like had double overtime to come. Good. Good evening. It is Thursday, September 25th, 2025 at Burough Beach Haven. This is an agenda council meeting and would
you please join us as we say the pledge of allegiance led by Mr. McCaffrey to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible
with liberty and justice for all. Pursuant to the New Jersey Open Public Meetings Act, adequate and electronic notice of this meeting has been provided by posting on the bulletin board in the Beach Haven Municipal Building on the Burough website and mailing to the Beach Haven Times, the Asbury Park Press, and
the Press of Atlantic City. Miss Anderson here. Mrs. Biller here. Mr. McCaffrey here. Miss Snder. She is on here. Sorry. Thank you, Mayor Lambert.
Sorry. Okay. We do have a presentation this evening from Friends of Beach Haven. Did you want to come forward and introduce yourself? Yes. Good evening. My name is Ken Rubin. It's nice to be here again. We're here about 3, four weeks ago. Um, I assume all of
you got the letter we had sent in August describing why I'm here tonight. Um, and why I'm here is to really bring you up to date on two new proposals that we'd like you to approve if it's something you really want to do. Um, and
that is the formation of a heritage walking tour in Beach Haven. So, the New Jersey Shore has long been a place for families to go for a week or for a month to go on vacation. And in particular, Beach Haven has been a primary since
just after the Civil War. And that got us thinking, we would like to bring that history to life. and we'd like to bring it to life by building in effect a heritage walking tour throughout the town of significant historical sites in
the town. And what I sent you on August 14th or so was a list of some of the sites that we think might be appropriate. Um, obviously that list isn't final, may not even be the actual list because we're going to put together a committee of people around the town to
help us choose the sites, help us write the signs, and help us determine which pictures will go on the signs. But to give you more of a taste, we had a possible manufacturer put together a virtual sign, which is something that that really gives you an idea of what
the signs might look like. And the final sign may look nothing like this. I just put this together really quickly. So, we did it for the Engleside Hotel. And I think you all may have one in your packets tonight. Or maybe you don't. Oh, no. Sorry. I distributed electronically, but
didn't not to worry. So, basically what the signs are, uh, and we're thinking there'll be about 20 or 25 of them, but they'll be a description of historical sites within Beach Haven. And as I said in the letter, one might be the
Engleside Hotel, one might be where the Baldwin was, one might be where the uh old boardwalk originally started, one could be where the the 1912 or 1914 shark attack was or the old garage. um will ultimately determine the sites, but
they'll look something like this where there'll be some verbies describing the sites and then some pictures we hope and then I think we also have a a a picture of what the the overall sign will look like. But you see the sign has a QR code. And
what our plan is is to actually create a website involving and linking all the signs together so that if you go to the sign, you put your phone over it and it'll take you to the website. And if you want more information about the site, we hope to put together videos
about the site so that someone can have more information, maybe link to the the LBI museum. We haven't really determined, but we think we could provide more information. The signs will look something like that. Um,
in effect, there's a base. The signs are made of two different levels of fiberglass. One is the sign and one is below it. When you make the signs, actually, we're going to make two signs. One that's going to go there now, and
one we're simply going to put in storage. These have a useful life of about 10 years. And we got that from New Town Burrow, which is close to where I live. And their historical society did the same thing. And it was a huge savings because if you make two signs now, it's a whole lot cheaper than going
back to them 10 years from now, even assuming they're there. So, you know, they suggested we do two signs uh and that we can then replace them, you know, in about 10 years. You'll also notice under the sign there's a sponsored by. We think we could do the
entire Heritage Trail without one nickel of taxpayer dollars. There are grants available in particular uh one that we're going to apply for for $100,000. We need to raise 25 which we think the friends of Beach Haven can do on its
own. We would then get 75 from the grant and together that should be able to pay for about 20 to 25 signs and perhaps the website also. signs are going to be about $1,500 to $2,000 a sign. Uh the help we need from the council is
simply to help us sign on a grant application and help sponsor it and also help us with the installation of the signs. We're going to get them all done. They're actually going to come with the base. You just need to install them. And obviously, it may come a point where at
some point some of the signs may actually need to go on public land. For example, where the old angle side was is now the park. So, some spot in the park might be where the signs would go. We're also expecting to get some sponsorship from businesses and individuals
throughout the town to help pay for that $25,000. The thought now is there would be a finite period that you would be a sponsor and then we would have new sponsors. Uh so, that's pretty much the plan for the signs. We're, as I said,
we're hopeful to be about 20 to 25 of them. And the committee is going to decide where the signs will go, where's the most appropriate. They're going to help write the signs, and they're going to help determine the pictures. And I'm here tonight to see if you all
think it's a good idea, to see if it's something you want to move forward with, because obviously we can't proceed with the grant. We can't proceed with the design and the science, and we certainly don't want to waste anyone's time if it's not something you all want to do. So, is it something you think you might be interested in? Definitely.
Oh, that's great. I think it's Oh, that's I really like the part where you're going to fund it, too. That's awesome. Yeah, that works out pretty good, right? I think our public works would be more than happy to do the installation. I mean, I I don't see any downside,
truthfully. Oh, that's great. Um, I think that's really the assistance really the assistance we're going to need. Um, we're also hopeful that a member of council is going to serve on our committee. Um, Kitty's volunteered. Um,
you all can discuss among yourselves what's appropriate. Doesn't matter to us. Whichever one. I mean, I'm happy to do it, but if anyone else would like to do it, please, you know, speak up. That'd be great. So, I think it's a great idea. Are you going to speak, Ken, to the other um grant that we're considering applying for?
