I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> All right. Thanks everybody for being
here. Uh just a couple quick changes to the agenda. 9C will be presented by Mr. Kudson. He will also take the consent agenda and we'll take parks and wreck off the committee reports on number six. Is
there any other changes? >> Uh no public works either. It was supposed to been tomorrow. Never mind. >> Okay. If there's no other changes, I would entertain a motion to approve the agenda as amended. >> I'll make that motion. I'll
>> second. Have a motion by Rick, second by Mike. Is there any further discussion? Hearing none. All in favor, please state I. I. >> Anyone opposed, state no. The agenda is approved. Guests in open forum. We'll start with Bruce Mesel with the Sherburn
County update. Welcome. Thanks for coming here tonight, >> Mayor. Appreciate it very much and I appreciate the time for everybody. Uh I thought I'd just do a quick highlight of a few things, try to get around at least a little bit every year or so, but then answer any questions you have or things
that you'd like additional information on as we go forward. Um and so these are just kind of a poperri of topics I thought might be worth uh sharing with you all. So you had the information. Uh the real impetus was to talk about Northstar. Um and uh the changes there, but of course that's already kind of old
news. So, I'll just give a quick overview highlight and if you want some more information, I do have a slide deck, but didn't want to bore you bore you with PowerPoint tonight. So, uh uh as you know, Northstar is officially done as of early January of 2026.
Uh there's a debate whether it'll be the last Vikings game or it'll be the last Vikings game before the playoff game. >> But as of now, at least it's early January. Uh the commuter service will end that Friday and then the special event service will end either Saturday
or Sunday. Uh we were very concerned about the loss of ridership because about half of the riders on Northstar uh currently come from Elk River and the big lake station. So we really pressed hard on the Met Council as well as Mindot who now does rural transit and
were considered rural for transit um about what why they were basically abandoning half of their ridership and through a long series of discussion uh you know it had to deal with the length of time to get down to the cities via bus uh but they are basically planning
on a bus service to uh terminate in uh Ramsay and we said well why don't you at least extend it up Delk River. So through those discussions we actually came up with an inter interesting pilot project and that is going to be to run a bus starting in Big Lake three times in
the morning returning three times in the afternoon go Big Lake Elk River directly to the Twin Cities. It's almost as fast as the train would be and you don't have to do all those local stops all the way down. So that will give our commuting public here some opportunities. You can
get on a bus here in Big Lake. You can get on a bus in Elk River. You can drive to Ramsey and get on a bus. Uh or of course you can choose to drive by yourself. So uh Mandot agreed to fund half of that and we're going to fund the other half for a pilot project out of our local option sales tax which is what
we were using to pay for the bus from St. Cloud. Unfortunately that bus will no longer run. Um the ridership numbers just aren't there. And to have somebody ride a bus from St. Cloud all the way down to to Big Lake, get on another one and go in, it just isn't feasible. So,
we're going to try for two years. If the ridership doesn't hold or get better, then it'll it'll go away. But given the investments that we've seen in the communities that had these stops, we felt we had to do something at least to try it. Uh the good news is the cost is about 10 cents on the dollar from what
Northstar was costing. So, it's really in line with what normal bus service would be. And there's a very seamless transition so that immediately starting that Monday after uh the closure of Northstar rail, we will have the bus system up and running. So, I'll stop and see if there's any questions you might have on the services.
>> What are you going to do with the trains? >> The trains? That's a good question. I wish we owned them, but we don't. So, MDOT owns them. Uh, I think they will be absorbed by the Met Council and they'll continue to use the trains on other lines. >> Probably just rewrap them. Um, if we're
successful with the pilot project, our goal is to get out of the business mostly because we don't want to be one of the few counties paying for transit. Um, but there is a cost that'll have to be figured out between the mech council and mindot because we're going to be using buses for two years eventually
because you have to have actually uh three buses, five with three lines that will have to be purchased down the road. So, if it's a viable bus route, somebody in the future will have to deal with the capital expenses. Uh, right now they're going to use the current uh places in
Northstar, but that may also change. Uh Elk River, for instance, is thinking, well, maybe a downtown station might be better than the station out, as you know, by Home Depot there. So, we'll see. It's an iterative project, but I'm glad at least that we're trying something. So, that's will be coming.
Um, if you are interested, I do have a heat map of where the current ridership is located. So, you can see the folks from here that are driving most likely to Big Lake and parking there. >> So, I got to believe that. But you're not running out of Big Lake, are you? >> Uh, yeah. The bus will start in Big
Lake. It will run to Elk River. So, two stops and then directly down to Fifth in Marquette in Minneapolis. >> Yeah. So, again, if that is of interest, I can just make the slide deck available. So, >> so you said 10 cents on the dollar. So, I think Northstar, if I recall, was
about $20 million a year roughly to operate um total cost. And >> yeah, I didn't break my numbers, but that might be right. >> 2 million roughly to >> Yeah. >> to total to run the bus line. >> We're not running capital. It's actually much much cost effective. Our cost is
going to be about $250,000 for the first year. A little bit of inflation the second year. So if you double that, you're you know $500,000 range. Yeah. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. Okay. Uh second thing just to note, uh data centers. Uh I think you're
aware, but uh if you're not, uh the county board has made data centers a priority. We want the legislature to revisit um what they did last year to effectively kill the data center market. Um and so we're going to be working uh in concert with uh some other counties
that are feeling the same way to see whether or not we can get the legislature to revisit it. Um the reality is there could be several iterations to that. Uh, I think the most viable might be to consider communities in transition, of which there are, I think, nine counties and a couple more
cities, and to have them be eligible for some sort of an exemption to allow them to continue to market given that we put 10 years into our effort and saw it disappear basically overnight. Um, now we know there's other issues with water and those type of things, but I think as
long as we have a willing uh energy partner and we have land and we have infrastructure and assuming the city has some interest still in putting something there, uh we don't think it's a bad idea. Uh so if uh if that's of interest again, we're going to start pursuing that and work on legislation. Obviously,
we're working with Representative Meekland and Senator Matthews on that. >> Are you forming a lobby group or what when you what what are you doing exactly? Yeah, we uh we've requested that the Association of Minnesota Counties uh take it on as a as a legislative position. Uh we're also going to work in our group and called
Micah, so Minnesota intercounty association. Uh but if we do get it, uh uh our commissioner uh uh Greg Felber is now chair of the energy transition advisory committee. Uh we are going to pursue it through that group as the lead
agency and make it an ETAC. Very late in the legislature last year, there was a bone thrown out, which was, well, we'll exempt Becker if we can get all of the things we want. And both Shane and Andrew were quite suspicious of what that really was about. So, I think we're going to smoke that out and see what
that meant. But, if we do it with all energy community transitions or those communities, it it at least protects our interest a little better. So, now there might be some other iterations. maybe replace the exemption for sales tax on energy with a energy consumption tax.
And there's a little bit of interest in that because otherwise we will have a fiscal note that is going to say the state's going to lose money. Now, I debate that because how do you lose money if you're not going to get anything built? But that's not the way to calculate it. So, if we replace it
with a consumption tax, the state could still be made whole and there could potentially be an additional revenue stream just like we share some of our other taxes with cities and counties that are host communities. So, there should be some iterations and I think we'll reach out to the league at some
point, but right now it's county driven. >> But the usage tax, isn't that going to be just as bad? Well, I think what we would argue is you get rid of the exemp you get rid of the mortorium on the exemption on sales tax. You put that back in as an economic incentive and
replace it with let's just say a 25% charge on the energy consumed. So it's be similar to a right now we have a solar power production tax. It would be very similar to that. So those data centers right now if they say they're going to lose 100% of the exemption
would say theoretically they'll lose 25% of the exemption. So we still would be competitive but there would be revenue brought in to make the state whole and compensate the communities. So that was some of the thinking going into that. Skeptical or worth exploring?
>> Yeah. >> Well you're still talking >> that's why we're vetting it, right? >> Yeah. Uh the I mean the amount that they lost just from the sales tax amount I believe was about 160 million a year. So talking 40 million that's not any one entity that's divided up amongst all of
them but still $40 million a year. So if you're the state, you're going yes. But if you're, you know, if you're the if you're, you know, Google or Facebook or whoever, you're still that's still millions. And that's uh >> yeah, the way we looked at it as, you know, is one of these uh hyper centers
would eclipse that 170 million. I mean, they really shorted the state out of that future development. If you aren't watching like in Fargo, you know, Harwood just approved one and we just saw the one go in Hermantown. the ones that are still going, I mean, they're going to be significant game changers.
