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Flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> All right. Thanks everybody for being here. Uh we have the agenda in front of

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us. Does anybody have any changes? If not, we would entertain a motion to approve the council as I guess revised. We got a little the consent agenda is revised since we received it. So, I'll

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>> make a motion to approve the we'll call it revised agenda. >> I'll second. >> Okay. We have a motion by Rick, second by Becky. Is there any further discussion? Hearing none. All in favor, please state I. >> I. >> Anyone opposed, state no.

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>> All right. Agenda is approved. Guests and open forum. Hillary Dawson's here to talk about the Great River Regional Library. Welcome. >> Thank you. >> Good evening and thank you for giving me the opportunity to share how the Becker

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Library is serving the residents of Becker. My name is Hillilary Dawson and I am the library services coordinator for the Becker branch of the Great River Regional Library. I would like to take a few minutes to talk about library resources and how patrons interact with the library and then finish up with a

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few statistics. What comes to mind when you hear the word library? Most people would say books, stacks and rows and shelves of books. This is no surprise. After all, the dictionary definition of library is a building or room containing collections of books,

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periodicals, online resources um for people to read, borrow, and refer to. I think that's a bit dry. So, I invite you to think of the library as a place of stories, wonder, connection, and inspiration. Though stacks and rows of and shelves of books provide an

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opportunity for entertainment and education, through fictional stories, whether told in a book or a movie, we have the opportunity to see the world from another's perspective, connect with characters, and be inspired. Our non-fiction collection offers

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everything from comics to Northshore hiking guides, history and biographies, Thai cookbooks, and more. The library resources encourage the joy of lifelong learning. Beyond the shelves, we have a number of digital resources that surprise both

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adults and children. Novelist is one of those library joy kind of resources. When you don't know what to read next, Novelist can help you find your next favorite book. Based on book preferences, Novelist connects readers to similar titles, authors, book lists,

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and genre guides. If you want something more educational, you can access um private or I'm sorry, practice driving tests, um LinkedIn Learning or Chilton Library, just to name a few. The library provides a selection of essential practice materials for free as part of

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its partnership with driving tests.org. This is a fantastic opportunity to practice real um exam-like questions when preparing for a learner's permit, a driver's license, CDL, or motorcycle license. LinkedIn Learning offers training in business topics like

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marketing or career development, technologies such as database management or AI, and creativity like photography or web design. The Jilton database offers service and repair procedures, a

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video library, and ASSE test prep question uh quizzes. Looking for something for kids? We have Tumble Books um offering ebooks, readalongs, and animated story books with quizzes and book report templates. Or you can go to P um Pebble Go, which

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offers articles, videos, activities, and games covering topics like animals, biographies, states, and such. These are just a few of the databases offered, all for free with a library card. Library programming can also provide a sense of wonder and inspiration by

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giving patrons opportunities to explore and engage with the topic or an experience that is presented. We offer programs about arts and crafts, gardening, animal keeping, music, history, and culture. Patrons often leave these programs interested,

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educated, and inspired to try something new. Attending book club can encourage us to read outside of our normal genre and story um time connects families with each other as well as the library resources. Inspiration to go anywhere and be anything can be found through

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library resources and programming. So that's a quick peek at some of the libraries resources and services. Now let's take a look at the structure of Great River and a few of the statistics. So great river regional library is one library system serving six counties

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through 32 different individual branches. Our mission is to serve all central motans with library collections and services. We are able to do this because of the way that great river is structured. First we have a floating collection. This means that every

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library card holder has access to everything in our collection regardless of where the item is currently housed. Patrons who call our smallest branches home can access a and request items not housed in their home branch. Library services are also available to everyone

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regardless of branch size or location through opportunities like book a librarian where a librarian actually comes to you at your branch to help you work through whatever it is that you're needing or technology that allows us to offer services like print to go. Whether one walks into the St. Cloud Library,

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our largest branch or any of our smaller branches. The opportunity to access items and services is the same. All branches in our system value um exceptional service, forward thinking, and community focus. The statistics under Great River um by the numbers on

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this slide represent Great River as a whole, the collective branches um serving Sherburn County and the Becker Library. The stat statistics on this slide um are specific to Becker. Becker Public

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Library has 2532 borrowers. Please excuse that typo on the screen. The library houses more than 15,000 items, circulated over 50,000 items, and had 4,500 information requests. In 2025,

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we registered 384 students for summer reading challenge and 83 adults and teens for winter reading challenge. This slide um displays a few of our programs. We offer story time and book club on a regular schedule, puzzle

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tournaments, author visits, um art and craft opportunities. Um all of those are are offered periodically. They're all wellreceived and attended by our community. In other library news, we have added a decodable books collection through our

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locally grown fundraiser. Um, our connections with the the community are being fostered through outreach and partnerships such as the Sherburn County Public Health Family Celebration, Touch a Truck, um, Becker Schools Art Show, which is going to open on Thursday. So,

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come and join us for that. That's a fantastic um, opportunity to see what the kiddos are doing in school. And we also um invite the first graders in for goal. Um the supportive roles of our Becker friends of the library and volunteer um library volunteers play an

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indispensable um role in our ability to serve the community. So I want to thank them as well. This concludes the BI uh the Becker Libraries annual update and I'm happy to answer any questions that you may have. >> All right, questions from councel.

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Mhm. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Thanks, Hillary. Appreciate the job you're doing. Keep up the good work. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> All right. Is there anybody else here tonight to speak at open forum? >> All right. We will move on then to

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committee reports, presentations, and awards. We have the certificate of achievement for excellence in financial reporting. Sarah Rafflesburgger is here. Hope I said that right. >> That is right. >> All right.

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>> It's long but phonetic. >> Good evening or afternoon, whichever you want to classify, uh, the current time, mayor and council. I am here on behalf of the Minnesota Government Finance Officers Association to officially present the certificate of achievement for excellence in financial reporting or

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COA to the city of Becker for the year ended December 31st, 2024. The city's 2024 audited annual comprehensive financial report, also known as an ACTUR, was prepared and submitted to the national GFOA by June

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30th of 2025. And the city was recently notified of the award after review by an impartial panel of peer professionals from across the nation. This panel evaluates the city's report against high standards of the program, including a 600 plus

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checklist of items that need to be met. The certificate of achievement is the highest form of recognition for governmental accounting and financial reporting. Its attainment represents significant accomplishment by a government and its management, signifying that Becker's financial statements go beyond basic reporting

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requirements and clearly communicate the city's financial condition to residents, policymakers, investors, and oversight bodies. Earning the COA demonstrates three key things. First, it reflects a strong commitment to transparency and

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accountability. As I mentioned, the report is reviewed by independent finance professionals to ensure it is accurate, well organized uh and easy to understand or as easy as you can possibly make a financial report uh understandable. Second, it highlights

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excellence in financial management. Achieving the COA means Becker is following nationally recognized best practices in governmental accounting and reporting. And third, and probably most importantly, it builds public trust and credibility. The certificate reassures

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taxpayers, granters, and bond rating agencies that the city manages public funds responsibly and openly. This is the third consecutive receipt of the award. Um, a couple years ago, Mark did quite a bit of work uh to get it. Once you kind of have it, it's a little bit easier to to get it each year. Um, but

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this is the third time and the city is in the process of preparing the 2025 ACTER for submission for a fourth award. I want to recognize Mark and the finance team and the rest of management for the hard work put into this achievement. I've known Mark for many years. We won't say how many. Uh, but he actually was a

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part of the interview that started my career in government finance and I owe a lot to his guidance and mentorship. Also, I'd like to recognize the city for its commitment to excellent financial reporting, especially since I personally am a resident. So, thank you for that and congratulations on the award.

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>> Congratulations. >> Thank you. >> All right. >> All right. >> Picture of that. >> Did you get a picture, Don? >> No, I didn't. >> We can take a minute to allow you to do that if you'd like to

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>> get that done. Shake hands. >> Not staged at all. We're good. >> Thank you, Sarah. Congratulations, Mark, and all of our finance staff. We we commend you for this awesome achievement, and look forward to many

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more years of you receiving it. So, thank you very much, Sarah. Thanks for coming out and um you won't be re rude if you have to leave. We understand you're you're probably busy. So, you're welcome to stay, but you don't have to. All right,

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committee meetings. EDA is up. >> EDA met on Monday, April 13th. Um, we talked about our reserve funds and just talked about ideas about what we might use those for. And no decisions

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were made. will um be getting more ideas put together something more solid and then um a planning update uh Lann project they received the tip applications and escrow money and that's all I have for you.

