the corner going towards
the driveway where the handicap parking is has cracks and it's unlevel. And I want to um there's no handicap where the handicap parking spots are. There's no ADA compliant ramp for someone to come from the parking spot to the sidewalk.
So I'd like to have that repaired. >> That's great. I just know that. Sorry. I knew she I knew when she went I just wanted to clarify that it was south side of the park. >> Correct. >> Not ever. Thank you. >> Southwest corner.
>> Thank you. Um do we want to begin? Let's begin hearing from our um residents on Zoom. >> Sure. Anyone on Zoom wish to be heard? You can raise an electronic hand so I can unmute you. Susan Murphy.
>> Hello, this is Sean Crims and Susan Murphy, 316 Chadzsworth Avenue. We'd like to thank the council for taking this up and listening to us. I just wanted to know with a show of hands, how many of the council people have seen a
picture of this little platform? >> I've been there. We all have. Yeah, we all been down there. >> It might have been kind of recently, but yes, they've seen it. >> It's a tiny little thing. And and when you when everybody talks about it, I think even some of the people are
getting confused that this is this huge ramp and platform. Um it's completely different from having a bench there. And we've already gone over what the point is. A year and a half seems incredible to have this little thing here. I don't remember it being bolted to the ground
or to the dockage. It's almost something that could be moved like a little platform you'd have if a band was playing in a your backyard or something to just be moved and do the work. So, this three-part construction is confusing even me, but it is important
and it's something that we got together with. Unfortunately, some of our residents are older and a couple of them got ill and they couldn't make the meeting tonight or get to Zoom because we've gotten quite a few emails. But we do appreciate your uh your time putting
into it and uh this was something that was for the whole community. It wasn't just for, you know, a dozen homes there. Uh it was a fishing and crabbing spot and one of the few that was left on the bay. And probably, and I think you could all say, uh it's probably more like two
years away for having this project done for this tiny little deck. It the ramp is inconsequential at all. It shouldn't have been called a ramp. It was just so you wouldn't have to step up onto this little 12-in platform. And that platform had benches. So while sitting there, you
could crab and fish and see the sun go into the water. So we're all going to miss it very much. And it's something that, you know, will make us very sad. So that's all I wanted to say, but thank you for your time. >> Thanks. Thank you.
>> Thank you. Anyone else on Zoom? >> Could lift it up. >> I don't see any other hands up. Colleen, >> no other hands up. >> No. >> Okay,
hang on. I'm not sure if we have >> I think that's >> Oh, okay. All right. Um, if there are Hi, gentlemen. Any chance? Are you here to speak about the uh block grant? >> Hi. No, we're here to speak about the
>> transients. Okay, that's coming up later. Okay. Um, thank you. All right. Seeing no one else is on Zoom that wishes to speak to this matter um as we take a vote on how we're going to proceed with the block grant.
>> Yes, please. >> Sherry, do you want to do it or you want me to lead it? >> Uh, yeah, if you could, Colleen, just um >> Sure. Okay. All right. We have two options as we just discussed. The the viewing platform at Chadzsworth, the sidewalk repair at Amber for this year's
community development block grant. Um, is there a motion to approve the sidewalk at Amber? >> I'll make the motion. >> I'll second it. >> Thank you, Miss Anderson. >> Mrs. Anderson,
I will vote in favor of the Amber Street project. I think there was talk of maybe doing both from the uh community block grant money. >> I think just we we also are talking about just for the viewers on Zoom, anybody that can
hear, we don't have to use community block grant money for this project at Chadzsworth. So correct, >> there's no reason not to vote for the >> right >> Amber Street. Yes. Very good point. So you are a yes. >> I'm a yes. Very >> smaller. >> Mr. McAffrey.
>> Yes. >> Mrs. Snider, >> yes. >> And I say yes also. So motion carries. Five votes. >> Thank you so much. That's wonderful. So at this point, we'll move on to the uh regular agenda meeting items. Um the
finance report I do have and I will just include that in the minutes of this meeting. Okay. >> Can we start 15 minutes early? Yeah. Are we okay starting early? >> Okay. I didn't realize. Yeah. Let's take a recess then. It's 47. We'll take a recess till 6 o'clock.
