and by that time I said to my mother "My feels like mush." And he texts me and goes "My brain is mush." He's in our building he's really good um how are you he was really good too it's just like "Hi." Hello there's one house on my street there's
the ones that came yeah I changed hi how are you i can't think it was It was there and they never I'm sure it is well we we tightened up those
we tightened up all that now not typical yeah that's what mine when I first got on it's kind of annoying definition in there because we didn't have anything yeah we're just fixing a few more things yeah we forgot to take in the even we
talked about accessory buildings and then that's not being f but then we forgot to take it hi Jim can you hear me definition so just when you redo this it's just a process of going back and forth and editing i can hear you Gina
okay thank you hi Gina penny's here dana am I on you are all right I hear you Penny okay good thanks this one got pushed back
yeah I can't sit on it i'm 200 feet i know yep updated agenda everybody here um Eric we'll be right back oh okay
was that six yet anyway 558 yes i forget the password yeah i just gonna say I do not sorry like all right we got to go like oh early
can I can I ask a question sure Jim go ahead cyber security we're supposed to take that every year you have to do it every year it's monotonous you have to sit for 10 hour and a half or two hours okay my I tried
to go on i had a little trouble my last certificate i know so you had Hey Gina turn off the beach haven yeah you mean the volume because I'm trying to talk to Jim and
Hold on let me see what I can do well don't worry about it i mean if it's going to screw things up i got your I I heard you okay yeah you have to take it every year and but you said you had trouble getting on i had
trouble getting on but I'll try again um I downloaded the thing to my computer instead of trying to do it through the uh website forgot to take out a definition of the challenge that should be good
they said they will be more than happy to jump in i know i thought that was great news okay everybody is every is Eric back no if it's you back we don't have a definition for retain i don't think so
and then we wanted to have somebody sign so that's the reason is Frank there yes he's the reason why sorry to support what we want okay here we go uh welcome to the land use board of
March 3rd 2025 we will begin by standing and saluting our flag i pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and
justice for all [Music] pursuant to the New Jersey Open Public Meetings Act adequate notice of this meeting has been provided by posting on the bulletin board in the entrance hall of the Beach Haven Municipal Building
and mailing the same to the Beach Haven Times in the Asbury Park Press this meeting is a judicial proceeding any questions or comments must be limited to issues that are relevant to what the board may legally consider in reaching a decision for each individual application
decorum appropriate to a judicial hearing must be maintained at all times mrs edles here mrs leonard here mr balbo mr tinquist here mr stevens here
mr jenna Mayor Lambert here Mr meadow here Mrs ballmiller here Mr lefredo Mr wanganger here
Mrs parker here and Mr aello here okay um well under announcement tonight we have the application 202501 that we thought we were going to hear but I understand it's going to be carried that's correct Madam Chair we received a
letter from Mr raven's office asking that the application be adjourned to the April 7 meeting the applicant has agreed to wave the action date so pursuant to the agenda and I'm announcing this evening that the application for Renard
block 175 lot 12 application 2025-01 is being carried and will be heard at next month's meeting the applicant will therefore not need to renotice my announcement tonight is proper and appropriate and again the applicant has waved any action date so
we will hear that application assuming everything's in order at next at next month's meeting all right can I have a motion to carry application 202501 so motion top second Penny you can do a
voice all in favor none opposed okay moving right along the next thing we have is the approval of the minutes for February everybody get a chance to read them they were brief
meeting was brief um all in favor of approving the minutes say I i i okay minutes approved moving along to the approval of the bills did you get a long chance to look at the bills
yes can I all right all in favor of approving the bill say I i i opposed okay moving right along to our new business is the ordinance uh is to be
reviewed by us uh 2025-2C and that's basically the definitions that we got into with with the shed and the garage and the density and Frank do you want to go over that
yeah i mean briefly we had to we have two new definitions we had to take out the word floor area ratio sorry that's a we had to take out floor area ratio reference in the accessory structure and we didn't have a definition for a
retaining wall so we added a definition in the ordinance for a retaining wall so we did a review and the uh the updated definitions are not inconsistent with the goals and objectives of the master plan and based on that I'd recommend the board approve passing it on to the uh
