I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> All right. Thanks for being here
everybody. Do we have any changes to the agenda? And if we don't, we would entertain a motion to approve the uh revised agenda here. We have a couple revisions under nine um and number or
letter A under that. >> I'll make a motion. >> I'll second. >> Motion by Becky, second by Mike to approve the agenda. Any further discussion? >> Hearing none. All in favor, please state I. I. >> Anyone opposed state no.
>> Agenda is approved. Guests in open forum. Do we have anybody here tonight to speak to the council? All right, we'll move on to number six, committee reports, presentations, and awards. Mr. Kua is going to update us, I
think, on golf committee and speak a little bit about park and wreck as well. >> Good afternoon, Mr. Mayor, members of council. Uh we held the golf committee at Pebble Creek Golf Club on Tuesday, February 24th. Uh we talked about a few
items that'll be uh before you tonight. One on the consent agenda uh regarding asset disposal this time of year. Um it's pretty customary that we take some really old kind of out of repair equipment and take it to auction uh and get what we can for it and then reinvest
that in. So um that's in the consent agenda. We updated the group on the pond lining project that was part of our 2026 capital improvement plan. Um as you drive up uh 23 on Sherburn and you can see if you look into the golf course um that work is underway as far as dredging
out um the pond. So making progress there. Um as well as I'll be back up uh shortly with the clubhouse improvement project for 2026. But it's always a great day when you get to see the the ice and snow melting from the golf course. So hopefully our opening is not
too far away. Um, with that, answer any questions you have. Otherwise, I'll move into brief update on parks and recreation commission. >> Anything for golf? >> Sounds good. All right, please continue. >> Yeah, we did we did not meet this month for parks and recreation commission. Um,
however, one of the main projects we're working on right now is uh the city of Becker acquired parkland, 6 acres on the east side of the Elk River um to serve our community that was under reppresented as far as parkland. Um so we're in the community outreach phase of
that. Um so one of the calls to action of the members of the commission was to uh give feedback on some potential names um which were dead even between two names. So as as it would turn out um more work to do there um as well as approving a survey that'll go out to
community members um to provide feedback on the play experiences of the new park. So um that's the update for for this month. >> Exciting. What were the two names >> uh >> that were dead even? >> East Elk Park and Sand Hill Park and
paying homage to the Sand Hill crane which is obviously very prominent in our community. So >> So the Mike Dorian Park didn't make the >> We're still accepting uh Mike Dar statue,
>> right? And then Mike's going to supervise the park too for eight hours a day. So we appreciate that, Mike. >> All right. Any update on kind of like timeline on that park then? >> Yeah, so we um we're going to be launching the community survey in the
Becker bulletin um that would go out to residents mid-March, but you'll see some QR codes for that survey sooner than that. Um but we do have um funding set aside that'll kind of get that direction from some of the residents as well as
parks and recck commission, city leadership and staff to kind of see what that play experience. But when it's a clean slate like that, it's kind of a fun opportunity to um engage everyone. Um but we do have plans of, you know, getting some turf restoration, some grading done, parking lots, things like
that. Um as well as um moving on whatever these play experiences are. We've got some ideas, but we want to make sure they're aligned with um what the folks on that side are looking for. >> Awesome. Any other questions for Josh? >> All right. Thank you very much. All
right. We'll move on to Joint Powers Fireboard. >> Fireboard, excuse me. We met on February 23rd. Um we uh we took a resolution where we accepted a donation and I did not have it written down who it was, so my apologies. I will bring that next
month. Um the transition with HH HK is going well um with uh with the new services there. Um we we did update our accounts payable uh procedure um which we talked about. We'll actually have a finalized one. We we talked through some
of the edits of that. So I guess that's still in uh still in process there. Um that's all I got. Unless you have anything else you No, I think you did well. Any questions for Rick and Fire? All right. Joint planning. We met last
Tuesday, February 24th. Really two items we looked at. Uh we're looking at a I believe it's an interimm use permit down by kind of Salida Crossing. One of the local garbage companies is going to be establishing a collection point in
the township there. So people instead of throwing your dressers and junk in the ditch could actually go there and properly dispose of it. So we would encourage all area residents to take uh to do that here in the future. Um so we
looked at that and then the township's in the process of redoing their ordinance. So we looked through a lot of uh updates to the ordinance review. Kind of the similar process we went through with the UDO. They're going through that same process. So, Jacob and Austin have
done an awesome job uh representing the city and helping us out with that and we're due to get some more updates and maybe next month we'll be able to act on on that piece. >> It sounds like you approved the the permit.
>> Uh we did not yet because it's currently not a permitted use until we redo the ordinance. Um, but they they're able to do some of the work there, just not accept the garbage and things yet. >> Um, but they purchase some of that
property and they're establishing some of the things they're permitted to do. But, um, collecting the the garbage and the junk they >> No, it's not actually garbage. It's junk. >> Yeah. It's not garbage. They're not going to collect garbage. Sorry.
Yep. Be items similar like there'll be electronics. No household hazardous waste. Um, but electronics. I think they even mentioned they'll probably do tires. >> Um, and >> exc stuff that would normally end up in the
ditch. >> Yep. Any questions about joint planning? >> Okay. And then budget and finance. >> Budget and finance. We met on the 24th of February. Um, one of the we did did
get an update. Uh if you know in the Edgewood um project for this year, we um uh because that's now we are now um state aid uh city. So that was a state aid street and we were potentially um they give you the x amount of dollars
per year and then they also allow you to um say it's basically that zero it's like a 0% loan on the next four years you can you can take for the next next several years that was approved. So, um I know that was uh one of the things we were um looking at uh for funding that.