It's going to be the Shero of the 1950s. It's just going to be in the 2020s. >> So, >> just not in Minnesota, unfortunately. Well, and what's interesting is we have a a second issue with that and that is that uh the county board has taken a position that they would like to have the state remove the moratorium on
nuclear energy which might solve the concern over the data center because a micro uh reactor like we've had in our military uh ships for 70 years or what are now considered uh small modular reactors which are about the size of
semi-truckss. These are fourth and fifth generation technologies that are available today that could easily be packaged with a data center and wouldn't be consuming energy that we're concerned about or that you're hearing. So there's a lot of interesting opportunities here. And of course, as you know, the very
first commercially viable nuclear power reactor in the state of Minnesota was where? >> Elk River. >> Elk River. Yes. And it was owned by a rural electric cooperative. So it's very interesting that we were in fact the energy county and Elk River
calls themselves the energy city for a reason and being a you know a neighbor to a power plant. We haven't had a lot of issues in 50 years. Um we really feel that the technology if it's safe and reliable might be something to revisit especially if you're concerned about base power and uh and we know that wind
and solar have some have some challenges. So, uh, I don't know where you fall on that if you've discussed it, but I just want you to be aware the county board is really embracing that and is have asked all 87 counties to join in that effort. So, we'll see where that goes. >> Yeah, it's on our executive session
after tonight for discussion. >> And if you need any more information, please let me know as well. We just reached out to all of the counties and again, I haven't shared with the League of Minnesota Cities yet. Uh, real quick, couple other things. Uh, Highway 10 and 11 is still going to be our priority road project. Uh we obviously know, you
know, your focus is here to the west. We'll just say ours is to the east. Uh and so we'll be very keen on trying to line that project up. Just like as we're starting on the overpass in Zimmerman, we hope in about 5 to 10 years we'll be starting on the overpass at uh County
Road 11, which then will actually become uh a trunk highway 25 business route is what it'll be. >> So the state is amendable to having us turn that back to them once we upgrade that. And so you'll have 25 going up into town and Big Lake and then 25
business coming to where it is now. So make it better, safer uh for the traveling public, probably cost that time 75 to $100 million. So you can imagine we're out in DC trying to see if we can line that funding up. Took us about 15 years for Zimmerman. So we expect the same timeline for that
project. Uh last couple of items are budgets. Uh the good news, bad news is like you, we face a lot of what are called unfunded or underfunded mandates. Uh 1.5% or 1.4% of our levy increase is specifically pass through requirements that we took
on from the state. So we're at a 6.49% levy increase or about 1.4% higher than we wanted to be. Um we think next year's going to be worse. uh this the federal shifts in uh SNAP and uh and Medicare
will hit counties directly and Minnesota has several new programs coming on board including what's called the act which is the Minnesota African-American Family Preservation and Child Welfare Disproportionality Act. In other words, about 90% of our current clients will
have to get affirmative intervention, which means I will be responsible for driving kids to school, picking them up, getting them to their doctor's appointments. Uh we basically become the family for children that we intervene in. And the state is giving us this much money. So for us, we're looking at at
least $2 million, probably have to hire another dozen county employees. And that's all an unfunded mandate that we're facing. So very frustrating because the that's the reality. Uh and then when the feds are added to that, you can see we're looking at a very very tough couple of years to ramp up to
these new mandated uh jobs that we have to do with no funding. Um marijuana and tobacco. Three years ago, I would tell you about enforcement of marijuana laws. Now I get to tell you how they regulate marijuana business. So the good news is, I guess, since you're in your own uh
your your own business, you get to handle yours. But in the rest of the county, absent Elk River and uh and the city of Baldwin and St. Cloud, we manage the rest. Uh we've only had one business come in for a license. We have another one kicking the the tires right now on a location, but we haven't seen this
onslaught of new businesses. However, the reason I raise it is don't forget, and I hope that you guys are fully on board, is with the low potency hemp edibles that now is going to get rolled into. So the businesses that are currently selling those hemp derived
products now fall under the same licensing and regulatory authority. So we're busy getting ready for our area that's going to take that on. I'm sure that Greg and your your chief are probably looking at that as well. So that's a new like, oh, here we go. And once again, broken record. The state said you get to share in the revenue
from these things. Then the state said, sorry, you get nothing. So, we're getting none of the revenue from these new businesses and all of the obligations. Uh, so quite a challenge. On the heels of that, we are looking at the tobacco ordinance. Uh, we have not updated our ordinance for several years.
You need to do so. Um, the reason I flag it, however, is not necessarily traditional tobacco products. We're very, very concerned about what's happening with EIGs and with vaping. We're seeing them show up in middle schools, elementary schools, let alone high schools. and what's in those
products is absolutely scary. So, if you're at all in involved with substance abuse prevention or the SUP coalition, uh you know exactly what we're referring to. So, we're looking at tightening the regulations around access to those types of products, not the traditional tobacco
products. So, that will be rolling out. We expect we'll have a full house in November because the tobacco industry has decided that any change is bad. Um, even though it's pretty clear those particular products are specifically targeted just like cigarettes were for a while at kids, you know, when you look
at the flavored vapes and how they're done, we know where they're they're going for their future market. And then last but not least, I just want to let you know the county board is super supportive of efforts with the post office and want to know anything we can do to help with that effort. Uh, we're
there to to do so. We discussed it today. We uh thank you for the ability to put a letter in to weigh in on behalf of both cities uh with the challenges of of making sure we keep postal services here. And the county board wanted me to make sure you knew that uh from this morning's discussion. So with that, uh
mayor, I'll stand for any questions you have or comments or anything I can take back and work on on your behalf. >> I ask my questions. >> Well, thanks for the help on the post office. We need all the help we can get. >> Yeah. No, we definitely feel that. And
uh you've got some very two ve actually it's ironic you have two very strong advocates on the county board. Uh one being obviously Greg, but the other one is is Ryan. Um she's a very very local uh strong local advocate and she understands the power of having a post office for your businesses and your
access for everybody. So uh they're uh they were really tight on it today. So >> great. Thank you. >> Thank you for your time. >> Thank you >> guys. Have a great night. Is there anybody else that wants to address council tonight?
All right, we'll move on then to number six on the agenda, committee reports, presentations, and awards. Then we'll start with Becky and the police committee. >> Um, we met on October 10th. Um, we
talked a couple things which one we'll actually see on our exact session tonight. um about the sergeant position we've kind of been talking about and just the calendar and all that we'll see later. Um we also had an update on our
full-time position. Um he has accepted. He's very excited but we're he's just in the background phase right now so can't you know legit put him on schedule yet but everything's going to go good there. Um we talked about some contract discussions with Axon body cam replacements.
Uh the calls, they've been very steady, so that's good and bad. Um and just always look at social media for the funfall events that are coming up. We have the doughnut drive-thru coming up on the 13th. And then I know Chief is going to put
together something probably in December for like coffee with the chief. So kind of look for that. And that's about all we did. And we'll also be talking about the squad purchase which is under 9A today under reports. >> All right. Any questions for Becky?
>> You're up again for personnel. >> Personnel met same day. Um very similar. We're talking we talked about the sergeant update which again we will talk in the exact session and we just kind of were just updated again with the new Minnesota paid leave and just kind of where we're at because that needs to be
done by January obviously and that's about it. >> Great. Any questions for Becky on personnel? Move on to Robin with EDA. >> EDA met um a week ago yesterday. We talked about the housing RFP that is
being reworked and will go to planning before it comes back to EDA. We had an update on a small parcel in the uh industrial park that is on our consent or our uh exec session tonight.
And uh that was about all we had. >> All right. Any questions for EDA? Then we'll move to Rick with the fireboard. fireboard. We met last night. Uh we discussed um uh we discussed Red Path a little more. As you know, we've
been uh having um issues with them ongoing, not just a one-time thing, but uh very much an ongoing uh we'll call them quality issues. Um uh there was a meeting with them a little less than a month ago. Um let's
see. And uh you know when when you when you get a vendor you know that's maybe not performing as well you're you're looking for you know them really to step up at that point and say you know hey you know not only do we own it but here we're going to you know we want to earn your business and um that didn't happen
I guess. So um it was kind of the call it the hell Mary is kind of the last shot. So, um they are still our vendor today, but um we are uh going to start meeting with or some of us are going to start meeting with um other potential uh
vendors to replace them. Um and we'll just we'll see where that goes. So, um we also talked about uh paid leave as, uh everybody hopefully is talking about that if they're not already. Um and fire departments are not exempt on that. So,
um, we kind of talked about how that would, uh, affect us. It's not going to be as as much of an effect at the fire department as it would be in in other areas, but, um, just kind of what are the things we have to do and, um, you know, dates for that, things like that, postings that have to be made. Uh, fund
balance policy. We, um, that was brought up a few months ago and we looked at a, um, we had a draft last night that we just, uh, um, basically approved with some changes. And so um is that coming back over Tim or was that >> No, that was approved.
>> Okay, that was what the change said. So um basically the the nuts and bolts would be the 50% um is the number that we'll uh start with. So um you know as a as uh most government entities we you know only take in revenue basically
twice a year. So important to just like here at the city um important for us to um you know have money to go those five 6 months um until until uh money comes in. So um it's good to finally have a policy there. It also addresses uh what
to do with overages and shortages as well. Very similar to ours. Um we used ours as a one of the models um when we were looking through it. So, um the grass rig that we've been talking about for quite a while that uh I believe they were going to pick up the chassis today.
So, um that would be I think it was a Ford F550 and then from there you deck it all out with all the fire equipment. So, um the chassis would be you know minus the fire equipment. the the base pickup. Um so they were going to pick that up today and then um we did
authorize uh um after it's taken a while here, but when that comes in um that is going to be slightly under budget. I know we um there was a lot of back and forth discussion on that. And so um working through vendors now, we uh um thinking possibly within the next, you
know, by the first of the year even, but maybe shortly after it'll be back with everything on it ready to go. So, um, that one's been a long time coming. >> That one's been a while. >> Mhm. Yes. So, um, we're we're getting there. Uh, that was all that's all I
got. >> Okay. >> All right. >> Any questions for Rick with the fireboard? All right. We'll move on to public hearings. Certification of delinquent utility charges and weed grass removal charges. Mr. Evanser.