>> Yeah. Okay. Yeah. >> A couple minutes. >> Yeah. I was going to say in case people were waiting on that. All right. And thank you everybody from >> Are we ready to reconvene? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Welcome to the Burough Beach Haven agenda meeting.
>> It's Thursday, January 29th at 6 PM. >> Do we roll call again? >> No, we're not going to do roll call again. Um um but I see the finance report is on the agenda. I will include that in the minutes um for minutes for approval. I have the November 25th, 2025
executive session and a January 2nd, 2026 reorganization meeting for approval without formal reading. >> Okay. Anybody have an issue with those? >> No. Is there a motion to approve? >> I'll make the motion. >> Second. >> All in favor?
>> I. >> Yes. >> Thank you. Meet motion approved. All matters listed under item consent agenda are considered to be routine by the municipal council and will be enacted by one motion in the form listed. Any items requiring expenditure supported by a
certification of availability of funds and any item requiring discussion will be removed from the consent agenda and discussed separately. All consent agenda items will be reflected in full in the minutes. Resolution 33, returning remaining offduty police detail escrow.
36 approving expenditure in an amount not to exceed $172,4942 slightly lower than what was listed on the agenda for the purchase of two Chevrolet Tahoe for the police department. Uh 38 returning piling
bonds. 43 acknowledging managerial appointments to the land use board. 44 authorizing the award of a non-fair and open contract for professional services not exceeding 17,500 for our uh HPAC attorney and for
floodplane administration services. Resolution 45, authorizing execution of a shared service agreement with Ocean County for participation in the prosecutor's program, the fatal accident support team. 46 is authorizing the
refund of a 2026 certificate of smoke detector carbon monoxide alarm compliance fee. 47 is acknowledging the hiring of a full-time laborer to the Department of Public Works. 48 authorizing to advertise for bids for
water and sewer department parts. 49's adjusting the salary for employee number m10. And finally, resolution 50 is budget transfers. Okay, thank you. Um, is there anybody who would like to remove anything for
discussion? >> Not me. >> No. Seeing none, is there a motion to approve the resolutions within the consent agenda? >> I'll make a motion to approve. >> I'll second. >> Thank you. Uh, let's see.
Miss Anderson, >> yes. >> Mrs. Biller, >> yes. >> Miss Snder, >> yes. >> Mr. McAffrey, >> yes. >> Mayor Lambert, >> yes.
>> Thank you. I have a bill list this evening in the amount of $1,62. Um, I'm sorry, $62,52062. >> Everybody have a chance to review the bills? >> Yep. >> Okay. Is there a motion to approve?
>> I make a motion to approve the bills. >> I'll second it. >> Thank you, Miss Anderson. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Ball Miller? >> Yes. >> Mr. McCaffrey? Yes, >> Miss Snder. >> Yes, Mayor Lambert.