So, that that did get approved there. Um the state approves that. So, um so that did come through. So, the work on Edgewood uh obviously still continues. Um and let's see, there was one other thing. Oh, we um
yeah, we Oh, we just had a little bit we did a little bit more of a deep dive on the uh um out on Golf and uh cost of goods sold um that we usually do an um you make an adjustment uh um for the for the end of the year where you count your inventory and all that. So, um we had a
little bit of a deep dive on that and that was uh about all I got there. >> Okay, any other questions for Rick on budget and finance? All right, then we'll move forward to number seven, board committee and consultant reports. Mr. Listen is up for
the final design phase S SOA for Edgewood Street. I had to take my time slowly like Phil did. So, I just I didn't want to upset. >> Thanks for keeping it >> do what I can, >> keeping it real. >> There you go. Good evening, mayor and council. Uh, tonight we have an RCA and
resolution uh for your consideration. Resolution 2612. is for the final design phase supple supplemental letter agreement with for the Edgewood Street and trail improvement project. Um we had
been working with um for the proposed improvements to Edgewood Street. Uh back in July of 2025, council did give approval for the preliminary work um that included topographical survey work and soil borings. um that SLA had covered uh that preliminary work uh so
that our engineers could get a better understanding of the corridor uh what Edgewood is um so that they could work within the design parameters um that the MES MSAS standards bring. So this is the first project the city's done as an MSAS street. Uh so that's been a bit of a
learning process. So uh Randy and Bryce doing a good job helping us through that. And now that that preliminary work is complete uh and the initial concept is is put together um and approved by MSAS uh we need to finalize the plans and get the project out for bid. Uh so
this uh SLA agreement would allow for that and since the work is outside of the master agreement with uh this SLA will capture that work. Uh the tentative plan just to keep you guys up to date would be uh to still bring plans and specifications back to council for
consideration on March 17th. Um, they will also be submitted to state aid. So again, once we have the final plans, give them back to the state aid people again, make sure they're still good with everything that we have. And then depending upon their comments, hopefully that doesn't change our timing. We're
shooting for the 17th, but we'll see what they have to say. Um, we'd still, like we said, we still like to get the project out for bid in March and then award the project in April. Um, the timeline, again, like we said, is a little fluid, but that is still what we're working for. Um Phil doesn't want
to lose time and you know to get this out for bid and and get it going. So um more to come uh but we want to give you an idea of what the timing is. Uh this project has been discussed with public works committee and with the full council. Uh so this would be the next step towards uh completing this project.
Uh the cost for the SLA is 104 $104,700 and this was planned uh for funds from the MSA fund and uh we also will keep it separated too in case there's any overages or things where you have to use our street CIP, but the plan is to use
those MSA funds for this. Um that's all I have on that part. And so finally, I'd be looking for a motion and a second to adopt resolution 2612. uh resolution approving a supplemental letter supplemental letter of agreement with SE for final design engineering for
the Edgewood Street and Trail improvements uh project would be appreciated and I do have backup from SC here if if you guys have any questions that are too tough for me to answer so they were kind enough to join us. >> All right, questions for Chris?
>> No, I don't have any. Bryce, >> like you said, we've been talking about this for quite a while. So, >> we have Do we get any confirmation on the 23rd at all, Greg? >> I'll have it tomorrow. Okay. >> Bill will be back tomorrow, but >> Okay.
Um, is that something we can >> Yeah, I did talk to Greg. I just think this is a really public project and I think we need an open house just to let people know what we're doing. So, I asked Greg if if that could be incorporated. Um, so we're we've looked at a date here
a little bit later this month. We're just trying to see if we could do that. But just a 5 to 7:00 p.m. just because people are asking about the trail. They're asking about curving. They're asking about how many crosswalks. We're going to put more lighting up there. And, you know, given the the uh tragedy
there last summer, there's just a lot of public focus on this. So, I know we don't always do an open house, but I think this this is a welltraveled road with a lot of public interest. So, I I think it would be warranted.
>> Yeah. Tenative will be March 23rd. >> Yeah. >> Here, 5 to 7, right? if it worked. >> I make a motion we approve resolution 2612. >> Okay, we have a motion by Mike for resolution 2612. Do we have a second? >> Second.
>> Rick second. Do we have any further discussion? >> Randy drove all this way. Anybody want to ask him anything? >> Randy, tell us about POS. >> Yeah. >> No, >> no, that's Chris. I don't want to talk about PAS
>> thermal stratification. Just kidding. All right. Any further discussion? Hearing none. All in favor, please state I. >> I. >> Anyone opposed, state no. >> That resolution carries. >> Thank you, Chris.
>> Next up, Josh has the Pubble Creek Clubhouse improvements. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Mr. Mayor, and members of council. Um, tonight we have uh as part of our 2026 capital improvement plan for Pebble Creek, uh we
have some clubhouse improvements that uh we've been working through and we're proposing um for your consideration this evening. Um so, we had planned $20,000 in our capital improvement fund for 2026 uh for the upgrade of various uh furnishings and equipment at the
clubhouse. Um they're itemized there. Um, basically the the the purchases would include upgrading our bar stools. So that's 18 bar stools. Um, when we had initially expanded the bar back in 2019 to more of a horseshoe shape, uh, we had
purchased some pretty basic um, economical economically priced uh, bar stools as well as other seating. They're starting to crack a little bit. Um, and as most are aware, the length of stay of a guest at a bar is a little bit higher. So, we wanted to upgrade that seating
experience. Um, so we're proposing uh replacing 18 of those bar stools. We would keep the the ones that are in the best condition because our high top tables throughout our dining room also use those same stools. So, we would just replace uh one that are worn down with
uh with the remnants from this project. Um we're also really focusing on kind of completing the kitchen equipment upgrades that we've been working on over the last few years. Um specifically um a dual oven. So it's an upright dual oven. Uh a two door refrigerated prep table.
Um an upright reach-in freezer and then our infrared food warmers that are kind of at the pass where the food goes from the back of the line um into our food runner's hands um is not functioning. and then some various uh utility carts and shelving. Um these pieces of
equipment are like for like what we're proposing. Um nothing new into our kitchen, but um we've gone through numerous repairs. Um for instance, the the dual oven is original to the kitchen. Um the lower unit doesn't doesn't function. The upright freezer,
um we've gotten quotes and it would be about 65% of the cost of a new one to repair the old one. Um, so we're just looking to um replace just non-functioning and kind of worn out equipment. Um, with those uh
with those kitchen equipments, basically every piece of major equipment in the kitchen would have been replaced in the last 5 years and most of them within the last 3 years. And that is with the with the exception of the the walk-in freezer, the walk-in cooler, and the hood ventilation system. Uh but that
puts us in a really good position uh to continuing our our business there and uh hopeful that we can replace those those items. Um this has been discussed with golf committee and they're supportive of uh bringing it to council for your consideration. Um like I said 20,000 was
budgeted for this clubhouse improvements this year. Um this plan would not exceed that. I think it comes to about 17750. Um so kind of right up to that number, but we would not not plan to exceed that. um be happy to answer any questions that you have. Looking for a motion and
second to allow staff to carry out the 2026 clubhouse improvement project as presented. Happy to answer any questions. >> All right. Anybody have any questions for Josh? >> Nope.
>> All right. Anybody carried to offer a motion on the 2026 clubhouse improvements? >> I'll make that motion. >> I'll second. We have a motion by Mike, second by Becky. Is there any further discussion? Hearing none. All in favor, please state I. I.
