Whenever you're ready, we have a quorum. >> Good evening. Welcome to the special community development block grant program. It is 5:30 Monday, January 12th. Please join us in the pledge of allegiance by led by Mrs. Anderson.
I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Pursuant to the New Jersey Open Public
Meetings Act, adequate and electronic notice of this meeting has been post been provided by posting on the bulletin board in the Beach Haven Municipal Building on the Burough website and mailing the same to the Beach Haven Times, the Asbury Park Press, and the Press of Atlantic City. Miss Anderson
>> here. >> Mrs. Ball Miller, >> Mr. McCaffrey, Miss Snder >> here, >> Mayor Lambert >> here. >> Okay. The purpose of tonight's meeting is to solicit project ideas from the
residents of Beach Haven and the council um to make application to for the community development block grant. It's a state funded grant that's administered through the county. Um grant funding is available to the Burough Beach Haven on
even years. Um so tonight, the purpose of tonight's meeting is to solicit ideas and um the next meeting in January the 29th, we will make a decision about which application we will um be making. So the
purpose of tonight's meeting is to solicit ideas so we can open the floor whenever you're ready. >> Uh should we start with council or just go up to the public? >> Sure. I know Miss Sanderson has something she would like to bring up. Um well yeah down on Chadzsworth Avenue and
Bilvar the little seating areas that were platforms enclosed platforms with bench seating they were removed recently in the last couple of months and we were hoping to replace both that were one at least on chat. I know my neighbors are really
>> looking forward to having it replaced. I was wondering you mentioned application. Do we have to formally do an application? So those applica that application is submitted by um Owen Little and Associates on our behalf to the county.
>> And again the um applications must be retrofitting existing facilities for ADA compliance. >> So was I think I mean maybe still ADA compliant. I can't tell you that.
>> Um and it could have been retrofitted to be further ADA comp. speak. Could you speak into the microphone? Laura, I'm sorry I can't I'm having a hard time hearing. Could you just speak in the microphone? >> So, really know what 20 years ago when it was built if it was probably was
>> Well, the facility is the street end. So, we retrofitted the the the bulkhead area there to be when it was originally proposed, it was to make the street end viewing area more ADA
accessible. one of those. >> Yeah, the one that was there, if we were going to recreate exactly what was there, the ADA codes have changed. So, the ramp would definitely be a different size at this point. The ramp would be
longer. We don't know how much bigger, but I'm pretty sure that the the structure that was there before. We couldn't rebuild it the same today under current code. >> Okay. Well, okay. Do we want to discuss
>> here and on Zoom? >> We'll go to the next council member. >> No, no. I was just going to say, do you want to get into what was proposed or you want to hold off on that? >> Yes. Do you want to talk about other potential projects? We had heard one from public works.
>> No, no. I I meant Yeah, we will I meant for the um street end at Chadzsworth. >> We have the >> No, no. I was just going to say a potential design was discussed today. >> Yes. Yeah. Yeah, >> feel free. >> I can talk about it if you want. We
>> Yeah, I understand. I mean, I know how it is. You have a street. I mean, I'm very loyal to my street and I I don't want things to change and I understand that. And I I um Yeah, I know. It's Sometimes it's just >> Can you hear? I'm sorry that um you know
that you're that you're not happy with the um doing away with it, but I want to make sure that we can put back seating at least so that um I understand that you like to sort of sit down there as neighbors and chitchat and had it was a
nice little seating area which I understand. So, I was talking to Lori and I was saying it would I think we could put four benches, two benches. um this if you want to come up and take a look at this like I was thinking we
could put a bench just say this is the street end you know and if you have a if there's a bench here and a bench here and then we have planters that the burrow owns that we could put behind
each one on each behind each side. This is a more accurate depiction because they wouldn't be you know they're the ones we have. >> I don't think so. But maybe you know you know and then >> well this will be four benches. They're pretty long. They're longer than you
think. So, I thought it might be nice and then you'd have at least you'll be facing each other when you're chatting or a meeting, you know, and um possibly I mean the new the new bulkhead is is nice the way they did it and it will be
>> I mean we were told that a wheelchair when you pull up there has a almost a better vantage point of view of the bay. So, I hope that that's true. These would be the benches. You see? >> Yeah. to this. >> Well, that way. And then I thought the
planners if we kind of >> if we had them kind of meet up and but then you guys would have if you want the planners I would Lori and I were saying it would be nice if people in Chadzsworth planted them and water you'd have to water them because the burrow doesn't maintain them. But we have them