>> Yes. >> Under general discussion, uh, number one is the residential decorative LED lights. Uh, Councilwoman Ball Millard. So last year I observed a few uh decks,
rooftop decks with uh decorative lights continuously all year round like a strobing light, multicolored light and uh this and that. And it's kind of like taken a little bit of a not I want to say a increase but it's
it's increased. It feels like, you know, when one person sees something, then the next person sees something, and the next person sees something, and then it was an email that that we got of a house. I I don't recall what street that it was, but now the the whole house is decorated
um after, you know, the season's over and continuously, and that is a trend. I mean, I I actually had a conversation uh this summer with someone who was, you know, putting their lights up for supporting the Phillies and keeping them on red and then turn, you know, there's
companies now that go out and put them on. They have year- round lights and put them on for, you know, every single holiday and every single celebration and this and that. Well, it seems good for, you know, the individual. Maybe not the
community would appreciate. Um, maybe you could just put out your garden flag instead of uh your life gear. And now there's displays, too. So, the next step would be music. You know, now you have your music in the back and you have your house strobe lights, LED moving. And if
one neighbor gets it, I know that the next neighbor will get it and the next neighbor. And we're trying to kind of keep it a little bit more of a >> subtle >> subtle or like a coastal feel, you know, hometown feel. cedar shake feel not you know that that's not really the type of
look that I don't think that we're looking for here in Beach Haven. So I was and there have been towns that have um made ordinances where they limit total outdoor lighting decorations from
you know the period November 1st to February 1st. I' I've seen that. So, I just wanted to see if, you know, if that's something that council just wants to kind of keep um looking at or it's just these type of displays are pretty
expensive to put to get to get on your house. >> So, when they start happening, then making an ordinance would, you know, would be costly to someone getting that done and then, you know, could only put it on during when everybody else
would put it on. I mean, we could just look at it if you want to or I mean, I I just really feel like it's not necessary. Um, especially since our houses are so close together that uh I just think it's >> Yeah, I didn't even realize we were
going to be discussing this until it was on the agenda and I asked about it, but I I I completely agree with you. I I think when you say you don't want people to turn their lights on and have decorative lights, I I know that's not what you mean, but I mean you can't to leave them
on 24 hours, all the time, all winter long, all summer long. Um, as we all know, I mean, I have a neighbor who always has their outside light on. He refuses to turn it off. It shines right in my other neighbor's window. It drives them crazy and they don't speak because
of it. I mean, it's it's ridiculous, but it's true. And um I do think that some of the lights maybe not in Beach Haven but around have gotten kind of out of control and they're fun at Christmas and they're expensive like I like you said.
So put them on turn them on and then turn them off at when you go to bed at night. You know, don't don't leave them on if you're going to put them on your house. I also know that we don't allow flood lights on ocean fronts, but I know that some of the ocean fronts do have flood lights on the beach, which is to
me really egregious. I'm really against that. You know, many towns um have lights out for migration of birds. That is really important, especially where we live. We're right in a, you know, a migration um pattern. So, I'm I agree
with Jamie. I don't know how that would look or how we would work on that and look at other towns who have similar ordinances. >> I found some towns with >> but I'm in favor of it for sure. >> Similar ordinances, but I just wanted to get a feel on council if it's something you want me to continuously look at and
bring back a draft or something with a little bit more evidence or you just want to squash it and say forget it. Don't waste your time. I'd like to look at I mean on HPAC I know they're looking at um now one of the things one of the questions that is asked of new
construction has to do with lighting because so many neighbors have complained about new construction and being lit up like you know I don't know what you know the Taj Mahal or whatever not even if it's smaller with all this LED lighting because LED lighting has changed the
look of lighting >> and and it to me it's offensive Many times, sometimes it's not, but many times it is. So, we have it's something I think we could look at. I'm in favor of it. >> Okay, Mr. McCaffrey, want to go next?
>> Sorry, went on. Personally, I kind of like the LEDs as long as they're lowkey. Uh, the bright lights, maybe we could do something with turn them uh turning them off at a certain
time. We're talking about year round decorating your house with LED lights >> and rooftop decks. >> It's like on the deck. >> Yeah, because some of the stuff is it I think does look nice, but I guess you're
going to have to limit it somewhere along the line because I like when it accents the house. But that's my my opinion. Um, as far as the brighter lights, no, they they have to be off at a certain amount of time cuz that just into, you know, it
goes into everybody's rooms. You're trying to get a little baby to sleep or whatever it may be. And it's they sort of light up everything. >> Yeah, we're talking year round decorative lights. >> Yeah, I know. And I mean, I think this is a subjective, you know, choice. You have your home.