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>> All right, any questions for Robin? Thank you very much. Fireboard Rick. >> Fireboard, we met uh last night. Uh we had an update on the uh the audit process, the annual audit. So that'll be uh being presented to us I think the first week of June is it or f the June

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meeting I guess it' be the not the first week but um third week of June. Um the uh calls for uh calls in March were uh similar to what they were in 2025. So no uh no spikes or dips. Um and then just an update on the grass rig uh continues

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uh it's being built right now and that's continuing. And then um one of the uh computers uh um that runs in the radio room uh died. So we had to uh authorize purchase of another one. So uh that was about it. All right. Any questions for

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Rick? Awesome. We'll move on then to number seven on the agenda. Public hearings. We have a building permit fee schedule amendment. Jacob Sanders. And should we open the public hearing now?

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>> Yeah. All right, it's open. >> Great. Thank you, Mayor Council. >> 5:14. Sorry. >> That's all right. Uh, we have before you tonight the fee schedule amendments for the building official services. So, at the last council meeting, we had Rum

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River here talking about the proposed contract that they submitted and the fee schedule amendments. So, you'll notice in the packet that there's two ordinances. They relate to each other. We kept the fee schedule for the building permits

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separate from the main fee schedule, although it's referenced in the updated fee schedule. So, we took everything out of the existing one reference to exhibit A except for the card fees that we need to keep in there when people use their cards here for the permitting software

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that we use and um the payment system. So with that, we've relied on the 97 UBC for a long time and with the shift to Rum River, we need to update the fee schedule to accommodate for their

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services to align with uh statutory requirements and to really their uh they've gone through a lot of work to make this kind of more defensible, understandable. It is more comprehensive, you'll notice, but it covers everything and it does make it more transparent to what people are getting charged and the square footages

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that they're getting charged for when they come to valuation. So, with that, uh, we would be seeking a motion and a second to approve the ordinance number 301, second series, and ordinance 301 exhibit A and the second

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sum second series summary for publishing. And with that, I will answer any questions. So, it is it is an increase so that the public is aware there is an increase in these fees, but it's not it's kind of in alignment with what the market sees and it's not exorbitant increases in what we're

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seeing. So, okay. Is there anybody here tonight to speak at the public hearing? Okay. We'd entertain a motion to close the public hearing. >> We'll make the motion to close public hearing. >> Second. We have a motion by Rick, second by Robin. Any further discussion

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hearing? None. All in favor, please state I. I. >> Anyone oppose, state no. All right. Public hearing is closed. I have one question, Jacob. Let's say >> we we do this for a year, a year and a half, or whatever. We decide we want to

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go back to our own building official. How does this process affect that? So I think with the current ones that you have in here, we could take a look at it at that time to make sure it fits with our if it's a loaded wage for a building official, all of those things as it's

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covering the staff time, the inspections. So we can make sure it covers that. I anticipate that with the length of time we've gone under the old UBC that it's probably in alignment with what we would see or that with that. We did increase the fees if you recall a few years ago to 65 on over the

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counter 15 bucks up and we're going to do that incrementally anyway to cover some of those costs. So, but at the time if we do come back with an internal official, we would make sure that the numbers are in alignment with that. Okay. I just anticipate that they probably are.

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>> Sure. Okay. Thank you. >> Yep. Any other questions for Jacob? If not, I would entertain a motion to approve ordinance 301 second series and ordinance 301 second series exhibit A. I'll >> make that motion. I'll second.

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>> We have a motion by Robin, second by Becky. Is there any further discussion? Hearing none. All in favor, please state I. >> I. >> Anyone opposed state no. That motion carries. Then we need a motion to publish the A4 mentioned ordinances.

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I'll make that motion as well. >> I'll second that one. >> Okay. Motion by Robin, second by Becky. Is there any further discussion? Hearing none. All in favor, please state I. >> Anyone opposed, state no. That motion carries as well. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Jacob.

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>> All right. Board, committee, and consultant reports. We have a pond lining for hole number 10 at Pebble Creek. Mr. Kudson. Good evening, mayor and council. In front of you tonight, we're uh

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considering a pond liner on hole number 10. Um it's kind of a funky project because uh the reason it coincides with our street improvements uh saw 23 and Edgewood. Uh as we started the design work on Edgewood, we knew that we needed to because of the state standards of the

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road design, we needed to capture some of that water uh through curb and storm. Uh but we didn't have any place to convey that water. uh we're getting that trail out of the ditch and we need to put that water someplace. So instead of working with property owners to try and acquire additional rightway or easement, uh we thought if we could convey it to

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the course, it might serve a couple of purposes. One, we pump a lot of water into those ponds to keep the amenities looking good on the course. And if we could capture some of the rain water, fill the ponds up, and then create overflows into our other ponds, ultimately ending on the irrigation pond, we could recycle our own water and

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make it efficient by doing so. Uh unfortunately, pond uh 10 uh on hole 10 uh is claylined uh similar to what we just did on pond number four. And so it's losing a lot the clay liner is is uh been punctured and it and we're losing a lot of water there. So we're pumping a lot of water nightly to keep

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that amenity full. So while we do this project, it'll be in conjunction with the street projects as well, so we can inlet some of that water. We can hold it at pond 10 to the level that we want to. There'll be a spillway uh with this project that'll connect a 10-in pipe

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from uh number number 10 to uh number four pond. The spillway on number four pond is the creek that runs down to the irrigation basin and then we'll pump that right back up. We do have a spillway on the irrigation basin that will release it to the Elk River uh and the waterershed there if we need to. So,

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uh with that uh we worked with uh two different companies uh uh actually three ultimately. Ruck did not bid on this project. Uh G&M companies did as did DW companies. Uh DW, if you recall, they they were the low bid on pond number four. Uh they were not the low bid on on

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this project. We were uh asking for two different bids. One to do the pond liner itself. It'll include a drain tile under the pond to release any gases and or water seepage that gets out. Um and also to do a directional drill, combination of directional drill drill and open cut

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to connect the pond. It's roughly 400 feet to connect 10 to four. Um G&M submitted both of those bids. Uh their combined bid on the project uh came in at about $115,000. Uh DW uh came in just for the pond

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liner. Uh came in at $123,000. So we were anticipating right around that 110 120. So it was where we were at and and we were looking to do the connection ourself as staff uh and working with the golf course staff through public works. Um, I'm pleased to say I don't want to do that if we don't

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have to because of the timing of the course and the disruption of the course. So, tonight in front of you, I would look for a motion to approve this which would be able to accomplish both of those projects. And I've put a little bit of a contingency in there just in case there's something unforeseen that we we don't know or unaware of right

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now. So, the total ask is about $122,000. The funding of this is is going to be part of the uh the Edgewood Street improvement projects. Um, and so depending on where those that that that bid hasn't been let yet, so we don't know where those numbers are coming in.

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So depending on where those dollars, uh, reside, this could come from the future improvement that will also fund any overages on that. So, uh, working with finance team to make sure that we're keeping all of this separate because it it is kind of funky, but we're running them in parallel to make it all happen.

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And, um, yeah, it's a great project. Um it it it there's an environmental aspect to it. So it kind of touches a lot of things but also a big need for that trail too. So uh with that I can stand for any questions. Otherwise looking for movement on that resolution.

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>> All right. Any questions for Phil? >> Nope. I'm >> assuming timing wise it'll all be coordinated with the county and that that's the plan to get it. >> Our goal is to is to get as much of our work done and out of there. We're not impeding the county. Uh next meeting

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we'll have a trail um of a cart path that we're re repositioning that would be in the in the the way of the county's project. So that'll be on May 5th. We'll we'll bring that back to you. Uh this one is really more dependent on course play and if if the contractor um is

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likely to get started ASAP if this is approved and then we can get it done prior to the state tournament. If that timing doesn't line up then it's after the state tournament. That that's our premier event. So, we got to make sure the course is and they're they'll be held to that standard. If they disturb

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anything, it's got to be over and done and uh and receded and ready to go for the tournament. So, they could start as soon as next next week, otherwise it'll be the towards the end of of June. Okay. >> And this is this is uh really in lie of

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um us not doing full um uh um storm water underneath, you know, under Edgewood. I mean that this is this is much cheaper than if we were to run a storm water pipe which is what what originated this. >> Yep. So in in conjunction currently there's a there's a a a drain pipe that

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goes it it's actually it feeds to the golf course to the ditch. It's more in line with Edgewood and it's a it's about 200 ft south of the pond. So with the new alignment of of Edgewood or the the new project that drain pipe is going to move north and come perpendicular into

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the pond. Uh, so it'll be a direct flow and and the the outlet will release right into the pond. So there'll be no surface water sitting anywhere on the course or impact any of the play. >> So and yeah, any ditching, you know, right now the the the the width of Edgewood with the trail being there, we

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just run out of room to make stuff fit and we know the flooding of that trail from Brenda to to 23 is the worst section of it. So we need to get that water someplace. So conveying that into the county drain system through onto our course, it it's a win for everybody involved with it. Property owners, users