if you want them. And um >> it might be a nice little project. I don't know. Yeah. at least have that conversation down there. You know, it's not people who are just visiting. >> Don't forget you have folks on that cannot hear. >> Well, I'm talking into the microphone,
but you are. Yes. So, you're not. But so, and we're not raising the bulkhead. >> We don't have We don't have to raise. >> It's getting a different um It's what's what kind of top that he call >> The question was, are they raising Are we raising the bulkhead? And >> no, but it's getting a new top on it
that would not splinter. So, if you chose to sit on it, you could. >> But um >> and also um Steve Latz, our head of public works, stressed that >> the bench configuration is optional, right? >> And we can make them we can move them
apart, put them together. So easily a wheelchair could get through possibly too. >> So the design is still true. Yeah. >> Yeah. It gives it a little more warm cozy. I don't know. >> It looks like there's more seating, >> right? >> And the bike rack. you have now is more
seating. What was then? What was that? >> Well, this is a different street and and um but I mean certainly the benches can go anywhere >> north to south. But if if you wanted a little sitting area, you know, sometimes it's it's nice to face your neighbors and some I don't know depends like when
you're in the car with your kids, it's better that you're not looking at each other. They give you more information, but when you want, you know, so >> I think that's fair. >> So just an idea. >> Where's the neighbors think >> and Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you. I don't know if they can see it.
>> No, we can talk about it again for the people who are on Zoom. Um I don't know how much of that you got, but instead of rebuilding, as Sher was saying, you know, the ADA compliance laws have changed a lot and the ramp and the whole
configuration would probably have to be enlarged by quite a bit. Whereas, um, I know Lori, I guess Kitty and Steve Les were talking about how to make that a viewing area without getting into overbuilding down there, which you
probably have to do. So, basically, um, there would be a what do you call Tyveck top to the bulkhead, so it wouldn't splinter if people want to go if you want to sit on it. Um, there would be a bench configuration which is movable to allow wheelchair access right up to the
bulkhead. And I think they talked about putting an asphalt pad down at the very end to make it smooth and easy to walk on. And um putting back a a bike rack and if you would like or if it works out some um vegetation, you know, some flora
to dress it up a little bit, but the burrow would not be maintaining that. So um that would be your decision as people who use that street end. and we felt this might be a good compromise to making something that everybody could use and enjoy and wouldn't take up half
the street or more with the new codes. So, that's where we are with this one. Now, I see there is a hand up, so somebody probably >> would like to ask about it. >> State your name and address for the record. Okay.
>> Thank you very much. Dennis and Diane Steedman, 225 Chadzsworth Avenue, Beach Haven. >> Go ahead. Uh yeah, just a a clarification uh and and I think an important point to
the important characteristic to the the small structure that was there in the past and that is it was elevated slightly and that a foot or 15 in maybe at the most made made a real difference
in terms of someone who is uh wheelchair bound seeing over the bulkhead and and really en enjoying that area more. I mean, the the other uh benefit of that small elevation was little kids in the
morning crabbing and and reaching over and and the the bulkhead is, you know, is a bit high for for a child. Now, there were railings around it. It was a you know nice nice little space and with the elevation so slight uh I know there
was a comment about you know this the slope might have to be elongated the the length of the ramp ramp might have to be elongated to uh accommodate current standards be hard to picture how it could be much more gradual than it already was and I I don't know those
standards so I'll I'll I'll uh not not go too far on that but it just a small elevation and that made a real difference for children, for someone uh you know, elderly trying to see over the bulkhead, get comfortable. When you're
sitting down on a bench, the the bulkhead's pretty high uh relative to your uh you know, eyes point of view. Uh so, and and I know these applications are for, you know, things to be uh
improved or or reconstructed. Uh and and I think uh maybe Miss Mason mentioned that this is an improvement to the end of the street. Is that right? So the fact that the the existing structure was taken down, that
doesn't disqualify it because we're there's no longer something there to improve, quote unquote. Is is that the case? >> You're correct. >> Okay, good. Good. Well, that that that's helpful. Uh but I think the the only point missing from this conversation
which I appreciate and and appreciate everyone's time is the fact that that the elevation made a difference in just creating a space and providing greater access and visibility uh to those who were kind of targeting
here. So uh that that's not to be missed. >> Thank you. I think u we can discuss that with Mr. Latz. see if he has um a way to accommodate. I honestly don't know. >> Just jumped in the conversation today.
