which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for allible. All right, thanks for being here, everybody. Uh, first item up is the minutes from the May 6, 2025 regular
city council meeting. I'll motion that we approve those minutes. Okay, we have a motion from Becky. Do we have a second? I'll second. Thanks, Mike. We have a second. Rick wasn't here, so he will be
abstaining. Any discussion? Hearing none. All in favor of approving the minutes, please state I. Anyone opposed, state no. Minutes are approved. Uh the agenda, you have the revised one in front of you that adds
the summary of the city administrator performance review. Do we have any other changes to the agenda? If not, I would look for a motion to approve the revised city council meeting agenda. Motion to approve the agenda is uh
revised. I'll second. Motion by Rick, second by Mike. Is there any discussion on the agenda? Hearing none. All in favor, please state I. I. Anyone opposed? State no. The agenda is approved. Guests in open forum. Is there anybody here tonight
that would like to address the council? All right, we will move on to committee reports then. First up is the summary. So the city council, we conducted the performance review of the city administrator at a closed session during
the May 6th council meeting. Um the council evaluated the administrator on communication with the council and staff, competency in the performance of his work, quality of the work performed, relationship with staff and budget management, and the council unanimously
said the administrator's performance met or exceeded the expectations of the city council. Well done, Mr. Larude. Thank you. All right, move on to the EDA. And Robin's gone and I was gone at the
last meeting. Jacob, you want to talk about that? Thank you. I didn't warn you about that. Sorry. Well, that's all right. No worries at all. So, EDA met uh got to figure out the date cuz it was the second Hold on one second. I'll tell you
which day. 11th. Yeah, it's a Monday 12th. So, last week, May 12th, and the item, the main item on that agenda was talking about the city-owned industrial acreage
over across the way there, south of Todd Potter, and there's some interest in that property and talking about the appraisal, getting that done, uh, so that we can move forward with getting the right value on those lots. So, that was what was discussed and, um, EDA kind
of unanimously agreed to move that forward. they had talked about at the previous meeting as well and so that is on your agenda in the consent for tonight to get that appraisal done and then there'll be some other negotiating with the interested party in that property. All right. And then some other
updates generally. All right. Thank you very much. Any questions for Jacob? Awesome. Thank you. Public works committee. Public works. We met last Wednesday. Um we had a pretty good discussion about the compost site. Um it
is being used very much. It's been very busy. Um we've already actually gone through our grant money just because of the sheer volume in the first quarter. So what's happening is so we have been directed to keep you
know giving them the bills and then they're going to kind of see with the other people in the county if they have any monies left over if we can like kind of disimburse to the cities that need them. Um I know Zimmerman was contacted. they're having the same exposure at their site as well. Um, and of course
we're also dealing with, you know, people taking advantage of the compost site and just dropping off wrong things. So, what's going on is streets has been working with the city police just to kind of keep an eye on it. And if you're found, you know, basically dropping off
things that are not approved, um, if you come and pick those up, you will be you won't be fined. But obviously, if you are, it is it's a pretty hefty fine. It's a $350 fine for illegal dumping there. Um, we are changing some signage to make it just very clear with pictures
of what is not being able to get dropped off. Um, so that's about it with that. We talked about there's going to be a tool cat replacement, but we're not going to talk about that until our first meeting in June because we've got a couple bids on that. And we just had a
brief discussion too. The school reached out to us because, you know, we're getting a lot of ch state championships in this town and wanting to put the signs up on the highway and they're kind of losing space for those. So, we're just kind of going to be in conversations with the school to see
alter, you know, alternative ways of posting that stuff and see what we can do. So, that's it. Sounds good. We're doing too much winning is what I'm hearing. Right. All right. Excel advisory board. Excel advisory. We
met last Friday. Uh we met with uh representatives from the uh county Excel the city. Um I don't think anybody was there from the school. Um they're invited but uh there wasn't anybody there. And it was just a uh information
sharing um city with upcoming projects and then Excel with some of their upcoming projects and some of the county stuff going on. So just more of a information sharing. Sounds good. Any questions for Rick on Excel? Not. We'll move to Fireboard.