Okay. Yeah, there's another grant for $5,000 we're going to apply to. And Sher, you have that last picture, the third one. It wouldn't loadly. I'm sorry. Okay, no problem. But it's in the the letter that I had sent all of you. I don't know if you remember, but the
thought was um we want to make we want to really identify the historic district. And it's easily done by putting a historic district sign on top of the existing street signs. It kind of just clips on top. And our thought is to
put them from Fifth Street to Chadzsworth. It's about 30 signs total and they basically just clip right on top of the sign. Also metal. Um but and and you could see a picture in that letter that I sent. The cost of those
signs for all 30 is approximately $5,000. And again, there's a grant for that as well. and we intend to apply for that grant. Pay for those signs. Ah, there you go. Obviously, it's not going to be Oak Hills historic district. It'll be Beach Haven, but it's going to
look something like that. We'll probably change the design a bit, but that's the idea. And again, is that something you think you might be interested in? Yeah, absolutely. So, it's about 30 signs total. And our next step is to design the sign and then
order them and proceed, get the grant approved. We may be coming back here and just asking council to sign on the grant because New Jersey wants council to in effect sign on. But that's really the two projects in addition to the pavilion I told you about previously that we're
really moving forward on. And I'm happy to see all of you really like the idea. Yeah. Thank you so much for doing this. I think it's keeping a hold of your history and your culture really defines a place and I really feel that that's what really differentiates Beach Haven
from all of the other five municipalities on the island is that we have a really strong hold on our culture and it has a lot to do with you friends of Beach Haven and a lot of our local historians that really care about kind of keeping this culture tradition
public keeping it more public so everyone can appreciate it and so thank you for doing this and we hope to add those people to our subcommittee so that together we can find the the right place for those signs have the wording correct and have the pictures correct but great thank you very much we're going to move forward
I would I would just make one comment you say they were going to snap onto the top of the street signs I don't know if snap is the right word well I would use okay I would I would find some way to make sure they get fastened fastened well I can see them.
Yes, I was going to say I don't think they'd make the summer if they're easy enough to take off. So, you're probably right. Just a minor point. No, no, it's a good point. Hopefully, they'll be attached securely. Anyway, thank you all. Thank you. Thank you, Ken. Thank you so much for taking the time.
Jamie, thank you. Thank you all very much for supporting these two projects. Hopefully, okay, we have minutes for approval this evening without formal reading. the August 11th regular meeting, August 28th agenda meeting, August 28th executive
session, and September 8th regular meeting. Anybody have any questions or anything about? No. Is there a motion to approve the minutes from August 11th, August 28th, uh, both sessions and September 8th? I'll make the motion.
I'll second. All in favor? I. Any opposed? Motion approved. Thank you. Ordinance 202521C, an ordinance repealing and replacing chapter 2128.1, placement of small cell equipment and
telecommunications facilities of the burough code of the burough beach haven county of Ocean, state of New Jersey. The governing body finds it in the best interest of the bureau to repeal and replace chapter 212-20 um-28.1 to provide a more efficient process for
review and approval of small cell equipment and facilities while ensuring maximum burough control and influence over the placement and aesthetic design of small cell facilities to minimize the visual impact on the community but maximize the quality of wireless service
available to Burough residents and visitors. first reading. Since it is the first reading, there's no public comment, but u members of the council can certainly weigh in. Jamie, I know this came up actually as a land use board issue and it seems that our policy
was a little outdated and this gives us more flexibility and is actually a very good thing for us to be doing, I think. Yeah. When you when you apply to the land use board, you only can apply with, you know, one site in an application and that's it. So this enables the burrow
with our professionals to look at all different types of sites throughout the burrow and decide which is the best place not only for the actual tower. Well, it's not a tower just a pole just a pole but to
aesthetically fit into into the town. Thank you. Anybody else on council have anything they want to I would think I I you know I've gone around about this and I've spoken to Bruce and we've spoken um to each to I've spoken to Sher about this and um I
I do think that we should see a an actual picture to so the public can see it as well as to what these would actually look like and I think we should know how many I mean basic b upon based upon the language I would say that potentially we
could have two per block kind of a thing, right? They have they So, anyway, just I think it would be better for the public to see what they will look like. So, um because they're not it's not they're not very intrusive. They're going on existing polls to the best of my knowledge.
Most of them actually would be on a newer poll and I know one of the criteria was it had to be next to another poll. There were certain things but they they are very unobtrusive actually. Um yeah. And as far as where they go, that's to be determined. Like right now, the one
in question is up by u the um Butler Park area because during all the big events, apparently we use we lose cell communication pretty easily there. So it kind of depends on where we need the coverage, that kind of thing. It's no predetermined kind, right? It's not that the cell phone
companies, they don't want to come down here and put down a bunch of new poles. They just want to, you know, there's a lack of service in the summertime where large areas of people congregate, which the largest area that they're finding
that there's a need is in and around the Bay Village area. And we know that firsthand because on Fourth of July, we were seeing some of that lag on our own cameras. So that's in around that area is where they picked it. So they're not coming here to, you know, pepper the
town with all these equipment tower. I don't want to say that does worry me a little bit. You know, that's what you know that does worry me a little bit, but I'm Oh, I agree. I I've seen it just that they won't do that,
you know, down the Yeah, I was just going to say the goal is to have them as unobtrusive as possible and give our burough engineer flexibility to direct where they go. there's a priority to try to colllocate them if possible. So, we're not constructing new um poles and they're
required to blend in with the paint scheme and the type of material. So, hopefully they really are not seen at all and this was actually um initiated because of where they wanted to by law put it and it wasn't a good spot. a lot of
protests and that's why it triggered this whole new ordinance which I think is to everybody's benefit and they are prohibited in the historic can you hear me? Yes. Yes. question. Um will what would happen if a
resident requested one saying you know I have you know I do say a radio show a podcast or whatever and I need more my 5G isn't working well enough can I have one can can we split and I I wouldn't want you know people to be able to
just say I want better cell service on my street because you know my 5G is not working well enough that that concerns me. No, I don't I can't foresee a resident putting one in or arranging with a carrier to put it in because the carrier wants to make the most money possible. So, they're not just going to put it in at the request of of users. They're
going to put it in where they can maximize their benefit. Okay. Thank you. Anybody else? No. Okay. Then, is there a motion to approve 2025-21c? I make a motion to approve 2025-21c.