>> Thank you, Mayor and Councel. Um, so I'm here for the public hearing. Um, if you wanted to open it on the front end. >> Yeah, that sounds good. We'll open the public hearing at 5:24. >> All right. Give you a little bit of background. So, uh, we did call for the
public hearing on October 7th. Um, the city uh, for utility charges, um, the city's allowed to um, certify delinquent um, delinquent water and sewer charges. Um, so we look at it as uh amounts over
60 days past due and owing over $50. Um, we not uh mailed out notices October 8th. Um, so we did send out 82 notices. I think we sent out a total like 89. Some were to a owner owner tenant, but
we had 82 properties for a total of $25,833. Um, as of today, I did an update. We have 61 remaining properties for $22,385. So, we'll uh take payment uh through November 21st at 430. So, right around
30 days uh to take payment. So, staff have been answering questions and and uh working with um residents as they call in um to pay. Um exhibit A is attached. That includes all of the uh properties that were outstanding as of the date of this memo. We'll continue to cross off
as those payments come in and then um we'll send the final um listing to the county um in late November. Uh with that, we also have the weed and grass. Um here I think we had a initially like 19 properties. Um all of
those have been paid uh other than one. Um so exhibit B will have one property on there and also take payment through November um 21st. Um and that was for work completed uh early June by staff. Uh initially there was um invoices mailed out. Um when those weren't paid
then we mailed out subsequent invoices related to the assessment. Um and that's about it all I have for the update. Um so with that um okay so the public hearing is open. Is there anybody here that would like to
address council regarding the weed and grass or delinquent utility charges? appears not. So, we'd entertain a motion and second to close the public hearing. >> Make a move. I make a motion we close the public hearing. >> Second. Have a motion by Mike, second by
Rick to close the public hearing at 5:27. Is there any further discussion? Hearing none. All in favor, please state I. >> Anyone opposed, state no. >> So, that closes the public hearing. And now we have a couple resolutions. >> You bet. Yep. would ask for a resolution
2575 to certify delinquent utilities and 2576 um certifying delinquent weed and grass. >> All right. So, we're looking for a resolution 2575 which certifies the delinquent utilities to the tax roles. Do we have a motion for that?
>> A motion. >> Second. >> We have a motion by Becky, a second by Mike. Is there any further discussion? >> I'll just add a comment like we always do. Um staff our staff are really willing to work with folks. So, if somebody's, you know, somebody's in a position where they, you know, you need
to reach out and set up a payment plan or whatever, staff are really willing to do that, but you got to call. So, please, uh, if you're in that, if you're in that spot, please, uh, please call. >> Yeah. Very good. So, we have a motion, a second. Do we
have any further discussion? Hearing none. All in favor, please state I. >> I. >> Anyone opposed, state no. >> That carries. Then we're looking at resolution 2576 which certifies the weed and grass removal charges to the tax roles. Do we have a motion?
>> I'll make that a motion. >> I'll second. >> We have a motion by Mike, a second by Robin. Is there any further discussion hearing? None. All in favor, please state I. >> Anyone opposed, state no. >> That motion carries. >> Very good. Thank you.
>> Thank you very much. >> All right. Now we're on to number eight. Board committee and consultant reports pond lining project on the whole number four pond. Mr. Kua, good evening, mayor and council. Thank you for the opportunity tonight to
discuss resolution 2580 for a potential pond liner on the championship course at Pebble Creek. Um, as you likely recall during our capital improvement planning, uh, we had discussed um, the prioritization of lining um, some of the
water features on our course. Uh, this particular one is a whole four of the championship course. So, it's a par three on our front nine. Um, as we discussed and as we've talked with internally and I stand up here also on behalf of our core superintendent, Jason Sharen Campamp, who wasn't able to make
it tonight, but um, we actively maintain the water for the aesthetics features of of that particular pond um, where we're flowing water to maintain that water level um, at a really high rate and we're experiencing a lot of water loss from it. Um, so just as trying to be a
good steward of our environment and also minimize the wear and tear on our uh irrigation infrastructure, our wells and our pumps, um, we can take a a high burden off of that equipment um, by lining uh, with uh, um, with a PVC liner
um, that particular pond and it's got a lot of merits to it. So I just want to talk a little bit about that project. Um we are looking at opportunities uh to kind of coordinate with our streets team and other uh capital planning regarding um some road improvement projects on on
Edgewood Drive as well as 23. Um there's going to be a need if those projects move forward um as as soon as next year to take on more storm water. And this actually location is mutually beneficial because it it would benefit Pebble Creek in the way of maintaining um our
aesthetic pond features and also be the most cost effective way to have that water captured within the street system. Um so what uh it's something that we had planned for for 26. Um, I stand with before you tonight because we're looking
at the opportunity with the course closure, which hopefully isn't imminent and we're going to get some nice warm days ahead of us. Uh, but the opportunity to do some winter work uh potentially later this fall uh should this be approved. Um, we really want to be careful about disrupting any of our revenue. Um, the impact on the player
experience. you know, a project like this um does have an impact around the surrounding holes and this particular one being a par three, there really isn't an opportunity to do a temporary green. So, um wanted to talk with you uh tonight about the opportunity to maybe move forward yet this fall on this
project when it won't be as impactful. Um we've had good good conversations with uh golf committee as well as our internal finance team and and the and and streets on on the merits of this project. It's something we feel really good about. Uh but wanted to have a
discussion with you folks and see if um if you had any questions um as to the you've probably seen it as you're driving up 23 on hole 10 pond. Um we have been stop we have stopped actively filling the ponds uh for over a month now and you can really see how much
water loss there is just naturally. Um so we'd be taking this LPDE liner. It's a 30 mil. Uh Mike, I know you had a question at golf committee uh regarding is that the proper weight for the liner in all of our research and talking that is really the appropriate one. Um we've
got liners in other ponds on the course property that were installed in 8788 that are still really really effective. um in addition to the donated liner that we had a num uh four or five years ago from Northern Metals which our staff put
in um on hole 14 and that one was a little bit roughed up because it had been laid out, bundled up and then transported. Uh but it's done an amazing job in holding the water. We don't have to actively maintain that water level at all. Um so moving forward on this would
have a benefit obviously to um the potential streets project to the aesthetics of our course minimizing the wear and tear on our pump infrastructure um and and uh really set us forward for 30 40 years to go uh ahead of us for
that. So um wanted to see if you guys have any questions regarding resolution 2580 um at the end looking for a motion and a second to adopt the resolution. Uh this would be funded out of our CIP. We're just asking for the funding a little bit early uh to minimize that potential
impact on playability and the guest experience. Um but with that said, I'd open it up for any questions. Great. >> I don't have any questions, but I'd like to add that this particular pond has been a headache since day one, and this should take care of the problem
completely uh for many, many years. And we've spent money putting clay liners in and everything. This should have been done in the first place, but how do you know? >> You know,
>> and committee was in favor of starting the project earlier than so that we could get it done uh for next spring. >> Sure. >> So, when you when you talk about uh the street project in 26 with Edgewood there, so we're going to be capturing
storm water and putting it into um multiple ponds, I'm assuming. >> Yes. Yep. Um and we've we've budgeted at $185,000 for um this pond lining process um including whole 10. Uh we didn't want to take on whole 10. It's the closest
proximity to where that water would be coming into the system because uh we're still running engineering um with to determine what those flow levels would be in different rain events. Um four is a very safe place to start because it's down the line a little bit. Um, and I I
should have mentioned earlier too, um, in the quotes, we received the three quotes. Um, we do have, uh, potential savings that we're we're looking at with our public works, uh, department as well. If you look through the bids, you have kind of the the liner work and then what they do is they dredge out some
organic material, you know, pull all the water out of the pond. So, we would actively, you know, pump out all the water, dredge out, lay the liner down, and then put material back on. Um, so what you've seen in those quotes, um, anywhere from 20 to $30,000 of depending
on the the bidder to put the material back on. Um, it's something that we've talked internally that we believe our staff has the ability to do that. So, we're asking for the full amount, just not knowing exactly if we're going to go that way, but it's certainly our intention to um to lower our expense on
that if there's opportunity where our staff can do that last um la last step of the project. If we do the installation, does that affect the warranty at all with with what they're doing with the liner? >> Um, it wouldn't cuz we wouldn't actually
do the the installation. It would just be the, you know, as you dredge out the organic, we'd set it to the side, lay it on, and then put that back on top to kind of weight down the liner. It'd just be that last step that we'd be looking at doing in in house.
All right. Any other questions for Josh? If not, would someone like to make a motion for resolution 2580, a resolution approving staff to contract DW companies to install pond liner on Pebble Creek hole number four? >> I'll make that motion.
>> I'll second. We have a motion by Robin, second by Mike. Is there any further discussion? >> Hearing none. All in favor, please state I. >> Anyone opposed, state no. Motion's carried. Good luck on your project. >> Thank you. >> And now we are on to administrator and
staff reports. Chief Lindlum has a police department squad car purchase request. >> Good evening, Mayor and Council. Um, as is pretty customary for me now to appear in October. Uh, the squad car for 2026
is due for um, an order. In years past, starting about 4 years ago, we started uh, placing the order around this time because the lead times uh, we're extending out. Uh, not nearly as much as a firetruck apparently, but uh, it does take a little bit of time to uh, we're averaging six to seven months to to
receive the vehicle and then that gets put on the list to get upfitted as well. So, um, over the past few years, we've started, uh, making this order in October, and usually we receive the the squad car right around May, June, um, and then get put in line for, uh,
upfitting. So, with that being said, uh, 921 is the 2021 Explorer that we have currently that's due for replacement. Uh it has 115,000 miles and uh based on our current driving trends, we'll be at about at least 130,000 when uh the new
car is in, which is uh very very high for our squads. We don't we don't usually get uh that high. Um typically right about 100,000 is where they're at when we start to get rid of them. So the hope is that we won't incur a whole lot of nickel and dimming that between now and arrival time. Uh but uh you never
know. So, uh, that being said, we did receive the current spec sheet for the squad car, uh, for 2026 model year. Uh, after filling out the spec sheet, which was attached to your council packet, um, it's identical to our squad cars that we got, uh, in 2024 and 2025, uh, came out
to $45,8734. Did want to make an important note that is $36 less than last year. So, >> I thought that was a big win. So, make sure I put that in here. So, um that does not ever happen. Uh so that worked
out pretty well. Uh we do have $65,000 designated in our CIP for that squad. Um that is of course including everything that we need to do it. Um computers, equipment, and the upfitting, graphics, everything like that. But uh this will get us get us uh in in the position to
be ready to set that squad up come about mid year next year. Um that being said, if anybody has any questions, I'd be happy to answer them. Otherwise, I'm looking for a motion, a second to approve the purchase of our 2026 squad car, which would be identified in
resolution 2578. >> Are they still predicting as much time to get it as what it has been during CO? >> Yeah. Uh, well, so it's been that since CO Yes. I did ask uh the upfitters the other day if they're hearing whether or not these are still pushed out and he
said that they're about six months. So, that's kind of about where we've been at the last few. So, >> but the good thing is that we, like I said, we can get in um and then I actually contacted our upfitter the other day. I was actually up there for something else. Had the conversation with them about this order and um they
said that if I call them, if it's approved and I call them up, they will actually uh kind of assume when we're going to receive the car and put us on the schedule now. So, there's a small chance. We typically in the past, like four years ago, um like to have our new car lead the parade at uh Freedom Days
and we're always able to do that, but we haven't been able to do that for a few years just because it gets there after June. So, there's a slight chance we could we could get the new car out and and have it available there. So, >> nice. >> We should maybe make a note. You know, I remember when I first came on council and you'd hear 100,000 miles, you're
like, "What? We're getting rid of a car already? That's like just broke in." But >> they're hard miles. >> Yes. You think of what what a cop car does on a typical day. It sits and when it goes, it goes zero to whatever very fast. I mean, everything >> miles.
