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to order. Stand for the pledge of >> allegiance. I allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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>> All right. Welcome everyone. Do we have any changes on the agenda? >> Um madame chair, there is I would ask that there is an addition added uh for

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highway a speed study for highway um CASA 4 and I believe Jim will come in if you want to put that on under me. >> Okay. >> Yes. He'll speak to that. >> Where do we want to >> right after county administrator? >> Correct. I don't believe he has any

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agenda items is what I recall. >> More after you >> and that yes, those are all the changes that I'm aware of. >> All right. Anyone else? If not, I'll entertain a motion. >> I'll make a motion agenda. >> All right. Any further discussion? All

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those in favor say I. >> I. >> Opposed? Motion carried. Anybody have any minute corrections? Um, Madame Chair,

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um, on page two of four under county administrator number three, motion second to approve pdeium for next gener, it should be motion for commissioners, >> I would assume. Um on same page number

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um under environmental services motion and second approve resolution um well it says it in the resolution but amend tip fees for out of county waste. Not it was just demo waste isn't it? It's not a >> yeah I think it was just demo out of county demo demo waste. is just

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>> um on number on page three of four under zon and planning commission recommendations um on number one this conditional use permit is limited to three years >> um and I asked Kyle to come down here just to clarify

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>> it's and I don't remember is it going to be automatically revisited but it will be renewed at that point >> I believe >> that's what I He has to. >> But the the the thing that you have to make sure or get to is >> are you going to readverti or re

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advertise it make them go through the permitting process or are you just going to review at the board? I think that needs be clarified that three-year permit is it going to be reviewed by the board or is it going to be null and void? >> Is it just three years and then he has to go through the whole process? My

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understanding it was a three-year re after 3 years this would have to be reviewed and re approved. Um but I don't know what the intent was or what the recommendation was. So I think that needs >> I believe the intent is similar to like

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what we've done with gravel pits. How have we done gravel pits before? >> Graits do they have to be re do we resend notice? Yeah, that one on by Ford Detroit that that that Richard supported and pushed.

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>> Yeah. And then I've been loving for it. >> Madam Chair, it it was my understanding that the three years I thought that was like a transitory or or transition. >> It was a probation area time. >> Well, I thought I thought it was only

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for those three years. >> That's that's what I'm >> because he's got other locations >> that they want to go to. >> Yeah. >> Right. So, I thought it was just a three year and then done. >> I I took it as it was a three years. Let's see how it's going

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and um revisit it in three three years. So, I guess we probably should get >> Kyle was going to be down here. I I texted him and and then the other one under zoning again. Um so, he can clarify that one, but he'll need to

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clarify this. and he said this last sentence on the last motion um on number one should not be there. Um so on the last bullet point under number one where it reads other amendments and of the condition listed recorded document are subject to change or removal.

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>> Um >> wait which one? >> Oh he said because I asked him about that. I need clarification on that. He said yeah that probably should that shouldn't be on there. So but he was going to be down here and and clarify those. So that that last sentence might not be >> okay >> accurate.

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>> But that was all I had those but I think we need to clarify those two little. >> So madam chair do you want to just leave this and come back to this? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Well if anyone else has he should be here and short >> anyone else have any

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>> that I had I had those two that's all I had. I did not have anything. >> Madam chair, I added just simple one on page 204. The it's under two reports and correspondence. It's Prairie Lakes Municipal Solid Waste Authority. Just an A at the end there.

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>> I'll make a motion to approve. We got to wait. >> You have to We have to approve it. We have to get the wordage right before you approve it. >> Yeah, that's what I would suggest. Do we want to move on to the consent agenda while we're waiting? >> I jumped I jumped the gun. >> Anybody want to remove anything from the

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consent agenda or have any questions or >> Nope. Nope. >> If not, I'll entertain a motion for to approve the consent agenda. >> So move. >> I'll second. >> Any further discussion? All those in favor say I.

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>> I. >> Opposed? Motion carried. Anybody here for open form? >> Nobody wants to talk to us this morning. >> Everybody talk to us last night. >> Yeah, they did. >> All right, let's move on to reports and correspondence while we're waiting for

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Kyle. Anybody want to start? >> Um I had a I was at a lake association meeting on Saturday. It's the Lake Ida one and and just for reference, Lake Ida has a is a springfed springfed lake. Um and they 20 years ago put a 25 maybe um

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so they had a natural discharge of the lake was just a a creek with just a seepage and then going under the township road into a marsh area that goes to Pelican Pelican Lake. Um at that point they put a the township taxed the

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residents of that lake um to put a culvert in or a kind of a stand pipe with a culvert and that drain so it was a little bit better and then a little cleaned out a channel to get to that. So the height is a you know solid and measured by the DNR and um so that's failing now and they're looking at

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either joining the wershed. So they're they're probably going to some residents are going to file a petition to to join the wershed. there's a process to do that. Um I think I think the process comes to us then for approval for them to jo if that that group wants to join.

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Um and one thing better there's two ways to pay for this project you know best ways for them to pay for this project. One is to join the wershed and the wershed will charge it back and then then get it reimbursed that way and then they'll be in the wershed and pay

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annually. And the second one is they could do like they did the first time and ask the township to to charge the residents on that lake for that over a period of time. Um Lake Ida does go into Ottertale County. So they will not be

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able to charge that group where the wershed could charge Ottertale County because the wershed goes across border. Um, and there's seven or eight properties, but those are usually some very nice properties on this. So, um, I'm not sure which way that they want to

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go, but that just that's the big topic. I had a whole list of things I said, boy, you don't I and I'm smart enough to not I didn't talk much at all. I just mentioned >> about that. I said I about that. I >> thanks for the clarification. all the other things. I I went up and helped

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with the discussion about the watershed, but I said there's lots of things that I could talk about, but I know my audience and now I'm going to let you go eat. So, um I mentioned the wakeboats that that there's a process and three lakes are looking at that and I said I don't support that. I just so they were

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upfront about it and said I would support 300 foot from shore, but that's >> Anyway, um do you want to go back to Kyle right now? He's here and then we don't waste his time. >> Come on up, Kyle. We got a couple of questions for you >> and I and I mentioned you one Kyle. The

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other question we had was the conditional use for the transportation business for storage of homes and structures. Um it says number one the the conditional use permit is limited to three years. So my question was did we

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is that renewed at three years? >> It would expire automatically. >> It would just expire at three years. That's the Okay. They'd have to reapply. >> Okay. I was >> And he was using this as a transition place, right? Just in the interimm. It seemed to me he wanted to use his other sites. This was just until he got his

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other sites up. >> Yeah. He was going to buy a business anyway. >> This is his business, but he's got four sites is what he said. And >> well, it was his intent to acquire another location >> regardless in three years then this will

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go away >> or he'll have to or he'll >> Okay. then that then we're clear on that and just is limited to three years and then and just maybe put and then expire. >> Okay. >> Um and then the last one that last

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sentence Kyle the other amendments to the conditionals listed in the recorded documents are subject to change or removal. Do you >> that could be removed >> just that >> okay >> that that statement um was just listed

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in the newspaper noticed for the simple fact that should other >> discussion >> yes >> for dur during >> during the >> basically we left it wide open so >> that everything was covered in the notice saying anything >> we could talk about anything

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>> we can talk about anything the only yeah it's not just the cubic yards that's being changed here for for instance the BMS. >> Mhm. >> Yes. So, that that can be removed. >> Okay. Thank you. That's all we needed. >> Thanks, Kyle. >> I'll set that up as well. >> All right. With that being said, do we

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>> I'll make a motion to approve the minutes changes. >> All right. We have a motion from Dave to approve the minutes. Do I have a second? >> Thank you. Second. >> Thanks, Go. >> We have a second from Phil. Any further discussion? >> All those in favor say I. >> Opposed? Motion carried.

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>> Back to the reports. >> Um, continuing on reports. Eric and I had uh a benefits committee yesterday and re re we reviewed um the dental dental quotes our dental we we

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had good rates in the past very good rates and I think um it showed that our our loss ratio was about 120% so it was costing the we so we are expecting a about a 40% increase which we found out

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was still better than a lot of other um agencies. So, I'm going to get some feedback from the employees on that. Looked at um um going to they're requiring some RFQS for

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life insurance and longterm disability because the county puts in money to that. So, every five years is we have to put that out for co for bids. Um there's a health healthiest you that we're going to get the presentation on and that that

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is a separate entity that will come and do some health care telecommunication health care for us if and I don't know we'll have to I'm not sure the cost or who how that cost burden is going to yet but we're anticipating a big jump in our

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health insurance not this coming year because that's set but the year after that. So, this is a way that we might be able to um try to keep that increase um a little bit more >> reasonable. >> Yeah. Um probably >> would be that employees would use that

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instead of their insurance because it's just a tellahalth for like >> it's quicker, it's easier, you don't have to go in type, >> but >> and it's sounds like it's inexpensive, but then those visits don't count towards your health

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insurance. If the cost doesn't go against your >> which deductible >> doesn't go against deductible. >> Correct. And then our so our hope is to keep our health insurance usage down to try to mitigate some of the premium hikes that we are anticipating next

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year. And I think this year what what are we at a 19% cap? >> Yeah. >> And we will we will be at the 19%. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's a 19.5 and we were looking at some preliminary numbers and we're well above. Mhm. So, good thing we

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had a gap this year. >> Yes, it will hurt the next year for sure. >> Madam Chair, Commissioner Nelson or Commissioner Gibson um benefits. So, do you guys sit who's presenting in your meeting? Are you meeting with the unions on that too or who's

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>> the then stewards are here for from the employees? >> There's a representatives from each union. So, and then we meet with the broker comes in and presents >> and Tiara and him kind of co-present. >> Is there just one broker or there's several different from several different a

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>> broker goes to all the different agency or the all the different companies that will try to get the best quote from all the insurance. Um, Madam Chair, that we the county has uh two brokers. One for our medical insurance, continuing to look for different agencies or different

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rate um >> and then our broker that was present does all of our other benefits outside of our our um medical. So, we kind of heard two pieces. >> So, this isn't really like union contracts. This is more working together

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to try to find the best, >> looking for the best options for to most bang for our buck for our medical and for all of the other benefits from the county and taking all the input from the employees. >> Because in this scenario, our current dental, we have a kind of a

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unique um program where we have two two options. the the low which is just basically preventive dental or a high which helps offset your costs for um cavities you know bridge all the other things. So so there's two two rates.

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Well that's not really a normal practice for the industry and some some of your big um businesses insurance companies don't like the two so they won't even bid two. So, um he's proposing possibly going to the one system, but in this case, those that had um took the low

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one, the low option will see a significant increase because now it's all would be all lumped into one if those scenarios were the ones we chose. So, >> Oh, thank you. I I didn't know that was happening behind the scenes. So, thank And just just one comment and I heard

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this from a couple employees by switching providers. They have like they have like not specialy services but special you know different services. They had to re re um certify that they needed those. So had to go to their

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specialist doctor even though they were already. So that might be that might be a consideration too. No, that's just a that that that I mean obviously if the cost is way different it's different but if it's been something is similar >> and I know the last two times we've >> we've changed

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>> we've changed it has been because it's been >> cheaper >> significantly cheaper >> sign yeah >> and and that is that is a a hard thing and we do take that into consideration and the committee does try to get as

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much input from employees when when we're making that decision but >> it's it's a tough call >> and Yeah, >> I I think this was the previous one. There was a company that in that dental offices did not take anymore. They did not want to honor that insurance because

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>> um they were having some issues with it and and and there are some dental offices that won't accept insurance patients at all because they're they're more paperwork. Um if you're part of that network, the doctor has to take their rate and some doctors are saying, "I'm full with cash payments. I don't

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need to take less rate." So, um um it's so there's all those things to weigh when when the employees give their opinion on which one which way to go. All right. Um we had courthouse committee. Um we discussed some of the

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well wait we started from the bottom up. So I'll start from the bottom. >> Um that's on the agenda. Couple things on the agenda. >> Um the do domain names are obviously we're in the works of changing those. >> Um the all right the commissioners we're

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going to have to move to two-step authentification for us to go into because there's been some attacks >> we talked about that at finance >> um coming after >> a highly regarded commissioner I believe so um >> a highly

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>> he's talking about himself >> um >> apparently they know who he is >> yes um we talked camera replacement uh no before training um and Judy is here. Judy was at our IT meeting and and said the um talked about no before and there

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are some some a some departments are less >> um I don't know less um they're not they're not up up to speed on their so we're we're um encouraging all departments to >> to um get up to speed and I mean I think

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I'm behind but I don't think I'm over >> talking about the training >> the training the training I just did it >> so I I think all the I mean and just for this for the employees too. >> Carrie gets after the commissioners if we don't do our training she sends out us nasty grams. So I mean we do expect

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>> they're not that nasty. >> We do expect everyone else to be doing these and and I was kind of I was a little bit surprised that we weren't more I was >> up on that. And so we did we did uh say we'd bring this up and I asked for a list of people who aren't up this speed.