I'll second. Miss Anderson, yes. Mrs. Ball Miller, yes. Mr. McCaffrey, yes. Miss Snder, yes. Mayor L. Yes. You can get more money for poll, but
[Music] that was a debate that we had. Um, federal regulations set a presumptive threshold of $270. I have seen other municipalities have ordinances up to 350 I think was the highest I saw in talking
with some of the carriers. They said, "We don't care what your ordinance says. We're not paying more than 270 anyway." Right. For 80 bucks. We figured it's not worth the fight. Yeah. Okay. Ordinance 2025 22 C. An ordinance amending chapter 212
zoning of the burough code of the burough beach haven county of ocean state of New Jersey reorganizing sections 212 through8 through 212 through17 incorporating provisions related to historic preservation into chapter 212 and defining certain
processes for the business district. First reading again first reading. So it's an introduction no public comment. Excuse me. Um, members of council like to weigh in on this one. So, I think I think it's I think I thank you
for doing this, Jamie and B. You guys have worked really hard on these um upgrades to zoning and it just it really makes it the schedule or the basically the chart that we're now allowed to refer to for example at an HPAC meeting
or just as a resident I think is really so much more user friendly. So I think it's good on for in both ways. Right. So this is something that uh we've been working on for over two years
now with um Sher and Mary Claire and also uh Vid Washburn and Phil Reed part of the zoning department. And two years ago our chapter 212 is very difficult to read and not very user friendly. So what
we did first was is that we redid all of the definitions and we took out a lot of repetitive stuff throughout the zone and we incorporated it into the definition so it would shorten this the chapters the different sections substantially. So
we did that first and that went through almost a year ago. So then we worked for the past year on really kind of um just looking at each individual zone and again cleaning up things that were very outdated. And the only real change that
we did was in the business district. And so our main goal in the master plan is to maintain a really strong active town center. And we really don't want to fracture the business district. We
wanted to keep a a walkable district. So what we are proposing to do is rather than have right now in our zoning ordinance, if a single family residence is allowed in any zone, you can build it on on any lot size as long as you have
the setbacks. and that's not really something that would help the businesses be a walkable district. So rather than a permitted use for single family use, we this proposing that single family use be
a conditional use. So conditional use is fully legal in the you know municipal land use law and when it does it's gives conditions in order to still allow single family residents but you would
have to have the same conditions as in a single family zone. So that's clearly laid out in the schedule. So it's not taking away a single family use. It's saying that it has to have certain conditions that are fully in all of the
other residential zones. So therefore, it's a compromise because we tried to first eliminate single family use four years ago and that was kind of not taking on very well with the businesses. So it still allows but with certain conditions. So I think that this is a
good compromise. Um, one of the concerns, you know, with the with the businesses, well, what if, you know, the business district doesn't last forever? And, you know, we want to try to look at the town and make it last forever as long as we can. So, it's not taking away single family usage totally, but it's
allowing them to maintain as long as certain conditions are are met. Thank you. You understand that? Oh, I do. Yes. I I just know some people were not sure about it. And then um what it also what we also did was we also took everything in the zone and put it
in a nice kind of table schedule form for the zoning department and anyone that wants to come into the zoning department and are in a particular zone they can take a look at this. Of course this will be online but it just kind of streamlines everything puts everything in one place makes everything in the
office a lot easier to do as well. But Jamie, we're not done yet, right? What's left? Well, chapter chapter 212 just goes on and on and on. But I mean, the last time that we actually uh reszoned uh Beach
Haven was in 2000, early 2000. So, and we still have signs Oh, yeah. to do. We haven't gone that far. We still have signs to do. And you know, a lot of, you know, the business district is actually a lot larger in the zoning than it actually should be. A lot
of that has been un has been replaced by single family homes and, you know, other things. So, we have to kind of tighten up the districts eventually, but that's a whole another whole another project. Whole another summer. Maybe next. Yeah. The whole another summer, maybe a couple next summer. But,
uh, yeah, we still have signs to do. We still have a couple other things to do. Thank you. That's a great explanation because I know people have asked and so this still has to go through this is our first reading. This still has to go to um the land use board for master plan
consistency. So our professionals Frank Little our engineer will go through this and he will uh actively go through the master plan and explain to the land use board like he usually does how this you know is supporting the master plan and
then the land use board will weigh in on if this revision does support the master plan and then they will submit their findings and then we can discuss that when we go through the second reading when we will be taking public comment.
Bruce just pointed out that the small cell will also be referred to the Lanny's board for review since it's within chapter 212. Okay. Yeah. Anything in the zoning has to go to the land use board for master plan compliancy.
Thank you. Um I know it has been an awful lot of work and you said we went through this a few years ago. I think the compromise is a good one. It's fair. um looking at other towns in the island who have actually let all single family go into their business district and you
can see the effect it has. So I appreciate your efforts and I think the compromise is fair and I'm ready to move forward with this one. Anybody else? Completely agree. Thank you. Okay. All right. If there are
I'll make a motion. I'll second it. Miss Anderson, yes. Mrs. Ball Miller, yes. Mr. McCaffrey, yes. Miss Snder, yes. Mayor Lambert, yes. We just have one resolution this
evening. Uh, resolution 221 authorizing executive session discuss personnel. Okay. Is there a motion to approve the resolution? I'll make motion. Second. Thank you. All in favor? I.
Any opposed? Motion approved. Oh, sorry. For the public, that executive session will occur at the end of the meeting. It should take about 15 minutes and there may be action afterwards. Thank you. I have a bill this evening in
the amount of $332,22143. Everybody have a chance to read the bills? Is there a motion to approve bills? I make a motion to approve the bills. I'll second. Miss Anderson, yes. Mrs. Ball Miller, yes.
Mr. McAffrey, yes. Miss Snder, yes. Mayor Lambert, yes. Thank you. Under general discussion, we have proposed ordinance 26 C for private dune walkovers. Bruce, did you want to take that?
Sure. I think everyone has received the updated version. We've been going through some edits um for a while now. Um, this version has been sent to council uh for a group of the residents. Um, I have not received feedback from that yet, but we thought it'd be
appropriate just for council to comment on the most recent draft. See if there are any questions or concerns. And this is not for introduction tonight, just for discussion. Okay. No, I I know that you worked hard all summer with the attorney that was representing some of the beachfront
property owners and I know our public works department also needed to be taken into consideration and um if everybody feels this is a good way to go then I'm fine with it. So I just um took some bullet points of the ordinance. It is a lengthy ordinance.
Just to put that on the record that uh renewals for the Dune walkovers will be due by April 1st for $100. Uh any renewals after received after April 1st will be 500. Um and no renewals for the private dune walkovers will be accepted
after July 1st. Uh renewals are only accepted if a private dune walkover was previously permitted. Um, the renewal applications need only include uh photographs and a description. They don't have to include a site plan. Uh, storm debris from
private dune walkovers must be removed within 48 hours after receipt of notice that they should be removed. Fencing can only be split rail, post in rail, or post in rope. No dune fencing is permitted anymore. Um, and they're only permitted from
April 1st to November 1st. And after November 1st, the rollway decking must be removed and the fencing can remain. That's my summary of the Okay. Thank you. Anybody on council down to the beach? Correct.