Fireboard, we met last night, May 19th. Um talked uh it was pretty quick meeting. Um the Red Path uh audit uh they were expecting them to be on site in June for the presentation. And uh speaking of uh winning all the time, we
uh continued this little little more discussion, but still no uh um decisions made yet about bus uh about escorts. Um so when the teams are going to state or whatever um uh about having uh the fire department and or you know well specifically the fire department cuz we're talking fireboard uh escorting uh
the teams out and um or if they're returning back to have them escort back and um kind of developing a policy on that just because um you know if it's uh you know anyway so they're they're looking to develop a policy on that. So uh still more discussion on that. So
that was the main main item other than just uh paying the bills. Awesome. Any questions for Rick on Firebart? If not, parks and wreck. Parks and wreck was canceled. Thank you, Mike. Planning Commission.
Planning Commission was not cancelled. I wasn't there. I just know that Parker, I got the email. All right. So, uh, planning commission, we met last night right after fireboard, actually. Um, 6 pm and
we had two items. Uh, number one was the, uh, uh, we had a public hearing for the cup for, um, which is 8 Bravo on our, uh, list for tonight here. So, we'll, uh, can discuss that more. Um, we had a public hearing for that. Um, that was pretty, uh, pretty seamless. Uh we
also had a uh second public hearing and this was this was the uh the uh lion share of the meeting which was the uh UDO so the uh code rewrite. Um we had the uh public hearing last night. We did have um we had one, two, three, four, I believe. Four uh um people from the
public um uh just just um one was just observing, but the other three were um were asking some specific questions about some things and um just uh this was good meeting overall. And we uh we did um close the public hearing and then
um there were there were some changes that uh some minor changes that we had uh asked the staff to clarify on a few things. So, um they're going to be doing that. Um I believe uh one of our June meetings is when that will be coming to uh council here for for all of us. So,
um lot of lot of work. That was probably the last working session we had with the um working with the Mike Lamb and um some of the folks there. So, we've been working with them for over two years on this. So, um was uh last night's meeting
went till 8:30 and that was very common. We've done that probably half a dozen times. Six of the 12 meetings that we've had planning commission I would say minimum over the last two years um have been that long going through this. This has been many many hours of work and that's just the
work in the meetings. Not to even talk about the work that goes outside the meeting. This has been many many hours of putting this um reducing the uh code down and um you know making it more legible in many ways and um just taking things that were in maybe three
different areas and combining into one. It's just it's a lot of work and it's it's um it's going to be a good thing. So we will get to see that here in June. Sounds good. Any questions for Rick on planning? If not, Mr. Larude, the PD
city hall project update. Yep. We opened the doors uh on Monday. Um so the new entrance is being used. The police department have moved into their spaces. Um there's some stuff yet to do. The um clear story work out front. Uh that started on Monday. Uh that that has the
white panels on the the area right over the entrance. Uh the rain has obviously pushed that off for a couple of days. and they started the demo work over here uh in the old conference room and then the um offices along that side as well as the staff bathroom that's been going
on for the last couple of days and work will just continue. All right. Is the street still closed this days they were saying or did that get delayed because of the Well, they had they did we're doing work on it on Monday. Obviously the rain is going to push that off a little bit. I think the original intent was to have it done by
the end of the week but I don't know where that is now. Thursday. I haven't heard it. Should still be open. They had a buffer day in there. Okay. So, hopefully by Friday. All right. Thank you very much. All right. We'll move on to agenda number eight,
board committee and consultant reports. Mr. Evansteiner, the first quarter financials. Thank you, Mr. Mayor and Councel. Yeah. So, first quarter by financials, just give you a quick update. We just got off of the audit last uh meeting. So, jumping right into
2025. Um start off with the general fund. Um tax revenues at 0% so haven't collected any through March, which is within expectation. We'll receive a portion uh in June and then July and then remaining in December.