>> Anyone opposed, state no. >> Motion carries. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> All right. We're on to administrator and staff reports number eight, letter A. We have a purchase agreement for the industrial park lot. Mr. Sanders.
>> Thank you, Mayor Councel. Before you tonight, we have a uh purchase agreement for the 1.41 41 acre industrial property that the city acquired. I I would say it's probably a month ago at this point till pretty recently. And
uh we do have a buyer for that. The buyer is here tonight as well from DM Equip Max Pribble. They're also connected to CMP attachments which um you may know out of Clear Water. So >> Clear Lake >> or Clear Lake, excuse me. Thank you.
Uh the use would be for light manufacturing, assembly, and sales. So we purchased the lot for $45,000. Again, one of the agreements that we told uh talked to Mr. Husby about when we purchased a lot is we wouldn't sell it for more than that, plus some of the
staff time involved in acquiring it and selling it. So the total purchase price would be $46,500 for the lot. Couple of notes in the draft PA. the uh property contains some storm water. They're aware of the basin
that's in there. Uh Mr. Privile has reviewed the PA as well, so he's taken a look at that and legal has reviewed it, but there is some storm water. So, it just requires that the buyer would execute any agreements deemed necessary um to drainage utilities when it's
necessary by us um and maintenance agreements for that storm water ponding just to make sure that it doesn't impact anything else. And then in the event construction hasn't commenced within a year on a facility, the city would have the ability to repurchase the property.
Um, but that's just to protect the asset in the future. So again, we're looking for a motion in a second to approve resolution 2611, which would approve the sale of the property to DM Equip Incorporated. And with that, I'll stand
for any questions. Should the city should we get to that point where the city would potentially want to repurchase it? Would that be at the same price? >> Yes. Uh I' I think we talk about that in the PA itself. If it doesn't, it should
say that in there, but yes, it would be at the same price. And I want to say it actually does. Hold on one second. Those two I make a motion we approve agreement resolution 2611. >> Okay, we have a motion by Mike. Rick
still had a question out. >> Or we can do discussion, I guess. >> Yeah. Do we have a second? >> Excuse me. Sorry, mayor. Mean to interrupt. >> Uh, so it would be for the same purchase price. Yeah. Okay. I thought >> we have a motion by Mike. >> A second.
>> We have a second by Rick. Do we have a timeline? >> I don't know what the construction timeline just getting it in. But I don't know if you want to. >> Yeah. Well, basically is uh >> Can you just you want to come up here just so we have you on? >> Yeah. >> So we can hear you. >> Welcome to Becker, by the way.
>> Thank you. I uh I'm excited to uh join you guys. >> So basically, we're looking to start construction almost as soon as the ink dries. We're uh once this purchase agreement goes through, we're going to go forth and get some bids um for some different kind of buildings, whether it's post frame or steel frame. Um and
then we're hopefully going to be moving into a building, you know, sometime in June or July. You know, that's kind of our timeline. We're we want to move fast and we want to start contributing fast. So, >> Wow. >> Nice. >> Well, that's awesome. Do you want to tell us a little bit about your company? >> Yeah, so we're uh kind of a light
manufacturer and an equipment dealer for Underground Utilities. Um, so what we do is, uh, basically we make and then we outfit contractors with equipment that installs, you know, telecommunications, gas pipeline, power line, um, all underground basically. Um, so whether
it's wear parts, blades that actually install fiber and duct, and then, uh, we do set up, uh, dozers with cable plows that go out on jobs and, uh, install utilities across the country, basically. So great. >> Nice. >> Well, welcome to the industrial park. We're happy to have you.
>> Yeah, happy to be here. >> Thank you. >> Awesome. >> Any further discussion or questions? >> Nope. >> Hearing none. All in favor, please state I. >> I. >> I. >> Anyone opposed? State no. >> Motion carries. Welcome. Thank you.
>> Thank you. Thank you, Jacob. That was pretty efficient. We just owned it for a month and we got a got a roof going up. So, that is awesome. Be nice if all of our property went like that, >> right? >> That's our new rule. We got a month once
we got something. Got it. >> All right. No pressure, buddy. All right. Moving on to the consent agenda. Mr. Larude, Mayor Cobinger, city council members. Items for approval, review or adoption on tonight's consent agenda include the revised hiring and
termination report, payment of the bills. The minutes of the February 17th regular council meeting, the 2026 score funding grant agreement with Sherburn County, and disposal of Pebble Creek Golf Course surplus equipment. And I'll
be happy to answer any questions. I I do have one question just on the score grant. I don't know Chris if you know this. I know people need to get new cards and has there been any more talk? I know last year we that was kind of a deficit to grind everything. Did we ever
come up with any further information? >> Chris, you have to come up. >> Um, yeah. So, cards, they were reset January 1st. So, if you have your existing card, you can bring it into city hall in Big Lake, Becker, or Zimmerman. They'll reestablish the card
at no charge. Uh, we did change. So now each household can have two cards. Um so the second card is $10. Um in the past you were only supposed to have one card, although we found when we reset the system that that wasn't always adhered
to. So um so that that is in process as far as the grinding goes. So the county changed uh I think they heard all three cities kind of concern about the rising cost of grinding and that kind of thing. So they put out an request for per quote
for the grinding. They are handling the grinding. So they took bids on that. Uh they have a contract with Tooffs Outdoor Supply out of now then. Uh so they he was hoping to get in and grind our site here but road restrictions went on so
we'll have to wait a few weeks now. But um so they will uh invoice the county directly for those grinding costs. All material is hauled to Vonco. That is the uh site for that waste material to be deposited per that score agreement. Um and so the cities aren't involved in
that piece of it anymore. So what we do now is quarterly we'll submit our costs related to um like our internet connection out there, electrical costs, staff time, those kind of things. And we're still responsible for security of the site, maintenance of the site, but
the county has kind of taken over the grinding piece of it. So, uh, which I am very excited about cuz that was kind of the hard part for the different communities and we used different people and then there was different rates and some were getting more, some were getting less. At this point now, it's kind of they they're committed to at
least one grinding a year and then if things, you know, depending upon how the season goes and how much you have, if there's existing funds or other, you know, they have score funding left, we can ask for another grinding or that kind of thing. Um, the other thing that we battle with sometimes is when people bring debris like stumps, excuse me,
logs that are too big that the grinder can't take. What do we do with those? In the past, we've often hauled them out there if we have enough score money left, it would cover those costs. Sometimes we didn't after the grinding. Um, that is also supposed to be included with the contractor that does the
grinding. So, if we have some stumps that were left there that weren't supposed to be, we can contact that, uh, contractor and they can we'll come get them and dispose of them. So, uh, I feel like the county really did listen to some of our concerns and made some nice
changes. So, that was good good to hear. So, >> Yep. >> All right. And maybe just a quick note that um, the that's why the, uh, grant went from 55 or whatever it was to 15 because we no longer have to pay for that. Uh, correct. Came out of budget and finance as well. Mention that. Yep. Sure.