But um >> you're we take your point. >> There was none here. >> I would say that I don't know. I'm not an engineer and I'm not um with the Department of Public Works, but I don't think that that past um
ramp was ADA compliant. and this would be a whole different ballgame and it wouldn't look the way it looked before. I don't know what it would look like and I'm simply saying I don't just for the record I don't you know you're not going to get that exact one back no matter what.
>> Can we have Frank Little look at it? >> I think Can we hear from the rest of council about this proposed project? >> Um yeah I have no problem with it if we can make all the accommodations. I would suggest if you're here, go look at the new handicapped accessible ramp at the
library. Um, it's probably not quite twice the size could be of the old one to make it compliant by today's standards. So, as Kitty just said, you're not even close to looking at what was there most likely for ADA compliance. It would be pretty big and
take up a lot more of the street than previously. And I think if we if we could consider um I mean I don't know I I really I I'd like to get some advice from someone who's very familiar with um certainly
you know handicap accessibility and and wheelchair accessibility to see if in fact you know just to make sure that certainly someone can see into the bay whether they see you I don't know I think this new bulkhead I don't know maybe Mike you might know more about
this is wider so that like for crabbing and things and leaning over. I think it's actually safer. So, >> you know, that's >> what I'm pretty sure the plans that they have is they're going to increase the
ashalt at that end to cover some of the tiebacks for the uh bulkhead. So, that will raise it up a couple inches right there. And um it yeah like you said if you go down to where um
>> was it um >> angle side >> it's it's not that the bulkhead is not that high because the ashalt ramps up to it. So you actually will be raised I'm not exactly sure but probably at least 4 in.
If you look at the street end of Engleside, it looks like the seat level of the bench is level to the top. >> It does. I mean, you know, the perspective could be deceiving. >> Feet up on it. >> Mhm.
>> You can certainly, you know, um a wheelchair could certainly wheel up to the to the bulkhead. We could certainly discuss it with Steve and with um our bur engineer if need be. Lori,
>> so they're not saying no to seating. >> Maybe we could have the engineer look at it, but I did want to ask I did hear talk of maybe residents would want to pitch in a little bit and if that were the case, the burrow ought to know about
it if you wanted to replace it with something similar that was there. I don't know if uh >> again just keeping in mind that it requires an engineer and you know planning it's a lot of money and and certainly it would have to be ADA
compliant which would be a much different structure. That's >> the whole little walkway could maybe be reconfigured the way instead of coming out it could go at an angle one way and then make a little turn. I don't know but we're not talking a lot of elevation a whole lot.
Let's talk to our public works uh supervisor and necessary burough engineer and see exactly what the restrictions are, what their recommendations are because as you said it could get expensive if we try to re-engineer the whole thing in a very different way.