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of the trail and the county. So >> um >> and it just happened to be cheaper alternative. So I mean Yeah. >> Yeah. >> All right. Any other questions for Phil? >> Hearing none. Would someone like to offer a motion on resolution 2629 to

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allow staff to enter into the agreement with G&M companies for the Pond Liner project on Hole 10? >> I'll make that motion. >> Motion by Rick. Do we have a second? >> I'll second. >> And Becky seconds. Do we have any further discussion? Hearing none. All in favor, please state

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I. I. >> Anyone opposed, state no. Motion carries. Awesome. Thank you. Uh, >> you're up again. Sorry. >> Yes. I'm waiting for the announcement. No. Okay. >> Oh, sorry. The the 2026 Street

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improvements bid award. You know, Phil, he doesn't do anything without a presentation. Come on. >> That was my cue to go. So, I was just like, >> Mr. Kudson, >> ladies and gentlemen, >> thank you, Mayor Councel. Uh, in front of you tonight, uh, yes, is the, uh, uh, opportunity to award bids for our 2026

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street improvement projects. Um uh if you recall back on on the 17th of March, you authorized us to take this project out for bid. On April 13th, we at 2:00 we had a bid opening. So we had four biders for the project. Uh the bids ranged uh from 1,337,622

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to1,442913. Um so favorable bid uh compared to what we were anticipating through some of the the oil prices and the fuel prices and all that stuff. uh favor very favorable bid. Uh again, what we're bidding are are uh a couple of base bids. Uh base

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bid a Hillrest Road, Pine View Drive from uh River's Edge to Rolling Ridge Road, Jade Street, 35th Avenue, New Connection, uh Martin Drive, Carroll Drive from Abbey Avenue to Laura Circle, Abbeby Avenue, and Twilight Avenue. Uh along with that, we also included the

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new uh uh parking lot for the public works uh facility. Um base bid B is if you remember back to the quiet zone uh this the state or BNSF give us the thumbs up to say okay put it into this year's projects. So there's some curbing that needs to be done to find that that uh quiet zone in compliance with their

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standards. So we held that out. It's it's likely to come from the the street CIP anyhow because we're improving the street but we just wanted to know what that that number was specifically. Uh so that was part of that. We also had an alternate for the workhorse on on Birdie Lane. um the development over there.

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We're working with the developer on that. So, it's a little bit unique tonight because the the bid come back. He's not made the commitment. He wanted to get another bid from a contractor that he and his partner use a lot. Um using same standards that we have and all that stuff. They'll go through the same inspection regardless who the

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contractor is. So, I'd be looking for movement to accept everything here, but we wouldn't award that portion of of the agreement unless we got an agreement in place with the developer. Uh, so we would just uh have another contract there. There's not a lot of iron

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involved with that. It's it's really um just raising the the manholes and uh using the ring. So, it's it's pretty easy to get. We don't have to order order order much for that. So, I think it'll it'll work out okay. So, um, with that, we'll isolate all of these costs, um, because we've got some different

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funding coming from public works, CIP, the Jaden 35th, because that's, uh, future improvements that'll be there. They'll we'll work with the developer on that as well. So, already worked with finance as far as how those codes will be set up so we can really itemize every every dollar where it should go and put

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it in the right bucket. So, uh, overall, we're very pleased with, uh, with the the bids that came back. Uh, one thing of note, uh, Capital Paving is the one who's the low bid. Um, they've resurfaced, uh, for the most part. It's it's OMG or Minnesota Paving 2.0. Mo

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most of the folks, um, that were there. Um, uh, New Look, I believe it's New Look, right, Randy? >> Correct. >> Yeah. New Look is the is the financial backing for this company and it's their paving division. So, it's a lot of the same players that we've worked with, uh, the same project manager we've had that they've been low bid for this will be

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their fourth year in a row. So, we've got a really good rhythm there and a really good communication. So, staff's pretty excited that this is where it's at. So, >> and then like I said, Ry's in in the audience. So, if you've got any questions for for Randy, um Randy, do you have anything to add? Okay.

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>> Okay. So, with that, uh I can stand for any questions if you guys have them. Otherwise, looking for a bid to move forward with capital paving as our 2026 street improvement contractor. >> All right. Any questions for Phil or Andy? If not, we'd entertain a motion for

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resolution 2630 to award the contract for the 26th Street Improvement Project. >> I'll make that motion. >> Okay, we have a motion. Second, Becky and a second by Rick. Is there any further discussion? >> Hearing none. All in favor, please state I. >> I.

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>> Anyone opposed? State no. >> Motion carried. Any idea when when street projects will start? Um I I'm guessing we're going to have probably a 10day maybe two week uh contract window. So we'll get that going. Uh typically we don't see them in town until after

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Memorial Day. Um but we'll work on a Q&A that we'll send out to those impacted and then we'll keep it current on our on our website as well. So I'm guessing we'll see something late May or or first week in June. Uh there's nothing directly impacting um Freedom Days, the

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the parade and stuff, but we'll keep a tight eye on that. They've been very respectful of that and and uh Jerry Jerry Sigfrieded with SE will be our on-site inspector again and he's he's got it down. He knows uh what we need and where we need it. So, but uh more to

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come uh so residents can kind of keep tabs on our website. We'll we'll keep pushing messages out that way and then those impacted along the way will be getting direct mail uh pieces to keep the information flowing to them as well. >> Fantastic. All right. Thank you very much.

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>> All right. Letter C, the 2026 street life extension microsurfacing. Mr. Listen. >> Good evening, Mayor and Council. Uh, tonight I have for you an RCA in resolution 2626 uh for our street life extension. We're proposing microsurfacing on First

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Street. Um, we're going from Gardener all the way to Edgewood and Bradley Boulevard from First Street to Third Street. So microsurfacing is a life extension practice. We've discussed it with our public works committee. We've used it a few times here in city of Becker. Uh we applied on Third Street in

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2021 and we used it in several different areas in 2024. Elquin, Fawsome Fields, Hancock Street, Liberty Lane. Um so it's something we've used. We've been happy with the results from it. Um this particular version will be two applications. The first application

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would be to kind of fill in cracks, smooth out the surface. The second application would be more of the wear course to provide some more wearability and friction on the surface. So, it provides a good surface for travelers and a safe surface. Uh, we did get two bids for the project, uh, Aztec and

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Farnner. Aztec did provide the lower bid. Uh, we do have money available, um, from two locations, our MSAS funding. Uh, we can use some of that because these are defined as MSAS streets. Uh, so we can use uh, some of that to cover the cost. And then we also have $85,000

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budgeted in our streets AIP um, for for this type of work. Um yeah, I think that's all I had. Um this is going to also help us in the fact that we can extend the life. So we look for an extension of life of 6 to 10

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years, probably leaning more towards the six year mark based on the traffic that we have in those streets. Third Street is on year five now. And uh it's it's it's done well, but it's starting to show a little bit. So but that will help us push these streets out in our cap. um

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first street that entire stretch was part of it was due in 2028 for a full reclaim and pave. The other part was 2031. So this should get us out to at least 2032. Bradley, that section was due in 28. So again, we can move that to

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2032. Uh really looking at those streets as not sure that we would get to those years without some kind of work to the street. This would be an a cost effective way to get us there and a good way too. So rather than our just crack filling and pothole filling, this will make those streets in good shape for at

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least another good 5 to 6 years for sure. And with that tonight, then I'd look for a motion and a second to approve resolution 2626 authorizing staff to contract with Aztec to complete microsurfacing work as described in the

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RCA for a price not to exceed $128,600. That I will stand for any questions. >> All right, questions for Chris. Is this a different contractor than did Hancock? >> Yes, that was that was Farner, the other one that quoted. So, >> yep. The the biggest difference between

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these two would be Farner uses a truck to apply. So, they have the applicator on the back of a truck. Aztec uses a paver. So, uh if you watch any of the Mindot videos, they say you should never you should only use a paver when you're doing this work. So, um, that said, we were we're fairly pleased with Farer in

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the in the work they've done, but, uh, the price from Aztec was better, and now we'll get to see how their application process works with the PA. So, >> yeah, I felt like when the Hancock Street was done, there was a lot of public complaint about it. >> That was before my time on council, but

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I heard from a lot of people about that one. >> We did. So, we did get a the looks of it when it was first applied. We do have some areas that we had worked with Farnner and discussed kind of their end product and how we weren't satisfied with some of the looks. As far as the functionality of the of the application, it has done what it's supposed to do, at

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least for the first two years so far. Um, but yes, we did have comments on I hope you didn't pay money for that. It looks terrible. So, it's the the application process. It's not new pavement. So, it's not going to have that same look. And I think some people were expecting it to have the look of

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new pavement. It's it's not that. It's it's definitely a preservation process. Um, one of the things we like about this process is that it sets up very quickly. So, you can put traffic back onto it within an hour. So, that that is a very advantageous piece to this and it's affordable in the grand scheme of

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things. So, Yep. >> All right. >> We were we were cognizant of that. Yes. >> Sounds good. >> Mhm. >> So, if we have u if we're saying we're going to pay for it out of the MSAS funds, don't we have all those tied up with Edgewood for the next five years? a percentage of it is used can be used for

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maintenance as well. So that we would use a percentage of that covered maintenance cost. I believe that's >> oh has to be even better. >> You have to allocate a portion of it. >> Okay. >> We allocate the smallest amount required >> for maintenance. >> Okay.