>> The the the stumps >> last year we had stumps that you made people come back and pick back up again. >> Correct. >> Um is it all stumps are not allowed or is it a certain size? >> Nope. No stumps. No rip balls of any kind. So even small rip balls from
bushes and things. The problem is that they can contain dirt and or rocks and so that's very hard on the grinder. So the grinders will just throw them off to the side anyway. Then it's a pile they have to take away. So, uh, the county again, it's still on us to try to maintain that. We have cameras out
there. We do monitor that some. Trying to catch everybody that might dump something is a horribly time-conuming event. So, but we do monitor the site. We will check it usually, you know, Mondays, Thursdays, a couple times a week. It's not necessarily those days, but I just threw them out there. Um, so,
uh, to to kind of see what's out there. If we do find piles that have things in there that are not supposed to be there, we will go back on the camera and look at them. We do work with uh PD to make contact in times. Often times if the person's willing to come back and get it, it's kind of where it ends. Take your stuff back. It's not supposed to be
here. Sometimes we can't catch them. Um trailers now are getting fancier and fancier and most of them have covers and things. So it's hard to see, you know, did it come in on this trailer? I can't tell. I can't see where it dumped, but there it is in the pile now. So, um so yes, we do the best we can to catch it,
but some of that disposal still has to happen. So, >> how far back can you go on when you're viewing? >> Uh, I think we're a couple of weeks, I believe. >> Okay. >> I'll have to tell Rob to change that now, too, so people don't think about. >> That's right. We're always watching,
right, Chris? We're always >> Maybe it's not a couple of weeks. >> Everyone takes shifts, >> right? Well, we have the new stump detector out there, too. That's right. Right. So, there's that technology. So, from the 2000 to the 5,000 models, >> there's radar as you drive across, it can just scan your whole vehicle.
>> Great. where 10 hats will get going now. >> We're kidding. Before we get phone calls, >> we're kidding. Just kidding. >> Kidding. >> Kind of. All right. Any other questions on the consent agenda? >> I don't think we had a motion. Did we, Shannon? Did I have a motion on that?
All right. I lost track. Sorry about that. Anybody care to make the motion to approve the consent agenda? >> I make a motion we approve the consent agenda as presented. >> I'll second. >> We have a motion by Mike, second by Becky to approve the consent agenda. Any further discussion hearing? None. All in favor, please state I. >> I.
>> Anyone opposed, state no. Consent agenda is carried. Anniversary announcements. March anniversaries fulltime. We have won seven years for our deputy clerk,
Susan Nachi. Congratulations. >> Hey, girl. >> Feel like we should clap or something. I don't know. I know you're all right. There we go. She likes the >> antilimactic. Yeah. Right. >> All right. Part time. Mark Loot, our
building inspector, 3 years. Rebecca Rebecca Andre, Becker Community Center, 12 years. Tracy Otto at the community center, 12 years. Bonnie Colinger, it's not my wife, at Pebble Creek for 5 years. So, congratulations to all those
employees. Uh council has in front of you um just a copy of the uh official complaint letter that was sent to the postal regulatory commission. Uh as I talked to someone in
DC last week, they assured me that our post office was not closed because it wasn't listed on their dashboard. And I assured them it was closed because the building does not exist. So, we thought maybe an official uh complaint letter
was was in store. So, that was sent on Monday. And um just a thank you to Senator Smith and Congressman Emmer. They've both sent letters here in the past couple weeks and they're definitely working on it. So
now they will have 45 days to answer our official complaint and if it's not rectified uh then it will open a public docket where we can all start complaining kind of like it's a docket process kind of like the Minnesota PUC
uses. So, we'll see. At least there might be a little more teeth in that questions on the post office. >> No question, but a comment. You did a good job on the news. >> Oh, well, thanks, Mike.
Yeah, thank you to Sherman State Bank, Ruck. Uh, we tried to get some businesses there. Um, it's really amazing how much mail is being returned. The bank has had their PO box since I believe 1980. It's been PO Box 428 since
then. And there's properly addressed mail to Sherburn State Bank at PO Box 428 with the correct zip code and it's getting returned as undeliverable. So, there's definitely something in the in the machinery. It's not our local people. We want to say that. We
appreciate our local delivery folks there. It's I've talked to them. it's not coming to them and they're not stamping undeliverable. So that's happening back somewhere in the operations software or whatever. So um the postal service said it was
isolated incidents. If you saw the big tub of return mail the bank has that's not very isolated. >> It's isolated to Becker. >> Yeah. Correct. 55308. So all right. Anybody have
anything further to come before councel? If not, I would entertain a motion to adjurnn. >> I move we adjourn. >> A second. >> We have a motion by Mike, second by Rick. All in favor of adjourning, please state I. >> I.
>> Anyone opposed? Motion or the uh motion to adjurnn is approved at 5:33. We are adjourned and we'll take a couple minutes here and then we will move into our executive session. Is there any way you can get a copy?
>> Absolutely. >> I want a digital copy. >> Are you recycling? >> There you go, sir. >> We're going to talk about the 10 to 25 intersection. Hey Jo. >> Got a thumb drive. Go ahead and stick
her in there. We'll >> see. Is there a reason that one is not administrative? >> You take a little navigating here to get the right. >> Let's see here.
>> Okay, let's go up to Becker and city council presentation. >> This one here. Uh, no. The actual folder >> that the one this one here will be where's the slideshow button on this?
There it is. Right down here. >> There we go. All right. So, there's a shows to have. >> Okie dokie. Thank you. >> And did I retain that first spot on the agenda? Is that >> you were thinking that Sounds great.
>> All right. Thank you. >> It's either end of July, early August. >> That's it. >> Kaylor was his last name. >> And then you said open house. Wednesday house for the 10 and 25 project
March 11 >> from 5 to 7. >> Now that you think about it, that's really weird. You never get >> Yeah. Oh, I hear you. >> That's funny. >> It just took seven years. Right.