>> Maybe it's a simple fix and we're not even aware of it. >> Exactly. Um is there anybody else in the council that would like to speak about this project? >> Is there anybody in the audience? >> Thank you for your input. I really appreciate it. >> No, that's why we're here. Um, is there anybody else in the audience who has
anything they would like to say about this project? >> Certainly. >> Yeah, we understand. Thank you for coming. Uh, Mr. Steedman. >> Yes. Uh, am I unmuted? Oh, thank you. Yeah, I just wanted to make two points
to that uh most recent conversation. Uh uh a no, no one is saying that they're expecting the exact same, you know, uh thing built. That that's that's not what the neighborhood is is asking. We we
wanted, you know, some something to take take the place of that. We understand it. We're not in love with whatever was there in the past. Uh, number two, uh, I'm I'm not naive to ADA standards, having designed some office buildings and things. I I would be shocked if what
was there was not ADA compliant. That was said a dozen times. The ramp was at least 5 ft wide and it very very gradual. Like I said, you're talking 12 to 15 in elevation, which I think is quite a bit less than the the new
library ramp as as an example. So, I I don't think it would be substantially different. Not that the neighborhood's asking for it to be identical at all. And and then I guess third, >> I I'm in no position, I don't think anyone is, to say if the neighborhood be
willing to pitch in. Uh I I personally may be a little bit, but I we don't have some organization uh put together here that, you know, can speak uh for for others. So, uh, that's that that's an idea that, uh, we could certainly take
to, uh, to the neighborhood, uh, if if it makes the difference in in potentially actuating such a plan, but, uh, we're not in a, you know, in a position to really make any commitments tonight on that.
>> Yeah, understood. We haven't come up with any kind of real plan yet, so it would be very difficult for you to make any kind of thing at this point. Um, so I guess I don't know, Lori, do you want to be the point person if we get one more? >> Sure. >> People are, you know, Steve and Frank
and everybody weighs in on what we could and couldn't do. >> Okay. >> We have another hand up. >> Yes. Uh, we have >> Susan Murphy, you have to muted, >> but we can't hear you. Do you have your
microphone on? down. >> Yes, there you are. State your name and address for the record. >> Uh Sean, Susan Murphy, Kathy Murphy, 316 Chhatzsworth Avenue. >> And thank for listening to us. We're
very happy that you guys reached out. The only thing I'd like to say on here is it's not that we're looking for a seat for us to sit at the end of the road. A lot of us on Chadzsworth is an oldtime neighborhood where we're in our 60s, 70s, and 80s. So, it was a way for
us to get up to the height, as Mr. Steedman was saying, where we can see the water and the sunset go into the water. That's the whole beautiful thing of a sunset going in. Two, I've taught so many kids how to fish and crab there.
There's no way for someone, even for me, to stand on the Macadam, even if it was four inches or six inches higher, and reach over and crab and fish. The ramp gave you that ability, and it gave an activity for the town. That's why so many people were at the end of Chadzsworth. It was a spot where people
would come from out of town. We had several uh senior citizens that would come there on their bikes and just sit there. It was a way for them to have access to the bay. There's really no access in the whole town for older people to go to the bay and enjoy it.
And we're just not looking for benches. I think that's something that was uh uh you know the last resort, but as far as I'm concerned and we have spoke to several uh members of the community on Chadzsworth and unfortunately they
weren't Zoom Zoom capable. when you're asking an 80 and 70 year old person, some of them uh to do this, but we had quite a few people there that were trying to say this is something for the town, for the community, and for and not just
Chadzsworth to have an activity on the bay. That's one of our highlights of Beach Haven. So, that's all I had to add. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> Anybody else on Zoom uh care to speak about this particular project?
No. Okay. Seeing none, we'll move on. Um, our public works director today brought to our attention that the area along Veterans Park, um, the sidewalk is in need of repair, especially where the handicapped parking places are. So, he
would like to see part of the money go toward repairing the sidewalk and making the handicapped uh, parking places more accessible to the park. And that one was kind of a bigger ticket. Um,
so we have to figure out. Go ahead. You want to weigh in? >> There is an apron on um by the bathrooms. Maybe the handicap parking could be moved down to those aprons. >> I think it was still like right where the curb was too. And then some of the curb was in in disrepair was my
impression from what Yeah. from what I rode by and I was looking at it today, but um Okay, >> so right where the electric vehicle charging stations are, there's handicap parking there >> and they from the parking space onto the
sidewalk there, there's a couple inch lip. Um and that's part of the project to smooth all that out. So access from those parking spaces onto the sidewalk will be a smooth transition. Mhm. >> Okay.
