If fable, please join me in standing for the pledge of allegiance. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all. All right. Thank you to everybody for being here tonight. First order of business is to look at the regular council meeting and executive session minutes from June 3rd.
Does anybody have any corrections? If not, we would entertain a motion to approve both of those sets of minutes. Make a motion to approve the minutes as uh presented. I'll second. Can't.
You have to abstain. Yes. That's right. It was just you weren't here. I'll second that. Thanks, Mike. So, we have a motion by Rick and a second by Mike uh for the minutes to be approved. Any discussion?
If not, all in favor, please state I. I. Anyone opposed, state no. And Becky and Robin are going to abstain. All right, those minutes are carried. Is there any changes to the agenda? If not, I would entertain a motion to approve tonight's
agenda. I'll make that motion. I'll second. We have a motion by Robin, second by Rick to approve the agenda as printed. Any discussion? Hearing none. All in favor, please state I. Anyone opposed, state no. And the agenda is approved.
Number six, guests in open forum. We'll go to letter A. Tonight, we're going to recognize two state championship teams. So, in the past month or so, we've had the Becker High School robotics team and the Becker High School boys track team
win state titles. So, I'd like to invite the robotics coach up to the microphone if he wants to give us a quick one minute spiel. You bet. Right there. Uh, let us know about your team's state championship. This is the fourth state
championship I believe your team has won in the past 12 years. Yeah. Um fortunately we've had a a good run for the last number of years. We missed in 2015 for qualifying for the state championship and uh over the course of
those 12 years um four state championships, a second place, a third place, and a few fourth places. So this year was uh really different for us. We graduated a lot of students last year um in 2024. So, we had a group of new students that came in and wanted to
prove for themselves uh that they could continue on this tradition. I what I do have I do have Zack uh Hankmire here and he's representing the team. He wants to give a couple words here. So, awesome. Thanks, Zach. Welcome. Yep. We started
this year off and I graduated a lot of seniors last year and weren't sure how it was going to go this year, but we pulled it together and starting with in January we had kickoff where it revealed the game that we were going to compete in this year. And then we had six weeks
of build season where we put in long hours and worked hard and uh we got a robot put together and our first competition in Duth in week one. We didn't quite compete as well as we were hoping but and we but we did win the
impact award which is the most at the regional we won the impact award which is the most prestigious award in first which qualified us for worlds and then in the next 3 weeks we worked hard to improve our robot so that at our week
four regional ino we placed second overall and were captain the second alliance and we were finalists at the regional, but we lost to the number one alliance, so we got second place. And then at our home regional of Granite
City, we were not a captain of an alliance, but we got picked by the first alliance and we got like fourth place, I think, overall. And then we competed in Houston at Worlds, first championship.
And we were picked I think first by we're first pick of like the third alliance. So we competed well and uh then we got went to state and it was a hard competition with the other finalists but we eventually won the
third finals match which made us state champions this year. And it was a good season. We worked hard and we won state. All right. Congratulations. Thanks, Zach. Congrats. That's wonderful. Coach Urick, we have a proclamation here. Um,
June 17th being proclaimed as championship Tuesday in the city of Becker. So, congratulations. All right. Thank you to our wonderful robotics team and our boys track and field team. Coach
Wiggy, Coach Schmidt said if he wasn't back yet, he's he's on his way, but uh if you want to kind of step up there and just give us a little I think this was just last week, so it's still pretty fresh. uh the end of last week claiming the uh state title for boys track and
field. We've had an incredible season uh with uh great student athletes uh throughout the season as well working you know in in the 18 different events for boys, 18 different events for girls. Um competing at each level, competing in in each of
those in order to score. Um this year for the first time in Becker history um both I'm sorry I take that back. Uh there was in 97 both boys and girls did qualify for the
state true team uh meet uh and placed in that this year. Uh we had our highest ever place for the boys team as the boys team were state runner-ups for that competition. True team works out where every individual
gets to score for that uh event or for each of the events that they are in. So, you enter two two uh athletes for each event and they all score. Hang on one second. Coach Smid is locked out apparently. Perfect. I guess Mr. Coach
Wiggy really wanted to talk cuz he came in and locked the doors behind him, right? That's a dirty move, but it's pretty effective when you can't get in the door. So, veteran move. That is veteran move right there. All right. Sorry to interrupt. No, it's
great. Um we're super proud of the the team for their accomplishments throughout the season. Uh going into the state meet um we had already or the the team had already broken I think uh eight
school records throughout the season. When it came to the state meet uh we ended up with 12 season record or uh 12 school records broken throughout the season. So, out of 36, we broke a third of those uh throughout the season. We
had incredible support from community uh including uh getting a new record board this season as well that is now hung up in the fieldhouse. It's uh we have to do a little bit of updating with that. But it was awesome having um Hurricane Industries and Angels Construction um
donating some supplies for that as well as uh working to uh recognize our student athletes with that as well. Well, it was it's been a fun addition. We've had uh fantastic volunteer coaches as well as uh coaching staff. Um we're certainly going to miss our graduates as
they venture off to new new realms um and continue to compete. But at this time, I guess I will uh pass it over to Come on up to give a little state meet rundown. Coach Wiggy locked you out so he could get the uh spotlight there. God, you know, I guess that's what you get for
being late, right? Um I don't know. Did you what did we talk about the state meet? Maybe you just want to recap. Sure. I'll try to recap it as best we can. Um you know, even going back to the beginning of this uh school year, we the state meet is kind of an interesting
meet because you can win the Minnesota State High School League meet with a couple kids. Um the way it's set up, that's why we have our true team meet, which we also made it to and participated in this year, uh and end up taking second place as a as a team in the true team meet. But the uh Minnesota
State High School League is so anyone who makes it to the state meet then uh competes obviously for their individual awards and and and events, but they also get thrown in as a team. So um I've seen teams win it with just one or two people
and we had a few more than that to do it even though majority of our points came from our two seniors uh this year. Um so going into day one uh Owen Angel um participated his his final in the pole
vault was our first day. Uh so when we went into that meet uh Owen had placed second the last two years um in the pole vault. So it was it was pretty fitting that he ended up winning the pault this year and became the pvault champion um for the state of Minnesota in class
doubleA. Uh we also the rest of that day kind of went as planned because um we were hoping to move as many as we could on to the finals for the next day which we were able to accomplish. Uh Carter Reckleberg moved on to the finals in the 100 uh and the 200. Our 4x200 team moved
on to the finals. Um we knew that uh Owen had a good shot at moving on in the hurdles which he did in the 110s. Uh he wasn't able to make it in the 300s. Parker Spindler was another runner of ours in the 3200 that um made it to state but wasn't able to move or that was a final and he ended up placing I
think 17th out of out of the field. Um and then our 4x4 team also ran that day and um it was a long shot to see if we were going to make it. We just missed making finals by about a second second and a half in that race as well. Did I miss anybody in that one? I think I got
everybody for the prelims. trying to do this all just from the memory which was a blur for a little bit. Uh when we went into our final day um we were sitting with 12 points. Owen had uh won the pole vault which is uh you win that event you
get 12 points as a team. So as we as we competed that day um our 4x8 team which was the final event that day uh we were we had just missed there were two heats of the 4x8. So there was a slow heat a fast heat. We ended up just missing that
fast heat which was a goal of ours uh by 200th of a second and ended up in that slow heat which we kind of spun around as a positive because we always tell our kids if you go out and win that slow heat there's a good chance that you're going to place in the meets and um by no
means was that a slow heat. We ran our fastest time we've ever run. We broke a school record by 3 seconds in that event. Uh running an 807 um was a fantastic feat for us. Uh it was good enough in that heat to place us sixth
overall. Um which was a really good start for us uh and a great accomplishment for those four runners uh that ran for us in that that was Tanner Felton, Brandt Hemlgarn, and Evan Hubard and Parker Spindler. So it was a great great um showing for them. Uh kind of
also set the tone for the day for us. uh Cart or yeah, Carter Reckleberg was next in the 100 and uh ended up placing second in the 100. Um and Carter had his events came so fast. Uh Carter's the two-time defending state champion in the
long jump and um that's his always been his kind of his baby so-called to speak for the track and field. It's his event. Uh he's unbelievable in that event. So, um, he wasn't able to get his runthroughs in because the state high school league makes you go up and stand
for the pictures. So, he had to go up and stand for the pictures. He he did that. Uh, and then, of course, we had the 4x200 team that was also in it, and he is the anchor on that. He had to turn right around and go right to that race, too. So, um, Carter just didn't get a
chance to really even warm up for the for the long jump. Not that he wasn't warmed up because he just finished those two races. He was able to anchor a 4x2 team to a second place championship and that was along with Owen Angel Carter and then two sophomores Tarver and
Jealous and Isaiah Ber. That was our our lineup that we ran. Uh that was only the fourth time we'd run that race as a team too. So to play second in the state with that team was pretty incredible, breaking again a school record that we had broken two or three previous times.