um interest revenue has uh continued to be strong um nearly 60% of budget um through through March. So um we have a well structured ladder and have a good diversity of of investments. So getting some good returns uh there uh and
overall revenues at 4.18% of budget. So a little bit higher than than than prior years. Um I look back last year around 2% with the community center now reported as part of the general fund. We are collecting those charges from memberships on a monthly basis. So um
community center charges for services are approximately um 28% of budget. So uh ahead of ahead of budget there on collections uh in consistent with expectations. Uh general fund expenditures a little over 19% of budget um through 25% of the year. Uh and then
that does include workers comp uh premiums um which are for the whole year but but really are paid in the first quarter. And I think uh property and casualty insurance came through in April. So we'll see that uh in the next um financial uh
updates. EDA fund um they're largely tied to property taxes much like the general fund. Um one item to note the Rockefeller philanthropy grant that we received in 24 uh we did have some deferred revenue um that carried into 25. So 126,000 was deferred and carried
into 25 and then we'll be spending that on on those uh grant expenditures and that's really um gets to why expenditures are at 40% of budget through 25% of the year. Jacob and and and us and have been working to get those grant funds uh spent. We did get
an extension on on that grant. So they're working to to spend there golf course fund. Uh reminder, no uh operating uh property tax levy there. Uh revenues are slightly behind 24, but we did have a really early start in 24. So
really strong at 571,000 um through March. Uh and then on the expenditure side, um once again incurred the workers comp premiums um and overall golf expenditures at 16% of budget. Um so currently uh at the end of March had
returned about 69,000 of income for the first quarter. So good start to the year. Water fund revenues consistent with typical first quarter. Um water use slightly ahead of 24 revenues are around 17% of budget um and expenses uh at 17%
uh as well. And then on the wastewater side have domestic uh domestic wastewater. um they're a little more consistent. Um their uh sewer is at 21.3% through March. Um and then on the
expenditure side, um definitely have uh some capital spend that carried over from 24. So um you've seen Chris, he's brought a few wastewater projects already this year. So you'll see those continue to flow in as we as we get some of those projects wrapped up. So, so
definitely um expenditures are are are somewhat um behind budget now, but we'll catch up as the year progresses. Um and then on the industrial wastewater side, uh revenues are tracking as expected. Uh revenues at 25 and expenditures at 13%
with some of those capital uh expenditures coming in as well. So otherwise, um I'd like to make it more exciting, but um it's in line with expectations and uh in line with the budget. So, uh, budget and finance had reviewed the the March financials. Um,
so really no action, but could field any questions. Any questions? One thing I will point out is I don't want it to be exciting coming from you. Let's go steady. I wore red. I tried to make it a little, you know, liven it up a little bit. Appreciate that. Yeah. All
right. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Next up, as Rick referred to, 8 Bravo, I think. Yeah. Sm products company conditional use permit for outdoor aggregate storage. Mr. Peterson.
Thank you, mayor and councel. Uh, so tonight we have a request for a conditional use permit for 65 acres of outdoor aggregate storage at 113000 125th Avenue Southeast or the Semstone property. uh that property is
zoned I2 industrial um which does have a conditional use of outdoor storage of raw materials in that zone. And so how this uh permit started is during a discussion with a contractor staff had about a possible building permit in the
future for sandstone uh staff looked at some aerial imagery from 2022 and 2020 and 2020 um which showed some activity going on of storage and so we let them know that they needed a cup for that. um
some was really um open to that and really flexible and so they then submitted a cup application along with the attached narrative from the applicant um upon notification that they were required to have that. Um as Rick has touched on, we held a public hearing
last night at planning commission. Um there was one public comment which was really just asking if what the white residue was in the imagery that we attached um which was likely just some some residue from the products um but
staff couldn't confirm and so there were no objections or anything from the public. As far as the comp plan um this does meet 2040 comp plan goals. Um that area is guided for industrial use as well as it has uh some industrial uses
that are nearby or surrounding that property. Um that site has access off of 125th Avenue. Um as well as it's served by private well and septic system which city staff did confirm with the Minnesota Department of Health as well
as check our city records. Um so some conditions staff did want to touch on is this is limited to the proposed 65 areas uh shown on the site plan which is exhibit A. Staff did put in there that there's
some flexibility to increase that an additional half acre um if they were to provide a detailed plan if they need one or if they need to increase their space. Um the drainage must not impact neighboring properties. All aggregate must be stored in those concrete bunker
blocks that they have there already as well as the material must be limited to 12 feet in height. Um and then that area must be maintained in a neat dust control manner as well as no runoff is allowed into the on-site septic system.