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So get that. I just have >> we we will be reviewing that. >> No judgment. >> No, because we're all guilty of it at times, but we are asking all employees to to um to get up to speed on that as quickly as possible. And I I'm I got a couple trainings left to do, too. So, if

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if if we don't get voluntary compliance, I think um I will suggest that we see what other options there are. So, >> I think it's important to understand that those security trainings are >> they're important. They they're important because

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internet security is important and and you can lose a lot of money. You can lose a lot of information by just one wrong click. And >> there is a lot of redundancy in these trainings. There's a lot. But every once in a while there's something ah you know that every once in a while even the most

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person who thinks they understand it all will say that's that that one I forgot about that. So >> um anything else to add? I we did discuss um some of the some of the um >> I think the cameras are are on the

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agenda. >> Well, some of the some of the difficulties in the in payroll right now and my I had brought up a concern about PAR. I don't know. Did you go look at their PAR? >> I did. She did that. Yeah. >> My PAR didn't have any deposits in the whole month of May. So, I don't know

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what happened there or why, but I have some concerns on why that happened. And I'm And did you want to talk about any structure? We discussed structure of U office. >> Um I am not really prepared to talk

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about that. My plan is to talk about >> brought up structure of possibility and we can we'll be looking at some structure changes in different areas. >> Yep. >> Um anything else to courthouse? >> I don't think so. I think everything else is on the agenda. Um, switching to

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land use. Uh, Richard and I were at I think we were both there at the um, NRM meeting. I think the I did ask that all of you receive this packet from Detroit Mountain. I don't know if you received email. >> Um, they're proposing a campground. We

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did offer support earlier to the regional regional park designation for the Detroit Mountain. They did purchase this property with some um, grant money. Their request is um

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their request is quite healthy of 174,000 for this campground. Um I did state that I thought that was a a big a big ask especially at the short timeline. They need this um they need this

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by the end of July I think commitment the commit the dollar amount does not have to come till 2 202728. M >> um I I am not in favor of any general fund dollar going into this. I don't know that how we could support that with

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general fund dollar. I did did say that um and Jim I know Jim's here. I know he doesn't like me offering possibilities on sales tax money, but I did I did you know like we did for Wanigan Park, we we improved some of the um the roadways and

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and and I think for Detroit Mountain originally. So, I would think that we could look at >> Did they give any other options for like in kind? >> Well, they >> I talked to I talked to uh what's his name? Matt Theo. >> Mhm. >> I talked to him on the phone and yeah,

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that Oh, sorry. Sorry, Tom. I insulted you and >> Tom Tom is here if you have any questions. >> And that and that was one one thing we talked about was was some inind and some also some possible smart tax usage money. So >> yeah, Helen Folultz called me and and

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then she caught me right at my job so I couldn't get away. But she she uh she was saying the same thing in kind and my and and I I I'm not I don't have a problem with giving something, but 174,000 is a lot. And we

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don't normally help campgrounds. I mean, if are are we going to help every campground? This is my thing because >> it really doesn't matter who owns it and I I believe vault campgrounds are really good for our area. I just wish people would

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>> um would would make some because people are looking for them. But I if if you know h how do we not support a private one if we're going to support this? >> I I've you know you go back and forth and and we've talked about campsites ourselves on our land.

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>> Um and how do we get and so if we want campsites they're going to cost money there. No question about it. and and if we put a primitive camp camping anywhere, it's going to cost us some infrastructure money and some so you you can you know I was going back and forth

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how how to you know looking this in your mind and this certainly will help tourism there's no and I don't think there's any question because it you know you look at the op the availability of stuff in the proposal and I mean this is a year this will be a yearround campsite in some of

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these spots too. So, I I support something. I It's not the full 174,000, but um I think um this will I think it has opportunity. This will be in Detroit in the city of Detroit Lakes name. So, I think they you

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know would carry the the bigger burden. Mhm. >> But if we could um designate some monies in 27 and 28 in our smart tax money to do road improvements on this for this project to get to the project and to maybe um do some infrastructure work um

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that I I could see I could see some support for myself. I wouldn't support the whole 174,000, but there would be a dollar amount there that I think we could land on. That's my opinion. So, >> um I don't know if the board >> my suggestion then would be for this

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discussion to be ongoing until a July meeting and then have a maybe a more pre formal presentation and then from from Detroit Mountain and then if we choose to we can make the decision at that meeting or vote on maybe go through highway and and

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>> that's what I was going to say. I think I think have a more concrete plan of what >> what we would >> how it works in the budget for highway and if it's two years you know it wouldn't >> Mhm. >> So any maybe if Tom wanted to say anything too but

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>> Tom did you want to say anything >> and put state your name for the record. >> Absolutely. >> Uh my name is Thomas the I am the general manager at Detroit Mountain. uh appreciate the uh opportunity to speak. Um yeah, I think with with the campground looking at it, I think it has wide reaching benefit for the regional

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community. I think it will bring more dollars in. I think there will be upside to it and the ask really does I recognize it is not a a small amount of money by any means, >> but I think it does unlock a $2.3 million grant, which is obviously dollars that I think that we all could put to very good use. And as you kind of

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alluded to, the cost of developing a campground is expensive. So, I think this is kind of it's is an easy way to get one going. Obviously, we're a public entity being Detroit being we are a nonprofit owned by the city, but I know that we are very much here to serve the public and our mission is to basically expand outdoor recreation opportunities

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for the community. So, I I see a bunch of upside for it, but I also recognize the challenges of how you find those funding dollars and what I mean I'll work with you in any way to help kind of um provide some of those opportunities or options. And just just to re refresh everyone, the sales tax dollars, I think

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when we started this um the sales tax money, I think 44% came from out of county taxpayer, you know, the taxes are from out of county. >> So you could look at it's like those funds are coming from tourism dollars for a large part.

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>> Um and a large part of that does come from the city from the city Detroit Lakes area. So, I mean you I mean we've done projects now help projects in Frzy and I a smaller one out in some rural areas. So, I mean you you can start to you can start to say yes, I can see

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where this these funds could help support this. That's that's where I'm coming from on why the countywide sales tax might be appropriate for this type of >> Yeah. Um, have you I'm only saying this from experience when we when we proposed

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the Toad Mountain um purchase and just the importance of getting that local those that are around the the mountain input from them just to get their buy in so you don't have challenges. >> The township you mean? >> Yeah, township.

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>> I definitely owe the township a meeting to discuss this in more detail. There's no doubt about that. >> Yeah. And I will and I will do that just to make sure that I am hearing out any concerns or issues that they have with this. I I I don't expect traffic numbers to change dramatically. Obviously, there's the likelihood of more

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recreational vehicles uh being on the property with with the campground, but you know, with troll traffic and everything else we've experienced the last couple years, I don't think overall traffic numbers are going to change a lot, especially now that we're seeing troll traffic kind of level out a little bit. So, again, I think it's we've seen the peak. I don't know if we're going to

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see anything higher than that. So hopefully that's not a concern. But then again, I I want to make sure that we're hearing everyone out and that we're not stepping on toes. I don't think there's nearly enough campground opportunity for at least nightly camping in the community. So I don't think this is going to change anyone's business model by any means.

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>> It's it's a definite huge need in our >> No. Agreed. Yeah. >> Yeah. And I and I really hope that something this kind of helps supercharge the opportunities that we have for outdoor recreation in the community and get some more of that connectivity being able to I mean part of the master plan that we have these grant dollars or we are planning for these grant dollars

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from includes Mountain View uh improvements and and making sure that then you know having that will get more use I think because of this campground and then hopefully eventually we'll have a connecting trail through Ortonstone into the city of Detroit Lakes again just tying everything together and getting more people out and about.

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Madam Chair, uh Wanigan is park has this in their plans to a campground. Uh not extended overnight or weekend things. They have that in there, too. I just >> um I agree with everything you said, Barry. I don't disagree with anything you said. I just

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>> I I want to make sure I mean, is this a want or is this a need? We have to keep that in mind. We're looking at levy increases again this year. I mean, we haven't seen any final numbers, but I mean, you're 44% of out of out of county money coming in. I mean, all that needs

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to be rolled into a a good reason to to do this. But I I I don't want to forget about our our taxpayers and levy. I mean, a taxpayer would say, "Why are you spending money on a recreational thing when we when we have needs in other areas?" Um, like I said, I I I want to

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go out there and I've got your emails and I want to go out and look and stuff, but uh those are just some things we definitely have to consider. >> The other thing I stressed at the meeting is I I I I'm not real thrilled about the short turnaround for us to to

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get a request for money and it has to be in this time frame. If and we are we've supported the Wanigan Park and we've supported the Detroit Mountain regional status for state for parks. um that doesn't mean that we are financially

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obligated in any way to to to fund them. Um I just want to make sure that's clear. Just like just like the airport, it's like there is no ongoing funding besides our commitment that on new projects. This if you want money from us, I would prefer to be early on

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in the discussions rather than the the last the last minute here. >> All right. >> Thank you. Um, no, >> I really appreciate the opportunity to be here. And yeah, l any questions at all, please reach out. Come out to the mountain and get a tour of kind of what we have envisioned. We would love to have you out.

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>> All right. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> I got the name right. >> Um, >> no, I had when I taught at high school, I had a kid name one of my students was Matt De. >> Yeah. >> Um, going going on to on to NRM, we talked about the little the little sugar

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bush park. Um, Mary wants to keep the gate up and keep that locked for some reason. Oh, no. Mary wants the gate down. We are We are a little concerned. We want to protect that building till it's out of there. Um but the the >> When was that >> coming out? By the end of the summer.

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>> It was August, but they're hoping to get it out um >> sooner. >> Yes. >> October is the deadline when they need to have it removed. >> Um >> but hopefully sooner. >> There is a dock out there that the tribe has donated to the to that uh swim area. We're looking at improvements for day

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day use um for that area. um talked about the flock security cameras a little bit. Um I I didn't think we were at needed needed the security cameras in my opinion at this time but >> at

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>> no well just more of a just a general at Dun Locks and >> Oh >> and um but um discuss Bucks Mill improvements a little bit. The shelter is finished out there I think. um

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and go down. Um I think we all received a invite from the um US Fish and Wildlife then the White Earth DNR for a the signing. >> Madam Chair, Commissioner Nelson, um you said Bucks Mills Shelter. I mean you meant Dun Locks Shelter.

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>> Yeah. >> Complete. But Bucks Mills Bmp thinking about building a shelter down there. >> Oh, that came in the dam. Um I they were talking about we did bring that up and I didn't think that was a necessary or needed. Okay,

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>> that's my opinion. I don't think we need a shelter at the end of that entrance. I think it just a park bench maybe. I don't know if we need a picnic shelter >> to be discussed at committee. >> Um >> um Madame Chair, just uh I know I said I'd tell you the time on the Tamar signing. It is 11 to1.