Um Carter then proceeded to go over at that point. Our team has 40 points and we're thinking I I told a few of the coaches um that we were going to end with 64 points. I said Carter's going to win the long jump. He's going to win the 200. Well, the premonition came right
because he did. He uh he leaped 24 ft 1 and 3/4 in in the long jump to win the long jump. Uh setting a new state record in class AA. Um and then he turned around and we knew that it was going to
come down to the 200. Um Alexandria, Monaceel, and Becker had been competing for this all day. And at that point before the 200 um Alexandria was in the lead with 56 points. Monaceel and Becker
were tied with 52. So if Carter wins it, we get 12 um and go to 64 points. But Alexandria also had a had a athlete running in that that was ranked pretty high, too. So, we knew that he had to place fourth or lower in order for us to have a state championship. If he would
have placed third, um we would have shared the title with Alexander, but he ended up fifth in that race and we ended up winning the state championship. So, that's kind of how it all came to be. It was an exciting day. uh kind of amazing, you know, where that moment uh and I
I've told a lot of people, you never want to cheer against a kid, but at the same time, we were just watching that Alexandria name come up there, just hoping that it was a little lower than than what they were hoping for. And uh and it worked out in in our favor. So, um we had a great celebration coming
back. Uh really fun to have the the escort coming into town and the people that joined us uh but the at the fieldhouse uh to celebrate Becker's uh first ever state championship in track and field. So great. There we go. Awesome. Congratulations very much.
Yeah. Thanks Mark for inviting us to come and just share that with you. Have a little proclamation here. We proclaimed this championship Tuesday in Becker. So here we go. Awesome. Go. Congratulations. All right. Thank you to both teams and
coaches for for coming to be recognized. It's a great source of community pride and that's a wonderful thing and we certainly invite you to stick around for the rest of our ordinances and things like that. But we will not be offended if you leave cuz we know you're all busy
people. And if you don't want to, I can take a picture of you all with the mayor right now if you'd like. Oh, yeah. Let's get everybody up here. The council. Yeah. Come on up. Oh, just want to gather up front real quick. All right. Tony's got a shot. Come on over, folks.
Yeah. Right in front here will work. Oh, they're not going to see us anyway. I know, right? Ah, this is awesome. These guys are super short. These guys are too tall. That's awesome. Stand up, Becky. I'm so short.
Not a boy. Wiggy. Here's just a regular one. You know, maybe we can do one. We all be like, "Yeah." Or something. [Laughter] Love it. Thanks, Tony. I was like, thank you. Congratulations.
Thank you. All right. Happy birthday, Emma. All right. Congrats again. Thank you very much. What do you do every year? Is there anybody else here tonight that would like to address the city council?
Of course not. We lock the doors. All right, we'll move on to number seven, committee reports, then personnel. Personnel, you want me to grab that? Sure. Um, we met back on June 6th. Um, we just kind of just did some quick
updates on paid leave and just kind of was starting to just start with some budget assumptions. And that's really pretty much it. So, it's simple now, but it'll get busy in a couple weeks. Yeah, Shannon and Greg have their work cut out to figure out all the leave stuff. So,
paid leave. Let us know when you're done with that. Yeah. All right. Any questions for personnel? Wonderful. Public works. Sure. Okay. So, we just met on June 11th. Um, we had a couple things. We had
some change order items. We ended up having to fix a hydrant replacement on Woodland Court when they were redoing those corners right there. I don't know if you guys saw that they noticed that the one hydrant needed to be replaced. Um, learned some things about the rail
railroad quiet zones in Becker. So, you have to get an affirmation every 5 years for it. And so, we were due. Um, so basically, and I might be wrong on this, Chris, correct me if I'm wrong, but really what we need to do is just
there's some fading on the crossing signs that need to get repainted. And that was about it, right? The median's got to be the median. Yeah, we got we got to replace some signs. We got to redo the striping cuz it's faded. And then Well, the median's kind of like it
hasn't really been if you so choose to Oh, lordy, Chris. Sorry. Sorry. Yes. So, the three items that were addressed when the DOT person came and inspected because somebody complained
that they weren't being quiet in the quiet zone, so he came and checked it out. Um, yeah, so the markings at those crossings are faded, so they need to be repainted. Um, that is part of the change order tonight for your consideration. Uh, there's, uh, one of the medians, the median at Liberty is
not long enough. It's 2 ft short and then the median at Hancock is 2 in short in some spots. So, and then there's a couple of signs that aren't as big as they're supposed to be. They've been fine till now, but now they're not as big as they're supposed to be. So, uh
we'll we'll do the signs inhouse with staff and then the medians will take up with our engineerings and figure out costs and those kind of things and that'll be something we address later. So, we'll bring that information back to that inspector and let him know where we're at and see what his thoughts are
from there. So, right. Sounds like the whistleblower is going to cost us some money. Mhm. Well, more importantly, we don't want to lose those quiet zones. No, true. Got to stay up to date. Um, of course, I don't know if you guys remember last time I kind of talked
about the compost site discussion and how we've already blown through our score funding. Um, basically it's just we're in the talks of what we can do because obviously we are not the only city that is having these issues. Um, we have thought of
things to change and just to be able because the problem is is obviously we have a lot of illegal dumping going on that we need to address. Um, there's been some cards that have been taken away this year. Um, even from the conversation of maybe just going to a grass leaves and like an organic garden
material situation and not being able to drop off the big huge trees. Um, do you have anything on that about that? Yeah, that's going to just be an ongoing discussion. Um, we talked about how recycle day was great. It was very
successful and I don't know if you guys any of you went to it, but there was kind of just they surveyed the cars that were coming through to see if it would be an issue to do it during a week night versus a weekend. And it was kind of there wasn't any major like I don't
think people had an issue with it just as long as we stay open a little bit later just because obviously this is a huge commuter town and get people in time to be here. So that we'll discuss obviously next year come to it and that's about it. Okay. Thank you. Any questions for public works?
Fireboard. Fireboard. We met last night. Um we had our annual presentation of presentation of the annual audit. Um and that was from the auditors uh Schlenner Wy. Um no uh no deficiencies or um major
issues were uh um presented there. It was it was a clean clean audit. Um we uh had uh Greg presented the um the paracost analysis and that's for the fire relief. Um so is the analysis there
and that's potentially going to be um there's potentially going to be a switch in the administrator on that. So um but also just that um that level of where um where to be at. So we did have a recommendation and that was 5300.
Okay. So, so 5,300 um is and so it's kind of we got to make sure the cart gets before the horse. So, they technically have to ask for it. Um and then um then there'll be something presented to us at our joint meeting in July when we uh um meet as the two
entities for the fireboard. Um I think it's currently at 5,000 right now, but the analysis had showed that we could that it could the the move to 5,300 would not um there would be extremely low low risk in that. So um uh final
thing was uh we had started a budget discussion hoped to we hoped to complete that last night. Um we need better data. I guess that's the maybe the best way to put it. And so and also we are up against the clock. Um town board had their uh meeting at 7 last night. So we
had to uh cut off at 6:50. Um so we are going to have a another meeting because of course we need to have a budget ready for us to all talk about in a month. So, um, and just with schedules and everything, uh, we we're going to have that next Monday. Is it 5 or 5:30? 5:00.
Next Monday will be a, uh, special meeting to, um, discuss further the budget um for, uh, for next year. And, and we we also had some discussion, I don't know if we'll have activity on it next Monday, but we talked about a fund balance policy as well. M um so it's
something that we have here at the city where we um you know as the city your main source of revenue comes in twice a year when the two times a year when everybody pays their property taxes and so um of course if you you know think of your own personal finances if you didn't get paid until July you know if you got
paid in December and then didn't get paid again until July you'd have to carry over quite a bit to cover that and so we have a policy here um that's been developed where we'll um carry over a certain amount to cover that but we of course don't want to be sitting on, you know, masses amounts of money either. So, we have a policy that says that we
only let it to grow to certain percentage. And so, um, talking about that, uh, at the fireboard level as well. And, um, that discussion whether it comes out in the form of a formal policy or not could, um, uh, have an impact on the budget, uh, discussion for
this year. So, uh, more to come on that. And that was that was Firebird. All right. Thank you. Any questions for Firebard? Okay. No parking Rex. So, we're moving on to the police city hall project update. Mr. Larude, uh, they're painting
walls today. Uh, yeah, over here. Uh, Jacob can attest to that. Um, carpeting, uh, the ceiling grid, uh, mechanical will all be starting to be hooked up, still looking for before the 4th. It'll be done um, and occupied. And then we'll switch over to the outside
parking lots. That that mill work will be the first part. That'll be second or third week in July that will start and we'll go from there. All right. Any questions for Greg? All right. We'll move on then to number eight,
board committee and consultant reports. I guess uh Mr. Sanders is going to come up here and paint a picture for us of what we're doing. Could you kind of let us see what the walls are painted?