Um, so with that, staff would be looking for a motion adopting resolution 2545 or a CU for Sunstone Products uh with those conditions. And so with that, I'll be happy to stand for any questions. All right, any questions for
Austin? Seems pretty straightforward. There's no questions. Somebody want to make a motion for resolution 2545? Make a motion to approve resolution 2545 recommending approval of the cup for
outdoor aggregate storage at 113000 125th Avenue for some stone products. I'll second. Okay, we have a motion by Rick, second by Mike for resolution 2545. Is there any further discussion? Hearing none. All in favor, please state I. I. Anyone opposed, state
no. And that motion is carried. Thank you, Austin. Going on to number nine, administrator and staff reports. The farm friends barn community garden fencing donation request. Mr. Larude, mayor and city council members, uh the community garden
was previously located on the property north of the community center which the city sold in 23 for the housing development. staff removed uh the fencing at the end of that growing season, stored it, and we have tried uh for the last couple of years to find an
alternate location. Just haven't been able to work something out for for 24 and 25. Uh staff was approached by Gene Johnson who was representing the Farm Friends Barn. They expressed an interest in establishing the community gardens over on their property that they own. Uh the fence that the city has is
approximately 100 by 100 100 by 40 feet and they requested that uh the city donate the fencing. Uh they will assume all the responsibilities for for maintenance and working with people to to rent plots. And so we've discussed this among staff and we would recommend that the council approve the donation of
the fence to them. I'd be happy to answer any questions. I think it's a great idea. This is perfect. Y All right. Any other questions? If not, someone want to make a motion to make
that donation to the farm friends barn. I'll make the motion to approve the donation of the fence and post from the old community gardens to the farm friends barn. I'll second. Have a motion by Becky, second by Mike. Is there any further discussion? Hearing none. All in
favor, please state I. I. Anyone opposed, state no. Donation is approved. Back to Mr. Larude for the consent agenda. Mayor Coar and city council members, items for approval on tonight's consent agenda include approve the
revised hiring and termination report, approve temporary liquor licenses for the Becker Alliance Club, adopt resolution 25-43, approving an appraisal for city-owned industrial lots for a price not to exceed $6,500. Adopt resolution 25-44 approving
a quote from Ruck Construction in the amount of $10,520 to complete the demolition and removal of the house on the 212 property. Declare the 2019 police interceptor vehicle surplus property and order its disposal and approve pay
request number 10 in the amount of $451,564.95 to Apex Construction Group for the police department city hall project. And I will be happy to answer any questions. Anybody have any questions on the consent agenda? Hearing none. Somebody want to make a
motion to approve said consent agenda. I make a motion we approve the consent agenda as presented. I'll second. Motion by Mike, second by Becky to approve the consent agenda. Is there any discussion? Hearing none. All in favor, please state I. I. Anyone opposed, state no. Consent
agenda is approved. Now we have the bills. Anybody have any questions or want to make a motion to pay the bills? A motion we pay the bills. Second. Motion by Becky, second by Rick
to pay the bills. Is there any further discussion? Hearing none. All in favor of paying the bills, please state I. I. Anyone opposed, state no. The bills are paid. Does anybody else have anything that
needs to be brought before council tonight? If not, we'll look for a motion to adjurnn. I move we adjourn. A second. Motion by Mike, seconded by Rick to adjurnn. All in favor, please state I. I. Anyone opposed, state no. Meeting's
adjourned at 5:23 p.m. Thank you everybody. We do have a executive session next. Do we just want to roll right into it or is anybody I'm ready pretty short meeting so I don't know if
anybody needed a break. All right, we're going to roll then right into we'll call the executive session to order here at also 523. And first up is Mr. Sanders with
the infrastructure grant and discussion. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor Council. Uh, tonight we did a little more homework on the infrastructure grant that we talked about last time. We actually asked the questions following that meeting to
Minnesota housing about what happens, how does this affect private property owners and you know the qualifying housing development, how does that impact on affordability and how does that get required? We also attended a technical session uh that was held I
think that was a couple weeks ago. Lori attended, Austin and I attended. This was a question that came up not only from us but several other communities as well. So wasn't unique to us. The answer to this question, you'll see in this email, we actually got this on the 12th, which was last week. I didn't think we would actually get an answer to this
because they keep sticking to this May 30th date on their FAQs, but this was um straight from them regarding uh their understanding from our question. So, there's no general requirement for construct that the qualifying housing development be completed. That's kind of
what we talked about last time. It's an infrastructure grant. So in this case, you'll see in here since grant funds help pay for the POCU and infrastructure necessary, but not the development itself, there's no program requirement regarding physical completion. So it's not one that they're going to say you