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>> I just see that in my notes from >> uh June 30th. >> June 30th is 11 to1. Um they do would they would like if anyone is interested in going they would like a number because it's limited seating area I believe. Um

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we did also then review the uh Rush Lake Road Cemetery survey. Um and there's that cemetery that we want to make sure gets back to the church so they can maintain it. That's a old cemetery that's very overgrown and

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um with underbrush and >> where's that at? >> And they they've been cleaning it up >> as we go. Now it's >> the b they've had volunteers out there working on it and >> it's >> and it's not with the church now. >> The church will maintain it and take take care of it. >> Yeah. They moved the church, didn't they?

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>> Yeah, the church was moved in the 40s maybe or something. And >> um do you have a I don't have a map, Steve. Do you know what township or where that cemetery is? >> What's the church name? It's a Catholic church.

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>> So they will maintain it there. There's been burials there and the last one was like in the 40s, I think. Um >> Oh, so so the county owns the property. >> Yes. And we want we want to deed that back to the church so they can maintain. >> Got you. Now it makes sense.

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>> So and that's been going on and there's some there's some spirits out there. So, there's been some lack of upkeeping. You know, cemeteries are a little >> um Well, some of them people didn't make it out of there, >> has it? >> That's what they said. They went out

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there and worked, but and then buried just one more thing, you know, the tribe. So, they gave us that dock, but then they're actually talking about bringing out that machine to >> to clean up that beach area. >> Oh, that would be nice. >> So, this has been a good partnership with them.

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>> Mhm. Uh what was that machine called? >> It goes on a skid steer, right? >> Brush cut. >> No, it was something. That's what it does for. But it's a someer I guess it grinds everything right down into the dirt and leaves it right there. And >> yeah, we have one at highway, too. >> Yeah. I can't remember what they

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>> What are they called, Jim? >> Yeah. I think there's different >> That's it. >> There's different names. It's just a stump grinder that goes down in the dirt, but there's different sizes. Uh I know a gentleman has a huge one that NRM used a few years ago. Highway did we did

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ground up the stumps by Lake Park right on right outside of Lake Park. Um the only thing else I wanted to mention was um Jim I think um I think at some point the mindot discussion at Otaban with the light system with the traffic light

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system and options. I think we I would like to have this board weigh in on what we think is the best option um with MDOT because I I believe that we are a partner as we have two roads going in and out out of that town and um maybe we invite the city of Ottoan down the road

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and and the county and Mindot to have a a little discussion here because um one of the proposals this was a while ago I think I mentioned it was a J turn and I have not heard anyone in have any support for a J turn in that area and closing all the accesses and I I think that's I think

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>> I don't think anybody likes J turns. >> Well, in a in in this going into >> going into a municipality I think is the worst thing that you could do. I mean I don't have a problem with them out in the country where they're low use >> in Ottaban doesn't make sense. No >> no and and you're limited by a lake. So

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there were some things on that that was presented which struck some real hard nerves and and >> you know there's that one by loose there and >> I would like us to have a dialogue with the city of Ottoan and >> give what are what we think would be the

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best options and and I I can accept closing some intersections you know for safety reasons but um there are some real reasons just the other day there was about five days that were the railroad was working on that crossing

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traffic had to be rerouted and and to reroute that I mean luckily they have another approach crossing Highway 10. If that approach wouldn't been there, I don't know how you're going to reroute that, but there was people driving along on a dirt path to get I mean, so there's some there and if you restrict that

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more, it would be it would be a nightmare. If if there's an accident on one intersection, you have to have a second crossing cuz it's three it's two or three miles each direction before there's a crossing there. So, and if you had a light, you'd slow people down then

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they could use those crossings easier. I use I use them all because I have to You can't get back on You can't get across 10 if you go in the truck stop. So, you got to go back east. Get back on the highway. >> Cross get in one lane and then get over here. >> Yeah. Then you can get over here >> like a J turn.

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>> Well, except not one. >> Right. Right. It's an option for us smart. >> I don't like the J turn. So anyway, um >> and uh I was going to bring up the speed study on Cass 4, but that's on the

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agenda. So I'm that's it. >> All right. Who's next? >> I'll go next. So I had a historical society meeting and just one thing about that's happening is this Friday and Saturday is the lumberjack festival at

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the fairgrounds. Um, it's on Friday it's from 10:00 to 8:00 and on Saturday it's from 10:00 to 5:00. They're going to have three there's a company that's coming from I'm not sure where I can't remember but they're going to do lumberjack

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activities like log sawing and chopping and whatever you know hot saws and they're going to have so it's kind of like what you see on TV except probably not quite as as fancy. Um, and they're going to do that three shows on Friday and two on Saturday. And then on

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Saturday there's going to be a pancake feed in the morning and in the afternoon they're going to have a loaded baked potato feed. So, it should be they're expecting lots of people hopefully. And they have some vendors that are going to

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sell lemonade and BRZ and uh they have some other vendors that are going to sell, you know, trinkets like lumberjack stuff and things things of that sort. So hopefully everybody's going to go, huh? >> Maybe. >> Maybe. Yeah. >> Open Friday.

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>> It'll be good. It'll be good. Yeah. And and that's the nice thing too is we there the county is on open Friday. So and most place most pe businesses aren't open either. So that's a positive thing. say most business will be open. >> Well, most business will be open, but public entities will be able to go

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there. >> Banks might be closed. >> Yeah, banks will be closed. Okay. Well, we also had an AMC district 4 meeting. Uh we had a lot of discussion about a lot of stuff detail.

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>> Well, I don't. So one of one of the things the the state members changing the delinquent age from 10 years old for children to 13. >> Yep. >> So that's going to be a huge impact on uh child services and and human services.

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>> Yeah. I think that's actually going to have a bigger impact right at the moment than >> than the math of EBA. >> Yeah, I think you're right. It's going to be a big thing. And and >> so for those of us I mean and I kind of understand but can you explain Erica um

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what that means exactly? >> The changing the delinquency. >> Yes. So obviously we'll have more >> Yeah. So right now any one 10 to 13 goes to probation if they get in trouble. There's >> they can be in a secure site. >> Yep. They can they can be in a secure

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site. They can be on probation. They can be court ordered to services. And some of these youths are I mean they don't look like a 12-year-old. They some of these young people are are can be violent and be very hard to handle and and strong and so

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>> it puts a strain. Now they have to be handled. >> Yep. So now like they'll we can send them to like our West Central Juvenile Regional Juvenile Center because we're allowed to >> starting August 1st. Any youth aged 10,

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11, 12 can no longer go there and they can no longer be on probation. They're no longer delinquent if they shoot somebody or rob a bank or I mean get caught vaping. You know, there there's all a you know string of crimes, but

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it's it's though they're no longer considered delinquent and they will then be referred to human services. So the child welfare for for those services >> and in the extreme cases what you you don't have the tools

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necessarily to >> probably they're no longer um able to go to a secure unit which then leaves the nonsecure more behavioral mental health facilities which we have a

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massive shortage of >> in the state. I mean, we there there's I don't know that we see it here, but more down, you know, in the metro area and other I mean, they're sending them to Arkansas and Wisconsin because they we we don't have facilities closer that are willing to take especially those super

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high needs. >> Yeah. So, just just trying to explain how big a deal this can be, especially if you have one or two cases can end up costing >> a lot of money. I mean, >> and our probation, our especially our juvenile probation officer is fantastic,

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but >> so >> it's no longer will be taking those 10, 11, 12 year olds. >> Yeah, it's it's, you know, and and it might not be as big a deal as we think, but at times and it it it will be. But

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>> yeah, I know at at our um West Central Regional Juvenile Center meetings like there's there are some concerns for counties that do have those in that age group and and what >> you know they can go to nonsecure um but they're they're not going to be

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able to go to their secure unit. >> Can a can a can a judge then order that even though after the after if they if the juvenile es just leaves and goes out and commits more? Can a can a judge finally say enough is enough? This one is going to be insecure.

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>> I mean, I do I don't know. I I think I think a judge can order it. I don't know that >> you know when you take the juvenile center for instance, like they have licensing requirements and they're so their licensing would only be for that

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certain age. >> So, it'd be under judge's order only. I I would >> I don't even know if that will work. I mean, I don't I don't know. That would be a good question for Brian, but >> Okay. Thank you. >> And and then also too, we we talked now

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we this is on the agenda, but we talked about the they talked about the Larry Hill Act and the language was amended. Um and then like I said, it was on it's it was in a consent agenda, but I just wanted to bring it up because this was a big deal for our our our nursing at the jail. And so they've made it a lot

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easier now for our nurses or medical professionals to make decisions about what medications these people should be on and and should they stay on the ones they were taking or not? Who know you know? So they they they they can do their evaluation. They still have to

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they still have to make an attempt to contact um the medical prof the medical doctors from before, but there's a lot of times they they get no response. So they don't have to continue to keep trying. They can use their judgment and their professional judgment. So that was

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a big deal for >> good news. >> Yeah, it is good news. >> And then uh one thing on disability waiverss starting in 2028, there's a going to be a funding change. So for example, disability waiverss like for let's say I'm on the DAC board. So the

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waiverss that the county pays for those their clients to go to the DAC that funding is going to change. that could affect the DAC and then whatever other organizations that we we do waiverss for. So that that could make a big

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difference. So that's another issue that could be coming. And then MCIT had a has a new uh has a new cyber security coverages for counties. Um there is a pos there's a possibility to get an additional million dollar

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coverage for cyber security. Now, at the time of this meeting, they didn't know the cost. Um, and I I don't know, cur is there any more information on that? Yeah. So, so that's how big a deal cyber security is. It's huge. And >> Mhm. >> We're we're actually I think Judy I

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think does whatever we let her do. >> Going on with that, cyber security, where are we as far as having a email retention policy? Are we still working on that? >> Okay. Because that that goes along with that. >> Yeah, it does. Yeah. Yeah. and and and so there's going to be some requirements. So if you get if you get

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the $1 million coverage instead of the 500,000, there's going to be probably requirements like that >> with email and and and trainings and so forth. And and we do a lot of that now and we're getting better, you know, like I think I think when we talked about

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emails about multifactor authentication, I think we might us five might be the only ones that don't have that. Madame Chair, um speaking of that, I sent you all while I was sitting here instructions on the multi-

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>> factor authentication >> app. >> Maybe you could have a short class with us after the meeting to get us to that point. >> Came from Judy, so I let Judy know that I forwarded it on. >> Is there any anything else on anybody else have anything else on the AMC conference district 4?

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All right, that's all I had. I spared you guys the pain. >> You want to go next, Richard? >> I'll go next. I had interm with Barry. He covered that. And I had human services with Erica. I'm going to let Eric cover that.

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Uh, so the only other thing I had was safety. And we talked again about tobaccofree >> Oh. >> public places. And so what we ended up, because I'm not

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for a complete, you know, so we talked about maybe some designated places where people could go smoke. We talked about the fairgrounds, you know, what do you do about the fairgrounds? >> I don't know. You know, they they talked about if we're in the bleachers there

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and, you know, maybe we could make that no smoking. Maybe we could >> do we have control over the fairground. >> Well, >> to make it smoke free. >> So it has to be brought to the fair board. >> The fair. That's just what I was going to say. The fair board will have the authority to say if their grounds are smokef free or not.

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>> And so and so but we so we're talking about the whole county though. So and there'll be different places where >> and so you know we have some smokers here. I'm not a smoker. I you know it'd be nice if nobody smoked but for people

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to they go down to the corner here. I don't know. I >> But it's not even just smoking. It's chewing tobacco. >> It's chewing tobacco too which really isn't hurting anybody but the guy chewing it. So, >> as long as they don't throw the snooze on the floor.