It's mine. My home is not offensive. It's it's beautiful. And so you're my neighbor and you're like I hate the way you know. So it is a slippery slip. We have to be careful because we don't you know want to bend people's >> it's just a matter where >> where do you draw the line with the >> the lights out front the solar lights
and >> I think you're talking about wrapping your house in lights basically like lining it and also the rooftop decks that are out of control in the summer. So definitely >> brighten your soil up. >> Yes. I'm just doing research and
>> Yeah. at it. Then too much could happen. Like you said, it could get away from you and it's like then when you do. >> Yeah. Well, you only can make something if you can enforce it. If you can't enforce it, you don't do. >> Do you want to think or >> No, just I could see where you know, you
don't want too much time to go by without thought on it because >> Yeah. Like you said, it's a trend and you don't have to take them down, but you can remote control and put all kinds
of colors and flashers and all. Okay. I my I understand what you're saying, but my concern is like a bit of overreach and you know, some people like the red, white, and blue house that we saw. What if you're a veteran or something that may be something that
appeals to you? Um, I was just reading the other day about this trend now for people light lighting their houses pink and red for Valentine's Day. Honestly, I don't have a big problem with it. My concern is um Oh, yeah. I know you you can go crazy with this. I mean, if you
wanted to look at like a time, but then again, of course, we get into the residential versus the business, you know, uh, >> right? But again, then people say, "Well, how come that, you know, >> I don't know. I just like think it's kind of a first amendment issue too that
if I want to if I'm, you know, Irish and I want my lights out on St. Patty's Day, how can you tell me no? I think yes, if there is a time limit to them or something like that, like they can't be on past a certain time or whatever and they can't because we have the glare law in Beach Haven. We have the ordinance
for the glare and if you got an issue, you call and it may have to be hooded, it may have to be turned, whatever. But I I think it's kind of a slippery slope when we start telling people how they can and can't light their houses. Just my opinion. Yeah, I I hear what you're I
you're right. I agree with that. But I I think what Jamie is talking about is the full scale not I mean I love I love Christmas lights and every holiday lights on my house. I love decor, you know. I I don't think that's what you're talking about. You're talking about
literally lining the house, the entire house with lights that are LED that are very bright on all the time, all night long, and the lighting up of the deck w with like you said, it can be like a laser show. And if it's it's not I don't think it would any ordinance is going to
say don't do it. It would just be a certain >> what's the term for >> lights? It's not velocity, but I don't know. It is a slippery slope, but I I wouldn't mind looking into it back with something. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Nothing against people decorating their
homes with Yeah. Some of them I think look nice and >> right. So do I. >> I have one for every season. >> You're what? >> Garden flag every season. >> Okay. >> I do like Christmas lights. I like Halloween lights. >> So Jamie's going to do a little more
research and come back to us because we all have different concerns here and just see if there's some middle ground or something. Um great flood plane administration. Sher, you want to take this? >> Yes. So um
the >> let's see the um cumbersome flood plane permits that we are required to issue uh seem to be evolving with the new real rules. And um
we are going to be having to do an amendment to this ordinance to at least increase the fee that we're collecting for these permits. Right now it's $25. Um at the current moment, Allison at Frank Little's office is handling these
permits. Um, but because of the evolution of these permits, Frank Little's office really is now backing away from offering these services. And tonight on the agenda, we um entered
into a contract with Water Wise um to take up this these this responsibility. So, I just wanted you to be aware that um there will be an ordinance coming together, a draft for flood plane administration that will at least increase the fee um needed for this
permit. I'm not quite sure what that fee will be. There's many parts to the permit now. Um and we also have our new flood plane administrator taking a closer look at the chapter to see if there's any other changes that will need to be made. But I just wanted to make
you aware that that ordinance is coming. Any questions with that? >> No, I don't because I've talked to you about it and I Yeah, I think it's necessary. It's gotten more complicated. >> Okay. >> And affordable housing. >> Yeah. The other thing with affordable
housing that, you know, we recently had some new legislation come down from the state and although we don't have anything substantial that's going to be changing in our ordinance, we are required to make some mandatory updates
to comply with the law. uh for mandatory set aside and the development fee ordinance. Nothing substantive but just to update the law to be in compliance with the law. So that will be coming as well. Um and then the third thing was
the transient boat slip definition and again councilwoman Ball Miller I think this is something that you wanted to discuss. >> Yeah. So at the um one of the roles of the land use board is to bring to council if there's any type of discussion that should be had on any