got three years and you got to do it. And again, that relates back to this was confirmed at the meeting as well. The other piece is on uh affordability. Again, you're seeing some pretty big vagueness here on it's not generally prescriptive in regards to how affordability is achieved. Again, this
is relates to the previous one. It's an infrastructure grant. It's going to be very difficult and you can see this in their answers not only here, but from what we heard at the meetings to enforce affordability component on these. That being said, um I know Lori had pulled some stuff together and they talked to
budget and finance about some of these items as well to show what those affordability pieces would be at an 80% and they're still fairly high income amounts. So with that, uh the deadline for this grant comes up on June 12th. um
they'll post the formal and I using quotes the formal FAQs on the 30th which is only 12 days before the deadline but in general what we're seeing is it'd be good to take advantage of the opportunity to apply I guess also because you know I know um Councilman
Hendrickson mentioned this that we're not getting oursel tied into something that we're going to regret later so based on the responses that we're seeing here we don't anticipate that will be the case but we'll answer any questions and I know Lor's we're all here to answer whatever questions you have or
concerns, but we'd recommend kind of moving forward with that and submitting. I I will say our chances of getting it are pretty slim based on the dollar amounts that they're allocated for it and just some of the scoring, but if we don't do it, we're
going to have to pay for some of this work anyway. So, it's a be something that we should take advantage of. So, we talked about two projects. Um, I think if you were to submit it, would you submit it for just the one or
would you I would say so. I don't think you could submit for the other one, but this one based on the scoring that's in the um the scoring criteria and based on what we heard out of the technocid advisory one, that one is going to score
much better than this one would. So we would recommend going with the Lann drive one. Sometimes you you know you want to put more eggs in the basket. In this case single family is going to score at a lower rate. There are points that they
give. I think it's over 12 or 15. I can't remember the number but there are points that they give for denser units. So in other words, they're promoting density units. Yeah. Do you know if there was anything in the current legislation that just passed
with the housing initiatives that would affect this grant? There's the the amount got reduced. I can tell you that. So, the amount went from I want to say it was 8 million and I just found out about this today. Shannon keyed me into it. It's now 2 million. So, again,
that's why we say there it's a pretty small chance, but there's still a chance. But that would be the only thing that I I know of currently. Well, we know we're not going to get the money if we don't apply. Right. Right. That's a guarantee. Yeah. And I on
grants, you know, I know we've had this conversation. This is a strategic grant. It's not just one we willy-nilly thought about and like, hey, there's free money here. It's it's a project that we're going to have to do at some point in the near future. Anyway, the questions that we've got from this are from multiple
multif family developers. And so doing this half of the road will make it even more attractive for these individuals to to come in. Yeah. I mean, my biggest my biggest concern was getting us locked into something that we like you like you said that we would have regretted later. You
get down and it's like, well, yeah, it's $200,000 or whatever, but holy cow, you know. Um so the vaguess of it here and um the fact that you know we're not locking in you know this isn't going
to even if we accept it this is you know I'm kind of surprised that they don't have a a more stringent criteria and maybe it's one of those things the the invisible scoring of it you know maybe they will score it like that but there are some scoring criteria that we've
that's why we say there's a slim chance because there is some scoring that they give additional for certain areas and certain types of things but that we may not meet but again we don't know who's going to apply for sure out of a lot of these. So yeah, it's a it's a good
chance to to get something that we may not have gotten otherwise. And I think one thing to be aware of too is even if you're awarded the grant, that contract's going to have to come back anyway. Legal is going to review it. you're going to review it before anything is signed on the dotted line
and given. So, this is just the application we're talking about. Is most of the prep work done for this or are you going to be spending dozens of hours? A lot of it's done from engineering side. We have the drawings that are done, some of the um estimates that are done. We know the questions
that they're asking. They went through and recorded the whole presentation, which is probably good because some of the questions don't show up in the application until you press press next. So, we already have that. So, um Austin's working on doing that and he'll have he has the word document and the
answers to each one of those so that when it's time it'll just be plug and play. It'll take a little time to put together between them and it has already but the drawings from engineering are already there. Okay, I'm good with pursuing it. Yep, I think
we should. Okay, sounds good. move things forward. Oh. Oh, yeah. Yeah. The So, we'll bring that first meeting in June, June 3rd. Since the deadline is the 12th, we won't have another one after that. So, Okay. Yeah. Thank you. Good. Thank you very much.