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>> Good question. >> Great. Any other questions for Chris? All right. And we're looking for a motion on resolution 2626 authorizing staff to contract with Aztec for microsurfacing not to exceed

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$128,600. >> I'll make that motion. >> Have a motion by Robin. Do we have a second? >> Second. Second by Rick. Any further discussion? Hearing none. All in favor, please state I. >> Anyone opposed, state no.

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>> Motion carries. Thank you, sir. All right, moving on to administrator and staff reports. Mr. Sanders is back up with the building official professional services agreement. Thank you, mayor, council. So, part two of what we talked about earlier. Um,

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with again the recent resignation of the building official, we met with Rum River, who we have a current contract with. It's hourly based which is 95 bucks an hour which is what we will be build for this last little bit which is very expensive very quick. So with that

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uh the current contract has a few different percentages for plan review share any ranging from 75 to 90% for some state delegated. The new contract would go to an 80% share or I should say

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Run River will retain 80% of the plan review and permit fee for just general and for pre-existing and state delegated it's 85% of both the plan review and the permit fee. So um that's more across the board rather than all over the place and

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rather than an hourly rate for the permit inspections. So, we would retain a percentage of that. And uh again, this was kind of talked about at the executive session. So, the attorney did review the agreement. Uh they did make some changes based on the attorney's

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comments. And the draft contract does have some exhibits in there. Again, you'll notice that there's some state delegation in there, which is important. That's been pretty advantageous to the city for plumbing over the years. And so this would include a number of other state delegations that we would be

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getting with Rum River on top of that which hopefully will save time for local developments. So with that, we would be seeking a motion and a second approving resolution 2627 to approve the professional services

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agreement with Rum River Consultants for designated building official services. And with that, I will answer any questions. >> Right. Any questions for Jacob? >> Nope. >> Hearing none. Does someone want to offer

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a motion on resolution 2627 to appoint and enter into our agreement for our building services? I'll make that motion. >> I'll second. >> We have a motion by Rick, second by Becky. Is there any further discussion? >> Hearing none. All in favor, please state

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I. I. >> Anyone opposed, state no. >> That motion carries. Thank you very much. You're up again for the Northland Security's TIFF Assistant Assistance Professional Services Agreement. >> You're going to be sick of me by the

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time I'm done. Thank you, Mayor Council. So, we have received, as um Councilwoman Dingman said, we have received two applications for TIF. So, the it would be two separate TIFF

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districts. And in order to analyze that, so Northland Securities acts as our consultant for public finance for a number of different things. So bonding, a number of different public finance projects on an as needed basis. Because we don't have

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an existing contract with them, we need to have a service agreement. So simple similar to supplemental uh agreement with engineering, this is a supplemental agreement for analyzing the TIFF information. So Northland would complete that. Once the analysis is complete, the

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findings we would bring back to council to present the findings, what they mean for further discussion. So we wouldn't take any further steps because there are statutory requirements before you proceed with actually issuing the tiff. So creating a tiff plan, giving 30 days

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notice to um county commissioners, to the school district, and others. None of that would happen until council gives kind of the nod that yes, the analysis fits and Northland has done their analysis, presented it to you, and you give the approval to move forward should

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you wish to do that. So, this really just takes it through the analysis. If it gets to the point to where the analysis checks the boxes, the project works, and you are comfortable with um proceeding with tax reinccrement financing, we would obtain the fees to

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complete the rest of the process from the developer. So with that, uh the attorney has also reviewed this agreement. um changes were incorporated and a motion in a second is what staff is seeking to approve resolution 2628

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that would approve that professional services agreement with Northland for tiff assistance and the payment for that analysis comes from the developer themselves. So, they gave a $500 application and a $12,500 tiff escrow worth a total of $13,000 and

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then not to exceed the Northland put is not to exceed 13 grand. And with that, I'll answer any questions. All right. Anybody have any questions for Jacob? If not, we'd entertain a motion for resolution 2628 approving the

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professional services agreement with Northland for the TIFF analysis. I'll make that motion. >> I'll second. >> We have a motion by Becky, a second by Robin. Is there any further discussion? Hearing none. All in favor, please state I. I. >> Anyone opposed, state no.

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>> Motion carries. >> Thank you. >> Thank you very much, Mr. Lur's up with a proposed change to section 6.27 of city code, hours of operation for massage establishments. Mayor Corbinger and city council members, at the April 7th city council

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meeting, the council heard from a licensed massage therapist request to expand hours. Currently, they are Monday through Friday, uh 6:00 to 9:00, and on the weekends, they are 9 to9. The request was to go from 6:00 a.m. to 9:00

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p.m. every day of the week. And uh at the exact session last time, the council directed staff to come back with an ordinance consistent with that. Um, I'm not sure why in the packet the the modified language didn't didn't translate. So, I did put a new one

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there. Um, we'll have to figure out what's going on with with PDF. It didn't copy. So, that shows the the changes made uh to the ordinance and it was a relatively simple simple addition. And so, I'll be happy to answer any

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questions about that. Um, if there are not questions, uh, we'd be seeking a motion, a second to approve ordinance 300, second series. You will notice that we don't have a summary for this one. And typically, you would do a summary if you had a very long ordinance. Um, we

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don't need to do summaries on short ones. In fact, by the time you got done doing a summary with this one, you might as well publish the language. And so, that's that's why you won't see a summary here. >> Okay. I'll be happy to answer any questions. >> All right. So, we're letting people get a massage Saturday or Sunday morning

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from 6:00 to 9:00 if that's your thing. Get one before church. There you go. >> Freedom for a weekend early morning massage act. Do we have a anybody want to make them? We got to name it. I mean,

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so we're looking for a motion on um approving ordinance 300, second series, revising that to allow the early morning massages. >> I'll make that motion. I'll second >> motion by Rick, second by Becky. Any further discussion? Hearing none. All in favor, please state

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I. >> Anyone oppose, state no. >> That motion carries. All right. Hey, we'll take it. We'll get we'll get a clapping here. Thank you. Good luck with your early morning work. >> Thank you.

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>> All right. Next up, looks like it's uh insurance agent request for proposals. Yep. Okay. Uh Mayor Cobberger, city council members, uh staff was contacted a couple of months ago by a local agent

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uh inquiring how they could become the city's insurance agent. We are with the League of Minnesota Insurance Trust and they do require uh that we have an agent represent us. We have been with Corporate 4 for as long as anybody can remember. Uh subsequent to that uh

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another a local agent reached out to Mayor Cobinger asking the same question, different one. And so a staff we thought the the only way that we're going to be able to to look at this is by going through an RFP process to so we can compare apples to apples. Uh corporate 4 has been advised that we are we were

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bringing this tonight and they're welcome to submit a proposal. It's nothing to do with any service that um we've received, but um after a number of years, it's always a good idea to just kind of look look at the the field as well. So, uh this RFP was prepared um

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based on a model of another city. Um Mark and I included things that we thought would be u they would have to know in order to assemble a proposal. So, all that's there. The deadline for these is May 27th. Um, I'm kind of envisioning that this would probably go to finance committee for an initial

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review before it came to the council. And with that, I'll be happy to answer any questions. >> So, it's still the same carrier no matter who does it. It's just the agent. >> Any agent, licensed agent Minnesota can be um our agent. >> Sure.

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>> The agent mean that's who you call first. And if if we >> we do we um as a staff do almost all of the work. there's not a a a great need. Uh it is nice to have um some of that expertise. Sometimes they do go over the coverages. There's been this last time

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there were some changes about some general liability and liquor liability coverage. It's been helpful. Um but staff has largely manages the renewals and that type of activity. >> So do they propose a percentage based on what our overall

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>> They could do a percentage or a flat fee. Yep. It's fat flat fee now. >> Yeah, >> I think it's great if we would have somebody qualified local to do it. We should try. So, I'm definitely in favor

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of this. Any other questions for Greg? >> All right. We look for a motion on the uh putting out the RFP um to try to look at our insurance carrier. >> Make that motion. >> Second. A motion by Robin, second by

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Rick. Is there any further discussion hearing? None. All in favor, please state I. >> Anyone oppose, state no. Motion carries. That will be great. Thank you very much. And consent agenda. Mr. Larude. Again,

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>> Mayor Cobinger and city council members, items for review, approval, uh, or adoption on tonight's consent agenda include the revised hiring and termination report authorized the Tuesday, April 21, 2026 payment of claims is presented. The claims listing has been provided to the city council as

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a separate document and is available upon request for public view at city hall. The total claims are $334,24268. authorized electronic transactions as presented in the February 28th, 2026 journal. The journal has been provided to the city council as a separate

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document and is available for public view at city hall upon request. Approve the minutes of the April 7th city uh council meeting. Approve the minutes of the April 7th executive session. Approve the minutes of the April 9th local board of appeal and equalization meeting.