No, I just want to kind of make note just a note of um public record that when we say private dune walkovers, these aren't totally private. These aren't private doom walkovers. These are private public doom walkovers. where these dune walkovers are not
all residential property. It's in most cases it's only a small amount. The majority of the dunes and majority of the home owner, the oceanfront homes is public property. So these really aren't private dune walkovers. They're private public dune walkovers and where you're
walking over on on public land. Okay. Anybody else? We've worked, you know, we've gone around and around with this and we've I think Can you hear me? I think I have a I don't Okay. Um, you know, we've gone around and around and I we received a
letter um yesterday from I see that you're on Laura Simon and you know opposing this and and I know that I I'm with you, but I feel that this is a compromise for very few homeowners that will be
able to have this and some some um I think some good um rules and you know regulations um that would we will be become really strict about this and really follow up and you know increase
our enforcement of it and hope that we have we got it right this time regarding the compliance and non-compliance and I know it's controversial and I I I understand it from a homeowner's point of view but I think that this is about
as good as we're going to get. Thank you. Not having Anybody else want to weigh on this? We'll save other comments for public comment. Yes. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Um I see you have a hand raised. We're going to have to hold off until we get to the public comment
section. So just give us a couple more minutes. Okay. Um can you hand these out for me? Keep going. All right. Real quick, we're we did meet to discuss the 2025 capital budget. Um we did pretty well. Um, we're down to uh what appears to be a final
list. So, I want to review that and we can make some last minute changes if necessary. Um, in the general capital budget, we have uh our new DOT road reconstruction project for Amber Street. That's 550,000.
And we did receive a grant in the amount of approximately 350,000 towards that. We're putting 50,000 in to continue some resurfacing of roads through Ocean County schedule C. 200,000 to remove and replace storm drains on West Avenue.
200,000 to put toward another big chunk of the Pearl Street bulkhead. Um, we asked for 400,000 to replace a trash truck, 75,000 for a public works four-wheel drive pickup, 25,000 for park improvements,
350,000 for library um exterior renovation improvements, 185,000 for police vehicles, 39,000 for signboard, 30,000 for a beach patrol ATV,
76 36,000 for a fire company rescue packs and 30,000 for some PC replacements and additional time clocks for the burrow with the total for that general capital at 2,210,000 [Music]
even what about what we previously what do you mean the I didn't add that here um just for so it's not confusing those ordinance is this is preparing for an ordinance that
we're going to draft. I mean, overall, we have approved additional bond ordinances, so we know what our full capital spending is, but we're preparing to draft another capital ordinance. Um, and this is the capital budget that we're looking to adopt in the next
ordinance. So, um, a couple of things have come up since we last talked. Um, one of those being that uh we took another look at the quote for the trash truck and um we have a quote in hand for
a trash talk truck at 354,000. So we think that we have a little flexibility there and we do have 64,000 in an old ordinance that we could put toward this purchase. So, um, we spoke with Steve and he'd like to lower the
appropriation for the trash truck from 400,000 to 300,000 because with that and the, uh, 64,000 he has in an old ordinance, he can make the quote price of 354. And then he'd like to allocate put the
80,000 back into the budget for the surf rake. Um, and that's still a savings of 20,000 over what he had originally asked for. And the reason is because he foresees large purchases next year and he doesn't want to continue to kick that can down the road. Next year he's asking
for additional heavy equipment, another trash truck. Um so we want to be mindful of what's coming down the road as well. In addition, uh we received a request from the first aid squad for some assistance with their upgrades to their
radios. Um the quote that they've submitted for the radio upgrades is about 65,000. Um did you have some input on what you'd like to do with that council? Yeah, I was thinking it's fair to help them with that expense. Um
I was thinking maybe 30,000. I know it was 60 and then went up to 65. So I thought if you know maybe we could pitch in half because they certainly do provide very important service. Mhm. I agree. Okay. Um, we also met with
Enterprise Fleet Management about the vehicle purchases and moving out of capital for purchases and looking at some lease options. Um, the original scope that they provided to us was a little bit aggressive. They were looking
to replace 14 vehicles in year one. Um, I don't think our operating budget can take that kind of hit. So, we went back to the drawing board a little bit. Um, and we're scaling back a little bit. Um, so Steve was willing to take his truck
off this list and the other vehicle we talked about was already off the list. Um, but the chief still has some concerns about how this new program is going to operate and doesn't want to miss the opportunity. So he'd prefer that we leave his um appropriation
request in there and if we don't end up spending it then we'll be better off. So um the final amount if you agree to those changes uh those changes let me remind you 300,000 for trash truck
80 for surf rake no public works truck 30,000 for uh first aid squad radio upgrades. We're at a total of 1,960,000. What were the two after the 80,000 first start rate? Because we're not getting
the $400,000 cash drop that was after that the changes. Yeah. Um we took off the public works truck and we added $30,000 for radio contribution to the first aid squad.