>> Yeah. Once they hit 100, we start to we do start to see a lot more of the the maintenance visits. Um, this squad um >> has been pretty good to us. So, um, we're hoping that we can kind of skate through these last six months and and then we'll be ready to go.
>> I would never buy a squad card in auction no matter what. >> Yeah. I've seen how they're Yeah. >> I will say this though, they are maintained well. So, you know, they are driven hard, but we we keep them in >> Well, not every place does, I'm sure. >> Yeah. No, here I mean, we if something's
broke, we fix it. If if it needs oil changes, we're right on on schedule. Tires, all that fun jazz. So, >> all right. Any other questions about the squad car purchase? If not, we would entertain a motion for resolution 2578
approving the purchase of the 2026 police squad car and allowing chief to enter into the agreement with 1040 Ford for the purchase. >> I'll make that a motion. >> I'll second. >> We have a motion by Mike, a second by Becky. Is there any further discussion?
>> Hearing none. All in favor, please state I. I. >> Anyone opposed, please state no. >> Motion carries. >> Thank you for time. >> Thank you. Next up is an encroachment agreement for LTTM Properties LLC
and is it Louise Alen? Close enough. My apologies. >> I believe you said it correctly actually. >> Oh. >> Um. >> All right. >> At least that was my understanding. But thank you, mayor and council. Uh tonight
what we have is um an encroachment agreement and waiver of liability for LTTM Properties LLC in Luis uh Inic. Um this is on the Von Hansen site and this is a step toward the final result of the parcels becoming one um and closed by a
new addition new addition. And so these properties are 12 912 and 12911 First Street Southeast. And so the purpose of this is to allow creating and installation of a retaining wall uh before winter as part of the overall
plan for Von Hansen Snacks to do a 2025 building edition that may go into 2026 as the actual start date. Um but the proposed expansion that they're looking to do would cross the current property lines. So they couldn't meet setbacks
and they'd have a lot of land use uh issues there. And so these parcels are actually going to be under one ownership group uh in the next coming months which will be LTTM properties or von Hansen's. Um so that's the intent there. The addition would be for warehouse space
for them to basically produce more snacks and have more snack equipment in there. Um, and the next steps for this following this application is to do a lot combination and vacation of the interior easements that are on the
property that you can see in the exhibit A um attached. Uh, the city engineer did do a review. He had no no concerns that were noted. Um, and so with that, staff would recommend approval of the encroachment
agreement and waiver viability. Um, and we'd be looking for a motion in a second adopting resolution 2579 authorizing that agreement. >> All right. Any questions for Austin? >> So, you mentioned these two parcels are
going to come under one ownership. Uh, are they going to get combined into one parcel then? >> Correct. Yep. So, the issue that they're having is um Luis currently owns it and they had some sort of agreement for payment and they're looking for tax reasons to wait until 2026 >> and then at that time they'll own the
whole thing, >> but they want to do some of this work now before that happens >> before winter conditions and that's why they want the retaining wall um there specifically, but we did tell them they can't do anything related to the building because of the setbacks and they don't actually own it. So they
can't we can't permit them to build there because they don't own it. >> Okay. But this will allow them to make more pretzels and more quickly. Yes. >> Than if we didn't do this >> at a much faster rate hopefully. >> That's a win-win.
All right. Any other questions for Austin? If not, we would entertain a motion for resolution 2579 authorizing an encroachment agreement and waiver of liability for the Bon Hansen's project. >> I'll make that motion.
>> I'll second. We have a motion by Robin, second by Rick. Is there any further discussion? Hearing none. All in favor, please state I. >> I. >> Anyone opposed, state no. Motion carries. Thank you, Austin. All right. 9C agreement with state of
Minnesota for federal construction projects. Mr. Kudson. >> Good evening, mayor and council. Uh the city became a m municipal state aid city in 2024 and as a result, the city receives funding for streets dedicated as municipal state aid streets. In addition, the city also
works directly with the state for projects where federal funding is involved. uh in July of this year uh you guys pass uh passed um a resolution for the planning work at the intersections of highway 10 and 25 um and this is similar to that this agreement is
required um it's a required standing agreement between the state all state aid cities in the state for future projects that receive federal funding. So our city attorney did review this. It's pretty uh standard boilerplate agreement. Uh just something that we need in place as we proceed with this
project. uh should any federal funds become available and for us to work with the state on the funding for the project. So um with that uh there is a full detail of the contract. Um like I said, legal did review it, but if you have any questions, I can uh attempt to answer those as well.
>> All right, any questions for Phil on this agreement? Just hope we have to jump through if we're going to spend federal money. >> Exactly. Y. >> All right. We'd be looking for a motion on resolution 2577 approving the
agreement between the city and the state for federal road funds. >> I'll make that motion. >> I'll second. >> We have a motion by Rick, a second by Mike. Is there any further discussion? Hearing none. All in favor, please state I. >> I. >> Anyone opposed, state no.
>> Motion carries. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. And I think you're up for the consent agenda. >> Yes. First pass at a consent agenda. In front of you tonight, there's a revised consent agenda, uh, including hiring and termin uh, the hiring and termination report as revised, payment of the bills,
council meeting minutes, acceptance of updated city town shared road agreement, tobacco compliance checks, revised resolution 2573, and donation acceptance under resolution 2581. And I can stand for any questions should
you have them. >> All right. Any questions for Phil on the consent agenda? >> Do you want to just say who the uh donations are? >> Yeah. >> Absolutely. >> Do you want me to call those out? >> If you would. Yeah, >> sure. Here. Thanks.
>> They're all three from the Becker Lions. Uh $5,000 for Snuffy's Landing. Uh primarily to be used for additional railing on the staircase that's out there. Uh $2,500 for Cobinger Park uh for a new flag pole and light that will be erected hopefully yet this week. um
and uh to the community center for their Halloween carnival $1,000. Again, all three of those are from the Becker Lions. So, as we mentioned the last few meetings to the Lions have been a great partner for the city and they continue to do so. So, um yeah. >> All right. Thank you to the Lions and it
looks like we had really good tobacco compliance results as well. Everybody passed. >> Yes. I >> think Rick mentioned last meeting that doesn't always happen. So, >> awesome job to our businesses. Any other questions for Phil on the consent agenda? If
>> not, we'd entertain a motion to approve that consent agenda. >> Make a motion we approve the consent agenda as presented. >> Second. >> We have a motion by Mike, a second by Robin. Is there any further discussion? >> Hearing none. All in favor, please state I. >> I. >> Anyone opposed, please state no.
>> Consent agenda is approved. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Do have a couple quick announcements. Um, Saturday at 3:30 we're going to be doing a plaque dedication at the Frank Cobinger Jr. Veterans Memorial Park. I
think I got the whole thing in there. Um, so the public's invited. The the family will be there. They're going to see the the plaque unveiled. Um, that just tells the story about uh Frank, that is my uncle. Um he had a
pretty unique experience in World War II of um storming the beaches at Normandy um being injured um severely injured, presumed dead and his u would be my grandma was notified that um he was
presumed dead and she was planning his memorial service but then he woke up 6 weeks later in the hospital in Great Britain um and went on to uh work at Colinger Merkantile and was actually our postmaster. in town. Um, so
talk about the post office. Uh, throw that in there. So, Saturday at 3:30, love to have you come out to Coinger Park and see that. Uh, we have open houses coming up for the city hall police department, October 23rd from
noon to 4:00, October 24th from 8 to noon, and then October 28th next week from 4:00 to 6:00. Um, there will be tours on the hour. Um, the city calendar will be available for pickup and I'm
told there will be treats. >> So, everybody's welcome to attend those. Uh, reminder, Thursday night at 5 at the TLC at the high school is the local government roundt. Um, so anybody that we set that date at the the previous
one. Um, and I think a reminder was sent and I'm not I'm not 100% sure. If not, I apologize about that. Um, >> I'm glad you mentioned it because I was planning on being gone. >> Okay. >> But I'll I'll be here. >> Well, whatever works for people. Um,
>> no, I'll be here. >> I'll just And a little post office update cuz it just wouldn't be right to not have one. Um the construction crew was in town yesterday and met with Phil and uh even though we were told we
should not pour concrete, they lamented the fact that we hadn't. Um but the the CBU should go up tomorrow. >> So that is going to happen. I was at the post office today. They're planning to put the new keys in people's PO boxes.