Yeah. Thank you. Round table. Nothing. I have one issue. I talked to Jacob and Lieutenant Lind Bloom someday. I think it was last week,
can't remember anymore. Um, getting a lot of questions about ebikes and these things almost wiping out senior citizens on trails and some of these things are going 40 m an hour and 28 m an hour. So,
our current ordinance prohibits motorized vehicles, but state law does not recognize an ebike as a motorized vehicle. But isn't there different like level makes of them or something like like four different classes. So, I asked
Jacob and and Chris to look into it because it's not a good mix to have a a runner, a toddler, a mom with a stroller or a senior citizen or me um you know,
walking. I've heard from a lot of people that you kind of look and you think things are clear. Well, if something's clipping along at 30 m an hour on a trail. Yep. If it's a bike, you don't think it's going that fast, right? But the thing that I noticed more than
anything else is they run stop signs, which is very dangerous. For sure. Can we put a speed limit on the trail if we can't say motorized bikes? No matter what it is, whether you're rollerblading or pedal biking at a mean clip. I mean, can we just say no fat? I mean, that's
really the Well, you're better off running though. You're you're better off. You run 12 miles an hour from a bear, but you're better off having them on the streets. I'll get the bear that's right behind you. How about that, Rick? You're better off having them on the trails than you are on the streets at 30
mph. Well, whatever they go, you know, they're not supposed to. They're not supposed to go that fast, are they? Well, they're not. They're not. But I personally would rather have them on the street. I mean, then they're not to be cruel, but then they're taking their own life into their hands. Well, yeah. No, but that's what
I'm saying. I They run stop signs and everything else. Yeah, but if they're on the street, I mean, I personally have seen it. So, Oh, I got passed on Edgewood one day by one. There's a lot. I'm like, wow. I was in a vehicle. I was not running.
Was that your 12 mph? That was my Yeah. Um I'm like, wow. I mean, is there an age requirement on those? I'm more concerned about the age. No, there isn't. There's a lot of young kids on those things. Okay. There is. And I don't know how we legislate some of those things, but I I
personally am in favor of not having them on our trails and sidewalks cuz it So anyway, they're looking into it. What did Chris say about that? He's he voiced his concern as well, but
is looking into the league of Minnesota cities did some additional work I think last year or 23. So he's going to look into that a little bit more. He he is I talked to another officer the other night and he's like yeah this this is just it's bad and it's something bad
waiting to happen. Mr. I just want to make a comment from uh the park side of it. Um because we're looking at our park or our trails, Edgewood, um the one that I just talked to a the citizen that lives right off of uh Joseph, the culde-sac, and the backside access to
City Park. Uh they're concerned there, but we're we're going to go out and make sure that we've got stop sign posted at the the big trails, not all the sidewalks, but the big trails and the non-motorized uh vehicle signs on all of the trails as well. So, if you if you go out of town on 24, you'll see that
that's that'll be the catalyst for the future trail on 23 and what we're going to bring to town on on 23 here and Edgewood Trail. So, when we come to those intersections, you'll see the stop ahead, the stop and then as you cross, no motorized vehicles at any access
point to the trail. So, we need to do a little bit better job of cleaning up some of our older trails to make sure. So, we're just trying to do what we can to help that out as well and then working in conjunction with PD to see what we can do. Sure. So, just to give you a heads up from the the park standpoint. So, if we say no
motorized vehicles, but if they're not constituted as motorized vehicles, how what does that do to solve the ebike issue? So, Bike MN, I I tried to research this. So, BikeMn is one of the the um they're not a governing body, but they're kind of a they put on a lot of bike rides. And what they deem is if