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>> Yeah. And and but that's littering. But then So, I mean, but Yeah. So, I don't know. I don't have all the answers for this, but I don't know if I you know, they talked about you could sit in your car in the parking lot again. We talked about that if your windows are all all

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the way up. And I'm just imagining some guy out there with his windows up. Is there >> smoking? And I'm >> Is there a way to I I know that I know the answer to this question, but if if is there a way to say, you know, you can't you can't smoke if it if it's

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having a effect a negative effect on someone there. If you're out in the parking lot, no one's there. Who cares if you're smoking? That's my point. It's like >> that's what I'm saying. And and so >> well I think part part of the if we recall from the presentation fellas the purpose of a smokefree work environment

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is to try to encourage >> them to not >> them to quit and then >> we're talking work environment now but >> yeah well >> we're I'm talk now he's talking countywide. I mean >> yeah madam chair I do not Commissioner Barber I don't remember talking about countywide. I thought it was our buildings or something got a little

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deeper in this safety meeting. Yeah. >> And and Yeah. And so and that's it gets pretty deep. And >> well well when when the guy from Clay came, he did say that the goal would be the countywide. And I I I don't I don't support countywide myself.

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>> It depends on what the term countywide is. >> I mean a countywide campus >> or countywide property. >> County grounds. >> Mhm. >> So more to come. >> Yeah. More to come. But we >> I mean, did you talk about like the

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snowplow driver who smokes? >> I mean, >> well, but I I thought it was the buildings, >> right? But I'm >> Yeah. So, we did. So, you're not allowed to smoke in our county vehicles. That That's a no no. Whether you're deputy or who you are, you're not allowed to smoke in them. But

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>> if if there's some place down here or over there where the smokers are smoking and you don't want to smoke, get the smoke. Don't go over by them. I mean around Sheriff Glander can tell you there's no smoking allowed in the jail.

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>> So I mean these I mean when I started there was smoking allowed in the inmates could smoke >> and that was a big deal. >> That was a long time ago very >> taking that taking >> taking that away from inmates. I that was thought to be uh >> was that like 1962 >> that they were it was thought to

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>> at least in the 1900s. But I mean if if you the the thing of this is you know those that's a stressful environment and if inmates can make it without >> smoking for the whole time they're in there. >> You know if we're going to force people

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to give up their habits I think people can make their own decisions. I you know I' I'd love to see everybody quit smoking but I don't I'm not here to to force them into anything. So, I don't know. Well, they they're going to come back with some recommendations for us.

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And that >> Well, I'm I'm appreciative like on the city beach if you're there. I would appreciate no, you know, I would like no smoking. This is a city ordinance, but no smoking. If I'm sitting next to someone watching the parade, I don't want the person next to me smoking and all that smoke coming at me.

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>> I mean, so if it's got a negative effect on your neighbor, you shouldn't be doing it. >> No. And that's right. And I agree with that. I don't I don't want little kids brea I don't want anybody putting up with it. But is there are there places that people could go and have a cigarette? I think we do have places

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where they could and and I don't know how you would do all that. But anyway, that's all that's all I have. >> All right. You want to go next? >> Sure. Um uh went to the fairgrounds for

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the drone uh uh the the sheriff's drone uh regional thing. It was very very interesting. U Thanks for putting it on. Shane did a great job. um got to fly a drone a little bit. It's not as hard. I did um didn't go in the car in the window or in the building,

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but I I flew it outside a little bit. I got on one of our boats. Uh they were using a drone and the boat to find a body supposedly underwater. So went out with that with Nick and that was very informative. Um county ash. Um so I I

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took had some pictures taken. Uh we're right now we talked about the Prairie Lakes uh ash being put in the road. I took a couple pictures here. Here's this is happening out on County 40 right now. That truck just dumped that ash right there. Um and then the blade comes behind it and spreads it out. I mean,

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you would think that even that could be class 5 or something. So it it was working pretty well. Uh next slide. Um you know, there are some impurities in it. That's a that's a piece of wire that's sticking out. We need to get a little bit better at our traumoline and

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getting some some pieces out. That was a small piece. There were a few bigger pieces in there, too. But that's Brian Shepard took me out there. That's his boot just for comparison there. Uh this is at the the county line, County 40 where we where we start. And that road

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that was done a few days before. You can see the white in the road. Next slide. If you can see it. Um, yeah. I can't see it very well here, but you can really tell that there is some the ash really shows up as white and it gets really really hard bakes it in. >> Is that the base then, Jim? The ash

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>> underneath the buminous. Yeah. >> So, like that wire sticking up, the asphalt will go over that. >> It will. So, I mean, >> Yep. >> That's not a wire sticking up when you got three inches of asphalt over it. Right. >> Right. >> You know, the one thing too Brian said, he said the ash this year doesn't smell

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as bad as it did last year. Um there I didn't notice much smell with it, but remember it is ash uh coming out of a burner and then was stored and traumd. Um right here uh that's a reclaimer right there. Um you see that white

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material on the road. We did a mile I think Jim. Uh that is actually fly ash. Correct Jim? So that's that's Yeah, it's what what they use for for cement. So, we did a mile test of that fly ash to

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see uh if that holds up better. So, we got a few test cases on this road. That reclaimer will go ahead. He'll start he's digging that in right now. Uh reclaiming it. And uh that's right at the intersection of I think Toad Lake store. But that's that's a

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reclaimer. That's he's mixing it all together is what he's doing. They'll they'll come buy it with a a blade and even it out, pack it, and then they'll put the tar over the top. So, >> this 39 or is this by Wolf Lake? >> This is 40. It's right by Wolf Lake. >> Oh, remember tar is for roofs.

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>> Yeah. Okay. So, that's that. We can go to the last one here. Um, and I just want to show you this. So, the little problem, this stuff gets to be a little thick here. Um, it doesn't smooth out really well. Um, is

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that the beginning of it, Peggy? >> Okay. Um, so there are some concerns that we're working on. We wish that was a flatter surface there, but it's still going to be uh ground in and and and but it does sheet a little bit. You know, it gets a whole sheet if you get if it gets

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packed down. Once it gets packed down, you can't hardly blade it in. So, some concerns, but I'm glad we're doing it. And it takes a little more effort, a little more work, but uh um we're getting rid of that that product. We're saving space in our ash facility. So >> So the ash, Jim, you couldn't just put

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ash on a gravel like a driveway and just leave the ash as the exterior. >> You wouldn't want gravel road top with a >> Okay. >> Would it get slimy kind of like the like

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we had? >> No, it really packed hard and you know it binds to material on the road. >> But so >> I'm just it wouldn't be a last surface

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for a driveway. Why why would that not work? You know, so someone just put it on their driveway. Why wouldn't that be? >> Well, you'd have to blend it with it. So >> blend it with

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the just by itself. But then you wouldn't be able to really >> it would get flaggy. >> Okay. >> You wouldn't be able to blade it as well down the road with class 5. If you had that in it, wouldn't that harden that up so stiff? I don't I think some of that I don't I'm not even sure the blade can go over it. It was rock hard.

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>> Yeah. When it turns up when they mix it with the gravel, it turns rock >> and and that's what we're trying to get. We're trying to get a good base subgrade, right? We can put the tar. I'm just asking if you know not a paved road but just a a driveway if that would be something where you could put on

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>> be acceptable to make it so it's >> if it gets rock hard >> if it's less expensive than than asphalt. >> Yeah. >> And you could um the contractor has worked up in county uh and he is actually um during

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their crushing operations they mix it in with the um aggregate and stuff like that. So that would be the best way. >> Okay. >> Apply it to >> and then apply it to a a low traveled road and just leave it a >> blade it around and >> mix it in with their aggregate for

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gravel roads. >> Correct. Y >> Oh, >> but they still for the PCA rules, it has to be >> That was my question. Yeah. >> So you can't leave it exposed >> or

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Okay. Would it would it be the same as for somebody's driver though? Would you have to follow those same rules? >> Yeah, I would assume PCA would require it not being exposed. Okay. >> But it's a it's a good way to use this ash up uh you know it goes into our ash facility as a hazardous material. It

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comes out, we put it in the road and being capped, it's it's not a hazardous material and we're using it up. So, um, last meeting I said concerning the construction and demolition, the Stantech presentation, I said I don't think we need to do that. But I kind of

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changed my mind a little bit. Then, um, I they would do a video presentation. Um, I wanted them to do it this meeting, but they weren't prepared. So, I think in July or August, um, they would come back and I I I think you guys need to hear it, not only from me. Maybe you guys can pick something out that I

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didn't, but uh we have our meeting tomorrow, one of our final meetings. I think that is our final meeting. Um and then they would do this presentation, I suppose be 10, 15 minutes about the last year uh the CND uh thing. They would come in and present their findings um to

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the group and I' I'd asked them to do that. So, we'll put that on the agenda. I'm not sure exactly when. Uh Barry, I have to defer. Um, I went to a city council meeting here in DL and uh they had their audit. Um,

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they got nicked on the segregation of duties as well. So, I was wrong and you were right. And that is a pretty much a >> Good job, guys. >> And that's really hard to say that you're right, Mary. Uh, but they did it did come up. I just happened to notice it and and so >> I think everybody gets

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>> um so moving on so I don't have to live in that moment. um AMC district meetings. Uh Dave pretty much covered everything. Just one thing uh uh the district is a district 4. The main rep for that is Bill Sterns. And I just want to pass on he's been a longtime uh

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commissioner over in Wedina County. Um his wife passed away a couple weeks ago. So just just so you're aware. Um, pretty much what Dave said, but county's concerned about budget increases, the SNAP roll out, um, and then the cost

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shifts again. Um, one thing I took note of was, uh, we did get that social services, uh, modernization thing passed. >> So, it's 90 million in the bienium, the next couple years. So, we'll we'll get the the wheel of death hopefully figured

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out um on your computer. Uh, so that's going to be happening. They've got a they've got a uh a group there that are working on how they're going to implement that. >> Um, >> that 90 million, just so you know, the wheel of death is we already have funding for that. Um, and that's being

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worked on. It'll still be probably several years, but that 90 million is to modernize all of the rest of >> Okay. >> the the social service systems, which >> needs to be done, I think. I mean it does very much >> the trick of it is I think what we've

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heard in the past is how do you make them communicate all together? >> Y that's the goal >> which hopefully now that we're updating them all at the same time >> maybe that's possible but >> um the only other thing I took away which I thought was kind of funny uh the

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tab fee is going to be reduced your tab fee on your on your vehicle is going to be reduced for 2027 >> say for one year >> but it's going to go right back up in 2028. Can we pre-by like 10 years? >> I I asked that question then. >> Yeah. Um I had rack uh recreational

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advisory committee. Uh we toured uh Sugar Bush again. Um one really good thing that came out of there uh Jason from White Earth was out there. We formed a subcommittee as to what did to do with that little Sugar Bush area. Barry kind of covered most of it. Howard

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and uh Karen were going to be on that with Jason and they were going to come up maybe do some trails out there, try to keep people away from the lake uh so so you can walk down there, maybe make a trail down there or something. Um but they were going to do a little subcommittee and report back. Um

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I'm really I'm wondering what the reason is for the rack here a little bit. I mean it's an advisory committee, but NRM covered everything I was going to cover from being on the rack anyway. I don't know if there's some duplicity that we want or don't want, but I think it's something we should consider down the

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road. Um, we hired our new employee uh uh working with the DNR to do the 50 53 accesses. So, he's up and rolling now and got his hands full, I'm sure, and learning and Mitch is nurturing him along. Hartland Trail had a meeting

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there. Um, Jim, I'm glad you're here. We talked about this this morning a little bit, but please fill in um the Frzy Trail. It looks like the DNR is is not going to allow us uh there's some it's a little bit too it's not as flat as they wanted or