>> Ask and you shall receive. >> That is so funny. Yeah, I guess I never even thought about that. Okay, you guys have one. >> You guys are kind of important though. >> I'm going to give you mine. >> Mine. >> Thank you.
>> That's right. I got the good stuff, don't I? Somebody does. Oh, look at that. That's the regular. If there's the good ones that they're Robin has them, >> I gave Robin all the orange ones. Yeah. >> Oh, and the cat's away. >> There is a note in mine that says,
"Richard, stay away from my meds." >> I don't sit on EDA anymore. That's where I sat on EDA. So, >> see, here it is. >> Really? >> Stop eating my meds, Richard. >> Richard. Well, now, um, are you on EDA? >> Yes. So that's your spot.
>> It is. >> Yeah. See? >> Oh, hell. Now I'm going to be have to change my >> I see you. >> You ready to roll? >> All right. It is 5:37. We will call the city council executive session of March
3rd to order. And our first agenda item is the highway 10 and 25 intersection with Mr. Larude Mayor Clinger city council members the planning uh project of at the highway 1025 intersection has been underway for
a couple of months. Uh TKDA and SC TKDA is the lead engineering firm and is in a supporting role to lead the planning effort. Uh we do have a open house uh that's scheduled for next Wednesday I believe and I invited Joe
Weaver. is a project manager for TKDA here uh to come tonight to just give you an update on where things are in the process. And with that, I'll turn it over. >> All right. Welcome. >> Thank you. Thank you, Greg. Mr. Mayor, and council members. Uh again, my name is Joe Weaver with TKDA. I am the
project manager of this planning phase of the project. Uh our overall goal is to uh start to define exactly what the needs are out there in that area um to um achieve some of the uh benefits that we're looking for for a grade separation
at this location. Folks may be familiar that this is something that's been studied previously by both Becker and Sherburn County. Um but there's a um a need to refresh, if you will, um some of the data that's coming in that we're using. Um but it is our hope that we can
utilize this to um show some momentum to get future funding for the actual construction of the project. So um as a means of an introduction here um I'll just go briefly through the project location and some things. Um
this is what I plan on I've only got probably a dozen slides or so but just wanted to go over the actual overview of the project goal itself in addition to the location. uh talk a little bit about how the schedule will map itself out as well as uh some of the specific issues we have out there and what those
opportunities are for correcting those with a grade separation. Um as many of you know the project location is uh where US 10 crosses 25. Obviously US 10 is not the only thoroughare going in that east west or
diagonal direction if you will. Uh also the the BNSF has rail tracks there that uh get used on a daily basis. Um the need for a grade separation um would address several things. Safety being the primary. Um there's also recognition
that development in this area is something that is very fluid, but we want to stay open and uh provide the opportunity for infrastructure that development can use as they uh they come in and u want to want to do so. Um we
have a couple of other specific issues out there. Um you can see that the goals include that safety that I just mentioned. Um but it enhance the mobility and system reliability for the local traffic freight and emergency services. Emergency services are
important because if there is a train crossing and emergency vehicles need to get from side A to side B, obviously they're still at the mercy of the train crossing. So, uh, to address that with a grade separation makes good sense there. Um, US10 has, um, varying degrees of,
uh, usership, if you will. Um, there's a lot of traffic, um, vacationing traffic, if you will, on Fridays and mon or f Fridays and Sundays usually. Um so again to grade separate the north south
traffic from that US10 traffic and uh the rail traffic is really the the goal here. Um I mentioned supporting uh future economic growth. Um but also to inv minimize environmental and property impacts. Um environmental impacts are
occur when vehicles are waiting for a train to go by and all that exhaust just sits there and piles up. To be more efficient and allow traffic to to move more freely will have uh better environmental impacts as well. Um the construction of the project is
yet unfunded. uh we recognize that but we also know the process is such that when u momentum is gathered by having a project that the preliminary phases have gone through not only the the public engagement that Greg mentioned um
earlier that's going to start next week um to get public buy in to find out what the the uh residents needs are and how how we can meet those with the project. Um it also u has environmental aspects to it whereby uh we have to uh basically
go through the process to look at many different alternatives uh and then have criteria that are set that we actually use to evaluate those those different uh alternatives. So um again any any of that that we can get done up front is
going to position ourselves better to get the the future funding to actually construct this project. Um, so again, our schedule doesn't have hard dates at this time because we're still um discerning some of the information going into it. Um, the funding situation, just
as uh a side note, does actually affect the timeline even right now because if there's federal dollars versus state dollars, uh there's different um different stops along the way, if you will, for the process. So, again, we're working to define that right now. We've
already talked about um really covering both bases. uh uh working under the assumption of whether it's federal or state funding that we'll build that into the overall schedule. So, we're just getting started right now. Um in fact, the meeting that's next Wednesday um is
really just to introduce the project to the the public and start to solicit and get their input coming back to us so we can um make sure that they're heard. if there's any specific issues that we haven't yet captured, making sure we're incorporating that into our design
alternatives. So, got too many things here. Um, issues, I touched on these before. Safety, not only the high traffic volumes, uh, but the atr crossing itself, like I say, is problematic. Anytime you have vehicles crossing in
the path of a train, uh, you can imagine even with gate arms that come down, um, it's something we'd like to avoid if we could. Um and it's currently an unsalized intersection. So again, to allow those movements to occur simultaneously without having impact on one another is really the goal here. Um
travel delay that could be uh talk about that for quite some time. But um obviously the instance that I mentioned earlier while traffic in the north south direction, excuse me, is waiting for a train. Obviously we've got delay there. Um but the overall um intersection
changing to an interchange would uh provide benefits for both the US10 traffic um safety benefits for um the the US 10 as well as the crossing traffic as well. Emergency response. I kind of jumped
ahead. I already talked about that a little bit, but obviously you can uh recognize that if a emergency vehicle has to wait for a train, that becomes very problematic. Um economic development, again, I mentioned that's kind of a fluid situation, but I think uh it's in
everybody's goal to um have a project that recognizes uh that future development is going to occur. what what exactly that looks like. We might not know at this point in time, but we know that the infrastructure upgrades are going to be able to serve that and make it a more attractive uh place for people
to settle into. Multimmodal connectivity is another aspect of this. Uh when we say that, we're talking about pedestrians and bikes. Um but right now, I think you have to go east to Liberty to get some kind of pedestrian crossing and that's an Acri crossing. So obviously um it
would be a lot more inviting for a trail system to be able to cross over US 10 and the railroad tracks and uh try to fight that. Uh there's also an opportunity with any of these improvements that we're going to be looking at. And um I'm looking on the screen, but there isn't anything yet because that's part of the process, too. When we come to that very first meeting,
the environmental process requires that we don't have any lines on paper yet. We're we're soliciting the input of the um the public and then we're going to utilize that to help create those alternatives. Um so um but those alternatives will create some
opportunity like like I say for that m multimodal traffic pedestrians andor bikes to be able to cross uh the highspeed roadway and rail line. We started by talking about the public open house. It's the very first open house for this particular project. Um
the date and time on that is next Wednesday the 11th at 5 to 7:00 here at uh um Becker City Hall. there is an alternate date in case something would pop up that the uh Thursday is going to be the the uh the alternate date on
that. Um there have been invitations that are sent out. Um in addition to the presenters from the design team, uh we would also invite any council members that would like to come to uh to please do so just to get a feel for the project. Um that same invitation has
been extended out to mindot as well as Sherburn County, Andy Whitters folks over there and the township. So um again as we have multiple open houses uh and are able to kind of share the progress we have on the project um again it it
may become uh a lot more fun to look at pictures and stuff like that, but it's an important first step that we we come in with a blank slate. >> Quick question, Joe, were land owners in that area invited as well? Um, I think so.