It won't m It won't be the same color. I'll never live this one down. Anyway, thank thank you, Mayor Council. I can attest the color is nice. Looks good on the walls. I wouldn't recommend using it on your
pants though. So, it's up by um so I'll turn the time over here to Mike. But, um at the last I'll give a brief update and then I'll kind of wrap up after Mike is done. At the last city council meeting, we had the unified development ordinance brought for review and adoption. Uh, one of the things that
statute requires, it's a little bit of a weird nuance in there, but they do it because if um, in the case of a residential property getting whether it's a portion or all of it zoned to some commercial, then you have to have a 2/3 majority adopt that ordinance. And
in this case, we have a few properties that are currently are one that will still be able to be used for that purpose, but they're getting their underlying zoning is changing to mixed use. So because of that, um, the ordinance adoption was tabled to this evening. So, uh, Mike gave a little bit
of a rundown last time. He'll kind of do the same here, but I we actually have the slides up on screen this time, so he'll run through those and, um, answer any questions and then I'll wrap up at the end. All right, sounds good. Thank you, Jacob. Thanks, Jacob. Uh, Michael Lamb
with the uh, MSA consulting team and good to see everybody tonight. I'm going to stay on the championship theme. I think this is your zoning and subdivision championship night and I think you've got a chance to go to be number one here. I'm I'm I'm very
confident of that. Um and just a detail this photo of Tatown was in our original interview. So we've used that as the slide slide holder since 2023. So little side note there. Um let's talk a little
bit about goals and objectives. mainly the idea of trying to keep and by state mandate um having our zoning your zoning code aligned with the comprehensive plan and the the policies and the directions in the comprehensive plan. That was one of the main things we're focused on with
the uh update. Obviously, we're trying to simplify things. Uh we reduced quite a number of of pages out of the original code itself, chapter 11, which is going to go away. um try to get to more uh
common and uh plain English language in there communicating with numbers, graphics and uh words trying to make standards a little more flexible and then obviously update um state um state code uh legislation and also free speech
uh updates from the US Supreme Court. Um I won't dwell on this and so this is a misnomer. It's I'm calling this chapter 11 UDO, but it's not. It's going to be just the UDO. But what we did is we divided uh the subdivision and the
zoning codes into five articles which will make up the uh or four articles which will make up the unified development ordinance. Article one zoning, two is signs, three is subdivision regs, four is definitions. We pulled definitions from all the code
sections and put them in one uh central location and then staff updated the the map as well to to uh result in a unified development ordinance. Uh I won't go into detail on this, but you can see August May and August we kind of really
got into this in 2023. um had a different council then as we than we do tonight. But uh nonetheless uh our plan commission which was our advisory group really uh carried the day and spent a lot of time with this. Um so
we appreciate their uh uh focus on that public open houses throughout the uh throughout the the u planning period as well as recent ones in March of this year. Um, you can kind of see here just a quick comparison between the existing districts on the left and proposed
districts on the right. We reorganized a lot of the residential districts as uh Jacob was making a reference to um added some commercial districts that are more mixeduse in nature. And in in the case of Tatown, which was a technically a
zoning district, we've made that a very compact mixeduse town center district. reduced the number of industrial districts from three to two. Um we've migrated public and quasi public uses into an institutional district and then
wild and then there are some others there including uh plan unit development that basically are are staying as they are for the most part. Uh just an example the urban standards we call this a two-page spread. There's a table that has most of the quantifiable data that's
required for lot development, dimensional standards, those kinds of things, setbacks, yards, um, dot dot dot. And then we also illustrated each one of those districts as well, so you can easily see uh what the standards are applying to or what they're talking
about. Uh we also combined and consolidated all the uses that are allowed in all the districts into one table. So if you need to find out what is allowed, you go to this run table. Boom, there it is. And that's uh coded
by uh permitted, accessory, conditional use, interim use, and then um blank is not permitted in that particular district. There's there's five pages of that. um uh five pages of that table and that was
just an example of of one of the pages. We illustrated the signs a little more clearly so people could understand exactly where they apply on particular buildings or sites uh in in the case of u dimensional standards. We've uh we did
some analysis to try and understand lot size relative to sign size and um it there's a lot of similarities to what your old code was but uh kind of updated that with graphics as well. Subdivision regs use some uh graphic language there
to help people understand layout dimensions uh depth and length of subdivisions and lots and blocks as well. Um, and again, I won't get into this, but obviously, um, definitions, I don't
know, there's probably, I do remember, 20 pages, 21, 21 pages of definitions that if they do change, and they do change, we had to add some definitions from from uh, state statutes into the code. uh things change, you know, we've
got uh the whole cannabis uh side of the world. We've added those definitions in here. So, it'll be easy to kind of update this as you go forward in in the future in article 4. And then the existing versus proposed zoning map.
We've kind of worked with staff on getting a little more um u saturated pallet here, if you will, a little easier on the eyes. So, um, and I think with that, uh, in general, we looked at,
uh, a a variety of different, uh, updates throughout, uh, the code and the subdivision, including the district's language, parkland dedication, some subdivision arrangement standards. On the residential side, you'll see, and
you guys have talked about this in the past about res residential driveway standards and where parking can go and size of parking. I think you guys end up on 8ft trailers in the sideyard. Utility in the front. Yeah. Yeah. Utility in front. Yeah. Only. So anyway,
there's, you know, some things that were addressed there for residents. Uh updated fencing regulations. And on the business side, more flexible regulations for Mcuse district, the Tatown signs, and then some updated performance standards as well. Um, I think we I
don't know if we need to go through this. We're not in June 3rd anymore. We're June 17th. Uh, and I think with that, I'll turn it unless there's any questions by anyone, I'll turn it back over to Jacob. Anybody have any questions for Mike?
All right. Thanks for all your work on this. You're welcome. Thanks, Mike. Just want to say MSA and Mike did a really good job of taking us through this and kind of sticking in there a little bit longer than we anticipated, but I think the time was
well spent to try and get it right. Um, no zoning ordinance is perfect. If there was, then we'd all be out of a job any No, we there's no zoning or it's perfect. Everybody community has some different things and they you know as Mike mentioned statutes change and
things change. However, um there's been a lot of time and effort put into this by planning commission lots of long meetings and lots of hours over the past two years council also some workshops that took a while a lot of staff from Austin to Kin and many others and just
collaboration across the board. So this was a really big group effort to get this done. Um and I think it'll pay dividends for the city. I really do. I think it's made some things more simple. Hopefully, it's clarified some things for some people. And as the as we push some things out should this get adopted
tonight. Um, we'll communicate a lot of those things, I think it'll make it a little easier for the public to kind of know what's going on in their own zoning code. And so, with that, uh, we are seeking,
uh, I I will say one thing, too, and I'll I'll clarify this in the the motion. There are a couple of really minor changes. They don't affect the intent or anything or the content really. They're just aligning the table of uses with the definitions in the commercial kennel section. We need to
change. It says conditional use. It's actually an interm use in the new table. And then just some numbering in the table of uses for a section. So don't affect the intent or anything, but we just need to make those changes. So we're seeking for a motion a second approving ordinance uh 295 second
series. And that would be to repeal current chapters 11 and 12 and the current zoning map and it would replace it with the unified development ordinance and the new official zoning map and then ordinance 295 and then I would say with those changes that we
mentioned and then ordinance 295 second series summary for publishing purposes and with that I'll answer any questions as well. All right, thank you Jacob. Any questions? I don't have a question, but I will say that at our planning commission
meetings, we came up with a lot of scenarios that they had to look into is one of the reasons it took so long to get this done. It wasn't We didn't just sit there like bumps on the log. Yeah, it's been you've been working on it a
long time. All right. Hearing no other questions, then I would entertain a motion to adopt ordinance 295, second series. and repeal chapter 11 and 12 of the city and Becker city code and the current official
zoning ordinance map and adopt the UDO and new official zoning map with the changes that Jacob mentioned and I'll make that motion but I'll second. Okay, we have a motion by Rick. We have a second by Mike. Is there any further discussion? Hearing none. All in favor, please state
I. I. Anyone opposed state no. That motion carries. Thank you very much. I'll make motion to uh adopt ordinance 295 second series summary for publication. Second. We have a motion by Rick, second by Mike to publish the
ordinance. Any discussion? Hearing none. All in favor, please state I. Anyone opposed, state no. That motion carries. Thank you. Thank you all very much for your support on this. I really appreciate it. And the time and take a two week vacation hour.
Get some of that. Well, I painted myself, so I got to get that off. Well, there you go. Mr. Mayor, may I just quickly on behalf of MSA, we appreciate you taking confidence in us and letting us work with you over these couple of years to update this. Um, we're uh we're
finishing up our part of the contract, but we're not far away. Jacob also know how to get a hold of us if anything comes up, but uh congratulations on the zoning championship tonight. So, all right. All right. Thanks, Mike. Thank you. All right, moving on to the change
orders for the 2025 street improvements project. Mr. Kudson, good evening, mayor and council. I kind of want to break the trend because I don't want to be a change order champion. You already are. U in front of you tonight, uh the the
main genesis for this change order is uh my error. Uh to start with I did not include the uh golf course paving uh in the 2025 street improvement project. So uh I neglected to put that in the uh original documents for SE and subsequently we didn't put it on there.