Um, I did pass out the the post office promised to keep us updated and they lied. They did not. But on their website, I found the um press release from October 14th that announced the closure starting Saturday, October 25th.
Um, but people will have the opportunity to still get their mail at the community center. There are some larger parcel um boxes there as well. Um, so if if people do get a larger depending on the size of the box, you might be able to
pick that up. Um, and yeah, they they should be installed where we think maybe as soon as tomorrow >> by end of day Friday for sure. >> Yep. By end of day Friday for sure. So, um, that appears to be happening. So,
that's good. Um, no new news on anything permanent, but I did read today that I believe once a temporary closure happens, they only have 90 days to decide what what their plan is. That doesn't mean enter into an agreement,
but it means if they're going to try to permanently close our post office, they would have to notify us within 90 days. Um, so, um, Saturday I'm, um, after, um, the dedication to Frank, I am kicking off a
campaign to save our post office. So, you can look for details on social media. Um, fully admit I'm trolling them this week with pictures of other post offices from around the state, including some towns as small as less than 50
residents who still have a post office. So >> I think if we are a 100 times bigger, we deserve a post office. That's my thought. >> So Mark, do people only have this week to pick up their new key?
>> So I asked that question today. Um even though they're ceasing operations, um the employees here said they will try to be around next week to um still have the the post the mail won't be there, but if someone needs to pick up a key
and turn in their their old key, they're going to try to accommodate that the best they can. So, um the keys weren't ready yet today. they won't be ready until the CBUs come, which might not
happen till Friday. So, yeah, I mean, I would definitely visit your PO box if you have one as often as you can and um to try to get the new key. I'm not exactly sure how this timeline works. >> Lunch time. Yeah,
>> but it's definitely >> I got to believe it's a new thing. >> Yeah, I don't think this is happening a lot of places. You're right, Mike. Um but if you read the letter I I passed out uh that they wrote back to the senators, this is an an emergency
closure because they only had 40 months of notification. >> Oh wow. >> So this is an exigent incident in their mind. So >> I did I asked Grant uh he provided a copy of the letter that he sent to them
in June of 2022. Okay. So that's what we know. But hey, first steps first. We're going to have CBUS here and then we'll work on having people lobbying the post office and our federal partners starting Saturday.
>> All righty. >> Any other questions on that? I do want to uh do a shout out to Phil who went on site with the delivery people and public works staff who are being super flexible and doing everything they can uh to help
this happen and the community center for hosting. So all right anybody else have any announcements? >> If not we would entertain a motion to adjourn the vote. >> Moved second. Right. We have a motion by
Rick, second by Robin. All in favor of adjourning, please state I. I. >> Anyone oppose, state no. Meeting's adjourned at 5:55. Take a couple minute recess and then we will kick off our executive session.
the smaller door. >> Not by the gym. >> It's where the school board meets >> by the administration office. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It's on this side. >> Facing us in the 23.
>> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. It's just a sing It's just a single door, isn't it? >> Yes. >> Well, it's a double door. >> It's double, but it's little. >> It's It's It's smaller than the main entrance. So >> So if you're driving in is on your right is that first. >> No, no, I've been there. I' I've gone in
that way. >> Store right on your right >> before the main. >> No, but if it be to the right and that's where the administration office is there and then it'll be just to the right of that. >> Yes, the office. Yeah. >> So that you got the gym or the local
district. >> Okay. >> Okay. If somebody could stand outside and >> that's at 5:00 >> Thursday. >> I will not be there. Last time we were done.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. But we broke we broke up and had little groups which we might or might not do this time >> hopefully. How are you? >> Great. >> Yep. Let's do this. >> Ask you a few questions. >> These are my favorite.
>> You think Heather would change up? Hold on. Seven. What is your >> I come down to enter the wife. >> Oh my gosh. We've
been doing this for quite a while. space is especially important to their parents. >> Mom and dad care local government. Look how long we did this one. >> Do this. >> All right.
>> So, my question was, how bored were you? >> This was kind of a boring one. Was it Was it boring for you guys? >> What are they going to do? >> All right, guys. >> Heather, same questions for the last seven years. >> We should have them >> cuz it was so cute cuz like I'm looking
forward. go. >> I became interested. I've always been find the right questions. I'm like, I remember them. >> Would they ask you the same questions >> all the time? That's what I've told Heather. We're going to need some new >> like what's your favorite color?
>> Thursday is the only day of the week I don't have anything. What day is >> Thursday when work so I will not be there? >> Did you invite the >> community center [Music]
>> manager? Well, there was what's her name? The >> Brandy. >> She was she was there at the last one. >> Yeah. And it was kind of tough for her because she was brand new and and she didn't have a lot of experience with
what's going on yet. But she did she handled herself pretty good, I thought, considering You want to just put the same number. >> Sorry. How come I didn't get an email on it?
>> I don't think any of us do. Right. >> Right. >> So, in other words, I don't have to come. >> No, no, no. by the uh I was there for the first one. So >> want to be there for this one, too. >> All right, we should get going cuz we
have budget. >> You responded yes for Thursday. Could you make sure Ry's invited? >> I don't know if I know if there's anybody else who supposed to be. >> Are you invited? >> I'm
sorry. There's two of us. Sorry. >> Oh, sorry. >> Well, weren't you at the first one? >> I wasn't at the first. >> I might have been a fake. You kind of leave it up to Greg which staff you think should come because I don't want to dictate that. But
>> we'll touch. >> Okay. >> Well, one of the big issues was park and wreck and that's why I'd like to see Brandy there. >> All right. We will call the executive session to order at 6:03 p.m. Uh, first
item of business is the sergeant position followup with Chief Limblum. >> Your mic's off. >> All right, back. Mayor and Councel, um I know that this has kind of been a really long ongoing process and I think we've kind of reached the uh the end of the
road for for kind of the information I can try to provide for you. Uh first and foremost, just a really quick highle overview as you know. Um two areas that I identified when I started here uh for staffing shortcomings included our investigators uh patrol investigator
position and then um a sergeant position again. So we have some some supervision from our night shift officers who right now um are effectively working un unsupervised for every single shift. Um as part of that uh the supervision portion is
answering questions being on scene with the officers at the time being able to answer any policy procedure questions um or just kind of provide that over oversight for those types of calls for service. Um, additionally, this role can be identified as the second in charge.
Um, should I have to be gone next week's a good example. I'm gone Monday through Friday at a leadership training. Um, there's nobody here um in the city of Becker that, you know, can can answer those questions without it being me as well. Um, and performance evaluations of our employees is important. We want to make sure that our employees are
performing well. Uh right now it involved me trying to watch a body worn camera footage from calls for service um because I don't see these people uh at all um when they're working. So um there's been a a lot of discussion about several of the different factors that I
thought thought were important for having this role with the Becker Police Department. Uh the last time we spoke at executive uh session, we had kind of identified an area that you wanted more information on, which was um the the optics of having three squad cars on at
night and you know the discussion of you know the numbers don't support it and you know what that looks like. So um in an effort to try to answer that question, I I put together a memo to you which you all have a copy of, but effectively I took our current schedule
that we have right now. Um, I went back to January 1. I created a 10-hour shift for a sergeant that would go into the evening like we had previously discussed. Um, that 6 to 4 time frame. So, we'd be gaining a little bit more coverage on the back end as well. And,
um, matched it up with our current schedule to say, hey, how often are we looking at having three cars on in the overnight hours, which is our six to six technically. Um, overnight is our six to six is our overnight shift. Um, what would we really be looking at? So the
the the memo that I had sent out to you included with the packet basically identifies the overall which is um 6 to6 there's 3,276 hours um and this is January 1 to the end of September. Um the number of hours
with three cars working the streets of Becker was 26% of the time. Um I then further broke it down by month because it will vary a little bit. It's obviously based on time off that other officers have trainings and things like that. And it uh kind of es and flows. We
have as low as uh February would be 13% of the time that we had three cars working in the overnight hours. Um up to the max is uh 40% of the time in June um our summer month there we would have u more uh three officers on at a time. So
the important part about that I think is also understanding that when I ran that that was ran with the sergeant working every single shift that they were assigned. So no sick days, no vacation days, no time off for training, um no
flexes for uh court appearances, uh any of that. So I do anticipate that you know have you know we include that time off portion uh it's going to be probably closer to 20%. Uh we do also have night shift officers that are very cognizant of the difficulties of filling um
backfilling that role and I will have them frequently tell me, "Yeah, I wanted to take off this night, but I knew that, you know, our power was off and it would be too hard to get part-time, so I didn't even ask." Um so I think that having somebody in that role too might let them feel more comfortable asking for that time off. Um I don't ever
expect that from them. Uh but we I've got a couple guys that are very good about that. They're like, "Hey, I looked at the schedule, saw it was going to be tight, and uh didn't want to make you stress about trying to find part-time or make something work for coverage." So, um, additionally, I just wanted to note, uh, that wasn't in that memo was that
during that same time frame, I had six denied time off requests for night shift as well, where guys were trying to get time off for whatever it was um, that I had to deny just because we weren't able to facilitate uh, that with any of our part- timerrs and didn't have the
sufficient road coverage. So, my hope is that what I sent out here is, you know, answering that question we kind of had at least at the last executive session was, you know, what does this look like? And I feel like the numbers, you know, kind of lay it out there. Um, how often
is our community going to see three cars working at any given time in Becker? Um, averages out to about 26% max, um, the maximum number. So, um, does anybody have any questions related to, I guess, what I had sent out here or comments
about, you know, whether or not we kind of I hit what we're looking for for questions and concerns, I guess, at least at the last executive session. >> Just a comment. Um, thank you uh very much for putting this together. Um uh I
know like with your predecessor many times we would we would um say push back and you know he would present us with a lot of data like this and so you know this was kind of your first you know time to um to do that but um you know obviously being one of the um people who
expressed reservation um uh at at the previous meeting and maybe in other discussions um I would in my head I assumed this number was probably in the 60 to 80% Yeah. >> Um, and seeing it at that uh 20 26%. Um,
and I'm and I'm not even worried as much about the optics of it, but just, you know, it was just if we were all of a sudden adding a, you know, if it really amounted to adding a third person 80% of the time, I guess that's where it was like, okay, we haven't really bumped our call log, but yet now we just But I mean, when we look at um, so it was more
of that of just adding that that third person that it was say adding I I was always in agreement that we needed a sergeant position that was important. So um having you know seen this and you know spoke with you of course last week and then um with this um I am I am good
with this. So thank you for providing that information. So >> it was uh it was actually beneficial for me too because I talk about these things. It's something that I want right um but I didn't know the answer prior to the question at la last executive either. Yeah, what would that really look at? So, um, it was a nice endeavor
diving into my my schedule for the last, uh, six or eight months. And, um, I feel like, uh, I was a little bit surprised actually by the number two and where it came out. I thought it'd be a little bit higher as well. So, >> other questions for the chief.