>> So, I I think we identified seven that were directly around. They get they get direct notice, but then I believe a mailing went out to everybody within 1,000 ft. >> Uh, I think it's much more than that. I think more than,000 ft. >> It was well over I believe 500. >> Yeah, there's a selected group.
>> So, the Norm Johnson farm was >> Yes. >> Okay. Yes. >> Did it go to residence too? >> Yes. >> Okay. You didn't get one? >> I'll ask my wife. Oh, >> I think they went out a week ago.
Post >> get it next week. Postmail is >> und deliverable. >> That open house is here is right. Is that open house right here? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Any other questions? >> Anybody have any other questions? I
didn't realize you were done. Sorry. I thought I was interrupting there. Maybe just uh you know you'll you'll hear this next week too I'm sure but I know the um when we've we looked at this in 2017 2018 which will probably the past documents you probably will see um the
uh we mentioned the Norm Johnson farm and they've been there many many you know many many decades um and they were concerned about um you know they own land on both sides of the road now so I think they maybe were leasing it once upon time now they actually own on both
sides of 25 north of the just the first property north here. >> Okay. >> And um so I know there was concern there about them being able to um you know if they have a big combine they got to they're not aren't going to buy two combines and leave one on each side of the street. I they got to be able to cross the street. So yeah um I know that
that will come up uh next week. They will be uh for sure one of the people there. So um that is uh >> um definitely something uh you know every they're very involved in the community. Um, you know, they've been here longer than me, longer than probably just about everybody in the
room, almost everybody in the room. >> Um, but, uh, so, um, definitely, you know, some, you know, people want to, you know, respect as much as possible there. So, >> yeah. Well, we welcome that kind of input and it's those specific things
that we couldn't capture unless we have those folks in attendance and sharing that information with us. But with a grade separation as our goal, we do have an opportunities um to look at alternate ways for um farm vehicles to cross rather than crossing lanes and traffic.
Now, that's about all we can say right now because obviously there's cost involved with those solutions. But again, to to have it all out in front of folks so we can take a look at what the costs, the benefits, um and the setbacks to all the different solutions are come to a conclusion is is is the process
we're looking at. Sure. And you kind of covered this on one slide, but either Joe or Greg, does this will it also have any impact upon Edgewood or First Street, does it go that far to look at those things? >> Yeah, part of our goal, and this does go
back to some of the alternatives that were looked at previously, both Sherburn County and the city of Becker, um, you know, started this process. There were, I think in the most recent of those studies, actual alternatives that were shown. Um, and I think folks even weighed in. Oh, Mindot likes this one
and the railroad likes this one. Um, we are not going to just take that and throw that in the ash can and get rid of it. Um, but we do have to, like I say, refresh, if you will, add the new traffic volumes, those types of things. If there's any ownership, uh, and user uh, differences, we have to recognize
that as well. So, um, I'm sorry, did I answer your question? >> Yep. >> Okay. Yeah, if I recall that uh Edgewood regardless of unless you moved the bridge somehow if the bridge stayed roughly where the same footprint is right now, Edgewood would come out on the offramp. So that would absolutely
not work. So right um that would in effect almost everything we looked at I think sealed off edgewood whether you connected it with first street or just teed it off or whatever. >> Yeah. So that became probably the the more of the wild card I guess that was and that depending on which um one
generally >> kicked off a lot of discussion. So >> yeah and I I think I got close but I didn't get quite to that point when I was talking about the previous uh alternatives that were laid out. Uh those do have connections for the local system getting into uh US10 as well as
uh the north south uh roadway as well. >> Sure. >> So yeah that's that's going to be part of it. Yeah. And just for the public, too, because I had this question last week. Why would we be redoing Edgewood right now? Well, we need to redo Edgewood. We don't have a funding timeline on this.