Okay. Is the uh the truck that we just took off, is that pending the lease if we can do something with the lease or is it completely off? Um, it is taking it off the capital list to purchase outright and we're going to put it on this enterprise fleet
management contract and it will become a lease of sorts and it will be paid out of the operating budget in small parts. Okay. Thank you. And I wasn't sure it was completely gone if he but I because I thought he still going to get it but we're going to do it under this new project. Gotcha. Thank you. Um and then the uh
water capital is very small this year. We've already previously appropriated substantial funds for the water main replacement project. We're funding them through the I bank. Uh we're looking to obtain about 4 million about four
million to fund our upcoming projects. So, we don't have any request in here for water main replacement project, but we are looking for 250,000 for plant improvements to um install the air raator, get the air raator on the plant running again. So, that's it for
water capital. Sewer capital will include 950,000 for sewer main and lateral replacements on Fairview Avenue, uh the ocean top of Pearl Street and Stratford, and then also the purchase of a lateral jet. Now that we are also in
charge of laterals, um a smaller lateral jet for 30,000 is also on the list. So their capital request is 980,000. Any questions? No, I'm glad to see the rate come back on. I mean, the beaches are bread and
butter and to lose the ability to properly clean them was or go with one and, you know, cannibalize the other one. Okay. So, we're looking to have a draft introduced uh October 14th. That's all I have. I would like to just say for the record
that I'm I'm still very disappointed in um I know that it's tight and we had to cut a lot and I just I'm really disappointed in the downward trend of budgeting money for our parks and um you know we went from 100 to 50 to 25 and
thank you for at least putting 25 in there which we share with you know with uh Department of Public Works. Um, and we do have the the open space tax this year moving forward. And I think that I hear what I'm hearing is let's just use
that money for as anything we can as often as we can. I still I think that budgeting we need a line item moving forward for parks. I don't ever I see the downward trend of it going to nothing to zero which is where a couple of people want it and I I that concerns
me. um you know as I said uh the fund the open space fund um once used um must protect the land and remain open space and must you know whatever the money is spent on must remain open space or open
land. Um I think by keeping more money in the budget we you know we have more to work with whether we spend it or not and not trying to be spend thrifts but just in case we need it. And I think the town has to um the council
has to and the powers that be I think show um support of our open space in our parks. If the more money we don't use from that tax and we fund ourselves for improvements, minimal as they are, we could use for you know more to the
beaches or more to the b you know whatever. I don't know. I just I worry about just thinking that's just a a way to pay for things that we would typically budget for ourselves. Um I think there's a reasonable expectation taxpayers for what they want to use the
funds for. And I I I'm I'm a little bit concerned. So hopefully in the future we'll we'll think about things um in a more itemized fashion and and see how it goes for a year and then maybe next year say well you know we need to budget more. I hope I and I'm I'm optimistic in
that regard. So, you know, my goal is always long range and it's to improve all of our open space, our dunes, our, you know, flood mitigation, uh, parks. And so, I'd like to come up with some goals possibly moving forward so that we know what we're going to need budget
wise. Thank you. Thank you. Anybody else on council have anything they'd like to say? No. Seeing none, and we will open the floor to public comment. Is there anybody in the room who would like to speak? Um, Don, again, please ID
yourself and please hold it to three minutes. Don Kaxis, 165th Street, Beach Haven. Uh, first of all, thank you for your support of the the friends of Beach Haven and their proposals. Uh, I really have one question and Lori, you asked me
this same question about a month ago at the Spicable Courts and that is what is the status on the getting the all-inclusive park done for next summer. Uh, I know we had the $650,000 grant
approved and there was over 500 people that were in support of this was that signed a petition and they're asking me and and Lori asked me. I mean, it's up to you guys. And the question really is, we've followed up multiple times with
our representative at the state looking for our contracts, our agreements, and we haven't seen anything yet. I think they were waiting for some federal appropriation or something, but um we followed up again this week to look for the agreements. But is there any pre-work that we might
be able to do to get it done? For example, I know you had a budget 25% of the funds. I don't want to start anything until we ink our agreements. I don't want to take a chance that we could negate our grant to start before we ink our agreements. Is our wind ready to go?
We're all We're all ready to go. We're just waiting for our agreements to come in. If you No anticipation date at all because again it would be nice especially in cutting back on what Kitty said about the parks. It'd be nice feather in our cap to have that done by next summer. I'm working directly with Allison.
Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Mrs. Mitzki. I know that's not a good thing necessarily, but thank you very much. First of all, I'd like to thank you and I'll I'll thank you for something later on that's name and address for the record.
I'm sorry. Oh, Framalitzki um 1615 South Beach. Thank you. Thank you. Um I know that Mr. Padua I guess is that Yeah. Thank you. I I've seen your name quite a bit and I know you've been working with Mr. Leaken on a number of
of issues. U I know he's been uh involved with some other things. personally had some issues that delayed things a little bit, but I want to thank the board for their patience in um getting this right and making it something that we can all um go forward with, you know, in in a way that we can
all adhere to and um you know is good for the burrow and also obviously for the residents. Um there are a few things and I just I just really received this about a day or so ago the last you know some other um uh another uh few changes
and I see that you know I I saw the bullet points I was trying to write them down as as I went and I know there's just a little bit of confusion on some of the um language I guess uh Mr. Leaken was determining or or reading it one way. I know I've sent a few emails back
and forth and I apologize if that was out of place, but I did receive a few um individual, which is what we do in our town and I wasn't looking for a group email coming back to me or everybody. I was just trying to understand what we're talking about because there's been some
confusion on the language and um I want to thank the people who did get back to me. Um just to clarify a few things and I also talked to u Mr. you know Mr. Frank Little and and his his idea and even Jim the the inspector's idea, everyone was on a different page and it
made me a little bit concerned that um we're not all even from the burrow on the on necessarily the same page as as the inspector and and and even the um burough engineer. And so, um, I'm just hoping that we can take another pause. And I don't mean a total pause, but just
to get the language straight and the language correct and a language clear so that we're all working toward the same thing and we don't have to revisit any of this again. Um, and that's my that's my thought. I'm just asking, can we just keep working because I think we're
really close. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm still waiting for Mr. Lincoln to get back to me. And that I'm not trying to I'm not saying he's avoiding me. Um I know he's just busy. So this and I know there were vacations and various things that have happened and and whatever. And so um just a couple of
quick quick items if I can take that and just to be clear this wasn't introduced. It really I had spoken with the council in executive session at a previous meeting right and then I had done some revisions and sent them to Mr. for Lincoln and now this was just a followup to up and and I don't know how this flows and I don't know how it goes here and I
was just here with a couple of friends having a nice couple of days girls time out and so I just wanted to say that there are just a couple of things and I know you went through a couple of um of of items and I know that there's a a penalty for if you don't have your application in by April 1st and and I
know that we were just talking about the fact that the packets came out late this year and I just wanted to make sure that there's some sort of um provision in there that the packets should be if the packets don't come out until you know I don't know February 20th that April 1st
or whatever is is not necessarily a hard and fast deal that that that's going to be and now all of a sudden we're going to have a penalty and and I think Mr. Leaken was considering maybe you know 3 months after receipt of the application packet. Well, I don't want to put that in there because I'm not I don't plan on
sending an application packet every year. Um that's too much handholding. Um, we can do it for the next couple of years just to get everyone acclimated, but then it's really up to the homeowner to go on the website, download the application or stop in, get the application, fill it out, and bring it
in. It's available all the time. But since things changed, we were on hold because of beach replenishment. We were on hold because of a new ordinance. Everyone was anxious an anxiously waiting. We wanted to send out a packet with all the information. And we will continue to do that until everyone can
get in the groove again. And then it's up to the homeowner to do the permits and pay their taxes and do all those things they need to do. Well, that's a good clarification because, you know, to be honest, I never had a packet. I never had a new permit of speak. I I sent in a $100 check. I actually did it through my
bank and just went in and with a comment of, you know, private dune walkover and I never filled out a form to be honest. And I just sent it in and it was super easy. And now all of a sudden I'm kind of like, oh my gosh, what do I need to do? And we're getting more technical. We're getting more, you know, complete.