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Approve the Axon fleet system edition. approve farm lease number 26-03 to Kasowski Group. And with that, I'll be happy to answer any questions. >> All right. Any questions for Greg on the consent agenda? >> Hearing none. Do we have a motion to

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approve the consent agenda as revised? >> I'll make a motion to approve the consent agenda as revised. >> I'll second. >> We have a motion by Rick, second by Becky. Is there any further discussion? Hearing none. All in favor, please state I. I. Anyone opposed? State no. Motion

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carried. Anybody else have any further business for the regular council meeting? >> Nope. >> All right. We have a motion to adjurnn. >> So moved. >> We have a second. >> Second. >> Motion by Rick, second by Robin. All in

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favor of adjourning, please state I. >> Anyone opposed, state no. >> Meeting adjourned at 5:48. take a couple minute break and come back with the executive session. >> That Oh yes, thank you.

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>> That that will help. Thank you very much. I know everyone knows about my stew now. >> Your what? >> I almost left cuz I was like so excited to get home to my beef stew. I spent like an hour and a half last night prepping everything so I could just throw it in the crock pot this morning.

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>> I was like running out the door. >> Forgot it. >> And left it. >> No, no, it's fine. Everyone's at home. I just wasn't going to come to council. >> I was so excited to go eat it. >> I was just gonna leave, >> you know? Like my alarm went off and everything and I just missed it. I was

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like, that can't be important. >> There's no way that's more important than my beef stew. >> I don't know how to compete with beef stew. Sorry. >> I'm going to go eat that. >> Hey, I don't I don't know if I uh believe you. I mean, you might have to, you know, I mean, bring a sample. >> Yeah, I mean, you got sample. I mean,

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there's only one way to decide it. >> I make it with my Dutch oven, but I wasn't there to attend it, you know, so >> that's when it gets the most love, but I'm around it more often. >> All right. >> I I would still be disturbing, but

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>> Thank you. I spilled coffee on the old one. I spilled coffee on the old one. Double check that I have the rate right because that's the 24. >> Sure Mike's not here and we're going to talk about solid waste discussions. It's his favorite topic. >> It is

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delused. >> Well, should we just do it? >> Yep. >> All right. So, we will call the April 21st executive session to order at 5:50. First up, we have our solid waste discussion and the draft ordinance with

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Mr. Larude. >> So, Mayor Cobinger, at uh the January 6 work session, the council discussed the the current city code as it relates to garbage and solid waste. And um it's pretty obvious that the current code is very inadequate. That was included in

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with this packet. And so based on that discussion um you know I think we had a discussion of really doing no change all the way up to you know full organiz organized collection um that it was more centered on let's put some structure and some basic regulations into what we're

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doing right now. And so we took other cities examples uh I think they were shared at the January 6 work session they became the basis of it um incorporated the things in there that seemed to fit with what our direction was. uh had city attorney uh review it

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and so the draft uh before you tonight is is based on that discussion. So we create a section of definitions, general regulations which are really what the current code is right now. They are regulations for property owners in town

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that they need to properly dispose of garbage that they generate. Then there's um require requiring haulers to be licensed by the city. Um and the city attorney is very clear this is we are not doing organized collection with this. This is a this is just regulating

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garbage collection. Um and so we proposed in the ordinance that the the number of uh licenses would be capped to current haulers. I guess we really don't know how many current haulers we have because we don't have any contact with them. >> Um so we'll have to work on that.

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There's an application process and requirements that they need to have. Um and then the the collection requirements. So that that's really the the basis of the ordinance and staff would just look for feedback and >> and next steps.

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The only thing I noticed um I think we had I somewhere I saw um it said six and I think we had talked about the number seven for some reason was seven our current plus one or was it >> just current was it can be anything you want Rick but I I think I put six in there because we thought we had six.

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>> Okay. So, six ended up being what we >> and I think the the discussion was if one goes away or gets bought out, we now we then change the ordinance to say we have five. >> Yeah, we can do whatever we want. >> We can do whatever you want or you can keep it at six and one's available.

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So, if we had to if we had to say this um as we summarize this, what would be um this would be more so to fill in maybe uh hidden gaps that we were not aware, you know, people that things could have happened that we just assumed there was an ordinance for

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and there's not. So, we're kind of filling in those kind of whatifs. What would be some of the >> whatifs that we're kind of filling in here? um cuz we're not going to organize collection, but why why introduce the additional >> um overhead, I guess. >> Well, the the city

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regulates every other um benefit to the property, right? The water sewer we are in control of. We has franchise agreements with with electric and natural gas. Um we regulate sellers of liquor and tobacco. Um the garbage

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collection folks are users of our facilities. They use all of our streets. Everybody partakes in them. And setting some level of min minimal standard um and and getting it away. You know, as we talked last time, it was a sometimes it

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is a um um um how you want to have your community. We want garbage trucks every day on our streets. It would be nice. >> Quality of life. >> Quality of life. Thank you. And um you can't do that without regulating it.

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>> You could ask nicely and say, "Geez, we'd like everybody to haul on Wednesday, but without having some regulations, do you have very little say over that?" >> That being that being one example, >> right? I know I sent Greg and I know

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it's not a perfect thing. I think I sent it to Phil and Chris and Greg, but there's one study out there that says one, >> you know, garbage trucks don't have to comply with road restrictions. And so they are hammering our roads. One study said one full garbage truck, it can be

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equivalent to between 3 and 12,000 cars daily. So think about that. on some of our streets right now. I've had residents tell me they have five companies, which means that's 10 a week. If you figure in recycling, you know, 10 a week going down that road, that's

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somewhere between 30,000 and 100,000 vehicles a week, you know. So, to me, that was the impetus behind this. And then the safety issue too with just the number of trucks. And um I know in my culde-sac I get woken up

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every time our garbage guy comes at 6:00 a.m. from the squeaky brakes. I don't know about anybody else, but not that we're going to regulate their squeaky brakes. I get that. But um I know we're not moving to full collection, but it it's amazing the people you talk to that

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have it. They're paying way less and they're dealing with one garbage truck and one recycling truck a week. So, I see this as a really good first step to at least know who's in our community. I mean, right now, I don't know if the state licenses them, but

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>> the county license haulers, >> but that doesn't necessarily mean that's operating in outside of the corporate limit. >> The county licenses them, but that doesn't mean they have Could it be somebody from outside the county? I think yeah, it could be. I think we believe at least one is in Right County

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that's not licensed at Sherburn. I I think if they if they had a a hauler that was not licensed by the county but wanted to license with us, I think that would be permitted. >> Well, there is there is one at least one hauler right now that's based in Ray County. So, >> they can be they can be based anywhere.

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>> Yeah. >> I think we we have other haulers right now from outside the county. >> Oh, for sure. >> If Jims is down here, they're Max. Um, I I look at it this way. If you want to knock on my door and try to sell me something, you have to have a peddler's permit. But we're just letting anybody

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drive any number of trucks across our street with zero oversight right now. And I don't think what's drafted here is overly oppressive by any means. >> Um, I do know the part of

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I almost think we have to by state law require recycling pickup. the county does require it for their haulers. >> I thought I read something that you have to charge more the bigger it gets. Like there has to be a disincentive, if you

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will, to creating garbage. Um, and I I >> part of part of the issue there is if you're going to require each one to do recycling, you've likely doubled the number of trucks because they'll have a separate truck. Mhm. >> The other thing you could do is organize

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recycling and contract with one hauler and the city would be in charge of that recycling only. Well, I've I've seen mixed I mean, there's enough stories out there on recycling that show that it's not

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necessarily ending up in the spots where we, you know, we all think we recycle it, it ends up being made into a new pop bottle or something. And there's enough stories out there where they drop little, you know, tracking things in them and find out that they end up in landfills half the time anyway. So, it's

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>> Yeah. different truck, same landfill. >> Yeah. So I I hate to, you know, just so we feel better, you know, let's do this. And we know the reality is a lot of the time it and it's because of the cost. >> I mean, they literally it's costing them more money to, you know, to do it. So,

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um, you get in rural areas, a lot of them, they just run one truck. You just throw all your recycling in there and, you know, um, so I guess I don't if if the state law requires it or something, then, you know, maybe you just say whatever state law says and or if state law has it, then you do. But I think

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most people are going to offer it anyway just cuz I think cons I think consumers are programmed enough to to you know well hey I want recycling. I think they'd ask for it. But I mean if somebody didn't and you know >> Yeah. I guess I don't care either if it's not state law. I I thought I read

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that somewhere. >> I don't know. >> I think it was in the league brochure that was sent out. >> Okay. I thought one of the things they said I thought it was required but maybe that's only like seven county metro or something. That kind of sounds like it might be a seven county metro thing.