So, it could be 10 years out yet, >> right? >> Um, so it's not like we can hold up that whole project based on this. So, we're still moving forward. >> All right. Any other questions for Joe? >> All right. Well, thank you very much. We
appreciate it. and we'll hopefully get a good turnout next Wednesday. >> Yeah. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> Appreciate it. >> All right. >> Moving on, >> we have the administrative find fine
amendments discussion for Jacob. It's sure to be a popular item. >> Now, the item you've all been waiting for. Not really. I know. I know. But it's an important one. So, um,
we wanted to bring this to you tonight. We've been working on this for some time. It's had some back and forth on it, but in the packet you're provided the draft red lines, uh, for the administrative enforcement process. So, um,
a lot of this was modeled off St. Francis's because BGS, our attorney, has had a lot of experience in with St. Francis. Uh they've also had some in other areas with administrative fine processes. This has been run past them. There's a few things we're still working
on uh with PD. PD is working on a couple of items as well on this because this does impact them and chapter 10 uh which they enforce for the most part. We do collaborate with them on a number of things as community development. Um but this does encompass all code
enforcement. So enforcement of the city code and enforcement of the unified development ordinance. Uh the couple of key items in this. So the reason for this, it's just another tool in the toolbox. So it's not as if this is end all beall that everybody's going to get
fined for every single code enforcement action. That's not the intent really. The intent of code enforcement is voluntary. It's not to punish people, right? It's just to have them voluntarily comply. Uh this is there for those cases where uh we have major
issues with enforcement. Uh with PD theirs would be it does impact them in the fee schedule. We did adjust a couple of those things. There was that whole chart that used to be in there that was pretty arduous for PD to go through and Chris can uh Chief
Limblum can talk about this if he wants to, but it was pretty arduous for them to hey I have to site under this thing and it's 25 here but it's 50 here but it's 100 here. So some of those items for public works with weed and grass ordinances and snow removal. Those were left but a lot of it went to more of a
straight stacked fee um where it's $50 across the board. it's much easier for them. Uh, in the provisions in here, a couple of key points to point out, and I'm not going to go through all of the items in there because you've had them in the pack and an opportunity to review
them, but uh, it would couple of things we're working on with legal criminalizing non-payment versus civil assessment of non-payment of fines. Um, PD has a couple of things that need to probably state criminal and so they're working with the city attorney
on that to determine which lines those are. And when we talk about civil assessment, we mean if somebody does get fined under this, do they get assessed if they don't pay and that's the preference um rather than going criminal because as we know the courts don't want to see a lot of the
nuisance stuff come through the system and it takes a long time. The assessment piece would say, well, if you're not paying, as the fines stack up, because it is a stacking system. If we get to the point to where we're finding somebody, it goes 50 and then you go to the I think it's 100 and then beyond that. If you're stacking up those fines and they get to a point you're not
paying, those get assessed to the property as well. >> Just like a water bill, it would come back on next year's assessment. >> Yep. Because a lot of times what we're running into right now, we've had this happen in community development and with PD. People are paying a $25 fine for a junk storage and then it's like, well, I
don't know what we do about it because if you send it to the county, a lot of times it's not being picked up. So, they'll just continue to pay $25 every time and then they can maintain the same condition. Um, so that's one thing we're just clarifying PD on this. It's again
discretionary. you know, it doesn't preclude the city from bringing criminal charges on certain aspects. It's just another tool that gives us discretion to proceed down that path. The uh there's kind of three penalty options. Payment of a penalty and correction of the violation. So, if they
do pay the penalty and they correct, they get to the point, then there's no further action. If they pay the penalty, but they don't correct the violation or the violation, then there can be subsequent citations or criminal proceedings or initiate any other and then no payment of penalty. Again, you
can assess those as well. We do talk about abatement in here. Um, abatement is a harder thing uh with the courts these days. So, whenever you have to abate, uh, our attorney has advised us that you have to obtain administrative warrant to
abate. You can't just go on there and abate. So, one of the things we've inserted into here is that there would be a form that we would provide because sometimes if somebody gets to the point to where they can't afford to take care of the issue, they can uh sign a form saying we allow the city to come on to
the site and abate the issue and then all of that the fees and anything would get assessed to the property or would be their responsibility. Uh abatement gets to be a pretty tricky process on some of these especially what's junk, what's not junk, where do you store it, how long do you store it. So there is an avenue there that we're
providing in the code edits as well. Should it get to the point to where they uh well when I say should it get to the point if they get fined and they want to appeal uh this is where the hearing process comes in. So there would be a hearing uh they would have to request it
within 10 days of receiving a citation uh once it's mailed or delivered to them. And then the hearing officer is somebody that's appointed by council. >> I'll mail it. So, so 3 weeks, four weeks, five weeks.
Um, yeah. Or hand delivered, I guess. Yep. No PO boxes. So, the neutral party would be whoever is appointed by the city council. Uh, we did we would work with BGS on that. They do know some individuals who do do that stuff. So, >> will this be we have this with the dog
ordinance where somebody can appeal that. Would this be the exact same party likely? Well, I don't know if it'd be the same party, but it's something we could Okay, the whole process, but it would be the same process. Yeah, >> it could be moving forward. >> Um, the party that we use for the dogs
um isn't doing that anymore. So, if we if we got to that point, we'd probably have to find a new party for that. So, it it's it's the same process. So, that person could be the same person. >> Y Okay. I mean that to me and we'll talk with legal but that makes the most sense
is to have them be the same individual. Um so the hearing officer would come in neutral party um again working with legal on that kind of similar it's on the city to provide the evidence. So we have the burden of proof um in that situation but the hearing officer can
make any judgment that they need to. Hey you have to pay the fine. Hey I'll wave portions of the fine. They can stay it. So any of those things you see in a typical hearing process they can do. It's just an informal proceeding here. Uh once they make their decision though, they make a finding. Once they make
their decision, that becomes final. Uh the appeal doesn't come to council or anything. It would go to the court of appeals if they do appeal the hearing officer's decision. So, um that's what we've been working on. Again, couple things from legal some of
the um again the hearings to dispute fine amounts rather than incentivizing. It's more of a hey, you have to reach out to the city if you want to appeal the citation. So, it puts it on the person to do it rather than us doing that. Um,
civil penalty versus criminal nonpayment. We've talked about that. And then just standardizing some terminology. We still have to work through that on civil penalty versus administrative fine, but I was talking to Greg about that. Civil penalty makes a lot of sense. We'll probably change things to make it to civil penalty rather than administrative fine. uh
civil penalty is carries more weight really and it's a little more serious. So those are the main points that I wanted to cover of what you're seeing in here. There's some other ancillary edits that we're working through just to clarify some things with commissions
unified development ordinance making sure that that's all cleaned up as well. There's some weed ordinance stuff. So there's some minor things that we are clearing up in here as well. Uh we are also work with Shannon too on the cotification. So, a lot of this would likely become part of that process, the
codification process, make it a lot cleaner and neater to go through. So, any questions, concerns? And I know we've talked about this a while ago, but we want we're closer to getting it to where we're ready to bring it forward. So,
>> are you just talking about chapter one right now? >> We're actually talking about one, two, and 10. So, chapter one is the process. Yep. >> Chapter 10 would be impacted because there's a chart in there from the finding standpoint that'll all get
removed and changed. And there's a few things that Chris is working on, Chief Limbum is working on on that side with legal. >> Sure. >> Like on chapter 2, I was just wondering community development, is that just in there as a definition like >> Oh, on the you're talking about Yep. So,
it's just adding some of those like >> to make sure it's clarified on who's who and where. Yep. Yep. And then like you'll see unified development ordinance in chapter 2 when it says board of adjustments, officers, things like that.
>> Yep. I didn't know when we when we're naming titles if if we don't have a title, how that all works. And >> Yep. And it can be it can be or as assigned, we can add that. did that with the other thing with um so we had a code enforcement officer in there but it was
getting a little confusing because public works was mentioned if it's not a director well is it an assistant director and so Greg suggested and I think it was a get it just says city administrator or assigned for code enforcement >> that's perfect just people get I get a lot of questions about that and I'm not
in favor of us hiring a code enforcement officer personally to drive around and nitpick everybody So, um, people call me about that all the time and ask why we don't have that. And I'm not in favor of >> Yeah. >> doing that personally.