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>> ADA compliant. >> It's not ADA compliant. And uh uh the guy who uh the DNR guy uh he's about ready to resign, Kent Scar, but he he he said, "No, you you can't get away. You can't just you have to fix it." So

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fixing it would either be what I understand milling down the middle which would the trail wouldn't be as strong or adding something to the edges in places or most of the place. Um which you know that that would be a hazard almost uh

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riding a bike or something tripping over. So we don't know exactly what's going to happen yet. Uh but that feeds into extending the H Heartland Trail. We wanted to use those funds that were left over to work on the next phase of the

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trail down to Bucks Mills, Dun Locks, over uh to North Pearl, down to Coratant. Um but we can't do that until we get this resolved. So, and we have to use that money by a certain time. Supposedly, the DNR is going to they

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expect Hog, who was the contractor on that, to finish fix that. Hog is pushing back. Um, so that might turn into a lawsuit. We don't want that $500,000 to go away. We're trying to expand that corridor, uh, the Harland Trail corridor

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to include cornat, which it doesn't include right now. So, we're we're kind of stuck as to we don't want to lose that 500,000 is is what what we don't want to lose. Um, one suggestion, actually Kelsey Clim suggested this. Um,

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you know, getting down to the golf course that the golf course is still within the the the Harland Trail, the the corridor. So, going down that way, we'd be able to use some funds with some design funds. We'd still need to get the money to build the trail. It'd be along

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Highway 59 because Wefest doesn't want us to go through their their property. Uh, so, uh, those are some things we discussed. We're kind of at everybody's kind of looking at each other. We don't know exactly where to go from here. Kent Scar is retiring in July. His his the

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guy who's taken over. You know, he'll be brought up to speed on everything that's going on, but we don't know exactly what's going to happen there. Uh Jim, do you have anything to add? >> Okay. >> Thank you. Um Okay. So, uh the only other thing is Eagle Lake, uh we had a

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Zoom call. Carrie and I were on the Zoom call with Steve and and um Mitch. Uh several DNR people were on there. Um it looks like that is going to move forward. Um we need to work out some details. There's playground equipment down there on that property that they do not want to be responsible for. So I've

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called the city of Freay Z and and Hank Ludkkey was a big uh promoter and I think uh he's the one who kind of got that playground equipment in there. So uh we're working on a plan to get that out. There's two lion shelters there too at Eagle Lake. um talked with Mitch. I I

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think we could we could handle them, take care of them. Um uh but the DNR doesn't want to be responsible for them. So working working on that now. So we just had that Zoom call yesterday. So >> those shelters are used quite a bit. >> Amazing how much Yeah. I would say,

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>> you know, a lot of our conversation was, you know, we don't see much traffic down there. >> Yeah. So I I've gone by there quite a bit. >> Weekends. >> Yeah. On weekends, too. I have a big black dirt pile just on the other side of that. >> And I can't believe how much those

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shelters are used. And that little park, I can't believe there's always people in there. >> You know, that's really good to know because I've driven by there, you know, 10 times in the last couple years, which isn't a lot, but I've never seen anybody there. >> I'm surprised how much it's used. So,

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>> um, Madam Chair, just one thing to add to that. Um, with the playground equipment, the discussion we had is that this is used equipment, so it may be at the end of its lifetime. So, those are the questions that we're trying to get answered. >> Yeah. >> The owners, the nonprofit investment

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group there, uh, they they really want to get this they they'll do what it takes to get this out of their hands. You know, there's some liability issues for them, not only the playground, everything. They they were the interim until the DNR could take over, but the DNR does sound interested. Um, but they

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they they some of these concerns need to be resolved before that we move forward. I asked for a timeline. >> I don't want to tell you what they said, but >> year and a half >> to get it done. So >> I actually I think that's pretty

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>> double digits. >> That's all I got. Thank you, Erica. >> All right. Well, the only the only meeting I had was just human services. Um everything is on the agenda. We're going to talk about the opioid settlement recommendations. Um, but one

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thing I did want to um bring up is it was brought up at our human services meeting is the state did and I can't remember if I said this before, but we had our title 4E um review with the the feds as a state and Becker County did I

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believe have two files that were audit were reviewed um in that and it's it's a review that happens every three years but we did not do it um I think the last one was 2018 due to COVID. Um, so the

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the state passed with uh zero error cases. I think they they review um 80 cases, 100 they receive 100 cases, review 80 cases, and they're allowed four error cases and they received zero

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error cases. So, um, the county or the the state passed that and Becker County had a part in them passing it. So, >> that's all I had. Madam Chair, I had a couple other things to add. Um, Sunnyside had their state survey. Um, we I forgot to mention we did have a

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meeting with Sunny at Sunnyside. Um, the state survey came in and they they gave such high accolades to Sunnyside. They said that um they were chosen for a pilot focused focus survey this year and that they

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passed deficiencyfree. The surveyors were very complimentary of Sunni Sunnyside. Um they said that Sunnyside is by far the best nursing home that they have surveyed and the excellent care provided. Um so just just a shout

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out to the staff at Sunnyside and and u Ashley was is doing a great job out there and the more you know the employees I think are are the asset to that building. So >> um financially we are we're not doing so well this year. the the rates are

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supposed to be changed if when that rate change comes from J I think it's July one >> July one >> I mean January >> January one it'll be retroactive >> it should be we should be at cash you know bring us back to about a zero loss right now we're at a loss but if you remember last year we had a at about a

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$500,000 gain because of the grants and the that one time money >> employee retention credit >> um and then just a sad bit of news a former employee that was in our IT department. Brad Olsen passed away. I don't know. Mary probably is maybe Jerry

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remembers him from way back. Um and then I just would like to also give a a shout out to the um the the tribal had their election and challenger Jacob MacArthur um won the secretary of treasure. So congratulations. And Henry Fox won

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re-election. And is it Alch um Hakabe won on the >> son? Yeah, son. Um, uh, one district, too. So, congratulations to those and hopefully we have a good working relationship with with with them, too. So, as Richard

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pointed out earlier, I think, um, I think we all benefit from good relationships. Now, we're not going to obviously agree on everything, but when you know people and you know that um, it helps build those that trust a little bit better. So, >> thank you.

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>> All right. Anything else for reports? appointments. Looks like we have Cormmont Lake Wershed. >> We have a >> Yes, I gave uh Peggy the name and address. Let me get the

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>> um Madam Chair, I'd like to point Steve Hansen um to fill the Mike Foley position. >> Second. >> All right. Any further discussion? >> Uh that's fill one position. We there was another retirement rate, Barry. So, there will be another one coming. Won't

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be the same one. I find somebody else. >> Yeah. And and it states in the letter, but um I was going to mention this after the that vote, but uh Ellis Peterson has resigned due to health reasons. Um Ellis has been such a a staple in that board and and held I mean, been one of the

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people that you really call and and ask for guidance. So, thank you for his years of service. Um it's a sad day when when he's not on that board to I mean he brings that board has been a really good working board that that works with the people that they have contact with and

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try and find solutions. They're not the strong arm of government telling you what you got to do. They work and find solutions when there is an issue. So um thank you to Ellis and his years of service and wish him well in his retirement from the board. Um but yes, we will have to post another opening as

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we speak. Thank you. Resignation says with June 2nd. >> Okay. So, we have a motion and a second to appoint uh Steve Hansen. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> I. >> Opposed. Motion carried. >> All right. On to

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carrying. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. Um just wanted to update. I was going to ask Steve this question. Um I believe the fencing out at our um landfill road to 145th began yesterday. Is that accurate? Oh, Steve,

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he was sitting there. Oh, sorry. >> Um, it was slated to begin yesterday. I have not been out there myself, so I'm not clear if it did start. >> Um, just wanted to bring and you uh perhaps all saw this, but there is some future grant opportunities or funding

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opportunities for um court security and such. So, I know that there's been some discussion amongst counties or questions asked as far as what that may cover. So, that might be something this county wants to um take a look at. I know there's been prior discussions about

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what what we may want out here. Um and the sheriff's department has had some ideas in the past as well. So, that may be something good for our county to take a look at. Um there was some mention of some training and I just wanted to u update.

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Um we will have some further discussions in the department head meeting with by department as far as tracking not only the um the security on computer um systems but also looking at our safety

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training that's required by all of our employees. And again the intent is to really look at where we are because I both of those items are extremely important. um and need to happen, you

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know, with employees. So, um yes, there'll be further discussion on that. I was hoping that we would be um a little bit higher in in those items as far as you know, employees completing those. And yes, you

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will get uh reminders from me. Again, there's a few of you that >> I I just want to say that I am 100% current. >> Oh, I am >> as of as of yesterday. Good job. >> Um I we're going to have a call. Um I

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was there was a call to me with regards to our Verizon tower out on Highway 113. We tried to get additional information prior to them scheduling a call with us. I believe that might even be today later. Um so more to come on that. They were it was very vague as far as what

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the topics were, but we'll certainly were scheduled. I got to make a comment on that. So, we I went fishing at Bad Medicine last week and I got phone service on the lake for the first time ever. So, it was awesome. >> Nice. >> So, I will update uh the board once I

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know what the questions or the concerns or requests are. I'm not exactly sure. Um the last item I have under my report is again I know you all love this topic, our work sessions. I was uh yesterday in finance and I think in courthouse had

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asked the question during our last work session with this board we talked about having some scheduled again but we were I don't know that we ever settled on what that would look like. So yesterday at finance the suggestion was for

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scheduling a work session on July 14th. It's a nonboard week and I believe that's a Tuesday at 8:30. So, I just wanted to and then perhaps through the budgeting cycle looking at a monthly

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schedule and an offboard week ongoing and I'm just looking for feedback. >> I think I think um I I I I think that's fine with me. I I would say though that if we don't we can schedule it. If we don't need it, then we don't have it.

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>> Does that make sense? I think I mean I think it makes more sense just to not have it out there. I think let's just decide if we're going to do it. >> Yeah, that's fine. >> And then and just not schedule it. I mean, I think with budgeting come up coming up, it's going to we probably

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need, you know, a work session to get through that budgeting process, which is why I said let's let's look at maybe one in July, one in August. Then I I don't know that we >> Yeah, that's right. >> You know, once we set the preliminary

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levy in September, >> we may be needing another work session before the end of the year, but >> yeah, we all know I'm not a big work session. I don't mind them, but I don't want to I you know, somehow we made it this far without hard hardly ever having

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any. And I'm not saying that they're >> You didn't work with me before. I think I think work sessions I mean we all dread them when you go into them but I think the discussions and the dialogue and the and the working together we come out better every time. So >> I don't like seeing them on my agenda

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either but they're they're good for us. >> Madam Chair, uh Commissioner Barber suggested I mean let's have a very specific topic which I'm not certainly not opposed to and and budget's going to be a big deal uh coming up. we're starting to ask at finance, you know, what's it looking like for next year?

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And uh so >> well, and we have had, as you recall, we've had some very specific topics in there, um and some good discussion, and I've kept those as rolling topics so that we can hopefully come to some type of

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consensus in the work session. >> So, yes, we are going to do this. I'm hearing no opposition. So, I'm going to take that as a yes for July 14th. >> 8:30, 10:30. Is that which >> I think we usually do an hour and a half, but we can we have went over, but

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I've tried to keep them within an hour and a half. >> Okay, I'll put it on July 14th. >> Yeah, it seems like after an hour and a half, we >> um >> all work is done. >> Biggy, you want to send out an invite? >> Yes. I just wanted to bring it to your

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attention. Apparently on the calendar there may be an NRM. >> We have NRM. So >> yeah. So do we want to go after that or do we want to ask them to move that? >> I I'm fine with either. Well, >> yeah. I think when I looked at my calendar, I think I had to be done. I had to be like back home by 11.

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>> 4 hour meeting. >> Well, you know, if you're going to ruin two days for me. I mean, you know, I mean, >> how about if you do NRM at 10:00, >> then that'll keep us >> out of our work session. Can we go earlier?