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>> Yeah. Matt council put it on. >> Right. >> Yeah. It'd be a different story if it were if it really were all ending up rec you know recycled. That'd be a different story. I think it's that'd be a great idea. But if you're just going to turn around and dump it in the landfill anyway, would

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>> then you might as well do it cheaper. >> Yeah. >> You know, the other thing too that the city could do and it wouldn't be part of the ordinance is we could create something where we provide information on on pooling with your neighbors, right? If you want to go into a neighborhood contract and how you can

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make that happen as another way to just reduce the amount of traffic because that's what we're trying to do, >> right? Improve quality of life, uh, limit the amount of traffic, still giving people a choice of what they want to do. But and if they as a group want to do it, they should be encouraged to do that. >> That'll be cheaper.

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>> Mhm. >> Would that be in the ordinance or could we just do that? >> We can just do that. >> I mean, that's we could ask them when they apply for a license if you're interested like provide the information. >> No. Oh, have them do it? I'm

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>> you know some of it because we had the I asked the question of the attorney and it was kind of at the end here about >> if we're not organized fully there is going to be a limitation about what we can ask for example we we cannot ask them to publish

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the rates we might be able to ask them to publish a range um that might be one you know uh kind of a consistent cancellation policy doubtful we can do that Yeah. >> Um, so when we start getting into kind of contractually

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regulating the relationship, that's a different deal than what we're talking about doing here. >> Sure. >> And that feels kind of I don't know. That's if we're not going down the route of organized collection that kind of feels like we're kind of stepping in on

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I mean even though we'd be stepping in and what most people look at it and say that's you know it's a that's a bad deal what they're doing but we got six providers I mean pick another one >> right >> that's >> right are are they required then to

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follow Do we have anything in here about them following the solicitor's permit? >> I don't believe so. Okay. But they have to based on our other ordinances. Correct. >> Based as it currently stands now. Now, we could make them exempt from that if

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you wanted to. If we're going to allow them, >> if they're going to be a licensed, if they want to go doortodoor, you can do it either way. You could exempt them if you wanted to. Now that you have now that they are licensed group and they're not somebody just, you know, fly by

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night. >> I don't think I want to exempt them. I just want to make sure they're following that cuz what what's the penalty for not following that? >> Is there one? >> I don't know. There's probably a petty misdemeanor or something like that, but

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wonder if we could do an administrative penalty. >> $9,000. >> Dingdong. Do you have your permit? No. Write me a check. >> Yeah. >> Coming to my house. or you knock on my door without the solicitor's permit, you get free garbage for a year. >> Yeah.

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>> How's that? >> Will that pass? Check with the lawyer on that one. >> We can, you know, right now with solicitors and we've dealt >> uh we've dealt with the garbage companies doortodoor soliciting. I know I dealt with it last year with a couple

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uh from one of the the companies going door to door. So solicitor permit wise, we enforce that. And so if there are the solicitors for the garbage companies coming in violation of the solicitor ordinance, then we just issue administrative citations um andor make that contact, let them know what the

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steps are to get that um permit and then send them back to city hall uh before they can resume making contact anybody. So we do have the administrative fine process for those. >> Okay. I could go either way on this um on on that piece of it cuz if they're already licensed, if they're one of the

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six licensed in the city, if the goal of this is to reduce traffic, that's what they're trying to do, >> right? >> I mean, if and if they're, you know, if they're really pitching a better product and they're going door to door and they're successful and let's say they get 25% of the town,

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our goal has been accomplished. >> So, they're they're kind of doing our I won't say our work for us, but they they would be That would be the effect. >> But that and that it would assume that they're already one of the six or whatever. >> Correct. >> If they're not, then that's a different story, right?

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>> If if they're not, they can't come in. >> Mhm. Yeah. But if they are, then you're just trying to move you're moving the chairs around the deck. So, it's um it could, you know, if they got a screaming deal, you know, on something and they're trying to gain 25% of the town or something, then

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>> right, >> it would do that. Um, on the other hand, last year, the one that we did have was a rather aggressive. Now, in our scenario here, they would have been no because they weren't one of the six or whatever, but let's just say they were, and they send those same aggressive

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folks back. If they don't have a permit in the first place, and you got nothing to revoke. So, I guess that's >> Yep. >> Unless you revoke their license. >> I was going to say you can revoke that for any reason you want to, right? That'd be kind of dra if you have two

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aggressive say. Let's say they have 10% of the town already and they're sending out and the two people they happen to send out are two knuckleheads that are aggressive to revoke the entire town and say 10% of the city has to go find new garbage or whatever. That's a little >> Well, they can be aggressive. They just have to make sure they have their

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solicitors permit. >> Yeah. Well, yeah, that's um I guess I was saying that in response to if you revoke their entire permit over to, you know, the guy gets his kids to go out or something and they're a little too overzealous. You know, there is a there's not a revocation in here. There needs to be there needs to be a

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revocation >> provision in here >> says license can be suspended or revoked by city council >> on E. We might want to though specify what what they could have done wrong that would subject them to to

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revocation. >> Okay. >> Um I I don't >> probably most people would like this, but 7 a.m. is kind of a late start for a garbage company. >> Rather see them on the road early and get the cans off the road before people go to work. Sometimes

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>> anything can be changed. This was I just added this and that's what other cities had. So, >> and I don't know that I want to hear them at 5, but I I kind of think six is reasonable. >> Yeah, >> I don't want them on the street, you know, at at 4:00 when kids are coming home from school. I would prefer them to

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be get their business done early in the day and be gone. >> Well, I I don't know that you can say before 3, but that >> right >> would be kind of I would prefer early rather than late. I guess >> Phil or Chris could weigh in on this. That might 6 a.m. might pose a problem

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in the winter time. They may be working around town while we're trying to get roads. >> Well, they are not. I mean, they have to be now because mine's out there at the night before for pickup at 6. >> They're there at 600. >> My Yeah, my company is there at 6 a.m.

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>> Yeah. Not Not an issue. Chris, >> thanks. >> Nice. >> The wing. >> Hit it hard. I need a new can. We go through that every year with sending reminders to res. >> When is going to either be there

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overnight or they're going to be there all day? It I don't know. Is one better than the other? >> Where's our current noise ordinance say for like 6 a.m.? Isn't it? >> Is it seven? >> Seven. >> I mean, I don't know that a garbage

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truck constitutes heavy equipment, though. It's not like a road graater. I mean, can I hear it? Yeah, I can hear it, but I'm awake. >> Back up. You will get a call. >> Oh, the beep beep beep. >> Yep. That'll get people calling really quick. >> Really?

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>> Yeah. >> Yes, it will. >> I was grinding stumps two years ago at 6:30 and I my neighbor came over and yelled at me. >> It's a little early. >> It was early. >> I rented it for the day, though. I got my money out. >> A day means a day. sent it home with no

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teeth left back wherever it was. So recapping with recycling, not requiring it unless the state requires it, >> right? I mean, we have to comply with state >> it is state statute. >> Okay.

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>> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. My dad >> doesn't have to be weekly. >> No, it's be on the same >> It's bi-weekly. Well, mine is bi recycling bin in the center of the town and say that's your recycling program.

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>> Yeah. My dad tried to cancel his recycling and the garbage company threw a fit. My dad said, "Well, I'm not bringing the can out of the road." So, finally they just came and got it. >> Oh, funny. >> Yeah. So,

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>> right. What other What other direction do you need, Greg? I don't know if we have given you enough or >> um yeah, we need to add some details on the basis of revocation or suspension changing 6 a.m. start time. We'll verify the recycling. Maybe we'll just talk at

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a staff level. I see this coming back again for another discussion. It's not ready for for approval. Um you know, what do we want recycling schedule to look like? Is it is it every other week? Is it, you know, weekly? Do you reach out to the companies that we know are in town and tell them we're going to put

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this in place? >> I think that's uh the appropriate thing to do to >> give any input on what kind of agreements they might have >> when we when we have something that is more I would say ready for adoption. Then I think it's appropriate. >> Yeah.

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>> We'll try to figure out who's all here. >> And do we do we say unless you have this many clients in town, we don't watch trucks here? >> No. >> Can't do that. No, >> I think Rick's example of the doortodoor stuff, if that's what they're going to

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do eventually, they will be bought out, >> right, by one of the people already here. >> Yeah. >> Um, which is what we would we would encourage just a natural attrition of the number of companies doing it. Well, I mean, at at some point there there are

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so many trucks that have to be on the road to service everybody in town. Whether it's one company here five days a week or two companies here three days a week or whatever it is, it's going to be as many trucks as it takes. >> Are you looking for >> point >> a single day uh pickup?