It is budgeted in our CIP um and I just failed to do that. So that brings us here to the change order. Uh with that there was a couple of surprises um as as was mentioned the the quiet zone, the striping that we need to do. Um, just to elaborate a little bit more on the quiet
zone. Um, the signage, as Chris mentioned, will be done by staff um, this year. So, we're trying to put our best foot forward with the federals um, to to look show them that we're we're going to get the striping done. We're going to get the sign packages done and asking if we can do some engineering and and incorporate the curb work that would
need to be done in next year's street improvement project. If they say no to that, uh, we'll bring it back and we'll work with either local contractors or potentially our contractors on the current street projects to try and get some of that pricing in there. But, um, there's a bend towards they'll give us a
little leeway if as they see that we're putting our best foot forward to get some of this stuff done. So, we'll keep uh public works, we'll work through public works and keep council up to speed should we need to do anything yet this year. So uh but with that uh we did reach out to Sir Lines a lot is our uh
they're the low bidder on our street projects. I'll go too. It's it's a name we remember, right? That is true. Yeah. So baby needs stripes. So uh um anyhow
I see we got dad jokes left over from Oh man. Um but anyhow with that uh we're we're looking to uh capture them while they're here. So uh part of the change order is for them to do the quiet zone striping work. Uh that one is a price not to exceed I actually put it uh I
included the contractor's markup uh which would be as it's uh proposed to us at 17,84811. Um we are working with them that we're hoping the timing is such that when they're in town doing the street work they can do it at the same time. uh we
left the mo mobilization in this bid uh just in case something didn't work out. So I didn't want to come back and have to ask for that there. But hopefully we'll see that that two I it's $2,000 or $2,100 that we could remove from that. Um the other issue is on Woodland Court as Becky mentioned uh when staff was out
there uh exercising the hydrants to uh just check gate valves, make sure everything's working. Uh they couldn't get the hydrant one of the hydrants to seat out there to shut it down. uh with the road torn up, it's the best time to try and replace that hydrant lead. So, uh we we look to our contractor to to
give that. The pricing of the materials is is decent. Uh the work they got us over a barrel a little bit. I think it's decent pricing. I don't think it's like a screamer deal, but it's it's good pricing. Uh along with that, what we would look to do is place some isolation valves. Neither of the hydrants on
Woodland Court right now have isolation valves. So if staff needs to do any work, we've got to shut the whole main off and shut the development off from water. So since we're there, we would like to um make it more uniform with what we do in the city where we can isolate any of the hydrants and work on
the hydrants while keeping everybody else with water. So that's what that number come to be. It's 20,000 uh 20,000 uh 960. Uh it actually rounds up a little bit more than that with the 5%. Uh and that would look to come out of the the water uh CIP. Uh as for the
paving on the golf course, we broke that down into two sections as well. Uh the wellhouse uh that resides on the golf course um is the function of the water department. So we wouldn't have that road going out to the wellhouse if it wasn't for the wellhouse being there. So we broke the paving down in two
sections. One is from basically the clubhouse or the uh the garbage structure uh out to the maintenance shop. The maintenance shop was paved in 2018, the the parking lot. So that's in in really good shape. Um, so we would pull that out of the Gulf CIP and then
from the maintenance shop to the the wellhouse, we would look to pull that out of the water fund. Uh, we were looking to add that into our CIP for next year. Um, because I made the error. Um, but in talking with Greg, too, we looked at it and said, "Well, it makes more sense to look at our quantity
pricing right now and do that work so we're not bringing heavy equipment over a brand new stretcher road and have to redo that next year." um the fund balances are adequate there to to be able to cover this. So when you wrap the whole thing up, we put it all in one but broke them down because we have different funding sources. Uh the change
order total comes to uh 91,44255. So tried to give you a good synopsis of where we're at. Um but I can stand for any questions should you have them as well. All right. Thank you. Anybody have any questions for Phil? All right. Then we'd entertain a motion
for change order number one. I'll make a motion to approve change order number one for the 2025 street improvement project in the amount to not exceed $91,44255. I'll second. All right, we have a motion by Becky, a second by Robin. Any further discussion?
Hearing none. All in favor, please state I. I. Anyone opposed, state no. That motion is carried. Awesome. Thank you. Thank you. And we're on to the consent agenda. Mayor Coberger, city council members. Items for approval on tonight's consent agenda include approving the hiring and
termination report, declaring a property surplus and ordering its disposal for the police department and as well for the city hall. Approve the 2025 liquor license renewals and approve partial pay request number 11 in the amount of $27,15767
to Apex Construction Group for the police department city hall renovation project and I'll be happy to answer any questions. Anybody have any questions for Greg? If not, we would entertain a motion on the consent agenda. Make a motion we
approve the consent agenda as presented. I'll second. We have a motion by Mike, second by Rick. Is there any discussion on the consent agenda? Hearing none. All in favor, please state I. I. Anyone opposed, state no. That motion is carried.
Thank you. Next up is payment of the bills. Make a motion to pay the bills. A second. All right. Robin and Rick want to pay the bills. Is there any discussion? Hearing none. All in favor, please state
I. I. Anyone opposed? State no. Bills are paid. Just want to give a quick shout out to the Freedom Days Committee. Uh if people weren't aware, the the city was no longer in charge of Freedom Days. It's now a nonprofit organization structure with volunteers. So, a shout
out to Mary Langley. She did a great job coordinating things, spent countless hours, uh said a lot of prayers about the weather. It was mostly, I think, answered. So, good job to her on that. Um, big shout out to the Becker Lions.
The fireworks were awesome and they they of course played a key role again. And city staff, uh, we weren't in charge, but I saw a lot of city staff around. I'm sure everybody did. And, uh, they did a fantastic job. Thank you to all law enforcement. I know Saturday, Friday
night into Saturday was kind of a weird time. Um, but we had a a very large uh law enforcement presence which was really appreciated. I know a lot of those folks worked some extra time. So, great job everybody. I think it was a pretty awesome Freedom Days. It was fun
to be downtown again. Anybody have any comments? No. It's good turnout for the parade. Yep. Yeah. Good. Fantastic. Then I guess we would be looking for a motion to adjurnn.
I move we adjurnn. Second. We have a motion by Mike, second by Rick. All in favor to adjurnn, say I. I. Anyone opposed? State no. Meetings adjourned at 5:46. We do have uh executive session coming up. Does anybody want a break or do we
want to just roll? Let's roll. Rock. It's 5:47. We'll call the executive session to order. 20 minute break, please. We're gonna talk about compost apparently. [Laughter]
Thank you, Tony. It's a discussion. Tony, you got a haircut on your part of the cool kids. Yeah, you're still cool to us. You're still cool to us. Thank you.
teaching you a teacher on my phone. I tried to read this on the phone. Yeah. Not so good. Thanks. Thank you. Oh, this is what you emailed us. Yeah. Yep. I just in case you couldn't read it. Couldn't read it on
your phone. Couldn't read it. Well, what I do is I use my computer. It's got a 32 in screen. It's pretty easy to see. My computers were busy today. All right. We won't try to take too much time. Just wanted to kind of bring this up. We talked about a little bit of
public works committee. Um so as you know we have a yardways site. We uh when I started here it was a joint agreement between the cities of Elk River, Big Lake, Zimmerman and us and the county. Uh the city each year will apply for
score funding from the county that helps fund the yard waste facility. Um the first thing I gave you was a letter from the county. So this is just an update so you guys are aware. Uh Bonco has started up their source separated organics program again. So per our score
agreement and we accept that money then all of our material from our yardway sites goes to that source separated organics um organization whoever's doing that they just take over the old full circle facility or I don't even know it's on their site there so I don't I
assume so north side they had started it like Vonco had started back up again three four years ago for a short time and then they've they've been at some of our meetings talking about wanting to get it going again and we need the material, we need the carbon so we can
do this and and it's always kind of yeah that's that's great. Who's paying for it? Right. So um so part of that is this is just a letter from the county just reminding us that as part of that agreement that material has to go to Vonco now. So just wanted
you guys to be aware of that. Um Chris, sorry. Does that mean nobody can take anything from the compost site essentially? Yes. Okay. Yep. So, we did ask like, you know, can we just keep some? No. I mean, that's kind of a, you know, you grind it, we can kind of do what we want to do. So, we got a little bit cuz I know people do like to come
and get some, you know, for potting plants and, you know, holes in the yards, those kind of small things. Um, so we will make sure we have some of that available yet, but yes, we will honor our agreement to the best of our ability. Uh, we we mentioned to the county, I mean, they didn't say absolutely not, but the language states
we're supposed to send it all to Vonco. So, so when we grind that up into black dirt that all that is supposed to go to full or whatever they are now Yep. So, looks like Yep. Um, so that was an update on that. Then yesterday we had a
meeting um as a group again. So, one of the things over time that we've seen and I've I've got some numbers on my computer. The score funding has been $40,000 since 2020 and last year they bumped it up to $55,000.