type of change in an order ordinance or an alter alteration or anything like that. And so our our definition of transient boat slip is any boat slip not designated and reserved for a specific vessel or individual at at which any vessel does not remain
docked overnight. So, the burrow has six transient slips or first slicks first six slips in front of um Parker's and um you can dock there, but you can't dock overnight. So, I wanted to see if uh we
wanted to change that to have a 24-hour notice versus not docking overnight. I mean, in the past, we have had boats that have had significant accidents because of um alcohol involved. I thought it would be a safer alternative,
but not to exceed 24 hours. But I just wanted to see if that was something that council wanted to entertain or or not. >> If it doesn't work out, you can change it back, right? People use it or
something weird happens or >> Well, I I um I >> Well, bad weather happens, you can. That's not >> I don't I I again this is just a discussion. No one's making a decision here. But um I don't see why we need to make them
overnight. I like that they're not overnight so that people don't keep their boat there overnight and the next night and the next night. If we don't if we do away with the um not overnight, then what's stopping a boat from staying
there for a couple days or a week and then we we you know we have so few transient slips in town. I just don't like to see them. I like to see them more available and you know coming and going. I I don't you know I listen I
don't want anyone to drink and drive or drive in any way while they're after they've been after they've drank too much. But I don't think it's our responsibility to I don't know if you know if you drink too much don't drive your boat home just
like you can't drive your car home. I mean you have to have some personal responsibility designated driver don't drink if you're driving your boat. I mean I that's a >> up to the individuals. >> I just wanted to bring it up. >> Yeah. >> To see if
>> what your thoughts were. >> Well, I I spoke to the chief about this because I was talking to different people today and again I I don't like the overnight because I think it can get out of hand. Um I do realize that there are people who will drink too much which
to me is a personal responsibility issue not our problem but it does exist. And there also people have engine problems or whatever. So I spoke to the chief and he didn't think it would be an issue that if anybody has a specific need on a specific night and needs to leave their
boat there overnight, they call the police department, make sure the police department is aware that that boat has been reported and it's gone the next day as soon as they can get there. But I don't really see the need to kind of go into anything too involved because, you
know, I think you're opening Pandora's box when we allow everybody knows brother to spend overnight. My only two cents there. >> And I mean, if they are overnight, the worst that can happen is you're ticketed and the ticket is it's not like it's a $10,000 ticket there. I can't see them towing your vote. So
>> 50 I think it was, right? >> Yeah. About $50. So >> Mhm. >> you know, >> Mr. Macaffrey, you have anything you want to say? >> You keep laughing. >> Yeah, because there's there's different um things. I don't want to see anybody hop in a boat and go down to go down to
bay drunk and, you know, hit something. But then again, there's also the responsibility if you're driving a boat there that you shouldn't be drinking. The other thing is if you're going to tie up overnight, you got to worry about the tides and everything else and what kind of damage it's going to do to our
docks or maybe even the other boats that are that are stuck there. >> So, I'm back and forth. I really don't know. >> Well, I we don't usually do this. Uh we usually wait for public comment, but I know we have people in the audience. I don't know if we have people online just
to have another perspective before we decide whether you know how we want to move on with this. Um would anybody in the audience like to speak to this? >> Made it. >> I made it. >> Yeah. I just um >> Would you mind sting your name and
address? >> Margaret Deiani, 112 West Avenue. Um, so I just feel that opening up to overnight it will create issues. You know, there there will be people that come and just want to put their boat in there for 24 hours because they can and it's a very
congested area down there with the public slips. There's only so many available and we do a lot of juggling of boats all day long for transient voters from pollies and al along with the watching what goes on over there and it's a difficult place to park anyways
the way that the pilings are with backing in and the low water the tide comes up like you know but the tide also goes down people end up on the ground if they put try to put a big boat in on the two the ones that are too far in it can create a lot of problems and then I just think it'd be too much congestion and
then you'll have people that are keep coming in trying to find a spot and there's the same boat there for 24 hours and they're not happy about it because there are people that will come over to take spots early on a busy day knowing that those get filled up quickly. So then they'll
just tend to just leave them there. And as far as people drinking and driving the boat, I mean you're not supposed to be drinking when you're the driver of the boat to start with. So they know when they come that they're if you're a responsible boater that you're not supposed to be drinking and driving. It's the same as a car. So, it's kind of
the same thing. And if you do end up having to leave it, it's not hard to call the police or a $50 ticket is not a big deal in my eyes. But that's my suggestion. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Anybody else in the audience wish to speak to this?