it's a pedal assist bike, it is considered a bicycle in a in a non-motorized vehicle because you have to move the pedals to accelerate it. What they consider a motorized vehicle is any of these ebikes that just have throttle. If it's throttle control, it's a motorized vehicle and it that's what
can't be on your Even the ones you pedal have a throttle control, don't they? They No, it's it's all pedal assist on that. So you if your pedal is not moving, you can change the level of assistance. Usually it's a zero or a one to to to 10. So if you're barely pedaling and you have it cranked all the way up, you're barely pedaling and it'll
go up to 28 m an hour. Um but that's still considered a bicycle is according to their standards. But the other ones, like my father-in-law has got a fat tire bike that um he has no business riding and it'll go 35 miles an hour. It's a Rambo camo bike. He was going to use it
for trail hunting. Like, yeah, right. And I got on it, hit the throttle, and I was like 35 miles an hour. I couldn't believe it. So, but that's what that's how they define the criteria. So, I've had a couple of notes. I was waiting to for the the chief to be officially assigned the chief, and then I'll
interact with him from the park side of it as well to try and use our research that we have as well and to clean up our trails. Yeah. on our on our ordinance with uh uh the four-wheel vehicles and stuff. Do do they have to have a driver's license
to operate them? The four-wheeler? Yeah. Yeah. It's all that's all road. So, if they're doing if they're on the city streets, if they're on city streets, they have to have a driver's license. Okay. Maybe do the same thing with Well, no.
Yeah. I I don't know. It's I understand it's a can of worms, but you know, the first incident we have where someone gets wiped out with one, it's it's going to be serious. It's going to be a trip to the hospital for somebody or terminal, one or the other,
right? Like I said, particularly running stop signs, it's just not a good thing to do. No. So, I guess I would just be I would just be curious is what what are our options? I mean that's and that's what that's simply what I asked Chris to start looking into. So he like I said
he's going to consult the league. I've reached out to a couple area mayors and it's yeah this is an issue. Let's see what Chris comes up with before we dive into anything. And Three Rivers Park District is obviously
dealing with this throughout their system. And you also have they have of course their regional trail system, but then they have the city parks that are connected to that trail system where it may not jive. And so I think a lot of kind of the back and forth on this has been done. So it's really kind of seeing
what the pros and the cons are, where people are landing. So getting that information together, we'll we'll look for a a future work session to present that. It's amazing how it only takes a couple to ruin it for everybody. Yeah. Well, it started out those little like electric scooters for those are horrible
and the wheels like this big and it's like how are you riding that and now like I said I got past on edgewood I'm I was obeying the speed limit too and they still went right by me so just to give people heads up that's
kind of something that's Yeah you don't see many adults on Oh yes I was just going to say one thing to you I know you had asked um the mayor had asked about you know is it something that could go in the UDO This is just really for clarity for those online.
It's a public safety thing in the ride ofway. So those are really lay in a different chapter and ordinance and so just more for clarity for the board on that. Kind of just a side note. So you don't want me screwing up your UDO after two years. So I I didn't Yeah. Right.
And now we have to do ebikes. No. Right. You took care of chickens. How about ebikes? What about e chickens? It's good thing we had planning commission last night. No. Yeah, exactly. I'd like to see an e- chicken flying past, right? It's probably
coming. It's not a real chicken. All right. Well, does anybody have anything else? If not, we could entertain a motion to adjourn the executive session.
No, we don't vote on anything here. You just adjourn when you're done. Oh. All right, then we're adjourned. My vote counts. We're done. 540. [Applause] [Music] These are still on. Well, I got my niece
graduated. Yeah, my wife always gets the huddle. If you're watching online,