Uh which seems like a lot of money, but the grinding costs have uh grown exponentially. So cost per square yard has gone up from $2 to $3 a square yard to now it's more like eight or nine. Um so the increases part of that is there's just not many people that do it. um it's
very rough on equipment and um you got to have if you do it you got to have a some way to get rid of it and make money otherwise it doesn't make any sense. So we have seen some that have kind of gone away some that don't want to do it just because grinding our material can be interesting for them and hard on their
equipment. Um, and then we've also what we battle with, especially, you know, like last year with a couple of pretty significant storms in the summer. Then in the winter time, we had the heavy snow that took out a lot of trees just in our town. Uh, this is open to anybody in Sherburn County. So, if you live in
the county, you can get a card from one of those four sites and bring things in. And what we've seen over time is people are taking full advantage of access to the site. So, uh, apparently everybody except me has a dump trailer now cuz they are in and out of that place
non-stop. Um, which, you know, the easier the equipment is, the easier it is for people to bring things in that are, uh, not allowed beyond what that sites used for. Um, I think that's kind of the full circle that we're seeing right now as all four entities is, uh,
the county sees these sites as a way to, uh, you know, they they have a source separated uh, policy in the county. They want to try to keep as much organic material out of landfills as they can. These sites were one opportunity for that. These sites were never intended to
be commercial dumping sites. Uh and that is kind of our biggest battle. So, um a lot of people, you know, even if we see people that come in and you know, dump trailer, big truck, yeah, it's my card from my residence. Yeah, but you were here nine times last week. So, that's
probably not all coming from your house. So, um, the as our discussions have gone around, the county's kind of changed their tune a little bit. Uh, in the past, it was kind of a you guys take care of sites, you do it, take care of it, monitor it, keep people out that aren't supposed to be there. We're kind
of the bank. We provide money. Um, and and that's what we want to do. Um, as we've these problems have kind of grown and as we see more material coming in, it's we need to do something different. Like that's not going to work. And we've always been very careful to stay together as the four because if you
change, if one person does something different, then it's going to be a repercussion to the other three. So if we say we're not taking something, the other three are going to get hammered. So um so we're always very cautious as a group to try to stay together. Um
with that being said, the county is very interested in continuing this program. They want access for people. um they have very clearly said that although we did see a little increase here that their score funding for the county is what it is is what it is kind of there's
there's not more money going into that. So we're not saying you're going to get less but we're not saying you're going to get more either. Um so that's a bit of a struggle like I said with volumes going up and grinding costs going up. We in the past have been, you know, maybe
spending half of our score funds and that would cover not only the grinding but disposal of that. It would cover our bills related to electricity, cameras, the system that operates the gates, all those things. Now, last this year, we
did a grinding in February and it was $58,000. Our score funding is 55,000. So in one grinding we used up all of our score funds plus a little extra and now our question to the county as well. Our pile is almost as big as it was last year
already. And now what what are we going to do about that? So the re kind of that part of this discussion is and we've kind of pushed back on the county a little bit. Um if you can't give more funding what what is kind of your solution or what you think we should do there. The meeting we had on Monday was
a focus was on well we need to get rid of commercial haulers. We need to stop commercial haulers. Yes, I agree. How? Um, you can. So, the first discussion was limit hours. Whatever your hours are, if a person wants to use it, they'll figure the hours out and they'll use it. So, to me,
that's not that's not a solution. Um, we talked about attendance and those kind of things. So, it's it was a topic that was brought up. you know, you have to either make an appointment, which again, I have some concerns because now the people that aren't using it incorrectly are going to have less access because
people other people are using it incorrectly. So that and it seems like an awful waste of all that equipment that we installed when now if we're going to make appointments. So um we talked about having an attendant, but obviously if the score funding is such that doesn't cover much more than a grinding, that additional cost would
have to be absorbed by the cities themselves. So, I don't know what the appetite is there, but you know, our material is that comes in, I would say you at at a very high-end 50/50 city versus other, I'd say it's probably more
other than city, but it's it's hard to quantify that exactly. So you you know the internal struggle is a little bit of well if our score funding isn't covering most of those costs anymore then I struggle with our taxpayers subsidizing either a commercial business that's using it in a way they're not supposed
to or just people outside of our city bringing things in. You know if you have acorage outside and you want to take down 12 trees because you got them. Well that's nice but now that's an expense that's greater than most of what our residents would do. Um, so
we haven't really decided exactly what what was proposed our last meeting is one step we'd like to do is we'd like to do a hard reset of all the cards. So something that we've seen is there are people that have cards that are no longer residents, but they were residents at one time, they just keep the card. Um, we've had other ones where
people take other people's cards and then they just keep them. Um, so uh, one proposal is we get it out. Uh the cities would share it, the county would share the information, letting all people that have cards at the site know that January 1st of 2026, we're going to kill all the
cards. If you have your card and you are still a resident, you can come in, show that you have residency, so water bill, something that proves you're a resident, and we'll just reactivate your card. That will get rid of some of the people, people that can't prove that they're, you know, a resident anymore. We'll kind
of clear some of that up. We'd also talked about potentially doing that on a regular basis like maybe annually or every 5 years. Yep. The group wasn't as excited about that. And then we had also talked about, you know, what's it worth to an individual. So right now it's free
essentially. You know, you lose a card, you got to pay I think we're up to $10 now for a second card. Seven 10 10. Um, so the thought was and it was something I proposed to the group was, well, I mean, if we're worried about, you know, we're short on funds and we want to try
to limit this some, it would make sense then that you do this annually. People have to come back in, you got to get your card re-engaged and you pay $10, $20, $5, you know, something that we could agree on as a group that would make sense. And if you want access to
that and a good place to get rid of those materials, I I'd pay it. I mean, it's not a lot of money and it's convenient to use. So, um, the group as a whole was a little cooler on that concept of it. They like the hard reset once, but not so sure about doing it all
the time. So, why not? Why? Yeah, it it makes sense. If you're coming up uh $50,000 short every year, you got to have some way of recouping that money. I'm not interested in spending our taxpayers money for something like that where non city residents are using it. I
think some concerns was administrative time to do the process each year because it's still going to fall back on each city to do it. It's not the county. I did proposed the county that we could move that function to planning and zoning in the county and they could do it. Yes. I didn't get much response to
that one, but um cuz I thought that would save us a lot of time. Um so that's kind of where we're at with that part of it. Um, yeah. So, I guess tonight I'm kind of I'm assuming as a council and I'm guess I'm asking you guys. I mean, we want to continue to
have a yard way site as a city. It makes sense for our residents, that kind of thing. Um, we are pushing back to the county to help us try to figure out what the best solution is for just this growth in people using the site, the stuff they bring. Um, I guess I didn't
touch on the illegal dumping. Some of this is probably, you know, we probably hasn't haven't enforced this as strongly as we could have over time. Um, in the past, I looked back actually and found at one point we actually had to apply for the score funding like there was a little application you filled out. We
haven't had to do that for a while. So, I don't know if the county kind of just decided it wasn't important anymore or um and there was one of them you had to lay out every line item. One line item was a certain amount of money for disposal of illegal debris. So that was kind of accounted for in the past, but
now we're again we don't have money for that now. So yeah, any of the dirt, rocks, stumps, root balls, u garbage bags, lumber, bricks, uh all that kind of fun stuff, the when they come to grind, the grinders will just
push it off to the side and then we have to get rid of it some way, shape or form. Usually means taking it out to Vonco. Um, so again, in the past when we weren't expending all of our score funds, it wasn't a big deal. You could use some of that money to take that, but now again, we're to that point where
we're not quite getting enough to cover all that. So, um, I guess it I wanted to give you guys an update. I didn't expect you'd say we don't want it. Um, I guess what we're going to keep pushing with the county is kind of working on eliminating commercial haulers. I'm still not exactly sure how we're going
to do that. Can you can you limit the number of times a card works per week? It's a good question. I know we can set timers for when the cards will work. Uh I don't know. I'll look. Even if it doesn't limit to say like it's going to deny you if it'll at least alert you. So
you come in on Monday and it says, you know, Mark was here 17 times this weekend. You know, at least we would know after the fact. Well, and that that is one thing that's one thing too we've kind of brought up to the county a little bit is it it all sounds good when we talk about doing it like even us
trying to enforce it more because it makes sense if you don't enforce it people don't care the problem is it takes a lot of time like trying to look at the cameras and then I know even our PD's been very helpful this year with kind of our next step because uh last year I had kind of added to code so I
wanted to make sure our code stated what we do accept what we don't accept and what the process is if you dump something that's not accepted. Um, and PD has been very helpful, but they've even acknowledged like, okay, this is a lot. Like, we didn't think it was going to be this many. So, um, so we're
working working through that process. And that was kind of thing we said to the county too, like, okay, I you know, we sit in a meeting and we say we have to stop this, but you have to actually do it. And that's really difficult without I mean I still come back to without an attendant there checking vehicles because even we have a camera
that can see cars coming and going but a lot of these trailers now have covers. So they put the tarp over and they go and I can't see what's in your trailer. I can see it's this pile probably here. So then it gets a little like well it wasn't my stuff. How do you know it was my stuff? You know so it gets to be kind
of that issue. Um, so I will Chris, can you define what a root ball is for me? A root ball would be anything, so anything that's like not a stump of a tree, but it still contains the roots of a bush or a tree that you've ripped out of the
ground. And the reason we can't accept them, because I kind of had this discussion with Corey a little bit, like it's weird that we can't like these grinders can grind, you know, 35 inch logs. not the ones we get here, but some of the big ones can. Um, but it's the what their concern is that there's the,
you know, if these root balls grow and they absorb a rock as they grow and this rock is in there now that goes through the chippers and now it's a problem for their chipper blades. So, yeah. So, but it's not like from flower pots. No, flower pots can Yeah, those kind of roots are fine. They can run that right
through the grinder. It's more from brush, trees, those kind of things. Yep. Okay. Yep. Would there be a market to charge the commercial people? So, we used to charge commercial people. It was about a thousand bucks, I think, a sticker annually, and you're supposed to
do each vehicle. They figure out ways around that, too, unfortunately. But, um, that was proposed. Elk River talked about that. Elk River actually talked about could they charge fork. So, we we kind of all have a little bit different ways where we're at, right? Elk River just gets hammered from the metro. So
they struggle with either people that are in the county that go that way to do work and then they bring the material back which they're not supposed to do but they do. Um and so one of their things were and there one of the things we run into I guess it's kind of where I'm getting a feel too. the uh the mayor
when we first talked about eliminating commercial haulers, the mayor at the time in Elk River, I think he still is mayor, he said that, okay, if you guys want to eliminate commercial haulers, you can do that, but you have to allow a commercial entity that does work for one
of my residents to be able to use that site. So, they have to take the card from the homeowner, and if it's grass clippings or brush they trimmed or a tree they took down, they still have to be able to use that. because if I have a 85-year-old resident that can't do that work, they need to be able to get rid of
that. So, he was very adamant about we can eliminate commercial haulers as just using the site for random, but you have to keep it open for them to use it, which is very difficult to it's good on paper, but how do you actually track that? We voiced that, but we kind of had
to go along with that and that sentiment at the time. So, um and that's where it gets difficult because again, then you're kind of, you know, you got to kind of interrogate like what are you doing here? What do you got? Getting paid by that 85y old to do the work. So if there's a charge involved. Mhm. It would be passed on. I I don't know. I
mean, it it was something we talked about. It'd be a way to fund back and it just in the past it was difficult because then it's, you know, you got to get the stickers, people got to buy them. I mean, we could do the process, but again, it's another administrative task on our end if we want to do it that
way. And I'm not sure it's still cuz then we get into now if we open it back up fully and we have volumes that are greater than our site capacity, now we have a different issue. And especially if the score funds stay flat and we open it up and all of a sudden our pile,
we're full and it's June. Okay, we're closing the site. So now the residents can't use it because we can't do it. or we the city would have to take on potentially a second grinding at $55,000 a year, which I mean, if that's where
you guys want to go, we could do that, too, I guess. But I'd be more in favor of having an annual fee for you. I would pay it. I go there. I don't use it all that much, but I would pay it because what else am I going to do with it? Yeah. Well, it seemed like a good a good
easy first step. Do the other one other entities have a a fee? It's all the same. So, we all follow the same thing. So, first card is free, replacement cards are $10. He was saying that they don't want to do a every year fee, but I think we really need to. Yeah. I think
some of them were concerned just about the administrative side of it. You know, if you're a city of Elk River and you kill all the cards and you have to redo it, you're talking a fair number of people that got to come back through the door and do that. Now, you probably call in and have it done and pay over the phone kind of thing, but online process.