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>> The the NRM now they have outside agenc. >> Okay, >> that's fine. >> We could I mean we could do a bright and early sunrise. >> I'm not a morning person. >> I mean I would be fine with that. Madam

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Chair, I I will do I will do whatever. >> I'm okay with early two. >> It's either move an NRM or try to get them both in, but in a reasonable time. Either we would go after or before NRM or move NRM. That's the >> I mean, we could do a session at seven.

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>> That's fine with me. I don't >> they may have it may already be t it's just a reoccurring meeting. So, I don't know if that's the date that they actually are going to do it on again. Our our NRMs are pretty >> pretty consistent. Okay. >> Would you be better with the seven?

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>> Are you a morning person, Richard? >> Well, I can be. I'm not a real big morning person. >> I'm not real excited about a seven. >> Oh my gosh, you guys. >> I'm I'm retired. I'm not getting up at 6. >> Whatever. I I will take a look and make

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something work. How about that? If we have to change the work session to later, the 14th might not work for me because I believe I had something that I needed to be back at 11:4. >> That's what I remember you saying. Yes. So, >> okay. Well, we'll >> we can have NRM at the same time.

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>> Just have I'll do both meetings. >> Oh, you're running back and forth to rooms. >> I'll just have the table on both sides. >> Oh, okay. All right. Yeah. >> Well, no. >> Okay. I'll work I'll work on on the schedule. >> Big deal. this NRM.

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>> We'll do I'll I'll figure it out. I'll let you know what I figure out. >> All right. Um Madame Madam Chair, if uh there's nothing else for me, then I am That's all I have. >> Okay. >> Do we have the um

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>> presentation? You may. >> Y Trevor. >> Trevor. Hello, Trevor. It's on. >> Well, good morning. Thanks for uh hosting me today. Uh my name is Trevor Janish. I've been in the community for over 10 years. Uh coach, assistant head coach of girls

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soccer, drive school bus, and pastor church here in Detroit Lakes. But a passion of ours is uh what I present to you today is the May crossroads. Uh at a Becker County youth event just a couple years ago, the students were in the process of playing a game, Never Have I Ever. And a statement was given, never have I ever thought about committing

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suicide. 90% of those students stood identifying that they had thought about committing suicide. Two of those students in that youth event were my daughters. In 2017, at the age of 19, my eldest nephew died from suicide. And from that moment, my wife

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and I have been searching for understanding as to what led to that decision. For the past four years, we have committed time and resources to researching the depthness of suicide and mental health in the high school and college age students in the Detroit Lakes area. In your packet, you received a flyer that looked like this

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that shared some of the statistics that I will go over shortly. These statistics apply to our students, our community, and our county. Many believe that these issues only happen to those who are outcast, socially awkward, or unpopular.

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But that is not the case. On April 26, 2023, a student named Brandon Nelson at Fergus Falls, a junior, died from suicide. He was a popular football and hockey player for the Otter. Over the last 5 years, I'm aware of at least five students who have died from suicide in

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our area. According to the National Substance Abuse and Mental Health Survey, 12 to 25 year olds are two times more likely to die from suicide than any other age category. Based on the same survey, statistically that means 78 of our DL students have made a suicide plan and 43

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have attempted in the past year. In 2018, Essentia Health shared that one in five students had suicidal thoughts and in 2022 that number went to one in two. Center for Disease Controls in 2023 shared that 40% uh felt persistent

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feelings of sadness and hopelessness. 20% reported seriously considering attempting suicide. 16% reported making a suicide plan and 9% reported they attempted suicide. Lower self-esteem, lack of community and social connection and an unhealthy

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mental health leads to poor decisions as they try to take hopelessness and sadness or deal with those. In the same survey, the CDC shows 17% using marijuana and 22% trying to take care of this illness with alcohol or other drugs.

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Consumption of chemicals is a symptom of a greater issue in people's lives. Treatments have their place, but they are post-traumatic s system centers whereas crossroads our hope is to be a proat a pre-traumatic preventative resource.

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Crossroads exist to journey alongside students in the crossroads of their lives. It is a third space for high school and college age students in Detroit Lakes area. It is a place that will help bring a smile to their face, a place where training opportunities will be provided to learn new skills from third-party trainers. It is a gathering

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space free of mood altering chemicals. Provides a place for students to simply gather, whether it be to celebrate a team victory, hang out with friends, or have a space to study or do homework with adults that can assist. It is also the heart of a crossroads to empower students to grow in adulthood to help

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resource them with tools that will help them be successful and thrive. Just in this last year, we have provided Race to the Lake, an event for high school and college age students, light up the night, suicide awareness night, and at New Year's Eve all nighter, we had 43 students from various backgrounds,

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homeschool, public school, and different activities engaged together as came as strangers and they left as friends. Here's some final numbers I just want to throw your way. Detroit Lakes High School has an average of 200 students graduating per year. You take that over the four class classes and that comes

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out to 800 students. 339 students are involved in fall activities including sports, uh, BPA, student council, speech, knowledgeable, etc. 410 are involved in winter activities. 320 are involved in spring activities. That

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leaves an average of 443 students who are not involved in any extracurricular activity. These numbers are specifically Detroit Lakes High School. That does not include homeschoolers, does not include PSO students, does not include online academy or other school districts around

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us who would benefit from aneas. So besides their home, where do 443 high school students and 1,250 19 to 25year-old young adults hang out in Detroit Lakes? Where do they have to go where mood altering chemicals are not

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present? They there are many great establishments to eat at, get a cup of coffee, but some are extremely small. Some have hours that are limited, and majority have bars or serve alcohol at them. The mere presence can develop a temptation to try to treat their pain through these mood

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altering beverages. The challenge has been faced with over these last four years is it's commonly stated, we need this. Our students need this, but very few are willing to put their names behind an organization that is willing to address a topic with a negative stigma or unveil topics that go

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against socially accepted norms. We have launched the blackout suicide, which you also received in your packet. It's a fundraising initiative that raising this money would raise $25,000 to help keep us going over these next six months. I was did not come here to intend to ask

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for money. I came to bring awareness, but I do want to just bring you awareness that this is a 1.4 $4 million project that we've been on a journey with. We acquired Gary Lee's auto body two years ago and we started the remodel process, but we need 130,000 just to

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open uh 30,000 just to keep pressing on. So, if there is a desire to address the the issues in our students, the chemical dependency, you you mentioned the opiate epidemic. Students need to be given tools to build a strong

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mental health to make healthy decisions before life gets tough and amazed to do just that to build healthy minds to make healthy choices. If you have any suggestions of support, please reach out to me. My contact information is on that flyer. I just want to say thank you for your willingness to serve our county

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with integrity and diligence. It may not be said enough to you guys, but thank you. It is notice. And thank you for spending a few minutes listening to me about Maya's Crossroads. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. Thanks. Um I I believe we has did AMAS get some

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funding from us before through the >> we were the first recipient of the opia grant the very first year. Um and so we are very grateful for that recipient. That's what got us launched. >> Okay. >> So we do appreciate that. >> Um are have you are you working with

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anybody to to get grants? >> So we've partner we we were just at Dakota Medical Foundation training last week. Um so we've been pre-approved for urban on list for giving hearts day. >> Um we have worked with creating

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community consulting and reached out uh there as well. Um been of course through the gamut with all the meetings around town and organizations too. >> Okay. >> Any other questions? >> Um are you affiliated with a national

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group or campus? >> We are not. >> Okay. I know my kids going to campus. I just heard about that camp about four weeks ago. >> Oh, really? >> For the first time. So, yes. >> Yeah. That's a that's a I think it's a Lutheran camp that >> um and I and I do want to stress I have

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I have two friends that they're they're that have been affected by by suicide and they're not I mean they were the the two one I think they were both Fargo Morehead area amazing kids and you there's no

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understanding how how and athletic and so the leaders of their of their school and and it's hard to understand and and as a parent certainly I worry about my own kids and mine are in that age group too and

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>> um I I it's hard to understand that that mind is still growing so much for them and how to how to guide them correctly. So a kudos to you for making an attempt to to to try to steer them in the right direction. >> Appreciate it. Thank you. it. I I used

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to teach at I taught 28 years at Treylex High School. In those 28 years, we had two kids that were in the high school that committed suicide while they're in high school. And then I believe there was four or maybe five within a four years out of high school committed

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suicide. So, it it's I I appreciate what you do. So, >> thank you. >> It's it's a it's it's terrible. It's hard hard to get in their heads that the problems that they have now will get better. >> Absolutely. Um the they're big significant problems and and as you age

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to be our age, you look at them, it's like they were nothing. Wait till you get older. There's some real >> um no that they you'll learn the significance of they they will learn that the significance of those wasn't as grand as they thought they were. And and that's what I try to get to my kids. They

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>> there's no problem that we can't get through. It's I don't know. I I still worry. I mean, I I know that I'm not invincible that it can't happen. So, Yep. >> Madam Chair, Trevor, what what was the uh what did the opioid uh what was that contribution to your

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>> We received $170,000 the first year. >> And what year was that? >> That would have been the 2024, the initial. Okay. >> And that application process now we're we're meeting or right after this there will be Um, >> yep.

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>> A request from our committee. Did you have you applied recent since? >> We applied each year. Uh, we were denied last year and then um I'm already aware of the results for this year. Okay. >> Or the recommendation, I should say. >> Okay. And you and and I would assume now

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we see just a one sentence on on why things weren't approved. M >> um you're being steered or coached to how to make those more. >> We've never we have not received any last year or this year any correction of how we can fulfill >> rise to the top.

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>> Yeah. >> Okay. Well, we'll maybe um maybe when Denise comes up, we can ask her how how we can how we can educate those that are denied and to move forward in the in the next process what they're looking for or something. Maybe

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>> I know I know for us I'll just speak a little plainly here is um in the narrative of the reasoning for the opiate grant there isn't a great uh objectives listed. It's very vague. And so I saw the recommendation where we fit doesn't have our name on it but I know

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which one we were and the reason that they put was not part of the objectives of why we scored low. So there's the objectives just aren't as clear as to what they're measuring for us to to hit the metrics. >> Okay. >> Um so so personally we're a little

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frustrated the last few years because of that. But we understand there's a system >> and we have we understand there's other reasons. There's other grants and all that kind of stuff that that are out there. This isn't a you know it's great that when we received it, we're grateful we had it, but there's so many great organizations that need it, too.

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>> Yep. And I think I think part of it is is it what what you're doing is is great. >> Um but you're at such a beg like at the very very beginning process that >> you know we want to >> we've kind of given you that seed and

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now hopefully that that can continue to grow and until you're open and and then and then we can have the um you know get out there to be able to provide those services once you're able to get up and going. >> Yep. So, >> okay.

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>> Thanks for that. >> Thank you guys. That's all I got. Thank you. >> Oh, thank you. >> All right. Thank you. >> Thank you, Jerry. >> Thanks, Jerry. >> Jim, do you want to come on up? >> Um, Madame Chair, would do you want to

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do him prior to the business subsidy? >> Yeah, we'll get him. >> Okay, great. I just remember that you didn't forget it. Madam Chair, the I think the request that Jim is um as at the Lake Ida Lake Ida meeting and which is right next to

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Cassaf 4, they have uh numerous new buildings and construction going right across the road from Lake. So there's going to be more walk across the lake traffic to get to the lake because they have um new building new houses going to be walking up and have lake access. So

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there's a lot of will be foot traffic in that area. There has been a fatality on that road. >> Madam Chair, I'll move to approve this resolution. >> Second. >> All right, we have a motion. >> You just want to keep me quiet. So >> do you want to say anything more on it? >> No, this is just the start of the process. We need a resolution from the

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board here to initiate MIDOT speed study. Uh timing wise, um my goal is that they would collect data this summer. uh then they send that down to their central office and go through their process. Previous years it's it's taken you know

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maybe up to two or three years. They are exping expediting this process quicker. Uh hopefully you know they could have results by next year where we could put signage up would be my best uh guess at what would happen or wishful guess I

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guess. >> Yeah. >> Madame Chair and uh Jim. So this will go from that intersection to the church around the cur how far >> west lake Ida lane which is right across the church >> that is stadium that is my request. Um okay

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>> they kind of look and determine you know driveway spacings and stuff. They have their process. >> Okay. All right. Yep. It says in here. >> Okay. Any further discussion? Not call a vote. All those in favor say I. I. >> Opposed. Motion carried. Thanks Jim. Yep. >> Thanks Jim. Sorry I couldn't get you in

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there sooner. stereo. >> All right. Next thing on the agenda is we have to set a public hearing for the business subsidy policy >> July 7th. >> For July 7th at 9:00 a.m. >> So moved. I'll second. >> All right. We have a motion, a second.