>> And I we're not either. We >> not the whole Oh, no. We're We're not in favor of doing that either. We're complaint based for a reason like many small communities. Again, the goal is not to penalize people for violating the code. It's really compliance. This is
reserved for cases. And again, PD will probably use some of these more than we will in community development. I can think of I talked to Austin about this. We went through this past I think it was September and I talked to him today about it. We had three >> I couldn't think of one.
>> Yep. You pro three homes that would have reached this point. So where they would go through and probably either request a hearing or they're going to get assessed. But it is another tool that we have in the toolbox that allows us to do some
additional enforcement and it has more teeth than what we currently have. And that's part of the issue we've again I know I've hit on it, but we've run into that a number of times. That's been a big problem. People will just pay it and then we're kind of stuck. >> Cheaper than a storage locker.
>> Yeah. >> Right. >> Right. >> So when we have all the the amounts kind of crossed off just Can you just talk about that? >> Yeah. In chapter 10. >> Yeah. Yep. So, the amounts there, I talked with
Chief Limblum on these items. So, that whole section there was duplicated previously. So, it was not only was it in here, but it was also in the fee schedule. >> So, you'd have to update both. It's getting rid of this whole chart in here. And what is referenced is just the fee
schedule. >> Perfect. Yep. >> And now it's no longer, hey, it's 25 or 20 or 50. It's just your first violation is 50. Second violation if you continue to push it is X. >> So there's some other minor amendments in chapter 10. Just clarifying a few
things. Uh abatement code enforcement officer so that they're all related together. >> Sure. >> And it's not a >> Oh yeah, go right ahead. I just want real quick um just in case the question comes up with that fee change to the to
the 50. So there were some things in our fee schedule for things that we issued tickets for that went down, somes that stayed the same, some that went up um for that 50. One of the things I worked with Jacob on was um the ability in the wording in here will allow police department. You don't we don't have to
go to that next level. So, like an example would be somebody gets a winter parking ticket and three weeks later they do it again. Um, we have the ability to to to say we're just going to give you the same parking ticket as opposed to going to a $100 ticket or
$150. So, we did include language in there. We use our discretion at the police department for that reason so that we don't it's not an automatic like the second times 100. We can use that discretion. It just again provides more teeth if we should need it to be able to progress those fines for those that
don't want to make that change or come into compliance. So >> perfect. Thank you. >> Yeah, thanks Chief. That was a that's a good point and it gives us the same ability in community development. So >> and public works.
>> Yeah. on like weekly on the mayor's list serve people are talking about this and >> it's all over the board and it's hard because you want your city to look nice but you also don't like I said I don't think we need to be driving by everybody's house every day >> right
>> you know so >> some people will >> some people will for sure >> we just don't have from our having the staff time to do that is just not feasible I mean when you look at it the amount of time it takes to ride a Nost can tell do this and I can't do it. The amount of time it takes to write a
letter, send the letter out, mail the letter, follow up, the imaging, the documentation, it's a lot just for one enforcement. So, having somebody driving around do that, it's just for small communities just doesn't work. >> I think it's helped me uh personally just to think um if it's if I'm really
uncomfortable asking, you know, you guys to go out and enforce this and maybe we don't need it in our co, you know, that's how I've tried to think about it. if I really feel like a stoogge cuz you know like man I don't you don't I didn't do it you know yes I did you know I I have the ability just like everybody
else to change the code you know be a part of the process so >> um if I'm uncomfortable with that for that reason then maybe we >> should and I think if we've had we've got we've had this discussion before at planning commission but if we have a number of complaints that are very similar in what they are and we're
getting a ton of them well then is is that is that something that you're changing are you sticking with Is it something you need to change? And so to your point, we track that. It's part of why we went through the whole reszone unified development ordinance. >> I was just going to point out I think
the UDO is much easier to understand with the pictures and things like that. And maybe this gives us a chance if we track that to look at public education too because >> a lot of times people are unaware and don't know. So, if we can >> absolutely
>> maybe make that part of it where we are proactively saying, "Hey, did you know this is the ordinance? Here's what needs to be done." >> One example of that, you mentioned that we've actually talked about it and it'll be going out this spring. We didn't do it in the summer because it was kind of midsummer and we didn't want to, but some of the commercial frontes and
pieces just a nice letter. Here's some new ordinance requirements, signage, things like that. So, they're aware of those. So, we have talked about doing more education and then when people do get hit with a complaint from a neighbor, most of the time they have no
idea um that they're in violation of anything. And so, Austin's done a really good job of this and we try to make sure that they're well informed and educated on what it is, where it's at. Most people are pretty good about complying or responding when they get a violation
letter. Um just a few that don't. Sure. All right. Any more questions or do you have more? >> Nope. >> Any questions for Jacob? Do you need any? >> No. Just making sure that you didn't have any concerns or issues with it. We'll It won't be brought at the next
meeting. We still have a few things that Chief is working out. So, we have a few things to massage, but we'll bring that back um at a future meeting here. >> I saw the grass went to I think it was 8 in. >> Yeah, cuz it was six in one and eight in another. And so we got to clarify that too cuz that's
terrible when you get somebody it's like oh what is it? Well it's six or eight. It's hard to tell them. And I know >> seven. >> Yeah. Right. So we changed that. And we'll look for any other discrepancies in there too just to make sure. But >> it's been a I just want to say I
appreciate everybody's effort on this too. It's a collaborative thing on something like this. It's not a small feat especially to tackle three chapters that relate to each other. as Shannon probably well knows with codification. So, sure,
>> don't memorize the chapter, >> right? >> Chapter 11 is burned in my head. That's true. >> It's been repealed, Rick. It's gone. >> I know, but that's It'll always be chapter 11. It doesn't matter. >> All right. Thank you. Thank you very much.
>> Yep. Thank you. >> All right. Round table council have anything? >> Not me. No, >> I don't either. All right. Can adjourn at 609. >> Yeah. Some things will just like when
you say the new zoo, you know, doesn't doesn't matter. >> Hey, Chris, do you have 20 seconds? This is cool. >> Send it like two seconds after I submit it. >> Yes,
>> I learned this today. So it'll you can >> you know more than I do in there and you can have different settings. So it can let me know if that works for everybody.