So that being said, um so in an effort to try to kind of move forward and plan um in my conversations with Greg about the executive session tonight, um just looking kind of for an overall uh opinion maybe from the council as far as moving forward. I know that at um budget
planning time, we did keep that uh budget item in there for starting midyear for a sergeant position. Obviously, we've got a good amount of time to prep, which will be nice because we'll have to take a look at, you know, how we want to move forward with the application process, what our requirements are, um, and things like that, but um, in an effort to try to
kind of plan for that, would like to try to get a overall yay or nay on how we feel about um, moving forward with the sergeant role for next year. >> I'm for it. I'm supportive. >> I got no problem. Yeah, my my only question would be is
this the best model? You know, we operated under an old model and I was one that said I was not supportive of a lieutenant position, you know, so is is this the proper hours to be working and those types of things. And I'm assuming you've you've looked at
those types of things. >> Yeah, I think so. The hours specifically came from a lot of the internal discussion that we had with police committee administration kind of where do we want to see some of that extra time um for coverage hours. So that's kind of where a lot of that came in. The 10 hours came into play because it's
really hard finding a 12-hour shift schedule that would allow us to cross over both sides of our schedule. Um, and then I do think that the sergeant 100% is a a better option for our department um than than the lieutenant position.
Um, to be out on the road in those evening hours, which mean when I was lieutenant, it started out kind of that way. But um, there's just too many administrative things and pretty soon you're going to meetings all, you know, three times a week and and you don't get out at night. So, uh, the key here is really to have somebody available in
some of those evening hours to be a go-to for our guys that are are working those night hours. So, I do feel that that is the best best option for us. >> Okay. >> All right. >> Okay. Well, I appreciate appreciate you bearing with me for the last few months
um and the dialogue that we've had and uh pushing me to to get that information to you for whatever you needed. So appreciate that. >> Awesome. >> Thank you. Thanks, Chief. >> Thanks, Chris. >> All right, Jacob. Industrial property
purchase. Thank. So, if you recall, we had it would have been So, Jim Husby owns the property on Sherburn Avenue and Liberty Lane across from Todd Potter to the north. It's the lot that has a
little retention pond on it if you recall and it wasn't part of the furniture mart acquisition and all of that stuff. Uh, initially there was a party that was interested in that. They decided not to proceed with buying the
property. And in talking with Mr. Hughesby, so Jim who owns that, he was trying to figure out the best option to what do I do with it? Uh, is that something that the city would be interested in? and the pricing is pretty good. He was willing to go pretty low on
the price uh for the city and we talked about it administratively and threw out a number to Jim and said this is from a staffing standpoint we'd have to get council approval but you know what about 45,000 so this is 1.41 41 acre lot. The uh if you recall the appraisal that we
had completed not too long ago for Potter's lot, it was a buck 54 a square foot. So appraised the assessed value on the property I think is around 86,000 and appraised would have been 94,000. So this is well under what our appraised
value would be for a served property. Um and even if it was unserved was a buck 34. So regardless of whether it was served, unserved, this is much lower than what our appraisals came in. Uh the intent would be if we acquire the property as the city, we would pass. We
wouldn't charge more for the property. It would just be we spent 45. Whoever purchased that as we market it, we would give it to them for 45. That would be the recommendation from staff side. But we do get questions that we know that it would fit a multiple thousand square foot building on there because there was
a lot of work done by the interested party. you could expand some of that with parking. So, it would be a viable site for a smaller business and we want to take everything that we can get in those um over the industrial park. Even the small ones would make up a good
portion. So, what we're asking for is just consensus to see if that's something you would be okay with us bringing back to you at a future meeting for purchase and to talk to Mr. Hughesby and let him know, but it would be 45,000 is what we would do and Mr. Hughesby was
okay with that. It's kind of >> a lot of property already. >> Yeah, I I think it's a unique spot. So, I was really involved with the original people who were interested and kudos to Jacob for
>> letting me know that property was kind of sitting out there. Um, and that deal fell through. But I think it would I think it would be a turnaround that we would it it just makes sense. We would be able to site a business there. Um
>> what happens if we don't purchase it? >> Mr. Hughesby holds it. Um he would try to market it to somebody. I think for him finding a party that's willing to buy it is much tougher than us being able to have it. And for him holding property, it's a financial decision, right? The longer you hold property, the
longer you have to pay taxes. So, I think for him, he's trying to get out of that situation as to why it didn't go with the furniture mart. I I don't know why none of that went. I know I think he's had conversations with them, but there hasn't been necessarily a whole ton of interest in them purchasing it to
this point. So, I think for the city, he's seeing it as well, the city could market it, something we could obtain. We know we get inquiries for it. It is a smaller site, so it's not as big of a buy as some of the bigger ones or some of those. So
>> yeah, I don't um I mean I I know overall I mean our goal isn't to be a landholder, you know. I mean that's um but I mean buying it well under the appraised, you know, was presented to us. It's well under the appraised value. Um I wouldn't even totally handcuff us
to having to sell it. I guess my opinion it doesn't have to be sold right for 45. I mean yeah we get it at a cheap deal. We sell it at a cheap, you know, you get a quick turn around. But I mean, if we sell it for 50 or 55, I we got staff time in here, too. So, it's not like we're, you know, >> I think what we told Jim about, I think
the concern for him and he could hold it and it'd be a while. I think letting it go for well under market for him is something that he was willing to do for the city if it would help the city economically. And so, that's kind of why we had said if we do do something like that, we don't want to just make money
on it for Jim's sake, right? It's got to be a fair shake between Jim and us and whoever the end property >> would be manipulations. >> We didn't say it had to be, but we just told them that's kind of what our thought was on the staff side. >> I mean, I would leave us a little room,
I think. I mean, if we sell for 50, I mean, we're we're covering our staff time and we're not. >> And we could let him know that we may do that, but I want to make it I just want to be transparent with him, too. If I think that would be fair to let him know that's what the council is thinking. Yeah, I I think we should at least
recover whatever it cost us. >> Legally, are there any issues with us getting the land below the market value or so far below that? >> No. Um, typically it's the other way. If you're selling it and you're selling it for way less, then you get into business
subsidy, right? You have to make decisions. Typically, it's if you're giving it to a business for 150,000 is I think the trigger on a lot of that stuff. So for a subsidy hearing, so really even but it's not the other way. Um purchasing is much different.
>> What is the subsidy value kind of to continue on with Robin's question? What is the subsidy value? I mean if we so let's say we buy it for 45 and we sell it for 45. Does that mean that we go by the appraised value of 80 and so therefore it's a you know for 45. So
that'd be your 35 even if you were. And so you're saying if we bought it and we had an appraisal done and we're still sell buying it cheap, >> right? >> Yeah. Is that considered a subsidy at that point? >> But even then, even if it was considered a subsidy, doesn't require subsidy hearing. So the hearing statutoily is
required at a certain trigger point, which I think is I believe is 150,000. >> But it's just something we would have to disclose say in the resolution or something that is >> Yeah, you could do that just to be transparent >> with it. And I think it's pretty manageably explained by we bought it for
cheap. here was our intent behind it. >> Do we have any out there selling lots, right? I mean, that's the only lot out there, right? >> Small. Yeah. And then between that and then the other vacant ones are we have the one on the corner of Liberty Lane and 10, but that's kind of a we won't
say prime, but it is kind of prime on the highway frontage. >> The other ones that we have would be once the um plat is finalized and the land because the land exchange piece is with Potter. So we'll end up with that roughly 18 acres. We'll hold that. But
there's not a whole lot out there as far as industrial that's >> fake a private party at all. That's >> Oh no, no, no, no, no. That's And again with this, this would came in came after the mushroom business approached us. So um Pleasant Valley is the one that was
interested in it, but this all came after that. >> Right. And to be honest, if if they wouldn't have been interested, I don't know if we would have even >> I don't think we would have really said much about it. It sat there for a long time anyway. And so I think without Jim selling and doing the deal with
Furniture Mart, I don't think a lot of this would have transpired if it was held. For sure not. So I think it's a great opportunity. We've had several the mushroom business and a couple others that have inquired about lots and what
we have and you could situate a a nice smaller business there. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Phil, >> I just want to make a comment, make sure, sorry, I just want to make a comment, make sure everybody's aware. I'm very familiar with the property because I built that distribution
center. Um, but that holds a retainage pond for all the discharge water that comes from that distribution center and that full site. So, it inflows there. Um there's an outflow that goes into the city storm system that if that gets too
high, but on that piece of property that is in question, all of that water is going to come in there. I don't think it ever gets >> How does that work then if that's one private party dumping to another? >> That's what's very interesting. That's why when I was in my previous role, I said, "Why aren't we selling?" We we
sold that. I I can't remember. It was a company out of North Dakota that bought that. So, I don't know how it worked with Furniture Mart buying it because the Husby family, Becker Furniture didn't own that. At the time, Furniture Mart bought U Becker Furniture World out, but they've always retained that piece of property. Um, there used to be,
I think it was five parcels, and we replatted everything and worked with Quality Welding and anyhow, but all of that water, I think there's a 30-in storm that goes through that whole property that feeds into this corner lot. And like I said, there's an outfall that goes into the city storm. So if
that over overflows, it folds. It goes into potter and then potters goes into the country lumber. >> Correct. >> So just so we're there. So I just want to make sure it's kind of wonky. If you're buying this thing, do we have to change this flow at all? Obviously at Furniture World, it's like, well, I'm >> Was there an e for that flow?