All right. Well, that that's that's answers I mean, and I thank you. That answers a lot of questions because we're all like, what do we have to wait for? And is it going to be mailed here or mailed there? And there's a lot of a lot of confusion. The other thing is, I mean, there are a lot of people who are here that that don't that don't live in
town. They're as far as way as Missouri. They're multiple towns away. And and I don't know why we're requiring photos because I mean, and I don't know when the photos need to be taken. If they can be taken like now, that's great. But for people to come back in the middle of winter when they
don't normally come back uh to their homes here, I I don't know. I mean, is that really an interesting requirement? None of the posts are moving. If nothing changed, a photo chang Yeah. So, I wouldn't think it has to be a current photo. The photo has to show the
state of it and what it's going to be and to ensure there's no changes. So, having the photos was a compromise on the burrow where we used to require a survey. So, so we thought that was actually making it easier and I think I thought that was a residence request. No. Well, you know what? It's one of those things where if you had a permit,
like if I put on my deck, I don't send you a a photo every year to make sure that my deck is exactly as it stood when you gave me the permit to build it. We're not rebuilding walkways. We've seen that though. That's I mean, we're not rebuilding the walkways. The the posts are going to maintain. The posts are going to stay.
Everything those at least I understand with the current ordinance, those are going to remain. So the the structure is not changing in any way. So the photo whether I sent it to you 5 years ago or one year ago or it's going to stay the same unless I say to you I'm making a
change to this which we would need maybe I'm guessing a new permit of some sort to say we're now moving this to a different location and here's the location which would probably need a I mean we could we could think about that. In the past when the fences were moved, we did see some changes when it was reinstalled. But you make a good
point. Nothing's maybe we just have some sort of certification of not change or and and I know that you're saying that I'm sorry. Just so just understand that this year because this new the new regulations are
not in effect. Some folks Dune walkovers still have dune fencing. Some folks doing walkovers, their fence did not come all the way to the toe or they've already removed them. So, not everybody's doing walkover is installed
correctly as of right now, the way that it's going to be. So, maybe in the future once everyone goes to split by a split rail and everyone complies all the way down to the toe of the dune, that's true. But as of right now, not everyone
is. do and I I know I only have three minutes and I don't I don't think we have discussed this. I just want to interrupt for a second. I want to remind everyone that you know if everyone with all due respect fan um
you know we do have a three minute which we're obviously willing to extend to you um out of respect but just that there are others that are going to speak to the same matter I'm sure. Absolutely. So I just absolutely and I'm not trying to keep that in mind because
I was just trying to say and I was just trying to say that that I was hoping that there could be some sort of discussion so I can understand better and we can understand better but and and so I'm I I'm yielding to to whoever is next there. There's just a few questions and I I and thank you Bruce for handling
all of these things and kind of going back and forth. If there could be a little bit of a dialogue, I think we could come up with um you know, all of this this Yeah. And you're welcome to email. I mean, if you're represented by the rules of professional conduct, I can't communicate with you directly, but
if you want to email me and copy Mr. Lincoln, we can have a conversation that way if that's more efficient. And and I could be wrong, but one thing that was stated before is that they're public private public public private walkovers. It's my understanding that six of the 22 have cross public land and
the rest have easements. So that actually is their property. I mean just for for clarification. It's not their propert. It's not their property all the way to the end of the dune. That's it's their property to the high water line is they they are deed to the high water line is my understanding. I could
be wrong but that's what I've been told. We I have accurate. I feel like there's been we have like the the maps that we looked at. There's the line from Army Corps D. Yeah. And you can see the line the burrow line and
and that is on where would that be found? I mean it's public knowledge. We searched it out tax. It is. No, it's not the tax map. You're looking at the Army Corps project maps. The It's the Army Corp. You probably have them. You were part of the Army Corps project. Army Corps project.
Army project. That's interesting as cheap because before the June Yeah, it's not. Yeah, it's that's not the and and I guess my other concern is I I just came out and shoveled a whole bunch. That is true. That means that we wouldn't be able to have cops at on the
beach because it would be your property. So, well I I just shoveled a whole bunch of sand off of my walkway, which I just came back from uh uh being away. Um but I I'm cons my concern is if we continue our walkways down to I mean the fencing down
to the toe of the beach. I just saw uh you know some even on a on the public walkways that that fencing is gone. That fencing is gone. And and that is my concern of debris and everything else. And and and I'm a biology person. I I'm an environmentalist. I'm afraid that if
we keep doing that rather than just putting the wooden walkway or something down there, if we continue that that fencing down to that space, we're going to have a lot of stuff in our ocean that we really don't really need in that ocean. But that's another thing for another time. I do want to thank you for
um everything. I I hope that you will, what you said right here, maintain a strong uh business district. I see more and more houses going in down there. And we chose Beach Haven because of the of having the ability to walk to um places um like our little downtown area. And I
just hope that you guys can hold it tight and and keep that for us because it this is a special place because of that. And um and I really would like to to see you just kind of if you're going to hold tight on anything, man, please hold tight on that. So thank you very much.