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>> No, not necessarily. >> Okay, we should talk about that then. What What would you want to see there? >> Yeah, I think it's the same number of trucks, Robin, but it's it's how many trips they're making down that street, right? Yep. >> Yeah. >> And nothing we do is changing that right now. >> Yep.

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>> Just going to put them all on the same same day or same two days, whatever it is. >> Or if it's open, I mean, part of the reason for this, too, is to limit the number of days where we're impacted by garbage trucks. >> Right. So, we say we have pickup available Monday, Monday, Wednesday.

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That's all we're going to offer in our city. >> Make it work. >> Yep. I'd really like I would like to start by knowing who's here and how often they're here, >> right? >> I think that's what we're looking at. >> Wouldn't that be nice to know? >> Isn't it mostly Mondays and Tuesdays?

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>> Mine's Tuesday. >> Mine's Monday. >> That'll probably be the biggest hurdle again to one day, >> to be honest with you. >> Right. >> Well, and I don't know that I want to see them joking around each other on streets either. I mean,

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you know, and I'm in a culde-sac. I don't want to see somebody trying to get through my culde-sac, then they're going to back up as they're having to get around each other, right? >> So, yeah, I think knowing >> who they are and when they're here right now

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and and and I don't know if they'll share how many customers, how many clients they have. I mean then we then we can maybe say hey maybe we do Monday and Wednesday and we have just this company here on Tuesday or something. I don't know.

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>> Okay. Why don't we get that information? Then you'll have that data to >> decide where you want to go. >> Yeah. Honestly, I don't even remember who's not merged or on their own. >> Yeah. >> Other than what I see cuz

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>> Yeah. I mean, I have Ace. They're weekly, but recycles every other week. >> That's exactly what I have, too. >> And thank God freaking neighbors who put their cans out earlier. I'd never know what I'm recycling. >> I like Ace cuz I come at 10:30 in the

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morning so I can forget. I used I used to have the one that came at 6:01 every night. I would forget and I'd hear the try, hear the brakes backing up. I'd be jumping up out of bed and that was horrible. >> Yeah, that was 6:00. inappropriate things as I'm running down the pushing

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my cans out there. >> Although I have to say I I forgot once and they came and got my can out of my driveway and took it. >> I've had that happen too. >> Well, I think we have enough direction. >> Okay.

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>> So, Mike, we strapped it. >> Yeah. I definitely don't want to see anybody who's going to have a bag system like St. Cloud has where you >> Oh, yeah. I mean, that's >> There's a That's theirs. >> Terrific. >> Can we require receptacles? >> No. >> Is that in here? >> That is in here.

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>> That is in here. >> I thought so. Yeah, >> that's good. >> Well, and I think the haulers like it, too, cuz they don't have to get out of the truck. It's just automatic. They lift it, throw it in. It's a reduction of work comp claims on their part. accidents, dogs getting killed or

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>> how many bags you >> or I over stuff them. >> I think we're overstepping by not allowing mining waste and auto hulks though. >> That was kind of funny. >> Mining waste.

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>> Mining waste. All right, round table. >> I don't have anything. >> What's the post office update? >> You're funny. >> Well, I I sent somebody your way. >> Yeah. who was doing that school project. >> Oh, yeah. >> And she said there's something coming

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down the pipe. >> Well, they we can't announce where. >> But they like 3 days after the foyer request was filed, I got the friendly email that said, "Wow, we we can just

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work together. We're we don't really need to do this. Uh and we're negotiating on a piece of property right now. And I'm like, are they though? >> Cool. Yeah, they are. I can verify that. I'm like, that's cool. When are you

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going to have the foyer request done? >> We're not I think that kind of pushed them. So, they they have made an offer on a piece of property. Wouldn't be hard to guess if you just

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drove around town and looked to see what signs are up. Property for sale. Um, there's not a lot of them as you can probably imagine. Um, but they're >> they I thought they didn't buy property, >> right? >> I thought they only

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>> Yeah. >> Yeah. You tell me. >> Oh, they're lying. >> No, I don't think they're lying. I I am very confident they are have made an offer on a piece of property. Um he said their plan would be to locate delivery

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and retail. Um but it can take them >> six years >> six to nine months to get >> because if they buy the property that's temporary funding because the post office could buy the property and then

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not get the funding to build something. So I don't want to get anybody's hopes up. Like I pushed them and said if you're buying the property like we're going to streamline stuff. let's get this done so you can start building. And they're like, whoa, >> could take us nine months to get the

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funding to build. So, I I I'm very like happy this is happening. And I it is legitimate. Um but we don't have a signed contract, so they won't they said if if they get a signed contract, then they will announce to the public

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um what their intentions are. You realize by the time they build this thing, they're going to be calling it the Mark Colinger Memorial Post on >> I will likely be six feet under. There's no doubt about that. Um,

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but I I think the foyer request was a game changer. They've been stalling way too long to that was too much of a coincidence for me. >> I don't really believe in coincidences. So, um hopefully like at some point here

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soon they will make that announcement. Um I had a guy contact me last Friday said he drove him on a cell to pick up his packages and the lady was going on break and the postmaster couldn't help him during that break.

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>> Mhm. >> And um that was true. That's like a union rule. So he drove all the way there and then had to wait 15 minutes. And they were short staffed that day, but they're a larger post office. So I found out in the size of Becker, they would be able to cover because there's

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some kind of a threshold with with how many people are there. But their current intention is to bring operations back here as well, which I think is good. And now we just got to wait for the for them to accept the real estate

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agreement. So they're buying brownfield real estate, green field real estate that they're going to put a building on. Is that the idea? Would they be >> Yeah. So they have to do a full build. >> Yep. >> Not a remodel. >> Correct. >> Okay. >> Yep. >> Potentially >> their plan if they if it goes through is

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they would build and own the facility. >> Interesting. >> That's maybe as far that way as you can go in the town. So that's what I know. >> I don't care where it is. >> I want it on this side of the tracks and

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>> Yeah, you do. It's in Monosella right now. >> Yeah, I mean true. I want it in Becker. So, >> so yeah, I will definitely things are looking more promising than they have for

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the last 16 months. But >> believe it when we see it. >> Yeah. >> In my heart, I want to believe they're not so terrible that they would buy land and then not do it, but that's their process. >> Amazon.

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>> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, boy. Sorry. >> So, >> okay. >> But I think staff is very ready if if if they do follow through on the purchase and reach out because that was my question. I said, "Why are you buying

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something before you even know, right, >> if we would permit it and have that be an allowable use?" >> Yeah. >> They're like, "Well, this is our process, >> you know." So, >> cuz if we want it bad enough, we'll figure it out. >> We'll figure it out, right? >> Yes. Yeah.

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>> Yeah. >> In the middle of a development, >> right? >> Okay. >> In front of your house, >> right? Like, >> so, but >> yeah. So, I just told them we're ready and willing and we will move as fast as

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we can expeditiously to review their plans and so hopefully it happens. Okay. Does anybody else hear that noise behind us? >> Behind us? >> Sounds like a drum beat every couple

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minute or couple >> like that. >> Behind us, right? >> I hear it. >> It's over there. Oh, it might be echoing. What is it? >> Oh, thank you. Not losing my mind. >> Smelling burnt toast.

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>> I heard nothing. >> Yeah. Oh, the voices in my head are too loud. >> See, might I hear it behind me, but >> yeah, >> I never heard it before the construction, so I was just curious.

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>> Yeah. >> Is someone in the safe room? >> All right. Got one thing. >> Yes. Um, >> something more to where to think about and have future discussions. So

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data center um so there was a city council down in southern Minnesota I believe the entire they were looking at building a data center down there uh the entire council lost their reelection I don't know somehow they had it where

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they were all up or four of the five or something like that were up um they they had that and then seeing you know how many people are showing up in like Monaceel and it you So when it was the Lakeville sit or Farmington situation, I mean theirs was a diff it was kind of a unique bird and it was

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kind of a you know I can you know they were in a different set of circumstances as everybody else. Um I would really I would really like to know other than the people I talk to I

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guess I'd really like to know the pulse of the community. um where they where people are really not just a few vocal folks like it on Facebook or a few people that contact. >> I was just gonna tell you um you just post on Facebook, you'll find out. >> Well, that's um it's got to be true then.