>> I can. >> So there's in the original. So the city had the right to refusal. If you recall, we had the first right of refusal on that property. And that a lot had to do with the storm water pond and the expansion that was all part of this original purchase agreement. So there was originally
supposed to be the expansion piece that Phil touched on. The outfall goes into this. Pleasant Valley was well aware of the outfall and that it was a private storm water that was feeding into this. There was something in the agreement and I I don't I can't recall the exact
language, but there was something in the purchase agreement or the DA that talked about if at any time in the future the city wanted to tell Furniture Mark that they had to put storm water into the city system that they could, but I don't think that's nec we've talked about that. It's not something we necessarily
want, but it is something that's on the lot that would be disclosed to anybody who's buying the property that there is the storm water pond. We did talk I think a little bit with Randy on that and I think if I recall right I think it can accommodate some of the storm water Austin. >> Yeah.
>> So >> what's a what percentage of the property is involved in this storm water? >> Oh, it's probably I would say it's probably a third.
But you can still fit we've and we know this because of Pleasant Valley. You can still fit a driveway. You can still fit probably a five I think theirs was 5,000 square ft >> with room to expand with parking. So for a business >> worth 80,000 bucks or whatever
>> it's still worth I mean the land value is the land. If you're taking the storm water out you still have to have that anyway. So whoever would be developing a site that's 1.41 acres would still have to do storm water of some sort. So it's not as if you're >> Would it be as big as what it is? >> Not necessarily, but they would still have to do some of it.
>> Charge them per gallon or something. just go on the door and plug the uh >> Yeah. >> Yes. Don't >> the outall. >> And then from a from a city standpoint, we only maintain um inadvertently they were mowing the whole basin and it's like we don't want to maintain that.
We'll maintain our outfall. It's just on the high side and everything else it's it's private property. We're not we're not going to go in there and maintain that. So again, just wanted to bring it up. Jacob and I have talked about it. I just make sure that everybody's full disclosure on this thing. uh where we're going with it. So,
>> thanks, Phil. >> And I think we, like I say, in any sort of agreement or purchase, we would make sure that they're aware of all those stipulations and that it ties out with the original PA and kind of the stipulations in there. >> The property was appraised at 95,000 or
whatever. >> So, we're we didn't appraise that property. We're we're going off the appraisal that's just down the road. So >> that we're per square foot and the which is very recent which I think is reasonable. It's a comp that's really close. It's very similar.
>> So getting a second appraisal I don't believe is necessarily but we're but it's about 50. >> What I'm getting at was that this storm water thing's got me a little concerned. That's all. >> Sure. >> Um is the value still there even with
that storm water? I probably I would believe at 45 grand. >> No, I'm talking about the but you're tagging on as >> right. But what I'm saying is for that price, I believe the lot is still worth that to deal.
>> It's still a good deal is what I'm getting at. >> Okay. >> I believe so. >> Right. And for for the potential people that were looking at it, they >> they thought, "Wow, this is a y >> an amazing deal." It had nothing to do with the land why they didn't go there. It had to do with building
>> it. It was cost >> cost of of the building. >> We worked with them pretty extensively on a lot of different scenario. >> Cost are still high. >> Yeah, exactly. >> No, I thanks Phil for touching on that. I appreciate that.
>> I'm good with it. >> So, we we'll bring it back at the next council meeting for final decision. Okay. Thank you very much. All right. Council member Hendrickson would like to talk about the Coalition
of Utilities Cities Legislative Priorities. Yes. So, this is kind of a bigger discussion. Um, if you recall, I just kind of dropped the seed for everybody a few weeks ago about potentially talking
about nuclear um where our opinions are on that. So, that stemmed out of this discussion here. So kind of a smaller um call it a subgroup of the uh so we've been a member of the coalition utility cities for many years. So um you know
basically as a lobbying group to um you know Excel has a very active lobby presence down in St. Paul and so this was formed as a you know by other cities that have that and um to counter that if you want to say. Um
so this coming year as it was looking at what the uh kind of the legislative priorities are um the the transition aid was a big one. Um that was one that uh through many iterations that uh the coalition was involved in that's now in place. Although as you can see in item
number one there, we do, you know, still need some tweaks on it as uh our finance department will um tell you there. But um so kind of like what are the next steps um to this and so um in in a meeting in um I think it was the end of
August. Uh we kind of laid out um some of the members, you know, we're we're a really active member. Some some members are not really active in this coalition. We are very active and um Monaceel is very active, Redwing's very active. um you know, Cohass and some of the cities up north are really are pretty active
and um and so kind of looking at uh um you know, what are the priorities um you know that we would like to see this coalition um you know that we pay money to be in uh what do we want to see them pursue? So what are the most important things to us in terms of energy uh
policy at the state? And so um that was where the nuclear came up and so we can we can talk about that too. So maybe just kind of some of these um you know if we look at these some of these are um maybe more or less important to us but um the first one I know um finance folks
you will uh um that would be any of the tweaks that we see from the uh transition aid um the current uh iteration of it. there are some uh definite um things they did not consider situations we've encountered that um
that uh you know we're going to lose that again next year. So that's or not not forever but I mean as far as the one unit that's going to fall off. So um I don't think that was the original author's intent but it
happened. So, um, that's, uh, you know, there's there's some things there as far as, uh, you know, is that something we would see as a priority. I don't think that's a I think that's a no-brainer that we would, uh, um, that would be a priority for us to to see that cleaned
up. Um the one the night the so when you think of the the utility city so Monaceelo and Redwing being members of this coalition when you know there's been times when they talked about closing you know Monaceelo and Redwing Redwing especially
um they had talked about closing that um and so all of these cities were just like us they were going oh we might see our you know primary taxpayer close here in the next 10 years. Um, of course, Monaceel and Redwing, both of those licenses have now been extended. So, they are not they're at different points
than we are. So, this is something that, um, they're not really going to look at as much because it's not going to affect them. They're willing they're as a coalition, they're willing to go along with it, but if this is, uh, something we want to see get corrected because it affects us front and center, we're going
to have to have to be the drivers on this. So um so that's why uh um number one is there and it's primarily because of uh us and how this has affected us. So um not uh so then the the second one
would be the community energy uh transition grant. So um Bruce Messel mentioned this a little bit um the uh the CCT grants. Um and it's basically a newer >> here's some info about Luke.