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Any further discussion? >> All those in favor say I. >> Opposed? Motion carried. >> All right, Denise. >> See her back. See her back. You didn't see me back there. >> Good morning. >> Morning, Denise.

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>> Morning, Denise. >> I got to give you something for a second. >> Thank you. >> Yes. >> Thanks, please. >> It's Is this different? >> It's got It's got the names on it. the

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one we got. >> It has the names for the recommendations which was um recommended by Carrie um at our human services committee. It came forward and the changes were made while I was on vacation and the um

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updated form went on finance but not board accidentally. So, you're getting it this morning. And that's the only change is that the names are added for the recommended or recommended um um applicants. >> But would it would it be possible in the

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future to get the names for the non-recommended ones, too? >> We we discussed that. >> We can do that. >> I did some Well, we could I need to talk to the county attorney and get his >> Yeah, we talked about that at the workshop, >> but this is what we agreed to. We talked about it at finance yesterday and and

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Carrie, I believe, did talk to >> Brian public information versus >> and I agreed to provide it after once the decision is made if that would help. >> We just can provide it prior to >> us voting.

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>> We can provide it just not prior. >> Madam Chair, Carrie, would you >> I can try. There is a Brian and I had discussions as did Denise with regards to the difficulty is you know at what

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point does it become public information at what point is the process completed and I re I know um Denise had an opinion I reviewed the statute Brian I sent him the statute as well and um again it's

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really a policy decision at that point because my belief and Brian agreed. I don't know that Denise agrees um that the scoring has already be been done and these are the recommendations but the final decision really is with this board. Um so that is why the names were

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provided because this board really wanted to have all the information before um the approval. Um again we can have further discussions about those that are not awarded once the final decision is made here. that is I believe public information

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if that helps. >> The statute specifically says that it's um all of the scoring materials and the application materials are public once a final contract has been negotiated

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even past your final decisions. So >> I would assume that if we approve, we are approving a contract that will be the final contract decision. So when this board approves it, it is final. We're not approving something that might

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change after we sign it. >> No, that's correct. >> So when this board approves it, it's done. >> Yep. Correct. >> There's no ongoing, >> but it's done, but there's a contract that needs to be signed with the applicant also. >> Correct. >> It's our contract. I mean, they're not going to be able to change it or

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negotiate it, >> right? My Madam Chair, my my concern is, you know, I would like to know why the and I think they have a right to know why they didn't get granted internal and external. I mean, that's that's not enough. And if if it if it's a waiver to

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say you can use our name or whatever, um, I want to know >> I want >> and if I'm deciding, I I want to know who's who it's going to. I mean, I it's not that I don't believe that you guys do an awesome job and or do a good job of scoring and criteria. I just want to

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know >> is the scoring is the scoring on the nonrecommended ones is that did you are they listed at the scoring height? Is there there points that you've awarded to I mean so as the top one the first

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one are they closest to being approved or they is it just random? Well, you see the 69 out of 80 >> and they they didn't provide it's incomplete. No letter of commitment as is required. >> I mean there there's a reason for each

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>> there. Yeah. Each reasoning is listed in the note section. >> So it is it is scored in order. Yeah. Each applicant has a final score which is reflected here and it is >> um ordered by just happens to be ordered

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by score as you can see. Well, you can't see because not all of the numbers here, but >> well, in my opinion, if if you want to I mean, if we're not going to just take the recommendations, we have to get more involved because the the information that we have does not

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cannot we cannot make >> we can't make a decision with >> this much information. We just would have to accept the recommendation. So I mean I'm at today's >> which is the purpose of the opioid advisor >> today's I'm just I'm just willing if we want to get involved in that I think you should assign commissioners to that

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committee to have input on >> I am on that committee >> I'm just not on the >> review team that's what I'm saying put on the review committee to have that so if we feel that's I'm I'm supporting moving forward with these recommendations today. >> Um I >> I am too because I don't have enough

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information to say anything different. So, I'm just saying if it's it's a big I mean it's a big ask >> to to dive into this and and I don't think the information that we need to make those decisions is not public information. I think that's clear. >> Absolutely.

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>> So, if we want to get more involved, you're going to have to get on that committee and I it's my opinion to to add commissioners that want that have a >> a feel that they want to be vested in that decision-m >> and I don't have I don't have a problem with that. if someone wants to um if we

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can amend that committee structure to add to one or two commissioners. >> Mhm. I believe I suggested that at the work session that that was an option. So >> I mean I I think >> and I I I'm not I'm not real interested in diving deep into I I I'm as much as I

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would like to be the end call on everything, I would I would defer. I would be willing to do that >> if >> I'm not interested in sitting on the committee. >> I would do that. >> So, >> are we do we want two or do we want >> I think we should have two

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>> because it's a big deal. >> Well, let's review this and Carrie, why don't you bring this back to our next meeting to say if we should and and >> talk with more talk about >> we'll determine who wants it. Have >> and we'll move it put it on the agenda to the next meeting. Create the

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appointments. Oh, well I mean I'm already on there. >> Well, you're on the human services, but >> you're talking specifically about Yeah. >> The >> scoring the review is that >> Are we on Are we still on the topic number one? >> Yeah. Well, we haven't gotten

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>> We haven't even talked about it all. I handed this out and then >> we just Let's start at the top number two. >> Yeah, we started on number two. Let's go back to number one and then we can >> Well, let's finish this. We're already into it. Let's not do it. finish this and then go back to one.

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>> Well, we have to approve them then. >> You would want to do >> Madam Chair, I I will move to approve the opioid settlement fund recommendations. >> Round three. >> Uh round three. >> Second for a total of 27660. Is that accept

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28,000? >> Oh, requested >> recommended caller of 228. >> Mhm. >> Okay. Any further discussion? >> All those in favor say I. I >> opposed. Motion carried

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and then >> this put under appointments at the next board meeting. >> I don't so I don't know that we need >> if appointment for the review committee like because I'm already on the advisory council. I have

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no problem. >> Mr. Chair, um Erica and Phil are currently on the opioid advisory council. >> I don't think Phil is. I think Bill has been came. Yeah. Kind of. >> Madam Chair, why don't you why don't you work with Carrie and determine how you want to move forward or put on

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appointments? I mean, if if need be. >> If we want and if we want a second one there, we'll have to look at our committees. I don't think we I think we have any bylaws or policy on your committee? >> Yes, I've provided that multiple times. Yes. >> I think I think we want to make sure that >> that that's included that

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>> it is not currently. So, we amend those. Mhm. >> That's why we need to amend that voting right for that. >> And I don't have to be I just if some nobody else want like if you if Phil you want to that's fine. What we'll need is an amendment to the policy

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>> for voting right num members on that review committee >> and then that they would extend to the human service committee commissioners >> or well >> well >> no >> those Richard's on human services >> we

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>> he would defer that to someone else. >> Yeah. >> Madam chair I I I do not see an opioid uh settlement committee. Can I see it? >> Listen, the committee when I was on human services with Erica, the we were the opioid

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>> human services board. >> Yeah. But we didn't we weren't on the review committee, but we were on the >> advisory council. >> Advisory council. Yes. >> Regardless, we need to change the pol the >> Yeah. >> bylaws. >> That's why you don't see it on there because it's part of it's part of human

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services. Uh, Madam Chair, just for clarification and Denise can pipe in here. Um, when we talk about the scoring committee, I think maybe some clarification. The scoring committee makes a recommendation to the advisory committee. Correct.

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>> No, we come here first for the final before we information to the advisory council. >> So, unless one were on the scoring committee, you wouldn't have all the detailed information. Is that correct? Okay. Thank you.

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>> Are we just bringing it back for >> I don't know. >> Yeah, we'll bring it back for review of the of the bylaws and then necessary appointments if needed. >> Okay. >> Mhm. >> Y >> uh just one more question. Um so is there is there a number that they have

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to attain to get the I mean or is it arbit I mean do you lower or raise that qualifying number? >> It's a dollar amount isn't it? >> Well right now the score of 70 and 80 got it. the score of 69 to 80 did not. So I'm just wondering is that the

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>> the score is definitely a large factor of the deci of the decision but also so is the numbers served. I'm just asking is there a is there a line if you get 70 you get funding partial or some or 69 you do not or is it is it is that

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floating uh I have it sorted by score so the top scorers will get um consideration first of course and so that's how we um arrived to the not recommended for the

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lower scores >> so the 69 out of 80 didn't get it because we didn't have enough funding >> they did not have a letter of commitment as required Yeah, there were there were a number of >> So they didn't have >> No, no, I'm just saying but if the we we distributed 228,000 if we' had 2 450,000

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would they have got 15 >> or 17? >> Not if they wouldn't we wouldn't have done a partial. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Because they asked for 243,000. We wouldn't have said >> you can have 15,000. We do encourage

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them to apply it during the next RFP. session and if they should happen to call and ask us in their application questions about their application, we do share information assist them. Absolutely. >> So, so here's my question. So, because

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they had a no letter of commitment, >> no matter what their score would have been, they wouldn't have got >> they would not have correct. >> Gotcha. >> They were that that's my question. >> In effect, a knockout. Yes. >> Okay. >> So, my question still is there's no set number that they have to attain. It's

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it's you that's referenced but it's not rock solid that this number will get something this number will >> correct. >> Okay. Okay. >> Gotcha. Thanks D. >> Okay. Let's go back to the case works. >> Number one um we need an addendum to our

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case works software license agreement um for our case status tracker pilot summary. And the reason for that is that the state has a pilot that they're offering and we jumped on the opportunity because it does provide clients with direct access to their case

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status information. Um this tool um helps clients and helps us to um for some towards some efficiency to reduce the number of calls that are coming in to our income maintenance staff and so they have more time to work on the

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actual cases. And so um we are in entering into a pilot at this point but at some point um it says here July 20th potentially um there's a version and we'll be required to take part in that. So at this point it's a it's voluntary

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pilot but we do need this addendum in order to >> Madam Chair I will move to approve the NCT addendum to casework software licensing agreement for case status tracker pilot. I'll second. Second. >> All right. Any further discussion, >> Madam Chair? Um, is there a fee?

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>> There is no fee. >> No. >> Um, do we anticipate a fee once it's become required? >> Not that I've heard. No. >> At this point, the state's covering the fee, right? >> Correct. >> All right. Any other questions? If not, all those in favor say I. >> I.

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>> Opposed? Motion carries. >> Okay. The last item is a agreement with United Behavioral Health. Um and this is to enter into um a uh reimbursement situation um for SUD services um for

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case coordination and case management. So, this is for us to be reimbursed for services that we're providing such as um comprehensive, is that what they're called now? Assessments. >> Well, case coordination and case management. Yep.