>> Any other ideas from anybody? >> We get this every other year, so it's like speak up. We've got >> No, I mean, we've been really good with making all of the curbs accessible
on the boulevard, so they're all complete. I can't think of anything myself throughout town. So, if that's what Steve, our public works supervisor, is recommending, someone did take a really nasty spill uh two years ago there. Um,
so if that's what he's recommending, he knows the town better than all of us. So, I want to take his recommendation. I'm not exactly sure that this type of funding would um be eligible for something at the street end because that
area is already accessible. So, you would have to kind of take a look to see if that type of this type of grant would be You don't have to wave your hand at me. >> Um I don't I don't think that it is, but I'm not the expert on it. I'd have to
ask Frank or Allison if this type of grant um would be used for because this is that's more of a beautifification project. >> It was built with grant money originally. It was built with community block grant money. It did not cost the burrow of dime. So it' be kind of
rehabbing replacing what was already approved. It was built with community block grant money. Just so you know. >> Yes. I didn't know that. Well, do you know when was it built? >> Had been early 2000s. All right.
So, it's just putting back what was there that people used and loved and it was all ages. It was people in their 80s and >> Oh, I'm not disagreeing with you. I think it I think you know people have a community on on a street and that's what brings people together. So, I'm I'm not
disagreeing with you. I just want to make sure that it was appropriate for that type of uh project. But, no, I I understand. I mean, on my street end, too, it's where people there's always a part of a street is where people gather. I I understand that. I just want to make
sure that this type of grant was was used for that. >> Record, it was built with community block grant money. >> So, anybody else? >> The one thing um I know has come up over and over again all summer was the Moby
Mats, and we had planned on getting more each year. Um, again, our public works supervisor brought up the fact that there had been many complaints about we have hard pack underneath them and apparently when the rain it eroded them and people were
having issues walking on them. So, he would like to try this summer to take the hard pack out or else just put a lot more sand over it so the mats sit directly on the sand and see if that works. Um, so we are actually talking
about holding off on more movie mats, keeping what we have for this summer and seeing if we can make an adjustment so people are not turning their ankles or having issues getting over their dunes. I know we kind of promised them last year, but at the end of the day, I think everybody's safety is first.
>> What's the total amount >> for the grant? Yeah, about 40,000. Okay. >> Do you ever use money split somewhere on different projects? >> We've done that, right? Split the money. >> Yeah. >> No. All right. Good luck finding a
project under 40,000. That would be wonderful, right? >> And that's the problem. >> Everything's so expensive. >> Oh my god. Okay. Is there anything else that anybody would like to say as far as the community? Yes. One up. Just you just have to come up here. State your name, address
>> for the record. >> Joan Orlando. >> I'm sorry. >> Joanne Orlandi, 912 South Bay Beach Haven. Um, what is going on with the playground on Nelson? Is that like a Dund I've been asking for sales over there? You know,
>> would you mind speaking more directly into the microphone? We're not picking that up. Thank you. >> Okay. I was asking at the uh playground on Nelson. >> You know, I know there were plans to have it redone. Is it being redone? If not, >> so there's a resolution on the agenda tonight authorizing us to advertise for
bids. >> So, our engineer is putting together the specs and we're going to be preparing to go out to bid for a vendor that will do the work. So, yeah. >> And they will have sales like over the playground, >> just a little >> Yes. You know.
>> Yeah. >> Yes. >> Okay. Good. That's really important. >> Yeah. I know. We're really anxious to get it started, but because it's a grant, it's >> a process. >> It is. Everything's a process when it comes to that kind of situation. >> Thank you. Anybody else like to speak
about the community development block grant? >> We can just close the floor. >> All right. We're going to close the floor to public comment. And um >> I guess we have a little >> we'll move right into the regular meeting. Okay. >> Um I do not have a finance report
tonight. I did not get one um from Sherry. So, we'll move right on to minutes. I have minutes from the December 30th, 2025 agenda meeting and the December 30th, 2025 executive session for approval without formal reading. >> Anybody have anything to say about this?
>> I make a motion to approve the minutes. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Any opposed? Motion approved. Ordinance 20261C, an ordinance amending chapter 163,
sewers and sewer utility in the burough code of the Burough Beach Haven, County of Ocean, state of New Jersey. And the purpose is to prohibit sewer system cleanouts in sidewalks or driveways. And this is pertaining to uh new construction or substantial renovations.