council does anybody on the board have any questions about this or Yeah I have one question Frank on the um you use the word lot coverage in there i mean impervious coverage I would agree with totally but is lot should lot coverage
be in there no not for a retaining wall i mean you're talking about the width of the top of the wall counting impervious correct yeah the definition includes lot coverage right now under the the write up of that yeah lot
coverage well I'm just saying it should be impervious i'm I'm pretty sure that's the same thing if I'm not mistaken the intent is the wall is impervious technically impervious you know it doesn't count as building coverage okay doesn't the lot coverage I thought that
was the definition of the building cover i think Mr wanger Frank Mr little was talking about in the um second sentence of retaining wall all retaining walls must be constructed on the same lot as the improvement requiring retaining wall and are counted towards both my word
both lot coverage and improvement okay so they're counting it as both yeah which means it counts toward building coverage all right you want it to do that does it our job is just just real quick
members of the board the governing body the governing body it's their job i just Okay it's their job mr little if you think that's consistent with the master plan yeah I don't think there's an issue with it okay it's not
inconsistent and I think we're good okay so and that that would I do have an understanding of correct that would be the building coverage so if say Yes okay it would be okay that counts in the what 35% coverage
right so and and if they're doing a retaining wall you're talking about the width of the top of the wall for you know the length of the property or wherever they're installing it yeah so you could whatever 100 foot lot or an 80 foot lot you could be talking about 80 yeah you're looking at 100 square foot on a if you have it on one property line
yeah which is that's a lot of space that you're taking from a house yeah yeah it really is well that's what the government body would like to have so and that's what the building they want a bunch of walls all right is that consistent it's your opinion
it's that's consistent with the master plan i'm saying it's not inconsistent with the master plan okay can I just make one comment absolutely um keep in mind that in some of our resolutions especially with subdivisions when we are when we have smaller homes on either
side we have or we've asked to build retaining walls but we had no definition of a retaining wall so if we don't have a definition of a retaining wall you know technically walls could be built that aren't really what we wanted so we had to have a definition because we were
asking people to build retaining walls so there would be flood wouldn't be flooding on their neighbors property yeah no no I completely understand the reason and the purpose i've seen them on many houses i mean honestly my perspective this would make but I know we're not it's not our job but it would
make sense just to say toward impervious coverage and not mention lot coverage but I'm just curious if they could have inadvertently overlooked that yeah those words are in there pretty strong it's not like it's a typo okay
that doesn't mean in the future depending on what happens we can't change it again i'm not saying we should but we something we can always look at but again Mr little it's not inconsistent with correct okay all right can I have a motion
to approve so move Jamie second Penny okay mrs lambert mayor Lambert yes mr meadow yes mrs paul Miller yes
mrs edles yes mrs leonard yes mr stevens yes mr tinquist yes mr wanger
no and Mrs parker uh yes motion carries all right I think that's it for this evening this is meetings are getting
shorter and shorter but wait Madam Chair there's someone in the audience so if we could have a motion oh there is okay got a motion to open to the public so move penny second um
anybody in the audience that would like to come up and say something sir okay close is there is there anyone on someone just joined there's no one raising their hand but I just want to let him in okay let him in please and
let's find out there any public comments on Zoom motion to close public second Bonnie okay so now can I have a motion to close the meeting to adjourn the meeting bonnie wasn't Wasn't there two
things we're supposed to approve we're not the other one about the um the lights yeah m Mr stevens Mr stevens you're correct um there are two new ordinances being introduced the
other one is about licensing and that's an enforcement issue that doesn't have to do with our board it's just that an appeal from a denial of a merkantile license will go to the governing body instead of us but that's not something that we need to review for
consistency as a land use board it was just an FYI okay that's a good observation on your part so but yeah okay now is a is a merchantile license a zoning issue no it's an enforcement
issue okay it's it's a police power for the governing body not the land use okay i'm with you thank you you're welcome am I making another motion to adjurnn
motion to adjurnn second i second second thank you good night everybody good night everybody thanks for coming move abide