Do it online possibly. But I'm going to guess that a lot of that's going to fall back to us to do. The county is helpful to a point. I understand that. But Yep. If we could set it up where they could do it online. Okay. Pay with your water bill. Yeah. Jinx.
Okay. Brilliant minds think alike. Beautiful. 25 bucks a year. Nothing. I pay more than that. And I like I said, I don't use it that much, but I don't mind. I mean, when you go around and see
things, you know, Maple Grove has a big site, but it's more of a privatelyun. You know, those cities can go there, but everybody pays a fee. You know, you pay a fee to use it. You pay a fee if you're dumping additional materials, so size of load. So, there's people there monitoring it. When I lived in Sock
Rapids, I think it was open Tuesday and Thursday for like two hours and Saturday for four. So, you know, to me, that would be, you know, if you're really going to go one direction, you could do that. But then you're kind of losing the convenience of what we currently have,
which I think is we would hear about it. You would hear about it and I don't think that's where we want to go. So it's just too bad that a few ruin it for the many. Mhm. Always the case. Yep. Is there um from a city standpoint, is
there enough use to purchase a grinder that we would use it in other areas of the city where we could justify purchasing it and use doing that ourselves? They're really expensive. I mean, you're well over a million dollars for a grinder. That'd be like buying a
for a bigger one. The liability. Yep. So the the uh they had a grinder with the when it was a joint powers they had a grinder like a tub grinder originally long before my time. Was that the one that we had to dissolve because Yeah. No, that was a skid steer. Yeah. Zimmerman still at the skid steer. It
didn't ran didn't run. Hadn't run for years. Was sitting in the corner of a shed. Um, so I had brought that up four years ago because I'm like, well, if the problem is we can't get grinders for a reasonable cost, can't we purchase one with use score funding or somehow and
then that was not no, it's too expensive. Uh, what they got into was, you know, it went from one site to the next. Who's going to transport it? Who's taking that cost on? Then it was, well, it got here and it's broke. You guys broke it. Fix it. Well, no, it worked fine when we, you know, so there was that whole circle. So, the group was
very was not really in favor of of doing that. We did talk about it. Um, but then the cost of the grinders alone is kind of a non-starter. That's a lot of money. You say well over a million or is it a million? Uh, I think the one that uh
that was just here was 1.2 or something. Yeah, he had just bought it. So who hauls the stuff to Vanco? So in the past the kind of the debris that's not supposed to be there, we would do it
just with city trucks. I meant the new the organics now that we're grinding. So if Vonco does it, they will haul it. We still have to pay them to haul it, but that's what the score funds are for per the county. So the countyy's giving us score funding, but saying we have to
transport all of our organics out there. Mhm. How much are we spending on that in a year? Do you know? Uh well, in the past we haven't cuz when they do the grinding they dispose of it. So we haven't had to deal with that yet. Got it. So that's kind of the next piece of the puzzle here. Um it does say in the
agreement. So that letter it does talk about uh let's see uh position of receiving the grant provided for in this agreement. Grantee shall make all carbon material resulting from grant's composting operations available for any source separate
organics recycling program located within the county. The county will provide grantee notice and then uh so it's available grantee may not dis okay if grantes transportation and disposal costs increase as a result of
transporting the carbon material to a designated source separate organics composting program. county will increase the grant provided for in this agreement in an amount equal to granty's increased transportation and disposal costs. So it says that in there, but yet it sounded
like in our meeting like their their number is topped out. So I guess I'd have to explore that a little more. They're in a huge budget issue down there because of all the stuff that's come down from the state in the last couple years. A lot of it is hitting their budget directly. So that was
mentioned. That's Yeah. So yeah. Yeah. So, so we will the plan is to meet again in August. So I guess I feel like we've got a little bit of idea. We want to keep it. There's some things we can suggest on our end that'll make it better. Um I don't know if if at some
point they want to get councils or mayors together. Would you guys have any interest in meeting if there's I know in the past they talked about it. So okay. Well, we could send a representative. I wouldn't then if if that's something that they want to do in addition then I
will get that set up but but if we did do an annual fee then everybody would do that. So anybody that's got a card right will have to be the sites would stay the same. That's always been our goal and everybody's usually been pretty receptive to that. So because we know if one does something differently then it's
going to drastically affect the other three. So well if we charged the fee but then we would keep the fee. So, the city of Becker charges the fee. City of Becker keeps the fee. I mean, I'm not gonna for 25 bucks a year, I'm not gonna run my stuff down to Big Lake all the
time. I'm going to pay the $25 and do it here. I think most people would, too. So, is that something we could just I I don't think that's really going to affect their stuff too much other than maybe the commercial people. Yep. So, is that something we consider doing even if they don't? You don't have key
separation though, right? They're all the same. The same. Yeah, your key will work in Big Lake or El River. Pull all that money to the county and they would have just all start bringing our stuff to Big Lake somehow. The other thing, what kind of is there a fine on illegal dumping there? What? We
started that this year. $350. So, well, I think a thousand is a better maybe not for my root ball that I might accidentally have in there at one time or another, but but to make it palatable for our residents, what we do is we reach out to them and if they remove the illegal, there's no cost to to that. And
we've seen a few folks wrestling, I'm not joking, couple of stumps about like this. Yeah. Onto a sled trailer by himself sweating profusely. The Christian in me wanted to stop but the city guy in me said so just a couple of things to to point
out there are a few that do this Karina Township I have that's where our our cabin is at um they just instituted this they started a composting site and it was open and then two years later they gated it and then they gave you a code and everybody kept violating it and so
now they went to a it's locked and you have to check in at the township hall uh 8 to2 two Monday through Friday and people revolted. So now they said, "Oh, if you want access, here's a card. It's $30 annually." Yep. To do that. I use it once or twice a year. I pay the 30 bucks because it's convenient. You just do it.
So there's precedent out there for that. The other thing is is we trying to push to the county. You've got a big old site in Becker. Put your wood sight over there. Let us do grass clippings. Um yeah, the countyy's keeps doing this thing, but we'll keep beating that drum.
Yeah, because they don't have general public going out there right now. So, that'd be a security change for them, right? And the other thing that we're going to try and do with Vonco as well is to reach out to the operations folks that we've worked with on other things to say if you're grinding this and
you're doing it countywide, why not let them bring it right to you? You know, keep the grass clippings here and here and the Becker site, you receive all the debris out there. It saves a ton on the hauling side of it and they're right there. So you'd think their mobilization is because that makes
too much sense. Yeah. So just a couple things that we're trying to push on as well. So what do we do with the grass? Okay. So let's just say we were just let's just say something like that did occur and you know the bigger stuff goes out to Vonco. The grass clippings just stay with Becker. Then what I mean do we just do we just operate a compost site
or do we just scoop that up and send it over to Vonco? Well we'd have to plan for a grinding but the grindings would probably be probably more like every three years even maybe less than that. I mean, the amount of grass and organic material like that we get is significantly less than tree debris. So,
have them come in, run it through the grinder, and then yeah, you pile it up. And now, technically, yard waste and composting are different. So, we'd have to make sure we're keeping in line with the PCA and their people. But, um, yes, we've used material that we've had
sitting for a couple of years, top dressing our fields at the BAC, top dressing the ditch on Highway 10, top dressing other parks. So yeah, it's good material for that. And there's a few weed seeds in there, but you know, we can work around those. So, but it it didn't have a cost. We didn't have to go
purchase black dirt, so that's a plus. And Bonco takes big tree debris like stumps and Yep. Yep. Yeah. We're not sure. We kind of talked about that meeting some. We weren't sure how open Vonco would be to It'll be the next
meeting with the county. We'll kind of see if they can start that conversation. You know, it would make a lot of sense if these commercial people can just drive there and get rid of it. It's right at your grinder. You don't have to mobilize, bring your m, you know, your equipment around to our sites. Yeah. Make a lot of sense to me. That would
there's a site across the street that's, you know, not being used anymore. You could have that be your dump off site and then it's real close, too. So, either way, that if the if the if the trees and stuff were taken right to it would solve our problem completely, wouldn't it? It would make our problem
very different than what it is now. Yes. So, we wouldn't have much of a problem. We could take a lot of yard waste for several years before we had to really think about doing much with it. Yep. Yeah. You if you go out there, well, you can even go on Beacon right now and look at the the pile from last year because
that's the photo. It's about 3/4 of the site. That's how much tree debris we had. So, yep. Maybe we couldn't just have one big old redneck bonfire just like a city event or you know put all the stumps, all the trees just, you know, just have a tried
that fire, put it out. Yeah. A couple years ago, they could use it as a as a training for fire department. Yeah. Just hang out and find an old house and fill it up and Well, throw a bunch of stumps in there for the existing pile. It was it was talked about just because I don't
know what else you're going to do with it right now. I mean, we'll have to grind or do something with it. So, but it's going to have a cost that goes with it. So, Yep. Okay. Well, I've got some things I can talk about with our luck in August. Probably fly over to Northern Metal.