Thank you. Thank you. On Zoom, Laura Simon. Yes. Thank you. Can you hear me? Great. Yes. Address for the record. Uh 123 Chadzsworth Avenue. Um thank you for letting me speak before you. I sent a
letter to the mayor and all of the council um prior to this meeting which I hope you got a chance to review. But my our position is we do vehemently um support the discontinuation of this
private private walkway system over the dunes. Um, I am a trained wildlife e ecologist from the Yale School of Forestry and I am very sensitive to um the intricacies of what's going on with
our our dunes and our landscape. Um, and as I said to you all the the walkways in our minds are wrong in so many ways that first of all they sent send such a contradictory message. I mean, we're telling children and adults to stay off
the dunes to protect them, but hey, if you have $100, you can put up a private walkway over them. We have, I guess, 22 of them. Um, which makes absolutely no sense to us because there are walkways at the end of every block. So, why do
people who have homes on the beach side of of the ocean side of the um street, why are they entitled to create these private walkways rather than walk a few extra yards to the public walkways? Why
do they have the entitlement to create their private walkways not only over their own property, but over public property that all of us are kept off of? Um, it sends such a contradictory message. Um, and it seems so very
unnecessary, particularly given the fragility of the dunes and the problems we've been having over the past few years. It just seems like I know some of these walkways are have been grandfathered, but I think it's time for
them to end. Um, we don't see why the uh bureau needs to continue them. We understand there are some lawyers involved. all the more reason to just buckle down and say, "Hey, dune protection is our priority." Not giving
some people private access when they absolutely I don't understand and maybe you can explain to me why they would need private access when the public entrance is only a few yards away. Um, we're also starting to see, I put in my
letter, it's, you know, a little more subtle, but no trespassing signs are popping up on the beach for these private walkways. You know, Beach Haven has always been such a friendly, wonderful, you know, welcoming atmosphere and that's changing with
these um sort of Hampton's atmosphere type signs. Um, so and it just at one point we thought, okay, maybe the t the bureau is benefiting financially from these walkways. We were astounded to see
that it's $100 a year and you can have a private walkway. It makes no ecological sense. It's elitist. Um, it's unnecessary. and we encourage you to say no, we're shutting these things down as
soon as the agreements um end and let's, you know, be consistent in our messaging. We are not going to allow private walkways. We are protecting our dunes and we're being, you know, consistent and and devoting our efforts
to that. So, uh we just don't understand this whole system. 22 of them, that's a lot. That's way too many. that has to end in our position and and you have the letter from the five of us. I would love to understand any rationale for keeping
these things um going and grandfathering is not a good enough reason. Thank you. Thank you. Well, personally speaking, I know I've lived here for 66 years and there have been doing walkovers for as
long as I can remember on some properties. I went up and down the aisle. I spoke to every town and every town handles it differently, but every town I believe except Barnett Light does allow them and in my experience, yes, when we get a big storm like a 62 or a
Sandy, we will see it, but it'll take the dune out everywhere. Um, I think the fact that we are not allowing new ones to come in is a is the move in the right direction. You're right. I mean, we do say no playing on the dunes, but when I see kids playing on the dunes, usually they're running and jumping over a large
section and instead of just the walkway. We did talk to the D about this and they felt that having the walkway was less intrusive than anything else that was going on in the dunes because it was a limited path. I do understand what you're saying. I mean, personally,
I don't feel that it's too intrusive on the dunes. That's just my personal feeling. I think that we are limiting them and I think we are making a provision that eventually they will probably disappear, but like I said, every every town on the island, I said
believe light was the only one that didn't have them. So, it's not just Beach Haven that's, you know, enacting this. This is a an age-old thing. Thank you, Brandy Simon. Hi. Can you hear me? Can you hear me?
Yes. Hi. Um, I just want to add something. I totally disagree with add your address to the record, please. Uh, 123 Chadzsworth. Okay, go ahead. Thank you. Okay. I totally disagree with what was just said. If you look at the dunes between our street, Chadzsworth and
Dolphin, you can barely see the dunes with all the walkways. The more you allow, the more people are going to come along. Eventually, every house is going to want to have a walkway, especially as soon as they learn, oh, it's only a hundred bucks a year. I think that's something that is fortunately not known.
Um, also, uh, I think when we were kids, uh, you know, the dunes, people would always put plants on them to save the dunes, and there's a requirement. You're supposed to put some plants on the dunes, but there's no specifics. You could take a couple plants, throw them on the dunes, and technically fulfill
the requirement. There should be consistency. You shouldn't have to see different kind of vegetation in front of every house. Uh it it's it's crazy. Also, um uh I I don't uh I I've observed uh like houses on the dunes sometimes
have parties and then you have a pathway from the beach. I've seen crowds of kids go up the pathways to the backs of the houses. As they're going up and down, beer bottles get thrown on the dunes, etc. It's like opening a pathway to
malfeasants. I think it's ridiculous. if I have to walk to a street entrance. So, just because you have a house on the dunes doesn't entitle you to having to save a few steps and and yet to do all this. And um I know this is a little off topic, but just while I'm on at it, it's bad enough when you don't live on the
dunes that this wall of houses have been built up uh and these big dunes have been put up to protect these new houses. But all this machinery on the beaches, all this plowing around the sand, the dredging, uh it's it's ridiculous. it it's you're completely losing the
character and the charm of the beaches. And getting back to the original point um you know if just because other towns allow something you know sometimes we should set a precedent or be unique not just follow the herd. And lastly when I was a kid the beaches were all fine. The
jetties held everything. Now this dredging is burying the jetties. The sand's going all over the place to the ends of the island. Bottom line you shouldn't mess with mother nature and you should leave mother nature alone. Thank you very much. Thank you. Um, one clarification,
uh, not anybody can just get one. You had to have had one by 2023, I believe the date was. And if you didn't, you're not, we're not giving out new ones. Okay. Just to clarify that point because 100 bucks doesn't matter where you are. And I believe we have what, 80ome oceanfront homes? About 80.
Yeah. And 22 currently have them. And as I said, you know, that number could be going down. So it's not like a wholesale giveaway, but I do understand what you're saying. Thank you. Um, Laura has her hand up again. Oh, okay.
Hold on a second. Hold on. Hold on. Anybody else want to go first then? Okay. Can you state your name and address for the record? Okay. Laura Simon, I just don't understand. What's your address for the record?