>> No. Anybody on Zoom wish to speak to this? >> If you're on Zoom wish to be heard, you can raise an electronic hand so I can unmute you. Seeing none. >> Okay, seeing none. Um, well, wasn't public comment, so we won't have to
close the floor. But, um, I don't know. I I think right now, if I heard everybody correctly, we're okay with what is there. And with the proviso that if necessary, if there's some kind of mechanical issue or whatever, you can
call the police department and let them know. And then by the next day you're out. Is that acceptable to everybody? Sounds good to me. >> Okay. All right. And now we move on to public comment. So again, same rules.
Three minutes. Please identify yourself. Is there anybody? We always start with the room because you made the effort to get out here tonight. Anybody in the room want to have anything at all? Doesn't have to be about anything. You've already Okay. Anybody on uh Zoom? I don't see any hands up at the moment.
>> Okay, then we'll close the floor to public comment and we will go to final remarks by council. And actually, Mrs. Bal Miller, that's you, our lead off. You did the flag salute. You just didn't know it. >> I missed the flag. I already saluted tonight. >> Um, thank you everybody for coming and
having such good conversations. It's always good to hear the public. Uh, just wanted to tell everybody that the Beach Haven School is putting on their performance of Shrek this weekend at the Surflight Theater and the Showtime is
Saturday at 6 and Sunday at 1. >> Isn't it tomorrow, too? >> It's tomorrow. >> No. >> Yeah, Friday. >> No, it's on Friday. >> Yeah. Is it Friday at 6? >> I thought it's Saturday at 6. >> Uh, I know because Jane texted me today. >> And Saturday at 1, I thought
>> I think it's Friday 6. Saturday at 1. Yeah. Go ahead. Keep talking. Yeah. Mr. McCaffrey, you want to go next? >> Yeah. I want to wish everybody a happy Groundhog Day. I hope he sees his his shadow so we can get rid of some of his. >> Other than that, just it's we're
supposed to have a real bad storm this weekend. So, >> everybody be very careful. Stay indoors. >> Okay. Sorry. It's Friday at 6 and Saturday at 1. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Mr. Snider. >> Uh, yeah. I just Mhm.
>> Show up at the surflight for the Beach Haven School. It's just the greatest school ever and the kids do a great job. Concerned about the flooding. It's like the trifecta full moon, frozen storm drains, you know, uh 50 mph
winds. So, good luck to everybody. Be safe. Yeah. Careful. >> Thank you, Mrs. >> Thank you for coming. Uh, thanks to my neighbors and concerned citizens working together to achieve our replacement platform. Thanks to council and burough
management and public works. Thanks for those in the audience coming this week. It does make a difference. So, don't be afraid to show up ever and have a safe weekend and try not to go anywhere too far on this bad weather.
>> Yes. So, everything's already been said. I did want to also thank um uh um our supervisor of public works, Steve Les, and his entire crew, our emergency management team, Chief Marcosi, Adam Ellander, and the gang because they were on for quite a while.
>> Yeah. And thank you for saying that. >> It was it was not an easy weekend and keep your fingers crossed that this one isn't too bad either. So, thank you everybody and thanks for coming out. >> Yeah, great job everybody. >> Uh is there a motion to adjurnn? >> I make the motion. >> Second. Do we need a second? But
>> good. Thank you.