Yeah, we like Northern Metal. Thank you. Yeah. Thanks, Chris. Thanks. All right. Post office discussion. Yippee. Well, it keeps rearing its ugly head. So, Big Lake
Yeah. got notified like 10 days ago. So, I went to their city council workshop meeting, I think last Wednesday. Um, nobody really knows what's happening. Um, but they were told
their post office is like ours. It's old. They need something new, definitely. Um, but Big Lakes pretty worked up. So, I went last Wednesday and and really the message is maybe if we work together,
this probably still a long shot, but two communities complaining are stronger than one. Are they getting booted too or what? They might get moved to Monty as well. So, Oh jeez. Um Okay. So, there there's been Well, then Monell is going
to have to build a new They're going to have to add on. Uh last Thursday morning I did talk to the mayor of Monaceel. He's not interested in having a whole bunch more traffic because where their spot is. If you're coming from the south, you're going to
have a semi turn right at Perkins. That doesn't work. There's not enough room. And if you're coming from the other direction, you're going through two roundabouts. That really doesn't work either. So we're trying to coordinate. Um, I just wanted to kind of get
consensus. I'm sure you're fine with me working with Big Lake. I mean, that that's just kind of what we talked about last week. If we can So, Mayor Coner and I have talked about this several times. We talked about it again this morning. Are you talking about a shared facility?
No, we're talking about telling the post office communities, you know, with their stuff there. Um, honestly, I mean I think the shared facility I don't see how it's more efficient when
you look at miles but Becker and Big Lake shared makes a whole lot more sense than anybody driving the Monaceel through that. You put something like an 11 or something where it was really close to both communities maybe and right but their hang-up is is they don't build a building right well no they built the building in Monaceel and own
it so okay I did have about a 45minute discussion with Greg Shelton today he's out of Colorado with the United States Post Office he's telling me we'll have a resolution in 30 to 60 days what um
you've heard that before correct um he told me the decision is made much higher than him. Um, but his backstory was they were working with the business owner in Becker who dropped out and I said that is absolutely not true. Grant worked
with you for years, gave you a year additional notice, right? Um, so everybody comfortable with me working with Monty Monaceel and Big Lake? Um, I asked Mayor Hiltgart and Monty to provide a letter that says he doesn't
want our people. Good. Yeah. And he doesn't want the increased traffic. So, I don't know if he's going to do that. Um, I'll get back to him, but does anybody have any opposition to that? No. No. Okay. Um, Mr. Shelton today uh is in
a bit of a panic because he's worried that that building might be demolished. And I said, "Dude, it's mostly gone already." Yeah. Um, and he's like, "What do you mean?" And I said, "You have It's most of it's gone." Um, and he's there's
no structural cracking or anything from that in there that we know. I saw Grant last that wall that's there, that's the old shop from Anderson Gilliard. So, they took that building down completely basically except for that wall already
looks better. Um, yeah. So, I told them the building's already gone. you are not getting an extension. He wants the city to provide a spot for temporary post post office boxes like a if you just got
a a big cement pad laying around and if you don't we will pour the pad. So right away I thought let's get pickle ball courts out of them. But but here's the post office. They will spend money to pour a temporary
slab. How about our parking lot? Yeah, but but but they want to come from Monosel. Well, that's just because he doesn't know what he's going to do in October. Even if they decided, hey, we're staying in Becker with the with the um
operations and retail. Come October, it's gone. Come October, they don't have a place for people to get their mail. I'd be willing to do something if they make a commitment to put a to get a new post office, but otherwise, I'm not too interested in helping them out. What exactly what I told him is why don't you
give us a signed lease agreement here and we will accommodate you and find a spot for the post post office temporary boxes. Um again that decision's made above him but
he is sure it's going to happen in 30 to 60 days. And I said well that does put us to I mean that that could be September 1st which only gives you a month. Mhm. Um my concern is I don't I don't know what
they do with the temporary boxes if they are going to move. He said we are going to have a retail location in Becker. We're going to have a post office, but it won't be ready in time. And he doesn't know if it'll be retail only or
if it will retain the operation. So, I talked him through the fact if you're looking at a map, Monaceel looks close to Becker. Last Tuesday, I would babysat my granddaughter, came home, stopped at their post office, clicked my timer, I
got to Becker 38 minutes later. Mhm. Yeah. Depending on the time of day. Yep. Yeah. So, I mean, he said he would reaffirm that with the people above him. Um, Mayor Conir and I are going to try to be on a call with Emmer's office
tomorrow out of DC. Well, would they operate it out of that current post office in Bonos? He said they according to Mr. Shelton, they do own the property next to him, which we've heard conflicting things. I don't know. Yeah, I've heard both, but
he said they would have to add on. And I told him today, I said, "Monaceella doesn't want you." And he's like, "What do you mean?" I said, "I talked to him. They don't want you over there. It's too much semi traffic and you can't get there. You should come try to drive a semi and turn
by Perkins. You're either going to take out cars or you're going to take out a stoplight. I mean, you'd almost be better off making a left going all the way down doing a U-turn in like the parking lot and coming back by holiday. I honestly I don't know.
I think we should make a video and send it to him. But um you the things that you and the big lake mayor can do that. Yeah. Right. But I did tell him the same thing if if you were going to permanently locate
here with your operations. You know, I don't I don't know what that looks like. So that would be a you know if there's a not that it's our issue to quote unquote solve but I mean the post office is one of those destination things you'll go to
it wherever it is. It's not like you're going to drive by and go oh crap I need stamps you know where like a where it has to have a great visible location to try and draw you in. So, I mean, if there is a tougher commercial property, and I'm thinking of like um you know,
like the hideout, the the one right next to the um on 11 and 10 there keeps rotating. That's bar 10. Yeah. Whatever it is now. I mean, it keeps rotating, but it's it's a hard property to, you know, if you're trying to run a location as a death, you know, where people to draw you in. That's a that's a horrible
place. However, if that's the where the post office goes, you will go there. So, it's um it's almost if if there could be a place like that, if somebody was sitting on a a commercial property or something like that where it' be like it'd be tough to tough to get rid of
otherwise. This might be this time to They've already they've already ruled out Becker and Big combining. Oh, they did. Yeah. Okay. I asked him that today. Okay. Cuz I said, I don't know why you're picking Monosel. That the worst possible traffic jam
bottleneck in the world. And I said, I would have a hard time arguing with you too much. And if I'm a postal delivery, driving the eight miles to Big Lake, not the end of the world, or vice versa, cuz I offered to host Big Lake. Um, he said,
"Oh, that's that possibility has already been eliminated." So I'm like, "So you picked even Clear Water is better than Monaceel. Crappiest possible because Clear Lake already has been merged with Clear Water, right? It's a fiveminute trip. But I said, "You you picked the worst
thing." And he said, "Yep, they did. Not me. The the people that are screening them have picked it." So, yep. But so, makes you wonder why they lose billions every year, right? So, if people are good with it, I'm still working with Big Lake and Monty to try
to do what we can. Well, I mean, I I would be in favor of of helping out with some temporary thing if we had a an agreement. Well, I figured people would I mean I mean residents are bugging it's
one of the things that they're bugging me about all the time. For sure. And you're like, we have no answer. And if we It's like our responsibility to build a post office, right? If we make it too too inviting though, we got we kind of got to leave a little pain in there because we don't want them to get too
comfortable where they go, "Oh, good. We don't have to solve this problem anymore. We'll just we'll just do the bare minimum, which is maybe offer some boxes and, you know, good luck." And now our temporary slab turns into, you know, 20 years later, we're the ones giving them the eviction. That's why he's a signed lease agreement or something,
right? But I I already told them it's it's this is not okay. it's completely unacceptable to leave us even in the interim without a retail space, right? I go, "Yeah, go pick up your mail is fine." And he said, "Well, the mail is still going to get delivered." I go,
"It's going to be a day later." I'm like, "I can't imagine already rough just because of the employment." So, anyway, like you got anything you got to sign for and you're not home, you're going to be driving to get it. I don't want to drive to Monosel. Yeah. I hate that
drive. Do that. Yeah, I don't go there on purpose. I mean, honestly, yeah. Side business. Side business. Phil back there. Like an Uber Eats. Yeah. Killed my mail. Yeah. Can you bring me KFC when
you're coming back, too? Yep. Oh, hell though. Door Dash. Uncle Phil's mailer. You'd be busy. They be hauling stumps out to Vanco and on the way it'll be. So anyway, just so people are aware, I
mean, we're I told Mayor Coner I'd call them and we're they're just at the point of writing letters and they asked us and I said, "Oh, we wrote letters a couple months ago and so hopefully tomorrow maybe we can get some traction with Emmer's DC people and we'll go from
there." Okay. You don't want to share that dude's phone number with the entire community, do you? Well, his email was already shared on the Big Lake community forum. No way. Yeah, that's where I saw it. So, I called I called the ruthless over
there. I actually called one of the council members and I'm like, "Hey, you having post office issues?" And she's like, "You wouldn't believe it." I go, "I bet you I would." And they're going, I mean, I said, "You're just three months behind us." So, but Big Lake was even unaware that the Big Lake
postmaster had come to Becker for the site visit. They didn't even know that stuff was happening. So, yeah, they uh when we were doing the original bridge surveys, somebody put on the big one of the Big Lake forums, they uh they made up their own option. I
mean, we had options A through E. They made up an option F and it was going to cut through Big Lake and they had posted where to contact to get it added as option F. It was like I think it was SRF and they had like Yeah, they were they were real jealous about that. That was I think he's got to join their community.