Thank you. First reading. As it is the first reading, there is no public comment. Um, anybody on the council like to comment on this one? >> Makes sense. >> Yeah, I just Who knew they ever did that? That's terrible. That sounds dreadful. >> I just wanted to make
>> I do. Do I know, but I have a fit of somebody. >> You know, we could see where the Silver Sun site is being developed. The sewer cleanout line was lined up right along the sidewalk line. And we just red flags
fly. We got to get something on the books before this goes any further. >> Great. Thank you. Um, if >> I had a motion on the floor. >> Oh, I'm sorry. Is there a second? >> Second. >> You're my first. >> Second. >> I can't count. >> Thank you, Miss Anderson.
>> Yes. >> Mrs. Ball Miller? >> Yes. >> Mr. McCaffrey? >> Yes. >> Miss Snder? >> Yes. Mayor Lambert? >> Yes. All matters listed under item consent agenda are considered to be routine by the municipal council and will be enacted by one motion in the form
listed. Any items requiring expenditure supported by a certification of availability of funds and any item requiring discussion will be removed from the consent agenda and discussed separately. All consent agenda items will be reflected in full in the minutes. Resolution 34 authorizing
application to the Department of Community Affairs for recreation grant funding for Pearl Street restroom replacement project project. Resolution 35 is providing beach badges to volunteer first responders. 37. Appointing Trinity Code Inspections
as acting building subcode official and authorizing an agreement with Trinity Code Inspections to provide building subcode official services pursuant to NJAC 523-4.4A6 39 approving change order 1 dated
January 8th, 2026 for the 2025 installation of handicap ramp at the Beach Haven Public Library. 40 is authorizing the Burough Beach Haven to advertise for bids for various capital projects. 41 approving change order one
final dated January 8th, 2026 for the 2024 drainage improvement project, Angleide Avenue, Third Street, and Fifth Street. And finally, number 42, opposing the ongoing increases to the gas tax and other fees imposed by the state of New
Jersey negatively affecting Ocean County residents. Okay. Is there anything anybody would like to have pulled for discussion? >> I will just say that the bathrooms at Pearl Street are
really awful. So, thank you. I'm really We really need it. And I don't know how those tennis people have used them all these times. >> Well, it's not just the tennis. It's, you know, there's so much usage there. >> Yeah, I know. I know. I know. Yeah, they I mean just in general whoever is there for open >> putting air conditioning stuff.
>> Yeah, they're not good. Yeah. >> Will it be a new trailer or an actual structure? >> I don't know. >> Um they're proposing a prefab concrete structure. >> Always um anything I have
>> anybody else like to discuss anything? >> No. >> If not, is there a motion to approve the resolution agenda items? I'll make a motion to approve. >> I'll second. >> Miss Anderson, >> yes. >> Mrs. Ball Miller, >> yes. >> Mr. McCaffrey, >> yes. >> Miss Snder, >> yes. >> Mayor Lambert,
>> yes. >> I have a bill list this evening in the amount of $381,958.56. >> Everybody have a chance to read the bills? >> Is there a motion to approve? >> I make a motion to approve the bills. >> Second. >> Miss Anderson?
>> Yes. >> Mrs. Ball Miller? >> Yes. >> Mr. Mr. McCaffrey, >> yes. >> Miss Snyder, >> yes. >> Mayor Lambert, >> yes. >> That's all I have. >> Okay. So, we are at the public comment portion of the meeting. If you would like to come up, please hold your comments to three minutes and be sure to identify yourself. Is there anybody in
the audience who would like to come up tonight? No. Is there anybody on Zoom? >> I don't see anyone on Zoom. >> Okay. Seeing none, we'll close the floor to public comment and go to final remarks by council. And I believe Mrs.