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>> Madam Chair, Denise, why weren't we reimbursed before? >> Um because we didn't potentially didn't provide these exact services. And then um there there are some we're doing some fine-tuning to make

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sure that we're receiving all the revenues that we absolutely can and we just kind of found that this was missed. Yeah, >> I think I recall when we um approved that was one of this was one of the goals when we approved the second

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supervisor because it it was a very >> it's a it was a very intensive process. >> Absolutely. Yep. And we needed more manpower to get there. Yep. >> Okay. Any other questions? Do I have a

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motion? I'll make the motion to approve the United Behavior Health contract. >> All right. Do I have a second? >> I'll second. >> All right. Any further discussion? >> All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Opposed? Motion carried. >> Madam Chair, could we take a break?

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>> Yeah, we will take a 10-minute break, 7 minute break. >> Five is fine then. >> Let's come back at 10:15. Okay. Thank you, Denise. Thank you. Thanks, Denise. Thanks, Denise. I think the only one I had was >> Sarn in

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Taylor. >> Phil had several. Whoa. >> I I was I was asking to go. Do you guys want to dim in here? Because >> somebody must have turned it down. You didn't even notice. >> We were We were here till 9:00 last night. >> Okay. So, it kept going. I was going to say I think there's more

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adjustments. >> Okay, >> that's terrible. >> Okay. Are we ready to get started? >> Mr. Bristlin, >> you're up. >> I was hoping you're going on schedule here. I just jumped into the seat. So, >> yep. >> Well, good morning.

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Um, what I have today is a resolution 06-26-2B to combine uh two vacant part-time custodial positions to one full-time position. Um, I think you guys got the numbers in there. I'm good this year for budget

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wise. >> I'm sure. Yeah, just what I was going to say, Brent. Uh, >> he's been without without some help for quite a while. So, the budget will balance this year because of the of the shortfall in staff. Um, annually though, you can see it's going to be an increase

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of the the cost of the benefits. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. >> Um, the other thing is we offered suggestions that possibly in the future we look at contracting certain buildings out maybe that are extensions of the campus >> for for cleaning. Yeah.

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>> So, I don't know if you had a chance to review any of those or >> I haven't. Um it's it's the services are it's going to be uh quite a bit as far as cost goes. But like I said, I I think by going this full-time,

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our applicant uh pool will be increased. Uh it's just so hard right now to hire part-time um knowing what people are looking for. But >> and then again going forward, I I mean we had mentioned in some of the committees that you know kind of where I'm at. And I know Phil had asked, you know, how many people are on staff and

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that and quite honestly, we're a lot less than when I first started here. And we're doing the best we can. And I think with a full-time employee, we'll really help. They they seem to have more buy in, >> if I can say it that way. Um, but then again, going forward, you know, we've added a few buildings that we weren't

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really cleaning in the past, which is the new highway building. Um, you imagine the the square footage there. um we've been able to cover like the jail parts of that, but this building and all of this here is a lot of square footage and uh depending on how busy the courts

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get and that it can cause a little bit more extensive cleaning. So again, I've been without one of the part-time since November. >> Um and then I just had a recent retirement that combined the other ones. So, >> and and we also talked about like for example at the highway you're sometimes

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you're only going you're only able to go there once a week to clean >> once a week >> which is not good you know and should be at least three probably >> correct >> um I I think >> I I'm not

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I'm not I'm not sure on that three times two for sure I mean well your bathrooms you get cleaned once a week I mean >> well we're we're running into the, you know, the workers coming in from the shop and stuff like that. So, some of the floors there,

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>> uh, are needing more care than they did earlier. >> Um, so we're trying to get ahead of that. And believe me, that tar and everything else that gets accumulated on the >> on their boots. Uh, that's tough to clean. It takes a little bit more extensive in time. So, we're trying to stay ahead of best we can working with

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Jonah and them out there. So, our >> our our employees should be doing everything they can to make your job easier. And if they're not and it's egregious, I want to know. >> Um >> Well, I don't think they're doing that on purpose. They're just, you know, they're working. >> No, that's a work. I get that. But I

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mean, >> I think Phil's referring to we don't need a cleaner out there three times a week either, you know. >> Yeah, maybe three is a little excessive, but one is not enough. >> I I don't know. >> And that's not the plan going ahead. I'll just be >> No, that's just an example. I guess

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you'd have I mean I'm not real familiar out with the requirements but I think it's something to look into and see what I don't know is one enough I'm >> I mean do we have do we have a public facing I mean other than the entryway there or is it just

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>> bathrooms meeting room >> in the highway you're referring to yeah there's the locker rooms which are bathrooms too >> um there's there's kind of a >> a unisex bathroom too in the hallways Again, there's hallways that are that are the hard surface and then there's

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carpeting >> and they kind of transition. If you've been out there, you'll see that's that's kind of tough to kind of keep that maintained there. >> Why did we put carpet out there? >> I you know it was a sound thing or I'm sure it was just I mean it looks nice, feels nice on the feet for the for the workers, but

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>> Oh, there was office space in there. You know, there's office rooms and cubicle area. That's where the >> I mean, we do window cleaning. I mean, I I didn't mention that to Phil earlier, but I mean, we there's, you know, I mean, there's >> you have a you have enough work. >> There's there's a lot there. Um,

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>> Madam Chair, having frequented all these buildings like we do, the courthouse, the sheriff's, not the not the not the jail, but the sheriff's office over here, the jail workers areas, uh, the up there, HHW building. um uh you know I

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take it for granted and I've really never noticed oh boy that they need to take care of that what's going on. So I mean compliments to you and your staff for doing a really nice job. So, um >> it's yeah it's and with these PE vacancies it's you know try to get them

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keep them motivated still knowing that and again listening what you guys come up with and trying to get another full-time they'll they'll be pleased if we if we go through with this um >> that we're still you know helping them out too. So >> do we have part-time now? >> We do. >> I mean do we have part time that would

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be interest time that >> I don't believe so. Okay. >> No, I don't believe any of them are going to apply for a full-time position. Okay, >> Madam Chair, and uh Carrie, maybe you can help with this. So, going forward, you said we're good for this year in the budget, but going forward, the 2026

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increased cost was 7700. Going forward, >> the 26 will be captured within his budget. >> Correct. >> Yeah. >> What is the difference of what next year would be? >> About 19,00,000. >> Where is that on here? >> That's on the far right column

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>> for benefits. So it's basically the health health >> the health coverage. Correct. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> This year right now as I sit I'm at a 36,000 shortfall under budget. So that

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7700 obviously would well under that. So that would be covered but it's just the next year I would budget in if we go forward with this um that extra 19,000. >> Madam chair motion approved 2B. >> I'll second. >> All right. I have a motion and a second. Any further discussion?

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All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Oppose. Motion carry. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Brent. >> Thanks, Brent. >> Yeah. >> All right, Sheriff Glender. >> Come on down. >> Okay, >> you're the next contestant on the crisis, right?

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>> Hey, lame duck. >> Yeah. >> Good morning. >> Morning, >> madam chair, members of the board. I have one item and that is uh a service agreement for um replacement of batteries uh out at our jail uh batteries for a

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UPS which is it un here I go again >> uninterrupted power supply >> that's exactly what it is uh and again it's to maintain continuity of operations within the jail if the power would go down uh the agreement that we're looking at

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is a cost of 9,91453 which is within the budget. >> Madam chair, we we talked about step finance yesterday and and Judy was there and so th this these this bad they're

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used daily. They are used regularly but this would be we have a generator out there. So, this would get us from power out to the generator, which could be anywhere from 2 to 20 seconds, but this battery system needs to be in place. I'm

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sure there's criteria for >> right >> jails and stuff, so we need to do it. And I'll I'll move to approve this battery replacement proposal for the jail. >> I'll second. >> All right, we have a motion in a second.

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Um, I think one other thing just to point out is we are overdue in like >> Yes, >> we So this we've >> it's time for us to >> these last >> Oh, I'm sorry. >> No, I'm just saying we're we're doing it timely. >> I think it's 10 years they last. Is it

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what it is? >> No, I think it's seven years for five to >> seven time. Okay. Okay. >> Gotcha. >> Okay. Any further discussion? All those in favor say I. >> I >> opposed. >> Motion carried.

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>> Thank you. >> Thanks, Don. >> All right, Judy. Madam Madame Chair, um Judy, well, I uh received an email from Judy requesting to amend the agenda to remove these items. I did not see the email until after we got through that.

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So, she does not have the information that she was hoping for to present this. So, >> for the Microsoft Server, I have the others. >> Oh, you did get that. Okay. >> Okay. So, >> so we're not going to take any action on the Microsoft server licenses, but we will on the >> cameras >> camera. Yes.

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>> But we did add to the agenda that you have to do a tutoring class for commissioners to get us to >> that's why I brought my laptop. I am ready for that. >> We will we will do that. >> So, >> good morning. Uh >> I'm serious. Yeah, >> I'm okay with that. Good morning, Chair. >> It takes about 15 minutes per person,

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though. So, I'll start. >> We'll we'll we'll we'll figure out how we want to do that. And like Erica might be able to to say, you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna use somebody else to do this. And I'm fine with that. >> She's got connection. >> I have connection. >> And so we can we can figure it out. Uh

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so good morning, uh chairwoman and commissioners. Uh today I'm bringing forward uh two options for us to replace our camera servers. That's actually upgrading our camera servers. They we've had them for we've had the current system for six

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years and it is no longer supportable in October. So we want to get this in place and ready to go. The two options are uh one is to replace the server and replace 41 cameras and those are the 41 cameras that are called interlogix and they are

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um cameras that are uh they are strongly recommended not to be used by any kind of government um entities >> made in China. Yes, they were made in China and uh we have 41 of them and they're the model number doesn't matter

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but uh and then the other one is that was a little less on the budget and we would do 20 this year and 21 next year. Um the so that's option two. The one is 49,000. The other one is $37,000. I only

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budgeted because of the information I had at the time $40,000. I've already by us uh changing the way we're doing going to do our our mobile data management solution, we are going to recoup about $5,000 from that. So,

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we're now at about $45,000 uh compared to 37,000. So, we've got about we still I still have to kind of figure out how to make up that other $4,000, but I think I I think I've got a way to do it. Um, and I didn't bring that piece of paper with me to explain

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it in excruciating detail, but I could. >> But you did you did say yesterday that if we weren't to do all 41, this cost will go up next year. >> I believe this cost will go up um like it did la from last year to this year. Yes, >> that's what we talked about at Coros, too. >> So,

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>> so I think it does make sense for us to >> to replace all 41 cameras. >> Okay. >> Now, that's my thoughts. >> I I my opinion, too. So, >> yes. And if you're going to I mean to to have Arvid come out and do two batches is going to be not cost effectively I mean rather than one.

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>> That's right. >> Yeah. In in addition to the additional cost that the cameras will go up. So >> um I think we just in the motion then just identify how if you want to bring that out of >> reserves any balance or

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>> I think we do that >> any overage. >> Okay. any overage will just take out of reserves. >> We'll come out of reserves and and note note that so when we see that flagged item in our budget that we'll know that that this is what we approved it and and

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why. So, >> okay. Do we have a motion? >> Madam Chair, I'll move to approve the camera server replacement option number one, replacing 41 cameras with a cost of 49,000.

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>> All right. All right. Do I have a second? >> I'll second with the now with the if if the chair or the motion maker would just add that the overage will come out of reserves from that's not budgeted. >> All right. Any further discussion? >> All those in favor say I.

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>> I. >> Opposed. >> Motion carried. >> Madam Chair, just a trivia question which we should know. How many cameras do we have on all of our buildings? >> A guy emailed me that yesterday. kind of just >> so we got sheriff, jail, courthouse, the

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courtrooms, human services, and highway. How many total cameras do we have indoor and outdoor? >> Richard, let me hit Judy. >> 77. >> You should know on a safety committee. >> We have 111

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indoor and outdoor cameras servicing our county buildings. >> You could have said they're all the same number. That make sense. >> Okay. meeting is a journal. Thank you everybody. >> This al that also goes through the the hallway, the walk hallway through the courts from

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>> there's there's numerous just in that. I just I I thought that was