He did mention today that um I can't remember his exact word like Big Lake seems to have a lot of indigestion about this right now. So I'm like, "Yeah, well I didn't post your email."
So, but yeah, but I could. Right. All right. Um, round table. I just had two quick things. Food shelf update. Um, they're looking at possibly building a building. So, that might be something we
hear about in the future. Can I talk more about that? Um, so they they're kind of eyeing that lot possibly behind the Legion. It's the old fire lot that we own. Smart. Um, so just know that um,
their lease actually expires with Furniture Mart this month. I talked with their owner today for quite a while about if the, and this is very preliminary, but if the food shelf were to pursue their own building,
um, we really don't want to move them twice in the next few months. So their owner is going to not really interested in having it there, but maybe it's more palatable. So kind of trying to broker a deal there. Well, own their own building rather than using
the space that we have, which we give to them, right? Mhm. Where are they going to get funds to build a building? Well, then they can make it what they want it. They were saying they grew 30% a year. Yeah. Their use has dramatically expanded since
they've been here. Well, I that I can believe, but it's going to be very hard to go to a smaller space now that you're used to the big one, right? I mean, they have more equipment and it's just not a good fit size-wise for that space. That's our safe room. Put a DMV in
there, right? It it is definitely very preliminary, but office. Yes. Yeah. Post off. That That one's sort of funny. No, you want to be postmaster, too. Okay, that was a joke. I'm sorry. No,
that was brilliant. Yeah, brilliant. Long as Greg Shelton didn't hear that, it's not big enough for post office boxes. Those are jokes. The reason I brought it up tonight, and I don't want to speak for the food shelf, but but that's what they're thinking. They're progressing enough where they're they're Phil has helped a
little bit with some of the background work. Jacob's had discussions and Austin's had discussions. They're far enough that they're talking to contractors. They're talking about building plans. So, I didn't want one of you to hear something and then be like, "Well, what's this?" So, it's I don't
speak for them, but just where they're at. There there could be a capital campaign for them to do that and it would allow them to be open some different hours. Um, they've I mean, in the last year, Quick Trip donates a lot
of stuff. Grant and the Roamachers donate a lot of things. So they have a much bigger need for freezers and things like that. Um where it used to be kind of the the one or two fridges we had and it's the churches I would say too are much more involved than they used to be. I
mean I used to bring stuff over from church all and the pastors are pretty pretty involved now. Uh operating like a board more than just kind of nice when Jan did it. Janet So this all happened because of the rumor that got out that we were kicking him out of here. kick
them out. No, I don't. That's what the rumor was. The space they just it's not going to be big enough for them. Right. The actual footprint is I think it's only a couple feet. It's virtually identical to what they had here. They had other cuz they were overflowing into that couple of closets.
Yeah. So, and that was before and now if they got more freezers and even if you found a place, you know, in the garage like in the new garage or something, even if you put those there, that's still you kind of walking through the PD to get stuff. Yeah, it's definitely not
ideal because you'd have to go get Yeah. go get staff just to go in the garage to go get something and if you forgot it, then you got to go get them again and Yeah. So, so I just wanted it on your radar to know that they're they're moving pretty fast um to at least
discuss it and we'll see if we can get them to stay at Furniture Mart. Is that something we do want to become land owners or do they want to become renters or for the land? I mean, does that something we rent the
land or do we sell the land or um what what would what would be their ultimate goal if we looked at that lot there? I don't know because they they would have to share a parking lot with the township. I think we would prefer they own the land, right? Own it. However, they
acquire it, right? So, that would take them to a whole another level when they're owning property. I mean whether they you know this building I mean right now they just you know it's a nice easy 501c3 taking some money taking some free it's a lot easier that puts them at a whole another
level there when they're that's why I was questioning it. Yeah it does but they're organized really similar to well exactly the same actually as how the Clearwater Clear Lake shelf is. I mean, they they have all the proper documentation cuz Clearwater just built
they just Yeah. built um Big Lake is getting kicked out of their spot as soon as they build a new city hall. We got a post office and a Yep. So, that Big Lake is um their food shelf people are also looking. So, all I know is there's going to be a spot for a pizza factory. I mean, both these places got to take
semi- traffic. I mean, you could actually I need to pick up my mayo and two dozen eggs and a gallon of milk. There you go. Three cans of chili. But I just want it on your radar. Nothing's been promised or anything, but do we need to have a discussion in the future
then about if if they're ready to move like what is our interest in that, you know, with that property? I mean, do we is it a do we sell it for a dollar? Do we sell it? Once they make once they make the request, we need to have a discussion. In my conversations with them, I said it's going to be important for the
council to weigh this out. You got to have a plan. We're going to need to see something. where is this going? Um before you come and say, "Hey, would the city consider donating or selling it for a dollar?" Um the council's going to want to see something and they were okay with that. So it is in their court to make that happen. What is the value of
that land? Do you know close city lot what 60 to 100? No, maybe really my guess probably three bucks. I'd have to look and see be sure. I don't know.
It's stubbed for water and see it. So, it has all that there. Have a house on it. Yep. Yeah, there was a house. And if there want to stand up, cuz I got a spot on my pants corner here or nothing, but you rather sit there.
That was good, too. Um when we talked with them yesterday because we had a meeting with Marilyn and then Joe was here and then pastor Johnson, Pastor Dave was here. They had asked a a lot of questions about zoning. We had talked to him about Phil had already kind of done a lot of that work
and reiterated based on that discussion. It didn't sound like they wanted to go quite as big as Clear Water, but part of the issue is they didn't really know what they were doing on size and they had a lot of ideas on well what if we do a kitchen? Well, what if we do a conference room? And so to Greg's point, we reiterated that the best way to get
there is to come up with a plan. We can tell all the zoning parameters and all that kind of stuff, but until they have a set idea of how much square footage they want. And there were a couple things that we'll respond to pretty that'll be tomorrow. Um, we talked about that already that we'll respond to them on those so they have really good
answers as they move forward. Um, but a lot of it's not really I mean unisex bathroom, they had a question about that. Can they do that? So some building code things, but if they had an architect to kind of guide them through that or a designer or whoever, and I know Phil has already suggested to them to do that, that would help them a lot in putting that stuff together. Right.
They have a lot of meetings scheduled for tomorrow. And that's why I just thought it was important to say it tonight. So out of full disclosure, nothing's once you meet with three people in this town, people are going to know about it. And Yep. So I didn't want you being blindsided of wondering what that is. So
all the local gossip at church on Sundays. You would have heard it, Mike. Yep. So now at least you've been told the value is 564. Really? It seems like a lot. Yeah, it does seem like a lot. Wow.
Real estate.35 acres. Okay. Wow. It's nice. It's got utilities in it. So yeah. Yeah, it's got utilities. The other thing I was going to say is on the zoning standpoint now that it's been adopted, it'll be official on Saturday, but with the UDO too, it is a use that
is allowed under that mixeduse zoning. If it was before we this had been adopted, it wouldn't have been a permitted use because it was an R1. So just so you know, that's also been they do they have to build around the trees.
It's going to be a courier service will take them though. We'll give them their number. Oh, you're looking for baby formula. That's in the oak room. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Down the maple corridor. Uh, one, anybody have anything else on
food shelf? The last thing I had just real quick was have there been any more discussions on the ebike thing, Phil? We've shared some stuff with Greg has shared the state is tackling it. Okay. Chris and I talked about it. Okay. We look at
some of those things districts are doing. Yeah. Gathering information. Can we set a speed limit of 10 miles an hour on the trails? Yeah. I don't know how you not necessarily you're going to but I mean as far as you know I don't know how you'd enforce most other things either.
you know, if somebody's on an ebike and same thing if they just if we say no ebikes and they cut on there, there's it's the same as that. I mean, if you were to say that, that way you don't have to get into the definition of what's an ebike and what's a whatever. It's just whatever you have. It's 10 m hour pedal bike or whatever. I would be
cautious about no making any kind of regulation where ebikes aren't allowed. It's you're going to have residence down your throat real fast. Well, then you can have them, but then you just can't whatever it is, whether it's a pedal bike or whatever, you can't be What's good to having them if you can't ride
them? Well, you can ride them. You just can't be on the trail. I just I know it takes time and we got to do it right, but I'm just afraid we're going to have something ready in November when we're not Well, I know the PD had a lot of conversation with some people on Freedom
Days down there. There's a lot of discussion with them. So, I'm just curious. I think people are starting to kind of understand that's something's going to be coming up, you know. Yeah. But few people make it bad for everybody. Mhm.
Cuz it's the kids, not the adults. Well, that's not all proved either. Well, no, I know. But yeah, we don't have regular bikes anymore. You have ebikes? No. Oh, I don't have any kind of bike. All right. Anything else for the round
table? Nope. All right. We'll adjourn the meeting at 6:42. I don't know where recycling is anymore. Oh, yeah. No kidding. I can take it. Thanks. We're like, where did it go? Here is anybody going to be
gone