Anderson, you get the honors first. >> I get the honors first. Thank you all for coming and those who attended on Zoom. Um, appreciate your support of the bench rebuild. Not bench, but the street end. Um, I wanted to just bring up this is,
you know, as you know, 2026 is our country's 250th anniversary and, um, we started, we we're kicking around some ideas. What could we do? I was wondering if we could maybe put the flags back up on the street ends on
the beaches for the summer 2026. They look great when you go on the beach and the American flags are flying. >> Um I think we deserve to have those for our bsentennial year at least. I know the beach badges will have a flag on it too.
>> They will have a commemorative 250th design. Yes. >> Oh, great. And so I mean are we taking suggestions from people what else we could do? Anything special for our parade or >> We are always open for suggestions. >> Okay, good. And uh I learned from Sher
today that uh Bay Avenue rebuild project is underway like our street end on well Berkeley and here at Engleside it's in preparation for the new street lights. They want to get all the infrastructure work done prior to Bay Avenue getting repaved.
Hopefully by this summer, >> right? >> I don't believe. >> Sounds optimistic, but >> I don't know. >> I got it from the horses. >> Yeah. >> I'm just the middleman. >> Well, she's trying. That's good. >> Thank you.
>> Thank you, Mrs. Buller. >> Yeah. I just want to remind everyone that Bay Avenue is not our road. So that that patchwork and township is not township's problem. It's not our problem. That's the county's problem and it's just it's a it's a disaster. I
mean, just don't even get me started, but um I don't believe that the county is coming anytime soon, but fingers crossed. Thank you everybody for coming tonight. It's it's pretty cold out and it's always good to see uh everybody and and this is a community block grant, so it is nice to know that what the
community wants and if that's what you want, then you know, I don't have any problems with that. I just want to look into it and make sure see what the cost would be. um you know see if the grant actually would cover that now since it's been you know almost 20 years and whatnot. So let me do a little research
on it. Let me see the prices and whatnot and see you know if we can use some of this this grant for that you know as well. I mean you're I don't see a problem if the community is coming out and you came out actually to express what you want then who who am I to say
no that's so um just we have another meeting coming up this nothing has been nothing's decided tonight this is just again to hear everybody's public comment of what they would like the grant for not just our you know public works supervisor um so
it thank you for coming out and let me do a little background research and see you know what I can do for Yeah. >> Thank you, Mr. McCaffrey. >> Yeah. Like to thank everybody for coming out. Um if you look at those uh where they're putting in the things for street
lights, for the traffic lights, they're going to have bumpouts. >> Oh, yeah. >> So, you have to be careful going around those corners. >> And we had no choice on that either. >> Right. No, that's >> that that's again a bumpout is when the sidewalk comes out just like how they have
>> sort of like what they have right out here >> that >> ADA compliant, >> right? I was fully against um bumpouts. You might like them or not like them, but again that has that they have to happen in order for the size of the light the lights now to actually be able
to sit there. It has to go out somewhat. So again, that's the county engineer and our engineer that came together that said, "Sorry, you have no choice. That has we have to have that." >> Some people think it's safer. I don't. But >> I don't. But >> nobody likes We don't have a choice.
>> We don't have a choice. >> Yes, we're told. >> And I would also like to apologize for being here a little late. It was my mistake. >> Yeah, you did. >> You're okay. It's okay. >> Thanks. Okay, >> Mrs. Snyder. >> Uh Jo, thanks for coming. Um, I
completely agree with what Jamie just said and appreciate everyone coming out and let letting us know how they feel and um, thanks for caring. So, thanks for coming and stay warm. >> Thank you again to repeat reiterate all over. Thank you for coming. That that's
what tonight is about. We are soliciting ideas and it's important that we hear from you if you have something that you would like. we hear from our burough people what they would like to see and then the ideas to see what we can come up with and how we can make the money work the best. Um I also want to offer
condolences to the uh Hollesbeck family, Bill Hollesenbeck, the mayor of Ship Bottom, lost his wife last week and um I know they're a very close community. I didn't know her personally, but it's always a loss. So we'll offer that to Mayor Hollesenbeck and his family. And
that's all I have. So, is there a motion to adjourn? >> I make the motion. >> All right. Thank you. Meeting adjourned. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Nine minutes. Byebye. >> Sure. >> Jamie.