123 Chadzsworth. At a basic level, why if there are public walkways on every block, why do people need additional walkways over our ecologically fragile dunes to get to the beach when they can
only need to go a few yards out of their house, their front door to get to the public walkway? Why do we need to compromise the dunes further when they have a walkway on every block? We don't want to get into a back and
forth, but uh Mrs. Mlet as an oceanfront owner, I don't know if you have something you'd like to add to that. I would say then this would be the last. Yeah, this is it. Yes. Right. Sure. Um I Yeah, I would just like to say that it's an NJD uh allowance. Uh, every oceanfront home
is in fact permitted uh, automatically permitted uh, to apply for a beach walkover. Uh, it is in their regulations and you I guess if you're well aware of NJ regulations, you would probably know that. Um, it's built to their specifications and the town of Beach
Haven has al always been adhering to NJD regulations. Um, hey, you know, nobody wants to uh not preserve the dunes. It it affects our houses first before anybody else's houses. And up until a few years ago, I had a 1940s lowslung
house that made it through Sandy without any any damage because I was always um a very uh a major uh advocate of keeping everyone off my dunes. I continue to do that uh even though I've rebuilt my house. And um I have I love this town. I
love my house. I love where I am. And I do protect the dunes. So, um, we're just trying to do our best here. Uh, and I I kind of feel a little bit offended by saying elitist because I have rented my property for a bunch of years so that I could have it for my family. And I plan
on eventually moving here full-time. And, uh, that's who we are and that's who we am or we, you know, what we do. And we continue to plant things on our dunes. Uh, you might not like the fact that it's a variety of things, but variety is better. you know, from a naturalist perspective, you if you
something gets wiped out, you don't want to have every same same species or whatever on every particular uh place because then they all get wiped out. So, you want variety. That's what nature is. So, thank you very much. Thank you. Okay. Um, is there anything
else? Anybody else? Public comment. No. Seeing none, we will close the floor to public comment and we will Is there a motion to adjourn to executive session? You want to do your final remarks first? Yes, that's right. Yeah, I was thinking we're doing those later. Okay. Uh Mr. McCaffrey, it looks like you start us
off. Okay. You've been very quiet tonight. Yeah, you have. Okay. Uh just to let you know, uh Saturday, October 4th from 12:00 noon till 8:00 p.m. The firehouse u the fire department will be doing a fundraiser.
And I'm not sure whether it's going to be at the street or I think it's what they're doing the housing. Is it going to be up in the street? Yeah, on Amber Street. Um, also on Saturday, October 4th is the Merchant Mart at Taylor Avenue. And on Sunday, October
5th, you have the Beach Haven Chav Cook off. And that's also at Taylor Avenue. So, there's going to be some good stuff going on that weekend. Okay. Thank you, Mrs. Anderson. Um I
Laura Simons was passionate with her argument about doing walkovers. Maybe she would be influential as the talk gets around town that maybe some people would volunteer to give up their doom walkover. We don't know. So express your opinion and maybe maybe you
will get volunteers to give it up. It's not impossible. That's all for me. That's it. Okay. Mrs. Miller. Um, I just wanted to to just make a comment about that. You know, the New Jersey D
is a state-run organization and even though a public or private doing walkover is allowed by the D, remember that the D is regulating the entire state and throughout the state on the coastal areas we have very large lots like in love ladies where a private doom
walkover would make sense because they don't have public access. It doesn't make sense in Beach Haven. It 100% doesn't make any sense to have a private dune walkover when the public walkway is within throwing distance. So, I 100%
agree with the Simons. I wanted to to get rid of them alto together. And the way to do that would to not allow private dune walkovers to come over on the public Dune. And that would be very easy to do. Um, unfortunately I don't have the support for that, but I would
100% get rid of the those dune walkovers because where the oceanfront homes are right now, that's supposed to be the secondary dune system. We have we're supposed to have two dune systems and we always thought it best to get rid of the dunes, especially when we build a a
boardwalk. But we allow oceanront homes and now private dune walkovers. Our dunes are fragmented. We had a hurricane this summer and people still left their dune walkovers. They didn't even roll them up. They were all over the place. public works is trying to clean up for everyone to get to the beach the next day. So, you know, some people can do it
right, some people can't. I would like to get rid of them all together, but unfortunately, we are compromising or we're still discussing to compromise. But that's my that's my own uh thought on that. But other than that, I'm looking forward to the fall season and
the shoulder season keeping our and keeping our businesses afloat. We've got a lot of things uh coming up but we have meetings before that too I feel like no for no next weekend is chatterfest and then the following weekend is kitefest
and that that's well then we have the proest okay it I guess so thank you I want to thank the friends of beach haven for coming out tonight in their presentation and all the efforts that they are making to improve the town um capital budget discussion is always
one of my least favorite things to do because everybody needs so much and as you know the town gets older and our infrastructure ages it's tough. It's very tough to make those decisions and some of them can't be put off any longer. Um I want to thank everybody for their input on the dune walkways. Um I
know our attorney has been working diligently. Thank you, Bruce. And um we will continue to hash it out. So thank you very much. We have Kitty. I'm sorry. That's okay. I know it's out of sight, out of mind. I know. And I
apologize to the public for for being remote. I'm I'm visiting my daughter in Austin and I I I thank you for allowing me to to still be with you tonight. Um again, I I just I to just real quick just to follow up on the Dune walkovers,
Fran, when you spoke, I I I I really, you know, I respect what you say really everything you said. At the end though, I have to say some of your examples, for example, that you you had to dig out your walkover and that if you know after
a storm potentially if you don't aren't allowed to remove things, there could be wood in the ocean and debris in the ocean, which really in my mind is an argument against dune walkovers altogether. So, just for the record, um I just think this is a compromise and
I'm willing to live with it, but um it doesn't make me happy. Um just wish everyone a happy fall. Um the lights are going out in two weeks. Hallelujah. And hopefully we'll be storm free and have a wonderful fall. See you in a couple weeks. Thank you for coming tonight. Thank you.
Thank you. All right. At this time, we're going to go into our executive session. Okay. We are reconvening the public session here. It's 7:33 p.m. Um, is there a particular term that I have to use to put this on?
No, just any member of council is is free to make a motion. There's a proposed resolution uh which was discussed in executive session regarding a personnel matter and if someone of council wishes uh it would be an order to uh move a resolution adjusting salary
for employee number CV00005 to a salary of $70,000. I'll make a motion. Second. Moved by Councilwoman Snider, seconded by Mayor Lambert. Thank you. And then I have uh Miss
Anderson. Yes. Mrs. Bill. Mr. McCaffrey? Yes. Miss Snider? Yes. And Mayor Lambert? Yes. And do I have a motion to adjurnn? I'll make the motion. All right. Meeting adjourned. Thank you everyone. Thank you.
Thank you.