>> Um chat GPT will tell us. Um so um you know this this uh I know we did some work on the 25 uh 2510 um overpass. I believe that was CCT grant there. I think there was some something in the industrial park too where we um did some
CCT grant. Um, I will say personally I mean that's that's great that we've been a recipient of this. This program has always kind of um bugged me a little bit just cuz it's uh um when you look at
the staff the pro this program as a whole when you look at the staffing of it. Um I mean there's uh literally this program was set up to um manage a grant. There are full-time year-round state employees plural um set up to manage
this grant. We had a meeting with them several months ago where they were looking for um because the the funds for the grant got taken away. The grant's still there, but the funding was essentially gone. So they they're like, "We literally have two employees sitting
around. What can we have them do?" And that was kind of the the just of this meeting. So, um they it sounds like at some point they can they do have some power to maybe partition them into different areas of uh deed, but um I
don't know to to me I have a I've this has come up every year where they're like, you know, they want somebody to go testify to this and I'm always just like don't pick me. I'm not going cuz, you know, I'm not the right guy for this. Um, so, um, as a coalition, it's
something they've, you know, it's like, well, if they're going to put money in there, you might as well, okay, great. You know, but it's, this one's always been really hard for me to stand up and say, please do it. This is vital for Becker. No, it's not. Um, so I guess, um, that's just that's my opinion on
that. So, um, we can weigh in on whatever ones we, you know, would feel they like to go forward, but this is this is just one even having been a recipient, I have always had a very hard time justifying and looking anybody in the eye in a straight face and saying
this is this is a good use of taxpayer dollars. So, um the third one there, uh um the carbon, again, one that maybe doesn't um affect us as much because it's biomass. They there there's certain things that
qualify as carbon-f free certain uh types. So, um biomass being the one here. Um uh but like for instance um uh um uh hydro you know hydro does not count as
uh um carbon-f free energy in the state because of the other collateral damage that it does and that it you know makes the the back the backwater net. So um it does on the federal level not on the state level. So, um I know there's we we don't have any dams, you know, that that
actually generate. We have dams around here, but not ones that generate a ton of electricity like they do up in Manitoba where um we purchase electricity from. But biomass being the main one, again, you know, I don't know that's one that we have to champion. It's not really we don't have a biomass plant here. So,
um then the nuclear one. So, um, this one I think, uh, which, um, the county did, uh, recently, Greg alluded or, um, Bruce alluded to it, um, the county did, uh, um, at their, uh, board meeting in October there, they did pass a
resolution, um, uh, saying they're in support of it, and I know they're doing a lot of um, gathering of a lot of the out outstate counties to really, um, uh, really build a coalition here. And it's one that I think I had mentioned it
before. It um it's been tried for years. It now seems like it uh has probably more momentum. Um I think I mentioned uh Leona, who is one of the um unions, one of the main unions um of folks that work out at the power plant. Um if you recall
when they brought the administrative hearing here a couple years ago, Launa was there. They were wearing their orange shirts. They were there in um in uh force. um in in that in that uh wheelhouse the
pretty loud voice. They are um leading one of the char the charge here for um taking a look a new look at nuclear of course because where would those workers come from? They'd be Leyona members likely. So that's their uh interest in
it. Um obviously they have folks you know blessing presence out at Shero. So they would like to see, you know, more folks join the union and have other union jobs. So um that's their stated interest in it. Um they have a meeting
next Tuesday which I am going to be I was very much looking forward to attending. However, um I am going to be down in the land of barbecue and gunm smoke and freedom running through my nostrils. So otherwise known as state of
Texas. Um so I'm going to be down I'm going to be out of state next week. So, I will not be able to um attend. Uh, Representative Mecclin does have two tickets. One's for him and one is for um was going to be for me, but I am no
longer going to be able to attend. Uh it is at Leyuna's headquarters, which is in downtown Minneapolis. Uh next Tuesday, the 28th, 1:00 to 3:30 is the actual program. 3:30 to 5:00 is a socialing
event. So um besides the discussion that is an opportunity that is there for um one of us to uh attend that as well. Um but that was the catalyst for
the discussion I kind of planted the seed I kind of planted a couple weeks ago about um talking about is this you know this this lifting of the right now the nucle there's a ban on nuclear in the state as far as it can't even be discussed. can't be considered a part of any plan. There can be no new
nuclear there is um of any size. So you know Bruce had mentioned the you know nuclear subs have been around since you know the what 60s or 70s I mean that we've been doing active nuclear subs. So the technology of building a small nuclear reactor at a small scale is not
um new. Um but we cannot consider nuclear at any scale um due to a moratorium in Minnesota. Um other states can and we cannot. So, um, do I guess what is our what would be our
interest in, um, joining that knowing that potentially one of those could be cited here in Becker as a replacement because you have the access to the grid there. >> Um, >> the U even if it's a small scale, would they be they'd be under the same
regulations as what Monosel is, wouldn't they? Mhm. >> And they'd also be be federal because you would have FK the um you'd have federal nuclear would be under that as well. So >> that would require them to maintain that
acreage um that but they acquired >> so they wouldn't be able to sell property for for industry anywhere. If if that if they did that I wouldn't think would they? M so the land they're selling
right now is um which old school guys will know this um so once upon a time sh was potentially um going to be nine unit there was there's plans for nine units >> plans for nine units >> y and so um
if it ever went to nine or anywhere close to nine um Excel had started buying that extra property just in case cuz they have a buffer that they have to have and then there's >> that's what I'm getting at So that's what they're selling is just that. >> But isn't the buffer area for nuclear larger than what
>> um right now the I'm trying to think here. The footprint of both Shero and I I I can't say for sure, but I'll say what I do know. Um the the footprint for both Shero and Monosel is 7,000. Um
uh um what we square uh um acres yeah acres >> um 4,500 of which is Shero >> so with Monaceel which is an I don't know if it's by size or I don't know
what dictates >> is bigger than Monaceel >> in terms of megawws yes but um in terms of the uh so that would so if we say 7,000 between the two 4500 is Sho that So that'd be uh 25 um 100 would be
monoso then using that if those numbers >> now they still have that 4500 buffer that is required or is that just the footprint of >> that's the footprint. >> So I guess are you asking if we're supporting the nuclear moratorum lift or
>> Yes. >> That's what I was getting at is debating if I am or not. I'll just speak I do for the simple I mean it's one of the most highly regulated things at the federal level. >> Y >> and
>> yeah I mean just if if we we can support the lifting of the moratorum doesn't mean we have to support the plant being built here. >> Correct. I mean, if we can't even discuss it, I don't I don't think there's enough sunshine or wind to >> do the carbon free.
>> I mean, that that's my concern. So, I just don't think it's a reality without discussing that. And if there's things small enough that a a semi-tra can be backed in next to a data center and plug in, I don't understand how you couldn't
support that. Microsoft um has so in I believe it's it's either New Jersey or New York, it's on the East Coast. Um so when we talk about our data centers and we got into the uh the thing with the um diesel generators being the backups um one of
the plants they or one of the uh data centers they want to do on the east coast. They're actually going to build their own micronuclear reactors right on property and they so you know one of the big issues of course you know I'm sure as you guys hear it when we talk to people is they say okay great you're
going to build this great big thousand megawatt you know electricity sucker out there and what's that you know combine that with closing the plants what's that going to do to the grid well if you're making your own electricity nothing you know I mean that's um if they if if they would if the nuclear mortorium were
lifted they could build their own and even sell back to the grid if they ever had a, you know, an overage. I mean, it could uh instead of being a draw, it's actually a it would be like a little mini power plant. But >> um >> well, I think the moratorum just lets
the PUC keep punting down the road. They don't want to make a difficult decision. They don't even want to have a discussion. That's no way to ever make a decision if you're going to sit down and have a discussion, but say, "Well, but this this topic's off limits."
That's not a discussion. So, the um the issue would come up. I mean, if it were to come down and you know, one of the biggest things when you hear Monaceel talk about is storage, nuclear storage. Um there is no place for the rods to so
when they pull the nuclear rods out that that do that they are stored on site right now the going back to the 1970s there was supposed to be a place in uh Nevada called Yucka Mountain all in there well they've never even legally agreed to it um they are trying
to revive that in a place called Andrews Texas which I've actually been to but um they uh are trying to re go there instead that because of the gridlock in Yuckah Mountain. Um so as a long-term potential storage until they ever solve
that problem, the rods are stored on site and that's um and you know if you ever want to talk about a uh maybe a phase two is uh you go to other countries um France for instance um they're allowed to take those rods, recycle them and reuse them.
We have a federal law that actually says we can't do that here. So we can even though these things are not at 100%, they're not at zero and they can be still reused in other countries do use it. It's it's almost old technology, but we uh don't allow it. So therefore, we
just have to let them sit there. So he'll get me down the road, too. >> My brother-in-law was with the Monosello plant >> and the problem with is the cost. the cost of doing it versus what they get out of
it is why they they're really not that interested in in doing it. But it works great for making weapons. So, as you might guess, I'm very much in favor of uh um even if we talk about
just lifting the moratorum and that's a good point that you know it doesn't there's there could be a difference between lifting the moratorium versus citing a plant in Becker. I mean that's that's a different discussion. >> I would have no problem lifting the mortorium because I it's probably the best source of power that we have
available to us. >> Certainly beats solar panels, I'll tell you that. Robin, you've been pretty quiet. >> No, I Yeah, I'm supportive of lifting the moratorum. Not even opposed to looking at something
being here at some point. >> Yeah, I mean, I'm not opposed to something being here. I'd want to see the >> safety factors and all that for sure, >> but they can always build one someplace else in Minnesota, you know.
So, what's next steps, Rick? Just are you looking for us to to sign an agreement with the county or piggyback or the next steps are really up to us. So, this so this uh this thing by the county board there. I mean, that's more of a statement that they support it. So,
I mean, we I mean, we could do we could do a resolution. We could do um kind of depends on how much we want to contribute. I guess that's um you know if we want to um
see what the county does come up with you know when it's at the county level I mean that's going to be other counties where they're going to be doing that um that effort there. Um I mean it is something we could just you know pass a resolution and then just wait and see
and play you know see what opportunities come about. I mean, at the end of the day, this is a much bigger fight than the city of Becker. So, you know, I mean, how much Becker funds do, you know, is it really, you know, I don't know that a ton of our money really belongs in that fight, but
>> No, but our money's already involved, members of the coalition, >> right? >> I'm not opposed to >> I think a resolution probably would be >> at a minimum. So it says here Sherbert County joined the Minnesota Nuclear Energy Alliance.
>> So that's that's another I don't know those are usually dues paying alliances that >> we could check we can verify it but usually there's dues and associated with that and then there's >> they hire lobbyists is what they do with those dues usually. So, >> so it sounds like we have consensus for
staff to bring us something that would allow us to voice our approval along the lines of lifting the nuclear moratorum. >> Yep. >> Is that open-ended enough for uh
>> Well, the city of Becker supports Sherburn County, right? So, >> yeah, I would agree with that. >> All right. Phil's gonna be learning the playback tomorrow on the tape.
>> All right. Well, thank you, Rick. >> Recycling >> uh round table. Anybody have anything else? >> All right. want to adjourn, >> please. >> Great. >> We'll adjourn meeting number two of
three. >> Yeah, we're on to our next. So, please. >> All right, we're done at 6:49. >> Thank you. >> Do you have any interest in going to the next Tuesday afternoon? >> Yeah, maybe you tell me. >> I can forward you an email. >> Okay. >> So, that's probably what Shane was
calling me for cuz he literally just hung up the phone to me. So, that's probably literally what he cuz I told him I couldn't go now. So, um, >> there's no way I can answer this cuz I've never had a conversation with Shane Mean that's been under >> Yeah, I was going to say you'd still be on the phone probably, but
>> So, next Tuesday, >> I'll forward you if he hasn't forwarded to you already. I will forward you. >> So, the 28 is that what time did you say? >> 1:30 to 3 is the actual meeting and then
uh 3 Let's see. Hey, Jacob, do you have one quick second? I promise it'll be short. >> He did say a second. >> Yeah. >> Okay. What time is that just transition
point going to be done? Tuesday. Okay.