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>> So, um but I would really um >> you know, I mean, we we've put a lot of staff time, a lot of money into it over the years. Um, I would really like to know um that you know I mean if I mean I I I

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I'm I'm in favor. I could sit and you know describe it technically. I think you know I think it could be done safely. It's not, you know, every one of the objections, I mean, the a lot of the environmental movements are behind a lot of this and it's, you know, they have different motives and I think than most of the people that probably have, you

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know, the objections are not the same. But it, um, but at the end of the day, I really want to know that this is something the community does embrace. if it's not I don't you know I don't want to be doing something that 70% of the community is against

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you know um and I don't know I don't want to I think if you don't get out ahead of this and if you don't have your um you know you almost have to do a PR campaign in a sense I mean it's a and not necessarily a PR in the sense that

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you're trying to put lipstick on a pig but more of a you want to get out in front of you know with the facts as opposed to you know this is why we think this is a good idea this is why folks support this. Um because I think it's there, you know, I think it's a story that can be told. I think it can be done

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safely. I I I agree with it, but I just I just it seems like some of these communities really get caught where they maybe forge ahead and they don't understand the headwinds that are against them and they don't, you know, necessarily maybe they, you know, there's less support in the community than maybe they

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think they have. So, I really wanna um not that I want to start a really long lengthy discussion. I kind of want to tee this up for um for everybody is I really want us to be ahead of that. You know, if we do get, you know, knowing that the say the Microsoft project is,

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you know, I mean, that could flare up at any minute, but I mean, as of right now, we look at it and say, well, it may be a little bit yet, but before that all starts getting hot, I'd like to um be on the forefront of that, I guess. >> Yeah. So I would say like what I've run

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into when I made the Facebook post about testifying at the state and it just wasn't about data centers. It's any large electrical user and you know I heard things like you're supposed to be working on the post office now you're trying to sneak a data center in. I'm

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like well that predates me by you know seven years. But part of the issue I see is non-residents I think is a big issue. You know we've all heard of taxation. No taxation without representation. I reverse that and say no representation without taxation. I mean, if if you live

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3 miles out in the township, >> I don't have time. >> I'm sorry. I mean, I like you as a community member and everything, but it's not going to affect your it's not paying 68% of your tax bill, >> right? So, that I see is a big thing.

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>> Um, what I've told So, I went what I did is I went through Facebook and looked at the negative comments and I reached out to some people. Um, so that Saturday I reached out to one lady and said, "I can be at your house at 2:00. Bring all your neighbors." Eight people showed up. And I sat there for two hours and asked

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questions or let them ask questions. And I told them, "It's really hard. You know, they're like, you're going to use all our water." And I'm like, "Well, you know, first of all, we don't know what the proposal is. We don't have a proposal." And that's the hard part because there there can be anybody from

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waterless technology to some data centers that use a ton. And I said, I'm not coming here to tell you all data centers are great or good cuz I think those people are full of crap. But if you're someone that tells me all data centers are bad, I think you're equally

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as full of crap because that there's such a wide range of water use. There's such a wide range of, you know, noise. there's such a wide range of electrical use and what they pay for. >> Mhm.

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>> Um, so I don't disagree, but I think it's really hard to have a general discussion cuz after we talked about all the scenarios and this woman had been pretty I don't want to say belligerent, but pretty close to it. And she goes, "Well,

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I guess I got my undies in a bunch for nothing." >> And I said, "Well, I'm glad I could answer your questions." And I told him straight out, I'm not trying to change your mind. But I said, is we have to do our fiduciary responsibility as elected officials to look right. We could have a

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data center proposal that comes in and we all look at it and go, "Absolutely not. I don't like the way they're going to do this, this, and this." >> Right? I think there's a big difference between a company coming in and making a long-term commitment to our community that they're going to own it for a long

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time um versus someone that's going to build it on spec and try to rent it out to other people because that they're simply a landlord at that point, right? And they might not have the same commitment. Um so I agree with what you're saying, Rick, but I think it's

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really hard um because we don't have a proposal. So, anything we'd be talking about is a complete um unknown. It's right. We we would be guessing, well, how much water could it

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use? Well, between zero and 1.5 million gallons a day or something. >> I mean, there's such a big difference that I don't I don't know at this point how to, you know, do the difference other than to say once we have a proposal, we're

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going to look at all those things. we would look at the effects on water. We know we don't have a ton of water. I mean, we're we're going to talk about a water plant pretty soon. So, I I agree with your sentiments, but I don't know how to have those conversations.

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Um I know I'm not going to have them on Facebook because everybody's really brave >> and then you go sit at their kitchen table and they're like, >> you know, the one guy, oh, I'm really sorry I called for you to be voted out. I Well, that's fine. You don't even know if I'm running again. Yeah, >> but I said the things that you said just

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could be factually true or they could be factually 100% false. Well, you know, I just worry about what I see in other communities, right? And people have sent me, you know, videos. Well, look at look at the noise pollution from

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this and literally you're 50 feet away from the data center. Well, I probably wouldn't want one 50 ft behind my house either, but we have such a unique location, right? >> Highway 10, the tracks. >> Highway 10, the tracks. >> At this point, I've heard more people who were disappointed when the Amazon

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project fell apart >> than I I guess I don't even recall one single person coming up to me and saying, "I don't want a data center." Well, the funny part is I knocked on a lot of doors during the campaign, like hundreds.

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And I got one email in the first 14 months that after I was elected, knocked on hundreds of doors, never heard the term data center. First 14 months, I got one email from a woman who said, "If you lived as close to this proposed one as I

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do, you'd be against it." And I went on Beacon on Sherburn County, and I'm like, "I actually live 150 feet closer than you do." >> Um, and I I'm not concerned, but we would have things in place, right? >> Um I know staff fielded one call this

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week and they pointed to the AUR. There is a ton of stuff in that almost 400page document. We've done the work, right? It's a permitted use currently. So, >> I mean, I agree. I I just think it's really hard to determine what's really

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local. So, I agree with you like what do the people here actually want? But um the fact that it's in a business district makes a huge difference I think to people. Yeah. I don't want it by a lake on the side of the road or you

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know, you know, in a heavily populated area, but where it would be located here. It just doesn't draw very much attention >> so far. No, >> that that could change. And I think there will be anything right right now environmentally

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there's organized opposition. Um after that I don't know if I've mentioned it to council but I convened a a round table of local realtors. So I invited 10 three of them I think were couldn't make it and I just kind of tried to pick different companies. Some of the people

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I knew some of the people I don't. Um, they said in their mind, these are professional realtors, many with decades of experience. They said the biggest threat they see is not replacing Sheros's tax base. >> Mhm.

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>> Um, they used to hear from people, I have to be in Becker because it's lower taxes. That's not true anymore. >> It's comparable. They used to hear, I have to be in the Becker school district. They're not hearing that anymore. is these are what the professional realtors are telling me.

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They said they have had documented cases where they've had to discount homes located right next to a solar array because people are not wanting to live right next to a solar farm. So when you're talking the professionals that you know I hear a lot about it's

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going to kill our tax base, it's going to lower our property values. They said the same thing about Shero in the 1970s and what did that do to everybody's tax value? >> Skyrocketed. So I feel like we have a lot of defensible positions we've looked at. We have some

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comparables from other places where they've built data centers responsibly, not in the middle of a town. and it's not holding true that it's ruining people's home values. >> Um, and if the realtors are telling me

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that, I think that's a plus as well. >> Agreed. >> I don't know if there's a way we can. I'm all for gathering that input. I'm all for not having 300 people, many of which aren't our residents, getting into an auditorium somewhere.

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>> You know, to call me an idiot. You can do that in a group of eight easier, you know, with specifics. I've I've done a lot of research on it. My biggest concern is the noise piece. The water doesn't scare me at all. I think large users of water, they're

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they're going to go out of business. That's just not the new technology. >> If you want a data center and you don't want to pay more for your electricity, you should build it in Minnesota because they have tariffs and they have a state law saying those companies can't charge us. You can build it across the border

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in North Dakota, South Dakota, or Wisconsin, and those companies can charge everybody on the MYO grid more. So, I'm not saying the tariffs are a good or a bad thing, but consumers in Minnesota are protected from the spikes in electrical, you know, increases

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versus other states aren't. But, >> well, if anybody reaches out, I'll send them your way because that's more than I know. >> Well, they can show up at I'll have a round table coming up next month again and

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I I'm willing to have a conversation with anybody that's willing, like I said, if you think they're all good or all bad, I think you're wrong. And that that could be anything. Could be a garbage company, >> right? Could be a home builder. I mean, they're all different, have different

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things. So, but maybe there's a way once we get that proposal. That's the other thing. I mean, they would have to go through a lot of state permitting and we would obviously have meetings and there would be >> input, but we're not trying to reszone

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land. Everyone I've watched that has fallen into that trap, Monaceel is trying to reszone land. We don't need to reszone. >> Right. Right. >> Right. That's Yeah. >> But that's good discussion to have.

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Anything else? I >> got nothing. >> All right, let's adjourn at 6:34. Thanks everybody. >> Oh, everybody to my house to finish lawn work. >> I'll do yours if you didn't mind. I got to go back to work work. Oh,

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